The Breakfast Club Talks With Tonya Lewis, Lee, Bun B, VMA Noms and Homophobic Lawmakers

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dang. Whenever I come to the breakfast club, I call
it's the hot seat. You're gonna yo't even doing you
so petty? Yo? Are you so petty? The world's most
daint this morning, Joe DJ ter this bitch, Angela stay
in everybody's business, but in a good way, Charlomagne, the guy,
the ruler, rubbing you the wrong way. The breakfast club

(00:23):
ain't for everybody. Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
yo yo yo yo. Good morning Angela, Ye, good money jam. Charlomagne,

(00:46):
the guy, piece of the planet. Guess what day it is?
Guess what day it is? Hum ha, Yes it's Wednesday,
hump day, middle of the week. Oh man, we hear
what's happening? How y'a feeling? Man? Mega Millions jackpot is
over a billion dollars? Oh yeah, clearly nobody won and
nobody money won. Yes, there was some you know ticket winners.

(01:08):
People want like a million dollars here and there, but
no big winner. I gotta check mine. Nobody in this
room one even. I'm about to play now. Yeah, I
think I would come to work if I wont still
for a few days because you don't want everybody didn't
know yet, who's gonna know? I just said I got COVID.
Then I'll beat it down there cash to come to
work and feel good about it. I'm gonna say I
got COVID. I'm gonna be down there cashing my check,

(01:28):
and then you know, I'm praying to see what God
takes me in life. Yeah, see what God come. I'm
not I'm not even gonna I'm just gonna chase my
number one. Yeah, Billy, I don't know what I would do.
To be honest with you, I'll say we all say
what we would do when we get that that that
that hit hit that mega million. But who knows. I
played the Mega millions all the time, so this ain't
nothing new. I played Mega millions of power Ball all

(01:49):
the time. I'm playing Powerball since it came to South
Carolina as part of the Powerball South Carolina Education Lottery,
So it's just a habit at this point. And if
you cash out, you get about six hundred million dollars.
I'm fine with that. That's cool, Yep, that's cool. Yeah,
one point seven. How is that gonna look? On this
one billion. It's one billion one point two five. How
does school look on the sign? You know, when you're

(02:09):
driving and you see the sign and say, I don't seen.
That's like when you try to put a number in
to calculate it, it's two highs or it just end
up being a bunch of zeros. I wonder what that's
gonna look like. I wonder if you take that monthly
payout or whatever what that is. I would never I
would never take that the one lump zone. Yeah, that's
people that Joes don't play a lot of you take
that love keeping. That's right. Give me that one lump

(02:32):
taxes though already need that lump sum. Why not? Yeah,
I wouldn't be able to give it to my family,
give it to people I want to give it to,
and friends like I ain't waiting still give it. That's
a lot of money all the time. I don't want
to give me my money, mister crazy when they get
all that money at once, Uncle Sam, take what you
need to take and you know I'll figure out the rest.

(02:53):
Absolutely fine. No allowance and you know what. Shout out
to Jose to credit duty. He's been up here yesterday.
He had had a kickball game, its first annual kickball game.
And what it was was it was Dominican bro I mean,
I just played kickball against Dane's team. Nah, we did
it because hand now you're stupid. There's so many people

(03:14):
that are into whether it's credit, into real estate, into
generational wealth, into financial literacy. It was just a bunch
of people that are in that space so that you
can actually talk to people. So e y L shout
out to the Brothers Marinia Legia. They had a team.
Season had a team. I had a team, the Credit Dude,
and we just had a huge kickball game. We bodied yl.
It was my team versus Yo Body, Richard and Troy

(03:36):
Body them. They was out. We actually did lose, but
it was just a good fo it was. It was
a tournament, so you know, we beat them out and
then I finally lost. It doesn't matter loss. Yeah, we
did lose, but it was a good time because we
people were able to ask questions about real estate. Yeah,
because it was a whole event, so not every team

(03:56):
was playing at the same time. So while two teams
are playing, other people are just walked around talking to people,
and then two more teams are playing and then you're
talking to people, so they people got a chance to
to get the knowledge that they needed to ask questions
about whether it was credited or real estate, or stocks
or crypto or whatever it may be, which was pretty dope.
An event was free, so it was no no charge
or nothing like that. It was just a giftback event.

(04:17):
So it was pretty dope. Yesterday, man, when we played
Danielle's team, it was the Streets versus the Creeks, and
my team was the Streets. We killed Diana, but Danielle
injured himself early on in the game. He pulled something
so he couldn't even play. Yes, excluding my guys Uil though. Man.
They got to invest Fest August fifth through the seventh
in Atlanta. I'll be out there on the sixth and

(04:38):
then you know, Uila. They're doing the Black Effect Podcast
Festival on August twenty eight in Brooklyn, you know, so
go get your tickets at Black Effect dot Com Slash
Podcast Festival. Yeah, nave me hanging out with me this Sunday.
We're doing a seminar in the city. They're gonna be
speaking on as a shout to those brothers. But let's
get the show cracking front page news. What we're talking about?

(04:58):
All right? Well, we already talked about them like a million,
So let's talk about Brittney Grinder. She will testify in
a Russian court as her trial continues, to tell you
about the message that she sent to her partner, My man,
young dogs pace Dolf brother would have been thirty seven
years older. Day. Brother didn't even really get to live, man,
dropping a koof bombs for a young dog foo. That's

(05:18):
why I've never understanding people who will lie about the
age of high day age every year is truly a
blessing man. Absolutely, her brother would have been only thirty
seven years older. Day. Imagine thirty, you know, a young
thirty seven is come on, man? All right, well, let's
get in some front page news. What we're starting easy,
all right, Well, Brittany Grinder is expected to testify in
a Russian courtroom today. It's part of her ongoing trial

(05:41):
on drug charges. She's facing, as you know, up to
ten years in prison. So they did confirm that she
is testifying and prosecutors will also have the opportunity to
question her. She pleaded guilty at the court near Moscow
earlier this month. The decision that the defense hopes will
be taken into account by the court and perhaps give
her a less severe sentence. You're really dragging this, I mean,

(06:04):
Jesus Christ. It was just a vague cartridge Russia. Now.
In the meantime, she had a message for her wife,
Cheryl Grinder, who recently graduated from law school. Here is
what she said. Do you want to say something to
each other? How do you feel? Do heim for me
complaining patiently? She said, no complaints, just waiting patiently. But

(06:29):
she did wish her good luck on the bar exam.
And she was she was holding up two photographs and
she said, my wife, my two best friends, my teammates.
Those were the photographs. Well, hold your head, Brittany, It'll
be all all, It'll come to a conclusion, sue, all right.
The United States now leads the globe and confirmed monkey
pocks cases, according to new data that was published by

(06:52):
the CDC. And so there's a total of three thousand,
eight hundred and forty six known monkeys cases as of
money day, and that surpasses Spain and Germany they have
about thirty one. Can you just tell me about it,
because I'm not gonna front I've heard about it, but
I really don't know much about it. How long do
you have it for? Do you have to you know,

(07:12):
quarantine for five days? And is there you know, what
can you take for it? Is there? Symptoms usually start
with then Yeah, they do have a vaccine. That's been
hard to get by the way, you have to make
an appointment to get one. Um Now, the symptoms usually
start within three weeks of exposure to the virus, so
they anticipate there may be an increase in cases throughout
the month, and it typically occurs through close contact for

(07:34):
an extended period of time, or contact with articles of clothing,
betting towels that have been in contact. Here's a guy
who actually has monkey pots and here's what he has
to say about it. If you hear of a friend
or a loved one that has this message them, support them,
ask them, I find anything. Just let them know that
they're not some parah, that they're not dirty, and that

(07:56):
it's gonna be Okay, it's not lethal, it's just very temporary.
Read it's scary for the moment, Okay. Yeah. The vast
majority of those cases, ninety nine percent of the cases
reported domestically have been related to mail to male sexual contact,
and they they confirmed that two children in the US
tested positive from monkey pocks. One case has occurred in

(08:17):
toddler who is a resident of California, and the other
is an infant who is a non US resident. Can
you realize how much of a negative stereotype that is?
What they keep saying that it's spread mostly through man
on man sex because anybody who gets it, you know,
now they're gonna be open to ridicule and being teased
and being called gay. And what if they're not, Like,
you can't say, hey, it's mostly spread by people through

(08:39):
man on man sex. Didn't turn around and say, but
it's not exclusive to them? Like why even put a
huge percentage? I guess they're just putting out the facts.
But then they say it's nine an STD Like once
again they're putting out all this information about something that
doesn't quite make sense. Yeah. No, I guess they putting
out the facts. And how long does it last when
you do have it? I don't know how long it lasts.
I'm sure it differs and varies from person in person.

(09:00):
I just want to said, mail to male sexual contact,
So if you're not having male to male sexual contact.
You should't have to worry about it. But there's a
one percent chance you can get it. And the I
mean these infants. We just told you about two children
that have. So if it's a one percent chance of
people who are not having mail to male sex contact
getting it, why are they putting it in the news
every single day. I just don't understand why they say that.

(09:20):
They turn around and say it's not exclusive the game in.
That makes no sense. I don't know why they're putting
the talkeet on gave ins back like that, that makes
no sense. All right, well that is your front page news.
That makes sense to you? It does not, Oh okay,
it does not. I mean obviously these infants didn't have
that's my point, you know. But is a huge person

(09:42):
letting you know, like that's mainly how it's And they
say it's not an STD and they say it's not
exclusively gay in so why keep highlighting because that makes
no sense to me. It's more of a risk in
that community, is what they're saying. All right, well, get
it off your chests. Eight hundred five. I need five
one on five one. If you need to vent, phone
lines are wide open we'd love to hear from you.

(10:04):
Eight hundred five eight five one on five one is
to breakfast club. Good morning. The breakfast club is your
time to get it off your chats, whether you're Man
or blast, so you better have the same minute. We
want to hear from you on the breakfast club. Hello,
who's this? Joe? Whatever? Man it out of eight oh

(10:25):
three metro, get it off your y'all. Jacabsville was happening,
King ain't nothing, man, I got a few things I
want to get on my chat man, but I'm gonna
hurt real call. I know y'all. Hain't go up on me.
No envy be hanging up on people. I don't forget
he hung up on me yesterday, all the one that
called up to another player. See you hang up Boston.

(10:50):
But anyway, you don't want to give a shout out
of the pausure who took my four hundred dollars out
my account? Black and Yeah, y'all got a head always
from Los ange As the bank of Barons. Shout out
of them too. For get me to run around about
my money. How the hell they just took poet of ours?
Do you sure you didn't trying to turn. You didn't
try to turn four hundred and four thousand bro on Instagram.

(11:10):
So I'll go to work. Man. I own messenger scams
and a PvP low so let's dodd okay. But yeah
they got man, I get a bad bank America just
giving me the hands about shout out to the all right,
yeah at Charlemagne, I know you like joy and all
that man from listen us South Carolina always the field
man at the Chrystal Ball Roll bore a ton of

(11:32):
man straight out of Fan wins Burrough. Hey he fought.
He up and coming if you wund so, but check
him out, man. If anybody around Christal Ball Roll, Johnny
macil Crystal Ball Bird spotting Bird, South Carolina eight six four,
I will do, sir already. Hello, who's this? Gene, Gene Broke,

(11:54):
New Jersey? Hey, Gene, what I get him off your chests? Yeah?
The issue do I want to get off my chest? Man?
Was the problem? First of all, good morning to everybody,
Good morning the morning. My issue is with Charlotte. No boy,
nobody out of Charlotta Magne. Case so, Charlotte Magne is
a championship mental health right, something that I actually uh
am you know support. You know, I go to therapy

(12:15):
and uh, but then I heard you make a joke
about the guy that came on the radio other day.
He was like, yeah, well, yeah, he got a problem
because that fat woman rolled or one top of So
I'm like, how you gonna champion You can't champion mental
health righting, bro and mental health and and make off
handed comments about people who stuck from mental health issues

(12:37):
as a result of issues like obesi when I don't
know what he's talking about. You know what you probably heard, bro? No, No,
I know exactly what I heard. One morning, I gave
a donkey, gave a doctet it needed somebody and asked
specifically what the issue was, and you said, oh, no,
that she was when he rolled She rolled to one

(12:57):
top of him. Yeah, you know what you probably heard, Bro,
You heard heard You wanna listen to me? He gonna
cut me off so I can explain. Okay, you probably
heard the old clip because what they do is they
played old donkeys all the time and played old clips. No,
I don't think that was old clip. No, but but
I think that you're taking it out of context, Like, why,
what's the problem with her rolling over on top of him.

(13:17):
You know, the issue with her rolling on top, with
the inference that you made with that, h he should
have had an issue with her being heavy and rolling
over on top. How you get how you how you
how you get that from me saying she got on
top of them? Okay, So asking I didn't you said
I didn't say that. I don't remember her being obese,
but you said that it's my fault for not remember

(13:40):
the higher Either way, man, I don't know either way.
There's nothing wrong with huh. But that's not the only
one though, And you know, because I'm a big fan though,
by the way, and like the one that really got
under my skin was the time when the girl with
the the the baby probably who dropped off the food.

(14:02):
Y'all was dead wrong on that because I've been in Donalds, yeah,
and I've been a kid. And so if you were
in the relationship with a woman, right, I said. I
said that. I said the guy should have bought all
the kids food. Really, Charlotagne, that's what I'm saying. I
absolutely said the guy should have bought Hang up on
this guy, now hang up on him. I don't, I don't.

(14:22):
I need you to have your fact straight. Are you right?
You're right? Okay, you're right, But you gotta you gotta
have your fact strade. You gotta do the fact. You
gotta have a fact and listen, I'm not perfect, you
know what I'm saying. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna
continue that. I like making jokes. That's part that's actually

(14:43):
part of my mental health routine that makes me that
that brings me joy. All right. But I absolutely said
that guy should have bought all those kids food. If he,
I mean, he might not be able to forward it.
I'm not going back to have this debaby, Okay, but
he's holding that he was holding that in for a while. Yeah,
but you gotta have your information right. They hain't to
have it right. No, get it off your chest. Eight

(15:03):
hundred five eight five one oh five one. If you
need to vent, hit this up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, the Breakfast Club, Power one five one. I'll
call you if this is your time to get it
off your chest, whether you're mad or blessed. Eight hundred

(15:24):
five eighty five one five one. We want to hear
from you on the Breakfast Club. Hello, who's this Hey?
This is Asia Collar from Virginia, but always rip in Dallas.
Two one four, Okay, Dallas you home? Are you a
Cowboys fan? I am. Let's go, let's go. I'm in
Dallas this weekend. Actually, good morning, mama, good morning, good morning.

(15:46):
I just wanted to get it off my kiss um.
My polls in the shop right now, and that's feel
like his dealerships just be fixing piece by piece just
to get your backing nets and spending more money. They're
talking about now, I gotta pay two thousand dollars because
something is wrong with the inside of my engine. But
damn well, don't worry because them them dealerships are gonna
have to be hit in a minute. All those cars

(16:08):
that they purchased over price. Those cars are coming down
in price. They're gonna be upside down. So they're gonna
they're gonna feel it in a little bit. And that's
what they're probably feeling it now. So they're probably changing
people for extra ishe the view feeling? But they ain't
got nothing to do with your engine right now? I know, right?
And then the party like five country and the labels
fifteen hundred. If you can't do it yourself, how you

(16:28):
know what this woman can do. She might have win
to trade school. Tell you exactly what to do. That's right,
all right, figure it out, boo. Sometimes you might you
might have to do that to save some money. That's
gonna take you probably three weeks to do that. What's
wrong with the cars? Because right now my boyfriend helping
me out, you know, with his car. Yes, please, okay,

(16:51):
I want to shout out my boyfriend, uh seven or safe.
He also has a podcast called Porch Stories. I'll make
a platform YouTube about as well, and TikTok and Instagram.
Thank you, good luck, my mom, Thank y'all so much.
If I was, y'all put my cash app out there
just in case somebody feels, you know, you want to
help y'all. A little bit is a baby two seven

(17:14):
one seven if anybody want to help me because of
my car is really in the shop right now, all right, mama,
I have to go on. Thank you Tom. We're Brittany
ground to be getting the fresh ass office from shout
on the cross colors jacket this now, yo, y'all bettition
first one. But I was like, I was like, did
she get pulled on? Like when she got they let her.
Get all the close must be right, I don't know. Yeah, Hello,

(17:36):
who's this? This is on Tasha um Color from the
seven o'course, Good morning, get it off your chest. I'm
just want to get a couple of things talk about. First.
I want to say happy birthday to my boyfriends down
the he's heard thirty one certainly. I want to give
a shout out to my family, the Honey family. My grandmother,
she eighty nine years old. She still get around to

(17:59):
my grandma, my mother. I mean, my mother is a
limit town was just a blissed family. Well, congratulations. My
dad turns eighty this year. I'm excited man, and he
still gets around. He still does what he does. And
love him, kiss him, hug him and give him anything anymore. Yep,
that's what we've been. We all just do see her
all the time. I mean all I mean, there's so

(18:20):
many grandkids and we all live around her. Were steel
embraced her. She's feeling her right mind. I have two
kids seventy eight. They still you know, they get to
see her. I pray to God I get to see
nine on this planet. That's incredible about it is FaceTime,
Like you know, FaceTime is so amazing because the grandparents
can see their kids and grandkids every day and they

(18:41):
see everything. And I love my mom and my dad
stay on FaceTime every day. That's beautiful. We love you back.
Tell grandma we see happy birthday. Definitely all right, get
it off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one
on five one Now we got rooms on the way. Yes,
and Chris rack sat down with Kevin Hite and talked
about people saying that his comedy mainly appeals to white people.

(19:03):
Find out what his response is. All right, we'll get
into that. Next. Is the breakfast Club. Good morning, the
breakfast Club day envy angela ye, Charlemagne, the guy. We
are the breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Le's
talk little Duvall. Listen, Oh gosh, got breakfast club? All right? Well,

(19:28):
hopefully little Duvall is okay. He posted himself on a
stretcher and he said, somebody hit me in a car
while I was on my four wheeler. Now my leg broken.
I gotta get flown over the NASSA and half surgery.
So hopefully everything is okay with him. Prayers up for
my guy man. He faced time me yesterday from the hospital.
When he was hi off morphine. Listen, let's just say

(19:49):
Little Duvall is with the comedian. And that's the scariest
part when you're on vacation and you do those rescursions
that you hope that you know if something does happen,
that you know whatever hospital that's close by can help
you out. Because he had to fly over to another
the nasal, Yeah, another island. So we were on vacation
once in Jamaica and my friend the four wheel of
flipped around her arm and we had to go to

(20:10):
the hospital in Kingston and we spent like eight hours
in the hospital that day. My cousin the same thing.
He a four wheel a fellow on him and I
think he broke his leg, and it was just it
was hard to get attention and get help, so I
think the ball broke his leg too. I think I
had to get a bunch of people to lift the
four wheeler up off of her. She was screaming, Wow,
I'm sending hiller energy to my brother, a little Duvall

(20:32):
shoot to my man, clay Man, and I'm just glad
that my guy's my guy's still here with us absolutely
all right. Now, Chris Rock did an interview with Kevin
Hart for his Peacock TV series Heart to Heart, and
he spoke a lot of things. One of the things
that he talked about was people saying his comedy mainly
appeals to white people. When it was time to do
my next quession, I'm like, oh, oh, you think only

(20:54):
white people? Are like, okay, well, I'm going to the
Apollo and there ain't gonna be no white people and
I'm gonna call the special biggest. This is the blackest
special you will ever see. I have fought battles, I'm
told to shut up in comedy clubs. It's the success
of the comedian that has found a way to cross

(21:16):
over an appeal to all people, remove the world universal,
and they just go on the word white. I never
thought that when Kenyan Chris Rocks, I've never thought that.
I'm sitting there thinking, well, I must be white because
Chris rocks comedy has been appealing to me for damn
near thirty years. Been black. I love all his stand up.
Everybody hates Chris is one of my favorite sitcoms ever.
So I must be transracial because I'm black, but I

(21:36):
highly enjoy Chris's comedy, So I guess that means I
identify as white. I used to love Chris Chris Rocks
show talking about That's what I'm saying. People say that,
and I'm always confused because Chris rock has been so
black in the mainscreen for so long. I'm talking about
black Andy black, Kevin his and people said similar things
about him. And they talked about a lot of other

(21:57):
comedians that were quote unquote ain't stream, like Eddie Murphy,
Richard Pryor, Dave Chappelle and Martin Lawrence. And another thing
that they none of those all of those brothers are
blacky black. I mean, I guess they know what people
say about them. So who are these people? We are
the people we say that they heard it. I'm sure

(22:18):
I don't know where they're hearing that from. Because Chris
rock first of all, you can't be called a white
uh say that your comedy appeals to the white people
when you use crack as much as Chris Rocky. That's
what I was saying. The only one that I was
I was a little late on. I was a little
late on Dave Chappelle. Dave now Dave early on appealed
to a lot of white people, that's now, that's that's
the only one. Yeah, but I think the movie was
part of the reason for that. Pam baked, Yeah, because

(22:40):
Killing Me Softly was a great stand up special. But
even then he had a large white fan base. To me,
it wasn't until he put out The Chappelle Show with
black started gravitated toward Chappelle. Yeah, but everybody else there
was black and black black black. From the beginning. Chris
Rock was poky. Played my favorite Chris Rock drop uh
eddie one time? Come on, you know what I want
to hear? Just in case y'all thought he wasn't black,

(23:01):
all right, Well he's getting that ready, Let's talk about
what else happened in this interview. So he also talked
about Kevin Hurt, talked about the best advice that Chris
Rock ever gave him, Crack. I asked one I've ever
gotten from you and guards to comedy. It was, hey,
don't be local, go be funny for everybody. And when

(23:23):
I think about what that meant, and I think about
you in your prime and even and now, well, you
define funny differently because you stayed true to yourself. You
never you never shy away from what you feel. But
you made everybody can grasp what it was that you
were trying to say. It was never a barrier of

(23:44):
language of what what does he mean? All right, well
that is your rumor report. You can watch that whole
interview again. Like we said, that's hard to hurt on Peacock.
I don't want you all to know that Chris Rock
is back staying my favorite word too and the special.
That's all I'm gonna say. Chris Rock's back say clock
of ass Crack't know he stopped. He did for a while,

(24:05):
didn't He even stopped doing the N word versus black
people joke for a while. But yeah, he he wasn't
saying that, like that word clack of ass cracking. But yeah,
you're gonna heard a few times in his new material
that's dope. So he just says it completely like clock
I asked crack. I mean, not exactly in that context,
but he says it a few times as should go

(24:25):
see it, you should go see it. Damn ego death,
ego death towards he's out for the rest of the year.
He's out. He's on the roll, all right. Well, shout
to Chris Rock and Kevin hart Man. And Dave Chappelle.
That's right, all right now front page news. What we're
talking about, Well, let's talk about Instagram. There's a whole
thing going around, a petition they wanted to bring back
the old Instagram again. The Instagram sucks right now, we'll
talk about it when we come back as the Breakfast Club.

(24:47):
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(25:10):
everybody's DJ Envy Angel Ye Charlemagne, the guy. We are
to breakfast Club. Let's getting to the front page News.
It shout the bun b and trill Burgers. That bringing
burgers up here for everybody this waking. He was on
Good Morning America yesterday. Yeah, so he said he wants
to stop by just bring some burgers. He wants us
to try his burgers, even if it's a bite or two.
He just wants us to put that meeting in vegan burgers.

(25:31):
I've been wanting to trill burger for a long, long,
long long time. But I'm not even a trill burger
at seven o'clock to take a bite one bite. No,
I'm gonna save I'm gonna save it until later on lunchtime. Well,
there you go. I'm not doing that, all right, where
we're starting? Easyam bun? All right? But let's sound like playing.
Well what else could he do it? You got something
to go? She got something to do. I got something
to do. What do I have to do? What are
you talking about me for? I don't know where? Were

(25:55):
very poor? Please here? Yeah, I do. I have to
go host Good Day News this morning's big guys. That's
not me. I didn't. Don't put me in it. Little
buns intown this morning, shout the bump. You're good, I'm great. Okay. Now, Instagram,
there's a petition for people to make Instagram Instagram again.
Kylie Jenner posted stop trying to be TikTok. I just

(26:18):
want to see cute photos of my friends, Sincerely everyone.
Kim Kardashian posted it as well, and so there's also
a change dot org petition that they reposted to their stories.
That's the petition Instagram sus now and so now it
has over one hundred and fifty thousand people that signed it.
And Adamissouri, who's been up here before on the Breakfast Club,
he's a CEO. He responded, and here's what he had

(26:40):
to say about what's happening on Instagram right now. He said,
I want to address a few things we're working on
to make Instagram a better experience. Please let me know
what you think. The second thing, I'm hearing a lot
of concerns about right now our photos and how we're
shifting to video now. I want to be clear, We're
going to continue to support photos. It's part of our heritage.
I love photos. I know a lot of you are
the love photos too. That said, I need to be honest.

(27:02):
I do believe that more and more of Instagram is
going to become video over time. We see this, even
if we change nothing. We see this. Even if you
just look at chronological feed, if you look at what
people share on Instagram, that's shifting more and more to
videos over time. If you look at what people like
and consume and view on Instagram, that's also shifting more
and more to video overtime even when we stop changing anything,
So we're gonna have to lean into that shift while

(27:24):
continuing to support photos. I don't like the new timelines
that they have all of a sudden, people just don't
put a little bit. I hate when it's like, I
don't want to see this, pery same, who is this
you have to say about that? The third thing I
want to talk about is recommendations. Recommendations are posts in
your feed from accounts that you do not follow. The
idea is to help you discovered new and interesting things

(27:47):
on Instagram and you might not know even exist. Now.
If you're seeing things in your feed that are recommendations
that you're not interested in, that means that we're doing
a bad job ranking and we need to improve. And
you can ex out for recommendation. You can even snooze
all recommendations from or go to your following feed. But
we're gonna continue to try and get better at recommendations
because we think it's one of the most impective and

(28:07):
important ways to help creators reach our people. We want
to do our best by critics, particularly small creators. Nope,
and I hate it. Stop recommending and showing me content
from people I don't follow. I think I've beaten that though.
I think because when you block a bunch of them,
when you'd like hit like five or ten of the middle,
stop showing them to you all together. I'm gonna tell
you what us y'all protest. Y'all need to be protesting
against those damn bots asking me if I want something

(28:28):
long and hard. Okay, well I stop telling me you
want me for breakfast. I get commendation when you search
something that is not trying to the damn line, and
those bots attack you so fast you think you don't
posted something to just rip and you're like, oh shoot
this thing about eighty comments in twenty seconds. And then

(28:50):
there's a bunch of women talking about let me, let
me have you for breakfast. What would you do if
you found me alone in a room called the police,
white woman? How you're talking about not stupid as questions?
They need to stop that all that bonds and stuff.
I really really all right now. You also talked about
full screen IG and other things. One is, if you're
seeing a new full screen version of a feed or

(29:12):
you're hearing about it, know that that is a test.
It's a test to a few percentage of people out there,
and the idea is that a more full screen experience,
not only for videos but for photos might be a
more fun, engaging experience. But I also want to be clear,
it's not yet good, and we're gonna have to get
it to a good place if we're gonna ship it
to the rest of the Instagram community. Now, this is
a lot of change all at once, but know that

(29:33):
a number of things about Instagram are going to stay
the same. We're gonna stay committed to create a more broadway.
We're gonna stay committed to supporting photos. We're gonna stay
in a place where we try and put your friends
contingent the top of feed, in the front of stories
whenever possible. But we're also we're gonna need to evolve. Hey,
by the way, y'are tripping. Though, I don't just want

(29:53):
pictures on Instagram. I like the videos and reels. I
think that is a great way to get information out.
So I disagree with that part of it. Now all
people saying they don't like having seen videos on Instagram,
but I like watching you know, I like the videos too,
But I like the pictures the way that they do
it now. People don't get to see your pictures that
follow you anymore. It's real weird if you notice it,

(30:14):
Like some people never get to see a pictures. It's
a lot of shadow band a lot of shadow banding,
which I hate. We need to bring them back up
here when when Adam gets a second because we there's
so many other questions and I feel like they're not
doing anything to fix it. All right, Adam, pull up,
Let's see what happens, and that is your front page.
I think Adam gotta open door policy. I gotta clear
with Boosey first, but I'm pretty sure Adam can come

(30:34):
up here whenever you want to. M gotta make sure
up Yeah, allows now. But I'm gonna be honest with you.
I don't care. None of these social media platforms are
you know what I mean. They can turn all of
these things off tomorrow and we just have to figure
something else out. Because before Instagram it was just twit pick.
Remember Twitter Pick when he used to just post pictures
on Twitter, and then Instagram came along, and then TikTok.

(30:56):
All this stuff isn't new. It'll be something else in
the next couple of weeks fan bases out there. It's
a bunch of different platforms. Man. All right, now when
we come back, who's joining us? I know they have
the Aftershock documentary Tanya lewis Lee. Tanya lewis Lee, Yes,
as well as Omari, who is featured in the documentary.
His wife died after giving birth. It was preventable, and

(31:18):
they're going to talk about how black women have three
to four times more likely to have issues died during
childbirth and right after. All right, and we'll get to
that next it don't move. It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning,
So Breakfast Club, your morning's will never be the same morning.
Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We
are the Breakfast Club. We got some special guests joining

(31:38):
us this morning. They produced the Aftershock documentary Tanya lewis
Lee and Omari Maynard. Good morning, Good morning, How y'all,
good morning. What's happening all as well? Things are great.
There's a lot of awesome conversation happening, especially you know,
specifically with this month being Bipock Mental Health month. But

(31:59):
after Shot in itself is just such a dope film.
I'm so excited that it's actually out now. In Experiment
on Hulu, just talk about it. They examine the maternal
mortality rate definitely in America, definitely especially for black women too,
and I think this is something we've discussed, how that
rate is so much higher than white women. Yeah, black
women are dying at three to four times the rate

(32:19):
of white women from childbook complications in New York City,
and it is a crisis. It's a national crisis that
people haven't been talking about. That's why I directed and
produced the film so that we could have a conversation.
I'm so grateful to Amri for allowing us to come
into his life at a very difficult time and open

(32:40):
himself up to the cameras so that everybody can understand
what it's like for a family to lose someone from
childbook complications and what it takes for someone to pick
themselves up and not only heal for themselves, but also
try to heal the community, because that's really what Amar
is doing. No. I love the fact that y'all did
after shot from the perspective two men, because that's one

(33:01):
of the reasons I got a duela. We went and
got laid them because I saw Charles Johnson. Familiar with
Charles Johnson. I saw Jarles Johnson on CNN back in
the day, and I just could not imagine, you know,
something like that happening. In My second daughter was born
because of an emergency C section, Like he was born
a month earlier, and you know, got rushed to the hospital,
did the C section, and that could have went, you know,

(33:22):
either way. And it's from that point on, I just
had like such an anxiety surrounding childbirth that I never
wanted to be in there alone without having a duela. Well,
it's interesting you bring that up, anxiety, because I think
that unfortunately in this country and given this crisis, that
there is anxiety and fear. And I really think that
we need to shift the culture because birthing should be

(33:44):
an exciting, empowering time for a woman and for her family,
and it should not be anxiety producing. I mean, we've
been birthing since forever. That's why we're all here. And
I think part of the issue is that we have,
you know, as technology has advanced, we have moved into
more of as a Helena Grant says in the film,

(34:06):
a technocratic, patriarchal model of birthing, which can create some issues.
So I liken it to farm to table that now
we've got to come back a little bit and look
at what the midwives did back in the past and
use a little bit of what they've done and a
little bit of the medical technocratic model, but not the
way it is, because that's really what's killing us. Helena

(34:29):
Grant also talks about how when a woman is birthing
a child, she's not just birthing that child, She's birthing
a mother. And so the process of labor, yes, it
can hurt, it can be painful, but you know, we
shouldn't be afraid of that either. That is a process
that we go through so that we are powerful mothers.
I agree with you one hundred. It's just so difficult

(34:49):
when you go in these hospitals that I'm a majority
white drivens, a lot of white nurses, a lot of
white doctors. They're not looking at you know. I remember
one time for our third child, like they didn't even
have any literally in a hospital and they were just like, well,
maybe's right now you can just push it out. And
I'm like, you know, like, how do you post the
react to something like well, yeah, no, and I completely

(35:10):
agree with you, and I think we can start thinking
about the fact that we can we can be consumers
here if we can and find the right situation for you.
If you want to birth in a hospital with a doctor,
just with the doctor, you can do that. But if
you want to bring a duela into that, that's great too.
You could birth in a birthing center with a midwife
and adula, maybe without an eperdura, with that in mind

(35:31):
that you're going into that process. People can birth at
home with a midwife and adula and a doctor on
call if that's what makes them feel comfortable. And I
really think it's about finding the right environment and the
right support around a woman. It should be woman centered
and she needs to figure out what she needs around her,
because I agree, like, you don't want to be in

(35:52):
a hospital necessarily where there's a bunch of white people
looking at you like you're crazy, don't really believe you
when you say you're having pain, you're asking for things,
and they're you know, discounting you. That that is not
the type of environment anyone wants to be giving birth in.
And sometimes it feels like, and you point this out too,
it's like the midwife or the dula against the doctor,

(36:14):
and it's not like they're working together in tandem, right,
you know, and they should be. I mean, every other
industrialized nation has midwives integrated into women's healthcare so that
women interface with the with the midwife first if there
is a problem, because midwives to separate from dula's. Midwives

(36:34):
are conitions that can do just about anything a doctor
can't except for cut you the obi guinies are surgeons.
They are surgeons, we need them, they're important, but they're
ready to do surgery. Midwives are there to hang out
and take the time and allow your body to do
what it's supposed to do. And if they're working together,

(36:55):
that's the best situation so that if a complication occurs,
you've got the doctor right there who is ready to
come in. But if we're not working together and in tandem,
then it becomes a fight between the power. Who is
more powerful, the doctor or the midwife. But we need
to figure out how to work together. And even when
it comes to c sections, you've spoken about how that's
been on the rise. I think like seventy percent more

(37:17):
C sections are happening. Why are hospitals so quick to
be like, you gotta get a C section money. Yeah, yeah,
well that's what it is essentially. So we talk about
in the film the rates of c sections, about sixty percent,
sixty percent of c sections are not needed. But like
Charlemagne just said, it's about fifteen thousand dollars you get
for a vaginal birth and it takes about eight to

(37:38):
twelve hours right to go through that whole process. But
a C section you make doubled amount of money. It
takes about forty five minutes. It's scheduled. Or a doctor
and you want to go catch the golf game or dinner,
you can go do that exactly. And that's what I
was just about to say. In the film, there's a
part of it where all the nurses and doctors are
in the you know, the forum, and there talking about

(38:01):
the schedule c sections, but they're not talking about people
by their name. It's all number x y two, five,
seven eight, schedule C section for this time x y
three seventy five. She's you know, got already had a
C section, so she needs another. Like so it's a
really monetized model where it's almost similar to the prison system,

(38:23):
where everybody kind of has this serial number, and that's
how people are looked at, not necessarily as people, but
as commodities. I think God for information and I thank
God for you know, laid them because like I can
still hear the fear in my wife's voice when she
had to think about having a C section for the
second time, you know that after she had the one
for a second child. They told her when she got

(38:45):
pregnant again, she was gonna have to have They were
already scheduled and everything, and just a random conversation with
with Latham and I just asked her and she was like, no,
she doesn't have to have a C section, And so
that's when she first got with Latham, and Latham walked
in through the process and she ended up having the
vaginal child. That is really amazing she was able to

(39:05):
do that, and like you say, she had the support
of someone who was like, hold on a second, we
can do this, because without that support, she's being pushed
into having that that that C section, which happens to
too many women. We got more with Tanya Lewis Lee
and Omar Remainer when we come back and overget next hour.
We have asked ye if you need relationship advice and
any type of advice you can call ye right now

(39:27):
should help you out. You get on those phone lines.
But we got more with Tanya lewis Lee and Omar Remainer.
When we come back as the breakfast level Morning Morning,
everybody is dj Envy Angela Yee. Charlomagne, the guy we
are to Breakfast Club was still kicking with Tanya lewis
Lee and Omar Remainer. Now, another thing that you guys
discuss is what happens after a woman gives birth. Right,
what's going on with going back to the doctor getting

(39:48):
checked up on and Amaria? I know for you you
feel that that death could have been prevented. Yeah, most definitely.
Just throughout the entire process. Shimani was healthy, she was strong,
tried to have a vback as well, the vaginal birth
after C section. Unfortunately it didn't happen. But when we
left the hospital, I left with my daughter, let me

(40:09):
excuse me, my son and my partner, you know, so
I thought everything was fine. And the subsequent days, you know,
she was complaining about chess pain, she was complaining about
having shortness of breath, she was complaining about not being
able to walk, you know, and do these certain things,
and you know, our family has been in this maternal
space for a while, so her mom was like, this

(40:30):
sounds like a pulmonary embolism. We went to the doctor
three times within that two week period to go let
them know, like, this is the problem, these it issues,
this is how she's feeling. And every time he went,
because of the fact that Shamani's scheduled visit for her
check up was six weeks out, they didn't look at her.
They looked at the c section that she had for

(40:51):
the clips. They talked about we went to have a
visit for Kari and what his needs are. But every
time we went out there, we were advocating and advocating advocate,
and it was still this thing where it's because of
the fact that it's not her schedule time it was
normal exactly. It's horrible because many of these deaths happened
postpartum and the fact that she had an appointment six

(41:14):
weeks out and they're like, oh, no, we've got to
wait for that six weeks is insane. You know, women
should be checked on a few days after a week after,
they should be seen, especially after having major surgery like
a C section and again, that's one of those things
midwives do. Six weeks out is way too long, and
I think we need a cultural shift in that women

(41:35):
should be seen much sooner before that. Now tell you
for you this is I know you've produced before, but
this is directorial debut for you. So what was your
passion behind this? Yeah, you know, I had been working
raising awareness about the high rates of infant mortality in
the United States. I started that back in two thousand
and seven. You know, we have the same disparity as

(41:58):
in maternal health. Black babies diet three to four times
the raid of white babies in this country before their
first birthday. I found myself immersed in a world of
women's health. You know, inevitably someone would tell me about
someone who passed away from childbirth complications and wanted to
tell a story about it. I wanted to raise awareness

(42:20):
about it so that we can do something. I think
if we don't have the conversation about what's happening, we
can't fix it. And when Shawnee and Amari put out
on social media and invitation for a celebration of Shamani's
life along with a conversation with the community about what
was happening with black maternal health. We reached out to

(42:42):
film and they agreed and that really began the film
that you see as after Shock. How was the process
for you, Amari making the film? It was enlightening. So
we did after Shock, our after Shock event on December nineteenth,
for Shamari's birthday, so this is two months after she passed.

(43:02):
So like, during that two month time frame was the
darkest time of my life. Honestly, it was filled with
my deepest grief, sadness, insecurities, like all these things started
coming up and me being able to process it was
it was difficult. But what I started to do was painting.
So when Tanya and Paula came in introduced his film

(43:23):
to us, I was like, NA, I'm not doing this,
this is this is I'm not at my press again exactly.
You know, I'm going I'm going through things, you know,
going through things I've never been through before. But after
having a conversation with Seannie and you know her just
kind of identifying what the opportunity was, what the possibilities
could be, and just the fact that you know, regardless
of where the film went, at least we would have

(43:46):
something documented about our family so that our kids could
watch emotionally and mentally. You know, how else did you
process the trauma of dis event other than the paint? Yeah,
So thankfully I've got a dope community. So it as
soon as she passed, Like I had grief counselors when Shamani,
when she was here, we go to a couple of therapy,

(44:08):
you know. So when I was I was on it.
I was on it, and I mean not by choice,
to be honest. You know, it was something that Shamani
was pushing and but you know, I went once and
went twice and then obviously after a while I saw
the value in it. But after she passed a step,
I kept going to the same therapist, and then, like
I said, I had family friends coming in, you know,
to help out around the house and provide pamps, diapers,

(44:30):
you know, all the things that that you would need
on a day to day basis. But in order for
me to process my grief, painting was one. But it
turned into being this kind of mind, body spirit training
where I was running every day, I was working out,
I was painting, I was talking to my therapists, I
was talking to family and friends, just different ways to

(44:54):
deal with the pain, deal with the grief, and process
it in a way that was positive. And like, that's
kind of what I really try to push now, especially
to men going through anything, because we all go through
our own pain, we all go through our own traumas, right,
but it's so important that we speak about it, that
we communicate it, and that we you know, we do
the things, and this is an ongoing, never ending process.

(45:17):
I'm gonna be going through this for the rest of
my life, you know, So it is really making sure
that I'm being very intentional about how I want to
move my energy and use my energy. When I hear
brothers like you tell your story, brothers like you know,
Charles Johnson telling this story, I'm just like, y'all way
stronger than me, because there's no way I don't even
know if I could even have that conversation because I

(45:39):
don't even know when it would hit me that this
actually happened, you know what I mean? And didn't you
see your child every day? Every day you're thinking about
your queen's I honestly don't feel that way. I feel
like whatever you're given is what you're given, right, And
you know, God doesn't make mistakes. Right, We all have
our own griefs, right, minds might be a little bit

(46:01):
deeper than others. But when it all comes down to it,
if you're gonna be there for your child, you're gonna
be there for yourself, You're gonna be there for your family.
You gotta do the work, you know. And it's really
that simple. That's why I respect. I respect it coming
from you because I know you've allowed yourself to feel. Yeah,
you're not numbing, you know at all, not at all.
Always say that in your deepest grief you gain your

(46:22):
greatest growth. We have more with Tanya Lewis Lee and
Omar Remainer. When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, like everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee. Charlomagne,
the guy we are to Breakfast Club was still kicking
with Tanya lewis Lee and Omar Remainer. What would you
recommend to people if a woman a family are dealing
with a complicated childbirth. They know something's wrong. The hospital

(46:43):
is not being responsive, the doctors aren't doing what they're
supposed to do. What can you do? You have options?
So in the film, there was a sister name is Felicia.
She went and had a birth at a birthing center,
but she was already I think thirty four, yeah, thirty weeks.
She was at the end, you know, and she was
going to the doctors, you know, to hospitals during this

(47:05):
thirty five week time period, but she decided to shift
because she felt like the need wasn't there. So it's
never too late, you know. To your to your question,
I think that it's so important that you understand and
learn what's around you. Right. So, there are places that
rate hospitals based off of the amount of C sections
that they provide to their patrons. And as you say that,

(47:25):
I just shout out to Kimberly Seals All. She's got
the earth app that is yeah, so yeah, that's Kimberley
is super dope earth app definitely for those who don't
know where earth app is, it's basically like a YELP
type of yeah definitely, yeah, yeah, she's doing great work
and she's so. Is that platform that allows people to

(47:46):
rate the hospitals, you know, rate the doctors, rate the
nurses and then those that's what you should be doing
exactly now, Is there anything you can do right after
everything happened that doctors didn't do what they could. This
was preventable, right, So now what happens after that? Is
this something that is now practiced? Like, what can somebody
do afterward? Well? Can I just say what I think

(48:08):
Omari and Bruce are doing is amazing, and what they
are doing is activating a community. Bruce is trying to
bring a birthing center to the Bronx. He's already has
the womb bus that is going around the Bronx. And
so while unfortunately there isn't a lot that one can
do for those that are gone, there are things that

(48:30):
people can do for those of us who are here.
And you know, I see that every day and what
saver Rose and Aria is doing. But and I think
I think all of us have a role to play.
Quite frankly, I mean, we should be paying attention to
what Bruce is doing. We should be supporting that we
need more birthing centers in New York City. We should
be paying attention to what's going on in the midwifree profession.

(48:51):
We need more midwives, we need more black midwives. We
need more black obe guy nies we do. We need
more black doctors, and we need to be have the
conversation so that we can all figure out how do
we make it better for all of us? Absolutely, so,
where do they catch after Shock? At after Shock is
streaming right now on Hulu. And what do you all

(49:12):
hope this project? Does? You know? I hope that the
film after Shock, as I said, I hope it's a
conversation starter. I hope people watch it and talk about it.
I hope people debate it. You know, if they look
at well Felicia had an amazing birth and a birthing center,
you know, talk about how you feel about the idea
of birthing and a birthing center versus a hospital. Talk

(49:34):
about what does it mean to have a midwife? Learn more?
We do we cover the history of midwiffery in this country.
I mean, the obstetric profession really is based on taking
the economy of midwiffery out of the hands of black women,
put it in the hands of white doctors and hospitals,

(49:54):
putting us all into their hands into hospitals, and demonizing
black mid wives. We need to learn about our history
so that we understand how we got here. Does it
Sharon's cover midwives insurance does not cover midwife laws. We
need laws, and the good news is that there are
laws right now. There's the Momnibus bills that are in

(50:15):
Congress right now working their way through. As I said,
many of these deaths are postpartum, so for women who
are on Medicaid, we need Medicaid to extend for at
least a year postpartum. Often women who are on Medicaid,
they get kicked off very soon after delivery. We need
to keep them on. Midwives and dulas need to get paid,
they need to be covered as well. So all of that,

(50:38):
we need to figure out what's going on and vote,
because voting matters who's in office. We look at right
now what's happening with the reversal of Roe v. Wade,
which is going to impact Black women more than it
does anybody else, certainly when it comes to maternal deaths.
There is a study that just said maternal death for
Black women may go up thirty three percent because of

(50:59):
the jobs and everybody who voted for Donald Trump twice,
they're the ones that got us here. But I do
like the fact that the documentary does offer some optimism
and some solutions absolutely to move forward. And I do
feel like and Amari, thank you so much for actually
participating in agreeing to do the documentary and coming up
here to spread the knowledge you know, and the word

(51:21):
about it, and being so strong for your family. Yeah, no,
no problem. Thank you for having us. You know, this
is this is a moment. I really honestly feel like
the film came out at a perfect time where people
are listening. Our foundation, the ARIA Foundation, you know, the
ARIA and it self stands for the advancement of reproductive
innovation through all the strym healing, you know. So what

(51:42):
we're doing is we're really trying to intentionally create spaces
and places and talk about and have these conversations where
they weren't being had before. I'm sure. And make sure
you're gonna watch the aftershot documentary on Hulu. Amari made it.
Tanya Lewis Lee, thank you for joining us this morning.
Thank you, thank you. It's a breakfast club. This is

(52:11):
but R Kelly's former manager, Donelle Russell was convicted of
falsely threatening to shoot people, and that was at a
private viewing of Surviving R Kelly. They said that it
was a short phone call that was made. I actually
was there that day when they emptied out the theater.
They said the defendant was to the point and he
was terrifying someone at the event had a gun and
was going to shoot up the place. He wanted to

(52:32):
keep these women quiet, and he succeeded his threat. Work.
So it was a screening of Surviving r Kelly and
some of the women that were featured in that documentary
were there. It was going to be a screening and
then a sit down conversation that I was hosting, and
then all of a sudden, everybody get your coat and
get out, get out right now, And so everyone had
to evacuate the theater. The documentary had just started. It

(52:52):
was only a few minutes in. And so now he
has been convicted and he will be sentenced on November
twenty one of this year. By the way, all right now.
Kevin Hurt was on the Pivot podcast with um you know,
Channing Crowder, Ryan clock and Fred Taylor and Channing Crowder
talked a lot about different things, including the fact that
he goes to a nudest colony every year with his wife.

(53:14):
Me and my wife go to a nudest colony, Like
once a year we go to a nudest colony. Going
on and you know, we just kind of go around.
You gotta shave everything and show out. And especially when
you shave, your looks bigger because you gain interest from
no hair. Backup for a second, y'all. So y'all, y'all
get down, that's what you're saying. It's kind of the question.
But we don't get down, but we just like to

(53:36):
be around naked people together. You hear what you're saying.
I hear what I'm saying. It's just eat it. You
don't like to be around naked people, be honest with
you have no desire to be around a bunch of
people I don't know, just sitting there naked. But some people,
but the women you were like you better. As a
matter of fact, I'm willing the beat a good number.
It ain't a lot of put together people I want

(53:57):
to do hilarious. Can you imagine doing that? Well, I
guess it's like Heatonism. I've been in Heatonism a couple
of times. Yeah, we had a Yeah, I used to
be when I used to work at another radio station
in New York or that used to be the destination's
trip for radio trips. Really Jamaica actually, Bill Bellamy was

(54:18):
talking to me about when he went to Heatonism and
they had a Sunday Funday. Yeah, I've been to that.
You've been to Sunday Funday's been the Sunday Funday. It's
interesting when you go to place like Heatonism because literally
you can look out your window and it's just people
doing regular everyday activities, just button naked. Yeah. He said
they were sliding down, you know, into the pool. But
it's just like it's like being on a result, but
it's just everybody's naked, and you're like, damn, I don't

(54:40):
have the confidence of an old white man though, because
I don't. I don't even like nobody's seeing me when
I get fresh out the shower. So you was out
there chilling, and I think they had the fruit side
and the nude side. From what I heard, there's a
side where you can wear clothes and then there's another
side where you have to be naked. Right, Yeah, I
wouldn't call what I saw glyzzies. More like Vienna sausages,
not the Glizzie the big joint hand about the bunt night,

(55:00):
was it that more like Jim action? You know when
you see the old white man in the gym and all.
You see his hair head down there, Jim working at y'all,
do look crazy? I don't know. I gotta ask with you.
I gotta be clear, all right now. Will I Am
was on Skills Hip Hop Confessions podcast and he talked
about some of his favorite rap artists and but he

(55:22):
doesn't particularly care too much for a Biggie and Tupac.
I was such a trip. I'm such a tripe car
question deal, I soo head right that I don't like
Tupoc and big that that kind of music doesn't speak
to my spirit? Right, got you? Got you? So when
there's a conversation like that, it's I like, I like
boogie down productions, Caress One. If it's like tupocer Bigge

(55:46):
and like caress One, right, why why are those two?
Why those two? I'm going to the source, I'm going
prior Right. If it's Tupac and Biggie, I'm like, I don't,
I don't even I don't. I don't hold them up
like that, right, right, respect everybody's opinion, everybody has their
right to an opinion. But why Will I Am? Why
why did we need to hear that that that information?

(56:06):
Why and Furthermore, Tupacet Biggie in certain songs had those
same type of records, right, like, No, and I guarantee
you trip called Questions and day La Soul listening to
Biggie and Tupac keep your head up. I mean, that's
a clue. What are we talking about Scott? Like, what
are we talking about him? Will? I am just he
just he just didn't like Tupocet. Bick ain't nothing wrong,
that's nothing wrong. But he did say I would say

(56:27):
he did say Tuopocets dope. He said, don't get me wrong,
he was just not like, I don't think he's dope.
But he's saying that's not the music that spoke to
his spirit. I respect his opinion. I'm just saying I
don't respect his opinion, no, because I'm willing to debate
that tribe and Caras want a different type of daisy age.
I love all of that, you know what I mean?
So he does, he just didn't. And and by the way,

(56:48):
music is subjective, right, So different things speak to your
spirit at different times. There was times been night Marauders
spoke from my spirit. There was times life after death
spoke to my spirit. You know what, I'm saying it
was times by any means spoke to my spirit. There
was times that all I do on means both to
my spirit but likely like even me, I didn't get
into Caress One until a lot later because carross One
always itched on Queens, so I was just we just
didn't like caress One but different queens. Yeah, something from Queens.

(57:10):
So you know, I just never rock with caress When
at first, but tribal quest was in my neighborhood. Didn't
like poker early on, simply because of he used to
go at mob deeping biggie. I was a mob deeping
Biggie fan, same me, you know what I mean. But
then when I actually started listening to the park and
seeing hearing all the socially redeeming value that he had
in his music, I respected Caress One. I just didn't understand.
I don't you know sooth what I am? All right?

(57:31):
I who are you giving your don't keep you man?
Four after the hour, that's who you're giving it to?
What you're still thinking about that? Huh? You want to
do a radio trip? Then wh where did we go?
We go to Jamaica one time. It was not hedonism.
Four after the Why was people four after the hour?

(57:53):
Um top this? I don't think he glim Thompson. Glim Thompson,
a republic looking in. The lawmaker from Pennsylvania needs to
come to the front of the car. Get you. We'd
like to have a world with him. That what we
did the first radio I don't remember nothing, remember nothing
that never happened. Remember they're trying to do people with roommates.

(58:14):
I don't remember that. I think it was voluntary for Yeah,
I don't remember that. Well, Donkey Days up next, it's
the breakfast logan more. You want to go Charle Mayne
say the game. Don't get man? You are Donkey Today
does not discriminate. I might not have the song of today,
but I got to donkey that. So if you ever

(58:35):
feel I need to be a Donkey man the practice
club bitches, I just don't keep today today. Wow, donkeya
Today for Wednesday, July twenty seventh, go to a Republican
Pennsylvania lawmaker by the name of Glen Glenn Thompson. Now
Glenn Thompson joined the majority of his GOP colleagues and
voting against the House build that will codify federal protections

(58:56):
for same sex marriage. It's called the Respect for Marriage Act.
Oh yeah, you know what the Supreme Court just did
with abortion rights. That's not stopping at abortion, right, y'all
know that, right? You have to know that, right. Okay, Well,
Glenn Thompson was one of the majority of GOP colleagues
who voted against the bill that would codify federal protections
for same sex marriage. And that would usually be part

(59:17):
of the course in regards to the GOP. But Glenn
Thompson's vote against this might come as a surprise to
some folks simply because he has a gay son. All right,
not just the gay son, but Glenn Thompson actually attended
his gay son's wedding just three days after voting against
the bill to protect same sex marriage. You can't make
this kind of hypocrisy up. Let's go to NBC News

(59:39):
for the report. Police one of the Republican congressmen who
voted against protecting same sex marriage attended his gay son's
wedding three days later. The Respects for Marriage Jack passed
the House last Tuesday, but one hundred and fifty seven
Republicans voted no on that bipartisan bill. Pennsylvania Congressman Glenn
Thompson was one of them. He voted no, he said, nope,

(01:00:02):
not going to defend gay marriage. His press secretary argued
it was nothing more than an election year messaging stunt.
But after his gay son's wedding and a statement, his
spokeswoman said, Thompson and his wife were thrilled to attend
and celebrate their son's marriage on Friday night, as he
began this new chapter in his life, adding they are
very happy to welcome their new son in law into

(01:00:23):
the family. The GEOP sold gangster. I'm so impressed, not
by the hypocrisy, but by the call cassidy, the unmitigated
gall listen. I'm going to always be a fan of
unity and group operation. And it is not too many
entities who moved to the beat of the same drum
like the GOP. They not even in power in Washington,
but yet they have all the power because everybody on

(01:00:45):
the right, for the most part, is on the same page.
Oh the things Democrats could get done if they could
simply get people in their own party to vote as
one block. All Right, this man, Glenn Thompson has a
gay son, and just three days after voting to not
protect same sex marriage. He just pulled up to his
gay son's wedding like it was nothing. Right Now, if
you are a father who doesn't approve of your son's

(01:01:07):
lifestyle and you are a lawmaker, this is one way
to protest. But clearly he wasn't protesting his son's wedding
because he went I only get to go. But he
said he was thrilled to attend the NUB shows and
he was very happy to welcome a new son in
law into the family. Hey, Glynn Thompson out here like
business never personal. This right here, just let you know.
Hypocrisy is the audacity to preach integrity from a den

(01:01:31):
of corruption. These people will vote against protecting the rights
of Americans all the while the same community of people
they are pressing be that brothers, sister's, father's, mother's They
don't care because they choose party over everything. All we
want it's for people to practice what they preach or
change their speech. How you showed up for your son

(01:01:52):
and his wedding. We want you to have that same
energy for everyone, but we want you to have that
same energy through legislation. Do it through laws. Okay, let
me tell you something, man, this is why I have
no faith in politics because one party clearly knows what
their agenda is, and when they are willing to vote
against their family, their own flesh and blood, the rest

(01:02:13):
of us don't stay the chance. Okay. If they are
willing to vote against laws that scripaway writes from their
own family, my god, the rest of us are doomed
because the other side isn't willing to do that. Okay.
I used to believe hypocrite got offended by the truth.
I don't believe that anymore because you can tell the
truth about Glenn Thompson being a hypocrite and he wouldn't care,

(01:02:33):
because it's not like his vote was a secret. It's
not like him attending his son's same sex marriage was
a secret. They even had their spokesperson put out a statement,
they don't care what you say about them because the
GOP has a plan and they are sticking to it.
Please give Republican law maker Glen Thompson the biggest he hall,
even though he don't care. Let Chelsea Handle get some

(01:02:57):
of this. Even though Glenn Thompson don't care, he hee haw.
That is way too much Dan Mayonnais. But Kathy Griffin
gets something please give this giant jar male the biggest
he haw hmm. That's it. Yeah, I think that's it.
I mean, unless you just want to play something to

(01:03:18):
make me feel better. Crack crack, I asked cracker. Okay,
feel any better a little bit? Okay, okay, all I
wonder how his sun feels about that. Okay, that's a
great question. I would like to know how this sun
feels about that too. I really would you're at my
wedding and then you did that. I wouldn't want you

(01:03:38):
at my wedding. But he did it after the wedding, right,
he voted three days before before and then three days
later it was the wedding. Yeah, I'd be like, why
are you here? All right? Well, thank you for that.
Don't get so he can't put the glizzies? Yeah? Oh, next,
ask me good glzzies? The three reception five five one

(01:03:59):
five one. And if you got relationship questions you want
to know more about where you can find your favorite Lizzie,
call ye right now. She'll help you out. It's the
Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. What's up? It
is asking what's up? Dominic? Hey? Ye, how are you
doing good? How are you I'm doing good. So what's

(01:04:21):
your question this morning? Yes, so I was having a
problem with a co worker and I just want to
know if either like I'm overreacted, like I should say nothing,
or if I should just let it fly, you know,
or if I do need to say something. I mean,
but tell me what's the problem. Okay, So here's what happened.

(01:04:41):
Like maybe like a few weeks back, my co workers
are talking in a group, and you know, I'm like
the lone wolf. I come through when I feel like it.
So I just came and joined it the conversation and
one of the older women, she's like fifty sixty maybe.
But when the older woman came in and she was like,

(01:05:04):
heyl girl, and I was like, I was like, uh,
don't little girl me. And she was like, well, you know,
I was just playing. I didn't mean to for you.
I was like, no, it's okay, but just don't little
girl me. That's like rude, you know. So you know,
later on that day she's like, comes in and gets
me in private and she's like, I didn't really mean

(01:05:26):
to like talk to you like that. I was like,
I mean that's fine and everything, you know, just I
don't like to be disrespected and dada. But in the
middle of me talking, she's cutting me off. She's like
saying like, oh, I'm just laying you know that I'm sorry,
or that I'm just sorry about the situation, or it's
not that big of a deal. I'm just sorry. I'm like,

(01:05:48):
how are you sorry if you're cutting me off? A
couple of things here. She did apologize, right, right, but
you feel like she didn't let you speak right, like,
let me say my piece because you're getting to say
your piece. Okay, So did you ever get a chance
to say your piece? No, you know, I kind of
just let it. I just kind of let it go because,
like you said, she didn't say sorry. So it's not

(01:06:10):
really something I dwell on and I don't just respect
my elders or anything like that, Like, you know, okay,
to me, this doesn't talk. This doesn't have to be something.
I feel like that. You know, she meant to do
anything wrong to you, and you're right, sometimes people are
set in their ways and you do want to be respectful.
And it feels like the fact that she pulled you

(01:06:31):
to the side to apologize, even though you didn't like
her apology, she did make that attempt, and so if
I were you, because sometimes when things like this happen
and you let it fester, it kind of builds up
and then you're gonna continue to have like a little
bit of a chip on your shoulder. You should actually
tell her be like, listen, I do want to say
I appreciate you taking the time to apologize. You know.
One thing is I didn't get a chance to really

(01:06:52):
speak and say what it is that I had to say,
and I just wanted to say X y Z and
I would love for us to be able to move
forward and not have any more misunders dan Is in
the future. But I do thank you for making that
effort to reach out. Well, I gotta tell you why
I'm burning it up today, okay, because you know that
was a few weeks ago, and nawas seems like she's
the one walking around with the problem with me, like

(01:07:15):
I'm not addressing it. I'm not saying not singing about it.
But now it seems like they're saying like tension in
the room or whatever, And I don't know if I
should address it. Baseball, Yeah you should. Sometimes these things
are just to disconnect. I think you should definitely address it.
Just say, look, I feel like there's a little bit
of a tension. So I just would love for us
because I appreciate how you came to me first to

(01:07:37):
apologize for what you did, and I want to make
sure that we're able to move forward without any issues.
And definitely address it though, because it doesn't feel like
something that's not fixable, and things get blown out of
proportion when people don't communicate. It can start here and
then snowball and continuing. That feels like it's already starting.
So you need to stop it now and stop it.

(01:07:57):
Dead and attracted. Wasn't anything that was like I can
never mess with this person again. I need to lead
this job and quit. But before I gets to that point,
just understand Jim misunderstanding. Who knows, maybe y'all would be
way tighter than ever after that, right that part? So yeah,
thank you, no problem, take care, all right, all right?
We got more with ye when we come back. If

(01:08:19):
you got questions, call up right now. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning. I think everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne,
the guy we all the Breakfast Club with in the
middle of ask ye hello, who's this morning? My name
is Sean. What up? Sean? What's your question today? So
my question is, uh, me and my fiance, we've been
together for a while and her mom is just seemed

(01:08:40):
very dictative over her life, and we bump heads a lot,
and I was just trying to see, like, what's the
way for us not to bump heads and get along
just when we fed and get married. Well, what is
your fiance have to say about that? Well? She she
had to say that, you know her mom and her mom,

(01:09:01):
she's she loved her mom. Her mom's very oranged and
the fact that she is elderly or old and and
she's her mom is like fignies. But she just pretty
much to say that her mom is just there. They
got a good bond. Okay, so you feel this way,

(01:09:22):
but your fiance doesn't feel this way, right, So really
your bumping heads with both her and her mom. Well
she's yeah, whenever me her mom bumphd the mom her
mom couldn't get at her, so then makes me and
her bump head. So yeah, so give me an example
of like what makes her mom controlling? So like we

(01:09:45):
might be have a dinner date set up and going
out to dinner and then have other plans after that
for her mom. For a callar like hey I need you,
I just need some help real quick or whatever. Uh,
and she was like, well, we're out doing something her
mom would be touching around getting mad to where we
have to start what we're doing for her to go
over to her all right, So this sounds like something

(01:10:08):
that your fiance really needs to handle with her mom,
and it's not really anything that you should confront the
mother about. It feels like she needs to be the
person that takes charge of this and figure out why
is it that her mom makes her feel guilty and
why she feels like she can't prioritize you at certain
times if it's not an emergency, right right. So I
feel like this is an issue that you need to

(01:10:28):
talk to her about about how she handles her relationship
with her mother because I don't think that her mom
will respect it coming from you. It has to come
from her own daughter, and her daughter has to be
willing to do that. So this is all about setting boundaries, right.
So what that means is for your fiance, you need
to let her know, look, if it's not an emergency
or if we're out and your mom is calling, you know,

(01:10:50):
let her know you're in the middle of something. Tell
that she can text you or put your phone on.
Do not disturb if you guys are having a planned
to night out, because that's not fair to you. And
so she needs to understand there has to be some
boundary set in their relationship or us. It's going to
affect your relationship now clearly if there's an emergency of
something that she has to handle. Yes, by all means,
you're supportive of that, but it's not going to be

(01:11:12):
you against her mom and should never be that, right,
you know, that's a that's a hard thing to make.
Somebody have to make that decision in that choice, and
you really want the mom to be more um, you know,
accepting and supportive of your relationship than combative when it
comes to that, right, because that doesn't feel good either. Right.
So okay, and what about this, because I'm trying to

(01:11:35):
get her to us for her life on me. My
fiance is is thirty, so she's been here in the
city all her life and I'm trying to her to
support the city and move out of the city. But
her it's just like something guess and with her mom
to where her mom won't let her move out and
mom doesn't want her to break that court. But does

(01:11:56):
she want to move? She's saying no, she she jato
move because of her mom. Her mom would be upset
and mad at her if she was to leave. Well,
how far are y'all trying to move? Is it someplace
that she could drive to where it's easily accessible? No,
it a fight. You know, that's hard. That's hard to
have somebody up with their whole life. And if you
guys are getting married and can't even agree on where

(01:12:17):
you want to live, that's an issue. And I don't know,
are you moving just for the sake of moving her
away from her mom? Or is there something else going on? No,
just for the sake of you know, we're still young,
old kids. We got great careers and it's a whole
life out there there's floored. Well why not just go
on vacations. Why do you have to move right away?

(01:12:38):
I mean that just because you know, how you be
in the same city like we in North Carolina and
we'd be here on our life and even if we
go visit and doing all this other stuff. I mean,
it's just I just feel like it's a whole lot
more out there, you know, I mean, we don't dine
everything here, right, but look, I say this, take your time,

(01:12:59):
deal with getting through this period of time we're getting
married with deciding. Look, if y'all find other great opportunities elsewhere,
that might be a reason to move. But if somebody
doesn't want to, you can't force somebody to want to move.
It has to be something that's gonna make her feel like,
this is something I'm excited and want to do. You know.
It's it's baby steps, yeah, baby steps, yeah. Okay, all right,

(01:13:22):
all right, thank you, all right, no problem, Good luck
on getting married, all right, take care all right. Now,
if you got a question for you eight hundred five
eight five one on five one. Now you got rooms
all the way, yes, and Jesus nice and Marrow their
decision to part ways. We finally got a little bit
of insight. We'll talk about what Merrill had to say

(01:13:43):
about their split, all right, we'll get into that next.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. I
want to get everybody's DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy.
We all to Breakfast Club Let's get to the rumors.
Let's talk via Mays. It's about Angela Needs Breakfast Club. Yes,

(01:14:09):
the MTV VMA nominees are in. They have been announced.
So I'll tell you some of the highlights. And it's
gonna take place on August twenty eighth at eight pm.
It's gonna be in New Work at the Pidential Center.
Video of the Year Doja Cat for Woman Drake featuring
Future and Young thug Ed, Sharon Shivers, Harry Styles as
it was, Little nas X and Jack Harlow, Industry Baby,

(01:14:31):
Olivia Rodrigo, Brutal Tailor Swift all too well, all right.
As far as artists of the Year, that comes down
to Bad Bunny Drake, Ed, Sharon, Harry Styles, Jack Harlow,
Little nas X, and Lizzo. Who you got Lizzo for
artists of the Year. I ain't gonna lie. Bad Bunny
had an amazing year too. That Bunny definitely did. He
broke all kind of records. Artists of the Year Bad

(01:14:52):
Bunny Drake, Ed, Sharon Harry Styles, Jack Harlow, Little nas X,
and Lizzo. Jack Hallo had a big year too, go
Jack Carlo. All right, So those are just some of
the nominees. Now, let's talk about Jesus and Marrow. They
have decided to split ways, and for the first time
ever one of them has spoken. Marrow was on w

(01:15:12):
f A N and here's what he had to say
to Keith McPherson. You know, it's just natural progression, man,
you know what I mean. Like we said on the podcast,
it's Hollywood, baby, you know what I mean. Like, you know,
you you develop strengths and things that you want to
explore and do you know what I mean? And then
you know, things come through naturally. Things just happen like naturally,
you know. And you know, I'm sure d guys, things

(01:15:34):
that you want to do. I got my things I
want to do, you know what I mean, Like, and
they're very like specific to us because you know, we've
been a duel for a long time. You know what
I'm saying. I love everything that he's done, you know
what I'm saying, Like instead of just like staying like, yo,
we're only going to do this one thing. You know,
Let's explore. Let's let's let's break out. Let's let's see
what what what we do as individuals. Now. According to
reports puck News, reported that Jesus and Marrow's creative partnership

(01:15:58):
ended over management disputes, and five sources close to the
situation said that shell Time asked their manager, Victor Lopez,
to no longer attend tapings or appear in meetings. Jesus
allegedly took Showtime side as a network accused Lopez of
a whole behavior, and Merrill reported Lea stood by Lopez.
So those are just some of what sources are saying,

(01:16:19):
all right. Kendrick Lamar sat down with Jazzy's World TV
We Love Her, and he talked about a viral clip
where a security guard was crying while watching him perform
Love Now. That security Devin Sanford, was at the Toyeta
Center in Houston, and they went viral when someone posted
a TikTok video of him crying while Kendrick performed. He
has since released a statement saying that's me in the post. Y'all.

(01:16:41):
This song means everything to me and I was feeling
everybody around me emotions. Definitely love getting paid to do this. Well,
here is what Kendrick hat to say. So I'm sually
so many people become very emotional after hearing your music
and seeing your performances. So what ways do you feel
you've been able to positively impact people with your music?
Really just about the feeling of it. You know, at

(01:17:01):
the end of the day, of past all the politics,
pass all our numbers, it's what music make you feel,
you know, how I make you feel. So to see
that and shout out to him by the way, because
I see him brought. I was like, man, I wonder
what he's going through, you know. But at the end
of the day, that's how you want everybody to receive
your music, and you know, make him feel good, make
him feel like a moment they're attached to, they could
live forever. All right, that's a beautiful thing. Music that

(01:17:22):
makes you feel something. Right, all right, I'm Angela Yee
and that is your rumor reports. All right, thank you missed.
I don't forget my car show August twenty in Atlantic City.
If you haven't got your tickets, get your tickets. It's
gonna be a family fun day driving up, bring the
kids to family, your mama, your grandparents. There's gonna be
carnival rides, games, roller skate in, double dutching, and of
course cars, cars, cars. We're actually doing a rally from

(01:17:44):
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you or Matches Firm dot com. Today morning, everybody is
DJ Envy, Angelo, Ye, Charlomagne the Guy. We are to
Breakfast Club. We got special guests joining us. Come on, man,
it's royalty right here. Man, were you talking about? We
got the brother bun? B are we doing? They forced
advertised Bun. They called me yesterday, say your buckets coming
by the show. He wants to bring chill burgers. We

(01:18:50):
were all excited. Charlomagne was excited. I was not excited.
I was upsetting. I actually was excited because I'm like, why,
I just not how I want my first year burger Bun. No,
I'll be in Bundy. I'll be texting Bunny. I've alone.
I've been talking about trill Burgers for two months talking
about it. I was like, my main thing was do
y'all have vegan burgers? And you said, yes, you do,
Yes we do, But I don't have either with me,

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right because I thought the chef was gonna come up
with me last night, but he couldn't. He had to
go home and get everything ready because we got a
big day Friday. I was going on Friday for people
that don't know Bud all right, So on Tuesday in Houston,
Good Morning, well all of this week, Good Morning America
is going around the country looking for the best burger
in America. So they went to four different cities. Houston

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was one of them. I competed against the Brad called
Burger Chin a really good competition, um, but we won.
And so Troll Burgers is one of four burgers that
are going to compete for the best burger in America
on Good Morning in America in Times Square that I
don't know, okay, because I can't talk. They won't tell us,
so I can't like hop into DM and shoot, you

(01:19:58):
don't lead. Because everybody who's had the Trill Burger loves it.
They go crazy for it. So it looks amazing like
it just looks like a tasty assurger. We put a
lot into it, you know. When I was approached by
Andy Win the next Kirtfield about partnering with them on
this burger, I was I'd been looking for an entry
point into the food industry for a while, and they

(01:20:19):
approached me with a concept that was very easy to
consistently produce, very easy to scale up and replicate. And
when I tried to burger, I was like, Yo, this
is like a real good burger. Can't you get better?
And they were like, yeah, I give us a couple
of days. We think we can improve on it. When
I came back and tried it the second time. I
was like, I'm ready to go. And we sat around

(01:20:40):
for a while trying to think, alike, you know, we
gonna buns buns buns Burgers. I'm like, look, we got
a brand that with thirty years of blood, sweat and
tists equity. Let's just call it trill Burgers. Everybody will
know what it is. As long as they see my
face associated with the name, they'll know it's official. And
we put that product out there about a little over
a year ago at the Taste Maker Awards and Houston,

(01:21:00):
which is the biggest culinary rewards for restaurants and chefs
in the city, and we had the biggest line all night,
and the momentum just built up from there. We've been
traveling around the country doing pop ups and catering events
and festivals really has been like the big one for
us because a festival allows me to be in one
place for three days. The cultural queue point works because

(01:21:24):
it's a hip hop festival. My brand works in that space.
So I'll get people to show up just on GP
just to show love be like, you know, well let's
just see if the burger is good. Then they tried
to realize the burger is great, and now they're in
one place for three days. So after they tried on
Friday and they like it, they come back Saturday, they
bring their friends. People see the line getting longer every day,
so it exponentially increases every day through festivals and that's

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been a good business model. Yeah, my fat as definitely
tried to get a Trill burger at the Black Effect
Podcast Festival, but that was more for my own personal
reasons than everybody else. Yeah. No, I've seen James Harden
tried the other day and then you said, before you
put your Kim robbed the tape on the burger. Yeah. No,
it's crazy. As soon as I pulled it, like he
was eating the burger, I was like, hold on, let
me get my phone, let me get some footage of this.
And by the time I got the phone out, the

(01:22:08):
man had one bite left and by the time I
started recording, he was done. Um. And it's crazy because
my niece said, Uncle, Bunna, we're gonna have to start
asking for dietary restriction. Because I took my nieces and
my granddaughter to roll Aloud and all they wanted to
do was me baby, a little baby, and we got
the little baby, and baby wanted a burger, but he
doesn't like cheese on his burger. So we're gonna create

(01:22:30):
like a special plane Jane. The plane Jane is gonna
be the next tril Burger. What's your favorite what's your
favorite things on the on the tril Burger. So I'm
in you. It's very simple. That's that's the way that
we're able to keep Oh no, for me, I mean,
we got my my burgers, the Trillo Gee Burger, you
know what I'm saying. That's my namesake. Two slices of
American cheese, two one fourth pound patties, two pickles or

(01:22:54):
patting the trill sauce, and Mark's potato rock Man Mama
drooling over here, you know. And it's it's an amazing burger.
Like I tell people that people think I'm over talking
as people should like they should think that their brand
is But when you try my burger, you realize, Joe,
this burger really is the best burger in the world.

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I mean, it's a balance of catch up in Mayo,
but there's also a third ingredient that I don't say. Okay,
I knew it. I get you close. But I get
you close and I can't take you all away. I
knew it was good when I saw a little du
ball eating. Now I tech the Boston man the trie
burger really that good. He's in No, man, goodall don't
eat people. Don't realize I got crunchy black to eat
the burger. Wow. And crushy black don't eat food. Wow.

(01:23:38):
You know what I'm saying. And he ate the whole burger.
He's like, I ain't stopped it to like eat this
whole burger. And the first thing Paul would say, Hey man,
that man don't eat food. So it's gotta be good.
Damn No, We're getting a really good reaction for people. Man,
we got a really good product. We believe in it.
We got the Trilog Burger. We have the Onion Burger,
which is basically a Trilog which mother caramelized onions on top.
And then we got the vegan Burger. Because I don't

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want to leave people out of this process. I know
a lot of people um and communities of color on
embracing a healthier lifestyle, So we want to be a
part of that. We want to make sure that everybody
that wants to get a tril Burger, has access to
a trail Burger and has one that they would prefer
that that's coming. I keep getting a lot of calls
about turkey burgers, you know what I'm saying, and Turkey

(01:24:21):
burger turkey patties. Um, you saw, it's different and you
have to flavor different. Yeah, um, I feel it needs
a lot more flavor. Yeah. But my thing is, I
really want to at some point try I don't know
if anybody's ever had Ground Lamb, but Ground Lamb actually
holds season. It really, really well. I loved Ground. Some
friends of mine in Houston and Eat Boys. They had created, um,
the Lamb Burger a couple of years ago, and I

(01:24:44):
was like, I didn't even really like Lamb until they
did that. And then I tried another Lamb Burger and
I realized how it holds a season. So we want
to have a MEANU that gives everybody the opportunity to
come in and try Trilburger. So, yeah, turkey Burgers and
chicken burgers or something that we have to consider franchise open.
And though I know the Trillburger franchise coming, yeah, No.
My thing is, you know, in order to do this

(01:25:05):
properly for the long run, I have to get that
one door done right, you know, give it about a year.
Figure out my system in terms of source and ingredients.
You know, staffing is going to be a problem as
this brand explode. So I'm just trying to scale how
we approach this because I get cast every day. You
know what I'm saying. Every time you see somebody of

(01:25:26):
status and means try trill burger, I got bread, I
got money, I'm want in because they know this is
going to work. They see me as a salesman out
here working this brand myself, so they know that this
thing is going to work. But and it would be
cool to just take all this cash and the fuse
the company, but that would just dilute my shares of
a company. But also, man, I just want to take
my time with this because I really think I have

(01:25:48):
the best burger in the world, and I just want
to take the time to bring it out to people carefully.
I agree with that open your flagship, make sure that
everything when you do franchise, they have to do some
type of quality control. Absolutely still represents the brand no
matter what. And we want to hire from within so
we want to bring people on this team that you
know who started in our kitchen and moved to the

(01:26:09):
front of the house and eventually become you know, managers
and district managers, regional managers, trainers and eventually franchise owner.
You know, I would love to build this company from
the bottom and make a whole new batch of rich
Paul's out here in the food industry. Bunba tomorrow, he's
gonna be a good Morning America. Yeah, it's not. It
wasn't like an official conversation. Bun just pulled up real quick,

(01:26:30):
you know what to tell us. Not happening a Friday.
I appreciate it, man, y'all have always made the door
opened to me. Literally, I walked in the door open now.
But y'all have been so gracious with y'all platform for people. Man.
You know, y'all make yourselves available and give people a
place to speak their truth and talk to the world. Now,
I've always respected and appreciated it, man, And I want
to say thank you too, Bunny. You know, for the
car shows. Bun gave me his call for Houston, and

(01:26:52):
he gave me his calls for Atlanta, and I just
want to say thank you, and Bun pulled up to
all the car shows, signed pictures, took pictures with people
and walked around the car shows talk to people, greeting people.
So that means a lot to me and definitely the
people and the kids out there. Man, So thank you.
No man, I'm a people person. Man. I think that's
my best trade is the fact that I'm personable and approachable.
Approachable excuse me, you know absolutely well it's buton bat Yeah,

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it's the breakfast Club. We got the post when we
come back. Support them on Friday. If you're in Time Square,
go out and support them. Are watching on television and
make sure if you're out and about you get that
trail Burger Charlomagne, what you heading out to do? Well? First,
I want to say thank you to my man, Stephen Colbet. Man.
You know that's home for me, the Colbet Show. I
go on Corbet Show all the time. But you know,
Stephen Colbert's executive producer of my late night talk show

(01:27:34):
Hell of a Week. Uh. Second season premiers this Thursday
at eleven thirty pm, right after the Daily Show. So
I was on there last night, So salute to him.
And I'm about to head out to go a host
Good Day in New York with Roseanne A Scotto. Yeah,
that's the homie someone I'm going to co host co
host with her. Um and also make sure you go

(01:27:56):
get your tickets for the Black Effect Podcast Festival is
happening in Sunday, August eighth in Brooklyn. We got live
podcasts from the eighty five South Show, Horrible Decisions, just added,
Earn Your Leisure, just Hilarious will be there, just to
name a few. So make sure you go to Black
Effect dot com Slash Podcast Festival to get your tickets.
We got food, we got drinks, we got my man

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Mouse Jones doing track karaoke, we got a business in
Podcasting panel, a woman in Podcasting panel, all kinds of
good stuff, man, So make sure you join us on Sunday,
August twenty eighth. And my positive notice simply this trust
that what God removes is just as important as what
she provides. Breakfast Club, y'all finish her, y'all dumb

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