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March 25, 2021 • 19 mins

It's Thursday, which means it's time for a happy hour! For this rendition, we break open some beers from 2nd Shift Brewing and discuss women in brewing and beer.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane
Ever told you production of I Heart Radio. Welcome everyone
to our segments that we are calling the smiinty Happy Hour.
I feel like I need to do the NBR voice
for happy Hours. Yeah, I get you know, I get

(00:27):
that vibe to. One of the very first listener mails
I received when I started podcasting was that I sounded
like Alec Baldwin trying to do an NPR voice with
the sweaty balls, because I guess I say like, yeah
in that way or something. I say that a lot.
I did take it as an insult at all. That's

(00:48):
a great segment. I'd love. That's probably one of my
favorite sketches. Yeah, that makes me feel even better then.
It's so great. But yeah, I do feel like we
need to do an NPR. But because it is our
happy hour moment, Happy Thursday, every one. I hope whatever
is happening this week, I hope it is not bad.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna reach for the stars

(01:09):
on this one with just just not bad. Yeah, that
you're you're managing well, hopefully you're happy it's Thursday and
you have some time to unwind with us and relax
in whatever way that might be and join us in
this happy hour. Yeah, so grab your favorite beverage. I'm
sure you already have because you're a pro by now,
and let's sit together and today for our own beverages.

(01:35):
Because you and I we are actually bringing out the beers.
It's time. It's time. I love the brewing industry. I
got to be a part of it for several years
with Orpheus in Atlanta, and we're gonna go exploring for
this delicious nous. It's St. Louis, Missouri? Is it? My
voice really irritating the NPR voice I'm trying to do
in St. Louis, Missouri with a second shift brewing. I'm

(01:59):
very excited about this, and I want to do a
quick shout out to our connection because he has been
really phenomenal in making sure that we can get the
beers that we're asking for. Jason over at Orpheus, he
is the owner and brew master in Atlanta, and of
course he's one of the ones that I learned about
beers from and I've really gotten a deep education. Specifically,
he is all about music and arts and beer and

(02:22):
how they all culminate together. So shout out to him,
and of course he is an amazing advocate and an
ally in the beer community and beer industry. I want
you to talk a little bit later, but kind of
my experiences in an industry that is very male centric
and very male dominated, not because they're better at it,
but because they've taken it over. Let's just be real.
We know the history of beers came from women way

(02:46):
back when. But yeah, so shout out to Jason, and yeah,
in an industry that does seem sometimes so dark for women,
I feel like in those who identify into l g
PTQ community, having someone like Jason being an advocate has
always been something that I have been very grateful for.
So thanks Jason, Yes, thank you Jason. You actually before
we were like friends, you set up a meeting between

(03:09):
me and him from my other Show's Savory, and we
did every with him about brewing, particularly sour beers, and
it's a lovely video. You can find it on YouTube. Yeah,
he was so excited about that. I think I got
in because I was able to connect you to so
he's like, oh, how stuff works. Yeah. As in fact,
our first meeting was at ORPHEUS brewing and you didn't

(03:31):
You and I didn't know we met each other because
it was during an event that was specific to how
the science of brewing and the science behind brewing, and
it was this event that was happening with the tech
kids I think at that point in time. And there's
a picture of you and I because I am serving
you beer not knowing who you are. And it wasn't
until Caroline, former host of Smundi and now a ladylike,

(03:54):
was like, I know both of you, and we did.
Thanks to Caroline as well, we did. I you know
what that day, Martin Freeman waved at me. That's what
I remember. I was walking to Orpheus. I was wearing
my Captain America shirt and he was just in I
think it was Black Panther at the time, and he
gave me a like nod in wave and and then

(04:14):
I went to Orpheus and it was a wonderful day.
Also obviously disclaimer, as always, at least currently, this is
not a sponsored episode. We ever seen no money. We're
just trying to highlight people women, particularly doing interesting things
in the brewing, like as you said, that is so rare, unfortunately,
right and in the history and we've talked about this before.

(04:36):
We had a whole beer episode when we talked about
the whole I P A versus who drinks beer, who
drinks wine, and what is assumed as masculine versus feminine
and also, yeah, definitely shout out to second Chef Brewing
and Libby cried who we were going to talk about
in just a minute, she did hook us up and
when we sent out the bats signal about trying to

(04:57):
get these beers, she was all on board. So we're
gonna talk about what she is doing for the community.
But Libby, thank you so much and sending these beers
because it's not so accessible since we're not in Missouri ourselves,
but we're very excited about them. Yeah, yeah, and we
will be trying an I P A and a stout today,
which traditionally have been kind of coded as masculine, and
certainly for me, like especially when I was I was

(05:19):
never the person who said I don't like beer, because
beer was such a big thing in my family. But
I would say I don't like I PA s or
I don't like stouts, and it was just sort of
this assumption I had one with probably cheap, bad I
pas and stouts, but also that it was more of
a masculine beer types, both of them. I don't know

(05:41):
if I really felt this or internalized this, but like
it was more in my lane to like lighter beers
or just again wine or seltzers or such, uh huh.
And yeah, and just kind of talking about the industry alone,
We've seen a lot of up and downs and a
lot of scrutiny within different breweries and different industries. I

(06:02):
definitely have a list of breweries that I have boycotted
because some of some of these issues. So when you
find breweries and companies that actually elevate women and elevate
the l g B, d Q plus community, elevate those
marginalized such as the black community, is lovely to see
and you want to talk more to them and help

(06:22):
push their brands because it is good, but also hopefully
these are the same brands that are bringing in the
marginalized people into their industry because it's so hard to
get a footing in anyway. And I've read so many
stories just being a part of the brewery world of
women being discriminated, whether it's because of them getting pregnant

(06:43):
or getting married or refusing some type of sexual advances
or being told they can't hang with the boys, which
is coded for you can't take abuse from us, as
we know. So when you have industries and when you
have brands that actually advocate in five or you do
want to talk about it, as in fact, I had
shared the story previously about one of my experiences at

(07:06):
Orpheus when I was in the bartending route, which you
automatically assume I have to put on the girliest, girliest,
girliest way of printing so I can get the tips.
You know, we talked about what we have to do
to perform to get that money, to get that result,
and I had one situation where we had an event.

(07:26):
The event was great, but here came these essentially rich
white men trying to be investors, not understanding the industry,
just trying to find a place to make money and
trying to serve them, and me being harassed by one
and not knowing for sure how my supervisors were gonna react.

(07:47):
Were they going to advocate for me, were they going
to stand up for me? Because I've seen so many
stories where they just start told you have to deal
with it. But I would love to say that Jason,
and at that time my manager Samantha had my back
as in fact, went full blown went after them, like
this man is not allowed to be in our brewery anymore.
You need to apologize. The person who brought this person
need to apologize, and I want to make sure that

(08:07):
you did it like sincerely, Like it was a whole
on and I remember coming back, I understand like feeling like, oh,
this is what it feels like to have an ally
and so brewery is like orpheus, and and Jason and Samantha,
who at that time sincerely had my back and were
angry for me, really taught me about oh yeah, okay,

(08:27):
there are people with integrity. This is ally ship. This
is not just performative. And I know when I see
things from the brewery, when it comes from Jason, when
it comes from Samantha, who are in this industry, and
of course Samantha, who is a female who was in
the industry, it had been in the industry for a while,
she understood, you know, the decimation that the just feeling

(08:48):
degraded if you're being dismissed or ignored, you know. So
so having them have my back felt so amazing, especially
as a person who typically I feel like I'm a
strong individual that can advocate for myself off but being
in that position with such an awkward place because I
didn't know what to do, and having people like Jason
and having people like Samantha having my back and showing

(09:09):
alleyship again as a woman of color, because it was
definitely racist, sexist that was coming away. And it's amazing
to see because again in this industry, and we talked
about repeatedly, the constant dismissal of abuse within these systems
is unfortunate and it's pushing good people out when it
shouldn't be. Like I hate to turn around because if

(09:32):
I get an article, I see several of the things
that I'm researching. These in twenty nineteen, they may have
had a female brewer, but because of the circumstances and
the environment, they're gone, right, you know, because they couldn't
from their perspective being the brewery or companies couldn't handle it,
when in actuality they shouldn't have had too, and no
one advocated for them. So when we have companies like
Second Shift where I see them and like Orpheus, when

(09:55):
I see them doing big things and advocating and allying
you gotta praise it. Mm hmmm. Yeah. Yeah, it's such
a nice thing to see. And unfortunately, as we've talked
about in the past in the show, especially when you
look at things like gatekeeping when it comes to especially
beer but in most alcohol, but also like the tipping

(10:18):
system and just how it functions and how it it
does put this pressure on you to perform in a
certain way and in a way that doesn't make you
feel good, but that's how you make your money. Like
it's really really problematic, it really is. But anyway, I digress,
and I'm gonna open my Cano beer right now already.

(10:41):
Oh I love that, right, I just like I have
to do this on Mike, So yes, I just now
open for those of you wondering a second shift of
brewings sam Squatch, which I feel some type of way
about since my name is Samantha. I know it's not
anything to do with me, but like, wait, what No,
But I love it, which is their West Coast style

(11:02):
I p A. So I'm very excited because I do
love a good I p A. And West Coast is
a nice little rain so oh yeah, there's a floral
hops I'm sniffing on it. They were going to have
like not smell Vision TV, but like smell Vision podcasts. Yes, uh,
let's take a quick sip. Oh yeah, there's that. There's
that hops but it ends really smoothly. I like this.

(11:23):
So we wanted specifically to highlight Second Shift Brewing, which
is located in Missouri. So if y'all in St. Louis,
you should definitely definitely be going there. You should definitely
be supporting. And they ain't had tons of beers out
there and a lot of them have, and then we
will post these pictures. Have a cat as part of
their can art because they are known for their brewery

(11:44):
cats that keep away with mice and they're apparently really
cute and get a ton of like social media notice,
so I love that. But yeah, so the co owners
are Libby and her husband's Stephen and Crieterer, and they
named this Second Shift because this is not their full
time jobs actually like drinking the beers like their part
time or after shift beers, and I love that. And

(12:04):
they are known for their I p a s, their loggers,
and definitely their stout, saying, uh you love a stout, right,
I have the stout. It's the silhouettes stout, what is
the art on that? Is that just like making me
remove it from my couzy. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I
gotta you gotta appreciate the can too, because it's a
silhouette of and it's like, it looks kind of like

(12:27):
smoking in the background. It's very evocative of maybe like
a wear wall kind of thing. So we can say
between my same squads which looks like a cat and
a sasquatch mixed together, and your silhouettes that looks like, yeah,
it looks like a horror movie cover, like the old
school horror movie covers. I love it again. They are
definitely up and coming. A little harder to get if

(12:51):
you're not in Missouri, but hopefully you can get connected
in Libby Crider. You can find her on Twitter as
well as on Instagram. You can find them on Instagram
as well. It's like Shift Brewing. But Libby initially was
a Somalia from what I understand some of our columns,
some of our interview state and then came into this
world with her husband, come into the beer world and

(13:12):
loving it and kind of growing in it. And one
of the things that she talked about having a passionate
about is bringing women and advocating for women in the industry,
and as of like talking about how yes, and also
racism and advocating and fighting combating racism within this industry.
And so it's lovely again to see I keep using
the word lovely because I don't know why, Apparently it's
my word now to see people who are using their

(13:35):
platforms to advocate. And she is getting definitely some attention,
and the brewery is definitely getting a lot of attention
for not only their cats and the social media presence,
but the quality of beer they have. And these beards
were definitely one of those. I was like, hey, Jason,
can you hook me up um? And he was right
on top of it. And they were so nice enough
to send us some of these beers. Not send us,

(13:56):
send him, They send him the beers. He's more special
than I am. Uh. And she has become a big
leader within the beer community, especially with the understanding and
the knowledge of beer as well as the passion for beer.
And we know you are at the size fair, the
depth and the level of measuring hops, the measuring of sours,

(14:17):
the aging and the barrels. How big this place within
these types of communities, and I think it's such a
great place. But yes, I am sipping on my Sam
squatch I p A like that. I don't think so, right,
but yeah. So the Samsun as a West Coast style

(14:38):
I p A and they describe it as having a
lovely malt and it does and a tiny hop bomb.
So yes, apparently this was named after a kitty, the
news kitty named Sam. So I don't feel so bad,
I guess whatever, but it is really really delicious, really
definitely hoppy. So if you don't like hops and sometimes

(14:59):
you have to ease into the happiness of a beer,
this might not be the one. But if you love
a good I p A, you love the good West
Coast depth of the happiness, of the piney nous of it.
So it's not less floral more so than more MALTI
so it leans towards that way. Although I can smell
the florals when I open it. It definitely smells like
that hey kind of ish smell. This is the one

(15:23):
for you, and I will be because this is absolutely
sixteen so y'all, this is definitely our last recording of
the day for a reason. Happy Hour indeed, drink, but yes,
tell us about yours silhouette. Yes, Silhouettes, which is a

(15:44):
lovely name. It is a stout, and you know, I
always forget for some reason I have in my head
that stounds are gonna be so like heavy. But this
is really nice and crisp and white. I can definitely
taste the coffee and chocolate, and I'm wondering it's psychosomatic
because I stayed up really late last night. Also there
was a huge storm in Georgia last night, like huge,

(16:06):
but I feel like energized. Yeah. Yeah, So they describe
it as rich and robust, Russian style imperil stout, dry
roasted coffee and chocolate. Yeah, but I'm I'm very much
enjoying it. So I also have one of those, so
I'm gonna have to get into it in a bit.
But yeah, this is an amazing beer. These are some
great works. I love local brewers. This one of my

(16:27):
favorite things to do. And that's probably suggest it's true,
but I miss traveling and going to different breweries and
checking out the different types of beers in different places
that are doing amazing. Worn't because each beer, each craft
is different, and I know I think I read Libby
actually prefers her pilsner, which I would love to try.

(16:48):
And if I am in Missouri, yeah bet you, I'm
gonna go to this brewery. But they are getting really
big accolades for the work that they're doing and really
big notoriety for the craft that they are honing in
Missouri and bringing in these really nice and tasty and
easy drinking beers, you know, And of course, I know

(17:08):
not everyone loves beers, and some people can't drink beers,
you know, you're allergic to the hobs and and that
makes me sad for you. I'm really so sorry. But yeah,
just great if you can support your local breweries. As
we know, just like any other place, local businesses and
any other communities during COVID and pandemic times, it's really
they've had a hard time and they've been hit pretty hard.

(17:28):
And at the same time, as we talked about before,
laws when it comes to beer and brewering prohibitions still
affects the way they sell and who profits off of
their products. So that's something to think on as well.
Some states are better than others, but definitely they have
a harder time and it's better to local the area
their brewery specifically their brewery personally, so if you can

(17:50):
get to their support to local brewers. Yes, yes, and
whatever you are drinking, we hope that you're enjoying it.
We hope that you're well. As always, we would love
to hear from you about other things we should spotlight
in this happy hour, whether they are alcoholic or not,
whether their drinks or not, we would love to talk
about it and highlight things people are doing. Also, just

(18:13):
whatever you're you're making, are you're into and our signature
cocktail We're still on the lookout for that, keep sending
suggestions on that. And we hope you enjoyed this happy
hour and thanks so much for joining us. Yes, thank
you guys, and cheers, y'all, Yes, cheers. If you would
like to email us, you can our emails Stuff Media

(18:33):
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