Dr SanJay Gupta Interview and more

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yo yo yo yo yo Good morning, angela Ye, Good morning,
Charlomagne the Guy. Peace to the planet is Monday, Good morning,
Good morning. How y'all feel lot now Monday? Back to
the workwek How is everybody's weekend pretty good? I opened

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my coffee shop, so that was exciting. I was there
all weekend. Yeah, it's doing pretty well so far. It's
been really really busy so I'm grateful for that for
everybody that's come out. We're only open from eight am
to two pm until after Thanksgiving. It's kind of like
a soft opening while we're getting everybody trained properly, getting
it all together, seeing what has to be fixed. But

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it's doing great. Coffee is a great business. Congratulations. Caffeine
is like a like a legal drug. Yeah no, and
it's actually really good for you. I always talk about
the health and if it's a coffee, it helps with diabetes,
it helps prevent Parkinson's. It's an appetite to pressing. It
gives you energy. It's just when people add all that
cream and sugar that's what makes coffee not so good. Okay,

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I never drink coffee, but I'm gonna try. I'm gonna
come to your shop this week. I said that somebody
was looking for you too. Yeah, I've seen. Thanks for
the video. And we start with oat milk too, because
we don't like you know how a lot of times
place it's up charged for oat milk. But if you
oat milk off the bat unless you requests something else. Yeah,
I'm gonna try that now over the weekend. My daughter,
who acts she's an actress. She had her play over

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the weekend, which was pretty cool. So I was by
her play watching her. Plan went to a couple of
shows just to check her out. Of love seeing her
be happy. I love seeing her acting. So I was
there and I was also in Indianapolis. Shout to Happy
birthday to dry En. I believe that's her name. She
turned fifty. Her husband through her a big party in Indianapolis,
a private party. It was Me, Jazzy, Jeff and Trey songs.

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I ran into Trey. So Trey sends his love to
everybody up here. Trigger this listening in some Trey songs
earlier over the weekend. Now, he was telling me about
the best thing in his life and the best thing
that has ever happened to him, his child. He was
so excited and he was telling me everything about the
baby and everything. So Trey and this was in the club.

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This was in the middle of the club. Me and
Trey was talking about kids, which was so funny. So
you'll too old to be in the club. When you're
in the club and you're talking about your kid, you
don't need to be in the club no more. The
statue of limitations on your club appearances has expired because
you really don't want to be there. Um. Yeah, no,
we were both. We were both excited to be there,
but we just haven't seen each other in a long time.

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So when you see somebody, you catch up, no matter
where you're at, if you at the airport or if
you're on the street or in the club. You know,
we were talking about that. We did that for a
little bit and then we got back to you know,
I had the DJ and he did what he did
to get back to your families and now we DJ first,
but in the morning we was back. All right, Well,
let's get the show cracking. Now, we got some special
guests joining us today, right, Doctor Sanjay Gupta's going to
be here, that's right. I know we always have a

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lot of questions about COVID, about the vaccine, So we
have an expert who's been following this and studying this
every single day for the past couple of years. Yeah,
he has a new book called World War C Right. Yeah,
so we'll kick it with him in a little bit
right now, Front page News what we're talking about. But look,
this morning, we are going to talk about this bipartisan
infrastructure bill throughout the morning. But we also have some

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other stories as well. You know, today's a big day
as airline are preparing for a travel surge. We'll tell
you about that, all right, we'll get into all that next.
Keep it locked. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, bj
M v Angela. Ye, Charlemagne, the guy we are, the
Breakfast Club's getting some front page news now over the weekend.
The Falcons are in football. Falcons beat the Saints. The

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Browns beat the Bengals, Dolphins beat the Texans, the Chiefs
beat the Packers, Titans beat the Rams, the Cardinals beat
the forty nine is, The Chargers beat the Eagles, Ravens
beat the Vikings, Patriots beat the Panthers, Jaguars beat the Bills.
My Giants are now in second place. They beat the
Raiders twenty three sixteen, And Charlemagne, I'm sending you healing energy.
The Broncos beat the Cowboys thirty to sixteenth. They got

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washed washed yesterday. We're still six and two and number
one on top of the NFC. EA's with a bullet.
It's not even close. Yeah, now we're tired of a second.
We'll beat that show, Yes we will. And Monday Night
Football the Steelers take on the Bears. Now Canelo Alvarez,
he won, he beat planned over the weekend, becomes undismuted
super middleweight chan mping with an eleventh round t K

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amazing fight man. Canelo Alvara is just too good man,
It's too good. Plant fought well, but you know, the
way he was fighting just wasn't sustainable. He was thinking
way too much punishment and leaving that left hook hopen
for Canello all night and that's ultimately what took him out.
But travel includes bonds with Canelo Alvaraz can understand nothing
that just came out of my mouth. I still drown
the drop on a cludes bonds for right now? What else?

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And also Odell Beckham Junior was released from the Browns
over the weekend too, actually Friday on his birthday, So
not sure what team he's going to, but it looks
like he wants to go to the Seahawks. But we'll
see what else you got easy? Well? Airlines are preparing
for an international travel surge because they have ease COVID
restrictions here in the United States, so everything reopens today

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to fully vaccinated visitors. And so now right now they're
saying they've seen a four hundred and fifty percent increase
in international plant of sale bookings versus the six weeks
prior to the announcement. That's just for Delta. So they
are saying guidelines require or non citizen travelers to provide
proof they've been fully vaccinated prior to boarding a flight
to the US. All passengers, including US citizens, will be

(06:08):
required to test negative for COVID within three days of
a flight's departure as well. All right, now, here is
what's in the bipartisan infrastructure bill that Congress just passed. It.
It's a one point two trillion dollar infrastructure package that
got passed on Friday, And this is something that's been
in the works for quite some times. Democrats are saying
this bill pays for itself through a multitude of measures

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and without raising taxes. But here is what's in the
infrastructure bill. It's going to create jobs, replacing lead water
pipes so every American, every child can drink clean water,
improving their health, and putting plumbers and pipe for their work.
How long we've been talking about that. It's a gigantic issue. Yeah,
that should have been a no brainer for so long.

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And then there's funding for roads and bridges, money for
transit and rail, broadband upgrades, upgrading the airports, the ports,
the water electric vehicles, improving power and water systems, environmental remediation.
And here is what Biden is saying about how this
will all be paid for. That's a lot of money, guys,
one point two trillion dollars. And this bill is fiscally responsible.

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That's a fancy way of saying it's fully paid for.
It doesn't raise the deficit by a single penny, and
it actually reduces the deficit, recording the leading economists in
this country over the long term. And it's paid for
it by making sure that the wealthiest Americans, the biggest
corporations began to pay their fair share. And so, and
keep my campaign commitment, it does not raise a single

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penny in tax for anyone making less than four hundred
thousand dollars a year. Well, how many compromises they need
to get that done? Because they did leave a lot
on the table two point two point twenty five trillion
dollars bill. Well, they have to leave out money for
caregiving for aging and disabled Americans. They were going to
spend four hundred billion on that that's a left out. Also,

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his proposed it would have expanded access to long term
care services under Medicaid, and that's left out. It also
would have improved the wages of home health workers, who
make about twelve dollars an hour now. Also one hundred
billion dollars for workforce development, which would have helped dislocated workers,
assist underserved groups, put students on career paths before they
graduate high school. Also money to modernize VA hospitals. That's horrible,

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especially being at Veterans Day. Is this Thursday, Like, how
you leave about eighteen billion dollars, you know, to modernize
the VA hospitals. Also corporate tax hikes that Biden wanted
to use to pay for the American Jobs Plan. A
lot of things have been left out in order to
get this pass. Corporate people say no, no, no, no,
you won't be raising taxes on us. All right, Well
that is your front page news. We'll talk about this

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more in the next hour. All right, Now, get it
off your chest. Eight hundred five one five one. If
you need to vent phone lines to wide open, hit
us now. It's to breakfast club. Go morning. The breakfast
club is your time to get it off your chest,
whether you're man or blast, so people to have the
same in We want to hear from you on the

(09:04):
breakfast clubs. Hello, he's this. What's up, guys? This is
Joe Man of Morning. Everybody Happy Monday, Joe? What up? Men?
Getting off your chests, brothers, I want to get off
my chests. These cowboys, man, you know, I mean, you score,
He's a super Bowl winning team and you get it
banked like that Charlemagne? What you got to say? Man?
I know you're not serious, right, you know this is
the NFL any given Sunday schoo make Two weeks ago

(09:28):
you had brag to me like, oh man, super Bowl,
these Super Bowl contendants, Cowboys, we're going on so because
we're six and two and lost the game to a
four and fourteen. Every year, every year with the Cowboy,
y'all went in the beginning and y'all losing player Quin
how many how many regular season games did the Bucks
lose last year? I think it was like ten or twelve. No,

(09:51):
they didn't. They won't the Super Bowl playoffs about ten
and twelve other thing of the year before. I'm thinking
about the year before that. My apologies, it happens broady,
we'll be fine. Me. I want to shout out the
traff or somebody who gave me a shout out after
I had come. Yeah, you don't have the energy for
your that's about to your car show anymore, and I
want to use I think it was trash. It would
have a good shout out, man. You know, thanks man

(10:13):
for shouting me out. You know, I try to pick
up a good point. When you got trapping a call
this morning. Man, we'll just send them healing energy. Yeah,
healing energy. Happy more than everybody. Travis definitely gonna call
cowboy fans. Ain't hiding, bro we're six and two. Were
you talking about Hello, who's this Joe Jersey man? You

(10:37):
like so may find too quick? Man, If that was
with a one man, he be talking about that day
we're gonna run. How they got blown out? They got
blown out? My giants that they didn't get that, baby,
I know you're not sitting there bragging about your giants.
How many games your giants won? This you tell me
a second place though, we are number two. That man
shut up number one and y'all got blown out. That's right,

(10:58):
that's that's fine. Let me ask you a question would
you have rather take it that, taking that blowing out
yesterday and be six and two or do what y'all
did yesterday and be two and six or three and
five or whatever the hell y'all. Love doesn't matter, Yes,
it does matter. What is it? Win? There? You go?
Any given Sunday? What is it you giving? Sunday's cowboys lost? Stop?
It be six and two? Thank you, sir? All right,

(11:20):
bron Hello, who's this? If morning? Is Mickey calling from Florida?
How are y'all doing this morning? They NICKI get it
off your chest? Oh, just a couple of things. First
of all, doctor Chargamay, how about our cowboys? How about
them cowboys? I mean, we lost yesterday, but it's fine.
Any given Sunday, we're still six and two out there,
actually exactly one day. I don't mean nothing, that's right. ANTHELI,

(11:45):
how are you doing this morning? Congratulations on the coffee shop?
Thank you so much. I hope you're doing well too. Listen,
I'm just you know, with Monday contains, I'm trying to
get into the zone. But I had a couple of questions.
What's up now with the new infrastructure bill? Of course,
this is that they pushed aside the Police perform at right. Oh, yeah,
that's not happening. I just read a story about what

(12:08):
is his name, Marion Robinson. Now they're trying to push
the case with the federal agents who shot him, and
they're saying that the Police Perform Act could have helped
them with that. But Dow therezation that they're not going
to be afferent properly in my cade. Yeah, the George
Floyd policing bill is dead in the water for now.
Love that all right? And then the second thing was

(12:29):
the afterworld situation. Angela. I know you're probably gonna talk
about it in the rumor report, but how do y'all
feel about that home in fire situation? Man? While they're
still investigating. I just feel like it's such a tragedy.
I feel awful for people who lost their kids and
family members. I saw a fourteen year old died, a
sixteen year old. Just terrible situation. So we'll tell you

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what information we do have from all different sides. But
I always always thought that majority of those festivals, something
like that was bound to happen, though, I mean, it's
just because there's so many people. You're right, You're right,
because remember back in the day when MTV was going
they had the woodstock fred Durson lymp Biscuits got called
out on all that Ryan and stuff, and after that
they were like, yeah, no more, no more, We're not

(13:09):
doing it. It's too crazy, it's too many people. We
are not built for this. So I think it's kind
of why I'm especially sin That's how this describing the
second incident with some craziness like this. Yeah, you know,
the majority of festivals don't have issues like this, so
I think they're just gonna have to figure out how
to make sure this doesn't happen. Ever, again, you can't
blame the artist though you know he was there performing.

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I don't think you could blame the artist, you know,
I mean, I just think they need to, like, like
he just said, they need to figure out how does
some festivals work and how some don't. And that's the
reason why, like and when my kids go to the festival,
my kids went to roll aloud. You know, for my son,
I had somebody go with them, not to necessarily protect
him because my son is is a huge football strength,
but just to guide him in the right way to

(13:52):
see things that he might not see. You know, like, hey,
let's not go in that crowd over there because it
can't get a little crazy come out inside. I will
say that from what I read, it was really nothing
you could do if you was in that crowd. It
was like there was like there was like people with
drowning and people. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. It's just crazy
enough to think, you know, with shootings and all that
other stuff. You just now had to be worried about
people just being so amped up, ye hyped up and yeah,

(14:15):
like being trampled. It's crazy. Coll condolences. Actually, I just
wanted to call in, get that off my chest less
Sharga may know the Cowboys, you're going to the super Bowl.
We out here, baby j S. Congratulations on the new
Queens and y'all's lives. He is getting ready to pop
any day now, ya know. I won't be here you
too too. Yeah, congratulations, y'all had a great day. Say

(14:39):
blast just spending positive energy to all of us to
that I like her, Get it off your chest. Eight
hundred five eight five one O five one. If you
need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Listen, Oh the go go
report got it's all right. Well this Astro World Festival

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over the weekends. A lot of details are emerging right now.
Is that they are investigating what happened. At least eight
people between the ages of fourteen and twenty seven were
killed during a crowd surge at the festival in Houston.
It was a group of about fifty thousand people in attendance.
Hip Hop DX editor in chief Trent Clark, who has
been to several of Travis Scott's performances, said Travis Scott's

(15:28):
Hole aesthetic is about rebellion. The shows have a lot
of raging. With the death of punk rock, hip hop
has indeed adopted and patterned the new generation of mag pits.
It's not uncommon to see a lot of crowding and
raging or complete wild behavior at a Travis Scotts show.
So to my guy, Trent Man dropping a clue box
for TRNK cluk my guy all right now. The Mayor
of Houston, Sylvesta Turner, said the city had more security

(15:50):
at Travis Scott's Astro World Festival on Friday than it
did during the World series, but they are doing a
thorough review and investigation into the event. They said, we
had more security, like I said, than at the World Series,
and they did send hundreds of officers to the event
in addition to about two hundred and fifty non police security.
So they said about fifty thousand people were compressed towards

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the stage at around nine thirty a pm while Travis
Scott was performing, and unfortunately, like we said earlier, eight
people did die. The youngest person who was injured was
ten years old. So in total, seventeen people were transported
to nearby hospitals, eleven experienced cardiac arrest, and more than
three hundred people were treated at the scene. Now, the

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Houston Police Chief, Troy Finner, also discussed what happened and
he said he warrened Travis Scott about ashto World about
the crowd there prior to the event. He did express
concerns about the crowd and that he said, according to
the police chief, he said somebody he knows personally, Warren's
Travis Scott also as well. Another thing that he's talking

(16:53):
about is narcon. They had to use Narcon on a
security officer at Astorworld. They said that one of the
security was actually pricked and they had to use that
because he did end up becoming unconscious, and narkhan is
an emergency treatment for opioid overdoses. So we don't know
what somebody pricked into that individual's neck. But here is

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Houston Police Department Chief Troy Finner discussing. I will tell
you one of the narratives was that some individual was
injecting other people with drugs. We do have a report
of a security officer, according to the medical staff, that
he was reaching over to restrain or grab a citizen
and he felt a prick in his neck. When he

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was examined, he went unconscious, they administer narkhan, he was revived,
and the medical staff did notice a prick, right, So
they're still investigating that. They don't know what that could
have been that was injected into his neck. Now another
man is speaking out, Kyle Green. He said he became

(17:59):
parallel at a twenty seventeen Travis Scott concert in New York.
He said he was at terminal five and he was
reportedly pushed from a third full of balcony during the performance.
And it was a severely crowded event. And so they
also are discussing previous incidents that happened with Travis Scott.
He did plead guilty to reckless conduct charges following Lallapalooza

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back in twenty fifteen, he encouraged fans to jump the
safety barricades, according to authorities. In twenty seventeen, he was
arrested after authorities accused him of inciding a riot during
a concert at the Walmart Arkansas Music Pavilion. A security guard,
police and others reportedly suffered injuries, and as a result,
he did plead guilty to disorderly conduct in a plea deal.
Need to do none of that in this situation, or

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do what any of that stuff that he was previously
accused the door oh, inciding a riot. No, as a
matter of fact, he did stop the crowd several times,
and he did stop his show to try to get
help for people at different times. So I would have
to ask, you know, what's the point of reporting on that,
because it kind of feels like when you know, somebody
gets in trouble with the police and then they start
bringing up their past record, like what's the point of that. Now, Well,

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they're still investigating, so they're trying to see if there
was something more that could have been done, if there's
a history of things. Maybe security should have been up,
maybe they need to have more provisions. There's lawsuits right now,
which we'll get into, but Travis Scott did say this.
I just want to send out prayers to the ones
that was lost. We're actually working right now to identify

(19:25):
the families so we can help assist them through this
tough tim Our fans really mean the world to me.
And any time I can make out, you know, anything
that's going on, you know, I just stop the show,
and you know it help them get the help they need.
You know. We've been working closely with everyone to just
try to get to the bottom of this. I'm honestly
just devastated and I could never imagine anything like this

(19:47):
just happening. I love you all. Yeah, I don't know
what happened in this situation. I mean, it's easy to
blame the artists, but the artist is not in control
of the space. The artist is in control of how
isn't in control of how many people come into this base.
It's not the artist job to regulate oval capacity. I
don't know what happened in this situation. I just know
something went wrong and it's a tragedy. Well here he
is actually stopping the show to help a fan. Oh,

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we need somebody to help if somebody passed out right here.
Oh to touch everybody, just back up, somebody jump in,
Come on, come on, security, get it there. Let's get
in there. Let's get in there. Let's get it in.
And like I said, there are several lawsuits going on already.
Manuel Salza was the first revealed to be suing Travis
Scott in Live Nation. He filed this on Saturday. According
to his lawsuit, defendants failed to properly plan and conduct

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the concert in a safe manner. Instead, they consciously ignore
the extreme risk of harm to concert goers and in
some cases actively encouraged and form fermented dangerous behaviors. Then
there's another lawsuit by twenty three year old attendee Christian Parades,
seeking one million dollars over allegedly being pushed into the
show's general admission metal barrier and suffering permanent bodily injury.

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So this lawsuit names Travis Scott Live Nation as well
as Drake and Harris County Sports and Convention Corporation, So
there'd be numerous others. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot
of checks handed out because of this situation. I mean,
somebody's definitely liable. All right, Well that is your rumor report.
We'll have more about this in the next hour. All right,
now when we come back front page news. What we're
talking about, Well, let's talk about a mom who they

(21:16):
thought on the airline she was trafficking her own by
racial daughter. Oh my goodness. All right, we'll get into
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the guy we are to Breakfast Club's getting some front
page news. The NFL. The Falcons beat the Saints, the
Browns beat the Bengals. Dolphin speak, the Texans, Chiefs beat

(21:58):
the Packers, Titans beat the Rams, My Giants beat the Raiders.
We're in second place right now. Jaguars beat the Bills,
Patriots beat the Panthers, Ravens beat the Vikings, Charges beat
the Eagles, Cardinals beat the forty nine is, and the
Broncos washed the Cowboys. It's amazing how excited y'all get
when the Dallas carve the Cowboys who washed. I just

(22:20):
want to point out that the Cowboys have as many
wins as the Giants have losses. Okay, and Monday Night
six and two the Giants and three and six. Lets
let's let's keep that on. You're talking about the pastortime, y'all.
Not number two either. I don't know why you keep
number three, actually number three behind the until you're not
your number three, number two number and football the Steelers
play the Bears. Now what else she got? Easy? Well,

(22:42):
let's I go out of Mom, a California woman. She
is accusing Southwest Airlines of racial profiling. She was accused
of human trafficking. She was traveling with her by racial daughter,
her ten year old daughter Mary McCarthy, of LA. So
they were flying to Denver after receiving news that McCarthy's
brother had suddenly died. They had a brief stop in
and Jose. They went on another Southwest flight, but realized
they couldn't be seated together, so she asked flight attendants

(23:05):
if we could be seated together. She said, they told
us we'd each have to take a middle seat, so
with their permission, I asked other passengers if they would
kindly move so we could be together, especially as my
daughter was grieving, and they did. She said, people are nice.
When they got to Denver, they were met by police
officers on the jetway. She said, I got quite a shock,
having lost my brother the night before, I thought that
someone else in my family had died, and that police

(23:26):
have been sent to deliver the news. As for my daughter,
she was terribly frightened. She was already experiencing the trauma
of her uncle's death, and she is scared of police.
Do the constant headlines about how police treat black people.
She's black. She began to sob and was inconsolable. So yes,
terrible situation that they would do that. Imagine that happens
to your traveling with your child and you get accused

(23:47):
of human trafficking. So she accuses them now of racial profiling.
She's got an attorney, and she wants the airline to
be held fully accountable. I've been on a plane with
my oldest daughter. This was a couple few years ago,
and they asked me a daughter. I'm like, I hope.
So they had this been a white child, they would
not have been a raised eyebrow, according to McCarthy's attorney.
Really Now, on the flip side, a missing teenager from

(24:11):
North Carolina was rescued by Kentucky police. She signaled for help,
and you know how she learned how to do that.
She used a hand gesture known on TikTok that represents
violence at home, according to police. So the sixteen year
olds from Asheville, North Carolina. She was reported missing by
her parents on Tuesday. And on Thursday, a motorist called
nine one on one they saw a girl in distress
in a vehicle. The complainant was behind the vehicle noticed

(24:34):
a female passenger making the hand gesture that are known
on TikTok to represent violence at home. I need help
domestic violence. So it's a one handed time somebody can
use when they're in distress. Oh, TikTok teaching people, thinks absolutely,
And the sixteen year old learned that all right now.
Fiser announced Friday that they're COVID nineteen anti viral pill,

(24:54):
when administered in conjunction with widely used ATIV drug, cut
the risk of hospitalization or death by eighty nine percent
in patients who have COVID. So the preliminary results from
the child were so positive that they did recommend the
study be halted so the drug can be offered to
the general public sooner. So they're saying they're going to
submit this data to make it as soon as possible

(25:16):
to seek emergency authorization for the pill. You say you
got to mix it with an HIV drug, with a
widely used HIV drug doesn't matter. Well, this is to
help you if you already have COVID, so it'll cut
your risk of death and your risk of hospitalization by
eighty nine percent. Well, what if I don't have HIV?
Can I still take the HIV A lot of these
medications end up helping you with other things too. It

(25:38):
might be made for one thing, but it also when
used with visors COVID nineteen pill, can actually help you.
That sounds like a lot, all right, Well that is
your front page news. The giants are definitely in third place. Okay,
don't get quiet now, that's all you heard you. She's
talked about something serious and now you want to go
back to the The giants need some type of medication,

(25:58):
all right, they in third place, but time for a second. No,
you're not, you're not. I'm looking at the standards have
the same record. But anyway, when we come back, doctor son,
Sanjay not your son, so Jay Goopta will be joining us.
We'll talk to him when we come back as a
new book called World War C. So we'll talk to

(26:19):
him next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club,
one five one, the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never
be the same morning. Everybody is DJ Envy angela Ye,
Charlemagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. We got
a special guest in the building. We have doctor Sanjay Gupta. Welcome.

(26:40):
Thanks so much for having me. What an honor your
cold World War C. Who made you do that? Sir? Well,
you know I've been following this pandemic for the last
almost two years now and just fully immersed in this
and realized that there are so many lessons that we've
learned obviously about the virus and the vaccines, but I

(27:02):
think a lot about human behavior, you know, I always
sort of thought that if if something like this were
to happen, the world would come together, kind of like
if there was an alien invasion one day. That's an
alien invasions because that would bring the entire world together.
Some people might think it's a conspiracy theory, and I

(27:24):
believe it. You can't politicize it, you know what I mean.
I don't know, Charlemayne. I think I feel like you
can politicize anything. Nowadays they read and Blue and be like, oh,
it's a Republican. You would think a pandemic would bring people.
I mean, the virus was kind of like an alien.
It was something that we'd never seen before. It affected

(27:45):
all humans, So why wouldn't all humans come together? And
we didn't. You ask the question why I write the
book because seven hundred and fifty thousand people have died
and I have three teenagers and I don't want them
to think that's normal. We could have prevented it, but
we didn't prevent it. So you know, there's there's lessons
to be learned here. Can I say something? And I

(28:06):
know I hear this a lot. You look so much
bigger on TV, like I'm just I'm a good right
there's like fun side, I'm so glad you because I
keep on saying we need an expert in the room
to discuss certain things. So they just recently approved the
vaccine for children age five to eleven. Shot them in

(28:29):
NBA are both saying they don't want their kids to
get vaccinated. Absolutely not, And I'll tell you why not
because of the fact that the media pushed the fact
that kids didn't need the vaccine or kids kids couldn't
catch COVID and kids are you know, they're immune systems
can fight COVID and they don't get as sick as adults.
Like it was never a thing for kids for a
year and a half. And the problem with the media.
You started one chapter and tell us one thing, but

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then you just turned all the way to the end
of the book say now you got to get your
kids back to the five to eleven. You're like, what happened?
I look at it differently. I look at it like,
there's some things you give adults and some things you
give kids, right, and you don't give it to kids
because their bodies are still growing. And in my opinion,
has this been tested enough to give to kids to
see that we have long lasting effects. I don't know.
Adults is a little different. I'm I'm already grown. But

(29:14):
for my kids that are still growing? And what about
what about measles? Vaccine? Would you given tested for years?
How many years? But from the beginning it was given
I wasn't here, no, I know, but people, we have
been receiving this vaccine since it was approved for decades now,
chicken pox vaccine twenty five years. I mean, you know,
in order to have long term studies on something, you'd

(29:37):
have to wait long term. So you have a vaccine,
would you wait twenty years before you start giving it
to people? If it is not killing kids like that?
Like they say, then yes, saying with baby patter of
people with baby patter In the next though, it was
fine for years and then all of a sudden, the
kids cancer. Well I see, here's the thing. It's like,
how many how many deaths are you willing to accept?
I mean, seven hundred, close to eight hundred kids have died.

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This is that a lot? Well, listen to this time
last year, to seven hundred and fifty thousand people had died. Well,
if you compare it that way, but let's put it
this way. Chicken pox. We really needed a chicken pox vaccine.
That was a huge scientific endeavor. How many people do
you how many kids do you think we're dying of
chicken pox before the vaccine? I agree with This time
last year, the media was literally saying the mortality rate

(30:23):
for COVID on kids was very low, so don't worry
about it. No. I don't think they were saying, don't
worry about absolutely work. No, No, it's it's It was
much much worse for for older people, much worse for
the elderly, much worse for people with pre existing conditions.
That's true. But can't both things be true at the
same time? Yes, but can't y'all? Also, I'm sadly we
got you got to hold people's hand in this generation, right,

(30:45):
So it's like you can't go from a little mortality
rate the kids that don't worry about it till hey,
everybody got because that kids wearing in school last year
at this time, But a lot of schools were closed
and now they are and it's spreading a lot more
amongst kids, and they're bringing it home to their families
and people who might have condition. That is another reason
I think that it could be a great benefit is
that you could potentially help really bring this pandemic to

(31:08):
a close because kids can spread this. Why didn't y'all
do a better job for the path of the year
and a half letting it know not only would it
you know adults, and you know people would have bad
immune systems with kids too, And when as soon as
a vaccine is ready for kids, y'all need to go
get your kids vaccine. Yeah, I think I think, I
think I can understand what you're saying, that the idea
that it was really presented as a problem mostly for adults,

(31:29):
which is which is the case? I mean, you know, adults,
especially elderly people over the age of sixty five, were
the most at risk, and that is still the case.
So my kids are vaccinated now. My kids are little
bit older, they're teenagers now. But I immediately thought to myself, boy,
you know, I really hope they don't get sick. The
chances are much lower. But would I be able to

(31:49):
justify the fact that they got sick even though a
vaccine was available and I chose not to vaccinate them.
I guess the real question ends up being, Charlotte Magne,
what risk are you willing to tolerate. We put it
this way. You tell people something, you have a ninety
nine point five percent chance of surviving this, that means
one and two hundred kids will die. Okay, are you
willing to take that risk? I mean we we we

(32:11):
do this and we throw that around. But like secondhand
smoke killed more people a year than eight hundred. Are
you out here telling people they need to band cigarettes? Well,
they kind of, yeah, I mean I'm not. I'm not
advocating for cigre's. It's like that y'all raised the terror
threat on certain things when you have say, but we
don't know the side effects of what happens to these

(32:32):
kids after they take this, you know, vaccine for years
and scary point. But then you also say there's a
lot of passing around. But just because my kid gets
the vaccine doesn't mean he can't get it and pass
it around, Right, So I think I think that's a
good point. So the question you're really raising is a
COVID on one side, got the vaccine on the other. Right,
they both may have risks, Yeah, right, which risk do

(32:54):
you think is higher? Which one are you willing to take?
We don't know the long term impacts of COVID. I'm
already vaccine and I'm not anti vACC at all. I'm
just saying you're taking a risk you the way, right,
but I think you have to decide which is the
bigger risk here. And in the context of I think
we know, why doesn't anybody talk about the fact that
this time last year Democrats would have made people telling

(33:15):
folks not to take the vaccine, Like, when will liberal
media own up to the fact they are responsible for
a lot of people beings keptical. Well, you know, you're
you're right about this. There is always politics involved with things,
but it's not always the same politics. I mean, before
the pandemic, you may remember there were measles outbreaks that
were happening, and if you go back and you say, okay,

(33:36):
look who was it that was not vaccinating at that time,
it wasn't conservatives as much as it was liberals. It
was young liberal parents that were not vaccinating their children.
So there's always a politicalization of things. So it's agnostic.
I think, you know, to say, hey, look, it's always
these people who are anti science, are anti vacts or whatever.
That can change, but it doesn't make a right. The

(33:58):
worst thing that happened with this pandemic enduring a presidential
election year, because they did pull it aside that you
had you had now Vice President Kamala Harris, President Joe Biden,
then Governor Cuomo literally saying, who's going to take this vaccine?
Don't trust the see in the FDA, somebody else is
gonna have to tell it to take this vaccine. And
those clips now still get played over and over and
over and over. I know, it's it's it's it's tough,

(34:19):
Charloe man. I mean, I'm you know, I feel like
sometimes pushing a boulder uphill. I think there's there's there's
scientists who are who have been working on these vaccines
for a long time. I mean, I can I can
tell you that, you know, when it comes to these
side effects, which you rightly raise, you know, what are
the long term effects? What they find is that the
if there are side effects from vaccines, they almost always

(34:41):
occur within the first seven weeks of receiving a vaccine.
Almost always you said, side effects happen in the first
seven weeks. Yeah, So that that's why when you look
at these safety studies, they basically say, hey, look, we
want to follow these patients and the trials for at
least two months, because we know that the vast majority
of side effects occur within the first forty two days
for seven weeks. So that's when you now say, okay,

(35:04):
we feel comfortable with the safety data to say we
didn't see significant side effects after that, we are willing
to go ahead and authorize that. That's what happened last year.
By the way, you may remember this back and forth
that was going on where the President said, go ahead
and just get this thing out there. This was in
October of last year, early November of last year, right
before the election, and the FDA came back and said, hey, look,

(35:28):
this is how we've done things forever. We're gonna wait
for the safety data. We're not going to rush that
part of things. And that I think was a great
decision by the FDA. People said, hey, the FDA is
now politicizing this. They're waiting too long. They're gonna they're
not gonna authorize this until after the election. Well, the
issue was that the safety data wasn't coming back until
after the election. By the way, we've had some six

(35:50):
billion of these shots now given out around the world.
Six billion. I mean, what else has data like that
around the world. Six billion things. You know, Staton drugs.
There was adverse side effects y'all would know by now, Yes,
that's the thing. And they were finding things that were
really really rare, like I'm talking one in one hundred thousand,
one in a million sort of things they were finding. Correct,

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that was the big thing, the blood clots. I thought
that was an example of how the system should work.
They halted the trial for Johnson and Johnson. They said,
let's figure this out. And then once they realized that
the trials could continue, they went on, all right, we
have more with doctor Sanjay Gupta. When we come back.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, but she gonna slide

(36:35):
right on my side. I knowed it with a friend.
Then we skirt off in the bed. Everybody's DJ Envy
Angela Yee Chalomagne, the guy we ought to Breakfast Club
was still kicking it with doctor Sanjay Gupta Chalomagne. So
you can't like look at people and be like, oh
my god, why don't you getting your kids vaccinated? When
you know we're just getting this new information and we're

(36:56):
getting another information. We get a whole set another different
information for year and a half, I hear you, man,
I really do, and I guess for me, it's just
one of these things. Because I've been so immersed in it.
I've known children who've gotten sick, and I've known children
who didn't get that sick, but even months later, still
have symptoms. And when I say symptoms, I'm talking about

(37:16):
teenagers who have to take three or four hour naps
every day, these COVID naps that they call them. They
still complain of brain fog, they still have no taste,
they have headaches all the time. These were perfectly healthy
kids that didn't even get that sick. And again, I
think to myself, if that is largely preventable. And I'm
not going to say vaccines are one hundred percent effective,
that's another discussion, but they're so effective that why wouldn't I.

(37:40):
Why wouldn't I do this? I think sometimes, you know,
and it's no fault to use, just a human flaw.
When you're immersed in something, you just assume everybody else. Well,
I'm on TV, you know, talking about this all the time,
and I realized not everyone is watching the stuff, and
also people After a while, it gets depressing to hear
about a pandemic every day. They call it empathy fatigue.

(38:03):
If I tell you the story of one person with
this one particular problem, and I tell you their entire life,
and I tell you their story, you probably are to
watch that story and have a lot of compassion for
that person. But if I tell you that same story
ten times, it's not like you have ten times the
amount of compassion. You actually have the same amount of
compassion divided ten times. It's the same thing about the

(38:26):
aliens again. Why didn't we all come together here in
the beginning? You know, there was a study that came
out and said, hey, if everyone just wore a mask
when you go outside in public, if you do that,
you could be part of a movement that could save
forty thousand lives. That was a study that came out
sometime in the prior to that, Doctor Fauci, you didn't
have That's why why do we play these games like

(38:51):
we don't act like the people that we're listening too
hard to experts like yourself, like the doctor Fauci's didn't
put out this information at some point. Well, there is
an expectation that science is always going to be absolutely
certain from the beginning they think science is going to
be like math, that two plus two is always going
to equal four. Here's the deal. And again I think
the nuance of this is important. But the difference with

(39:12):
this virus is that we realized that people could spread
this virus even if they had no symptoms themselves. That's unusual.
And when that became clear in the spring of last year,
then it became clear that people should wear masks. But
I think that when it comes to scientific certainty, if
that's what you're demanding, you're probably never going to have that.

(39:34):
So why fire people like for instance, right, you are
a healthcare worker, you will work. And when there was
no ppe, you guys were out there, no vaccine were essential. Yes,
you were a phraise, we did parades, we bought you pizza,
We did all of that. You bought me pizza. So

(39:56):
now now when it comes to us and now some
of these healthcare workers don't want to take the vaccine, yea,
So now we fire them the same ones that were
our heroes and working with no vaccine and when nobody
was there, they were there. Mandates are they're tough? I
mean they're about those mandates. Well, I think that if
you're a healthcare worker and you're taking care of the
most vulnerable people and you could potentially be a source

(40:19):
of transmission. I think that's a problem. But do you
fire them? Do you put them into another division? Do
you just put them with a secretary. That's a good question.
Maybe maybe maybe they maybe they could be in a
position where they're not directly taking care of patients. Like,
let's put it this way. What if your loved one
was in the hospital and as a result of somebody
not being vaccinated in the hospital, You're loved one who's
already sick, already vulnerable, now gets COVID because a healthcare

(40:42):
worker transmitted it to them. Could you justify that? I mean,
do we I mean it's kind of like him. Maybe
not fire them. Had to get you had to get
checked before you came up in this building. Yeah you could.
You could. You could do testing and have it. You
could still test negative and have it. And by the way,
somebody who's vaccinating could have it as well and still
testing much have it. But that gets back to the
to the idea idea of risk. You're that's true, but

(41:02):
you're far less likely dj to to have it to
get it to transmit it if you've been vaccinated. If
you're demanding one hundred percent protection with anything probably in life,
you're not going to get it. What does that mean
you don't try at all? Yeah? What if a healthcare
worker was like, I don't want to wear gloves or
a mask because I don't feel like that really does
anything right. The vaccination is way different than gloves in

(41:23):
the mask. Some people feel differently about it because we
haven't been gotten we haven't been given to one hundred
percent facts. Everything changes, and you can understand why people
are a little weary because we don't know. Every week
something changes. We are all going through something that is
truly unprecedented together. This virus is new, So the idea
that we didn't know exactly how to handle it in
the beginning shouldn't really surprise anybody. Doctor. If more people

(41:46):
would have said that early on, even the experts, I
guarantee you you'd be seeing a different response from the
American public like, yeah, we don't know what this is.
But I feel like experts also didn't know, because I'm
sure you would getting new evidence and then realizing different things.
I think absolutely you know, and I think one of
the big ones. Was this idea that this virus would

(42:08):
spread asymptomatically, these silent carriers of the virus. What about
the variants? How much has that changed the course? That
changed things a lot, because we thought in many ways
going into the summer of last year that the numbers
were going to go down and they were going to
stay down. Typically, you know, viruses don't spread as well
when it gets hotter and more humid outside. But then

(42:29):
Delta and all of a sudden things started happening again.
Numbers started going up that would have been very hard
to predict. And we may have another variant. I will
tell you this. And again you guys are right to say, hey, look,
be skeptical of things. But we're following a lot of
these variants now. They are named for the letters of
the Greek alphabet, So Delta, we're going all the way
down to Mew and seeing are there other variants that

(42:51):
are of concern? And the good news is right now
it doesn't seem like there's ones that are going to
be as as contagious as Delta has been. But that
might be new information. Again, is it man made? Was
this made? Or I don't think so. I think the
vast majority of these pathogens jumped from animals to humans.
That's that's what we've seen, you know, seventy eighty percent
of the time. I mean, when you see something kind

(43:12):
of escape from a laboratory and the disease is named
after the laboratory had escape from, I mean, it's kind
of hardy named after them. What do you mean, virology.
I did a whole documentary about this, and I think
again we should ask questions about this. It is very

(43:35):
suspicious that the very place where this virus originated is
also the home of a big institute of virology. I
don't I don't think that changes the fact that most
most of these viruses typically jump from animals to humans.
The question has been had they already found this virus
and they were studying it in the lab and then
it escaped leaked from the lab as you as you say,

(43:56):
I think that's still something that people think is a possibility.
The real concern here is that we really don't have
any vision on what really happened in China. The World
Health Organization went into China, they did this study, and
they weren't even allowed inside the lab. There was a
database of these coronaviruses that was taken down in September

(44:17):
of twenty nineteen, just a couple months before, you know,
we really started to hear about this coronavirus. Where did
that database go? Why have we never seen it? Were
their lab workers who got sick? Have we been able
to investigate what happened to them? And the answer to
all those questions is no. And I think that it's
kind of like dealing with my teenage kids. They're not
telling me the truth on something. Does that mean they're

(44:38):
guilty of everything? I don't know. I mean, I think
they're hiding something, but I don't know that I'm ready
to say that they're guilty of everything. But I think
it's important because if we're serious about preventing this from
happening again, which I think we can do, by the way,
that's the most inspiring thing I learned over the last

(45:00):
two years is that what happened over the last two
years does not need to happen again. We have it
within our capabilities to essentially make our world pandemic proof,
and we need to do that. We're growing our population,
we're increasingly living with these pathogens. We're encroaching on their
habitat these viruses, and they've been here longer than us.
And as our population expands and we get into their

(45:21):
their their habitat, they're gonna these jumps from animals to
humans are going to happen more and more. But that
doesn't mean it has to turn into a devastating pandemic
like we just saw. All right, we have well with
doctor Sanjay Gupta. When we come back, it's to Breakfast Club,
Gomoni moning. Everybody's dj Envy Angela Yee Schalomne, the guy
we ought to Breakfast Club is still kicking it with

(45:42):
doctor Sanjay Gupta. Chalomi. What would y'all do differently next time?
I remember President Omama saying that we weren't ready for
a pandemic if it was to happen. Well, you know,
but at the same time, Charlomagne, the United States was
ranked number one in the world in terms of preparedness
against pandemics. And despite that we're four percent of the
world's population, we had twenty five percent of the world's cases.

(46:03):
So we blew it in this regard. There's lots of
things that we could do different. But the one thing
that I would say that I came to the conclusion
of is that I think we almost have to treat
this more like we treat Department of Defense, rather than
we treat weather like I think when we think about viruses,
we think, oh, this is like a hurricane. Nothing you
can do about it. Just shelter in place, let the

(46:24):
hurricane pass, and then survey the damage afterward. It doesn't
have to be that way. With defense. We basically say, Okay,
we're spending a ton of money on defense every year
for potential threats, and those threats may never come, and
people will say, well, you wasted a lot of money. Well, no,
we didn't waste money because we had the peace of
mind that we're constantly looking for these threats. I think

(46:46):
we have to treat potential pandemics the same way. What
does that do? It makes us very proactive. We're finding
those jumps as soon as they happen. We're working on
universal vaccines, we're funding all the laboratory work. But also
we don't have to litigate every decision afterwards. Should kids
get the vaccine, should we wear masks? These things just

(47:09):
go into place automatically because they're now part of how
we do things as a country. Do you think masks
are here to stay. I don't think they're here to say,
but I think they may come and go. Like we
see in other countries around the world, other countries when
you go into a respiratory virus season where there's a
lot of you know, viruses transmitting, especially in the winter months,
people are more likely to wear masks. And if we

(47:30):
did that, it would help with this particular pandemic, but
it also helped with things like flu. This gets back
to the same thing about the compassion, like what are
we willing to tolerate? I think that's what this is
going to come down to. Sixty thousand people die of
flu every year. We don't have to have sixty thousand
people die of flu. Yeah, we don't have to have
all the people dives. You know, cigarettes were not to
have all the people die of poverty. We don't have

(47:51):
to have all the people die at least brutality like
America's like, that's a tough question to ask America. What
are we willing to tolerate? Clearly a lot it's a
sad I don't I'm an optimistic guy. I'm black. Maybe
I would love to have that optimism. I listen to
sounds of blackness of optimism. Here does that get better? Charloman,

(48:12):
I don't know it was until like over the past,
you know, four or five years. I really think disinformation
is going to really like be the death of us
in a lot of ways. I really think social media
is is that dangerous because of situations like this, Because
when there are matters of life or death like this
pandemic was, what is the objective? Like? Is it just
to create chaos? Is it just to so doubt? Like

(48:34):
if I go on, if I go online and I
say a new car, I'm searching for a new car,
and I get a bunch of forward ads. I kind
of get that they're trying to sell me a forward,
But why do people what's the purpose of just creating chaos?
Let me ask you. People are contrarians and they like
to be contrary to things, and they don't trust government.
And what about people who aren't what about political pundits

(48:54):
on CNN? And you got a lot of backlash because
you know, you admitted that CNN was wrong for labeling
a horse to warmer. Well, look again, this is one
of those nuanced sort of things. And I think the
situation there just and I think a lot of people
know this, is that there was this belief that iver
mechtin was a medication that could treat COVID. There was

(49:16):
no evidence to support that, but all of a sudden,
there were a lot of people out there wanting ivermectin.
Their doctors were not prescribing it for them because it
was not approved or authorized for that. So what did
people do? They went and received the veterinary formulations of this.
So that's why it got labeled to horste Warmer. That
wasn't made up out of whole cloth. Why do you
say they were wrong, because there's another form of what

(49:38):
I didn't say. They were wrong. What I said so
I was talking to Joe Rogan. In Joe's case, he
got the prescription from a doctor, so he wasn't taking
the veterinary form of the medication. The human form of
the medication is a well known medication and it's very
good at treating parasites. But just like we saw with
hydroxy chloroquine early on, there was no evidence that hydroxychloroquine work.

(50:00):
It took time to prove that, and seeing the same
thing with ivermectin, how close are we defining like a
cure or maybe some type of treatment you can take
once you do get cold, because I've heard there's several
things on the market that they've been testing that look promising. Yeah,
I mean just even just a couple hours ago, Fiser
just announced another a potential therapeutic, something that you would

(50:22):
take if you got COVID to reduce the likelihood that
you would get sick. So this is different than a vaccine, again,
which is still preferable because I do believe that it's
best not to get the virus in the infection in
the first place. But there's two things now out there.
Fiser just announced this today and Murk has something as well.
It's available for people. Merciless Merk's already out. The Fiser

(50:43):
one has the data just came out today. There they're
going to be a FDA's reviewing it, they say maybe
by the end of the year. So pill, what is
the pill? It's called Malno pure Viewer. It's a it's
an anti viral. I mean, you know, we would think
about antibiotics a lot, and that's for bacterial infections. There
aren't as many anti virals for viral infections. With all
the money that we spend in all his research, whether

(51:04):
it's HIV and AIDS, or it's cancer or somebody the
other diseases and viruses that we don't have cures from it,
that doesn't seem strange. It seems like we have the
smartest scientists, we have the best technology. I hear you,
but you know, I gotta just just as somebody who
is a doctor myself. People that'll be like, the reason
they are is there really is one, but the money's

(51:25):
in the treatment. But I look at it differently because
like HIV AIDS, we've been trying to get a vaccine
for forty years. I mean the fastest of the vaccines's
ever been developed is four years. So the fact that
they got a vaccine as quickly as they did, some
people say, well, they rushed it. That's obviously a bad vaccine.
Other people will say, well, man, that was our moonshot.
We didn't think you know, it could happen. Look you know,

(51:52):
But I mean stuff like that does make people skeptical.
Does it make you skeptical or does it make it
something we're celebrating too? Can't we celebrate the recodism answers
to science? So it should be faster. I agree, So
trump in Operation wolf Speed should get a lot of credit.
They should, they should, and we and you know, look,
I did a whole documentary. I think the the developers
of these mRNA vaccines may receive a Nobel Prize for this.

(52:13):
You know, some of these scientists have been working on
this for decades. People say, well, this was rushed. Well, actually,
the technology behind messenger RNA m RNA vaccines, it's been
worked on for a long time. So how much credit
to Trumpet? I think he should get a lot of credit.
He got a lot of flak. Well, I think it
was flack. I think a little bit came from the
fact that why didn't he embrace the vaccine? It was

(52:34):
he tried to remember he tried, he tried to name
it after himself. Remember did he do that? I really
hell yeah, But he didn't take I mean he didn't,
he didn't publicly take it. I should say he eventually
took the vaccine. I don't know. Again, thought he was
trying to take all the credit. I wasn't missed that
because I thought he was part of it. I think,
if you've done this, he's trying to get it out
before he election. You said that early in interview. I yeah, no, no,

(52:56):
that that's the thing. There was all these sort of
conflicting messages. You know, we did it, we at it,
and it was great. Now let's get it out there.
But then it became like everything else so politicized. Every name.
One thing that did not get politicized, masks, vaccines, these
therapeutics you're talking about DJ they'll get politicized. They already are. Hey,
why would you take that instead of the vaccine, ivermectin.

(53:18):
Everything gets I can't think of one thing that did
not get politicized in this entire pandemic, and it's heartbreaking
in a way. I agree. How would you tell people
to handle this holiday season? I don't know. If you're
gonna like it, don't tell us. I think the vaccine.
There are people who are going to be getting together
with their loved ones, which I think is fantastic. I'm
looking forward to this myself with my kids and my parents.

(53:39):
They're going to be indoors because the weather's cooler around
most of the country. They're going to be snuggling in close.
It's the holidays, you know, and watching movies together on
the couch. Whatever you do and the idea that you
can feel the most comfortable that someone around you is
not potentially going to transmit the virus to somebody who's vulnerable.
I think is really important, and I think the vaccine

(54:02):
is our best bet at doing that. This week, five
to eleven year olds can start getting it now, So
seven weeks from now start that's right. Yeah, no, that's
exactly right. So now and then three weeks is the
next shot, and then you'd be considered you'd be considered
vaccinated two weeks after that, so potentially five weeks from
now you could be considered vaccinated. Well, doctor the Sun

(54:22):
Jake that we appreciate you. That was a great conversation.
I know you gotta run, but thank you so much.
What a pleasure. Thanks for having me. It's the Breakfast Club,
Good Mornings. This is the rule of report with Angela. Well.
Congratulations to Nori and DJ e F and Drink Champs.

(54:43):
The episode of Kanye West made history for revolt. So
according to the Chief brand Officer of Combs Enterprises, Dion Graham,
we're both long term partnership with Drink Champs is a
perfect example that we are more powerful together when we
use our platforms to control our narrative and give the
voices shaping our culture the freedom to create unapologetically. And

(55:04):
Nori said, yeah, they say an interview of the year. Yea,
they also calling me, calling me Nori yaga the y'alla
getting to the YadA y'alla. To many views to count
I'm gonna stay home and drink guarda praise God dropping
for drink Champs three million views and counting. Love it Yeah,
number one on the Apple Music Podcast Charts. Two men,

(55:25):
go check that out on the Black Effect I Heart
Radio podcast network. All right, now, some responses to that
interview have been coming in all weekend, So let's start
with Soldier Boy responding. Now. As you recall, so, Dubois
was not happy to be left off of Kanye's Donda album,
and when he was on with Academics, he had him

(55:45):
read some of the messages that Kanye sent to him.
Draco returned it finished a five thirty the next day. Okay, like,
listen twenty four hours, this is ya gassing and now yo,
Kanye pushed so much aid and zas and ease. I
feel you feel you know what somebody gas you. Well,

(56:12):
it was a different story when Kanye was on Drink Champs.
Here's what he said about leaving Soldier Boy off. The
album with Soldier Boy is top five most influential. It's like,
take them off your album. You didn't hear that verse? Nope,
he was apparently man the verse Noah, But I'll tell
you what though, Soldier Boy is the future though. That's

(56:34):
why you have to send Kanye healing energy. Kanye is
a true Gemini. Kanye will say that you know, behind
the scenes the Soldier Boy, but then publicly say something else.
All right, well, Soldier Boy has responded to what Kanye
said on Drink Champs and Soldier Boy fashion that was cy,

(56:55):
you've nothing a baby with a mother. Soldier Boy is
the future. Shut the come can you talk? And you
said my first wasn't hard, dude, Everything to come out
my mother and mouth is hard. What did you talking about? West?
Yo album was trash just because it's your album? Know me,

(57:16):
you get the pick with them. It's hard and what
put it out and let the people decide what the
it's hard? He say, who cuts your hair? Man? Forget that?
I know you isolated that for me, Dan, you know
what I need From that point we know what you need,
all right was a wild in addition to see that
big sean um. Well, there's a lot of responses. Hey,

(57:38):
let's talk about jfs Blade first. Now, Kanye was on
Drink Champs and he called Jess Blade is a copycat
Swiss Beat or Jess Blades or Swiss Beast definitely because
Jess Blade is a copycat. You know, he gets credit
for the blueprint and I did the first half of
the blueprint and he just copied my half and got
I mean, look look where I'm out today, Look where
he had today. Jessinst egregious thing he said in that
whole that's hate like Jess Blade sounds like nobody, not

(58:01):
at all. Well, if you recall just Blaze did respond
on social media. He said he was addressing a public
publicly because it was stated publicly. And he goes on
to say that Kanye did reach out to collaborate on
various projects, including a collaborative project that he was looking
for me to handle a good amount of you know
who else responded Jay Z he was doing a live
Twitter chat to discuss the Herder they Fall, and here's

(58:23):
what he had to say on that chat. The Jus
Blaze thing was a bit unfair because if you're making
an album and the assignment and soul samples, everyone's coming
with soul, You're trying to make a cohesive piece of music.
I don't think anyone was copping off any you know,
bank has this problem, and you know the baby was
the blueprint, and I think everyone should be prized for

(58:44):
what we created. My guy Kas asked that question to
drop on a clues box from My Man Cast. In
addition to a Beanie seagull is saying that Kanye promised
him some money. Now, when Kanye was on Drink TAMPT,
he did say he owes Beanie Seagull money. I still
owe need money and I've been trying to give him
this money for a minute. He's gonna get the money.
He gonna get the money. Henna, Yeah, because really, how

(59:07):
do you own money? Though? I don't want to because
he made up the name easy. Well, here's what Beanie
Seagull had to say about that millions to one point
some a buildings check for wow, So cut the check.

(59:33):
I don't want a million dollars and five percent stock
and yeasy, I don't want to hear the lip service
from Kanye I want to hear him actually cut the check.
Cut the check for Beanie because you know now it
was public. Now like that can be using the call
the law right he said he owes the money. He
didn't say that. I'm not that I'm talking I'm talking
about the amount, but the fact that he did say
Beanie Seagull created this name, so that that could be

(59:53):
using to call the law paper. Run that man his money.
But it just doesn't say what amount he'll he'll give him.
That's the only thing, all right, Well, that is your
rumor reports. Can I hear the soldier boy thing one time? Though?
Everything come out the mouth is hard? So you care
about man drop when the clues bobs with Soldier boy
Man Soldier, it's so damn entertaining, so you can't care

(01:00:17):
about this. By the way, the podcast is now a
six million in counting for a revolt. That's huge. No,
you'd be listening. I don't know how he does it
heart radio app head for I'm just saying he's always listening.
I don't know how he's up running the morning, does
his job in the morning. He got her. We're gonna

(01:00:39):
do the marathon together. Man. The marathon was in New
York City this weekend. We got to start training now,
all right, who are giving that? Don't? Man? You know,
we hear stories about police officers torturing people in jail cells,
but this, this is by far, this is one of
the worst I've ever heard. Man. We'll talk about it
for after the hour. The Oklahoma office is from the

(01:01:00):
Oklahoma County Jail. Need to come to the front of
the congregation. We like that have the world with them,
all right, We'll get to that. Next. It's the Breakfast Club.
Come on, so Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be
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(01:01:48):
of my twenty three years, but Donkey of the Day
is a new wife. Yeah, Donkey today for Monday, November eighth,
goes to officers at the Oklahoma County Jail. The officers
names a sheriff, Tommy Daunching. The third who else is
named in this lawsuit the Border County Commissioners, the Jail Trust,
and two former jail officers. Now they are being sued
because they're being accused of failing to adequately train and

(01:02:11):
supervise its officers. Now, these officers have a history of
mistreatment well known to supervisors, but no actions were taken
to stop them. Now, inmates to jail in Oklahoma said
they were subjected to cruel and inhumane punishment of federal
civil rights lawsuit alleged successive force describing the discipline tactics
is torture events. Oh, it's just hard to even talk about. Look,

(01:02:32):
it's no secret we've seen people, especially black people and
brown people, people of color, torture in these jail cells.
I think it would happen to Jamal Sutherland and to
Charleston County Jail. I think about Daggett County Jails and
Utah some years ago and how the Utah Department of
Correction settled lawsuits with former prisoners because one of the
former guards, Joshua Cox. According to lawsuits required prisoners to

(01:02:53):
submit to being shocked and bitten by attack dogs in
order to keep their jobs working out the prison fences.
Sometimes they would abuse inmates if they simply wanted to
return to their cells. Cots would taunt the prisoners, calling
them the B word and the P word. They would
wrestle with them and choked them out. Just in humane
conditions all across the board, and the same thing it's

(01:03:15):
happening at the Oklahoma County Jail. In fact, what these
inmates at the Oklahoma County Jail had to endure, no
human should have to endure. If you're easily triggered, take
a deep breath. Don't let the traumedies inmates experience sit
in your body too long. Another deep breath through the
nose and hail out the mouth, and let's go to

(01:03:38):
k f O r NBC four for the report. Police
raf were inmates to file a federal lawsuits saying they
were forced to listen to baby Shark at the Oklahoma
County Jail. You know the song Do Do Do? Civil
rights liars filed the lawsuit this week against the Oclaoma
County Commissioners. Sheriff Tommy John said the jail trust and
two former jailers Attorneys described the supplint tactics as torture.

(01:04:02):
A criminal investigation last year determined four inmates were subjected
to the Baby Shark song in an attorney visitation room
in November and December. These officers forced inmates forston inmate
in particular, name Joseph Mitchell, into a standing scress position
for three to four hours while handcuffed behind his back,

(01:04:24):
and then played Baby Shark on loop, made him listen
to the song over and over a while physically rescreened
in the attorney visitation room. These people are evil. Man.
Cruel is not a strong enough word to describe what
these folks have done. I realized this morning that I
have PTSD because of Baby Sharks. He Baby Shark torture
his parents. When we willingly let our kids listen to it,
at some point you have to turn it off. Do

(01:04:46):
you know how much I heard my second oldest who's
now six, leaning into that damn machine? What's that machine?
And you said, you said, Google, what's that thing called?
The Google played that's what it's called Alexa. So I
wasn't Alexa. They wasn't. I don't know that you just
leaned into it and say Google play baby shock. Okay,
like oh and that and me being prepared to listen

(01:05:06):
to it. You know, I already knew it was gonna
be scressful, So imagine being forced. There's nothing more terrifying
than hearing this is apparent listen play it play. Oh
stop stop, stop stop stop. Let's just listening to that, dude,
didn't you just knew it was about to be coming
and listening to it over and over and over again,

(01:05:27):
red let it, let it ride one time for the
one time. Oh baby checked it, din baby checked it?
Her baby shock this one time? Slap that first you

(01:05:53):
start shoot stop shop he shot, shot, shot, shark all right,
now getting I ain't getting more smaller shot. Imagine being
a house for six. We have a house of six
now shot all right, everybody got to get a mama

(01:06:16):
show show a right, older daughter show, Seon Mottershoft, third
daughter show. Now you got family? All right? He's then stopping, no,
stop and stop it, no more hope. How long it
has been ready, how long has it been? How long
has it been? It hasn't even been a minute thirty
seconds all we imagine three to four hours of this

(01:06:38):
over and over and over and over and over and
over and over again. Che oh my god, all right,
this is not cruel and unusual punishment. Please give these
officers at the Oklahoma County Jail the biggest he huh

(01:07:00):
oh man Christ three to four hours. They did that
in a clockwork iarns. Did you see that movie? That
was kind of the rehab they did to him in
a clockwork arms. Listen to baby shop they made listening
to Beethoven over and over and over again, so whenever
he was um and well, you got to see it. Yeah,
he ended up that and let it go the kids,

(01:07:22):
let it go? Not no more? Oh my gosh, but
let it go. Ain't one of them songs that you're
gonna play over and over if our kids play it
over and over and over. They got the little letter
go karaoke pocketbook thing where they sing into it. Oh
my gosh. I might have threw that out the window
one day. Oh my god, let it go. Can't holding
back anymore? Let it You don't sing that, dude, just

(01:07:44):
doesn't sound right when you sing it. I do sing it.
I have no choice. I know about heart, all right, Jesus,
all right, where you wanna go from here. I have
no idea. Whatever you do, just let it go. What okay?
Everything coming out with my mother? Your mouth is hard?

(01:08:04):
All right, that's the greatest line of ball. All right, Well,
let's Monday. Let's land to the breakfast club. I hate
you guys. Anything that comes out of my mouth is hard.
Let it go. Eight hundred five five one on five one.
Let's land to the breakfast club. All right, we haven't
done this in a while. Open up the phone, huns right,
something that you don't like about me? Ye, or Charlemagne?
Eight hundred five eight five one on five. Why. The

(01:08:28):
one hour loop of baby Shark on YouTube has been
viewed over one hundred and twenty seven million times. Y'all
just trying to keep your kids occupied. Put the kids
in a little play pains me a little thirty minute? Now,
just give me about thirty I've been there before, all right.
Sland to the breakfast Club is next? Eight hundred five
eight five one on five. One is the breakfast club?

(01:08:49):
Good morning, the breakfast club, the breakfast club, humble slaming
the breakfast class her dark? Hello? What's this? What's good?
Breakfast club? My name is James I'm a mining Napolis.

(01:09:09):
James talked to us. I gotta slant of y'all. Man,
you and them Charlemagne the bed brother, Why are you
slaying us? What grown man gives another grown man the
more of? They asked for a president that's so old, bro,
I don't get it. And then you're playing with him.
Y'all got to come out that clothing. Man. I think you,

(01:09:30):
I think you. I think you just upset because everything
that comes out of my mouth is hard. That's what
I think you upset about. You didn't do your job.
Na brother, Nah brother, Nah brother, nah brother, don't let
it out your mouth. Hello, who's this hard? Uncle Willie?
Uncle Willy? What up? God? Brother? Slant the breakfast club?
Go on, good morning, Good morning from the seven five seven, Virginia, VA.

(01:09:54):
What's happening? What's going on? Yes, sir, nobody knows you
are here. What are you talking of the real? What
are you talking about? I know, I know. I'm trying
to get myself known out in Hampton, Virginia, where I
went to school for four and a half years, five years.
I'm trying. Hello, who's this good morning? Slam at the
breakfast club? Okay, Okay, So I want to talk about

(01:10:16):
her ugly, how I don't like silent? I like, I
want to say happy birthday, you like all love what's
her name? What's her name? What's her name? Saniel? Happy

(01:10:37):
born Daysonaya Samis. I'm sitting there like, I know this
grown woman ain't calling up here with these whack ass
third grade and so you ugly and you sanky. She's like, no,
but I do gotta give a bathday shot. And then
you forgot to say her name? No, I okay, Gay,
you got it? Thank you, Mama. Hello, who's this yo? So?
What's up? Man? I got slam at the breakfast club?

(01:10:59):
Y'all want to slim the ends of the years? For
that rumor for Kanye was that sound bite? Man? There
was no positive SoundBite to that rumor report. And I
was very inspired by that interview. I was kind of confused,
you always played negative conbite. Well, we just played the
responses from the celebrities and people that he was talking about.
But he did say those things in the interview, correct, Yeah,

(01:11:20):
But he also talks about stock ownership, I owning braids,
like you know what I'm trying to say? Like I
felt like y'all, y'all singles on the ebity gossip. You
got a point. I mean, it is about guys. He's
not wrong, though, but that's just the way the news is.
Like you know, they all used to say back in
the day, if it bleeds, it leads, and like you know,

(01:11:41):
even with even with social media, the algorithms that you know,
move the most or the negative one sadly, but I
don't He's not wrong. You're not wrong. I got you.
When I saw that interview, I was super inspired. But
I feel y'all know what y'all saying. It's about the
number of time. But the be but the bean the
Beanie part wasn't wasn't um negative, Like you know, the

(01:12:03):
fact that Beanie Seagull created the word jeezy and that
he old Beanie some money. I don't think that was negative.
That was definitely positive. I was definitely positive, But majority
was negative though the John legend, the big Sean so
about the celebrity guy for mainly, but the big Beanie
one was definitely was definitely all good. But also too
Kanye knows that if you get in the interview and

(01:12:25):
you give a lot of those sound bites where you
getting that Ti Leave quality. You're getting that Big Sean,
You're getting that John legend. Whoever you getting that, that's
gonna that's gonna eclipse all the positive stuff you may
have said. We'll have a going man. Slander the Breakfast
Club eight hundred five eight five one or five one
slander the breakfast club caller, Snap, it's the breakfast clung
goal morning the breakfast club humble was slanting the Breakfast

(01:12:47):
Club down her dark? Hello? Who's this man? You need
to give out the sources? Struggling man, do some this
tattoo they tell us to do, you know, hold extras

(01:13:08):
that want used? Podcast? Man? But if this ain't working,
no know what I mean? I don't know what you well?
You mean? Why why do you think it's a secret.
Just go to the paint stall, get you some black
paint and a brush and dip it in the can
and just slap it all over your face. Why do
you lie to that? Man? Hello? Who's this? Hi? This

(01:13:29):
is Cadia calling from Detroit. What's first? What I'm dope?
Breakfast Club? I gotta go for Charlotte. Man, Charlotte, I
love you, you know, like you have a gentle place
in my heart. Because you're just as real estate. Come,
but I need you to get your eyebrowts together, sir.
Everybody wax. Everybody says I got amazing. Trust they real

(01:13:54):
day day day probably, so it's flaky. So just come
to Detroit and we're gonna get you to you'm micro blading.
He did micro blade them before. I've never done that.
What am I? What am I supposed to do with him? Though?
I mean like like I got thick, I got thick eyebrows,
so I love a thick eyebrows. Pasages just too much,
it's too much. I'm not touching. You got your eyebrows

(01:14:17):
done before. Bro, I'm not touching. I've never I've no,
I have not got them done in my adult life. Together,
It's okay, we love you. Yeah. When I when I
was a kid, some women gasped me up to get
my eyebrows arts because it was like Tupac got his
eyebrows arch and so I got myney Yeah, let up
in the mound and they did them thin too, like

(01:14:39):
I had to thin. Look at looking crazy as hell?
I don't. You're definitely at the eyebrows. Hello, who's this? Hi?
This westpter Her, Hey, good morning, slander the breakfast club.
I want to plan that. Arewe not really slanned to her?
But I just wanted to let her know, like, um,
I I'm comfort what we're talking about sex, and I

(01:15:01):
would love to come on her show because there's so
much more in rest of sub sex that she can
talk about on her show. What do you want to
talk about the LGBTQ community, the lifestyle community. I even
DMed you like some of the videos that I've done
on another show to tell you that I would love
to come on and give you my perspective about the

(01:15:22):
whole lifestyle community and whatnot. Okay, that's the plan. You know,
we welcome everybody on the show to talk about whatever
when it comes to sex. Okay, I'm very excited. I
would love to come on. I think I would be
a great I just said the personality and everything and
just to enlighten people about a lot more. Anyway, Okay,
hold on, Okay, let's get your number. Hello. Who's this?

(01:15:42):
This is Camille? Missus Cookovids damn missus Keka. Why are
you upset? I am upset because Sean Mary, they messed
up my whole thought. This morning. I woke up listening
to Erica Badu and here he got one to play,
Baby Shark, listen to that? And though I know, but
I was trying to prove a point because these officers

(01:16:02):
in Oklahoma were torturing the inmates by playing that song
over and over. That's all he said. You want to
hear it again? You ain't have to play in sorrow.
You did not have to play. You want to hear
it again? Hey, what boy do record? Week? What boy
do record? Did you listen to this morning? I can
tell you the one I do. I used to set
my attention, But what's yours? I listened to? Didn't you know?
Every morning? I love that too? You know what else
I love? I love the Healer off the New America. Okay, baby,

(01:16:27):
now you better go now if I let that baby
shot rip, let it rip red, go play. Oh my god,
you do the mo slammed to the Breakfast Club eight
hundred five eighty five one five four. Now we got
rumors on the way, Yes, and let's talk a daytime
TV who was taking over this week for Wendy Williams
and Wenna talk about somebody else who has a show
in the works allegedly. All right, we'll get into that. Next,

(01:16:48):
it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, it's about this is
the rumor report. Angela Gees on the Breakfast Club. All right, Well,
Wendy Williams is still on hiatus. According to a statement,
it is because of her Graves disease in her thyroid condition,

(01:17:09):
and so she does need some more time before she
can return. In the meantime, Michael Rappaport is going to
be serving as a guest host for part of the
week this week, and then Bill Bellamy will be taking over.
So I saw some people were going in and saying
they want Sherry Shepherd back and they really enjoyed her.
So I saw people on Instagram, we want Sherry hosting

(01:17:30):
until Wendy's return. Bring back Sherry, We want Sherry, Wendy.
Producers do better, so on and so forth. But again,
Michael Rappaport starts today. Cherry's always good dude. Sharry hosted
it before I think the first time when she went
on hiatus. Y Rys dope. So people love seeing her
on there. Who knows that daytime experience from the viewer.

(01:17:50):
And Jennifer Hudson is in talks to get a syndicated
daytime talk show and they're saying this could premiere in
the fall of twenty twenty two, so that could be exciting.
And the Ellen Degenerous show is rapping at the end
of its current season and we're looking for new things,
So potentially Jennifer Hudson could be coming into the mix

(01:18:11):
and seeing her syndicated. All right, And speaking of TV,
master P has a series coming that's going to be
showcasing his life that is in the works right now.
According to the release, the story of master P is
not the typical rack to riches rapper story. Percy Robert
Miller was not a dealer or an addict or a gangbanger.
What Percy learned from the streets was the hustle, making

(01:18:31):
him an uber savvy entrepreneur with an empire worth eight
hundred million dollars. This series follows Percy as he pursues
a pro basketball career to escape the hood, to blowing
out his knee and reinventing himself, founding No Limit, and
becoming Master P, one of the biggest hip hop artists
of all time. So I think that's an interesting show
to watch. MASTERP a series on his life. I'm here

(01:18:52):
for it, all right. And Will Smith is detailing the
biggest regret that he had while raising his son, Jaden.
You know, his book is coming out tomorrow, and so
he talks about his film After Earth, so it details
his co starring experience with Jaden Smith. Jaden was only
fifteen years old. He had also started the remake of
Karate Kid, which was a success and the pursuit of happiness.

(01:19:13):
But the budget for After Earth was one hundred and
thirty million dollars. The film only made twenty seven million
dollars during the opening weekend, and according to will Smith,
the critiques of fans and the press was vicious and
there was a public malling of his son and his book.
He wrote, After Earth was an abysmal box office and
critical failure. And what was worse was that Jaden took
the hit. Fans and the press were absolutely vicious. They

(01:19:36):
said and printed things about Jaden that I refused to repeat.
Jaden had faithfully done everything that I'd instructed him to do,
and I had coached him into the worst public malling
he'd ever experienced. Then he found out that his son
wanted to be emancipated. At fifteen, Jaden had felt betrayed.
He lost trust and his dad. He said that the pain,
he said, we never discussed it, but I know he
felt betrayed, he felt misled, He lost his trust in

(01:19:58):
my leadership. At fifteen years old, when Jaden asked about
being an emancipated mind, and my heart shattered. He ultimately
decided against it. But it sucks to feel like you've
hurt your kids. Number One, I can't wait to read
Will's book. I'm actually pausing on reading anything until that
book comes. I ordered it last week. It should be
here today. But secondly, I wonder how Jaden feels about
that now, because failure is just a part of life.

(01:20:19):
I know what I mean. I don't even remember that more.
I remember after. But I'm just saying, like, like, failure
is just a part of life. You're going to throw
some things against the wall sometimes and they knock on stick.
So I wonder if now that he's older, as he
understand that. I'm sure he understands that now. But at
that age fifteen and then everything else had been successful.
You're not used to that, you know, so I'm sure
it wasn't easy. All right, Now, let's talk about Lakeith Stanfield.

(01:20:41):
He said he has anxiety stemming from the harder they
fallen from filming that he posted on Instagram that he
had crippling anxiety and drank every night after work while
filming for that, and so he had spoken in the
past about having difficulties with his roles and dealing with anxiety.
So have y'all seen the Heart of Their Fall yet?
It's really really good. I watched it twice already, watch

(01:21:03):
this week too. I'm not gonna lie. It's an amazing movie.
So I highly suggest everybody watch that. I'm sending Laki
Stanfield healing energy too. He hope. Well. I saw him
say he's talking to a therapist. So all right, now,
Howard University dean and former actress Felicia Rashade people were
upset about this video that had surface. Now they're interviewing

(01:21:24):
both Felicia Rashad, who is the dean of the College
of Fine Arts, and her sister, Debbie Allen, and they're
Debbie Allen, by the way, is a former Howard graduate,
and they're talking about the students basically protesting because they
want better housing, clean a cleaner environment. And here is
what was said. We know what the Howard student body

(01:21:44):
means in any country, when the students don't speak out
for the nation is not doing well. When when of
the students do speak out and the concerns have been
addressed and it's still amount enough, what about that? Oh well,
that's a whole love thing. What school in right now?
So are there is being addressed? Okay, let's come inside.

(01:22:06):
If you lost questions, why will you be telling them now?
She said, the concerns were addressed. Yes, she's saying that
is what happened. That's a Felicia Rashad said, And then
she tells the reporter. When the reporter asked, so the
concerns of being addressed, she said, I wouldn't get into
that if I were you. So people were upset and
they said that it was disappointing that she's not on

(01:22:26):
the side of the kids being able to express themselves
and get some answers. And why there's mold, why there's
rodents scurrying around about the leakages and conditions in the dorms,
I'm initial understanding because they were they were former students,
so they wouldn't have want to live in those conditions.
And she's the dean there. You know, you got to
represent for the students too. They're the ones everybody works for, right,

(01:22:47):
They're the ones paying the tuition. All right, well that
is your rumor report. All right. We invited him or
the president of Howard up. I haven't heard anything back,
but I'd love to have him and the students up
here to talk about it. Hopefully we can get too
kind of resolution. Has he spoken to the students yet?
I don't think so. I don't think so. I know
when when Hampton was going through that, you know, the

(01:23:07):
president at the time, I spoke to him and we
tried to get the students in between, and they got
things right. So all right, well shout to a vote.
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Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining
us this morning. We have Jody Lewis and attorney Darryl K. Washington.

(01:23:49):
Good Morning More. Now, this case in particular was horrifying
to hear as a woman, I would love for you
to just break down what happened with me and Marcano.
We discussed this on the Breakfast Club, and now we
want to get some of the particulars from you as
working for the family, as the publicist, and as the attorney. Well,
I can tell you this has probably been one of

(01:24:10):
the most horrifying stories in cases that I've had to
deal with. To receive a telephone call from the family,
especially the mother and father telling me that they're searching
for their daughter and not getting any type of feedback
from the law enforcement officials. You know, when you look
at this case, this is just what you call the

(01:24:34):
perfect storm. The family had all the information that would
have given the law enforcement of the agencies the information
needed in order to arrest the suspect, but they were
just totally ignored. Just to see the mother and father
come face to face with the suspect, the person who
took their daughter's life. Was probably one of the most hardest,

(01:24:56):
one of the hardest things I've ever had to experience.
But the one thing that really sticks out with me
is the sheriff deputy told the witnesses when they were
explaining to him who who was to suspect in this case.
Eight the sheriff deputy said that this case was not
a high priority and as you know, every second matters

(01:25:18):
with this case. With these type of cases, Mia was
found seven to eight days later, and the question still remains,
when was Mia killed, how was she killed, and when
was she actually killed. So we're still trying to get
answers to these questions. We have not gotten the cause
of death, we have not gotten the time of death.

(01:25:40):
They're still trying to get this to the family. So
as you can imagine, the family is still dealing with
the trauma of all of this. So she lived in
this apartment complex right just to start from the beginning,
and she worked in the apartment complex as well, she did, right, yes,
and this is how she met this guy. So, as

(01:26:00):
you know, being a co employee with someone, everybody changed
phone numbers just to be friendly with each other. But
this guy was sort of obsessed with Mia. I mean,
he started with the long text messages telling her how
he wanted to date her, offering her money, and these
were things that she just totally rejected. She had no

(01:26:22):
interest in this guy at all. She told her friends,
she told her families as well as her employer. But
but sadly, the employer did not do anything to protect
me in this type of situation. And he also had
access to her apartment. Correct, That's correct, And that is
the thing that should have never happened. When you just

(01:26:44):
do a general search as this guy background, you see
so many hits that come up. This guy had full
possession of the master keep off that allowed him unfeathered
access not only in Miya's apartment, but all the tenants apartments.
And to tell you a little bit about the art
and villas, this apartment complex is about five minutes away

(01:27:06):
from the University of Central Florida, So the majority of
the tenants at that apartment complex or college students, so
it was it becomes the perfect background for a predator
like Amando who took MIA's life. Yeah, I mean, honestly,
this was just horrifying for us to hear. And I

(01:27:26):
saw that me as roommate also spoke out and had
her own account of what the relationship was. Yes, me
as a roommate, and I tell you she really gave
the family an idea of exactly what happened. If you
look at the press release that was released by the
Orange County sheriffs Office as well as the press confidence

(01:27:47):
that Sheriff Mina gave, he clearly came out in defense
of his sheriff's deputy. He stated on the number of
occasions that the sheriff's deputy didn't see anything at that
apartment that would allayed him to believe that that was
apartment was a crime scene, and that totally conflict that
what the witnesses gave the sheriff deputy on the morning
that they were talking to him. Number One, the first

(01:28:10):
thing that should have been a sign that there was
a major problem. There was a dresser that was a
propped against the door that did not allow anyone to
enter into a miss room. That alone should have told
the sheriff's deputy, coupled with the complaints that he was
getting from the family, that we need to get people
out here immediately to investigate what it's gone on. This

(01:28:33):
sheriff's deputy was very cavalier with the entire situation. He
didn't dust the windows for fingerprints, he didn't collect any evidence.
There was a security guard that was out there that
told the sheriff deputy that listen, you need to dust
this window to see if there are fingerprints. He didn't
do this. But here Angelus one of the worst situations

(01:28:55):
that could have possibly happened. I remember, this guy had
the key fa to getting MIA's apartments. All the all
the manager had to do was come to the apartment
complex when she was contacted, used the technology that they
had from this key fall, and they could have told
the shaff's deputy immediately who went into this apartment. This

(01:29:17):
manager failed to come out to the apartment to assist
with the search for Mia, and sadly, today no one
from that apartment complex have reached out to the family
to offer their condolences. So it just shows you that
we're dealing with an apartment complex that places profits over safety. Now,

(01:29:38):
when we talk about Armando Caballero, right, he's the man
who killed Mia and then killed himself. So he did
have a background record. He did not only did he
have a criminal background, record, but he had a history
at other apartment complexes. We've received so many telephone calls
about this this guy. The last apartment that he was

(01:30:02):
working at prior to going to the Art and Villas,
this guy had actually taken await and thrown into the
door of a young lady's apartment trying to get in
He's actually he was actually in someone's apartment when the
lady got out of the shower and he was there
and they all complained about this guy and management. Instead

(01:30:22):
of management do something about it, the management blame the tenants.
This guy would then disappear from that apartment complex and
end up at the Art and Villas. So that alone
tells us that there was no type of reference check
conducted on this guy. It was not an extensive background
check as they claimed was conducted. And the sad thing

(01:30:43):
about this is this is a debt that was totally
preventable and to see a family have to deal with
the loss of a nineteen year old daughter, this is
just something that they would never ever be able to
get out of their heads since the guy's committed suicide.
What does justice look like for this fan? Justice for
this family is holding this apartment complex responsible. Is holding

(01:31:06):
the police responsible not just for them, but for they're
so concerned about everybody else. You know, one of the
reasons that they wanted to start the foundation and even
talking with lawmakers about changing the laws is there's no
quote unquote justice for them because they lost who they is,
their baby, their princess. But they are fighting now to

(01:31:29):
make sure that this doesn't happen to other families. And
you know, days, you know, after this, you know, they
found their daughter unfortunately deceased, they were already talking about
how can we stop this from happening to anyone else?
And they already acknowledge that because they're so well connected.
They kept saying, like, you know, Jody, Gosh, what do

(01:31:52):
the families that do not have the connections that we
have actually go through. If we didn't have access to media, friends,
we didn't have access to retired police officers to help guidance,
if we didn't have access to Attorney Washington to spend
others what those families do in this situation. So this family,

(01:32:12):
right now, justice is going to be about changing laws,
holding people accountable, ensuring that their daughter's name is never forgotten,
working on what we deemed me as law in the
state of Florida, and so that's that's kind of what
justice is going to look like for this family right now. Well,
thank you so much for joining us. We want to
make sure that we, you know, also publicize this story

(01:32:33):
as much as possible so it doesn't go under the radar,
and we keep our foot on their next too, to
make sure that there is some type of accountability to
the fullest. Yeah, I can just say this and not apologize. Man,
this is such a serious problem that we have in
our community. So many young girls are missing today and
they don't get the same attention that a lot of

(01:32:56):
these cases get. So we can imagine where a lot
of families are gone to so gone through it. So
I really appreciate you guys taking the time out of
you know, your day to to highlight this this case.
Thank you, Jody and Jody. Please keep me updated all right, Well,
thank you Attorney Daryl Washington and Jody Lewis. Now, Charloman,
you got a positive note, Yes, I got a positive

(01:33:17):
note today. But first I want to tell y'all to
make sure to go listen to the Gods Honest Truth podcast. Okay,
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(01:33:37):
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at ten pm on Comedy Central. Look okay, now, the
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and correcting yourself instead of blaming others. You take your
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