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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Time, time, Time to wake up. Infant and Charlotte Mean
the Doctor to Breakfast Club Bitches, the voice of the culture.
People watch The Rereface Club for like news and really
be tuned in. It's one of my favorite shows. You
do just because y'all always keep you one hundred, y'all
keep your real. They might not watch the news, but
they're on Twitter, they're on Facebook, they're you know, they're

(00:22):
listening to The Breakfast Brother. Get your ass up. I'm telling,
I'm telling what you doing. Hol of you. This is
your time to get it off your chest, whether you're
mad or blessed. Eight hundred five eight five one oh
five one. We want to hear from you on the
Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this? What's up? The via courting

(00:44):
it from Atlanta? What's up? Brother? Charla face King? Get
it off your chest, man, I want to get it
off my chest. Man. I'm picking the Facebook fride, the
Instagram idiot, the Twitter tub man. You can't post your
opinion without somebody trying to count for you or the negative.
Like I'm just over it. Um. People be asking me,
they were like, why won't you get off? But it's

(01:05):
like it's addicting man, I'm a nerd, so it's kind
of hard to like come home from a stressful day
of work and like find something to do. So you
you scroll through social media, but all it is a negativity, man,
Uncle Charlotte, send me fook doctor, I will. I'm gonna
send you the unapologetic guy in the black mental health
out doctor to walk up. I send you a need

(01:26):
a copack shallow water that I send you to Mike
A Mallory state of emergency, and I disagree with you. No,
I'm serious. I'm gonna send it to you. I'm gonna
put you on hold, and I was gonna tell you
that read a book, man, Like we gotta stop being
in abusive relationships with our smart phones, because that's what
it is. We're literally in abusive relationships with our smart
phones and social media. We don't need it. Fact fact fact.

(01:47):
If I can find a way to like get off,
like I would be off forever, like forever. Just find
something else that you're interested in, like Charlemagne said, maybe
it's a book, maybe it's you know, maybe it's on
your phone. But googling things that interest you, you know
what I mean, whether you're into you know, real estate,
or you into cars, or you're into clue. Just get
into something that you're into, you know what I mean.
And it looked those things up like a lot of

(02:08):
times around on a plane or I'm in the airport,
I just look up houses and different markets because I
just like, I like looking at homes, you know, just
just whether I could afford them or not. That's just
something that interests me. And it is a lot of
productive stuff you can watch online. You just gotta curate.
You gotta curate what you're feeding into your mind, that's all.
But hold on, I got your books right here in
my hand. Look I see him. Hello, who's this breakfast? Y'all?

(02:30):
How y'all doing? Hey bro, hey man. I just wanted
to give a big thanks to you every man. I'm
a new listener. I've probably been listening for about a year.
My girl Putty on Game with you guys. I used
to think she was a clown listening to y'all glow
with the clown back in the day. Uh, but I
never actually listened to you guys the show. And someone

(02:52):
I actually listened, I was like, you know what these
people are that they're good people? You guys, You gotta
know what you're doing. And I really appreciate what you
got to do the eavy. Um. I heard you talked
about the credit due of the wild back And at
the same time, I was trying to get everything since
man and I finally hit a month and he got
my stuff straight, myself a new truck. Yeah, he got

(03:13):
my credit right, man, they got my credit right. I'm
still working all the still trying to get up to
that those eighth man, but they got me into the
seven am, the five, and they got me all the
way up. Man. I just bought myself a new truck.
I'm a truck driver out here, worked for FedEx and uh, man,
I'm blessed, highly favored. How take uh eight to nine months? Man.

(03:39):
I had some serious stuff from there that they got
off pretty quick for me. Okay. I was really deprised
how fast they did it, you know, because it was
kind of the slow promises at the beginning. But you know,
as I kept checking and I you know, did the
programs they were talking about it, it was just yeah,
it just shot up instantly. Yeah, and let people know, man,

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you know, it's never too late to do what you
need to do. Man. I was a feeling. I'm thirty
three years old. I was getting curved from every job
I tried to get, end up just grabbing getting my CDL,
getting the Class A, and I'm loving life right now.
All right, I think the credit due. I think he's
gonna come up here this week, and I think what
we're gonna do is we're gonna fix I think like
maybe twenty thirty people's credit, just to just on the strength,

(04:22):
just to help people out. I've been recommending him to
everybody I know, man, because he worked wondering. You guys
worked wonder to thank you so much. Yeah. No, he
helped me out so many times. And people don't like
I've met him because he actually helped me fix my credit.
I had something left up on my credit and he
helped me and we just became good friends. Hello, who's
this Jessica from Virginia? Hey, Jessica from VA? What part

(04:43):
of the A? I'm in Arlington. Okay, get it off
your chess, Okay, get it off your chess. So I
am actually blessed, but I'm a little sad because I
listened to you guys every morning live on my way
to work, and basically I told you guys, how I
shot my shot of dramas you shot it down. I

(05:05):
found a black king. Hey, congratulations, job moving to Seattle
to be with my black king. Nice, mamma. Yes, so
I'm very excited. But I just wanted to tell you guys,
thank you so so so much for everything with you,
for the community and and the people that you guys

(05:27):
bring on as far as like information and stuff like that.
You guys are more appreciated than you thinking, you know,
so I just wanted to say thank you. I appreciate you.
You gotta listen to us on the app now, Yeah,
I listen to iHeart. If I do, you missed it
in the morning, so I'm just gonna stick to iHeart. Okay. Well,
thank you, mama, and you have a great trip and
safe ma'am. Thank you, Charla Mane. Can I get a

(05:49):
sign copy of Black Privilege? Please? Absolutely, that's easy. We
put you on hold when we get your address. Hold, no,
hang up, all right, get it off your chess eight
hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you
need to vent, hit this up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up, wake y'all.

(06:09):
Ass your time to get it off your chest. Your man,
I'm blessed. We want to hear from you on the
breakfast Black, Hello, who's this? Destiny? Was an eye from
the eighth for three eight forty three was happening, Destiny?
Get it off your chest, Mama. I just wanted to
call us say that I am blessing how he favored? Nope,

(06:30):
you blessed Black and Holly Favorite. You're right about that. Um.
I just hit thirty this year, and I'm really starting
to see what Mary Jake Blige and you know Javo
we're talking about in that song Rainy Days, And even
on the rainy days, I walk out the house with
us knock on my face and I know that God's

(06:51):
got there. You go, thank and Charlot sometimes man, Nope,
we love you, but you didn't till sometimes off the chaparlo.
So why would I listen to? Why? Why? Why would
I chill them? I'm gonna always be me and and
you know how you say when you leave the house
is gonna be those rainy days. One thing about me,
I'm gonna always be me, the so called good, so

(07:12):
called bad, so called ugly. Every day. Well, I'll definitely
tune in the watching United fan. Hey, there you go.
The God's Done is True from Comedy Central. But thank you, mom.
You have a great weekend. Hello. Who's this this? Mo? Mo?
What up? Getting off? Chu? Bro? Yeah? Hey, I just
want to shout out my queens h Instagram page. Real
Quick is Avayance Creation a U d I A NT Creation.

(07:38):
She's h Detroit based photographer the basic Detroit Man. I
swear anything you need, you got it, Uh, Angela yee.
I just want to ask for a favorite's possible. Okay
we come. We're coming up on a year and she's
a big fan, and I just wanted to know if
you had any like available time being like dude, a
photos shot with or something. You know what I'm saying,

(07:59):
Like this ever years from me to hub. You know
what I'm saying, It is possible when I'm in Detroit.
Yeah when he whenever you're in Detroit, if you have time, Okay,
Yeah that I could use that too. That'd be nice. Yeah,
so awesome. I just want to thank God. My grandma
just came home from having cold. Wow. I mean that's

(08:21):
the blessing. All right, brother, have a good weekend. Get
it off your chest. I said he loved his girl.
I love to see it absolutely eight hundred five eight five,
one oh five one, get it off your chest. It's
the Breakfast Club. Go Morning, the Breakfast Club. Wait that
up in the morning. Check out this breakfast club. We

(08:42):
want morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy.
We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
in the building. That's right, Posh Shasty not a new
project got the day called Shafety season. This is your
first project, right for so my first one album? What
it is? This a mixtape? Is it's an album? Is

(09:02):
it's an ep a mixtape? Mixtape? Now? For people that
don't know you from Memphis? Yo, salth Mivin and you
signed with Gucci Walk Big Walk. How did that? How
did that come about? Mine? U me in the bid
my middle of the night. One day, he takes me
on Instagram? Did you believe it? Did you think it was?
It was? It was a lie. I couldn't believe it

(09:26):
'm that last year? So he just sent you a DM. Yeah,
he takes me, said, what's up home? I couldn't believe.
I grabbed my phone, get up, push something out of
the real takes him back. I say, what's chopping? He
takes back right there in and there like he was owning.
He was waiting on me to tip back. You're like,

(09:48):
I'm talking with your mirrors home. Who are you doing
this with? I put my clothes on shoot to shoot
the pops out. Then my managers I waken to wake
up A look I showed him. Couldn't believe he get
the Swain right. Then another though, why I'm showing him?
He takes back, He said, it did my number fade
time a fade timing right. Third, we was on fade

(10:08):
time for like six hours. It was already like three
in the morning. Though, he just said, look on face
time before we continue that story. Whoever that woman was
in the bed with you gonna be mad that you
just referred to her as somebody somewhere. Now what you're
being for Memphis? Did Dolf or gott he reached out

(10:32):
with since since they both from the same areas, or yeah,
for sure, but you never wanted to sign with that
or they just never offered a deal, or just wasn't
the right situation, Like I ain't gonna lie, I ain't
known wanted to sign a no better then Joe. My
mentality you know in the city is like you gotta
sign to either one of them. You gotta be paper
out of sEMG. So before Walcome came out, I'm still

(10:54):
Chopper guind this is my lab. So I wanted to
be like, why you can't be signed a Chopper game?
Seeing your paper rout? Then Walk can't bone perfect sing?
You know I got you. I always wonder how Gucci
Man discovers talent, like what did he hit? What did
he hero rs? It's a genius, he a genius. But
I'm gonna tell you what a song he heard of
the show Mine ain't Slim Mine Slim did it for

(11:16):
him and that was the only song he heard. He
was like, oh yeah, South, When did you finally meet
him in person? Did he did you? Did you fly
to a land or did he come out to Memphish
or we flew to Alan. It was like I got
signed throing COVID so it ain't locked down and shut
down and thin over over the phone. So yeah, did

(11:37):
you did the deal over the phone? Didn't meet him
in person? Just no, I didn't do the deal and
over the phone, Like I was signed a week before
I had to pop out like with it. No, I
had to hold it in. It's hard, it's a walk. Yeah,
I still problem to like my mom was something, well,
she gonna tell them hold SI. A lot of folks

(11:57):
in our days want to stay indie. What made you say?
You know what? Now, I'm gonna do the ten seventeen
Atlantic thing right perfect since and they ain't ain't coming
at me on the BS and and you know what
I'm saying. So when they did, then I like, I
ain't genuine what I really wanted to see me win it? Man?
When did you realize that it was taking off? When

(12:18):
your popularity before you did the deal with w When
did you realize it was taking off? With it? One day?
You walking into malling, people be like, yo, I know
who you are? Was it your mama heard the rector
one time? But when did you realize, like yo, it
was like out of her, out of her? Yeah, I
ain't gonna laugh. My first song to see it start
off for a verse. I did my first verse on
it own breaking news with me and the game trouble Gun.

(12:39):
Then verse on ther went viral. They were like who
it did? Dude? It was like I couldn't like step
out the gate or none no more for Ryan pay All.
This it was real then, but when I knew it
took out when they hit the radios. So I got
put on you from guard up because I was listening
to the new title playlist and that got up so hard.

(13:00):
I just went down this pool shicey rabbit hole and
I'm just like, man, this dude is dope. And then
it started ding on me. Oh he went Gucci, so
it then it started to make sense. You used to
play ball with him, I know how, you know how? Yeah,
I'm like, I don't want them. I want them to
play the coach miss with but can't make the team
that I got here used me for practice, getting the showing.

(13:23):
They need an inscre man, but I ain't even on
the team or nothing. Well, wasn't to the locker room
because of behavior or something. Behavior, couldn't get no physicals, Yeah,
but got the talent for show. That's how it was
when me. I used to want to play sports, but
I couldn't. I was always suspended in all types of stupid.
And I've seen when you opposed me though, like oh
like big shout him. I don't like nobody The Breakfast

(13:47):
Club if you missed the Breakfast Club, you don't coo
from my world. It's dangerous. Check out this rewind. Yeah,
it's the world most dangerous Morning to show The Breakfast Club.
Charlemagne and God Angela, Ye dj Envy, and we got
my man Pooh Shicety here Pooh Shitsky as a new
artist out of Memphis. He signed the ten seventeen Atlantic Records.
He's got a project out right now called Shisty Season.

(14:09):
And you got a question, do you still in Memphis
or you decided to boot to Atlantic? Because I see
Atlanta is everything. Atlanta is open, Atlanta is the music scene.
You run in the audi, in the studio. Huh yeah
for show. I'm in a move for show, but I
would be whoever. I feel like I go to them too.
You feel like memphisis is as united as it should
be at all. I know, man, Memphis are like for united.

(14:31):
You can use Alouna for example, Memphis Now, I won't
see nobody to win. I'm gonna pull you now something
type of way. Try to tempt someone on, you, try
to take something. It just Memphis. They hate too because
of that. Why not just stay out the city for
a while. They beat how they feel the or the folks.
I ain't gonna do me like it's up to me now,

(14:52):
like it's in my hand I can bring make it
like alouna that there's how I feel I could be
the big brother stars on the pun. It's like if
if if Memphis was united, y'all would easily be that
next city from the South with all the talent coming
from that talent too much time. So so what do
you think it if the ogs didn't embrace the youngsters?
What was it? I don't I don't get it. Be

(15:13):
there like folks be having the feeling I don't want
no about to pass them or something I don't incur,
Like as long as you know what I'm saying, pay
your homage and do right, keep it. You know what
I'm saying, keep a little chick like I don't to
speak none of this sucker stuff. Now it's more dangerous
to be a rapper or a screet the lad through year.

(15:34):
Rappers ain't bad to year. I ain't gonna couple here.
They've been going at the rapper. Is it because the
money makes you a target? The fame was like the
screets the rap Now then the folk internet. They're gonna
do the police jobs. So if it wasn't a rap,
what you think you'd be into legal, I'll be put up.

(15:54):
I won't even be here. So yeah, how proudly is
your mom right now? They're seeing everything that you've been through. Man,
she's my mom one. She's very proud. Big shout out
of them all, dudes. I wish she could be. She
loves you too, been watched you year. I know about
you through my mom. I appreciate that ski mask talking

(16:18):
about bad you know? Also what you know better? You
can't slide with that, but you see it, batter, it's
a man we don't know, all right. I gotta get
you run now. Also with um, what's the first thing
you bought when you made money? And what's the first
thing you bought your mom? No? I bought my mama
cough first, what kind of car fandom? Infinity? Infinity? No,

(16:42):
this is the first one. No, she's gonna do it big,
but I had to give us a what's the first
thing you bought yourself? Your biggest purchase so far being
truck man? You gotta buy churches, man, you got to Yeah,
I got asa franchise your own churches that would be though,
push shat on some churches because they need all the

(17:03):
all churches needs a rebrand. They might need to reach
out O see that in church and keep it. I've
been saying churches come in on fold stuff and then
churches tapping in big shots. You're gonna shoot the video
at the churches with my shirt off. Absolutely well, Po Shay.

(17:23):
We appreciate you for joining, and we promised we were
gonna bring a lot of new artists up in here,
new artists that are moving the culture. And when this
fifty year old man came in here with a ski
mask on, pointing his finger guns at me, it was like,
it's tongue. It means yeah, because we I mean, listen,
we've been doing this for a wild ten years and
like we've seen a lot of like we saw the
Megals early on, we saw a little baby early on.

(17:44):
And I feel like you got that same thing. Absolutely,
you know what I mean, appreciate that. I think Pu
Shaty gonna be a star star. And you said, like
when you felt that, you said, at all the top
mean older than you know what I'm saying, Not for what, dude,
not I suck. I appreciate that and tell you mom,
I said peace, We appreciate it. What's her name, Miss
glad Miss Gladys, Miss Gladys. All right, oh well it's

(18:07):
pool Shasty, not na pool. You know we ain't come
up here, you know we don't. We've been at home,
so we came up here for you now. Want you
to know that, so you know it's it's serious. Maybe
wishing the best of luck and hopefully we'll see you
again up here. Well, all right, it's pool shicsty. It's
the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Wait, wait up, wake up,
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(18:57):
eight five one oh five? Want to join it to
the discussion with the breakfast club? Talk about it? Morning,
Everybody's stej envy, angela Yee Charlemagne the guy. We are
the breakfast club. Now if you just joined as Charlemagne
came to work this morning a little um under the influence, Yeah,
under the under the influence of country rap tunbs. Okay,

(19:19):
I deserve to be in breakfast club court this morning.
I feel stupid. I've been in here gang banging on
the radio and I just feel like I'm too old
and still be influenced by music. And I promise you
it literally was the New South Playlist on title listening
to stuff like key Glock off the Porch and my
Man Little Boss I Know It and you know, pooh
shicety guard up. It really really, really really took me

(19:43):
to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah. So so
we're asking if Charlemagne, are we all too old to
be h influenced by music right now? I don't think so. Bro,
You know what I'm saying. I really don't. And I
have no reason for saying that other than I just
really enjoy it. Are we going through a middle life practice?
I don't think so. Still. You know, like Charlomagne, you

(20:04):
have a ski mask drinking drinking Starbucks, Like, what is that?
It's called balance? Is that a boogie gangsterf like what
it's called. Balance, think it's game. Bankers don't need caffeine.
I don't know you need energy to do a drive
by too. Okay, you think I have to put money
on people's head without uh, you know, a little lot tepe? Okay? Hello?
Who's this? This is hey Virginia. You know you know

(20:26):
your boy's up here with a ski mask on, drinking
a latte. I love it with a pinky in the
It's a little weird. We have to listen, we have
to do I'm for three. I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey,
I'll be in my car sometimes. You know, I could
be a bug, I could be a seeheart. But listen, Charlomagne,
keep doing it. Thank you, baby, That's what I'm talking about.

(20:52):
Jackie Killed, Florida. Hello, who's this? This guy's crazy? Hey, John,
what are you calling from Florida? You know what, I
don't think it's a good thing when you got a
bunch of Florida people of jo John Charlotta Mane has
a ski mask on on right now, he's drinking a
Lotte with his pinky in the finger. I don't know
what he wants to do. With that pinky. I don't
I don't know, but but you think his ass is

(21:13):
too old fallers, man, sit your old ass down somewhere. Man.
How old are you, sir? I'm thirty three? Oh you're
thirty three. Okay, you're still living out your old wild
out days. You're still cheating on your girl? Did that?
I did that when I was swing. I got arrested
four times one year. Congratulations. What was the biggest charge?
The biggest one was a home invasion. What music were

(21:34):
you listening to when you did that home invasion for Florida? Man,
I listened kind of stuff man, y'all, I don't even
know applies, Okay, you know, probably Kodak. Now that was
that was a while ago. That was a while ago.
All right, go that's the middle school that is. But
you got your life together now, Yeah, definitely definitely that
you got a family. Man, You're right that think, brother,
thank you? You know what you got that when you

(21:55):
say that once you once you see that, once you
add that you got a family. That's like when a
game banging, say on God and them he gonna do
something to you want Somebody tell you, sit y'all out there,
you got a family. That's when you get back through reality.
He right, Hello, rests Christian out of Fully, Hey, Christian
out of Philly. Good morning Christian. Now Now, Charlotmagne is
asked too old to be wilding out to this music. Now,

(22:17):
I don't know that's what you're supposed to be doing. Listen.
It's balance of life. It's the yang and the yang,
It's the drug deal and a professional because every morning
I'm listening to King King Vod. I'm from Fully and
I'm not from sixty third. I do that every morning
and then not do my professional nine to five. And
when I come home it's neck to Jason and Sulliman
and all of that. So you need balance, a balance.
I agree with you. Ratchetness and righteousness is the right exactly.

(22:40):
I'm with you with music too. I'm with you because
because I did the same thing. I woke up this morning.
I meditated, I had my beads in my hand, I
was doing my mantras, and then I'm going to therapy
at three o'clock. But when I was driving in the work,
it was them country rap tunes. Bro Listen, We're moving weight,
were moving away, my God, really work all up and

(23:01):
down ninety five. We got our world one page and
ways we are professionals with our parents, we have our pta.
They love us, but we turned up. That's what you
gotta do with you. You sell Joe, you sell drugs
in the morning hair for me. Oh that's right. She's

(23:21):
representing for all the people out there who still want
to do the bust of challenge. But that needs not
what they used to be. But we outchair babies because
I'm a mama and I'm not posting it. Hey, let's
go hello, who's this yo? This kid is Amarcosol game
game Bro? What's up? Bro? How old are you? Kid?

(23:43):
Brokay bank that see y'all day. I'll bang that see
y'a all day. I don't even know what that means.
What's that mean? That's that's Christ Christ with that. I
thought the seeds for christy all day. So when you're
banging the Christ, when you're throwing up that, that seat
for rice. Hey, sou's gang. What do you listen to?
I listened to I ain't gonna lie, young thug whole lie.

(24:07):
I listen to Drake. I listen know, I ain't gonna lie.
You know I told some uh I told some ya
Adams maybe and there I like the balance. I love
the balance, King from young Thug to Orlanda Adams, I
love the balance. Now you're you know you got to
You're twenty nine. Charlemagne forty two. Charlotmaye be banging out

(24:28):
this every morning. Yeah he can. He can have a balance,
but he can bang right to bang left. That's right,
the middle, right, right middle. Yo can tell his daughters, Yo,
kid clean kitchen. That's right on this on the set,
Oh my goodness, on the set. You better have that
kitchen clean. Hello? Who's this? Yes? Hi? Right? Listen this

(24:51):
from the doub Bill in Ohio. Now, and Charlomagne too,
only be gang gang in this morning. I have to
second emotion, yes, but I have to add myself puts too.
I'll be thinking I'm just ratchet. You talk about Luda
Pete popping. Oh my god, I'm thirty three years out
with two kids that I have, me going. I ain't
never peep talking about life, but I can't work talking
about Gucci and Jesus. I'll be talking about shoot somebody

(25:14):
when I'm mak thirteen years off. No, yes, you do
have no moments. They do influencio. Now, listen, Jeez and Gucci,
that was our era. We were still in our old
wild out days when they was in their prime. These
new these, these new Negroes different, these new Negroes to
take you someplace even further. And Jez and Gucci then
did don't telling you they didn't have you literally and

(25:35):
don't you and don't act like you ain't never did
no people up because you said you got three kids. Okay, honey,
I got to and I have, but I don't know
how to do it on my hand stand. Clearly didn't
know how to do something. That man whoever was then
baby daddies you got to do influent. They're doing fluent.
And I have my ratchet moments too, when I've been
a bust for eight years. The them, them baby daddies,

(25:59):
you got release their ancestors in you for a reason.
You know how to pepop something on something? Honey. Yes
we're not on the handstand right, but on a back
dad answer, Okay, all right, I'm telling you all right, Well,
don't move. Happy Holidays. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlemagne,

(26:23):
the guy we are the Breakfast Club now Charlemagne. Yesterday
got a chance to talk with Travis Scott. Yeah, this
happened on This happened, just happened on Wednesday. You know,
I got a couple of calls from a few folks
and they were like, you know, Travis Scott, you know,
wants to sit and have a conversation with you, you you know,
to discuss the tragedy that happened on November fifth at
after World in Houston, Texas. And that's what we did.

(26:46):
And also how he wants to, you know, help make
sure this this never happens again. All right, Well we're
gonna get into that next and we're gonna take your
calls after this too. So let's listen as a community,
and you got questions, whatever you feel like you want
to talk about after this interview, you can call us up.
Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one, Ladies
and gentlemen. Travis Scott, Travis Scott, what's up? Brother? What

(27:07):
to do? How you feeling? Uh? You know I've been
on about like a different type of like emotions, you know,
emotional roller coaster. I mean, um, it gets so hard
because I always felt like connected with my fans, and
you know, I went through something, you know, and I
feel like fans went through something and people's parents would

(27:28):
do something, and you know it really, you know, it hurts.
It hurts the community her to a city and it's
just been a lot of thoughts, you know, a lot
of feelings, a lot of grieving and just you know,
trying to get you wrapped my head around it. You know.
I really just really wanted to be there and just
you know, wish you can just kind of like hold everyone,

(27:49):
you know, um, kind of just healed them, talk to them.
I have conversations, you know. It just it just you know,
it really just hurts me. What's your what's your intention
with this conversation, Like like what do you hope to
get out of this or what do you hope to
get out I don't personally have an intention. I just

(28:09):
feel like something happened and I feel like it's just
I needed just a way to kind of like communicate,
you know, the families are grieving, you know, as fans
that experienced something, as fans that came to a show,
you know, and I feel like I just have like
a I've always been that person to always see things

(28:30):
through the people that shared experiences with me, and you know,
it's just things happening, you know, I just kind of
you know, it's been such a such a time and
I've just been trying to just really figure things out.
You know, I'm sure you experiencing remorse, But was there
any hesitation to have this conversation because of the litigation

(28:53):
you may be facing. Well, I mean, yeah, of course
you got people. It's just like, oh, like you know,
but it's not about that, you know, your artists, you
whoever people think you are. About the end of the day,
You're a human being. You know, you have emotions, Um
you want to communicate them emotions, you know, and trying
to find the best way to communicate. How have you

(29:14):
been coping with the aftermath of everything? Just just just emotionally,
just you as a human. I've been just in a
room for a while, you know, a lot of thoughts
and luckily, you know, you have people around that you
kind of outside ideas. But it just been you know,
I've been doing this for such a long time, and
you know, you nothing like this ever happened, you know,

(29:37):
so it just kind of like you just kind of
figuring out and at the end of the day, like
these fans of your family, so you just feel like
you lost lost something and you just like you go,
you do these shows honestly to you know, for people
to have the best experience, you know, and just to
think to something like this happened. You just trying to
figure out you know, you know, just wrap everything around.

(29:58):
And so even just for the first couple a couple
of weeks, you know, it was just me sitting down,
but I had to really channel these emotions to just remember, like,
you know, if no one's gonna be a voice to
these people, I gotta like kind of step up and
kind of like be a voice to just figure out
that you know, this isn't happened in the future, to
show is period, you know what I'm saying, or figure

(30:18):
out the bottom solution of what's going on, and just
trying to ensure as people, you know, safety and what
they're doing. You know, you said you was in the room,
but then people saw you at the golf course, but
with Michael Jordan, Mark Wahlberg, what what was that? Um?
It was just Thanksgiving, um, you know, and they were there.
You know, it's just good people to have around in

(30:38):
the community, and you know that was just more like
a personal time, just trying to get around. I think
like some fan came and asked for a photo. But yeah,
let's talk about that night. Man. When when did when
did you find out things got as bad as they did? That?
That's the question everybody wants to go. Yeah, it wasn't
really until like minutes until like the press conference, until

(30:59):
I figured out exactly what happened. You know, um, even
after the show, you know, you're just kind of hearing
hearing things, but you don't know. I didn't know the
exact details until you know, minutes before the press conference.
And even at that moment you kind of just like wait,
you know what, Like you know, you just went through
something and it's just like wait what you know, So

(31:20):
you didn't know people that actually passed away until minutes before,
you know, which is you know, and at the thing,
it's like, you know, people pass out, you know people,
you know, things happen at concerts, but something like that,
it's just like, yeah, people said they are collectively, they

(31:42):
collectively heard folks scream and help every time you stop
the song to get your attention, did you did you
hear any of those screams, nah man. And you know
it's so crazy because I'm not I'm not artist too, Like,
you know, anytime you can hear something like that, you
want to stop the show. You want to make sure,
you know, fans get the property and they need you know,
And anytime I could see anything like that, I did,

(32:04):
you know, you know, I stopped like a couple of
times to just make sure everybody was okay, and I
just really just go off the you know, the fans
energy as a collective, you know, call a response. And
I just didn't. I just didn't hear that. You know,
I got music, I got my inears, but I just didn't.
I just didn't hear that. You know, break that down
a little more like Nope, nobody knows what it's like

(32:25):
being on stage except for other artists who speak to
us from that perspective of what you can see in here.
It was like fifty thousand people. Yeah, I mean you
got like a view, you know, feel like fifty thousand people.
But it's like a see, you got lights, you got sound,
you got pyro, you got you know, you got your inears,
got your sound, got your mic, you know, got the music,
You got bands, all type of you know, stuff going on,

(32:49):
so it's it's hard to tell excitement from from from
dangerous or to speak of course, everything kind of just
sounds the same. And at the end of the day,
you just hear music, you know, and when you do,
you just hear amongks of things. You know, but you
just when you're in the show, you just into the show.
And anytime you can feel anything closely, you know, you
try to like definitely get to that. So so as

(33:10):
an artist, how much can you actually, I guess help
in that position. You can only help what you can see,
you know what I mean. And then what you know,
whatever you's told, you know what I'm saying. Whenever it
somebody tell you to stop, you just stop. But just
wasn't it was It wasn't that night, huh. You know, raging.
Raging has been a part of the culture, you know,

(33:31):
of your shows. You know you didn't on this night,
but in the past you've encouraged I guess the kind
of energy that could have led to something like this happening.
Do you think that contributed to the energy of this night? Yeah, nah,
I think you know, It's something I've been working on
you know, for a while, um of just creating these
experiences and trying to show like the experiences happening in

(33:53):
a safe environment. You know, us as artists, we trust
you know, professionals to make sure that you know, things
happen to people leave you safely, you know what I'm saying. Um.
And it's not just like a regular show. You know,
it felt like to me um as far as like
you know, the energy people, it didn't feel like it
was like you know, people didn't I don't people didn't
show up there to just be harmful people just I

(34:15):
think showed up to have a good time. And then
you know, something unfortunate happened, and I think we really
just got to figure out, you know what that was.
You know, does raging make it harder to identify when
something is going wrong in the crowd? Well, I think
raging is just a you know, they have a textbook,
you know definition. But you know, in the concerts and

(34:35):
we've grown it to be just experience of having fun.
It's not about just oh, harm, It's not about that.
It's about just letting go and having fun. You know,
help others, no, love each other. It's not about just
you know, harm. That's not what it's all about. The
show isn't just rambunctious for hour. You know, that's not

(34:57):
what it is. Oh, trust me, I grew up on crunk,
so you know I understand. You know, you just don't
you don't want it to get two out of hand. Yeah,
but you know the code. You know, the energy is high,
you know, and you know, and that's why you want
to just make sure that, you know, people are surrounded
to make sure that people are just having the best experience.
You know what I'm saying. You know, I can't say

(35:17):
the energy is high, but you know you want to
make sure that people are there for people to have
like the best experience in league. Yeah, you want people
to have a good time. You want people to get
hurt at all. Yeah. Yeah, and God forbid passed away.
And you know it's typical for you to stop a
show to make sure fans in the crowd get to help,
you know, they need They even footage of that night

(35:39):
of you doing that during the set where you unable
to sense like a difference in urgency this time around,
I mean yeah, because you know, you stop the show,
but you know, you know, if someone's gonna happen. If
it's something detrimental, somebody's gonna let you know, you know,
or you know, the show just stop them. And you
know that just wasn't the case. You know, I just
kind of stop the show. You know, you just asked.

(35:59):
You have a call of re sponsor the fans. Um
you try to, you know, generally get a response, but
you know, if you don't get like a hard stop,
you know, it's just you can't. You just don't. You
just go off of what's going on, you know, which
makes it so like so crazy because like, you know,

(36:19):
if I feel like, if you know, anyone wouldn't know
and it would have just been like it wouldn't have
gotten far, you know. All Right, we got more with
Travis Scott and Charlemagne there one on one conversation, so
don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody
is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlemagne the guy we are
the Breakfast Club. Now if he's just joining us, we're
playing a one on one interview with Travis Scott and Charlemagne.

(36:42):
Travis Scott and Charlemagne spoke yesterday, so we're getting that
back on this morning. Yeah, we chopped it up yesterday,
you know. Um and you know, as you can see
if you've been listening, he's being very open about the situation.
But at Afterworld in Houston, Texas, the tragedy that happened
on November fifth at after World and US in Texas.
But you can you can see his brain, you know,

(37:03):
going on just how to make sure this never happens again.
But you know, keep listening, all right, and here's part two.
It's the Breakfast Club, Go Morning. What headspace were you
when you posted that that initial that initial response video.
I mean it was I think it has to been
the night of you know, Um, so I was just
in a headspace of just trying to get a communication

(37:23):
out to my fans, you know, and I had literally
no information, you know, so I was just trying to
figure it out and just communicate to them. You know. Yeah.
I was just reacting, just literally just to get something
to the fans. You know, there's people that showed up.
Do you regret that initial video? Do you regret reacting
in that way or not, like not having all the
information before you said something. I mean yeah, because you know,

(37:46):
you just don't know what's going on. But at the
end of the day. I don't, you know, I just
wanted to get something out, you know, how my messages
came out, I can't you know, I can only go
off for that, you know what I know. But my
Truman titches of it, you know, was really just trying
to get a message across. And you know, I really
wanted to just touch the fans, touching the families. You
know that we here, we're grieving and we would get

(38:07):
through this, you know, through this process. So what did
you know in that first video? I mean at that time,
I think we just knew that you know, people passed,
you know, Um, we didn't know how you know that
it was you know the news. You know, I think
police came out and said something. Um, you know, you're
just going off of what you're seeing in the in
the in the news. You know, you don't really know nothing.
And then as it did go on, you started collecting

(38:28):
a little bit more information. They said there was they
would like chaos and trampling being reported since the early afternoon,
like like hours before the show even started. Were you
informed of any of that ahead of time? Well? No,
like um and um, you know the police he came
he came in um to my trailer and you know

(38:48):
he congratulated me on you know, the event and you know,
having something like this in Houston. You let me know
that this it was, you know, mishap at the merged
booth earlier. You know they shut it down with they
opened it back up. They she even got it under control.
You know, he was gonna step out and just let
us know if we need anything, you know, have a
good show. That was it. You know a lot of

(39:10):
the criticism, you know from the tragedy they say is
and the poor planning and understaffing of the end of
the event. As an artist, that you have any involvement
in any of that, well, I mean we just as
an artist, you just do the creative and for this
to be my festival, you know, I got you know,
bring artists you know, creatively produce it and you know
we're just trusting you know, the professionals to kind of

(39:31):
just make sure that you know, people you know taking
care of and you know, leaving safely. You know, I
just can control what I can on the stage and
then you know you have the professionals control what they
can in the crowd. You know, it's just hard because
as an artist, you know, you want to have like
the best shows and you want to have the best experiences,
and you you know, you link with professionals to handle

(39:54):
that side of it, you know, and you know you
want to know what's going on. I think that's what
we got to figure out, you know, and figure out
what happened there, how that happened. You know, you spoke
on the Houston Police chief. His name is that Troy Finna.
He came to you and he said he voiced concerns
over the crowd energy. So what did you on your

(40:15):
team like do with that information. Well, I think that's
what the media. Um, I think that's what the media said.
But I think I think it read too more so
that he wanted us to He knew that our crowd was,
you know, the type of crowd that comes it comes
to a heavy crowd. So to communicate with him if
we were doing anything outside of the week's itinerary, you know,
um that week we were doing like a lot of

(40:36):
charity stuff prior to the festival, so you know the
security at most of the events. But you know, he
was just letting us, you know, I guess in that statement,
he was just saying, if we do anything outside of
what we had on our itinerary, let him know. But
you know, we didn't even get to that point. You know,
it's crazy, just you know, being a kicking it with
you for a little bit, Like I can see that
you know, this is Wayne real heavy on it. Yeah. So,

(40:59):
so how much do you feel a sense of responsibility
for what happened at night? Well, you know, fans come
to have a come to the show and have a
good experience, you know, Um, and I have a responsibility
to figure out what happened here. I have a responsibility
to figure out the solution. And hopefully this takes the

(41:22):
first step into you know, us as artists, you know,
having that more insight of what's going on. You know
what I'm saying, Um, the professionals to kind of you know,
surround and figure out more of an intel, whether it's tech,
whether it's you know, more of a response, whether it's
whatever the problem is, you know, UM, to figure out

(41:43):
that in the future and moving forward in concert safety,
make sure it just never happened again. You know. But
let's talk about those professionals, like how much how much
responsibility do you think like Live Nation and score more.
The promoters having all of this, I mean, they do
their job of you know, setting these things up. So
I mean I think they when we dial into what

(42:07):
you know, specifically happen here, I feel like, you know,
even they can kind of help, you know, figure out
what happened in the sense um you know. But at
the end of the day, I think collectively everyone needs
to just figure out the bottom line solution. But you know,
especially in concert safety, you know, definitely got to have
you know, make sure that you know these things are

(42:30):
you know, done right. You think he's afestival are too
big man, pifty dollars people with a lot of people
for anybody to their festivals that are bigger, you know,
way bigger, And you know, I just think it's not
about the maximum of it. I think it's about the
attension to what's going on and how it's going on.

(42:51):
And as long as that's handle, I feel like things
can be you know, can go okay, We'll be okay,
you know. But if you look at it through the
history of festivals, you know, um, this isn't the first
time happening. It's been a long history of this, you know.
So I feel like if you look at the overall
you know, view of that, and you kind of like dolling, Okay,

(43:12):
what can we do better to fix this overall for
general concert safety? I think we figure out the problem,
you know, um and make it better for people to
have better live experiences. Live Nation reportedly agreed to end
the concert early after the Houston PD and the Fire
Department declared it a match casualty event, but the concert
continued for another forty minutes. Was there any ever any

(43:34):
communication to you on stage that you should in this? Well? Yeah,
I mean it just told me right after you know,
the guests can get off stage, you know, we're gonna
end the show, you know, and that's what we did.
No other than that, there was no other communication, you know,
so after after the guests what you mean, Yeah, after
the guests comes out, okay, we're gonna we're gonna end
the show. But it wasn't a communication on why, you know.

(43:56):
It was just you know, that's what came through my ears,
you know, So they didn't say stopping. Now, know. Wow,
you feel like people are forcing more responsibility on you
because you are the front man, because it was astral World.
Well yeah, I mean, you know, I'm gonna you know,
I'm the face of the festival. You know, I'm an artist,
you know. UM, so yeah, you know, the media is

(44:19):
you know, they yeah, they want to you know, put
it on me, and but at the end of the day,
it's like, I don't think it's more so about that.
I think it's more so about um stepping up to
figure out what the problem is. And I could take that.
I could take you know, stepping up to figure out
what the problem is. I could take stepping into figuring
out the solution that had never happened again, because that's

(44:40):
what I generally want to do in general, even just
for my community. You know. The whole idea for why
I brought this festival to the city was to you know,
show that Houston is something different, you know, and show
that there's all different types of lives, is all different
type of energy, and just bring that morale to the
city and just bring that energy to the city. So

(45:02):
I definitely want to you know, step in to figure out,
you know, how can we fix this in the future,
what can we do to you know, change these things.
You know, do you feel like you did everything you
possibly could to help in that situation? Yes, Yes, anything
I physically care for sure, yes, and it just you know,

(45:24):
if knowing you know what's going on, you know, you
would just wish, you know, if you you know, couldn't
something better, you know. But standing there, all right, we
got more with Travis Scott and Charlemagne there one on
one conversation, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club, Good
morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee, Charlemagne the guy.

(45:48):
We are the Breakfast Club Now. Yesterday Charlemagne did a
one on one interview with the Travis Scott. If you
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(46:08):
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up on my YouTube page shortly. All right, Well, let's
get to part three. It's the Breakfast Club Good Morning.
You know, we know that the families of the people
who passed are definitely watching this right now, and you
know there's nothing you could say to heal the trauma

(46:30):
these families who lost loved ones are you know, are
going through. But being that you know they're watching, what
would you what would you say to them? Directly? I'll
say to them that I'm I'm always here and that
you know I'm you know, I'm I'm in this with
you guys, and I love you, you you know, and I
always you know, be there to help you guys heal

(46:51):
to this. And I understand that they're going through you know,
they're grieving right now and finally understanding right now and
you know, it's not just like a right now thing.
It's for everything. UM. And these people that came to
the show, they are my family. And I've always had
that connection to the people. I feel like they listen

(47:11):
to the music or it came to my shows, and
that's why I really, you know, it's really hard on
me even just you know, t even like you know,
and even because you know they ended up, they they
they lost they lost their loved ones, you know, so

(47:31):
it you know, it's it's tough. UM. I just want
to always just be there for them and just always
just be able to just know that I'm gonna fix this.
For the future people, you know, and and fix this solution.
Um and fix this problem, I mean, you know, um,

(47:53):
and find a solution to making sure that this doesn't
happen in the future. UM, and definitely be a number
one of voice for this. You know. I feel like
that's like one of the what we what we got
to figure out because other than that, it's like, you know,
the show goes on tomorrow or you know, something goes

(48:13):
How does it? How does this get fixed? This could
happen again, just happened before. Yeah, yeah, you're you're you're
a father, you know, God forbid when your kids are
of age, if they're in a situation like this, you
know what you do put yourself in those parents shoes
right now? What would what would you want to see
come of this situation? If you I want to see

(48:34):
people put their heads together. I would want to see
people really figure this out, not take this lightly, you know, um,
and really act on it. And that's you know, that's
one of the main things that's important. I feel like
they gotta just act on it. It can't just be
like something that happens and it just roll over. We

(48:56):
got to be something that's taken serious. And address seriously
and things formed around it. Time and a lot of
a lot of time and a lot of you know,
thinking power is spent on this, you know, and really
fixing you know, whatever system it just needs to be fixed,
you know, from the lawsuits to the media coverage to

(49:17):
do Do you feel like you're personally under attack? I mean,
I mean yeah, I mean you see a name in
it and it and it's like but you know, at
the end of the day, you step in these you know,
you step you want to do a festival, and you
know when we want to do things and you want

(49:37):
to build up. You know, it comes with certain things, right,
So I think it's all about how you respond to it.
And I think it's all about how you react, right
So I could feel that way, but I think more
so about it's more about how I feel about the
response that I that I that I'm that I care
about more so, which is you know, actually, you know,

(49:59):
trying to step in and you know, really step up
to really fixing what's happening and and really step up
for the safety or concert cours or people in just
live spaces period. I wonder, I wonder is there a
way to even prepare for this because nobody, like you said,
when you're doing the planning for a show like this,

(50:19):
nobody is planning for this to happen. So how do
you how do you even prepare for something like this
step I don't know. And I feel like when we
get I feel like, when it comes out a little
bit more how this could have happened. I feel like
that's how we can kind of attack that. But even
I was thinking in ways like tech solutions. You know,

(50:40):
people come into these festivals with these bands that only
scan you in right, you have you know, we have
all type of tech now that can track your heart
contract your you know, oxygen levels, contracting, the sick. You
can put things now if you're gonna be you know,
get lost. It's all type of ways now, like that
can be the band that only gets you access to

(51:03):
entry or to the food line or two food trucks
can now be solvable to helping save lives, you know,
can now be more of a response to people that
are now on site and on ground. Um, I feel
like that could be a way, or you know, even
just figuring out what the exact solution, what the exact
problem of it was, and dialing more into that. I

(51:26):
think you can kind of. I feel like there is
a way. I just think it needs to be time
spent on figuring that figuring that out. Have you been
able to have any personal conversations with any of the
families who lost levels? I was able to, Um, But
you know, I just want to just respect that, you know,
the privacy of the conversation. And I'm thankful for them

(51:47):
for even allowing me to have the conversation. Yeah, how
did you feel when some of the families rejected your
offer to pay for the funerals? All things are understandable,
and you know, at the time, they're grieving and they're
trying to find understanding, and you know, they want answers,
and it's not about it's not about that, you know. UM,

(52:07):
I'm always gonna be here, you know, to want to
help them, you know what I'm saying, And and it's
it's not gonna you know, I gotta continue to show
up for that, you know. UM, I just wanted to
make sure that they knew that I was there for them,
you know what I mean, and continue to be there
for them. UM. I think that's just more so what
it's about for that Um yeah, some people say, um,

(52:31):
your your your music played a role in this, Like
I've seen them, you know, cite lyrics, you know that
encouraged just kind of behavior. I've seen him say your
music is demonic and this was a satanic ritual. You
think your music is to blame? I mean no, I'm
I mean why, I'm a man of God. So that's
the first thing first, and um, you know, so it's

(52:53):
just yeah, that's that. And you know your music is
just like self expression, you know I'm saying. And at
these shows, I feel like people kind of like look
at things. And if you've been the Travis Show, it's
it's been different layers of shows. You know. I think
people are just you know, misconceptions and taking these seeing

(53:14):
and you know all type of things. You know. Um,
and I've I've I've took pride in trying to you know,
grow from where I was when I first recorded music
to now where I'm going in music. Um So yeah,
I just think people gotta and and that's one thing
with me is just people gotta kind of you know,

(53:34):
experience it sometimes. And I think that's what it was.
You know, people were kind of like even before people
were hearing about it, they come and experience it and
taking away their own thing. And it's always going to
be an outside opinion. But you know, for the ones
that you know really believe in me and you know
understand what. You know, what I'm about and what I'm doing. No,
that's not That's not what I'm you know, preaching. I

(53:55):
always preach like love, always preach you understanding. I always preach,
you know, take care of your loved ones. Love each other.
You know what I'm saying, Get out your ideas, never
let never let yourselves be stop, you know, love one
another and step into that, you know. I mean, I
think that's a part of it. But the music does
encourage people to be violent at these shows. I mean,

(54:17):
I mean that's what the rage is about. I mean,
most of the music is its me sometimes talking about
what I see at the shows, you know what I mean.
If I'm talking about the shows, you know, and so
it's just that's just you know, the energy, you know
what I'm saying. But the energy isn't to come and start,
you know, being ultra violent and just being violent and

(54:39):
hurting each other. That's not That's not what it's about,
all right, that's part three of the conversation and one
on one conversation with Charlemagne and Travis Scott and I
don't move. We got more coming up. I usually we
do rumors, but this is, uh, this is more important
this morning, so don't move. It's the Breakfast clubal morning parting.
Everybody is DJ Envy and Charlemagne the guy. We are

(55:01):
the Breakfast Club. Now if he's just joining us, where
playing back Charlomagne's one on one conversation with Travis Scott. Yeah,
we sat. I sat down with Travis Scott to you know,
discuss the tragedy that happened on November fifth at after
World in Houston, Texas. You know, clearly not the easy conversation,
and you know he wants to discuss how he can
help make sure this never happens again, which he doesn't

(55:22):
even know what that looks like yet. But here's the conversation, right,
and we'll take some calls after this. Eight hundred five
eight five one five one. It's the Breakfast Club. His
part four, you said you're a man of God. And
when I even said that, you know they say your
music in Satanic. I saw the face that you made.
What do you what do you think that even comes
from Travis Scott is Satan and Travis scottis. I just
think it's just things people collect. You know, people look

(55:43):
at the Internet and they just collect and they look
at things, and they look at visuals, and you know,
we have all these theorists and people just thinking they're
looking at visuals don't understand you know, just the idea
of like what art maybe, or what what you're trying
to do. You know, they're just making up your own message,
especially when you're not out there like yelling the message
all the time. You know, it's just yeah, and when

(56:04):
they say this is a community event after a world Yeah,
so they say a community event is a Satanic ritual?
How does that? Yeah, It's like it's it's it's crazy
because you know, it's like I do this for people
to have a good time. You know, we have rides,
we have games. You know, it's things for people to
get off, creative experiences. It's not you know, the show
is at the end of the day. You know, it's
like you know and that show is just something based

(56:25):
on on what's you know, just the's things. You know,
It's not like what like why would we wake up
one day and just trying to It's just that's just evil.
It's not what we are part of. Not trying to
be a part of that. We're trying to be a
part of joy, trying to be a part of light,
and trying to be a part of full blown happiness, love,
you know, understanding people taking care of each other, you know, community,
people to leave from these experiences and want to go

(56:47):
out and do good. It's literally what we want, you know,
we want to show them these things. You know, we
put everything into it. You know, this is you know,
this festival. You know, this is our third year, you know,
so we try to put you know, we every year
we put everything into the festival so people can enjoy it.
You know. It's not about even just come perform that

(57:07):
not that, you know, it's things for them to do
all day and different artists for them to experience too.
Have the trauma of just tragedy impacted your desire to
perform in the future. I've always seen performances of art
of healing for me. That's why I've always been so
into it. You know, I don't know if you like,

(57:28):
you know, looked at like some of the growth from
where I'm trying to take performance. I've I've always tried that.
I feel like it's the art of healing. I feel
like it's a moment where people have a mutual understanding,
you know. And I feel like the first things first
before anything is that we address you know, a lot
of safety concerns. I think the first things first is
that because not even just for me, you don't want

(57:52):
other you know, artists to have to go and take
a part of that trauma, to take a part of
that experience, take a part of that, you know, over
that fear. You don't want console girls to still be
a part of that fear. They want you want, you
want them to feel safe, you know what I'm saying.
So I think that's just the first things first. And
I think once we take major steps into moving in
that direction, you know, I feel like, you know, it

(58:14):
could be cool to for people to practice that healing again,
you know, and understand that. I don't think people should
run away from it and shy away from it. I think,
you know, it's it's a it's a form of healing,
you know. You know, no matter what you do at
any of your shows in the future, regardless of how
much security, how much safety you put in place, you

(58:34):
cannot control human behavior. Yeah. Yeah, you can't control forty
fifty thousand people doing whatever they do. Is that's scary?
I mean yeah, but you know you also put trust
in the fans too to you know, just have a
good time. You know, you just reinstill that, and you
know you continue to practice, you know, when you're on stage,
should just remind them, you know, um, and even when

(58:57):
they're there, to just constantly have messages to remind them like, yo,
look if here to have a good time, we're not here.
If you see somebody you know help another you know, um.
I think it's just continue to reinstill that message. I
think helped that mindset if Yeah, so after a world
was one of you know, several ways you gave back
to Houston, do you think you've you know, lost that

(59:17):
privilege to do that. To be honest, I haven't really
like thought about that because I've just been thinking about
just community healing and you know, the family's healing and
you know, all those things kind of building back up.
Um that that could take forever. Though, you know, I
don't know if you ever truly heal yeah, from these
type of situations and you know, but you know, through

(59:41):
these things, you know, like I say, music is part
of healing. And at the end of the day, um,
I don't I just don't, you know, the Travis Scott
show or you know, an asture or show you know,
wasn't the bottom line fact that what happened here, you know?
And I think we just got to figure out what
that was, what happened. But you know, having a Travis

(01:00:05):
Scott show and we've done shows you know, all over
that wasn't the you know, what happened here? You know,
something that happened here, you know, And that's why I
want to fix it, because it can happen anywhere, you
know what I'm saying. And I think once we get
further along in that, I think, you know, you know,
it'd be more a little bit more receptive. I feel,

(01:00:26):
did they make you feel judged? When you see videos,
you know, circulating the other artists stopping their shows like
to check on fans since since after World because almost
like the insinuation from other artists that like, you didn't
do enough, So we don't want to be like driving
I'll take it as you know, they're just taking extra precautions,
you know, because it might not have been something that

(01:00:48):
you know, let's running through their mind at time before,
and they're just taking extra precautions to you know, make
sure they don't run through the same same problems. And
I could commend them for that. You know. I've always
done the same thing, you know, in my prior shows
and at their shows, So you know, I feel them,
you know. I just think it's been a little bit

(01:01:10):
more people are more capturing it now, like because of
what's going on. I think that's just how the media works.
If the families are the victims, never forgive you. Will
you ever be able to forgive yourself? Can you live
with that? No? It's tough, you know, it's real tough,

(01:01:31):
m because I want them to really know that my
intentions wasn't you know, it wasn't the harm their family
at all. It's for them to come and have a
good experience. Um. I've always feel like I have a
connection with my fans, you know, through the music. I
feel like when they come to see me, and it's
not just like oh they're coming, they're coming in, it's
like a connection. Um. And you know, sometimes not knowing

(01:01:55):
you know, people not understanding like artists and where we
come from that it could be the connect and you know,
I would love to you know, instead of understanding and
you know, for them to truly know my heart's from.
You know, it didn't come for them for me to
horror and it wasn't about a show to keep you
know at all. You know, it's a you know, it's
about for them to have you know, one of the

(01:02:17):
you know, a very good time and it's just traged
that it didn't turn out that way. You know. So
I guess my final question, man, who do who? Who does?
Who does Travis Scott? Ultimately, I guess think it is
responsible for this tragedy. You know, something tragic happening here. Well,

(01:02:37):
what I've just been trying to, you know, get to
the bottom of it is just what happened here, how
it happened here? And you know, I think the families
are old, you know that I feel like, you know,
the community is old that I feel like we're old
that to just know what happened here. I don't want
to just speak too soon. I just want to figure
out what, you know, what happened. You know, you know

(01:02:57):
they're going to pick this interview apart, So anything you
want to say to your fans, to the family of
people who lost loved ones, you know, before we get
out of here. I mean, I just want to I
want everyone and can just continue praying for the fans, Um.
I want to continue. I want people to continue praying
for the ones, the fans I was lost, you know.
I want people to continue praying for the families. I

(01:03:20):
want people to continue just reaching out for healing. I
think the more we try to, you know, continue to
let people grieve and continue to be there for people
and you know, checking more people and you know, checking
on your loved ones and just you know that, you know,
I think that's just like one of the most important things.
You know, UM, stand strong through this while we you know,

(01:03:42):
figure out what's going on, you know, and and bring
understanding to these families and to the communities. That's what
we're gonna do. We're gonna send healing energy to everybody involved,
the families, you know, those who were lost, yourself, because
nobody wants tragedies like just appe not at all, So
preventing the moving for it is the only thing we
can do. Appreciate you brother, Yes, sir, absolutely wait wait,

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(01:04:52):
many wait for Charmaine had to make a judgment of
who was going to be on the donkey of the day.
They chose you this club, bitch, Yeah day what Darcy
to Dave goes to me? Okay? Leonardo mclvy ak Charlomagne
to God, I'm gonna tell you why now I'm a good,
god fearing man with a criminal mind state okay. Grew
up on a dirt road in Monkst Corner, South Carolina.

(01:05:13):
Mom was a Jehovah witness English teacher. My father was
an entrepreneurgro did everything from owning a fish market, the construction,
the selling narcotics. It is what it is, It was
what it was. My mother kept a book in my face.
I read everything from my book of Bible stories to
all you there, God, it's me Margaret. Side note, Judy
Bloom sent me and my oldest daughter an autograph copy
of all You their God, It's me. Margaret dropped on

(01:05:33):
the clues bonds for Judy Bloom. Bro. You can't shout
that out with a mask, yo, side okay. She signed
it to Charlemagne and in parenthesis Lenard, love you from
your fan, Judy Bloom. Thank you, Judy. Also side note
to a side note, I ordered some penis enlargement pills
and I've been taking them, and I've been chanting, I must,
I must, I must increase my thrust. I explained it

(01:05:55):
on this week's Bring Idiot's podcast. Go listen. Now, what's
my point here? My point here is that I come
from the dirt all right, South Carolina, eight foot three
all day. That is always in me. Therefore I would
always love the ratchetness of life, even at forty two
years old, married with three kids and a receding headline.
I love ratchetness. I still do hood rat things with
my friends. We just do it at our houses are

(01:06:15):
on vacation when the kids go to sleep. But the
reason I'm giving myself donkey of to day is because
this morning, when I was here by myself, I was
talking about the domestic terrorists that you know hit the capitol,
you know, Vanilla isis And I was still on a
high after listening to all these good country wrap tunes
this morning on title, and I feel I feel stupid.

(01:06:38):
Just listen to how I've been sounding this morning. I've
talked my way out of enough home invasions to know
when something is a setup. Okay. I don't even know
who the trust in government anymore, but I know who
I do trust, and that's no damn body, okay. Period.
And for some reason I started to saying, that's on cryp.
But I'm not a cript. I don't even know why
the hell I would even say something like that. All right,

(01:06:59):
truth all again. Out there, I'm driving in this morning,
I heard you shout out all the gangs. Then I
don't know why I said, I'm gonna be asking you,
you know how I feel aboudy be talking like that's
im crip, and I don't think about it like I
ain't even know crip. Why am I saying I'm walking
in blue dollar gangs though, Mellow, I don't know what's
going on the Pallo. We held it down for the

(01:07:19):
morning while everybody wasn't there. Man appreciate that it's about time.
I don't know who died it made Ju six nine,
but I don't know who died and made me six nineties.
And Mellow, there's quite a three problems with all those statements.
Number One, I don't gang bang, never having my life.
I'm not a crip, not a blood either. I'm nothing.
I'm a man who has therapy to day at three pm.
I'm a man who is scared to order a protein

(01:07:41):
shake from around the corner here and hearing Triedbecca's because
I feel like they keep giving me whole milk and
not owning milk, and I don't have time to spend.
I was on the toilet today and I get dairy bumps.
My point was saying all of this and the reason
I'm giving myself donkey that this is because I just
feel stupid and donkey today. It's all about giving people
to credit they deserve for being stupid. If you read
my first book, the New York Times best selling Black Privilege,

(01:08:01):
and you know, one of my laws in my book
was always give people to credit they deserve for being stupid,
including yourself. And that's what I'm doing right now. The
reason I feel stupid is because I was writing in
the work this morning, listening to the New South playlists
on the title bro. There's some records on there that
make my inner child smile. I mean, there are records
on there that make the hood in me happy. Okay,

(01:08:22):
I'm from South Carolina, the eight four three eight or
three eight six four. When you come from a certain environment,
there is a certain energy that is always in you.
And when you listen to certain music, certain music is
so powerful and it would just have you feeling like
you something you're not. Okay, that's what Pooh shicsty guard
up did for me. Okay, that's play poosh shanty guard en.
Let me hear a little bit of that. Man, come,

(01:08:42):
I just past them up, telling Godel to bunt up
on the key to carmbers of the earn. Somebody apiece
think I applied gold tie so I can put them
in my mouth. Okay, that's what Off the Porch by
my kid Glock did it for me. This morning, I
was listening to the Roaring Twenties by Flow Million. Did

(01:09:04):
my dog Little Boss from North Chalton, southcare a lot
of He's on the New South title playlist and you've
got a song called I Know It. He's from the
same state as me from the Chuck. How can I
not be influenced? Okay, how can I not be? You
know what I feel like right now? I'm at the
point where I'm like a wax on Minutes to Society,
Salute to the good brother MCA. Make sure y'all check
out that gangst the Chronicles podcast on the Black Effect

(01:09:26):
iHeartRadio Network. I'm like a wax I don't did so
much dirt that I just like to see other people
do it. I like to hear it, I like to
feel it. I like to see it. But I'm not
doing it, and you don't have to hear certain records
and it takes you back to your old while loud days. Yes,
so I'm not alone here? Then, yeah, you are a
little bit alone? Mean why why why am I alone?
Because you have a ski mask on and you've been

(01:09:47):
saying on slide. You judging me some on God, why
are waiting a gun? Happy? A fake gun? You're right,
let me put that away, Okay, I'm just saying it
really makes you think about the influence this music is
having on the youth. Because the influenced my grown ass
this morning. But not because they might rap about violence
and doing criminal activities and gang stuff, but because it's fun.

(01:10:08):
It's just fun. I mean, listen to these country rap tis.
Play some of that key clock off the porch. Just
listen to this. It's like, Hey, I jumped up the porch,
then I jumped in the boof. I used to rat
t his piece. Now I got a new coop page.
I'm hugging humble, but I'm playing it out cool. But
don't get this shit ain't out on the news. Hey
come on home, man, But hey, play some of that
flow Milli Roaring twenties, and I'm gonna tell you something.

(01:10:29):
You know, I'm all about the sacred masculine and the
divine feminine. Okay, this right here is for the divine
hood rating all of us. Play some of this roaring
attorneys by flow Millie, Okay, making me feeling come home, man,
that's for all the negroes that want to do the

(01:10:50):
Busteed Challenge, but our needs not what they used to be. Okay, okay,
hey play a snippet of my dog Little Boss. Okay,
I know it's South Carolina all day. Come on now,
she said, like when I saw something first one, I
woke up and I said, I know more now. She said,
she like counster and I'm getting that money and I said,
I know it. They're like, I got that bag on

(01:11:10):
and that's funny man and beat that they're look at
that scrap on being because I know that they after me.
That's when I saw something. I said, And do you
feel me? Fly on trap? Okay, you doing y'a dramas
on guiding them? Give me the biggest feet hall. Okay,

(01:11:32):
we got more coming up. Next to don't Move, Happy Holidays,
Don't go Anywhere. It's the Breakfast Club. Come Morning, the
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Your morning's will never be the same morning. Everybody's DJ

(01:11:52):
Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest in the building. That's right,
he's the head of Instagram. Hi Adam. How do I
say your last name? I don't want to mess it up, Sarissi, Adam,
what's up? My gulco? Thanks for having men joining us.
Tell people what that meets the head of Instagram, CEO
of Instagram, What does that mean? It means that if

(01:12:15):
something goes wrong on Instagram, it's on me, and if
something goes right, it's probably on my team. But generally
I spend as much my time as I can helping
us think about where we're going, what we need to
do better, what we need to double down on because
it's going well, and building the team to help us
get it done. Let's get to the nity gritty because
I saw a lot of people on social media when
you said you would coming here. They have questions, Please

(01:12:37):
bring them. Let's discuss the election first, right because, as
you know, there's a lot of fake news that was
going around, and there were a lot of issues with
Facebook with fake news. You know, how do you guys
take responsibility for your platforms with COVID, with fake news
and things like that happening, making sure that that information
doesn't get spread out. Social media as a technology isn't

(01:12:59):
good and it isn't bad. It just is. And social
media specifically is a great amplifier in a lot of ways,
and it can amplify good and it can amplify bad,
and so it's our responsibility to do all we can
to amplify the good and mitigate the bad. And you
see both spread on the platform, right. You saw the
Black Lives Matter movement spread on social media. You saw

(01:13:21):
me too spread on social media. But you also see
things like misinformation spread on social media. And so we
try to figure out all the different things that we
can do to identify problems and address them and then
also rethink the core of what we do and how
we do it to create better outcomes. And that work
never ends. And so I mean you brought up a

(01:13:41):
couple of different things there, but on misinformation specifically, what
we do is we work with third party fact checkers,
So people who do this for a living, who do
this for publications, we give them access to what's shared
on the platform, and they can dispute things. They can
say that this isn't true and here's a link to why.
And when that happens, we reduce the spread of that
when we label things and we give people links to

(01:14:03):
good information but we don't take it off the platform
entirely unless there's a safety risk. So for things like
COVID nineteen or vaccine related misinformation, we just stick it
off the platform entirely. So at this point we spend
billions of dollars a year and there are tens of
thousands of people between the engineers, the reviewers, and everything
else focused on safety. How liable should social media platforms

(01:14:26):
be in regards to lawsuits, like if I want to
sue somebody for sland our deformation, should I be able
to name the social media platform? Yeah? So this is
actually one of the big legal debates right now. Right
and here in the US they talk a lot about
Section to thirty, which gives technology platforms essentially no liability,
but the people who post that content are liable in

(01:14:49):
different countries around the world that that may not be
the case. Actually it isn't the case. Yea. South Africa
don't play. Yeah, no, a lot of Europe they don't play.
And so the thing that I think is that it's
important that company needs are held to account to take
measures to keep people safe. But I don't think we
can go all the way to have a social media
platform be accountable for every single thing that is said

(01:15:10):
on that platform by every person, because they're over a
billion people on Instagram at this point, and there's there's
no version of that where there aren't going to be
people with problematic opinions, racists, et cetera are going to
show up. I'm not going to check that at the
door when they open up Instagram. But I do think
that doesn't mean that we can just you know, wipe
a hand. The question is where are we on that spectrum?

(01:15:31):
What do you say to people that say that, you know,
social media, Instagram per se, it's really affecting people's mental
where people are are you know, thinking of committing suicide
and you know, having problems in school and self esteem
and all of those things due to that platform. So
there's a range here, and I think they are all
really important questions. There are problems that are really acute,

(01:15:52):
right So if you are struggling with self injury or suicide,
that is I mean, that's high stakes, that's really problematic.
And we've done a lot of work in that area
to try and be thoughtful about what we share, like
getting people access to good information or to help. So,
for instance, right now, if we think you are a
risk to yourself, we will do it, will direct uture

(01:16:12):
resources or even in some extreme cases resources to you.
How do you report that? Right in the reason I'm
stopping you there, Let's say you have a family member
that goals and it's off doing some wild still a
lot of times them themselves don't know that they're doing
wild stuff, but a family member might. How does that
family member report that to Instagram and say, Hey, my
sisters doing this, or my aunt is doing this, or

(01:16:32):
my brother is doing this. How does that work? So
in every post, be a photo, video or anything else
on Instagram, you can always report something. There's a little
dot dot Do you really check it? Because sometimes I
feel like it doesn't get checked because there's so many
people that make fake MV pages. I feel like every
day we've got room number, we definitely check it. But

(01:16:53):
the challenge is the truth is the reports are actually
mostly not of things that are problem. There's a ton
of people who are like, I don't like the way
I look in this photo, and I'm going to report it.
Oh my god, Yeah, it's it's actually the vast Oh,
it's the vast majority, which is imagine that, Yeah, which
is why we can't rely only on the reports. We
definitely check the reports. We prioritize them, right, So if

(01:17:16):
someone's reporting someone's a risk to themselves, we're gonna look
at that much faster than someone's reporting something as being nudity,
for instance. But we have to also build technology ourselves
to go out and try and identify things, because if
someone's going to be a risk to themselves, that's where
you're going live and you're talking about hurting yourself. We
don't want to wait for someone to hopefully report that.
By the way, we don't have a religious opinion on

(01:17:37):
the female nipple. The reason why we don't allow nudaty
on Instagram is because it is actually a safety issue
because we can't verify age and we can't verify consent.
I think social media sometimes protects biggest though, it protects
biggest in regard to racism homophobia, because I've posted videos
of like racists getting punched in the face right for
blatantly being racist, and then Instagram we'll remove it. We

(01:17:59):
definitely make mistake. We also take a lot of flak
for letting people say a lot of crap that we
don't necessarily agree with in general, we're gonna try and
bias towards letting people say what they want on the platform,
and we try to only take content down when there's
a safety risk. Should the FCC regulate social media like
they do radio and TV? They can, and they should.

(01:18:20):
I think regulation is important. I think that social media
is too big to not have governments have an opinion
about what should and should not be. Okay. Now, the
type of regulation, though, is particularly important. Some regulation could
be really helpful, particularly clarifying what is and what is
not you know, a certain problem out of content type.
So for instance, we have a hate speech policy. Hate

(01:18:42):
speech protects people based on nine different types of traits,
so you know, race, gender, religion, the things you would expect.
That's our definition. But you have to be careful because
if you get too aggressive with regulation, or you write
regulation in certain ways, you might incentivize social platforms to
censor more. Right, if you're going to find them a
big amount every time they make a mistake and that's
something up, they're going to take down more because this

(01:19:03):
is their financial interest to do so. Now, another question
I have. You were talking about wanting to make sure
I saw you said that you wanted to make sure
that creatives actually start making more money on Instagram, and
I know they have like the tips that you can
do on YouTube and things like that. Yeah, what are
some ways that you guys? I see the Instagram ads
you can also sign up for, which I'm not one
hundred percent share what that is. So if you want
to explain how people can make money on Instagram, and

(01:19:26):
there's a range of ways we can help creators make
a living. Largely they fall into three categories. The first
is essentially commerce, So you can do branded content, right,
so you get paid by a brand off of Instagram
or off of Facebook, and then you do a deal
and your post on Instagram to promote whatever that is.
But then we also need to do things that allow

(01:19:47):
people to pay the creators that they love directly, right,
So we're interested in things like tipping. So we've got
badges for instance, when you go live right now exploring
if we can support subscripe. Maybe you could have a
group of people who pay you five bucks a month
and you get them exclusive content that only they get,
and you can do that right through Instagram. It's almost

(01:20:08):
like the only fans type of thing where you can
have a subscription, but now the stuff that they subscribe to,
can you put whatever you want up there now? Because
you know who your subscribers are, right, you know their age.
It's almost like you could take that now, you can
show a nipple, you know, because you know who your
subscribers are. All right, yes and no, So if there's
a safety issue, we're still going to have to take
it down. But I mean, for instance, we do do
age gating for certain types of content, so things like

(01:20:30):
today tobacco, that kind of thing. So we could we
could we could explore that we haven't actually talked about
that morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee shall I
mean the guy we are the Breakfast Club was still
kicking in with Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram. Is
it a trick to it? Though? You know, at a
lot of people are like, hey, it's a trick when
I post my videos because sometimes I post a video
or picture and I get this amount of likes, and
then sometimes it's on this page and I get this

(01:20:52):
amount of likes. Yeah, like, you know, was a trick
to maybe. I'm like, I'm not giving up my tricks.
I would I'm trying to figure too. I've got an account,
I'm trying to build up my following. The unfortunate truth
is there's no perfect answer, and it's the million dollar question.
There are a couple of things I'd say. One is
it's important to first when you're using whether it's Instagram

(01:21:14):
or any other social media platform, to be intentional about
what you're using it for. Are using it to promote
a cause that you believe, and are using it as
a business directly, are using it to just build up
awareness of your business, and you make your money elsewhere.
The other thing to be honest about is that every
audience is different, right, So what's going to work best
for your followers isn't necessarily probably not going to work

(01:21:35):
with what's best for my followers. So you and I
both have to experiment. We've got to try things, see
what works, see what doesn't. But there are other things
that are more broadly true. So I do think it's
generally true to give people a good sense of what
you're about and what you do. So I try to
build up these sort of patterns. So I do a
video every week where I talk about what's happening on Instagram.

(01:21:56):
Video also this seems to be a lot of interest
across the entire world and always consuming more videos. So
some of those basics are more universal, but a lot
of it is more nuanced. Unfortunately, what is Instagram learning
from the black creators on TikTok so the black strike
on TikTok, Black credit struck on TikTok, I think is
mostly about credit right too often Black creators will create

(01:22:18):
amazing things and not creat credit for it, and someone else,
often not black, who will reap all the benefits. But
we're trying to understand not just that, but the broader
set of issues and the big set of issues that
we've heard from the black community here in the States
and over the last year and a half are things
around censorship, shadow banning, racism on the platform, having your
content taken down when you fight back against the bigot

(01:22:40):
or a racist. And so we feel like the credit
stuff that TikTok is dealing with is important and we're
looking we're working on that, but we really got to
first do better on the basics because we don't really
even have a right to play in like the creator
monetization space unless we can get better on the issues
around content takedowns, account suspensions like little Boosey. Yeah, okay,

(01:23:02):
you know, little Boozy gonna stop calling you out now
he's been saying you know who. Now surprise, I'm surprised
he hasn't sit them in my DM. You know now.
Adam was sorry, you guy right here. I can't wait
to see him later on. Adam Moossary, Adam Mossary. It's
Mossi with seven essays. Now what about limiting screen? No no,

(01:23:26):
why doesn't Boozy keep getting taken down? We gotta drug
the line somewhere and it's it's a nudity policy. We
try to be clear. You can appeal, but if you
get too many strikes to think you know what's nudity?
Because I flagged Kim Kardashi in ten thousand times. Remember
when Kim posted a picture Why would you do it?
Because they don't take cut down, but they take everybody

(01:23:46):
out there. So I flagged it. If she posts a
picture of nipples getting taken down. If the guy, no, guy,
this is one. This is one of my man. Nipples
are allowed, so I should be clear one of one
of one of my favorite tricks that people who are
sort of nudity advocates talk about One of my favorite
tricks that they do is they'll take a mail nipple,

(01:24:08):
cut it out, and paste the mail nipple on a
female's breast and post that just to test our policies.
If we figure it out, that's allowed. You know, This
is what it means to be a platform with as
much reach as we have, is you're gonna have people
try to push you and figure things out. Does Instagram
understanding cult it all? Right? Because you have people like
little Duvall Little Booty whose page always get taken down,

(01:24:29):
and it could be for doing things like using the
N word, but they're using it in like the context
of that's my N word, but it'll get taken down
for like racial slurs really like yeah, yeah. So it's
tough because no, we don't understand culture perfectly at all,
just super clear, you can't at our scale. And so
there are things where we just have to draw the

(01:24:49):
line or define a rule that is practical for us
to actually enforce, because the perfect rule is going to
be nuanced, but the perfect rule we cannot enforce accurately
and consider certainly tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions
of times a day or whatever it is. And so yeah,
there are certain racial slurs that you cannot say on Instagram,
regardless of how you identify. Now, that's just because we

(01:25:13):
don't think we would be able to get it right
enough of the time. We would make too many mistakes otherwise,
and it's better for us to be transparent about the
rule and then be able to act accordingly. And you
can make your own decision. What about limiting screen time
because I know that was a discussion that people have.
You know, your phone will tell you how long you've
been on all of these apps. Is that something in
Instagram that people are concerned about? Like? Are you concerned

(01:25:33):
about that people being addicted and constantly on their phone?
I mean, for me, it's everything in moderation. But I
also want to be clear there's a difference between like addiction,
which is a compulsion to do something that is unhealthy
for you that you cannot stop, and just problematic use
or overuse people that are addicted to social media, though
some are and some just use it too much. And
so what we try to do is decide for the difference.

(01:25:55):
So if you're in a really problematic state, how can
we intervene? How can we let you know how much
time you're spending, etc. But if you're just using it
a lot, the things that we need to do might
be different. Replace what you say with cocaine, some people
aren't addictive, but some people just use it too much.
I don't know if I can talk about that same
thing with the same thing, because if you're using it
too much, you clearly have like a draw to it

(01:26:17):
that you can't control. Right, But I think cocaine is
a drug, and a drug has serious medical, you know, implications.
I think social media will in the future, I don't.
I think psychologically, emotionally, mentally, we do not. Even we're
not even scratching the surface of social media is impact
people in the future, I think that's reasonable. But I
also think that every new technology is first met with
a wave of optimism. People are really excited about what

(01:26:38):
it can do, then a huge wave of concern, and
then ideally you get to some sort of balance, and
by the way, as you get through it, the media
itself or the technology itself gets better. I think social
media is a technology that's just said earlier in that phase.
So yeah, I'm sure use of social media can affect
your health. Like because communicating with anyone can affect your health,

(01:26:59):
and social media is just a way to connect. Let's
talk about that because I feel like social media is
changing human behavior in real life, is making people's collective
attention spans decrease, is making people in secure. I think
it's fueling narcissism. So how do you make it a
more mentally healthy environment? I think that there's really three
types of work I personally think we have to do.

(01:27:20):
The first is to identify acute issues. You know, if
people who are at risk of self injury are becoming
more at risk, how do we address that. How do
we make sure that they can still do what a
lot of people who are struggling with self injury deal
on social media, which is get support, get help. It's
important to talk about your experience. Maybe you're you know,
your thirty days clean and you want to celebrate that.

(01:27:42):
How do we allow that content on Instagram without content
that celebrates self injury? So, you know, identify qute issues,
Identify solutions that work never ends, keep working there. Then
I think we need to identify areas where we can
go further, where we can be innovative, where we can
define new ways of addressing the issues. Like one of
the ones that we're been focused on for about two
years now, I was bullying, And so then what can

(01:28:03):
we do there? And there were trying to invent new things,
things like restricts. Right, restrict allows you to block someone
without you knowing about it. That's my favorite thing to
do because they're still posting, but they don't know that
no one can see it about them. Yeah, and so
that was from our work on bullying. But then the
third area is what are the core things about how
Instagram works or social media works that we need to rethink.

(01:28:25):
That's why we experimented with and made it so that
people could pick to have light counts to be private.
For instance, are there core things that we need to
rethink because they are creating too much bad or too
many problems and not enough good. What about taking away likes?
I remember that was a flirtatious idea. Yeah, so the
idea is to allow you to well, originally was to
hide light counts so you could still like things, but

(01:28:47):
it would be less of a popularity contest, but you
could see it but not everybody else. Yes, it turned
out to be really polarizing. It didn't seem to change
much about how people felt about Instagram. We tried to
see if it changed people well being. We try to
measure well being your question by asking people sending These
are surveys. So essentially we work with academics, professionals, experts

(01:29:09):
outside of the company who have defined all sorts of
ways of measuring well being. So what they did is
they designed a set of questions that whose answers correlate.
So if you if you say you have a support network,
if you say you are not lonely, these things correlate
with real world wellbeing outcomes over the long run. And
so then we try to run surveys on Instagram and
ask people those same questions, and we try to see

(01:29:30):
for things like hiding lightcounts that change how people answer
those questions. It didn't. But some people love this and
some people hated it. And so what we did is,
you said, all right, well, given that, let's give people
a choice. You can decide you can hide light counts
and not have to be part of your Instagram experience,
or you can have light counts. Well more, we have
more with the head of Instagram, Adam Musseri. When we
come back is the Breakfast Club, Good morning, the Breakfast Club,

(01:29:56):
more Abidas, dj Envy angela Ye, shallow me and the
guy we are. The Breakfast Club was still kicking with
Adam Museri, the head of Instagram, tired of seeing if
I like her booty or not. I'm tired of bitcoin
because you should invest with this person. The word is sam.
I didn't know where he was talking about it something
long and hard. I don't get that one, but go ahead,

(01:30:19):
I get that so much like this, like it's ridiculous
and why stops? Yeah, so some of this happens just
because we make the mistakes and we think you're interested
in things that you're not interested in. And so right
now you can say, right, all, yeah, why would why
would you think? Are the ads? Are there just a

(01:30:40):
regular like spam much like comments comments spam? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
you're talking about spam in the comments, right. I thought
you were talking about like in your explore. No, this
is spam you're getting. If you're getting, you want a
long and hardened and explore. It's like trying to address this.

(01:31:02):
I'm ordering no, pedith, ordering penis and lament. This some delicate,
delicate you know, answer to this question was like, like,
what are you following? Man? Okay, way better now, Thank
you for making me feel good about it. If I

(01:31:23):
wasn't to explore with you know it teach their if
it's no judgments, No, it's in the comment picture right
now and within spams. Yeah, so this is yeah, so
the bots and the spam comments. So we are working
on this. One of the things is we've made less

(01:31:44):
progress on this issue as some other issues because we've
prioritized things like safety issues. But we've gotten better at bots.
But the thing is the spammer is and the bots
they've gotten more sophisticated. So we do things we look like, okay,
if you comment every second of the day, twenty four
hours a day, you're not a person. You're so like,
we shut you down. But they've gotten sophisticated. They mask
themselves at different phones, they do it on different intervals,

(01:32:05):
they pretend to sleep, they do all of this stuff,
and so it's it's a it's an arms race, so
to speak. As we get better at addressing issues, they
work around those issues, and then we got to get
better addressing those new issues. I should hire them. They
seem pretty We try, we try, we know we try
what about getting verified? People always want to know how
can I get ver Yes, there's people that are like,
I can pay if you pay me, I can get

(01:32:25):
you a scam scam, No, don't um. So you can
apply in the app the point of verification though it's
not supposed to be a status symbol. It's supposed to
be a way for people who are getting impersonated to
be able to signal to the world what their real

(01:32:46):
account is. Now it's turned into a status symbol. I
get that, but that was not ever the intent. You
can apply in the app. What we look for essentially
is notability. We try to evaluate it using third parties,
so we basically look for press about you. There's no
in them follow our account. If you don't get approved
in the vast majority of the cases, it's because we
couldn't find enough press about you. Let's say I've search

(01:33:08):
cars and then all I'll get his cars, car car car,
car car car, or if I search your phones, or
I'll get his phone phone and phone phonell do you
guys do that? And can we take that off so
I don't have to see that all day long? Forgive
search and I can be talking about something we don't listen.
We don't listen. My wife thinks I'm a liar on
this too. It's a real cast and fight at the home.

(01:33:28):
Um okay, So on the search or on ads more broadly,
so this is this adds where this will happens. Ye,
they'll explore. It is a little tippy too, like if
I express a little bit too much interest in something,
I get a lot of that thing for a couple
of whiles. So we're trying to get to better um
balance there. But on ads you can't. You can go
to your ad preferences and you can say I'm interested in.
It will show you what we think you're interested in,

(01:33:49):
and you can change them. Um. And so that's over
undersettings under your profile and or ad preferences for listening.
We are not listening. It would be a gross violation
of policy. Would also drain your battery, your phone would
turn on like you would be able to know it.
But all the time we get accused of this. I
think what is happening is one sometimes the advertising is
actually working. Like you saw it a couple of times

(01:34:10):
and then you thought about it, and then you know,
and then you noticed it and you talked about it.
I don't have a bible to make you put you
I will put my hand on it. I don't know
how to I'm not going to convince you. Clearly that's
a weird thing to do. If you want me to
do it, I'll do it. Um. I think also is

(01:34:30):
that we don't just show you ads based on what
we know about you. We show you ads based on
you know what your friends seem to like. We call
that collaborative filtering. And ads are good, like we're good
at figuring out what you're interested in. We don't always
get it right. We make mistakes. I know a lot
of people don't like ads, but we think that ads
fundamentally they allow small businesses to play on an equal

(01:34:51):
playing field with big businesses. And then it woul happened
to you. Have you been talking about something then you
look down at your Instagram the ad for it pops up.
Not directly, no, but I've definitely they had things been like,
how the hell did we know I was interested in that?
How many meanings did you have to be in the president?
That was that a huge conversation. It was an intense conversation,
but it was an intensity of circumstances we didn't have

(01:35:13):
a policy for what happens when a sitting president incites
a riot to try to prevent the peaceful transfer of
power to a new president. There's sort of the new
territory for all of us lying this whole presidency. Though, yeah,
I could have took them down early on, right, But
we don't have a policy against lye. We have a
policy against lying when they're safety risks. You could make

(01:35:34):
that case here. But we also want to make sure
that politicians can get health accountable for their actions, and
so they've had historically in certain areas different rules, the
same way public figures have different rules. But that was
an intense moment, and we have this thing that we
call the Oversight Board now because a lot of these
decisions we think shouldn't be made by us directly, So
we sort of built this board. It's independent, and we

(01:35:56):
made this decision and then we asked them for their
opinion on it. Basically, um, they did. But what I
would have done, which they said, is like, yeah, we
would have banned them too, But you have to have
a policy. You can't just like do it something, you know,
as a one off. And I think that was fair.
And then we defined a policy now and he suspended
four two years. Who owns the pictures that you post?
Because it was a rumor that you own a pictures

(01:36:17):
so we own a pictures. Instagram does not own the pictures. Yeah,
once every year or two we get a false declaration
that like, you don't own your stuff and if you
repost this random chain letter, you own it and it
goes viral. But then we try to go on correct
that as quickly as possible and make sure people know
what the real rules are. I wonder about the intention.
I wonder what the intention was when they first started

(01:36:39):
a lot of these sites. But also when you see
Frankenstein becoming Frankenstein, when do you know, maybe it might
be time to take down Frankenstein's Frankenstein the whole thing.
At this point, it feels like it like when you
watch movies, like when you watch the communities, like the
Social Dilemma on Netflix. What goes through your mind that
specific one, though, I felt like it was a little
bit dramatic triplet programmers like in a Star Trek place

(01:37:02):
deciding what you see is clearly on how things work.
But overall I thought they were bringing up in portant
issues that should be talked about. I thought that's a
healthy thing. Now, Look I'm biased. I want to recognize
that up front, but I really believe that we do
a lot of good in the world. We help a
lot of people express themselves. We help them go straight
to their fans or to the or to their friends,
they don't have to go to traditional media. We will

(01:37:24):
help small businesses around the world. We help marginalized communities
around the world in a lot of ways. But there's
bad that comes to now. I think there's more good
than bad. So I don't think that it makes sense that,
you know, put a bullet in Frankenstein to use your
metaphor right the playing field for people too in a
huge way. Like I love to see how like a
Lala Milan or a DC young Fly, how some of
these creators have been able to really use social media

(01:37:46):
to get the platforms that they have now. But then
I hate qing on and then I hate the fact
that there was an attempted cool of the government on January.
So it's like, I really feel like we're headed do
some orson wells war the world type because of nobody
cares about the truth on social media when the lives
more entertained. Well, I think confirmation bias is a thing,
and that's the oldest time. People want to hear what
they agree with and they don't want to hear what

(01:38:07):
they don't agree with. Just give me the keys to
the nuclear code. Just tell me. Just give me and
I can just go in and delete pages. That's it.
I can do that. I got time. It's a lot
of people, it's a lot of I got it. Just
give me the keys to the nuclear code. But the
concerns you have, like I said before, we had those
concerns about every major new technology, particularly around the ones

(01:38:27):
that change how people communicate. One of the big concerns
about writing when it first existed was that there was
no one there to disagree with you. Well, those people
get held liable though, Like you can sue an author
for playing the defamation. That's why they take to change
names in books and things of that nature. But for
certain issues, yeah, But for other issues, no, you could
say something, you can make a case for something that
is really problematic in a bunch of different ways, put
it out there and it doesn't violate along in any country.

(01:38:50):
You can sue for defamation on social media too. Though, right,
if somebody says something about you that's defamatory and not true. Yeah,
I think the question is who's accountable is the person
who said it or the platforms or the platform And
I think the platforms need to be held accountable for
taking not just reasonable, but like meaningful measures to reduce
these problems. I don't think it's sustainable for us to

(01:39:12):
be accountable for everything everybody says, because if we were,
we would have to take down so much content that
you would have a huge censorship issue. We appreciate you
for joining us so little do I mean little Boozy's
pages down because of nudity? Sorry do boh? I don't
know off the top of that. I'll look it up though. Okay,
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(01:40:43):
an entrepreneurgro did everything from owning a fish market, the construction,
the selling narcotics. It is what it is, It was
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all you there, God, it's me Margaret side note. Judy
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with three kids and a receding headline. I love ratchetness.
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(01:41:46):
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(01:42:06):
to how I've been sounding this morning. I've talked my
way out of enough home invasions to know when something
is a setup. Okay. I don't even know who the
trust in government anymore, but I know who I do trust,
and that's no damn body okay. Period. And for some reason,
I started to saying, that's on crip. But I'm not
a crips. I don't even know why the hell I
would even say something like that. All right, Sluth dollar

(01:42:28):
gangs out there, I'm driving in this morning. I heard
you shout out all the gangs. Then I don't know
why I said, I'm gonna be asking you, you know
how I feelbody be talking like that's on crip and
then I don't think about it, like I didn't even
know crip. Why am I saying I'm walking in blue
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to Pall held it down for the morning. Why everybody

(01:42:49):
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don't gang bang, never having my life. I'm not a cript,
not a blood either. I'm nothing. I'm a man who
has therapy today at three pm. I'm a man who
is scared to order a protein shake from around the

(01:43:10):
corner and hear in tribecas because I feel like they
keep giving me whole milk and not owning milk. And
I don't have time to spend hours on the toilet
today and I get dairy bumps. My point was saying
all of this, and the reason I'm giving myself donkey
to day is because I just feel stupid, and donkey
today is all about giving people to credit they deserve
for being stupid. If you read my first book, the
New York Times best selling Black Privilege, and you know

(01:43:30):
one of my laws in my book was always give
people to credit they deserve for being stupid, including yourself.
And that's what I'm doing right now. The reason I
feel stupid is because I was writing in the work
this morning, listening to the New South playlists on a
title bro. There's some records on there that make my
inner child smile. I mean, there are records on there
that make the hood and me happy. Okay, I'm from

(01:43:51):
South Carolina the eight four three eight or three eighty
six four. When you come from a certain environment, there
is a certain energy that is always in you. And
when you listen to certain music, certain music is so
powerful and it would just have you feeling like you
something you're not. Okay, that's what Pooh shysty guard Up
did for me. Okay, that's play pool shasty guard Um.
Let me here a little bit of that man comes

(01:44:11):
up to bunt up on the key to car members
of the early Somebody think I applied gold Team so
I can put them in my mouth. Okay, That's what
Off the Porch by by by kid Glock did for
me this morning, Evey, I was listening to the Roaring
Twenties by Flow Million. Did my dog Little Boss from

(01:44:34):
North Chalton, southcare Lotty. He's on the New South title
playlist and you've got a song called I Know It.
He from the same state as me. He from the Chuck.
How could I not be influenced? Okay, how can I
not be? You know what I feel like right now?
I'm at the point where I'm like a wax on
minutes to society sleut to the good brother MCA. Make
sure y'all check out that gangst the Chronicles podcast on
the Black Effect. I heart radio Network. I'm like a wax.

(01:44:56):
I don't did so much dirt that I just like
to see other people do it. I like to hear,
I like to feel it. I like to see it.
But I'm not doing it, and you don't have to
hear certain records and it takes you back to your
old while out days. Yes, so I'm not alone here? Then, yeah,
you are a little bit alone. I mean why why
why am I alone? Because you have a ski mask
on and you've been saying on slide you judging me

(01:45:17):
some on God? Why are waiting a gun? Happy and
fake gun? You're right, let me put that away, Okay,
I'm just saying it really makes you think about the
influence this music is having on the youth, because they
influenced my big grown ass this morning. But not because
they might rap about violence of doing criminal activities and
gang stuff, but because it's fun. It's just fun. I mean,

(01:45:39):
listen to these country rapus play some of that key
clock off the porch. Just listen. It's like, Hey, I
jumped off the porch. Then I jumped in the book.
I used to wrap this piece and now I got
a new coopet humble, but I'm playing it out cool,
but don't get this shit on the news. Hey, come
on home, man, But hey, play some of that flow
Milly Roaring twenties, and I'm gonna tell you something. You know,
I'm all about to sacred masculine and the divine feminine. Okay,

(01:46:02):
this right here is for the divine hood ratting all
of us play some of the rowing attorneys by floor Millie, okay,
making me feeling. Come home man, that for all the
negroes that want to do the Busteed challenge. But our
needs not what they used to be. Okay, okay you hey,

(01:46:24):
play a snippet of my dog little Boss. Okay, I
know it South Carolina all day. Come on now, she said,
like when I saw something first one I woke up
and I said, I know more now she said, she
like counster and I'm getting that money And I said,
I know It're like got that bag on back and
that's funny, man, And they're like at that scrap on
because I know that they after me. That's when I

(01:46:46):
saw some now and do you feel me fly on trap? Okay,
you do it, yo, dramas on guiding them. Give me
the biggest he hall okay and take me to court
right now. This guy forgot these forty years old, has
three forty two, it has three kids. I need to

(01:47:06):
go to breakfast club called put me on trial right now.
Make me sit in my old ass down somewhere. Ladies
and gentlemen call us up right now. Eight hundred five
A five one than five one now, Charlomne the guy
a k A. Leonard mckelby, a k A fake ass
crift ak A fake ass live a k A six
D reincarnated. Does he have a problem right now? Is
he to be having music influenced him like this? Right now?

(01:47:30):
He has a ski mask on. He's been saying bad
black with his little shoot two two two gun that
he has in his hand. That's a fake gun. That's
his finger. I'm holding his sideways too, then what it's
throw with him? Right now? You'll stay away from me?
Eight D five A five one than five. Is this
guy too oh to be having music influenced him like that? Oh?
Way too? Only be having music influenced us like that?

(01:47:50):
Because I can take what um gang stuff with um blood,
what um cub um gang. What I'm saying, you take
take it by ba ba bay, that's right to take
it back to dirty queens. And that's what I'm talking about.

(01:48:11):
That's what I'm talking about, all right. It's the breakfast club,
go morning. She she came, but she's gonna slide right
to my side. I ain't know. She pulled up with
her friends. Then we skirt off in the bend. Took

(01:48:32):
her back to my crib, and I regretted. She trying
to feel like she asleep, so she tried to stay
the whole week. I'm like, whole Nah, she gotta go
ask me a name as well. I don't even know.
They want to know why to kill them. They by them.
I ain't green. They might your ship about me. They
want to know why I didn't love them so much?

(01:48:54):
Like what is the reason? It's just the vibe dot com.
She but herles in the sky whenever I look. She
got her clothes off from the book and she won't
waste no time for you know and nobody else. I know,
but I ain't can't be what she wants, stay or
have the same story they I'm gonna mee to themselves.

(01:49:17):
But I'm a jealous to see thee my palace. What
I'm gonna do because I want she and she and
she and they loved them some me. I ain't agree.
They're gonna say, bite you. I ain't you gotta lie
to I ain't even do that. You could trust on
speaker when you're with your people, because you know the timing.
I'm home. I ain't wanna she and she and she

(01:49:40):
and they loved them some me. I can't even speed
to all them. So I call her on the FaceTime.
She gonna pick up on the first ring. We gotta
rather my damn finger. I will ever tell us so
on on on Girl we Bro Life of a Goddess.
It's topic top the phone called eight hundred five eight

(01:50:06):
five one oh five. Want to join it to the
discussion with the breakfast club. Talk about it morning, everybody
in stej Envy Angela, yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are
the breakfast club. Now if you just joined as Charlemagne
came to work this morning, a little um under the influence, yeah,
under the under the influence of country rap tunbs. Okay,

(01:50:27):
I deserve to be in breakfast Club Court. This morning,
I feel stupid. I've been in here gang banging on
the radio and I just feel like I'm too old
and still be influenced by music. Ital I promise you.
It literally was the New South Playlist on title listening
to stuff like key Glock off the Porch and my
Man Little Boss. I know it and you know, pooh
shsty guard up. It really really, really really took me

(01:50:51):
to a place that I absolutely enjoy. Yeah. So so
we're asking if Charlemagne, are we all too old to
be uh influenced by me music? Right now? I don't
think so. Bro, you know what I'm saying. I really
don't And I have no reason for saying that other
than I just really enjoy it. Are we going through
a middle life practice? I don't think so. You still,
you know, like Charlemagne, you have a ski mask drink

(01:51:14):
drinking Starbucks? Like? What is that? It's called balance? Is
that a boogie gangster? Like? What it's called balance? Think?
Game bankers don't need caffeine, But I don't know you
need energy to do a drive by too? Okay, you
think I have just put money on people's head without uh,
you know, a little latte Okay, Hello, who's this? This
is hey Virginia. You know you know your boy's up

(01:51:35):
here with a ski mask on, drinking a latte. I
love it with a pinky in the AD's a little weird.
We have to lift, we have to do. I'm for three.
I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Hey, I'll be in my car
and sometimes I'll be you know, I could be a
fuck I could be a sweetheart. But listen, keep doing it.
Thank you, baby, That's what I'm talking about. Jackie Killed, Florida. Hello,

(01:52:02):
who's this guy's crazy? John? Hey? John? What are you
calling from? Called from Florida? Yell? You know what, I
don't think it's a good thing when you got a
bunch of Florida people around. John Charlota Mane has a
ski mask on on right now, he's drinking a latte
with his pinky in the finger. I don't know what
he wants to do with that pinky. I don't know,
but but you think his ass is too old? Fallers, man,

(01:52:23):
sit your old ass down somewhere. Man, how old are you, sir?
I'm thirty three. Oh you're thirty three? Okay, you're still
living out your old wild out days. You're still cheating
on your girl. I did that. I did that when
I was swing. I got arrested phot times and one year. Congratulations.
What was the biggest charge? The biggest one was a
home invasion. What music were you listening to when you
did that home invasion? I'm for Florida, man, I listen

(01:52:46):
kind of stuff. Man, y'all, I don't even know applies. Okay,
you know probably Kodak. Now that was that was a
while ago. That was a while ago. All right, go
that's the middle school that there. But you got your
life together now? Yeah, definitely definitely that you got a family.
You're right that boy, brother, thank you? You know what
got that? When you say that once you once you
see that, once you add that you got a family.

(01:53:07):
That's like when a gang banger say on God and them,
he gonna do something to you want somebody tell you,
sit you all down, you got a family. That's when
you get back through reality. He right, Hello, Christian out
of fully Hey, Christian out of Philly. Good morning Christian. Now,
now Charlottagne, is ass too old to be wilding out
to this music? No, I don't know that's what you're
supposed to be doing. Listen, it's balance of life. It's

(01:53:28):
the yang and the yang, It's the drug deal and
a professional because every morning I'm listening to King King Vond,
I'm from fully and I'm not from I do that
every morning and then I do my professional nine to
five and when I come home with Zaca, Jackal Felliman
and all of that. So you need balance, a balance.
I agree with you. Ratchetness and righteousness is the right exactly.

(01:53:48):
I'm with you with music too. I'm with you because
because I did the same thing. I woke up this morning,
I meditated, I had my beads in my hand, I
was doing my mantras and then I'm going to therapy
at three o'clock. But when I was dripping in the work,
it was them country rap tunes. Bro Listen, We're moving
a weight, were moving away. I really like that work.

(01:54:09):
All up and down ninety five. We got our page
and waves. We are professionals. With our parents, we have
our pta, they love us, but we curved up. That's
what you gotta do. What you you, Joe, you sell
drugs in the morning, right hair for me doing it,
and that's right. She's representing for all the people out

(01:54:31):
there who still want to do the Bucket Challenge, but
that needs not what they used to be. But we
out chair babies because I'm a mama and I'm not
posting it. Hey, let's go Hello. Who's this? Yo? The kids?
It from Arcosol? Gag game? Bro? What's up? Bro? How
old are you can't I'm putting brokay ban see y'all day.

(01:54:54):
I'll bank that see y'a all day. I don't even
know what that means. What's that means? Bro? That's that's
right Christ? With that? I thought the seeds for Christ
all day. So when you're banging the Christ, when you're
throwing up that that seat for Christ? Hey, south gang,
what do you listen to? I listened to I ain't
gonna lie Young Thug, whole lie. I listen to Drake.

(01:55:16):
I listened know. I ain't gonna lie. You know, I
told some uh, I thought some maybe y'all Adams maybe?
And I like the balance. I love the balance King
from Young Thug to Orlanda Adams. I love the balance.
Now you you got you nine? Charlotta made forty two.
Charlotte maybe be banging out this every morning? Yeah he can,

(01:55:37):
he can he can have balance. He can bang right,
bang left. That's right in the middle, right, right, middle. Yo,
you can tell his daughter Joe kid clean kitchen. That's
right on this on the set, Oh my goodness, on
the set. You better have that kitchen clean. Hello. Who's this? Yes? Hi? Right?

(01:55:58):
Listen this from the dead be in Ohio now in
Charlemagne too, only be Gang Gang in this morning. I'd
have to second emotion, yes, but I have to add
myself put too. I'd be thinking, I'm just ratchet. You
talk about Luda Pete popping. Oh my god, I'm thirty
three years out with two kids that I had me going.
I ain't ever peep popping out life. But I can't

(01:56:18):
work talking about Gucci and Jeezy, I'll be talking I'm
about to shoot somebody when I'm made years off. No, yes,
you do have your momas. They do influence. Shoo. Now listen,
Jeez and Gucci. That was our error. We were still
in our old wild out days when they was in
their prime. These new these these new negroes different, these
new Negroes to take you someplace even further than Jeez

(01:56:39):
and Gucci. Them didn't they're telling you they didn't have
you on way literally and don't you and don't act
like you ain't never did no people off because you
said you got three kids. Okay, honey, I got to
and I have, but I don't know how to do
it on my hand stand. Clearly don't know how to
do something that man whoever you like. Then, baby daddies
you got to do eli. They're doing fluid doing fluid

(01:57:00):
from and I have my rapting moments too when I've
been a food bus driker for eight years. The them
baby daddys you got released their ancestors in you for
a reason. You know how to pop something on something? Honey.
Yes we're not on the hand stand right but on
a back dad stand. Okay, I'm telling you all right,

(01:57:20):
well don't move. Happy Holidays. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. All right, Well, you got a
positive note positive notice simply this. Maybe you're not healing
because you're trying to be who you were before the trauma.
That person doesn't exist anymore because there's a new you
trying to be born. Breathe life into that person. Breakfast

(01:57:43):
club you finish with, y'all dumb

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