January 1, 2020 • 53 mins
Goodbye 2010s, hello 2020s! Anney and Samantha discuss what the next decade might hold for feminism, for the show, and for ourselves, and make a few bold predictions along the way.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff.
I never told your protection if I heart radios how
stuff works. And welcome to a new year and a
new decade. So happy new Year, Happy New Year. I
(00:27):
this is so weird to record this before. It's actually
why I'm a little confused, because like later on, we'll
come back and talk about what we actually did, probably
have a bunch of nothing, but now I wonder went
well for both of us. I am going to pretend
like it's the apocalypse, and as we talked about earlier,
and I'm gonna I don't know when that episode is
coming through about us talking about two thousand ten, goodbye
(00:51):
two thousand ten, And I was super confused and confused
it with the two thousand's because I am in that
point in my life where nothing really big has happened,
like the marriage, no wedding, no children, no houses. When
someone wants to buy me a house, um, I will say,
I am now to the point. These are some acknowledgements
that I did get a new job in two thousand ten.
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So so just as we're twenty, I will give my
highlight two thous that I forgot about because I was
a decade. All I got I started back to social
work because I left it for a little while because
of being really jaded and really actually had them to
some anxiety attacks. Because of that, came back to social
work brought me to this show. Um, as well as
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the fact that I have been able to and and
we'll talk about this later, I know, but to the
point that I can get my own whatever, whether it's
a car, all of that without another signature, I've established
enough credit to do that. And to me, that's really
significant because I had to work really hard because I
made some huge mistakes in my college years and those
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two thousands that were not actually acknowledging because it was
twenty years ago. Oh my god. Um, but I got
to that point. So you know, I'm like, okay, okay,
those are significant things in adult ing. Yes, so I
want to say that. So in two thousand twenty, happy
new year, as we've come in, I will become I'm
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hoping more acknowledging in the small things as obviously when
we recorded the throwbacks, yes, as look at the past rather,
I could not remember a damn thing. Yeah, that was
very funny. Look that put me in a spiral when
I went back to my house and talking to my
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friends who are my age but you're definitely not my age, um,
as we have established, and it was like, wait, what
does this look like? Because we become a whole new
group of women with not having settled down, working on
our career. I'm caring more about ourselves than pleasing someone
else or trying to become a couple, which is not
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a bad thing. This is all really big things, but
it's become more and more normalized that women can be
single and then do not have to be married before
thirty okay before party. Um. So it's really interesting to
have that conversation of like, what does that look like
when you go past a certain point when you're not
in your twenties, getting your new job, establishing yourself as
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an adult and an independent and going past that and
and not hitting the monmarkers of let's have a relationship,
let's get married, let's have children, you know, we have
the sp What does that look like as an adult? Yeah,
and it is going to be in this second I
think really fascinating stuff is going to come out because
it's kind of new, especially in our modern times, that
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people aren't doing this right and that it's okay, like
we are supporting each other and we have a support
group as before you were called spinsters or old maid
as we had previously talked about, which is absurd in
both of those conversations instead of just a bachelor, you know,
and now so okay and it's normal. And then also
we still have that social network as we're no longer
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kind of like the Bridget Jones. I don't know if
you've ever watched it. That's my Christmas Specials because I
love calling for Okay so much. Apparently he's single now. Um,
but she would go to the couple's dinner and then
one of the first things is why are women single now?
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I was one of the little bit little scenes and
she's like, oh, it doesn't help that we have scales
blah blah blah. Do you know, making herself the butt
of the joke because she's single. That's not such a
need anymore. And and accepting being single is okay, or
even with couples that aren't with children and still still
live that kind of vicarious life of we're not bound,
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not that children bound you, but there's a lot more
responsibility having children. As we know this when you're responsible
for a little life. But yeah, it's it's so it's
not as hard to be single in your later ages.
I feel like or be unattached in that life. Not
necessarily single people may be in a relationship, but you're
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not married. You're not tied down in that level of
depending on someone else's finances, depending on someone else's living situation,
and they're you know, good or bad decisions. So having
that availability of support network and having more and more
people becoming or in that lifestyle of waiting, it's kind
of nice and it's it's not so abnormal as once
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you would have seen in Hollywood of old, right, And
I think that's one of the things with technology and
twenty ten, it's the rapid growth of technology, we've been
exposed to a lot more experiences in different, um, different
ways of succeeding or living then the traditional Hollywood this
is success. You have married, you're married, you've got a house,
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you have two point five kids, whatever it is. Um
we've just seen that really shift, and I think we're
going to start really seeing the impacts of that shift
in this and so we see more and more women
coming in power, whether it's in politics, whether it's being
a CEO of a company, whether it's being a voice
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where those who are unheard or not not heard. Um,
we talked about people like Jennifer Gunter. Gen Gunter, Doctor
jen Gunter has become a phase for conversations of female health.
And I think it's fantastic because she is seen as
somewhat of a leader to be able to acknowledge all
of possibly not all of, but a lot of our
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issues that were not acknowledged before. And here is a doctor,
here's a doctor who um cares about women's health and
women's issues and have gone through these things as well,
who was speaking and have become more and more popular,
more and more acknowledged as a professional as an expert.
And I love that. And I say that because how
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long ago, I mean, shoot, talked about the Ohio and
I know we're gonna talk about little politics, but the
Ohio politician who tried to draft in about topic pregnancies
and reimplanting them and then having to come back and say,
I'm not a doctor, how did I know that didn't
work or what? And then doctor Gunter, who was one
of the first one, and the twitter verse saying what
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is wrong with you, this is not a thing. And
by the way, this is harmful for women who wish
this could be a thing. Your little ass hat that
was I love the term anyway he's asked, but he asked.
Hat is different from mass but every time supernatural, But
stuff like that. I love that bad has become a forefront,
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and as comes along, I think finally we're having moments
of being represented. It's coming to terms, coming to that point.
Finally we can see ourselves, whether it's and we're gonna
I know we're talking about the movie industry, what would
be talking about politics. Once again, we're talking about within
the medical field, just experts in general who we can
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see as Yes they've done the studies. Yes they've been
a part of these crisis as well. And I think
a part of that once again, doesn't me going back
to in two thousand's this is my male marker in
two thousand ten through now, I didn't see anything significant
because I didn't hit what would have been the normal
in you and I had the first episode are we failures?
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And I felt like I was a failure because I
hadn't hit those male markers. But I love the fact
that and coming in twenty when I look back at
that that's not abnormal necessarily, and in being able to
have conversations with my friend group who are in that
age group and have also been in the same place
I am, I can acknowledge the fact that yeah, oh yeah,
we those are not our mom male markers either, and
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redefining what mile markers or significant things are in our
life as being normal. I love that. Yeah, And um,
I really want to come back to this idea that
I read about when I was researching this episode to
call it um woman of the House because the drastic
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shifts we've seen in the past to two decades where
women are getting more of the college degrees, women are
actually a larger part of the workforce, women are doing
a lot of finances. They're also for better or worse,
largely worse, but they're caring for the family. They're like
head of the house. And it's caused such there are
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men's groups. I did not know this. I learned this
that people will go to where they feel like they
aren't meeting the standards of being a man because the
woman is the breadwinner and she does she makes all
of the big decisions, and I just I'm really fascinated
by all of these changes and what that's going to
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mean for a future. Um. So, yeah, a lot of
things are coming and it's interesting the battles, like you said,
people are fighting this as you're taking away tradition, you're
taking away are what's wholesome. So when you look at
Mike Pence and has standard a family and what the
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household should look like, which, by the way, obviously if
you've not listened to us before, we don't agree with
those and we're gonna try to be as objective as possible,
but you should know in twenty it's been a rough
four or five years and it's we're kind of tired
of playing middle line. Would you agree with that any
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And I think to this point that we can't afford
to be in that middle line anymore. Um, objective and
listening and debating is beautiful. I'm going to say that
I don't think there's a problem with that. But if
we're allowing things and sentiments to pass that are harmful
for an individual and not talking about it or not
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acknowledging it as harmful or not calling it out as
harmful is just as bad. And we know this as
a quote about the man who sits back and does nothing.
It's just as guilty or the woman, or the woman
or those who identify as nonfinary everybody. And so yeah,
with twenty comes with it's time, and it's been time,
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but I think we're getting a little more and more
courage to have that conversation of why is this ultimately
harmful for the individual, not even the humanity alone in itself?
And now I think that's the whole back and forth
is people are scared of change, and so what are
they going to do or what are we going to do?
Or what are whomever is scared of that change to
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try to fight it? And is not necessarily good or bad? Right,
We're going to be having a lot of those conversations
this coming here, So get ready, y'all get ready. Isn't
it weird to think when I was okay, so when
you look up what's gonna happen in twenties? Nobody likes
predicting because then you can go back and prove they're wrong.
So everyone was like, don't ask me. Probably self driving
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cars and five G but that's all I'll say. Um,
I was like, there's going to be more than one
presidential election in this decade, and it was just weird
to think I don't know because we're well, yeah, because
I was researching too, and it was hilarious about what
people are predicting, and then below it would be like,
this is probably not going to happen. Yes, people like
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to cover their ass by the way we should say.
I'm also I am very much this person where I'm like,
I may have mentioned it, and so therefore, if it happens,
like I told you what happened, but I wasn't really
really confidential, but I kind of think I knew was
going to happen to take ownership of it after the fact,
if you're correct, but if you aren't correct, I told
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you and moving on, Yes, yes, I see what you're
up to you. I think it works for me. Is
a big year because it marks a century since suffrage
in the United States and that this is the hundred
years since the Nineteenth Minute passed, which granted women the
right to vote in this country. Is also the tenth
anniversary of UN Women, and the UN has announced that
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the decade will mark the beginning of what they're calling
you in women to point. Oh wait, what does that
look like? Then what is you and women to point
out they're just having right now that having conversations about
about what they want in this decade, what they wanted
to look like, and they haven't announced it yet, but
they're conversing on it. Okay, So I need to know
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who are they? The UN people? But who is it
the women or people? Okay, the women are okay, Okay,
making sure it's like, are we talking about like the
representatives that they're out there or Okay, there's a part
of the conversations Okay, she says an ambassador, So like,
is it actually the UN members or the ambassadors off
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or so there's a whole group, Um, I think you
and women and it's it's not some of them are
ambassadors and some of them are members, a mixture, okay, okay,
all right, Emma, yeah, we'll see. So there are a
lot of organizations if this is something of interest with you,
because this is such a year as such an anniversary
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for a lot of things that are setting goals and
ways that you can help achieve those goals for equality
for everybody. Um. But yeah, that's that's pretty cool, right,
I know, like at the beginning of every decade, you
have hopes that by the end of that decade, something
of blah blah blah has happened. Yeah, I wonder if
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that puts a whole new spin on resolutions. It doesn't it,
I think it will. Again, as we talked about previously
about nine, everybody was super freaking now so assumed that
it was the end of the world. So Prince saying,
you know, party like it's nineteen nine, which I still
say that phrase in two thousand nineteen if you're welcome,
but which I just said it to our birthday. Um,
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but that you start having the significant I have to
do these things. Not only is it a new year,
but it's a new decade, is the beginning of something blah.
So we have to see hopefully you would have some
changes that were significant to that decade. Right, I'm gonna
have to rethink all of my resolutions. Oh do you
have resolution? I am? Yes. Are you a resolution person?
(15:18):
I am? Absolutely? I am. I'm very competitive, so I
usually achieved them, and I am so competitive that I
don't care that that sounds kind of braggy. It's true,
but most of my nerves kind of silly, Like one
year my resolution, I okay, So I make. However, many
the year ends in, so this year will be twenty
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UM and so a lot of them are small. So
one year I learned how to do the quarter thing
on your knuckles where you can like move the corner.
So I I have a lot an assortment of very
random skills that I learned from New Year's resolutions? What
was yours from twenty nineteen? And did you accomplish those?
(16:03):
Not all of them, but just a few. I did
accomplish most of them. One of them, I do fall
into the trap of making the really vague ones that
you can't succeed. That is the biggest New Year's resolution trap.
And one of them was essentially get your destructive streak
out of your system and then new decade, take better
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care of yourself. We'll see if that's true. I'm gonna try.
But I mean, you have gone through therapy. I knew,
have really made an effort in doing that, and that
was this year. That is a huge step. Yeah. Yeah,
And it's frustrating because as I said, and I think
in our Trauma Miny series, I really really went off
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the rails when Trump was elected, Like I was pretty
healthy before then, and then it just blew up and
so it's hard because I know is going to be hard,
but I keep putting it off and he really, there's
no something will always come up, so right, I'm gonna
that's my goal. Okay, Yeah, I don't do resolutions. Um.
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I am one of those. I'm a pessimist slash realist,
and I always, as a cynic, will always bet on
the worst case scenario and when i'm because it's like
I win win so I can say either I told
you so or all this pleasant. I got something out
of that because it's better than I thought kind of situation.
I am absolutely that person. Um. I also am absolutely
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that person that I'm like, yeah, that's about right. Something's
gonna go wrong, some disaster of some sorts. I'm gonna
be the butt of that story somehow or some way. Um.
So therefore I don't do a lot of resolutions. I
think the biggest thing though, when we ended last year,
and we've talked about this many times because it's just
a great story. I think you and I had a
really great friendship beginning story. Um, but like sitting together
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and planning out what it would look like to be
host together, not even hosts, but the fact that we
would do this series that was really really dear to
our hearts and very personal to both of us. And
then you know, my own goals, like I'm gonna make
it on the show, which by the way, I'm still
shocked that I'm on the show because I'm like, I'm
not that great and I'm definitely just coming on the
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cotails of seemingly like yourself, as well as Caroline and Kristen,
who I who I hold as dear friends as well
as amazing mentors in this field, because this is really
odd to me, this as a person who has been
on feet on the ground, in the in the in
the crowd, hands dirty type of person with social work
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coming into this seemingly It's like, what is this world?
And then also people seeing me sometimes it's really a
nerving because I love hiding. That's one of my favorite things,
being that, you know, person in the corner, saying a
snide comment every now and again, getting a chuckle and
then moving out of the way. That's one of my
favorite positions in life. But stuff like that has been
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things that I'm like, Okay, I'm taking a risk, and
I feel like I'm taking a chance and hopefully giving
some outlook that is a little different from your usual
than whether that's coming from social work, as I know
everybody's tired of hearing that conversation, but coming from that
social work field, coming from being a woman of color,
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coming from being adopted, you know, into this odd, odd
spectrum of being in the Southern culture as well, and
having an unsurety of what's going to happen next as
a female person of color in the South, you know,
And it's feeling like I'm underachieving because of my trauma
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as a child, holding with all the attachment issues. But
here I am, and I'm like, okay, I'm coming to
the point that I'm adulting. It's kind of about time
to be honest, um, but acknowledging that I have strengths
with my weaknesses and using the So it's kind of
an interesting prospect. And what does look like for me
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coming into my forties. I'm going to be coming, you know,
very well, a red one in I'll be forty, and
this is significant birth year for most people. And I'm
kind of trying to hold to the fact of what
have I contributed, What am I contributing? How have I helped?
Have I not helped, And how can I continue to
be a better, better source of whatever their advocate for
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those who can't speak for themselves, are better advocate for
those who are not being heard like that is something
that's in my twenty twenties, and I guess being a
part of this podcast being a part of something that
is very very poigned of trying to talk about the
intersectionality of not only feminism but just humanism. I mean,
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I guess that's the best way to put it. What
does that look like in especially when you feel opposed
and whether it's by other women, whether it's by politics,
whether it's famine members, whether it's your own head. Yeah,
it's too okay. You've got to get your pass through
these anxieties and insecurities to being stronger, not necessarily for yourself,
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but for others. And what does that look like? Again?
Everyone is going to say hindsight twenty you know it's true.
I'm not. You know, I'm you will I won't. A
lot of publications are preemptively calling the year of the Woman.
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That's what I'm saying. I'm claiming it, We'll claim it.
And when we say one women, I'm saying with the
X women. You know, w O M x N. That's
how we're going to call it. Okay. So, for the
first time ever, the Center of American Women in Politics
collected a data set of female rebound candidates candidates who
decided to run again after a law US and as
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comes to a close. They've identified seventy nine. This is
the first time they've ever had those numbers. The mindset
previously was that in general, if a female candidate laws
in election, she went on to something else on like
male Canadas. And we also just haven't had as many
women running for office as we do now. In either way,
this is an encouraging development. Another exciting thing is that
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as we get more women in office, we're going to
start seeing them and act policies in this decade, and
one example of this is the policy responses to me too.
This movement led to an increase increase in sexual harassment
bills introduced in states across the United States, which many
of them will go into effect in or or soon
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after that. So that's I mean, we can see it's happening.
I'm just saying people are becoming women x UM coming
on and understanding we got to go past our fears
and anxieties and securities because it's better for everyone has
a collective and yes, it's time, it's time and fun.
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Side note is when a lot of movies in the
future took place like Blade Runner still waiting from a
flying car. I'm waiting for the fashion decision where we
all wear like silver jumpsuits or the black leather. I want,
you know, just everybody. Besides where you're gonna wear a
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metallic who knows why to be fair? I wait black
all the time. But nothing is faux leather, pleather, none
of that because I just don't I won't comfort. Everything
to me should be spandex. That's what is happening with
future people. Well, you know it's got to be comfortable
spandex because we can go superhero round on this. But
I don't know. Well, let's go Wally in which they're
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all just in their floating chairs in the jumpsuits and
that's all very obviously either polyester of swords that wanted
to are comfortable. I wanted to be like the cotton
soft cotton. Well that's what I want. One of the
technology predictions I did find, as we said in our
Goodbye twenty tens episode. Fashion is a big thing, even
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if we didn't talk about it that much. Is that
clothes there will be nano technology enclosed now and that
there will be other fashionable expand to include more than
what we think of it now. So it was it
going to be like a pant less but with pants
maybe those Speaking of technology, let's talk about some technology. Um,
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it's so one of my favorite nerdy things. As Samantha knows,
I love science, I specifically love physics, but I was
really into, uh, this graph of showing how technologies just
we're at the very bottom of a huge exponential increase,
really not two dozen ten, because I feel like so
many we're jumped. Yeah, so we're like coming up now.
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So imagine you're looking at a big kind of you.
We're at this kind of center top of the year.
We're about to go. Okay, okay, that makes it. Probably doesn't,
but no, I saw it because you can basically, technology
is going to improve at a really really rapid rate,
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and it will continue to change how we interact or
don't interact. So in two thousand eighteen, Live Person asked
people to name a famous woman in tech, and only
four percent were able to While we're able to name
a famous men in tech, I'm guessing it's mainly Apple people.
A lot of people said Alexa or Syrias. Oh no.
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But as more women take on leadership roles in the
tech world, there's hoping that that will change. I'm not
gonna lie how to moment where Alexa and Sirium like,
who are those actual voices? Because you know, like the
movie Her, Yeah, you start wondering, who are these actual people?
I knew tangentially not tangentially a friend of a friend, uh,
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the voice of Marta, which is our public transport in Atlanta,
and it was weird to hear her speak, I would think,
especially like in England when they do mind the gap,
mind You're like cool. Artificial intelligence is going to play
a role in the twenties and beyond, and as we know,
coding can contain bias from the coders that can be
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baked into the code of an AI, which would be huge.
Amazon did away with its AI recruitment tool after that
AI showed a preference for male candidates. So right now
only twelve of the AI research workforce is made up
of women, only twelve, and only of leadership positions are
held by people of color. So to combat this, there's
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a push to diversify the AI world through programs and
nonprofits like AI for All and AI. This is a
huge conversation for a lot, a lot, a lot of reasons,
but it's gonna play a role in pretty much everything
we're going to talk about, and also just pretty much
everything movies, book, TV, music, maybe maybe even podcast. Wait,
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am I gonna list my job before I even started? Maybe?
Oh damn well, Actually, and this is a whole other
nerdy topic I love dishing dishing on is empathy. So
jobs that require empathy and human human interaction, they don't
think the AI will be able to replace that. There's
been a conversation because that's one of the things I've
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said about social work and any of the body who
does any of those types of level, whether they work
with children, women, homeless, whatever, that they're not going to
be able to do that. But there seems to be
a back and forth about whether or not people in
technology and who are really big into technology like to
argue with me about the benefits of sure these items.
I'm like, huh wow, yeah. And it is interesting too
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because I know for actors like I read a lot
of headlines that said, um, James ten is going to
be the biggest star of the twenties because they're remaking
a movie with him in it. Really, yes, I don't know. Yeah,
so there is that aspect that they're already kind of
replacing actors, and that seems like a very human profession
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that we're like requiring. So we we'll see. Yeah, and
AI is going to also play a huge role in
several things we're not going to talk about, but one
of the big ones is medicine, the medical field, education,
and self driving vehicles. I've been kind of work on
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that run a minute. I think it will happen to stick.
I will make a prediction. You're gonna make that prediction.
That's right. You can come back at me and say
any hope of friends, then I hope we haven't become innoma.
And yeah, five G is gonna be a thing. That's
what almost every article said. Five G seems like that
(28:58):
seems fairly plausible. Yeah, yeah, totally. I actually thought pipe
was already a thing because my my Internet says I
can access pipe G. Really, I just assumed that I
was always behind. Well, we clearly are not. This is
not an Internet technology show. Nope. So speaking of AI
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as more and more tasks become automated, endless predict that
women will feel the first way, since so many of
our jobs are gender skewed into the late twenty twenties.
But in the long run, jobs long dominated by men
will likely be hit harder, which makes sense because when
we think about things like garbage trucks and all over that, Yeah,
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so many accidents in so many ways of like safe
safety precautions. One better way to make it easier by
having things that won't get harmed or I can't sue
unless the machines become sentient. Oh lord, oh Laura speaking
a blade runner. The World Economic Forum estimates that by
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over seventy million jobs will be replaced by automation, but
three million will be created as a lot of these
jobs will be in STEM where women are traditionally under represented.
This could impact women more, but this means it's the
time that we can change that. We know it's coming,
we can work to change that. It further emphasizes the
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significance of getting girls and women into STEM fields and yeah,
we're gonna have to deal with a lot of the
things it's not like Onces come to a close all
those issues go away. We're gonna have to deal with
a lot of the things we talked about in that episode, um,
including deep fakes, which is a very I find very distressing,
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so distressing. Yes, yes, so that's kind of a brief
overview on on some things that might happen in twenty
We do have some more pop culture things that might
happen in who You're so excited? I am. But first
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the twenty tins will continue into the twenties when it
comes to you a greater number of societal thrillers and
horror movies, and the increasing number of women and people
of color directing and starring in blockbusters. Oh, for example,
Kathy Anne's Birds of Prey starring Margot Robbie Nikki Carro
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is helming Mulan, which I'm very excited about. The Black Widow,
directed by Kate Shortland and starring Scarlett Johansson and chloes
Out is slated to direct Marvels, The Eternals and all
four of the Marvel DC superhero movies coming out in
twenty are directed by women and to our Chinese American,
which I'm excited about. And yeah, now I guess with
Spider Man, the first one to helm the new generation
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of Marvels since all of the so phase four. The
last movie of Phase three was Spider Man Far from Home.
So that was a part of that Phase three. Yes, okay, okay, okay,
because I thought maybe that was Phase four, but that's
opening up to Phase four. Yeah, okay, so in twenties
we're going to have Phase four, so that should be interesting. Yeah.
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And I remember, as a lot of you probably do,
when the Marvel announced all of their projects and so
many of them involved women and people of color, and
it was a lot more diverse than they have been.
And there was of course the internet backlash of dudes
like no, not one Marvel or whatever. But and as
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we said, and um the previous episode, I know some
people might be tired of superhero movies, are wondering where
we're talking about them, but so many people see them
and it really does impact kind of a lot of
culture and are just where we are they honestly, by
being more diverse, it does help have these conversations and
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move the needle right and as we talked about with
fan girls, look, if you bring in fan girls for
more and more fan girls, that's a lot of money
to be made. And we already said that. Yes, Black
Widow looked amazing. It does right now. Another one I'm
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excited about but very curious Thor Love and Thunder, which
comes at one, featuring Natalie portmaneu Thor an Tessa Thompson
as Valco. I guess I don't know that Natalie Portman
is going to become Thora, but I'm pretty sure she
picked up the hammer. They kind of announced that, they
are not already announced it. Yeah, but it's I don't
I don't know if she's going to become Thor's significant role.
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She's gonna be like the news Thor ladies or um
and take it with T love I love, of course.
So I'm very excited about that Black Panther two in
two blade Mrs Marvel. She hulk of interest to me,
but not particularly like woman based Falcon and Winter Soldier
coming out on Disney. Plush is on Disney Plus, yes,
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Disney Plus. And Thrust, which I've been asking a lot
of people if they've heard that phrase, and no one
has just let you know. Well, it's definitely a thing.
And I think, again, this may be one of those
things where I was really confused about what decade I
came from. Significant decades and I'm that old. I'm like
those kiss and I can't imagine look on my mom's
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face if I tried to explain this here. But I
think I might, I think I might. Please do I'll
tell you how it goes. So of twenties Sundance Film
Festival competition directors, forty six percent are female, which marks
the third year in a role in a role in
a row that numbers has gone up. Y are people
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of color and of the lgbt Q plus community. So
he was still not high enough, y'all. Still not high enough?
Definitely not, but it is encouraging that the numbers keep
going up. Absolutely And because I'm a huge, huge nerd,
and I've made it very clear on this show. Before
Spider Verse two comes out sometime in two, have you
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already set time with Chuck to do movie Crush with
them for that one? I should on the calendar. I
was like, Chuck, can we do a part two on
the movie Crush where I continue to talk about Spider Verse.
Chuck is our celebrity, obviously, and so he loved you
on that, and they loved you on that. So that
means you're a celebrity, and I'm very impressed. It means
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that I can make demands. You're right, I love it.
So when it comes to television, television is in such
a state of change right now. A lot of big
TV shows are on their way out, including Supernatural, leaving
a vacuum for studios to fill, and reports indicate that
multiple television networks are pushing for more female lead and
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female directed shows, and more show centered on people of color,
which is also promising. The c W is actually, I
believe the one exception because their audience excuse so female.
They're trying to find the show which hey, because they
did have The Pretty Little Liars, which was a huge
hit for them, um as well as they put it
in a Supergirl uh, and they did Black Lightning, who
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is now female. I think the stars now female, which
is awesome, and that my neighborhood did they think film
so many things that I just don't know what's happening.
It feels like they're not all that great, but whatever
passing judgment. Oh, actually we did do in my neighborhood.
The hate you give was filmed there. Cool. Yeah, I
was very excited about that. I was tried so hard
to find I was not cold enough. So you know,
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um and I say, we talked about you, and I
talked a little bit about doll Face. Yeah. I haven't
seen it yet, but my friends recently watched it and
they are are they fans. So I have a hard
time with it because it is so on the nose.
I started watching it, I kind of had to back
off because I am a binger. So if I'm into something,
I commit and I'm going to finish it out. And
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I think you were even impressed by the time frame
up supernatural, don't worry about it. But yeah, Dolphin's I
think had some really nice antics within the problematic antics
that wasn't seen to me can be overused, as we've
talked about before about women being friends and women being
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advocates for each other. Um. And for those who don't
know the actual plo, I'm not given too much. But
the main character comes in after a breakup, a heart breakup,
realized that she has no friends female friends, and goes
back to her past to find her female friends and
then the relationship there is and trying to bond with women,
and I guess to me, it's kind of one of
those as you and I have talked about with the
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Last Adventures movie, where they tried so hard to be like, yeah,
women are great. Look at this the second clip of
women being great, right, But that's kind of what it
felt like to me with Dolphins. And and again this
is completely my opinion because it's cute and all, but
then you still have the overachieving tiger mom Asian character
in there, and I understand it's kind of niche, over reaching,
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sarcastic show. Um, what is that parody? It's kind of
a parody of that, but it just feels like it's
also feeding into this is who you are, this is
who they are, right. So you do have this like
Brenda Song who plays the overbearing, overachieving character, and then
you have Shane Mitchell who comes in as the party
girl who doesn't have enough whatever, but that she's easy going,
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nicer than everyone type of mentality. So it's kind of like, Okay, cool, cool,
I'm really excited that this cast has brought this together.
And then you also have an imagining Catwoman character that's
a part of this. Yeah, so it's all very interesting take.
I'll have to check it out. It was on a
lot of people's list when I was like, what's gonna
happen to television, and a lot of people's at doll
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face why, I don't know. I haven't seen it, so
I don't know. I will say it does have one
of my favorite actors because I watched Criminal Minds forever
because I am that person, Matthew grey Googler who was
the ultimate nerd hot guy, and he plays uh, a
main guy interest character. So it's interesting to have him
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in there. Okay, well I'll I'll report back um when
I wherever I get around to it. That's really easy watch.
So one thing we do know is that traditional television
has changed will continue to change. Streaming, they believe as
we've reached the saturation point. There are too many services.
Most people are only willing to pay for two, and
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now we have ten plus services. Now I'm trying to
think about many I pay for. You know, you gotta
have the one you share, so everybody contributes. So so
I don't actually share any of mine. Oh I do
I have a pot, so I did one, but then
as soon as my series at a Light went off,
discontinued it. You know what I'm talking about. Everybody did it.
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Everybody did it. I didn't do it, but my HBO
comes with my internet. Actually, so TV is going to
continue to change. What is that? What we can say
music a music experts predict that technology, as it advances
and becomes more readily available, music creation will become more democratized.
Already producers have gotten younger. An article I read give
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the example of Billie Eilish and her brother Phineas, who
produced When We All Fall Asleep? Where Do We Go?
In his apartment? With readily available music processing programs? And
on top of that, musicians being discovered on things like
Instagram or TikTok. But to be fair, they also were
being discovered in YouTube. On YouTube they were, but now
(40:58):
even more so. Understand tektok anyway, so we'll probably see
continue dominance a female artist like of course, I feel
like these people will never die because they're gonna be legends. Beyonce,
Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Lizza, Rihanna, Cardi B and Nicki Minaj.
I think they keep putting their names out there as Yeah,
I mean the kind of it's kind of the battle
of who's the queen, but it's it's the end of
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mean girls. You put up the crown. Yeah, And that's
become more and more looked down on, which I love.
I love that instead of competing with each other, is
now a time to come together and it's each other.
It is the beautiful love each other. Another beautiful thing.
Moving on to other entertainment, The Last of Us two, which,
as everyone knows, probably the Last of Us is my
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favorite video game. I had no idea what that was,
and it just said. It features Ellie, which is one
of the first really strong young video game characters, playable
video game characters that I really immediately was moved by,
very complex, very well thought out character. The sequel is
coming in February, and very very very very excited sometime
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I'm seeing in February. Amount actually got delayed. Um the
Olympics again, there's gonna be more than one Olympics, but
I'm excited to see Smone Biles at Olympics to a right, yes,
yeah uh. And then the rise of e sports. This
was in a lot of people's this is what's gonna
happen in twenties. We talked about the sports very briefly
(42:28):
in our Women in Gaming episode and how very few
women are represented and what is actually a very lucrative industry.
So as e sports grow more popular, which they are,
I believe more people watched the World of Warcraft some
video game thing than the Super Bowl. Um, the last
the last super Bowl. Yeah, this is gonna be a
(42:50):
conversation that we need to have. We want to see
awesome women in the field of sports. Yes, so a
lot of things on her I is in and speaking
of a lot of things in the horizon. We have
to talk about politics. But first we're gonna pause for
one more quick break for word from our sponsor, and
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we're back, Thank you sponsor. Yes, we're back with politics.
We do have a very big presidential election coming up
here in the United States, and just so you are prepared,
we're going to be talking a lot about politics and
women in politics and those who identify as women or
non binary people coming in. Hopefully they'll be more and
more of those represented in politics. Is going to happen
(43:43):
because it is and we know it's a big as here.
It is. It is Yeah, as we record this, we
don't even have a Democratic candidate. And yeah, it is
weird to think there will be more elections. There will
be two more this decade. Yeah, not to mention all
of the mid term state and local elections. And we're
(44:04):
going to have to do something about that student debt.
And I say this personally as myself at this point,
I still have a little bit of student debt um
as of now in the US forty three million student
loan borrowers oh an estimated one point for trillion dollars.
And getting an education, let's be honest, should not be
something that financially follows you around the rest of your life.
But yet it still does. And we know that. And
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I will say for my coming up, my brother, my
older brother, and my I don't I think my sister.
Neither one of them had what we call the Hope Scholarship,
which is in the state Georgia. And I know a
lot of places in the country have this type of
education where you're an A B student, you get fully funded.
You may not get paid for, you may not get
scholarships for housing or all of that, but if you're
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in state tuition, it's covered but before then people had
to either you had to choose to go to school
or to get a job. And and as we know,
I think, as I've learned growing as an adult take
care of myself. I can't do both because I can't
pay and give that much time and try to get
money at the same time. And and those who can
who do it, it's hard, and you know what, hats
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off to you. We see you, we know you're working hard.
Do it um. But yeah, that's one of the big
questions that's coming up, and one of the big debates
of where do we lie when it comes to education,
and why are we penalizing people for trying to further
themselves and should we be allowing this type of situation
to grow and this type of companies that are making
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money off of it? Is that who is truly being
benefited for this kind of profit profiteering? I guess right.
So that's something we're gonna have to do with. Something
else we're gonna have to deal with is sustainability and
climate change. One big thing I saw is that China
has a plan to ban it cold by the end
of thewies and six of its main districts, and that
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is a huge, huge thing. It would be interesting. Yeah,
they are leading the way when it comes to sustainability technology,
So something to keep an eye on. And one I
did want to mention when I was searching twenties women whatever,
you know, trying to find any kind of thing, Google
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tried to auto correct it to um, we will have
a female president in the twenties, just not now, meaning
there will not be a female president. I got me thinking,
do you think we'll see a female president in twenties twenties?
I really hope. So yeah, I think the narrative has changed,
(46:39):
is changing better and better, and people are finally facing
the fact that women are put on a different standard
than men. And I think that's one of the big
things of like of having when Hillary Clinton came in
and her having her condientials, but then her having that
type of baggage that she brought in and her being
titles likable. Why didn't you use these people instead? And
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now we have those people and they're still unlikable, and
it's it's we're turning. Some people are actually changing their
mind realizing oh, this really is a thing, because they
were the one that to say, well, if you had
this person and it's not working. And I think I'm hoping,
but that's happening, and I'm and all. When it comes
(47:24):
down to it, I want to see that progress. But
I want to see someone who's just qualified period. You know.
That's kind of where we are at this point in time,
and at this time it may not be who I
would want it to be, but I think at the
very least, I'm going to cross my fingers and and
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and truly believe that people are going to see that
leadership is important, and who we choose is really important,
and who we choose to ignore is also really important.
That's my non answer that the traditional we've come out
are predictions are there will be five G and I said,
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I'm sticking with it. Oh, automated cars, I think that
will be a thing. Um. Yeah. When we're talking about hopes,
and I was thinking about what I hope for. I
want to see more women in people of color making
badass content, right. I want to see them in leadership positions. Um.
I wanted to continue having these conversations around intersectionality, sexism, racism,
how we can uplift marginalized voices. I want to see
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women's equality improve everywhere. Because again, the United States is
not the only thing in the world. And I read
a lot of articles that said, this is our final
decade in power. I mean, and that makes sense as
you see the protests happening for a lot of movements,
whether it's India in Brazil had really powerhouse uh protests
for people for women as well, and seeing that, Yeah,
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that absolutely makes sense. Because our voices are getting louder
and louder and louder. And we have Greta I'm just
gonna call it Gretta. We had Greta coming in talking
about the fact that she's uh, you know, she's concerned.
And these group of kids are coming out strongly and
I love that. And it's an international group of kids
and that's beautiful and I think, yeah, absolutely, that makes
perfect sense. Do it. Yeah, inspirational inspiration. Um, I want
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to see white women recognize their privilege more. Yes, I
want us to talk about violence against trans people because
they're not having those conversations enough, the rolling back of
abortion bands. Yes, I want to see more women in
leadership positions all around the world. And I hope we
finally get serious about climate change and affordable healthcare. Passing
the e r A would be cool, the equals Equal
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Rights Amendment and more podcasts for women. I just want
those really pantsless pants, the pantsless pants. Uh. I will
put in another another very vague prediction that technology is
going to drastically change. I believe that is true. I
will stand behind that because the changes in my lifetime
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as an adult has been shocking. The things that I
and again some of you are not going to realize
this for another years and that's fine, but coming to
the point of where I am today too. When I
left college thinking I know the world, the mass changes
in technology alone is shocking and looking back on what
(50:24):
it was then and to the things that I can't
work today because I don't understand it. I've become my
mother just like I just have to acknowledge. Yeah, it's
going to be crazy the things that we do, how
easy things are going to be accessible and at the
same time, how detrimental those accessible things can be for people. Um.
It's kind of like when I talked to my kids
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that I work with and I'm like, hey, if you
put it out, there is out there forever, nothing is
private and having to from you know, years ago that
wasn't a thing to today, it's like what and kids
not acknowledging an under standing that what that means. That
was something else I read in a lot of these
pieces about the twenties is that privacy is going to
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become a quaint thing of the past. It's almost going
to be like, oh, yeah, is that Black Marror episode
the one of two that I watched? There you go
impart into this conversation. Yeah, And there's also a lot
of interesting technology around speaking of Black Mirror, of being
able to digitize yourself after you die that might happen,
(51:26):
and then being able to interact with using your brain,
just interact with technology that chip in the brain to
turn things on the whole chip in the brain. As
they say, um, who says every day Samantha, you never
asked that you do? Uh And Yeah. For the show,
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the book club going. And we just want to say,
as we close out this episode, we're so so thankful
to have you listeners in our community, constantly making us better,
and we hope that you had a safe, happy holiday
and that you have a safe, happy decade. Yes, thank
you so much for being accepting and being patient as
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Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff.
I never told your protection if I heart radios how
stuff works. And welcome to a new year and a
new decade. So happy new Year, Happy New Year. I
(00:27):
this is so weird to record this before. It's actually
why I'm a little confused, because like later on, we'll
come back and talk about what we actually did, probably
have a bunch of nothing, but now I wonder went
well for both of us. I am going to pretend
like it's the apocalypse, and as we talked about earlier,
and I'm gonna I don't know when that episode is
coming through about us talking about two thousand ten, goodbye
(00:51):
two thousand ten, And I was super confused and confused
it with the two thousand's because I am in that
point in my life where nothing really big has happened,
like the marriage, no wedding, no children, no houses. When
someone wants to buy me a house, um, I will say,
I am now to the point. These are some acknowledgements
that I did get a new job in two thousand ten.
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So so just as we're twenty, I will give my
highlight two thous that I forgot about because I was
a decade. All I got I started back to social
work because I left it for a little while because
of being really jaded and really actually had them to
some anxiety attacks. Because of that, came back to social
work brought me to this show. Um, as well as
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the fact that I have been able to and and
we'll talk about this later, I know, but to the
point that I can get my own whatever, whether it's
a car, all of that without another signature, I've established
enough credit to do that. And to me, that's really
significant because I had to work really hard because I
made some huge mistakes in my college years and those
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two thousands that were not actually acknowledging because it was
twenty years ago. Oh my god. Um, but I got
to that point. So you know, I'm like, okay, okay,
those are significant things in adult ing. Yes, so I
want to say that. So in two thousand twenty, happy
new year, as we've come in, I will become I'm
(02:16):
hoping more acknowledging in the small things as obviously when
we recorded the throwbacks, yes, as look at the past rather,
I could not remember a damn thing. Yeah, that was
very funny. Look that put me in a spiral when
I went back to my house and talking to my
(02:38):
friends who are my age but you're definitely not my age, um,
as we have established, and it was like, wait, what
does this look like? Because we become a whole new
group of women with not having settled down, working on
our career. I'm caring more about ourselves than pleasing someone
else or trying to become a couple, which is not
(02:58):
a bad thing. This is all really big things, but
it's become more and more normalized that women can be
single and then do not have to be married before
thirty okay before party. Um. So it's really interesting to
have that conversation of like, what does that look like
when you go past a certain point when you're not
in your twenties, getting your new job, establishing yourself as
(03:21):
an adult and an independent and going past that and
and not hitting the monmarkers of let's have a relationship,
let's get married, let's have children, you know, we have
the sp What does that look like as an adult? Yeah,
and it is going to be in this second I
think really fascinating stuff is going to come out because
it's kind of new, especially in our modern times, that
(03:44):
people aren't doing this right and that it's okay, like
we are supporting each other and we have a support
group as before you were called spinsters or old maid
as we had previously talked about, which is absurd in
both of those conversations instead of just a bachelor, you know,
and now so okay and it's normal. And then also
we still have that social network as we're no longer
(04:05):
kind of like the Bridget Jones. I don't know if
you've ever watched it. That's my Christmas Specials because I
love calling for Okay so much. Apparently he's single now. Um,
but she would go to the couple's dinner and then
one of the first things is why are women single now?
(04:26):
I was one of the little bit little scenes and
she's like, oh, it doesn't help that we have scales
blah blah blah. Do you know, making herself the butt
of the joke because she's single. That's not such a
need anymore. And and accepting being single is okay, or
even with couples that aren't with children and still still
live that kind of vicarious life of we're not bound,
(04:47):
not that children bound you, but there's a lot more
responsibility having children. As we know this when you're responsible
for a little life. But yeah, it's it's so it's
not as hard to be single in your later ages.
I feel like or be unattached in that life. Not
necessarily single people may be in a relationship, but you're
(05:08):
not married. You're not tied down in that level of
depending on someone else's finances, depending on someone else's living situation,
and they're you know, good or bad decisions. So having
that availability of support network and having more and more
people becoming or in that lifestyle of waiting, it's kind
of nice and it's it's not so abnormal as once
(05:30):
you would have seen in Hollywood of old, right, And
I think that's one of the things with technology and
twenty ten, it's the rapid growth of technology, we've been
exposed to a lot more experiences in different, um, different
ways of succeeding or living then the traditional Hollywood this
is success. You have married, you're married, you've got a house,
(05:52):
you have two point five kids, whatever it is. Um
we've just seen that really shift, and I think we're
going to start really seeing the impacts of that shift
in this and so we see more and more women
coming in power, whether it's in politics, whether it's being
a CEO of a company, whether it's being a voice
(06:15):
where those who are unheard or not not heard. Um,
we talked about people like Jennifer Gunter. Gen Gunter, Doctor
jen Gunter has become a phase for conversations of female health.
And I think it's fantastic because she is seen as
somewhat of a leader to be able to acknowledge all
of possibly not all of, but a lot of our
(06:35):
issues that were not acknowledged before. And here is a doctor,
here's a doctor who um cares about women's health and
women's issues and have gone through these things as well,
who was speaking and have become more and more popular,
more and more acknowledged as a professional as an expert.
And I love that. And I say that because how
(06:55):
long ago, I mean, shoot, talked about the Ohio and
I know we're gonna talk about little politics, but the
Ohio politician who tried to draft in about topic pregnancies
and reimplanting them and then having to come back and say,
I'm not a doctor, how did I know that didn't
work or what? And then doctor Gunter, who was one
of the first one, and the twitter verse saying what
(07:16):
is wrong with you, this is not a thing. And
by the way, this is harmful for women who wish
this could be a thing. Your little ass hat that
was I love the term anyway he's asked, but he asked.
Hat is different from mass but every time supernatural, But
stuff like that. I love that bad has become a forefront,
(07:39):
and as comes along, I think finally we're having moments
of being represented. It's coming to terms, coming to that point.
Finally we can see ourselves, whether it's and we're gonna
I know we're talking about the movie industry, what would
be talking about politics. Once again, we're talking about within
the medical field, just experts in general who we can
(08:00):
see as Yes they've done the studies. Yes they've been
a part of these crisis as well. And I think
a part of that once again, doesn't me going back
to in two thousand's this is my male marker in
two thousand ten through now, I didn't see anything significant
because I didn't hit what would have been the normal
in you and I had the first episode are we failures?
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And I felt like I was a failure because I
hadn't hit those male markers. But I love the fact
that and coming in twenty when I look back at
that that's not abnormal necessarily, and in being able to
have conversations with my friend group who are in that
age group and have also been in the same place
I am, I can acknowledge the fact that yeah, oh yeah,
we those are not our mom male markers either, and
(08:44):
redefining what mile markers or significant things are in our
life as being normal. I love that. Yeah, And um,
I really want to come back to this idea that
I read about when I was researching this episode to
call it um woman of the House because the drastic
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shifts we've seen in the past to two decades where
women are getting more of the college degrees, women are
actually a larger part of the workforce, women are doing
a lot of finances. They're also for better or worse,
largely worse, but they're caring for the family. They're like
head of the house. And it's caused such there are
(09:27):
men's groups. I did not know this. I learned this
that people will go to where they feel like they
aren't meeting the standards of being a man because the
woman is the breadwinner and she does she makes all
of the big decisions, and I just I'm really fascinated
by all of these changes and what that's going to
(09:49):
mean for a future. Um. So, yeah, a lot of
things are coming and it's interesting the battles, like you said,
people are fighting this as you're taking away tradition, you're
taking away are what's wholesome. So when you look at
Mike Pence and has standard a family and what the
(10:09):
household should look like, which, by the way, obviously if
you've not listened to us before, we don't agree with
those and we're gonna try to be as objective as possible,
but you should know in twenty it's been a rough
four or five years and it's we're kind of tired
of playing middle line. Would you agree with that any
(10:32):
And I think to this point that we can't afford
to be in that middle line anymore. Um, objective and
listening and debating is beautiful. I'm going to say that
I don't think there's a problem with that. But if
we're allowing things and sentiments to pass that are harmful
for an individual and not talking about it or not
(10:52):
acknowledging it as harmful or not calling it out as
harmful is just as bad. And we know this as
a quote about the man who sits back and does nothing.
It's just as guilty or the woman, or the woman
or those who identify as nonfinary everybody. And so yeah,
with twenty comes with it's time, and it's been time,
(11:14):
but I think we're getting a little more and more
courage to have that conversation of why is this ultimately
harmful for the individual, not even the humanity alone in itself?
And now I think that's the whole back and forth
is people are scared of change, and so what are
they going to do or what are we going to do?
Or what are whomever is scared of that change to
(11:36):
try to fight it? And is not necessarily good or bad? Right,
We're going to be having a lot of those conversations
this coming here, So get ready, y'all get ready. Isn't
it weird to think when I was okay, so when
you look up what's gonna happen in twenties? Nobody likes
predicting because then you can go back and prove they're wrong.
So everyone was like, don't ask me. Probably self driving
(11:59):
cars and five G but that's all I'll say. Um,
I was like, there's going to be more than one
presidential election in this decade, and it was just weird
to think I don't know because we're well, yeah, because
I was researching too, and it was hilarious about what
people are predicting, and then below it would be like,
this is probably not going to happen. Yes, people like
(12:21):
to cover their ass by the way we should say.
I'm also I am very much this person where I'm like,
I may have mentioned it, and so therefore, if it happens,
like I told you what happened, but I wasn't really
really confidential, but I kind of think I knew was
going to happen to take ownership of it after the fact,
if you're correct, but if you aren't correct, I told
(12:44):
you and moving on, Yes, yes, I see what you're
up to you. I think it works for me. Is
a big year because it marks a century since suffrage
in the United States and that this is the hundred
years since the Nineteenth Minute passed, which granted women the
right to vote in this country. Is also the tenth
anniversary of UN Women, and the UN has announced that
(13:06):
the decade will mark the beginning of what they're calling
you in women to point. Oh wait, what does that
look like? Then what is you and women to point
out they're just having right now that having conversations about
about what they want in this decade, what they wanted
to look like, and they haven't announced it yet, but
they're conversing on it. Okay, So I need to know
(13:27):
who are they? The UN people? But who is it
the women or people? Okay, the women are okay, Okay,
making sure it's like, are we talking about like the
representatives that they're out there or Okay, there's a part
of the conversations Okay, she says an ambassador, So like,
is it actually the UN members or the ambassadors off
(13:48):
or so there's a whole group, Um, I think you
and women and it's it's not some of them are
ambassadors and some of them are members, a mixture, okay, okay,
all right, Emma, yeah, we'll see. So there are a
lot of organizations if this is something of interest with you,
because this is such a year as such an anniversary
(14:09):
for a lot of things that are setting goals and
ways that you can help achieve those goals for equality
for everybody. Um. But yeah, that's that's pretty cool, right,
I know, like at the beginning of every decade, you
have hopes that by the end of that decade, something
of blah blah blah has happened. Yeah, I wonder if
(14:30):
that puts a whole new spin on resolutions. It doesn't it,
I think it will. Again, as we talked about previously
about nine, everybody was super freaking now so assumed that
it was the end of the world. So Prince saying,
you know, party like it's nineteen nine, which I still
say that phrase in two thousand nineteen if you're welcome,
but which I just said it to our birthday. Um,
(14:54):
but that you start having the significant I have to
do these things. Not only is it a new year,
but it's a new decade, is the beginning of something blah.
So we have to see hopefully you would have some
changes that were significant to that decade. Right, I'm gonna
have to rethink all of my resolutions. Oh do you
have resolution? I am? Yes. Are you a resolution person?
(15:18):
I am? Absolutely? I am. I'm very competitive, so I
usually achieved them, and I am so competitive that I
don't care that that sounds kind of braggy. It's true,
but most of my nerves kind of silly, Like one
year my resolution, I okay, So I make. However, many
the year ends in, so this year will be twenty
(15:43):
UM and so a lot of them are small. So
one year I learned how to do the quarter thing
on your knuckles where you can like move the corner.
So I I have a lot an assortment of very
random skills that I learned from New Year's resolutions? What
was yours from twenty nineteen? And did you accomplish those?
(16:03):
Not all of them, but just a few. I did
accomplish most of them. One of them, I do fall
into the trap of making the really vague ones that
you can't succeed. That is the biggest New Year's resolution trap.
And one of them was essentially get your destructive streak
out of your system and then new decade, take better
(16:29):
care of yourself. We'll see if that's true. I'm gonna try.
But I mean, you have gone through therapy. I knew,
have really made an effort in doing that, and that
was this year. That is a huge step. Yeah. Yeah,
And it's frustrating because as I said, and I think
in our Trauma Miny series, I really really went off
(16:49):
the rails when Trump was elected, Like I was pretty
healthy before then, and then it just blew up and
so it's hard because I know is going to be hard,
but I keep putting it off and he really, there's
no something will always come up, so right, I'm gonna
that's my goal. Okay, Yeah, I don't do resolutions. Um.
(17:10):
I am one of those. I'm a pessimist slash realist,
and I always, as a cynic, will always bet on
the worst case scenario and when i'm because it's like
I win win so I can say either I told
you so or all this pleasant. I got something out
of that because it's better than I thought kind of situation.
I am absolutely that person. Um. I also am absolutely
(17:32):
that person that I'm like, yeah, that's about right. Something's
gonna go wrong, some disaster of some sorts. I'm gonna
be the butt of that story somehow or some way. Um.
So therefore I don't do a lot of resolutions. I
think the biggest thing though, when we ended last year,
and we've talked about this many times because it's just
a great story. I think you and I had a
really great friendship beginning story. Um, but like sitting together
(17:56):
and planning out what it would look like to be
host together, not even hosts, but the fact that we
would do this series that was really really dear to
our hearts and very personal to both of us. And
then you know, my own goals, like I'm gonna make
it on the show, which by the way, I'm still
shocked that I'm on the show because I'm like, I'm
not that great and I'm definitely just coming on the
(18:17):
cotails of seemingly like yourself, as well as Caroline and Kristen,
who I who I hold as dear friends as well
as amazing mentors in this field, because this is really
odd to me, this as a person who has been
on feet on the ground, in the in the in
the crowd, hands dirty type of person with social work
(18:37):
coming into this seemingly It's like, what is this world?
And then also people seeing me sometimes it's really a
nerving because I love hiding. That's one of my favorite things,
being that, you know, person in the corner, saying a
snide comment every now and again, getting a chuckle and
then moving out of the way. That's one of my
favorite positions in life. But stuff like that has been
(18:58):
things that I'm like, Okay, I'm taking a risk, and
I feel like I'm taking a chance and hopefully giving
some outlook that is a little different from your usual
than whether that's coming from social work, as I know
everybody's tired of hearing that conversation, but coming from that
social work field, coming from being a woman of color,
(19:20):
coming from being adopted, you know, into this odd, odd
spectrum of being in the Southern culture as well, and
having an unsurety of what's going to happen next as
a female person of color in the South, you know,
And it's feeling like I'm underachieving because of my trauma
(19:42):
as a child, holding with all the attachment issues. But
here I am, and I'm like, okay, I'm coming to
the point that I'm adulting. It's kind of about time
to be honest, um, but acknowledging that I have strengths
with my weaknesses and using the So it's kind of
an interesting prospect. And what does look like for me
(20:05):
coming into my forties. I'm going to be coming, you know,
very well, a red one in I'll be forty, and
this is significant birth year for most people. And I'm
kind of trying to hold to the fact of what
have I contributed, What am I contributing? How have I helped?
Have I not helped, And how can I continue to
be a better, better source of whatever their advocate for
(20:30):
those who can't speak for themselves, are better advocate for
those who are not being heard like that is something
that's in my twenty twenties, and I guess being a
part of this podcast being a part of something that
is very very poigned of trying to talk about the
intersectionality of not only feminism but just humanism. I mean,
(20:51):
I guess that's the best way to put it. What
does that look like in especially when you feel opposed
and whether it's by other women, whether it's by politics,
whether it's famine members, whether it's your own head. Yeah,
it's too okay. You've got to get your pass through
these anxieties and insecurities to being stronger, not necessarily for yourself,
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but for others. And what does that look like? Again?
Everyone is going to say hindsight twenty you know it's true.
I'm not. You know, I'm you will I won't. A
lot of publications are preemptively calling the year of the Woman.
(21:38):
That's what I'm saying. I'm claiming it, We'll claim it.
And when we say one women, I'm saying with the
X women. You know, w O M x N. That's
how we're going to call it. Okay. So, for the
first time ever, the Center of American Women in Politics
collected a data set of female rebound candidates candidates who
decided to run again after a law US and as
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comes to a close. They've identified seventy nine. This is
the first time they've ever had those numbers. The mindset
previously was that in general, if a female candidate laws
in election, she went on to something else on like
male Canadas. And we also just haven't had as many
women running for office as we do now. In either way,
this is an encouraging development. Another exciting thing is that
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as we get more women in office, we're going to
start seeing them and act policies in this decade, and
one example of this is the policy responses to me too.
This movement led to an increase increase in sexual harassment
bills introduced in states across the United States, which many
of them will go into effect in or or soon
(22:46):
after that. So that's I mean, we can see it's happening.
I'm just saying people are becoming women x UM coming
on and understanding we got to go past our fears
and anxieties and securities because it's better for everyone has
a collective and yes, it's time, it's time and fun.
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Side note is when a lot of movies in the
future took place like Blade Runner still waiting from a
flying car. I'm waiting for the fashion decision where we
all wear like silver jumpsuits or the black leather. I want,
you know, just everybody. Besides where you're gonna wear a
(23:28):
metallic who knows why to be fair? I wait black
all the time. But nothing is faux leather, pleather, none
of that because I just don't I won't comfort. Everything
to me should be spandex. That's what is happening with
future people. Well, you know it's got to be comfortable
spandex because we can go superhero round on this. But
I don't know. Well, let's go Wally in which they're
(23:50):
all just in their floating chairs in the jumpsuits and
that's all very obviously either polyester of swords that wanted
to are comfortable. I wanted to be like the cotton
soft cotton. Well that's what I want. One of the
technology predictions I did find, as we said in our
Goodbye twenty tens episode. Fashion is a big thing, even
(24:13):
if we didn't talk about it that much. Is that
clothes there will be nano technology enclosed now and that
there will be other fashionable expand to include more than
what we think of it now. So it was it
going to be like a pant less but with pants
maybe those Speaking of technology, let's talk about some technology. Um,
(24:39):
it's so one of my favorite nerdy things. As Samantha knows,
I love science, I specifically love physics, but I was
really into, uh, this graph of showing how technologies just
we're at the very bottom of a huge exponential increase,
really not two dozen ten, because I feel like so
many we're jumped. Yeah, so we're like coming up now.
(25:03):
So imagine you're looking at a big kind of you.
We're at this kind of center top of the year.
We're about to go. Okay, okay, that makes it. Probably doesn't,
but no, I saw it because you can basically, technology
is going to improve at a really really rapid rate,
(25:27):
and it will continue to change how we interact or
don't interact. So in two thousand eighteen, Live Person asked
people to name a famous woman in tech, and only
four percent were able to While we're able to name
a famous men in tech, I'm guessing it's mainly Apple people.
A lot of people said Alexa or Syrias. Oh no.
(25:48):
But as more women take on leadership roles in the
tech world, there's hoping that that will change. I'm not
gonna lie how to moment where Alexa and Sirium like,
who are those actual voices? Because you know, like the
movie Her, Yeah, you start wondering, who are these actual people?
I knew tangentially not tangentially a friend of a friend, uh,
(26:09):
the voice of Marta, which is our public transport in Atlanta,
and it was weird to hear her speak, I would think,
especially like in England when they do mind the gap,
mind You're like cool. Artificial intelligence is going to play
a role in the twenties and beyond, and as we know,
coding can contain bias from the coders that can be
(26:31):
baked into the code of an AI, which would be huge.
Amazon did away with its AI recruitment tool after that
AI showed a preference for male candidates. So right now
only twelve of the AI research workforce is made up
of women, only twelve, and only of leadership positions are
held by people of color. So to combat this, there's
(26:52):
a push to diversify the AI world through programs and
nonprofits like AI for All and AI. This is a
huge conversation for a lot, a lot, a lot of reasons,
but it's gonna play a role in pretty much everything
we're going to talk about, and also just pretty much
everything movies, book, TV, music, maybe maybe even podcast. Wait,
(27:14):
am I gonna list my job before I even started? Maybe?
Oh damn well, Actually, and this is a whole other
nerdy topic I love dishing dishing on is empathy. So
jobs that require empathy and human human interaction, they don't
think the AI will be able to replace that. There's
been a conversation because that's one of the things I've
(27:34):
said about social work and any of the body who
does any of those types of level, whether they work
with children, women, homeless, whatever, that they're not going to
be able to do that. But there seems to be
a back and forth about whether or not people in
technology and who are really big into technology like to
argue with me about the benefits of sure these items.
I'm like, huh wow, yeah. And it is interesting too
(27:55):
because I know for actors like I read a lot
of headlines that said, um, James ten is going to
be the biggest star of the twenties because they're remaking
a movie with him in it. Really, yes, I don't know. Yeah,
so there is that aspect that they're already kind of
replacing actors, and that seems like a very human profession
(28:17):
that we're like requiring. So we we'll see. Yeah, and
AI is going to also play a huge role in
several things we're not going to talk about, but one
of the big ones is medicine, the medical field, education,
and self driving vehicles. I've been kind of work on
(28:37):
that run a minute. I think it will happen to stick.
I will make a prediction. You're gonna make that prediction.
That's right. You can come back at me and say
any hope of friends, then I hope we haven't become innoma.
And yeah, five G is gonna be a thing. That's
what almost every article said. Five G seems like that
(28:58):
seems fairly plausible. Yeah, yeah, totally. I actually thought pipe
was already a thing because my my Internet says I
can access pipe G. Really, I just assumed that I
was always behind. Well, we clearly are not. This is
not an Internet technology show. Nope. So speaking of AI
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as more and more tasks become automated, endless predict that
women will feel the first way, since so many of
our jobs are gender skewed into the late twenty twenties.
But in the long run, jobs long dominated by men
will likely be hit harder, which makes sense because when
we think about things like garbage trucks and all over that, Yeah,
(29:42):
so many accidents in so many ways of like safe
safety precautions. One better way to make it easier by
having things that won't get harmed or I can't sue
unless the machines become sentient. Oh lord, oh Laura speaking
a blade runner. The World Economic Forum estimates that by
(30:04):
over seventy million jobs will be replaced by automation, but
three million will be created as a lot of these
jobs will be in STEM where women are traditionally under represented.
This could impact women more, but this means it's the
time that we can change that. We know it's coming,
we can work to change that. It further emphasizes the
(30:24):
significance of getting girls and women into STEM fields and yeah,
we're gonna have to deal with a lot of the
things it's not like Onces come to a close all
those issues go away. We're gonna have to deal with
a lot of the things we talked about in that episode, um,
including deep fakes, which is a very I find very distressing,
(30:46):
so distressing. Yes, yes, so that's kind of a brief
overview on on some things that might happen in twenty
We do have some more pop culture things that might
happen in who You're so excited? I am. But first
we have a quick break forward from our sponsor and
(31:18):
we're back, Thank you sponsor. So again, the trends of
the twenty tins will continue into the twenties when it
comes to you a greater number of societal thrillers and
horror movies, and the increasing number of women and people
of color directing and starring in blockbusters. Oh, for example,
Kathy Anne's Birds of Prey starring Margot Robbie Nikki Carro
(31:41):
is helming Mulan, which I'm very excited about. The Black Widow,
directed by Kate Shortland and starring Scarlett Johansson and chloes
Out is slated to direct Marvels, The Eternals and all
four of the Marvel DC superhero movies coming out in
twenty are directed by women and to our Chinese American,
which I'm excited about. And yeah, now I guess with
Spider Man, the first one to helm the new generation
(32:03):
of Marvels since all of the so phase four. The
last movie of Phase three was Spider Man Far from Home.
So that was a part of that Phase three. Yes, okay, okay, okay,
because I thought maybe that was Phase four, but that's
opening up to Phase four. Yeah, okay, so in twenties
we're going to have Phase four, so that should be interesting. Yeah.
(32:24):
And I remember, as a lot of you probably do,
when the Marvel announced all of their projects and so
many of them involved women and people of color, and
it was a lot more diverse than they have been.
And there was of course the internet backlash of dudes
like no, not one Marvel or whatever. But and as
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we said, and um the previous episode, I know some
people might be tired of superhero movies, are wondering where
we're talking about them, but so many people see them
and it really does impact kind of a lot of
culture and are just where we are they honestly, by
being more diverse, it does help have these conversations and
(33:09):
move the needle right and as we talked about with
fan girls, look, if you bring in fan girls for
more and more fan girls, that's a lot of money
to be made. And we already said that. Yes, Black
Widow looked amazing. It does right now. Another one I'm
(33:32):
excited about but very curious Thor Love and Thunder, which
comes at one, featuring Natalie portmaneu Thor an Tessa Thompson
as Valco. I guess I don't know that Natalie Portman
is going to become Thora, but I'm pretty sure she
picked up the hammer. They kind of announced that, they
are not already announced it. Yeah, but it's I don't
I don't know if she's going to become Thor's significant role.
(33:54):
She's gonna be like the news Thor ladies or um
and take it with T love I love, of course.
So I'm very excited about that Black Panther two in
two blade Mrs Marvel. She hulk of interest to me,
but not particularly like woman based Falcon and Winter Soldier
coming out on Disney. Plush is on Disney Plus, yes,
(34:18):
Disney Plus. And Thrust, which I've been asking a lot
of people if they've heard that phrase, and no one
has just let you know. Well, it's definitely a thing.
And I think, again, this may be one of those
things where I was really confused about what decade I
came from. Significant decades and I'm that old. I'm like
those kiss and I can't imagine look on my mom's
(34:40):
face if I tried to explain this here. But I
think I might, I think I might. Please do I'll
tell you how it goes. So of twenties Sundance Film
Festival competition directors, forty six percent are female, which marks
the third year in a role in a role in
a row that numbers has gone up. Y are people
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of color and of the lgbt Q plus community. So
he was still not high enough, y'all. Still not high enough?
Definitely not, but it is encouraging that the numbers keep
going up. Absolutely And because I'm a huge, huge nerd,
and I've made it very clear on this show. Before
Spider Verse two comes out sometime in two, have you
(35:22):
already set time with Chuck to do movie Crush with
them for that one? I should on the calendar. I
was like, Chuck, can we do a part two on
the movie Crush where I continue to talk about Spider Verse.
Chuck is our celebrity, obviously, and so he loved you
on that, and they loved you on that. So that
means you're a celebrity, and I'm very impressed. It means
(35:42):
that I can make demands. You're right, I love it.
So when it comes to television, television is in such
a state of change right now. A lot of big
TV shows are on their way out, including Supernatural, leaving
a vacuum for studios to fill, and reports indicate that
multiple television networks are pushing for more female lead and
(36:04):
female directed shows, and more show centered on people of color,
which is also promising. The c W is actually, I
believe the one exception because their audience excuse so female.
They're trying to find the show which hey, because they
did have The Pretty Little Liars, which was a huge
hit for them, um as well as they put it
in a Supergirl uh, and they did Black Lightning, who
(36:27):
is now female. I think the stars now female, which
is awesome, and that my neighborhood did they think film
so many things that I just don't know what's happening.
It feels like they're not all that great, but whatever
passing judgment. Oh, actually we did do in my neighborhood.
The hate you give was filmed there. Cool. Yeah, I
was very excited about that. I was tried so hard
to find I was not cold enough. So you know,
(36:51):
um and I say, we talked about you, and I
talked a little bit about doll Face. Yeah. I haven't
seen it yet, but my friends recently watched it and
they are are they fans. So I have a hard
time with it because it is so on the nose.
I started watching it, I kind of had to back
off because I am a binger. So if I'm into something,
I commit and I'm going to finish it out. And
(37:13):
I think you were even impressed by the time frame
up supernatural, don't worry about it. But yeah, Dolphin's I
think had some really nice antics within the problematic antics
that wasn't seen to me can be overused, as we've
talked about before about women being friends and women being
(37:34):
advocates for each other. Um. And for those who don't
know the actual plo, I'm not given too much. But
the main character comes in after a breakup, a heart breakup,
realized that she has no friends female friends, and goes
back to her past to find her female friends and
then the relationship there is and trying to bond with women,
and I guess to me, it's kind of one of
those as you and I have talked about with the
(37:55):
Last Adventures movie, where they tried so hard to be like, yeah,
women are great. Look at this the second clip of
women being great, right, But that's kind of what it
felt like to me with Dolphins. And and again this
is completely my opinion because it's cute and all, but
then you still have the overachieving tiger mom Asian character
in there, and I understand it's kind of niche, over reaching,
(38:20):
sarcastic show. Um, what is that parody? It's kind of
a parody of that, but it just feels like it's
also feeding into this is who you are, this is
who they are, right. So you do have this like
Brenda Song who plays the overbearing, overachieving character, and then
you have Shane Mitchell who comes in as the party
girl who doesn't have enough whatever, but that she's easy going,
(38:45):
nicer than everyone type of mentality. So it's kind of like, Okay, cool, cool,
I'm really excited that this cast has brought this together.
And then you also have an imagining Catwoman character that's
a part of this. Yeah, so it's all very interesting take.
I'll have to check it out. It was on a
lot of people's list when I was like, what's gonna
happen to television, and a lot of people's at doll
(39:08):
face why, I don't know. I haven't seen it, so
I don't know. I will say it does have one
of my favorite actors because I watched Criminal Minds forever
because I am that person, Matthew grey Googler who was
the ultimate nerd hot guy, and he plays uh, a
main guy interest character. So it's interesting to have him
(39:29):
in there. Okay, well I'll I'll report back um when
I wherever I get around to it. That's really easy watch.
So one thing we do know is that traditional television
has changed will continue to change. Streaming, they believe as
we've reached the saturation point. There are too many services.
Most people are only willing to pay for two, and
(39:50):
now we have ten plus services. Now I'm trying to
think about many I pay for. You know, you gotta
have the one you share, so everybody contributes. So so
I don't actually share any of mine. Oh I do
I have a pot, so I did one, but then
as soon as my series at a Light went off,
discontinued it. You know what I'm talking about. Everybody did it.
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Everybody did it. I didn't do it, but my HBO
comes with my internet. Actually, so TV is going to
continue to change. What is that? What we can say
music a music experts predict that technology, as it advances
and becomes more readily available, music creation will become more democratized.
Already producers have gotten younger. An article I read give
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the example of Billie Eilish and her brother Phineas, who
produced When We All Fall Asleep? Where Do We Go?
In his apartment? With readily available music processing programs? And
on top of that, musicians being discovered on things like
Instagram or TikTok. But to be fair, they also were
being discovered in YouTube. On YouTube they were, but now
(40:58):
even more so. Understand tektok anyway, so we'll probably see
continue dominance a female artist like of course, I feel
like these people will never die because they're gonna be legends. Beyonce,
Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande, Lizza, Rihanna, Cardi B and Nicki Minaj.
I think they keep putting their names out there as Yeah,
I mean the kind of it's kind of the battle
of who's the queen, but it's it's the end of
(41:23):
mean girls. You put up the crown. Yeah, And that's
become more and more looked down on, which I love.
I love that instead of competing with each other, is
now a time to come together and it's each other.
It is the beautiful love each other. Another beautiful thing.
Moving on to other entertainment, The Last of Us two, which,
as everyone knows, probably the Last of Us is my
(41:44):
favorite video game. I had no idea what that was,
and it just said. It features Ellie, which is one
of the first really strong young video game characters, playable
video game characters that I really immediately was moved by,
very complex, very well thought out character. The sequel is
coming in February, and very very very very excited sometime
(42:06):
I'm seeing in February. Amount actually got delayed. Um the
Olympics again, there's gonna be more than one Olympics, but
I'm excited to see Smone Biles at Olympics to a right, yes,
yeah uh. And then the rise of e sports. This
was in a lot of people's this is what's gonna
happen in twenties. We talked about the sports very briefly
(42:28):
in our Women in Gaming episode and how very few
women are represented and what is actually a very lucrative industry.
So as e sports grow more popular, which they are,
I believe more people watched the World of Warcraft some
video game thing than the Super Bowl. Um, the last
the last super Bowl. Yeah, this is gonna be a
(42:50):
conversation that we need to have. We want to see
awesome women in the field of sports. Yes, so a
lot of things on her I is in and speaking
of a lot of things in the horizon. We have
to talk about politics. But first we're gonna pause for
one more quick break for word from our sponsor, and
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we're back, Thank you sponsor. Yes, we're back with politics.
We do have a very big presidential election coming up
here in the United States, and just so you are prepared,
we're going to be talking a lot about politics and
women in politics and those who identify as women or
non binary people coming in. Hopefully they'll be more and
more of those represented in politics. Is going to happen
(43:43):
because it is and we know it's a big as here.
It is. It is Yeah, as we record this, we
don't even have a Democratic candidate. And yeah, it is
weird to think there will be more elections. There will
be two more this decade. Yeah, not to mention all
of the mid term state and local elections. And we're
(44:04):
going to have to do something about that student debt.
And I say this personally as myself at this point,
I still have a little bit of student debt um
as of now in the US forty three million student
loan borrowers oh an estimated one point for trillion dollars.
And getting an education, let's be honest, should not be
something that financially follows you around the rest of your life.
But yet it still does. And we know that. And
(44:27):
I will say for my coming up, my brother, my
older brother, and my I don't I think my sister.
Neither one of them had what we call the Hope Scholarship,
which is in the state Georgia. And I know a
lot of places in the country have this type of
education where you're an A B student, you get fully funded.
You may not get paid for, you may not get
scholarships for housing or all of that, but if you're
(44:48):
in state tuition, it's covered but before then people had
to either you had to choose to go to school
or to get a job. And and as we know,
I think, as I've learned growing as an adult take
care of myself. I can't do both because I can't
pay and give that much time and try to get
money at the same time. And and those who can
who do it, it's hard, and you know what, hats
(45:10):
off to you. We see you, we know you're working hard.
Do it um. But yeah, that's one of the big
questions that's coming up, and one of the big debates
of where do we lie when it comes to education,
and why are we penalizing people for trying to further
themselves and should we be allowing this type of situation
to grow and this type of companies that are making
(45:31):
money off of it? Is that who is truly being
benefited for this kind of profit profiteering? I guess right.
So that's something we're gonna have to do with. Something
else we're gonna have to deal with is sustainability and
climate change. One big thing I saw is that China
has a plan to ban it cold by the end
of thewies and six of its main districts, and that
(45:54):
is a huge, huge thing. It would be interesting. Yeah,
they are leading the way when it comes to sustainability technology,
So something to keep an eye on. And one I
did want to mention when I was searching twenties women whatever,
you know, trying to find any kind of thing, Google
(46:17):
tried to auto correct it to um, we will have
a female president in the twenties, just not now, meaning
there will not be a female president. I got me thinking,
do you think we'll see a female president in twenties twenties?
I really hope. So yeah, I think the narrative has changed,
(46:39):
is changing better and better, and people are finally facing
the fact that women are put on a different standard
than men. And I think that's one of the big
things of like of having when Hillary Clinton came in
and her having her condientials, but then her having that
type of baggage that she brought in and her being
titles likable. Why didn't you use these people instead? And
(47:02):
now we have those people and they're still unlikable, and
it's it's we're turning. Some people are actually changing their
mind realizing oh, this really is a thing, because they
were the one that to say, well, if you had
this person and it's not working. And I think I'm hoping,
but that's happening, and I'm and all. When it comes
(47:24):
down to it, I want to see that progress. But
I want to see someone who's just qualified period. You know.
That's kind of where we are at this point in time,
and at this time it may not be who I
would want it to be, but I think at the
very least, I'm going to cross my fingers and and
(47:45):
and truly believe that people are going to see that
leadership is important, and who we choose is really important,
and who we choose to ignore is also really important.
That's my non answer that the traditional we've come out
are predictions are there will be five G and I said,
(48:05):
I'm sticking with it. Oh, automated cars, I think that
will be a thing. Um. Yeah. When we're talking about hopes,
and I was thinking about what I hope for. I
want to see more women in people of color making
badass content, right. I want to see them in leadership positions. Um.
I wanted to continue having these conversations around intersectionality, sexism, racism,
how we can uplift marginalized voices. I want to see
(48:28):
women's equality improve everywhere. Because again, the United States is
not the only thing in the world. And I read
a lot of articles that said, this is our final
decade in power. I mean, and that makes sense as
you see the protests happening for a lot of movements,
whether it's India in Brazil had really powerhouse uh protests
for people for women as well, and seeing that, Yeah,
(48:49):
that absolutely makes sense. Because our voices are getting louder
and louder and louder. And we have Greta I'm just
gonna call it Gretta. We had Greta coming in talking
about the fact that she's uh, you know, she's concerned.
And these group of kids are coming out strongly and
I love that. And it's an international group of kids
and that's beautiful and I think, yeah, absolutely, that makes
perfect sense. Do it. Yeah, inspirational inspiration. Um, I want
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to see white women recognize their privilege more. Yes, I
want us to talk about violence against trans people because
they're not having those conversations enough, the rolling back of
abortion bands. Yes, I want to see more women in
leadership positions all around the world. And I hope we
finally get serious about climate change and affordable healthcare. Passing
the e r A would be cool, the equals Equal
(49:37):
Rights Amendment and more podcasts for women. I just want
those really pantsless pants, the pantsless pants. Uh. I will
put in another another very vague prediction that technology is
going to drastically change. I believe that is true. I
will stand behind that because the changes in my lifetime
(50:00):
as an adult has been shocking. The things that I
and again some of you are not going to realize
this for another years and that's fine, but coming to
the point of where I am today too. When I
left college thinking I know the world, the mass changes
in technology alone is shocking and looking back on what
(50:24):
it was then and to the things that I can't
work today because I don't understand it. I've become my
mother just like I just have to acknowledge. Yeah, it's
going to be crazy the things that we do, how
easy things are going to be accessible and at the
same time, how detrimental those accessible things can be for people. Um.
It's kind of like when I talked to my kids
(50:45):
that I work with and I'm like, hey, if you
put it out, there is out there forever, nothing is
private and having to from you know, years ago that
wasn't a thing to today, it's like what and kids
not acknowledging an under standing that what that means. That
was something else I read in a lot of these
pieces about the twenties is that privacy is going to
(51:06):
become a quaint thing of the past. It's almost going
to be like, oh, yeah, is that Black Marror episode
the one of two that I watched? There you go
impart into this conversation. Yeah, And there's also a lot
of interesting technology around speaking of Black Mirror, of being
able to digitize yourself after you die that might happen,
(51:26):
and then being able to interact with using your brain,
just interact with technology that chip in the brain to
turn things on the whole chip in the brain. As
they say, um, who says every day Samantha, you never
asked that you do? Uh And Yeah. For the show,
(51:49):
we're hoping to do more collaborations, more traveling, finally get
the book club going. And we just want to say,
as we close out this episode, we're so so thankful
to have you listeners in our community, constantly making us better,
and we hope that you had a safe, happy holiday
and that you have a safe, happy decade. Yes, thank
you so much for being accepting and being patient as
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we grow together and learned together, which is what I love.
And please know that one of our goals is to
continue to learn and being taught new things. So continue
to tell us when things are awry, or continue to
tell us what's important to you, and continue to reach
out to us, because we hear you, we see you,
we love you, we do and there are many ways
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