October 1, 2021 • 32 mins
Don't say her name five times while looking in a mirror. Beware of the clicking of a high heel approaching. Anney and Samantha unearth some terrifying women of urban legends and discuss why these stories are so powerful.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane
Never told you production of I Heart Radio. Okay, Annie,
it is a season we are hitting towards the end
of September today recording at the end of September. It's
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gonna be released in October. And we've been planning this
episode for a minute anticipation for the spooky seasons, because
we love the spooky season. And yeah, I need to
know what is the most recent Halloween movie or scary
movie you watched? So I've already started my my repertoire.
(00:46):
I have a big Halloween catalog that I have to
work through. So last night I did I feel like
we've talked about this all the time. It sounds like
we watched it NonStop. But I watched The Conjuring and
the Counturing too, I did recently before that, I watched
Host the Zoom based one and then Fairene Activity one
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and too Uh, and I watched The New Candy Man.
But yeah, I feel like I'm always embarrassed because those
are like ones I've talked about before, and I'm always
trying to think of, like, what's a new one I
could turn people onto. I haven't gotten to that point
yet because I am trying to save, like I'm ready
for October. I'm like going through some of the ones.
I've seen a lot already so I can just like, Okay,
I've done it, but I haven't watched I don't think
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i've watched anything new recently. What about you. I've been
revisiting the classics. Yeah, I did watch Malignant. We talked
about that, man, we talked about that. We won't give
any spoilers on any of those. I watched The Ruins
for the first time. That was a new one for me,
and then I just rewatched Halloween because I was like,
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Halloween coming the original? Do you know Jamie Lee curt
Is one of her first movies. Watched that, Yeah, and
I was like, huh, you know and carry You have
those girls, the same type of girls in each of
these movies, and I really forget how they sound very
similar to one another. I had that moment of like,
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like the giggling and the high pitched voices, which is
not a bad thing, but it's just interesting how they
played on this really hard in all those movies, in
those eras, so I thought that was interesting. I have
gotten a copy of the Silent Hill brother. I have
gotten copy of Silent Hill, so I am getting revved
up to go to that. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm already
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like it's gonna be interesting. So yes, I'm getting ready
for that because I've been trying to go through all
of them. So I'm very picky and that I don't
want it to be too gruesome. I'm not huge, like
murder of movies doesn't bother me necessarily, like the slasher films,
but it would just over the top, like just being
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gross and torture films. I don't love that, so that
is something I don't do. But because we love the
horror season, we're going to jump right into it with
some delightful stories of ghosts, goblins, which is God's folklore,
and some good haunts from around the world. Yes, and
this was your idea, and I think you had it
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in like August. I was really ready for the season.
She was very excited about it, like eight August. So
this is a long time coming, and it was a
really fun one. It was a fun one to research.
There are, like I guess content warning more than trigger warning.
There are some dark and gruesome themes in here, but
we're not gonna get. I mean, it's urban legends essentially
what we're talking about, not the movie though, which I
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still haven't seen. UM. And I will say coming through
these because we have like a big list we were
working off of, and I kind of bread over summaries
of every one of them. And there were some common
themes like immediately that popped out to me, like women
who can shape shift into animals that was a big one.
Are are who are in some way part animal, can
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control the weather and often water. Lots of themes around
child birth, child death, motherhood, and sexuality that probably surprises nobody. UM.
Lots of playing on societal fears, which we've talked about.
It's kind of a big thing in horror anyway. UM.
A lot of morality tales stories to keep the use
in line, like don't do something bad at school, kids,
or this ghost will come get you. Things that have
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perfect grades apparently is one of the things, right, Yeah,
which is interesting And and if you if this is
like really your jam, you can check out past episodes
we've done on female monsters. We've done Banshees and Suck
You by. UM. I think even the Revenge Women Revenge
episodes could kind of fit in if you're like really
into it, and why women like monsters? Of yes, why
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women like monsters. I think we've even done one past
hosted one on like vampires specifically serial killers. We've done
Women Show Killers and Women who Love serial Killers and
then Black Widow serial Killers. But all of that being said,
just like with a lot of those episodes, we tried
to hunt down the best sources. But these are urban legends,
Like a lot of it depends on you know, oral
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retellings are just things like you can't quite confirm because
it's just the story that people pass around. A lot
of it is hearsay um, and that's where some of
the fun of it is. But just caveat on there
um And I think, like, well, probably most of the
time it's very clear. But for pretty much a majority
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of the urban legends that like story that you tell,
there's no proof of us, Like, it's just the story
people tell over and over again until you're convinced that
it did happen. But as a reminder, and each culture
is different and there's typically more than one variations of
these guys, we just chose like specific areas to talk
about that type or that specific folklore. So yeah, and
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I think one of the more famous we will talk
about it's a little bit about Bloody Mary. Essentially, there's
a different forms of that all over the world, so
just that as a reminder. So what you heard is
obviously going to be different from what they heard, the
type of thing, and yeah, most of them are not
necessarily based on any truth, just kind of again, some
kind of cautionary tale. So the information we get take
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it with a grain of salt. But it was fun. Nonetheless,
it was yes, because there's so many good stories and
legends around the world. This will be a two parter,
so any and I decided to go through this massive
and I'm saying, like a massive list of different types
of ghosts or haunts or folklore. Um, and we took
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and picked out some of our favorites to talk about.
So yeah, here's some of our favorites. Let's let's start.
And I'm gonna start this one just because I was like, oh, yeah,
I've seen this, which is the Korean virgin ghost. Y'all. Man,
I think it's only fitting that we start with the
cautionary tale because this is about the poor young virgin.
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And yes, pretty much we're talking about the girls, although
there is a version of the male virgin and what
they have to do for them, But I don't see
them haunting people from what I get. I know there
has been some cultures that talk about the fact that
they will curse the family, so like it's not about
necessarily the part the ghost or the coming back of
but that in curses the entire family. YadA, YadA, YadA,
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that's whole YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA whatever. And yes, these
are the young women who died with no purpose nor
any meaning because they died tragedy of tragedies as single virgins.
Oh no. Um. So, according to old folklore and legends
within the Korean culture, the many ghosts that exist in
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these areas are typically made up of young, unfulfilled women
because they were not able to fulfill their responsibilities as
a mother or a wife and so have resentment that
makes them unable to move on into the peaceful afterlife.
Uh yeah, so it's very very important to be married apparently,
and again this is very old legend, more so than
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currently we know. Things have changed, but this still exists
in that they think, and I believe they're called guscians,
which are the ghosts in Korean, So just so you know,
and if I mispronounced that, I'm trying, y'all. I'm trying
to be real Korean. It's hard. And if they appear
to you, they are often seen in white handbocks, which
is Korean traditional apparel called sobuck, which is specific to
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morning attire. And of course their hair is down because
they have to untie their hair as a sign that
they were indeed never married, so the married women would
have their hair tied up right. And sometimes when they appear,
they may be shedding tears of blood or covered in blood,
so I don't know, I think that might be for
the extra spa because none of these tales talk about
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them dying tragically as in like murdered or anything, just
dying without purpose essentially. And often times when these ghosts appear,
they may attach themselves onto young girls, which made those
girls become resentful and unable to get married as well,
in which turns into more sad ghosts, right, because that's
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how it goes. And of course, how does one keep
from being haunted by a bitter, unfulfilled virgin ghosts? Well,
according to the Wikipedia part of how to stop this ghost.
All tra dishes may include taking quote dolls emphasizing the
male genitalia which were made of straw and put it
in the coffin, or dolls dressed in men's clothing and
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then bury upside down, so you turned them so that
they really can't come out. Uh. Then thorns were placed
around the coffin and buried. The reason for putting a
male doll emphasizing the genitals in a coffin or wearing
men's clothes is to comfort them for making contact with
men even after they die, and burying the coffin's upside
down is to block the virgin ghost from coming out. Thoroughly,
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this is thoroughly at the end. I don't know why
this is the quote from that um so they have
a big plans on how you do this. And of
course yes, this is also one of those cautionary tales.
This is what happens to unlucky women who can't give
the husbands. And you don't want to become this girl,
so you need to go find your man so you
love your life will be fulfilled. Of course, I don't
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think anyone cleans to that. And apparently there's towns and
areas where they have ghost festivals are interesting in Korea
and you can visit these areas as well. And some
of these like rituals, I think they do in order
to keep the ghosts from coming to them or at them.
So there you go, there you go. That's interesting. I
mean again, yeah, that those are fears we've talked about of,
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like you know, the single lady ending up alone, the spinster,
how dreadful, how sad. Yeah, and I also find it
interesting like the male doll, the male genitalia, like very
heteronormative urban legends. Oh. Absolutely, again you're also supposed to
have children. Uh, yes, it was a great fear. Yes,
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all right. Let's talk about the legend of Madame koit Koi,
the story of the ghost who haunts boarding schools that
is popular in Nigeria, South Africa and Ghana that originated
in the nineties. Okay, so there are yes, Like you said, Samantha,
there are a few stories about Madame koit Koi. One
of the most popular ones goes that Madame koit koy
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was a beautiful teacher at a secondary boarding school often
told as an all girls boarding school, specifically, her shoes
of choice were these red heels that would make a
sound like ki as she walked. Madame koit Koy was
a cruel teacher, often abusing students for no reason. As
the story goes, the students despised her. Eventually, she was
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fired after she slapped a female student in damaged her ear.
After this, Madam coy Coy left in a fury and
on her way home, died in an accident, but not
before she promised to get revenge on her ex students.
It didn't take long at all before students reported hearing
the coy of her heels roaming the halls and toilets
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at night, and another version of the tale her her
own students bound and gagged her as she was leaving
one day and beat her to death. The students involved
were picked off one by one until only one remained,
who swore he could hear the clicking of her heels.
No one believed him, and he was found dead soon after.
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The school closed and the other students transferred, spreading the
legend with them. And yes, it probably goes without saying,
but again this has never been verified with truth and
almost certainly is firmly an urban legend, and nothing more,
but still the urban legend Persists is very popular. Another version,
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students decided to play a prank on Madam koit Koy
and locked her in a cupboard, one red heel falling
off as she was dragged into this cupboard, where she
was forgotten about and died. She was pregnant at the time,
and as she thought of her child dying, she swore
to get revenge on all the students who locked her
in the cupboard. They would know what it was like
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to be locked in the dark, dying and screaming with
no one to hear you. In this version, you only
hear the clicking of one high heel. When you hear her.
You're supposed to close your eyes until the sound passes,
or you will end up in the cupboard next to her,
locked in clawing at the door with no one to
hear you. Many similar stories do exist, sometimes with different
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names Madam Oke and Ghana, Miss Cone Coco in Tanzania,
Pinky Pinky and South Africa, but all they all kind
of involve a vengeful teacher that serves to keep students
in mind from going out past curfew again. These kind
of like morality tales and Ghana One story goes that
she was a teacher at a school with some troublesome students.
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One day, she took off one of her heels while
running after a student, waving them in the air. She
chased him across the street. She didn't see the car coming,
and it rammed into her, killing her instantly, sending the
red heel flying. The ghost takes the form of a
single red shoe, screaming where is my shoe? To what
you're supposed to respond, Madam hoide and she'll leave you alone.
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These are the kind of things I would do, even
if I didn't really believe it, I would still do
it because I don't want to take the risk exactly.
I mean, we take these cautionary tales and we're like, okay,
so what is the solution. Is there a solution? Okay,
now we know I want to fight you exactly, made
to be prepared. And meanwhile, South Africa's version Pinky Pinky
targets girls specifically, and specifically on top of that, girls
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wearing pink underwears threatening to rape them. The creature, often impartment,
part woman, part animal, is invisible to boys. Only girls
can see her. People have actually looked into the origins
of this one and why impacts only girls, and they
suspect us to do with the disappearance of girls in
the area and the dangerous girl's face, and or that
the myths was created to keep girls inside and off
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the streets. So yeah, that's madam koit koy um. If
any listeners, no any versions of any of these stories
we're talking about, please right in. Yes, I would love
But okay, so now since we've heard man, we've got
through different countries already. I love it, and we're gonna
cop over to the wonderful Highlands and we're looking at
the legend of a very vampire succubus. I'm like, there
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are so many things in this and what a wonderful combo.
And to be honest, after reading some of these, I'm like,
if I were to be a scary like legend or folklore,
but I turned into one of these miraculously, this is
the one that I choose. It is pretty fantastic. I'm like, okay, okay,
I can do this, So let's get into this terrifyingly
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wonderful creature. The bobb and Sea or the fairy woman
in Scottish Gaelic also known as the Bob and she
or the white woman of the Highlands I guess. So
according to some is that she is the woman in
white for this and by the way, we're gonna talk
a little more about other women in white in other cultures.
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But also she is seen in green and sometimes in
these tales, so it kind of goes different variations apparently.
But this is a type of white woman who kind
of you know, praise on men essentially, but for these
beautiful creatures. They are described, yes, as beautiful enchantresses that
typically prey on hunters who either stray from the path
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after dark or make the unfortunate wish of a female
companionship in the woods after dark. Yeah, huge mistake, dude,
don't do this. And due to the blood often on
the hunters after a kill, that attracts these specific fairy
shubas vampires so many things. But unlike vampires, uh, though
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they do feed off the blood of the individual, they
don't bite into them. They actually have sharp talents that
come out that they rip into them essentially and drink
and feed from them in that way. And you will
often not see this until they are too close to you. Um.
Apparently in some of the legends. They also have horse
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hoofs or like some type of hoofs as feet, but
as often covered up by the dress, so you never
see it until it's too late obviously. And they according
to some other legends, they do feed off some women,
but it's very very rare. And when they do this
to the women, it actually turns the women into yes,
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bob and see, so they create more if having a women. Um.
And of course they don't just attack, oh no, they
are true to interesses. And they entice the men by
how getting them to dance with them and putting them
under a sort of trance. So they have a power.
Like they're very good influencing men and enticing and seducing men.
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And yeah, like I said, they have a lot of powers,
including as you talked about, shape shifting. Yes, they can
turn into different shapes and more often than not likely
to shift into wolves, which is even better. I'm like, yeah,
there we are, um. And although according to legend, it
does awaken them to be in this type of form
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because they would rather be fairies. Apparently you can do
trances and all of that wobbing a fairy only, but
it helps them to get away an attack and change
shapes obviously. And yet and according to some of the legends,
they like to travel impacts. They sleep underground, uh in
a coffin during the day, and some of them don't
even come out except for once a year and can
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only be found in the woods. And the way to
repel them. Apparently they don't like iron, and I've learned
this from supernatural people. Apparently supernatural creatures don't like either
iron or silver. I need to find both of those. Salt.
Salt is the thing, but I haven't seen that mentioned
in any of these yet. Sorry, sorry, supernatural It's true,
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it's true. So there. Yeah, I found these creatures really
fascinating and the artwork form are really beautiful. It's kind
of one of those like, yeah, there it is. But yeah,
so this is the very succubus vampire for y'all to
know if you go ever into Scotland hunting alone. Oh yeah,
for sure. I love it. I love it. I'm glad
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to know that you have a preferred fairy tale monster
you'd like to turn into. I mean, like, I feel like,
if I had to choose one, that would be the one.
I think. It's pretty good. It's pretty solid. Now, let's
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hop over to another part of world and discuss law
your Rhona, the weeping woman that often haunts rivers at night,
who has scared generations and has featured in books, TV shows,
and multiple movies. Um and yes, this is also a
kind of another take on the Woman in White, which
we have. Yeah, like you said, quite a few in here.
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The story of law Eurona originated hundreds of years ago
somewhere in Latin America or Mexico, where that story is
still popularly told. Just as everything else we've discussed, there
are a lot of versions of this legend. At its
cord involves a mother who killed or are lost I
guess her children, but usually killed usually by drowning, and
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after that was filled with heartbreak and regret over it,
drowning herself in grief literally not like just crying, but
like actually drowning herself or sometimes simply dying of grief.
The reason she did this varies. Killed her children from
catching her rich husband cheating and killing their children in
a fit of ridge, discovering her children are illegitimate and
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killing them to prevent the wife from taking them away,
or even killing them as a way to be with
a man she loves, but he rejects her, so she
takes her own life. After that, because of what she did,
she has trapped in purgatory until she finds her children.
A lot of the stories say she goes to the
gates of heaven and they're like, can't come in without
the souls of your children. Sorry, So she has to
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go look around for the souls of her children, and
she haunts the earth searching for them, wailing, where are
my children? Dressed in a long white burial gown these days?
In popular legend, she kidnaps children who resemble her own
are those who disobey their parents, or I've personally heard
children whose parents she thinks don't deserve them right um,
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which is an interesting take on on that idea. In
some versions, she attacks cheating men are lures drunk men
into the water. Her whale is sometimes believed to be
a foreteller of do kind of like a banshee. And
her story really has captivated and terrified generations. You can
find articles of people writing like I heard this word
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and as a kid, and I'm still I'm afraid of it,
like just really sticking with people. Some trace her story
back to the astect goddess Kataque and I'm sorry if
I'm butschering that who legend has it? This goddess was
heard weeping before the Spanish conquest, so like crying for
her children. Others claim she is actually law your own
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is actually her Nan Cortes's interpreter and lover, Lama lynch
A Um. When the asset capital fell, Cortes returned to
his first wife, abandoning Lama lynch A and the son
they had together. Interestingly, she's also considered the mother of
modern Mexico, while also a traitor for aiding Spanish. Yeah. Yeah.
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Some researchers have suggested this story and others like it
reflect patriarchal standards of blaming little woman and here the
mother and the trope of the evil failed mother Um
that it's a way to reinforce expectations around being this
perfect mother. We've talked about that a lot too. They
point out that she shares a lot of characteristics with
other urban legends and monsters Um, some that we're going
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to talk about later. But yeah, that was really interesting
because it's been like legit research papers written on her
and what she represents in particularly what she represents in
Mexico with the history aspects, So it's a lot going
on there, for sure. Did you watch the movie. I've
seen both movies because, as is we were talking about
this other night, as it's the case a lot of times,
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two movies the same thing kind of come out around
the similar time. So I've seen kind of the more
classic mainstream American horror movie, and then I saw one
that was much more like I believe it's a Spanish
it's a foreign language film, and it was much more
about like politics and a dictator and possible dementia and
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or Alzheimer's like is this is he hallucinating or is
she real? All? Dang, I need to go find that one,
because yeah, I like the movie a lot because it
was fun and then learning that tale. But yeah, there's
definitely a different variation again of the woman in white
who wants to punish some men sometimes my found Yeah,
that does seem to be a lot of the theme
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about punishing men, the punishing women and punishing because there's
just a lot of pun punishing, punish, punishing. So now
we're going back up the East, uh, and we're talking
about the legendary hannuckle Son, which is the young girl
who haunts the girls bathroom at the school, and of
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course brought memories of Harry Potter as Yeah, morning, Myrtle
who likes to stay in the girl's bathroom and she's
very helpful. Of course, we don't have any uh Harry
Potter Wizarding World in han knuckle Sons, uh till, but yes,
it did bring me to that. But she, of course
was before Harry Potter do. And how did the a
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young girl who they see become a ghost? Well, according
to different legends, we have a version which talks about
the young girl harn uco Son, being killed while playing
hide and seek um and it was at this time
that the air raid happened in Japan during World War two,
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and she was caught in that blast and tragically killed
at that point and then came back as a ghost.
Then there's another version which is kind of like how
we were talking about with Laurona, and a lot of
other tales about her actually being murdered tragically by either
a parent or sometimes tell us talk about a stranger
who murders her. And then there is the possibility that
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she was abused and sad and so she died by suicide.
So I think you tell the tale based on which
one scares you the most, and you go into depth.
I think the most tragic is the World War two thing.
I'm like, oh, that makes me really sad because it
could be too real. It happened and all that. And
of course when the best parts of this tale much
like Candy Man, because we were talking about the new
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release of Candy Man and how it scared the hell
out of me when it was first released when I
was younger and I watched the younger I still have
nightmares about that one. And then of course it's a
type of the bloody merry tale, but that you can
actually summon a knack Son if you want to. Don't
do it. I feel like that's just always just don't
do it. I don't know why you would do it. Don't.
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I'm about to give you instructions on how to do this,
but don't there. And how does one summon such a
sad and typically evil spirit. Well, you enter the girl's
bathroom at a school, Best on the third floor. Apparently
the number three is very very key here. Best on
the third floor, go to the third stall of the bathroom,
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and you knock three times and ask nacko, son, are
you there? I'm not doing this, and then she responds
with yes, I am here, or something along those lines,
with a very eerie voice. Apparently, then you may see
a ghostly hand or a bloody hand appear under the stall,
coming towards you. And that's only if you're lucky, that's
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all you see. But she also may appear, uh, and
you will see her apparently on a red scart. Red
is a big theme here, and maybe sometimes with burn marks.
They say that, and she will pull you through the
toilet and to hell. So she's gonna drag you into
hell through the toilet. There's so many things to that.
That's just nightmarish. I think I once talking about like
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a squatty potty and all of that, and she'll just
come and grab you from underneath. That doesn't left four
things that I'm afraid it's gonna crawl up from a
squatty potty in general, So I'm like, oh my god.
Or she may have her three headed lizard come and
devour you. So that is, and you may not see
her at all. All you see when you open the
door is a three headed lizard that is used to
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kill you and eat you. And there are a few
that believe it is possible that you will not be
eaten or you will not be dragged to hell if
you present her with your perfect grades showing that you
are a great student, I guess, or some versions say
a perfect exam score, so maybe you have a test
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on hand. So don't go into the bathroom unless you
have a perfect score. Doing this okay, which again makes
it seem like this is an academic influenced cautionary tale
of like, you better have good grades or her knuckles
son is gonna come and get you if you're exactly
But either way, don't do it. Don't don't summon evil things.
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That's not to tempt them. That's my advice. And she
has made her rounds and uh death, different enemies and
mangas and movies as well. Yeah. I just pulled up
a trailer for one very fun um so yeah, she
is definitely famous. Don't tempt her, Okay, I love it.
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I just have a discussion about this other day before
we watch Candy Man. I was like, it's not I
don't believe it. I'm just not gonna do it. To
tempt this we I did do Bloody Mary, and I
think we're going to talk about that later. But I
did go down a rabbit hole after this year's years
years ago, after the whole Allies the Lamp thing, which
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I'm not going to go into but some of you
probably know what I'm talking about, and did. One of
the theories for the whole thing was there's this thing
called the elevator game, which is kind of like this,
like you get to the fifth floor and then you
press all these buttons and then you don't turn around,
and then you'll never know if your world is real
or not. For some reason, it really freaked me out,
and then I started instead of stopping there, I was
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looking at all these other games you can do to
like summon things, right, boards, let's stay away from those.
I went through big REGI board period and then it
scared me and I've not used it since. I'm just saying,
don't tempt them. Wait, so we were talking about the games.
Did you do any of those games? Can you tell?
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Like as a kid, I did Bloody Marry. I definitely
tried Bloody Mary several times. Did you do the light
as a feather stuff as a board? One? I never
did that, did you. Yeah, it worked too. It was freaky.
I was like, oh my god, we all ran. I mean,
of course there was ten of us with two fingers up,
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so I feel like, plausibly we could do this. But
it felt really weird. Yeah, I mean it does. It
looks weird to me, and I find it like it
makes sense. I've read the articles about why it works,
and I believe them, but it just looks weird, right,
And as children, when you hear these things and it works, man,
yeah I did that. Um, it's like you crack an egg.
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It's not a real egg, but it's like a thing
that you do some of your back crack the egg
and then you see and it's supposed to foretell how
you die and mind us like apparently from a great height.
I'm like, I think that's just because you pushed me.
Whoa there, I never heard that part. I knew the
cracking egg and do this. That was just the sensation
that I didn't know. You're supposed to see your death. Yeah,
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they shove you and you're supposed to see you what.
Hopefully this is real. They crack an egg, they do
a knife in your back, not a real knife, again
people who have no idea what we're talking about or
like what it was just some like game that you played.
Somebody was giving you these sensations and feelings on your
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back and they would say this like creepy poem while
they did it. When I played it, they would shove
you at the end, and you were supposed to just
see like a color and the color you could interpret
to mean what your death would be. And I saw
something that either meant like water or a fall from
a great height. But again I think because you shoved me,
that's probably why that makes sense. Okay, anyways, moving on,
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but yeah, moving on. Yes, well we'll have more discussion
like this in part two. But in the meantime, listeners,
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Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane
Never told you production of I Heart Radio. Okay, Annie,
it is a season we are hitting towards the end
of September today recording at the end of September. It's
(00:25):
gonna be released in October. And we've been planning this
episode for a minute anticipation for the spooky seasons, because
we love the spooky season. And yeah, I need to
know what is the most recent Halloween movie or scary
movie you watched? So I've already started my my repertoire.
(00:46):
I have a big Halloween catalog that I have to
work through. So last night I did I feel like
we've talked about this all the time. It sounds like
we watched it NonStop. But I watched The Conjuring and
the Counturing too, I did recently before that, I watched
Host the Zoom based one and then Fairene Activity one
(01:08):
and too Uh, and I watched The New Candy Man.
But yeah, I feel like I'm always embarrassed because those
are like ones I've talked about before, and I'm always
trying to think of, like, what's a new one I
could turn people onto. I haven't gotten to that point
yet because I am trying to save, like I'm ready
for October. I'm like going through some of the ones.
I've seen a lot already so I can just like, Okay,
I've done it, but I haven't watched I don't think
(01:32):
i've watched anything new recently. What about you. I've been
revisiting the classics. Yeah, I did watch Malignant. We talked
about that, man, we talked about that. We won't give
any spoilers on any of those. I watched The Ruins
for the first time. That was a new one for me,
and then I just rewatched Halloween because I was like,
(01:56):
Halloween coming the original? Do you know Jamie Lee curt
Is one of her first movies. Watched that, Yeah, and
I was like, huh, you know and carry You have
those girls, the same type of girls in each of
these movies, and I really forget how they sound very
similar to one another. I had that moment of like,
(02:16):
like the giggling and the high pitched voices, which is
not a bad thing, but it's just interesting how they
played on this really hard in all those movies, in
those eras, so I thought that was interesting. I have
gotten a copy of the Silent Hill brother. I have
gotten copy of Silent Hill, so I am getting revved
up to go to that. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm already
(02:41):
like it's gonna be interesting. So yes, I'm getting ready
for that because I've been trying to go through all
of them. So I'm very picky and that I don't
want it to be too gruesome. I'm not huge, like
murder of movies doesn't bother me necessarily, like the slasher films,
but it would just over the top, like just being
(03:01):
gross and torture films. I don't love that, so that
is something I don't do. But because we love the
horror season, we're going to jump right into it with
some delightful stories of ghosts, goblins, which is God's folklore,
and some good haunts from around the world. Yes, and
this was your idea, and I think you had it
(03:22):
in like August. I was really ready for the season.
She was very excited about it, like eight August. So
this is a long time coming, and it was a
really fun one. It was a fun one to research.
There are, like I guess content warning more than trigger warning.
There are some dark and gruesome themes in here, but
we're not gonna get. I mean, it's urban legends essentially
what we're talking about, not the movie though, which I
(03:43):
still haven't seen. UM. And I will say coming through
these because we have like a big list we were
working off of, and I kind of bread over summaries
of every one of them. And there were some common
themes like immediately that popped out to me, like women
who can shape shift into animals that was a big one.
Are are who are in some way part animal, can
(04:04):
control the weather and often water. Lots of themes around
child birth, child death, motherhood, and sexuality that probably surprises nobody. UM.
Lots of playing on societal fears, which we've talked about.
It's kind of a big thing in horror anyway. UM.
A lot of morality tales stories to keep the use
in line, like don't do something bad at school, kids,
or this ghost will come get you. Things that have
(04:25):
perfect grades apparently is one of the things, right, Yeah,
which is interesting And and if you if this is
like really your jam, you can check out past episodes
we've done on female monsters. We've done Banshees and Suck
You by. UM. I think even the Revenge Women Revenge
episodes could kind of fit in if you're like really
into it, and why women like monsters? Of yes, why
(04:48):
women like monsters. I think we've even done one past
hosted one on like vampires specifically serial killers. We've done
Women Show Killers and Women who Love serial Killers and
then Black Widow serial Killers. But all of that being said,
just like with a lot of those episodes, we tried
to hunt down the best sources. But these are urban legends,
Like a lot of it depends on you know, oral
(05:11):
retellings are just things like you can't quite confirm because
it's just the story that people pass around. A lot
of it is hearsay um, and that's where some of
the fun of it is. But just caveat on there
um And I think, like, well, probably most of the
time it's very clear. But for pretty much a majority
(05:31):
of the urban legends that like story that you tell,
there's no proof of us, Like, it's just the story
people tell over and over again until you're convinced that
it did happen. But as a reminder, and each culture
is different and there's typically more than one variations of
these guys, we just chose like specific areas to talk
about that type or that specific folklore. So yeah, and
(05:54):
I think one of the more famous we will talk
about it's a little bit about Bloody Mary. Essentially, there's
a different forms of that all over the world, so
just that as a reminder. So what you heard is
obviously going to be different from what they heard, the
type of thing, and yeah, most of them are not
necessarily based on any truth, just kind of again, some
kind of cautionary tale. So the information we get take
(06:17):
it with a grain of salt. But it was fun. Nonetheless,
it was yes, because there's so many good stories and
legends around the world. This will be a two parter,
so any and I decided to go through this massive
and I'm saying, like a massive list of different types
of ghosts or haunts or folklore. Um, and we took
(06:39):
and picked out some of our favorites to talk about.
So yeah, here's some of our favorites. Let's let's start.
And I'm gonna start this one just because I was like, oh, yeah,
I've seen this, which is the Korean virgin ghost. Y'all. Man,
I think it's only fitting that we start with the
cautionary tale because this is about the poor young virgin.
(07:00):
And yes, pretty much we're talking about the girls, although
there is a version of the male virgin and what
they have to do for them, But I don't see
them haunting people from what I get. I know there
has been some cultures that talk about the fact that
they will curse the family, so like it's not about
necessarily the part the ghost or the coming back of
but that in curses the entire family. YadA, YadA, YadA,
(07:22):
that's whole YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA whatever. And yes, these
are the young women who died with no purpose nor
any meaning because they died tragedy of tragedies as single virgins.
Oh no. Um. So, according to old folklore and legends
within the Korean culture, the many ghosts that exist in
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these areas are typically made up of young, unfulfilled women
because they were not able to fulfill their responsibilities as
a mother or a wife and so have resentment that
makes them unable to move on into the peaceful afterlife.
Uh yeah, so it's very very important to be married apparently,
and again this is very old legend, more so than
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currently we know. Things have changed, but this still exists
in that they think, and I believe they're called guscians,
which are the ghosts in Korean, So just so you know,
and if I mispronounced that, I'm trying, y'all. I'm trying
to be real Korean. It's hard. And if they appear
to you, they are often seen in white handbocks, which
is Korean traditional apparel called sobuck, which is specific to
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morning attire. And of course their hair is down because
they have to untie their hair as a sign that
they were indeed never married, so the married women would
have their hair tied up right. And sometimes when they appear,
they may be shedding tears of blood or covered in blood,
so I don't know, I think that might be for
the extra spa because none of these tales talk about
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them dying tragically as in like murdered or anything, just
dying without purpose essentially. And often times when these ghosts appear,
they may attach themselves onto young girls, which made those
girls become resentful and unable to get married as well,
in which turns into more sad ghosts, right, because that's
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how it goes. And of course, how does one keep
from being haunted by a bitter, unfulfilled virgin ghosts? Well,
according to the Wikipedia part of how to stop this ghost.
All tra dishes may include taking quote dolls emphasizing the
male genitalia which were made of straw and put it
in the coffin, or dolls dressed in men's clothing and
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then bury upside down, so you turned them so that
they really can't come out. Uh. Then thorns were placed
around the coffin and buried. The reason for putting a
male doll emphasizing the genitals in a coffin or wearing
men's clothes is to comfort them for making contact with
men even after they die, and burying the coffin's upside
down is to block the virgin ghost from coming out. Thoroughly,
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this is thoroughly at the end. I don't know why
this is the quote from that um so they have
a big plans on how you do this. And of
course yes, this is also one of those cautionary tales.
This is what happens to unlucky women who can't give
the husbands. And you don't want to become this girl,
so you need to go find your man so you
love your life will be fulfilled. Of course, I don't
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think anyone cleans to that. And apparently there's towns and
areas where they have ghost festivals are interesting in Korea
and you can visit these areas as well. And some
of these like rituals, I think they do in order
to keep the ghosts from coming to them or at them.
So there you go, there you go. That's interesting. I
mean again, yeah, that those are fears we've talked about of,
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like you know, the single lady ending up alone, the spinster,
how dreadful, how sad. Yeah, and I also find it
interesting like the male doll, the male genitalia, like very
heteronormative urban legends. Oh. Absolutely, again you're also supposed to
have children. Uh, yes, it was a great fear. Yes,
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all right. Let's talk about the legend of Madame koit Koi,
the story of the ghost who haunts boarding schools that
is popular in Nigeria, South Africa and Ghana that originated
in the nineties. Okay, so there are yes, Like you said, Samantha,
there are a few stories about Madame koit Koi. One
of the most popular ones goes that Madame koit koy
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was a beautiful teacher at a secondary boarding school often
told as an all girls boarding school, specifically, her shoes
of choice were these red heels that would make a
sound like ki as she walked. Madame koit Koy was
a cruel teacher, often abusing students for no reason. As
the story goes, the students despised her. Eventually, she was
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fired after she slapped a female student in damaged her ear.
After this, Madam coy Coy left in a fury and
on her way home, died in an accident, but not
before she promised to get revenge on her ex students.
It didn't take long at all before students reported hearing
the coy of her heels roaming the halls and toilets
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at night, and another version of the tale her her
own students bound and gagged her as she was leaving
one day and beat her to death. The students involved
were picked off one by one until only one remained,
who swore he could hear the clicking of her heels.
No one believed him, and he was found dead soon after.
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The school closed and the other students transferred, spreading the
legend with them. And yes, it probably goes without saying,
but again this has never been verified with truth and
almost certainly is firmly an urban legend, and nothing more,
but still the urban legend Persists is very popular. Another version,
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students decided to play a prank on Madam koit Koy
and locked her in a cupboard, one red heel falling
off as she was dragged into this cupboard, where she
was forgotten about and died. She was pregnant at the time,
and as she thought of her child dying, she swore
to get revenge on all the students who locked her
in the cupboard. They would know what it was like
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to be locked in the dark, dying and screaming with
no one to hear you. In this version, you only
hear the clicking of one high heel. When you hear her.
You're supposed to close your eyes until the sound passes,
or you will end up in the cupboard next to her,
locked in clawing at the door with no one to
hear you. Many similar stories do exist, sometimes with different
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names Madam Oke and Ghana, Miss Cone Coco in Tanzania,
Pinky Pinky and South Africa, but all they all kind
of involve a vengeful teacher that serves to keep students
in mind from going out past curfew again. These kind
of like morality tales and Ghana One story goes that
she was a teacher at a school with some troublesome students.
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One day, she took off one of her heels while
running after a student, waving them in the air. She
chased him across the street. She didn't see the car coming,
and it rammed into her, killing her instantly, sending the
red heel flying. The ghost takes the form of a
single red shoe, screaming where is my shoe? To what
you're supposed to respond, Madam hoide and she'll leave you alone.
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These are the kind of things I would do, even
if I didn't really believe it, I would still do
it because I don't want to take the risk exactly.
I mean, we take these cautionary tales and we're like, okay,
so what is the solution. Is there a solution? Okay,
now we know I want to fight you exactly, made
to be prepared. And meanwhile, South Africa's version Pinky Pinky
targets girls specifically, and specifically on top of that, girls
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wearing pink underwears threatening to rape them. The creature, often impartment,
part woman, part animal, is invisible to boys. Only girls
can see her. People have actually looked into the origins
of this one and why impacts only girls, and they
suspect us to do with the disappearance of girls in
the area and the dangerous girl's face, and or that
the myths was created to keep girls inside and off
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the streets. So yeah, that's madam koit koy um. If
any listeners, no any versions of any of these stories
we're talking about, please right in. Yes, I would love
But okay, so now since we've heard man, we've got
through different countries already. I love it, and we're gonna
cop over to the wonderful Highlands and we're looking at
the legend of a very vampire succubus. I'm like, there
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are so many things in this and what a wonderful combo.
And to be honest, after reading some of these, I'm like,
if I were to be a scary like legend or folklore,
but I turned into one of these miraculously, this is
the one that I choose. It is pretty fantastic. I'm like, okay, okay,
I can do this, So let's get into this terrifyingly
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wonderful creature. The bobb and Sea or the fairy woman
in Scottish Gaelic also known as the Bob and she
or the white woman of the Highlands I guess. So
according to some is that she is the woman in
white for this and by the way, we're gonna talk
a little more about other women in white in other cultures.
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But also she is seen in green and sometimes in
these tales, so it kind of goes different variations apparently.
But this is a type of white woman who kind
of you know, praise on men essentially, but for these
beautiful creatures. They are described, yes, as beautiful enchantresses that
typically prey on hunters who either stray from the path
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after dark or make the unfortunate wish of a female
companionship in the woods after dark. Yeah, huge mistake, dude,
don't do this. And due to the blood often on
the hunters after a kill, that attracts these specific fairy
shubas vampires so many things. But unlike vampires, uh, though
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they do feed off the blood of the individual, they
don't bite into them. They actually have sharp talents that
come out that they rip into them essentially and drink
and feed from them in that way. And you will
often not see this until they are too close to you. Um.
Apparently in some of the legends. They also have horse
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hoofs or like some type of hoofs as feet, but
as often covered up by the dress, so you never
see it until it's too late obviously. And they according
to some other legends, they do feed off some women,
but it's very very rare. And when they do this
to the women, it actually turns the women into yes,
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bob and see, so they create more if having a women. Um.
And of course they don't just attack, oh no, they
are true to interesses. And they entice the men by
how getting them to dance with them and putting them
under a sort of trance. So they have a power.
Like they're very good influencing men and enticing and seducing men.
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And yeah, like I said, they have a lot of powers,
including as you talked about, shape shifting. Yes, they can
turn into different shapes and more often than not likely
to shift into wolves, which is even better. I'm like, yeah,
there we are, um. And although according to legend, it
does awaken them to be in this type of form
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because they would rather be fairies. Apparently you can do
trances and all of that wobbing a fairy only, but
it helps them to get away an attack and change
shapes obviously. And yet and according to some of the legends,
they like to travel impacts. They sleep underground, uh in
a coffin during the day, and some of them don't
even come out except for once a year and can
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only be found in the woods. And the way to
repel them. Apparently they don't like iron, and I've learned
this from supernatural people. Apparently supernatural creatures don't like either
iron or silver. I need to find both of those. Salt.
Salt is the thing, but I haven't seen that mentioned
in any of these yet. Sorry, sorry, supernatural It's true,
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it's true. So there. Yeah, I found these creatures really
fascinating and the artwork form are really beautiful. It's kind
of one of those like, yeah, there it is. But yeah,
so this is the very succubus vampire for y'all to
know if you go ever into Scotland hunting alone. Oh yeah,
for sure. I love it. I love it. I'm glad
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to know that you have a preferred fairy tale monster
you'd like to turn into. I mean, like, I feel like,
if I had to choose one, that would be the one.
I think. It's pretty good. It's pretty solid. Now, let's
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hop over to another part of world and discuss law
your Rhona, the weeping woman that often haunts rivers at night,
who has scared generations and has featured in books, TV shows,
and multiple movies. Um and yes, this is also a
kind of another take on the Woman in White, which
we have. Yeah, like you said, quite a few in here.
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The story of law Eurona originated hundreds of years ago
somewhere in Latin America or Mexico, where that story is
still popularly told. Just as everything else we've discussed, there
are a lot of versions of this legend. At its
cord involves a mother who killed or are lost I
guess her children, but usually killed usually by drowning, and
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after that was filled with heartbreak and regret over it,
drowning herself in grief literally not like just crying, but
like actually drowning herself or sometimes simply dying of grief.
The reason she did this varies. Killed her children from
catching her rich husband cheating and killing their children in
a fit of ridge, discovering her children are illegitimate and
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killing them to prevent the wife from taking them away,
or even killing them as a way to be with
a man she loves, but he rejects her, so she
takes her own life. After that, because of what she did,
she has trapped in purgatory until she finds her children.
A lot of the stories say she goes to the
gates of heaven and they're like, can't come in without
the souls of your children. Sorry, So she has to
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go look around for the souls of her children, and
she haunts the earth searching for them, wailing, where are
my children? Dressed in a long white burial gown these days?
In popular legend, she kidnaps children who resemble her own
are those who disobey their parents, or I've personally heard
children whose parents she thinks don't deserve them right um,
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which is an interesting take on on that idea. In
some versions, she attacks cheating men are lures drunk men
into the water. Her whale is sometimes believed to be
a foreteller of do kind of like a banshee. And
her story really has captivated and terrified generations. You can
find articles of people writing like I heard this word
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and as a kid, and I'm still I'm afraid of it,
like just really sticking with people. Some trace her story
back to the astect goddess Kataque and I'm sorry if
I'm butschering that who legend has it? This goddess was
heard weeping before the Spanish conquest, so like crying for
her children. Others claim she is actually law your own
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is actually her Nan Cortes's interpreter and lover, Lama lynch
A Um. When the asset capital fell, Cortes returned to
his first wife, abandoning Lama lynch A and the son
they had together. Interestingly, she's also considered the mother of
modern Mexico, while also a traitor for aiding Spanish. Yeah. Yeah.
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Some researchers have suggested this story and others like it
reflect patriarchal standards of blaming little woman and here the
mother and the trope of the evil failed mother Um
that it's a way to reinforce expectations around being this
perfect mother. We've talked about that a lot too. They
point out that she shares a lot of characteristics with
other urban legends and monsters Um, some that we're going
(23:11):
to talk about later. But yeah, that was really interesting
because it's been like legit research papers written on her
and what she represents in particularly what she represents in
Mexico with the history aspects, So it's a lot going
on there, for sure. Did you watch the movie. I've
seen both movies because, as is we were talking about
this other night, as it's the case a lot of times,
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two movies the same thing kind of come out around
the similar time. So I've seen kind of the more
classic mainstream American horror movie, and then I saw one
that was much more like I believe it's a Spanish
it's a foreign language film, and it was much more
about like politics and a dictator and possible dementia and
(23:55):
or Alzheimer's like is this is he hallucinating or is
she real? All? Dang, I need to go find that one,
because yeah, I like the movie a lot because it
was fun and then learning that tale. But yeah, there's
definitely a different variation again of the woman in white
who wants to punish some men sometimes my found Yeah,
that does seem to be a lot of the theme
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about punishing men, the punishing women and punishing because there's
just a lot of pun punishing, punish, punishing. So now
we're going back up the East, uh, and we're talking
about the legendary hannuckle Son, which is the young girl
who haunts the girls bathroom at the school, and of
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course brought memories of Harry Potter as Yeah, morning, Myrtle
who likes to stay in the girl's bathroom and she's
very helpful. Of course, we don't have any uh Harry
Potter Wizarding World in han knuckle Sons, uh till, but yes,
it did bring me to that. But she, of course
was before Harry Potter do. And how did the a
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young girl who they see become a ghost? Well, according
to different legends, we have a version which talks about
the young girl harn uco Son, being killed while playing
hide and seek um and it was at this time
that the air raid happened in Japan during World War two,
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and she was caught in that blast and tragically killed
at that point and then came back as a ghost.
Then there's another version which is kind of like how
we were talking about with Laurona, and a lot of
other tales about her actually being murdered tragically by either
a parent or sometimes tell us talk about a stranger
who murders her. And then there is the possibility that
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she was abused and sad and so she died by suicide.
So I think you tell the tale based on which
one scares you the most, and you go into depth.
I think the most tragic is the World War two thing.
I'm like, oh, that makes me really sad because it
could be too real. It happened and all that. And
of course when the best parts of this tale much
like Candy Man, because we were talking about the new
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release of Candy Man and how it scared the hell
out of me when it was first released when I
was younger and I watched the younger I still have
nightmares about that one. And then of course it's a
type of the bloody merry tale, but that you can
actually summon a knack Son if you want to. Don't
do it. I feel like that's just always just don't
do it. I don't know why you would do it. Don't.
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I'm about to give you instructions on how to do this,
but don't there. And how does one summon such a
sad and typically evil spirit. Well, you enter the girl's
bathroom at a school, Best on the third floor. Apparently
the number three is very very key here. Best on
the third floor, go to the third stall of the bathroom,
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and you knock three times and ask nacko, son, are
you there? I'm not doing this, and then she responds
with yes, I am here, or something along those lines,
with a very eerie voice. Apparently, then you may see
a ghostly hand or a bloody hand appear under the stall,
coming towards you. And that's only if you're lucky, that's
(27:10):
all you see. But she also may appear, uh, and
you will see her apparently on a red scart. Red
is a big theme here, and maybe sometimes with burn marks.
They say that, and she will pull you through the
toilet and to hell. So she's gonna drag you into
hell through the toilet. There's so many things to that.
That's just nightmarish. I think I once talking about like
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a squatty potty and all of that, and she'll just
come and grab you from underneath. That doesn't left four
things that I'm afraid it's gonna crawl up from a
squatty potty in general, So I'm like, oh my god.
Or she may have her three headed lizard come and
devour you. So that is, and you may not see
her at all. All you see when you open the
door is a three headed lizard that is used to
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kill you and eat you. And there are a few
that believe it is possible that you will not be
eaten or you will not be dragged to hell if
you present her with your perfect grades showing that you
are a great student, I guess, or some versions say
a perfect exam score, so maybe you have a test
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on hand. So don't go into the bathroom unless you
have a perfect score. Doing this okay, which again makes
it seem like this is an academic influenced cautionary tale
of like, you better have good grades or her knuckles
son is gonna come and get you if you're exactly
But either way, don't do it. Don't don't summon evil things.
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That's not to tempt them. That's my advice. And she
has made her rounds and uh death, different enemies and
mangas and movies as well. Yeah. I just pulled up
a trailer for one very fun um so yeah, she
is definitely famous. Don't tempt her, Okay, I love it.
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I just have a discussion about this other day before
we watch Candy Man. I was like, it's not I
don't believe it. I'm just not gonna do it. To
tempt this we I did do Bloody Mary, and I
think we're going to talk about that later. But I
did go down a rabbit hole after this year's years
years ago, after the whole Allies the Lamp thing, which
(29:20):
I'm not going to go into but some of you
probably know what I'm talking about, and did. One of
the theories for the whole thing was there's this thing
called the elevator game, which is kind of like this,
like you get to the fifth floor and then you
press all these buttons and then you don't turn around,
and then you'll never know if your world is real
or not. For some reason, it really freaked me out,
and then I started instead of stopping there, I was
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looking at all these other games you can do to
like summon things, right, boards, let's stay away from those.
I went through big REGI board period and then it
scared me and I've not used it since. I'm just saying,
don't tempt them. Wait, so we were talking about the games.
Did you do any of those games? Can you tell?
(30:04):
Like as a kid, I did Bloody Marry. I definitely
tried Bloody Mary several times. Did you do the light
as a feather stuff as a board? One? I never
did that, did you. Yeah, it worked too. It was freaky.
I was like, oh my god, we all ran. I mean,
of course there was ten of us with two fingers up,
(30:27):
so I feel like, plausibly we could do this. But
it felt really weird. Yeah, I mean it does. It
looks weird to me, and I find it like it
makes sense. I've read the articles about why it works,
and I believe them, but it just looks weird, right,
And as children, when you hear these things and it works, man,
yeah I did that. Um, it's like you crack an egg.
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It's not a real egg, but it's like a thing
that you do some of your back crack the egg
and then you see and it's supposed to foretell how
you die and mind us like apparently from a great height.
I'm like, I think that's just because you pushed me.
Whoa there, I never heard that part. I knew the
cracking egg and do this. That was just the sensation
that I didn't know. You're supposed to see your death. Yeah,
(31:09):
they shove you and you're supposed to see you what.
Hopefully this is real. They crack an egg, they do
a knife in your back, not a real knife, again
people who have no idea what we're talking about or
like what it was just some like game that you played.
Somebody was giving you these sensations and feelings on your
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back and they would say this like creepy poem while
they did it. When I played it, they would shove
you at the end, and you were supposed to just
see like a color and the color you could interpret
to mean what your death would be. And I saw
something that either meant like water or a fall from
a great height. But again I think because you shoved me,
that's probably why that makes sense. Okay, anyways, moving on,
(31:59):
but yeah, moving on. Yes, well we'll have more discussion
like this in part two. But in the meantime, listeners,
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