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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The donkey. Yeah, it's dunkey today for Tuesday, August thirty.
If goes the little pump, a little pump is a rapper,
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and I'm not here to slant the little pump. I'm
here to talk to the young man this morning, because
this dunk here today isn't just an indictment a little pump.
He's just the latest in a long line of folks
who for some reason like to downplay with other people
are going through mentally all right, if you haven't heard
the good brother Russ drop on a clue the bomb
for us, I respect that young man. To me, he
represents everything that's right. I love what that man stands for.
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And he's announced that he's canceling his European tour to
take a mental health break. Salute to us. Okay, because
there was the time when the conversation around mental health
was so stigmatized that people couldn't be open about their
mental health issues, like you would have to make up
all types of silly stuff lying to get out of things,
because we couldn't just say, hey man, you know, mentally
I'm not gonna be able to do it all right,
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whether it's anxiety, depression, grief, whatever it is, that's uh,
you know, keeping you from showing up to be yourself.
We were afraid to just say that. But now we've
gotten to a beautiful point in our society where when
folks feel mentally exhausted, they can just say they're mentally exhausted,
and I, for one respected and appreciate it. To when
folks like Rusting Now if they are pulling out of
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something for mental health reasons, that someone who deals with
their own you know, anxiety and about to depression and grief,
I overstand, you know why he's pulling out of his
European tour. So it really bothers me when folks like
a little Pump makes statements like this, you got mental
health issues. I'm from day County, Ditch, I was born
mental health issues. How about you? You You can deal with
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this stop and you know damn or who I'm talking to. Boy,
You guys just canceled the whole Europe to our bitch stuff, canceling,
pulping the plan and go through your shows, little Pump,
that's corney as hell. Okay, number one, I'm sick of
people using the P word as an insult. All right,
how do you insult someone by calling them something that
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so many people enjoy a right not to mention, there's
nothing weak about a vagina, sir. In fact, they should
make tires out of the same material as vagina walls.
You would never need a new tire. Okay, they would
be the most durable wheels on the planet. But I digress.
What I'm really sick of is people trying to downplay
with other humans are going through mentally. How do you
know what Russ is feeling on the inside? Not to mention, Pump,
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I heard you say that you from Florida and you've
been dealing with mental health issues your whole life. You know,
your uncle Sharla agrees with that, because the craziest people
in America come from the Bronx and all the Florida.
But I would love to know, Pump, how exactly are
you dealing with those mental health issues? Huh that you
say you're dealing with because you're probably dealing with them
the same way a lot of us used to by
suppressing them. Okay, by staying busy. Oh you didn't know
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staying busy as a trauma response. Huh? I know, I
know you find relief in your work you find relief
that studio. Well, guess what most symptoms of PTSD reflect
someone who is capable of functioning in the world as
long as they remain stimulated, because you are afraid of
what will happen when you stop moving. For pumping anyone
else who wants to downplay what people are going through
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in regard to their mental health. When you stop suppressing
your emotions and numbing yourself with drugs and alcohol or
you know, staying busy, watch what happens to you, Okay,
when you have a complete mental and emotional breakdown because
you've just been running, running and running, pushing, pushing, pushing,
not stopping to deal with anything, watch what happens. I
guarantee you it's just gonna be a wham. You're gonna
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hit that wall. And guess what, when you hit that wall,
the only thing you're gonna be able to do is
lean on that wall and rest. Sometimes walls are there
so we can lean on them and rest. That's why
we hit them. Okay. I just want all of us
to be more compassionate when it comes to people who
deal with mental health issues, because it's hard enough trying
to explain something that you don't fully understand. And if
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you are person that doesn't fully understand it, just be quiet, okay,
because I guarantee, little Pump, at some point you are
going to be dealing with something in your head that
you don't quite understand. And it's not until we are
lost that we begin to understand ourselves. And Pump, when
you get lost, we will be here to help you
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find your way okay, when you need it. But in
the meantime, please understand the best way to keep your
peace of mind is to not disturb the peace of
mind of others. Please give a little Pump the biggest
see hall please all right, I just don't understand it,
Like I'm just why when somebody says they have to
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pull out of something because of mental health issues, somebody
has to come out and say that has to come
out and call bs on it. Well, why let's open
up the full lines eight hundred five, eight five one
or five one? When people say mental health, do you
do you agree? Do you believe you? We do understand that.
You know, the conversation around mental health had been stigmatized,
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you know, for so long, and I hear people say
things like, oh, you know, people are just you know,
talking about this stuff so much now because it's trendy.
Are maybe because people have the confidence to speak about
it now because so many people are talking about it now.
I get it, but it but it is a It
is a line, right. And the reason I say it's
a line because you know, when somebody commits a crime,
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somebody does something and they get caught, the first thing
they say is it's mental health related. And sometimes I don't,
I don't necessarily, but it probably is. But that don't
mean that they get they don't have to deal with
the consequence of their actions, right. But sometimes I and
it's just me thinking, sometimes I think it's bullcrap. How
you got to go to the extreme? Though I ain't
talking about but I'm talking about stuff like rus But
I'm just I'm just pulling out of things. But I'm
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just telling it's it's an excuse that I feel that
people use, and I feel like when people are really
going through it, people don't believe it because I feel
sometimes people use it as an excuse. So when people
are really going through it and they talk about it,
people don't believe them either. So what the hell a
you're supposed to do? When you're talking about the line.
You know what I mean, I'm damned if I do,
damned if I don't. If I talk about it, then
you're just using as an excuse could pull out of
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your tour. All you just don't want to fight, you
know what I mean. But if I don't say anything
and I just pushed through and I don't and I
show up and I'm not my best self and I
project all this negativity on the people whose fault is
again say this is gonna sell foul. It's gonna sell foul.
But well, shut up there, No I'm not. But if
I don't want to go to work, what's the easy
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exxcuse that nobody really can check. What's the reason you're
not going to work? I have mental health mental mental
health issues. But what if it's really got exactly And
you shouldn't after my point, you shouldn't have to because
some things are out of our realm of understanding. Like
it's hard enough to try to explain something that you
don't even fully understand yourself. You know, you just wake
up some days and you're like, yeah, I don't want
to show up. When when you was in that damn
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when they had to check your ass into the hospital
and you was in there with the little robe on,
with your ass out, and you escape to go DJ
in the club. Wasn't you going through something mentally in
them emotionally? What did you just say? My ass out?
See you see that's the first thing you said. You
could have just said I was stuck in the thing
with a rollball, but you said that's what you said.
You escaped the hospital, bro, you had the hospital galling on?
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Was you not in the club with your ass out?
Who was not in the club? Did you not escape
the hospital with your ass out? No? My ass was it?
How do we get to ask we're talking about breast story.
I'm sick of y'all acting like people who dealing with
mental health issues are lying. I'm tired of it. I mean, like,
why do y'all do this? Let's let's talk about it.
Eight hundred five A five one on five one. I'm
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just saying, before the excuse you go, always say your kid,
my kid is sick. You ain't gotta go somewhere, nobody
gonna check. Why would you lie on your kids? Most
people do that a lot of people do that. Now,
as you say mental health, there's no question. You can't
ask what what's mentally wrong with you? What are you
thinking about? What are you going through? You just gotta
get none of your business. That's right. Give me my
goddamn space, back back, give me sixty feet eight hundred
five eight five one five one lets it was with COVID.
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and don't worry about COVID ruining your trauma. They're lying
or they need to suck it up, you know, they're
just scared. They need to push through. Do you realize
pushing through is what has caused that person to hit
the wall? You know what I mean, They've probably been
pushing through their whole life. You know, staying busy, which
is which is a response to trauma. That's what staying
busy is a response to trauma because when you stop
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for that moment, you gotta deal with all the things
you've been running from. That's why COVID was such a
eye open up for so many people, and it made
so many people start sitting down and go talk to
therapists and whatnot. Because COVID made us be still for
the first time, and a lot of us didn't like
what we saw. Yeah, no, I get it, and I
do believe people do have mental issues. But I also
feel like people use it as an excuse. I feel
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like it's in an easy excuse to use because it's
something that can't be checked. It can't it can't be verified.
It's just something within yourself. And I feel like people
tend to use it. Let me ask a simple question,
who are we to say, hey, this person's lying about
what they're going through mentally, what they're going through emotionally,
How the hell do we know? And I know that
if somebody like Russ is walking away from millions of dollars,
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that's the thing. Like Russ isn't hurting anybody, nobody, correct.
The only person that's gonna suffer in this situation is Russ.
He's walking away. If he's walking away from millions of
dollars for whatever reason, you already got to sold out
European tour. That lets me know clearly there's something wrong.
And I salute Russ that you know he's able to
articulate what it is that he's going through mentally, because
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for so long, man, so many of us couldn't, like yo,
you be dealing with mental issues, you'd be dealing with
emotional issues, and you couldn't say, hey, man, I'm stuffering
from mental health issues. You got to make up some
other excuse, like you said earlier, something about lying on
your dog or something like that, some about the dog
eating kids. What do you say, what are you talking about?
What did you say it was something about the kids
and something. I don't remember what it was. All I'm
simply saying, but whatever it was, it stupid excuses like
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that we used to have to make up. Oh I
would say that that you people to always say that
their kids were sick, but it would be an excuse,
or that's right, something like that. That's right. Well, let's
go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this, Hey Alicia?
Talk to a Celicia. What's your thoughts? So? I I
am a mental health counselor down in South Florida. Um, sorry,
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my kids are excited to hear you. Guy. Tell them
we said peace. What's up? Guys? Yes, I am. I'm
a mental health counselor down in Florida, and I mean
every single day I work in residential treatment down here.
And we have people that you know, our CEOs of
companies are professional athletes, you are they at home moms
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or teachers. We have special education teacher in my center
right now who had a mental health breakdown. And I
cannot imagine this woman. She's been a psychotic break At
this moment, she should be teaching second graders, you know,
that's her job. That she's on leave. From and I
cannot even imagine this woman showing up to work for
five minutes without a catastrophe occurring. So people really need
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to understand mental health is not a joke. It's not
an excuse. People can use it as an excuse, just
like during the pandemic, people call it off because they
said they had a fever or whatever, and you just
let it flyde because you'd rather them not come around
and bring their potential, you know, negative exposures to the
workplace if they need to do something to focus on
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themselves or to get themselves in their health space. So,
you know, when he's performers, especially these artists, celebrities, a
lot of them do have anxiety that's crippling. A lot
of them do have, you know, identity issues that they
struggle with just showing up and putting out this image
that there's somebody that we all expect them to be,
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and if they fall short of that, like Charloagne said,
we criticize them for that. We criticize them if they snapped,
we criticize them if they have like a bad night.
So when these people say they just need a day
off or a night off, or they've got to cancel
a tour. I feel like we all have the people
need to learn how to respect those boundaries that people
are trying to sit up. Man, that's real. Give why
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you hit away? Why you hang up on the lady?
I was gonna tell her to give about her information.
See you part of the problem. You are part of
the problem. You you with the fake bid. I'm looking
suspicious over that. Don't look suspicious, man, See that's your problem.
I'm hurt by what every time you tell bad about me?
What I'm hurt? Hurt about? What? By are you talking
bad about manybody talking bad about because you just said
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I talk bad about your bid and anything that about you?
But that's me. That ain't you. That's me, that's not you.
It's not even yours. That's me. If you didn't pray
it on, I wouldn't say nothing about it, not if
you left that in the camp at home, I would
have nothing to say about five eight five one oh
five on. We're talking about mental health. You know, little
Pump made fun of Ross and said it was some bullcrap.
And we're asking when people say that going through mental problems,
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do you believe them? You should? And by the way,
who Are you to even act like they're lying. You
don't know what's going on in that person's head. Let's
talk about it. It's a breakfast cloud. Good morning,