May 12, 2022 • 19 mins
Dear celebrities we've crushed on in the past, please forget the letter you may have received from us in the past. Anney and Samantha sip some drinks and reminisce over celebrity crushes, embarrassing fan letters and fangirling.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
I never told you a production of I Heart Radio.
And welcome to another happy hour. Um. As always, if
you choose to drink, please do so responsibly. Uh, and
(00:26):
you know we've been talking a lot. There's a lot
of heavy stuff going on lately in the United States,
in the world, and look at some potential vacation and
moving happening. Berries. Moving is so stressful, so we thought
(00:49):
we would do a lighter one today. That's sort of
a companion piece to our Turning Red episode. But what
are you slipping on, Samantha? I think I had this
last time, but it's see bells over on. I got
the can addition because typically they come in glass bottles.
But yeah, I'm just chaking up beer. It's a very
summary beer, probably one of my face not quite a
(01:11):
wheat beer, but almost a wheat beer, so it makes
me happy, but still very beer eat. Yes, and by
the way, we're not sponsored. Hey, but someone melts you
want to sponsor me? I love reach out. I'm drinking
essentially a margarita, but I used my special color changing stuff,
so it's purple, purplely blue. Because today is Revenge of
(01:35):
the Fifth as we record this, and I'm drinking out
of my Vader glass excited. That's exciting. She's so decked
out in Star Wars No Surprise. Yeah. Yeah. My friend
texted me because we're supposed to go see a New
Hope theaters and she's like, are you dressing up? And
I said, I'll probably wear some light costuming and she
was like, I met like a dress and I was like,
(01:56):
who do you think you're talking to? Come out of
the same thing. You guys are going to a very
themed thing at a theater that is no for people
dressing up, So he has in costuming, so that made
perfect is to me. It was very very funny because
I could tell she was confused. But that's actually a
good uh segue into the conversation I want to have,
(02:17):
which is just kind of a light heart to talk
about some crushes we had, some fan stuff we might
have done that now feels very embarrassing because after Turning
Red came out, I did have all of these memories
come back to me. I am clearly someone who does
fan a lot, like I get really into something which
(02:41):
I have been changed for in the past. But we're
not really going to talk about that today. I I
didn't mention in that episode, which if you haven't listened
to it, go check it out. Then. I have written
several fan letters in my day, and all of them
I I don't know if regrets the right word, but
I hope they're destroyed. I hope they don't exist anywhere.
(03:07):
So one of them I wrote when I was nine
years old. I had a huge crush on Ryan Gosling,
who was in the show called Young Hercules that I
still own. I recorded them on VHS every day after school,
and so I'm like, I bet I could convert the
use and maybe make some money or either I'd get sued,
probably that one. But I had a huge crush on him,
(03:31):
like embarrassingly huge. I had a little Reese's lunchbox that
had pictures that I would cut out from paper like
magazines and stuff. I had a little like talkback thing
from a time in the show where he said I
love you, and I would just play it. Yeah, it's bad,
it's embarrassing. And I wrote him a letter and I
(03:55):
dotted all the eyes with hearts. That's amazing. Even better,
I feel like that's just iconic, an iconic move. Oh.
I dotted all the eyes with hearts. It was a
two page letter. I really don't remember anything it said
except at the end I said, p S. Will you
be my Valentine? Oh? I hope it's been destroyed. I
(04:20):
don't know why I feel like I hope it exists.
I don't remember doing fan letters, um, to be fair like,
I think that's a lot of that was a blur
for me. I may have because my brother did. And
one of the fan letters was for Tiffany, an eighties musician,
and he actually received something back, uh, and I was like, oh, interesting.
(04:42):
But I did have the New Kids in the Block lunchbox.
I definitely had that and carried that around once to
say it was Joey that I loved. I can't remember
it was Joey or Jordan's. I think it was Joey
because I knew he was closer to my age at
that point in time. But yeah, I definitely was say
beyond that, I don't think so. Of course, I still
(05:03):
had the fantasies as a teenager. That yes, one of
the instinct boys again, Lance Mass, which is so many levels.
Obviously that Lance Bass was definitely going to find me
meet me, and we were going to have that moment
such as Turning Red where he realizes I'm not I'm
not like the other girls. Yes, again, this is a
really badganistic tropes in my head and therefore more special
(05:25):
for him to choose, which again, he could care less
if I'm not like other girls because he doesn't care
about girls. Right, like that, like that, right, And that
is one point I wanted to make an the Turning
Red one, and we didn't. I do believe like that
kind of fan girling and falling, feeling like you're in
love with somebody. I actually cried the day I realized
(05:47):
Ryan Goslick and I were never gonna get married. Yeah,
it is a safe space to explore sexuality generally, but
as we talked about in the Emo pop one, not
always right. That is a good note. Okay, So I
got older. My next big crush was Daniel Radcliffe. I
had it. It was bad, very huge crush on him.
(06:08):
It was It was like started because, as I said,
I generally go for fictional characters, so it started as
Harry Potter, but then because he was Harry Potter's age,
it kind of became like very intertwined for me, I
wrote him a fan letter. This one I find even
more embarrassing because at least with the Ryan Gossling one,
I was nine. This when I was fourteen, and I
(06:30):
wrote a letter in which I tried to break down.
I think I was trying to seem deep, but I
was talking about the meaning of life and like for
like at the end, this seems to be a theme
with me. I put some note of like, you know,
in America there's this thing called prom. I don't know
(06:51):
if you've never wanted to go, but like, you know,
I'd be available. That's so amazing. But you know what,
kids are not doing that today? And they did typically
put it on social media and sometimes it works. Is
it sexual? No? Is it all about oh this is
fun or publicity or whatever a kind hearted gesture? Yes,
but hey you're shot and I missed, which is again
(07:18):
for the best. I think I never read it. Who
is Daniel Radcliffe with now? Like she's not a big celebrity, right,
she's someone educational. I feel like it's uh, I have
to go back and look. But it's not like your
typical young stars, Like he was never rented to that,
so who knows? Maybe had he just read it instead
(07:41):
of bypassing it like probably his publicity is probably his
publicist was just like, we're gonna just stamp these, you know,
had he maybe read yours, it could have been a
different story, some like Branching Universe, where I actually did
maybe with Daniel Radcliffe. Oh my gosh. Again, I can't
(08:04):
remember the contents of the letter other than the general
vibe was very like, oh so emo oh, And I
think at the time, I'm embarrassed to admit this, but
I'll admit it. I did watch like interviews with him,
so I was trying to be like he said something
like he liked emo girls, so I was like, ah,
(08:26):
it's a perfect match. I mean, that was the idea
behind publicist in there, like to get to the point
that it feels like they are talking to you individually
and pointing you out, and those connections can only be
felt by you. It's a genius marketing rap, like it's
(08:49):
the kind of that whole thing of like, for the
longest time, the celebrities could not show that they were
in relationships, especially if you're a teenage heartthrob type of conversation,
and yes, heartthrob, I am all don't start with me.
But they they had to be present single because they
need to be ever available to the fans. Um And
(09:10):
it's like, yeah, it's definitely a conversation. And again not
that Lance Bass would have come out anytime earlier, but
one of the things about being a boy band was, no,
you can't be gay, you have to be straight. These
girls I have to believe they have a chance with you,
like in that level and that conversation and like what
that looks like and how that goes and this again,
(09:31):
for those you have to also have this like level
of purity as well, which is that whole different trope
in itself. But yeah, because they were smart, they played
at the game. They made sure that they felt this
energy and connection and be real and you know, we
have to have this conversation, not necessarily because people are
crushing on us in general, but the fact that we
(09:53):
are very honest and try to we understand people can
pick up on fake pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah, and I'd
forgotten about that whole conversation. I'm glad you brought that up,
because that was the conversation with Taylor Swift even for
a while where they were like she's hiding she's dating
someone because she needs to be single. A lot of
(10:13):
boy bands do you have that. I don't like to
see the fandom where you turn on the love the
person who is with whoever you're crushing on because you're
(10:37):
then you're mad because you can't be with them at
least for no legitimate reason. That, and that's especially in
the age of social media, is why they attack people's partners.
I'm not a fan of Justin Bieber, but when he
got together with his new now wife, it was a
whole dramatic things. She was getting harassed, it was over
(11:01):
the top, and without even knowing who she was. Like,
of course, there might be other reasons not to like her.
I don't know. I don't know anything about her other
than she's a beautiful woman who came into her own
got together with Justin Bieber. Now like finally got to
the point of just like them being a couple and
being fine, But like, she still gets messages about how
they hate her. In comparison to Selena Gomez. Yeah, that
(11:26):
whole celebrity dating scene with fans just sounds like a nightmare.
It's so weird. Things like this whole ownership of a
couple of them on top of the individual too. It's
such an odd level of loving someone or really feeling
like they're in tune with someone. And to a certain extent, sure,
(11:47):
you do you as long as you're not harming anybody.
But if you're throwing out threats and calling people names
because you're mad, it's like, oh, you might want to
take that back. Yeah, And I thought about this a
lot because of fan fiction. But as I said, when
I first started reading fan fiction, everyone hated pretty much.
(12:10):
Everyone hated all the women are girls. They hated them
because essentially it was oh, Jenny Weasley, who is a
very popular one that everyone hated. She stepped in and
like ruined this formula. She's not good enough or whatever.
But it was hate. Like you can criticize the character,
but there's a difference between that and just like outright
hating them because you think they've gotten a way of
(12:33):
your relationship. And luckily I've seen that again, I'm in
a specific corner of fan fiction, so I don't know,
but in my experience has changed and now people are
really embracing um these characters, which I'm very very happy
to see. But ultimately, like when you're seeing it play
out with these real life celebrities. Um, these are real
(12:54):
people and you're attacking them. You don't know them. And
also it's still it kind of comes down to like
pitting women against women, right, And it's really concerning when
they start blowing the lines from the actor or the
person who's portraying a character to the character in the
level which kudos to them, they're an amazing actor if
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they can really fool you into thinking that's the that's
their persona also really bad at the same time, Like,
I still feel bad for the dude who played Geoffrey
and Game with Throws and he's pretty much since it
was like I quit, I don't think I can do
anything because he played the worst character so well, Like
he did so well in that character, and it turns
out from what I've heard, of course I don't know him,
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just that he's just a genuinely good kid and good
guy and people who knew and loved him, but this
character is so horrendous that he's like, no one's gonna
like I'm tired of acting. I don't know this. This
acting process was you know, painful, whatever, and it's not
for me whatever whatnot. But like also probably knowing that
this is going to be the typecast and he may
(13:58):
forever be the villain. Some people are like, okay with
Gary Oldman, one of the classic bad guys, I'm like
every time I see and I'm like, you're the worst
person ever Sands, you know, Harry Potter, but you know,
he really does play that character so well and he
loved and he loves that character for the longest time
(14:18):
that it is kind of like who it's really hard
to differentiate you because you're so good at it. But
realizing like we can't abuse people it's because we don't
like the character they played, or like genuinely begin to
hate it, not the character, but hated the character in itself,
or because there was someone and it's not you, right right.
(14:39):
I mean, that's a whole conversation about that's so much
like fan entitled ement, fan entitlement and ownership. That is
really really problematic. I will say, in my case, Danny
Racliffe did SNAr response. It was obviously not him, but
you know I did get yeah, I did get respect
(15:00):
an autograph picture and I later I saw him at
a place in New York and I got his autograph
in person and I froze, Like you want to say,
did you ask him on a date? It's like I
turned into a mannequin and I was just holding it
and he walked by and signed it and that was
the end of the air. I love that moment. That
(15:23):
would be moments like that. I'm like, I don't I
don't know what to do. I was like, this is
the world. Why did I try this? This is terrible?
Get out, get out, get out. I do that with
people that other people don't know. But I have admired
from afar that I'm like, and they genuinely don't typically
get that reaction, but because I know of them, are like,
I can't talk to him. It's just it's just but heard.
(15:49):
That was part Cannon. I remember. I was so flustered.
It was so bad. I still loved her and she
called me soon after. I called me friend. I was like, oh,
likely you might have a daught forever. Mean that one time.
But yeah, people who I admire and do amazing things,
I freeze and I just babble. Is hard for it's
(16:10):
hardcore for me. Me Yeah, me too, me too. I
don't think I've ever I actually don't super as much
as it doesn't sound like it right now. I don't
super get into celebrity culture often. That's why when I
do get into it, I get into it. Why I
think the person I would be most nervous about, because
we've talked about old a couple of people I would
(16:31):
be most nervous about, because I think we had a
dream list. Eves when she was producer back with was like,
send me a dreamless of people, and I was like,
those would be the people I would like, just buckle under.
I think Michelle Obama was like the big one. I
was like, I would die, I would die, um, and
then below that would pat the locks for me and
other please for a lot of Jesus, let me meet her. Hey,
(16:54):
there's still time. There's still time. But yeah, I was
just thinking about this. I because ever since we did
that Turning Red one and then my friends and I
because I've been very open about writing fan letters and
kind of the embarrassing while looking back now feels embarrassing
to me fans stuff that I've done. But I've had
some friends come out of the woodwork and I really
(17:17):
enjoyed the conversation and hearing like, oh, you wrote a
letter to that person. I did not ever write a
letter to Billy Joe Armstrong our Green Day that was
my big band. I did join their fan club. I
paid money to join their fan club, but I never
had enough the money to do that. But yeah, I
(17:38):
thought about it. Yeah it was nice. I mean they
put up like clips and new songs and stuff. I
think it's twenty bucks. But I definitely went to So.
They have a tradition at their concerts where when they
play long View I think it's the name of the song.
Oh gosh, if I got it wrong, I'm terrible fan.
They bring on person from the audience to play with him,
(18:02):
and then the person gets to keep the guitar. And
I tried. I went to like five concerts trying to
get up. There be the one. I learned to play
guitar because of that. Yeah, yeah, so that's some serious
fan activity. You would have been Would you have been
one of those girls who just sits and cries or
passed out. I don't think I would have cried. I
(18:24):
think I would have been shaking so badly, which I
actually so happened to somebody who got pulled up on stage.
It was a young kid, actually he was shaking so
badly couldn't play, and they were very kind with him.
They started playing for to cover up what he was doing.
I don't think I would have passed out, but there
have been something like I think from the back row,
from the nose bleeds you could have seen me shaking. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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that It sounds like fun, and then you would think
about the real like implications of it, and they're like, no,
I don't, I don't want that. I don't, I don't
want that, and the people have been recording it, and
then it's on YouTube and that's who you are. All right, Well,
thanks for reminiscing with me, and hopefully this gave a
bit of a much needed bright spot in all this
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kind of grim territory we're in right now. Cheers, cheers, cheers.
Oh my goodness, listeners, if you're open to sharing some
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Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff
I never told you a production of I Heart Radio.
And welcome to another happy hour. Um. As always, if
you choose to drink, please do so responsibly. Uh, and
(00:26):
you know we've been talking a lot. There's a lot
of heavy stuff going on lately in the United States,
in the world, and look at some potential vacation and
moving happening. Berries. Moving is so stressful, so we thought
(00:49):
we would do a lighter one today. That's sort of
a companion piece to our Turning Red episode. But what
are you slipping on, Samantha? I think I had this
last time, but it's see bells over on. I got
the can addition because typically they come in glass bottles.
But yeah, I'm just chaking up beer. It's a very
summary beer, probably one of my face not quite a
(01:11):
wheat beer, but almost a wheat beer, so it makes
me happy, but still very beer eat. Yes, and by
the way, we're not sponsored. Hey, but someone melts you
want to sponsor me? I love reach out. I'm drinking
essentially a margarita, but I used my special color changing stuff,
so it's purple, purplely blue. Because today is Revenge of
(01:35):
the Fifth as we record this, and I'm drinking out
of my Vader glass excited. That's exciting. She's so decked
out in Star Wars No Surprise. Yeah. Yeah. My friend
texted me because we're supposed to go see a New
Hope theaters and she's like, are you dressing up? And
I said, I'll probably wear some light costuming and she
was like, I met like a dress and I was like,
(01:56):
who do you think you're talking to? Come out of
the same thing. You guys are going to a very
themed thing at a theater that is no for people
dressing up, So he has in costuming, so that made
perfect is to me. It was very very funny because
I could tell she was confused. But that's actually a
good uh segue into the conversation I want to have,
(02:17):
which is just kind of a light heart to talk
about some crushes we had, some fan stuff we might
have done that now feels very embarrassing because after Turning
Red came out, I did have all of these memories
come back to me. I am clearly someone who does
fan a lot, like I get really into something which
(02:41):
I have been changed for in the past. But we're
not really going to talk about that today. I I
didn't mention in that episode, which if you haven't listened
to it, go check it out. Then. I have written
several fan letters in my day, and all of them
I I don't know if regrets the right word, but
I hope they're destroyed. I hope they don't exist anywhere.
(03:07):
So one of them I wrote when I was nine
years old. I had a huge crush on Ryan Gosling,
who was in the show called Young Hercules that I
still own. I recorded them on VHS every day after school,
and so I'm like, I bet I could convert the
use and maybe make some money or either I'd get sued,
probably that one. But I had a huge crush on him,
(03:31):
like embarrassingly huge. I had a little Reese's lunchbox that
had pictures that I would cut out from paper like
magazines and stuff. I had a little like talkback thing
from a time in the show where he said I
love you, and I would just play it. Yeah, it's bad,
it's embarrassing. And I wrote him a letter and I
(03:55):
dotted all the eyes with hearts. That's amazing. Even better,
I feel like that's just iconic, an iconic move. Oh.
I dotted all the eyes with hearts. It was a
two page letter. I really don't remember anything it said
except at the end I said, p S. Will you
be my Valentine? Oh? I hope it's been destroyed. I
(04:20):
don't know why I feel like I hope it exists.
I don't remember doing fan letters, um, to be fair like,
I think that's a lot of that was a blur
for me. I may have because my brother did. And
one of the fan letters was for Tiffany, an eighties musician,
and he actually received something back, uh, and I was like, oh, interesting.
(04:42):
But I did have the New Kids in the Block lunchbox.
I definitely had that and carried that around once to
say it was Joey that I loved. I can't remember
it was Joey or Jordan's. I think it was Joey
because I knew he was closer to my age at
that point in time. But yeah, I definitely was say
beyond that, I don't think so. Of course, I still
(05:03):
had the fantasies as a teenager. That yes, one of
the instinct boys again, Lance Mass, which is so many levels.
Obviously that Lance Bass was definitely going to find me
meet me, and we were going to have that moment
such as Turning Red where he realizes I'm not I'm
not like the other girls. Yes, again, this is a
really badganistic tropes in my head and therefore more special
(05:25):
for him to choose, which again, he could care less
if I'm not like other girls because he doesn't care
about girls. Right, like that, like that, right, And that
is one point I wanted to make an the Turning
Red one, and we didn't. I do believe like that
kind of fan girling and falling, feeling like you're in
love with somebody. I actually cried the day I realized
(05:47):
Ryan Goslick and I were never gonna get married. Yeah,
it is a safe space to explore sexuality generally, but
as we talked about in the Emo pop one, not
always right. That is a good note. Okay, So I
got older. My next big crush was Daniel Radcliffe. I
had it. It was bad, very huge crush on him.
(06:08):
It was It was like started because, as I said,
I generally go for fictional characters, so it started as
Harry Potter, but then because he was Harry Potter's age,
it kind of became like very intertwined for me, I
wrote him a fan letter. This one I find even
more embarrassing because at least with the Ryan Gossling one,
I was nine. This when I was fourteen, and I
(06:30):
wrote a letter in which I tried to break down.
I think I was trying to seem deep, but I
was talking about the meaning of life and like for
like at the end, this seems to be a theme
with me. I put some note of like, you know,
in America there's this thing called prom. I don't know
(06:51):
if you've never wanted to go, but like, you know,
I'd be available. That's so amazing. But you know what,
kids are not doing that today? And they did typically
put it on social media and sometimes it works. Is
it sexual? No? Is it all about oh this is
fun or publicity or whatever a kind hearted gesture? Yes,
but hey you're shot and I missed, which is again
(07:18):
for the best. I think I never read it. Who
is Daniel Radcliffe with now? Like she's not a big celebrity, right,
she's someone educational. I feel like it's uh, I have
to go back and look. But it's not like your
typical young stars, Like he was never rented to that,
so who knows? Maybe had he just read it instead
(07:41):
of bypassing it like probably his publicity is probably his
publicist was just like, we're gonna just stamp these, you know,
had he maybe read yours, it could have been a
different story, some like Branching Universe, where I actually did
maybe with Daniel Radcliffe. Oh my gosh. Again, I can't
(08:04):
remember the contents of the letter other than the general
vibe was very like, oh so emo oh, And I
think at the time, I'm embarrassed to admit this, but
I'll admit it. I did watch like interviews with him,
so I was trying to be like he said something
like he liked emo girls, so I was like, ah,
(08:26):
it's a perfect match. I mean, that was the idea
behind publicist in there, like to get to the point
that it feels like they are talking to you individually
and pointing you out, and those connections can only be
felt by you. It's a genius marketing rap, like it's
(08:49):
the kind of that whole thing of like, for the
longest time, the celebrities could not show that they were
in relationships, especially if you're a teenage heartthrob type of conversation,
and yes, heartthrob, I am all don't start with me.
But they they had to be present single because they
need to be ever available to the fans. Um And
(09:10):
it's like, yeah, it's definitely a conversation. And again not
that Lance Bass would have come out anytime earlier, but
one of the things about being a boy band was, no,
you can't be gay, you have to be straight. These
girls I have to believe they have a chance with you,
like in that level and that conversation and like what
that looks like and how that goes and this again,
(09:31):
for those you have to also have this like level
of purity as well, which is that whole different trope
in itself. But yeah, because they were smart, they played
at the game. They made sure that they felt this
energy and connection and be real and you know, we
have to have this conversation, not necessarily because people are
crushing on us in general, but the fact that we
(09:53):
are very honest and try to we understand people can
pick up on fake pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah, and I'd
forgotten about that whole conversation. I'm glad you brought that up,
because that was the conversation with Taylor Swift even for
a while where they were like she's hiding she's dating
someone because she needs to be single. A lot of
(10:13):
boy bands do you have that. I don't like to
see the fandom where you turn on the love the
person who is with whoever you're crushing on because you're
(10:37):
then you're mad because you can't be with them at
least for no legitimate reason. That, and that's especially in
the age of social media, is why they attack people's partners.
I'm not a fan of Justin Bieber, but when he
got together with his new now wife, it was a
whole dramatic things. She was getting harassed, it was over
(11:01):
the top, and without even knowing who she was. Like,
of course, there might be other reasons not to like her.
I don't know. I don't know anything about her other
than she's a beautiful woman who came into her own
got together with Justin Bieber. Now like finally got to
the point of just like them being a couple and
being fine, But like, she still gets messages about how
they hate her. In comparison to Selena Gomez. Yeah, that
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whole celebrity dating scene with fans just sounds like a nightmare.
It's so weird. Things like this whole ownership of a
couple of them on top of the individual too. It's
such an odd level of loving someone or really feeling
like they're in tune with someone. And to a certain extent, sure,
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you do you as long as you're not harming anybody.
But if you're throwing out threats and calling people names
because you're mad, it's like, oh, you might want to
take that back. Yeah, And I thought about this a
lot because of fan fiction. But as I said, when
I first started reading fan fiction, everyone hated pretty much.
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Everyone hated all the women are girls. They hated them
because essentially it was oh, Jenny Weasley, who is a
very popular one that everyone hated. She stepped in and
like ruined this formula. She's not good enough or whatever.
But it was hate. Like you can criticize the character,
but there's a difference between that and just like outright
hating them because you think they've gotten a way of
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your relationship. And luckily I've seen that again, I'm in
a specific corner of fan fiction, so I don't know,
but in my experience has changed and now people are
really embracing um these characters, which I'm very very happy
to see. But ultimately, like when you're seeing it play
out with these real life celebrities. Um, these are real
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people and you're attacking them. You don't know them. And
also it's still it kind of comes down to like
pitting women against women, right, And it's really concerning when
they start blowing the lines from the actor or the
person who's portraying a character to the character in the
level which kudos to them, they're an amazing actor if
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they can really fool you into thinking that's the that's
their persona also really bad at the same time, Like,
I still feel bad for the dude who played Geoffrey
and Game with Throws and he's pretty much since it
was like I quit, I don't think I can do
anything because he played the worst character so well, Like
he did so well in that character, and it turns
out from what I've heard, of course I don't know him,
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just that he's just a genuinely good kid and good
guy and people who knew and loved him, but this
character is so horrendous that he's like, no one's gonna
like I'm tired of acting. I don't know this. This
acting process was you know, painful, whatever, and it's not
for me whatever whatnot. But like also probably knowing that
this is going to be the typecast and he may
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forever be the villain. Some people are like, okay with
Gary Oldman, one of the classic bad guys, I'm like
every time I see and I'm like, you're the worst
person ever Sands, you know, Harry Potter, but you know,
he really does play that character so well and he
loved and he loves that character for the longest time
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that it is kind of like who it's really hard
to differentiate you because you're so good at it. But
realizing like we can't abuse people it's because we don't
like the character they played, or like genuinely begin to
hate it, not the character, but hated the character in itself,
or because there was someone and it's not you, right right.
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I mean, that's a whole conversation about that's so much
like fan entitled ement, fan entitlement and ownership. That is
really really problematic. I will say, in my case, Danny
Racliffe did SNAr response. It was obviously not him, but
you know I did get yeah, I did get respect
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an autograph picture and I later I saw him at
a place in New York and I got his autograph
in person and I froze, Like you want to say,
did you ask him on a date? It's like I
turned into a mannequin and I was just holding it
and he walked by and signed it and that was
the end of the air. I love that moment. That
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would be moments like that. I'm like, I don't I
don't know what to do. I was like, this is
the world. Why did I try this? This is terrible?
Get out, get out, get out. I do that with
people that other people don't know. But I have admired
from afar that I'm like, and they genuinely don't typically
get that reaction, but because I know of them, are like,
I can't talk to him. It's just it's just but heard.
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That was part Cannon. I remember. I was so flustered.
It was so bad. I still loved her and she
called me soon after. I called me friend. I was like, oh,
likely you might have a daught forever. Mean that one time.
But yeah, people who I admire and do amazing things,
I freeze and I just babble. Is hard for it's
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hardcore for me. Me Yeah, me too, me too. I
don't think I've ever I actually don't super as much
as it doesn't sound like it right now. I don't
super get into celebrity culture often. That's why when I
do get into it, I get into it. Why I
think the person I would be most nervous about, because
we've talked about old a couple of people I would
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be most nervous about, because I think we had a
dream list. Eves when she was producer back with was like,
send me a dreamless of people, and I was like,
those would be the people I would like, just buckle under.
I think Michelle Obama was like the big one. I
was like, I would die, I would die, um, and
then below that would pat the locks for me and
other please for a lot of Jesus, let me meet her. Hey,
(16:54):
there's still time. There's still time. But yeah, I was
just thinking about this. I because ever since we did
that Turning Red one and then my friends and I
because I've been very open about writing fan letters and
kind of the embarrassing while looking back now feels embarrassing
to me fans stuff that I've done. But I've had
some friends come out of the woodwork and I really
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enjoyed the conversation and hearing like, oh, you wrote a
letter to that person. I did not ever write a
letter to Billy Joe Armstrong our Green Day that was
my big band. I did join their fan club. I
paid money to join their fan club, but I never
had enough the money to do that. But yeah, I
(17:38):
thought about it. Yeah it was nice. I mean they
put up like clips and new songs and stuff. I
think it's twenty bucks. But I definitely went to So.
They have a tradition at their concerts where when they
play long View I think it's the name of the song.
Oh gosh, if I got it wrong, I'm terrible fan.
They bring on person from the audience to play with him,
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and then the person gets to keep the guitar. And
I tried. I went to like five concerts trying to
get up. There be the one. I learned to play
guitar because of that. Yeah, yeah, so that's some serious
fan activity. You would have been Would you have been
one of those girls who just sits and cries or
passed out. I don't think I would have cried. I
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think I would have been shaking so badly, which I
actually so happened to somebody who got pulled up on stage.
It was a young kid, actually he was shaking so
badly couldn't play, and they were very kind with him.
They started playing for to cover up what he was doing.
I don't think I would have passed out, but there
have been something like I think from the back row,
from the nose bleeds you could have seen me shaking. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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that It sounds like fun, and then you would think
about the real like implications of it, and they're like, no,
I don't, I don't want that. I don't, I don't
want that, and the people have been recording it, and
then it's on YouTube and that's who you are. All right, Well,
thanks for reminiscing with me, and hopefully this gave a
bit of a much needed bright spot in all this
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kind of grim territory we're in right now. Cheers, cheers, cheers.
Oh my goodness, listeners, if you're open to sharing some
fan letters things you did that would be amazing, you
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