Two Sides of the Story ( Russell Simmons Interview and the Mother of Breonna Taylor)

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Good morning m Charlomagne, the god piece to the planet.
Guess what day it is? Guess what day it is?

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Jane and morning. Shout out to everybody in the sixth Toronto.
Come morning, everybody. How's everybody on his home day? Whoa
well today? I definitely need to take my vitamins? But
why is that? Well? Yesterday was a long day. After

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the show, Angie Martinez and I spoke to Tamika Palmer,
who is Brianna Taylor's mother. Brianna Taylor would have been
twenty seven on Friday, but this was all after over
the weekend, we had a zoom call and Brianna Taylor's
mother still hasn't gotten justice for the police killing her.
This was in Louisville, Kentucky, on March thirteenth. The police
officers who they had the no knock warrant, which I

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know a lot of people have been having conversations about
no knock warrants right now and they have even temporarily
suspended them in Louisville, Kentucky. But they went to her
house thinking that somebody was selling drugs out of her home.
Turns out they had the wrong address and the person
had already been apprehended four hours earlier. They broke down
her door and started shooting and ended up killing They

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shot her eight times, and they still haven't gotten justice.
The police officers haven't been fired, there's no charges, nothing.
So this happened on March thirteenth again, and so right
now we want to just make sure everybody knows the
story and make sure that police do at least something
has to happen for these police officers so that Tamika

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can feel some sort of justice was served. And she
talks about how alone she felt. You know, this all
happened when coronavirus was early on in the stages, so
people were distracted by that, and she's been getting the
runaround and there's different stories, and she gets to tell
her whole story. So Andy Martinez and I came together
to do this interview yesterday just because a lot of women.

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Things are happening with women, also with Black women, and
their stories aren't being told and there hasn't been justice
served in a lot of those, so we want to
make sure that we actually amplify their story. Yeah, I
can't wait to hear this conversation because there's so many
details that you just don't know. It's kind of since
coronavirus and the COVID nineteen and Joy Floyd and the protest,
you really didn't necessarily get this full, complete story. You

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didn't hear the impact of this story. So I'm excited
about this conversation. The sad part about stories like Brianna
Taylor's it's like out of sight, out of mind, right,
because you have videos for everything else. It's visuals for
Almud Aubrey, visuals for George Floyd, you know, being that
it's not a visual for Brianna Taylor. Are other people
that get killed at the hands of the police. You know,
people don't. People seem not to focus attention and energy

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on them. They forget about it so fast. Yeah. Absolutely,
So I'm excited about this conversation also, and it was
a nine one and there was a nine one one call.
By the way, that is heartbreaking when you hear it,
because when you hear her boyfriend calling nine one one,
I was like broke down when I listened to that.
It's hard to listen to. And also Russell Simmons will
be checking in this morning. You know, Russell Simmons, the

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founder Jeph Jim and the found us so many different things.
He'll be checking in to talk about a new book
he has coming out shortly. It's called Eat to Live.
And we're also gonna be talking about everything that's going
on Russell Simmon life. So there's a lot going on
with Russell Simmons. Are we gonna talk about all at
today this morning? That was hard for against him, so

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we'll talk to him as well. So let's get the
show cracking front page news. What we're talking about, Well,
let's talk about the chaos during the primaries that happened
in Georgia. Yesterday, long lines, a lot of confusions. I
don't know what's going to happen with voting machines and
provisional ballots and all of that. But we'll give you

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some updates on what happened yesterday when people went to
go vote. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep
a lot just to Breakfast Club. Good morning, good morning.
Everybody is DJ Envy Angela yee, Charlemagne the guy we
are the Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news.
Where we starting you, Well, let's start with voting in Georgia.
There were a lot of voting delays across the state,

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and officials are calling for investigations. They're going to be
investigating why voters spent four hours at some point standing
in line. It was a hot June day and people
were supposed to be voting. Some voting was extended to
nine thirty pm, more than two and a half hours
after they were supposed to close, and at least one
precinct stayed open until ten ten pm. So imagine that

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some people were leaving because they just couldn't wait any longer.
And so right now it looks like voting machines were down,
they were limited provisional ballots. People were saying, voter suppression
is happening right now, particularly in black communities. That's where
a lot of this went down. They said, we cannot
let this happen in November. So, oh God, I've sat

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on this radio and gotten on cable news networks numerous
times and said, with possible Russian interference, voted depression, meeting
people not enthused about the candidate and voted suppression, how
are you going to beat Donald Trump in November and
all you had? Democrats says, we have to get the
largest voter turnout in American history. Well, guess what people
hope is not a strategy? What is the plan to

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beat things like voter suppression? How got stayed? Election of
officials are saying there were all kinds of issues like
inexperienced election workers, safety issues because a coronavirus, the heightened
use of absent see ballots, and they're saying that they
were malfunctioning equipment and all kinds of things that were happening.

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And Democrats are looking to defeat two Republican senators in
a twenty twenty in a state where they haven't had
a democratic senator elected in twenty years going to happen.
We know that voting is going to happen. We know
these you know, election booths will be open. There's nothing
in place to prevent possible voter suppression. Nothing. This isn't

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I don't know, man, good luck it's going to happen
in November. I don't know, because hope it's not a strategy.
All you hit Democrats. We need the largest voter turnout
in American history? What are you doing to get that?
What are you doing to galvanize people in a job
people and guard to people to come out? They just
fear of Donald Trump is gonna be enough, don't. I
don't know if that's the case. And yesterday was also

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the day that George Floyd was laid to rest. That's
when they had the service that actually was a private service,
so people were you know, Monday yesterday, they did have
people waiting in long lines and in the heat. More
than sixty three hundred people waited to pay their respects.
But yesterday's service lasted close to four hours. It was

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only inviting guests. Those guests included people like Floyd Mayweather Junior,
who actually paid for the funeral services, slim thug Paul Wall,
of course, Attorney Bank Crump was there. Reverend Al Sharpton,
the mayor Sovested Turner was there as well in Houston,
and some of the people who spoke included Brooke Williams,
who is George Floyd's niece. And I can breathe. As

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long as I'm breathing, justice will be served. My uncle
was a father, brother, uncle, and a cousin to men,
spiritually grounded, an activist. He always moved people with his words.
They're officer, show remorse, well watching more uncle's soul leave
his body? Why must this system be corrupt and broken?
Laws were already put in place for the African American

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system to fail. These laws to be changed. No more
hate cross please. Someone said make America great again? But
one has America ever been great for black people? In
George Floyd and Joe Biden spoke via video. Here's what
he said. Why in this nation and too many Black

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Americans wake upt knowing that they can lose their life
and of course you're just living my life. We cannot
leave this moment thinking we can once again turn away
from racism. It's things that are very soul. It's about
who we are, what we believe, and maybe most importantly,
who we want to be. So sure that all men

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and women are not only created equal, but are treated equally,
we can heal this nation's wounds and remember it's pain,
not callous the heart and forget. I was surprised he
didn't actually go. I was really surprised, and the Reverend
Au Shopton, who was there, spoke as well. All over
the world, George, they march in with your name. Even

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in a pandemic. People are walking out in the streets
because you've touched the world. And as we lay you
to rest today, the movement won't rest until we get justice,
until we have one standard of justice. Your family is
gonna miss you, George, but your nation is going to

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always remember your name, because your neck was one that
represented all of us, and how you suffered represented our suffering.
Other people who were there were families and people who
have loved ones that were killed by the police, like
Eric Garner's mother was there, Baltham Jean's sister, the family

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of Pamela Turner, the father of Michael Brown, trade by
Martin's here I'll Shopton also recognized Ja by Martin's mother
and the father of ahmud Arberry. M Yeah, definitely, rest
in peace, George Floyd, all right, got your front page news.
Get it off your chest? Eight on drink five eight five,
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to breakfast club. Good morning the breakfast Club. I'm telling
I'm telling, all right, what's you do if this is
your time to get it off your chest, whether you're
mad or blessed. Eight hundred five eighty five, one oh
five one. We want to hear from you on the
breakfast club. Hello, who's this you? We're good, Envy. What's up? Traft?

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Good morning? Yeah, good morning, good morning. Hey, Hey, what's
up traf? How are you doing? Boom? I'm good? How
are you? Boom? I'm done good, I'm done good, going on,
Charlotte Magine, he's what I'm says, chilling like a villain,
chilling like a villain. Hey man, I'm gonna trying to um,
I'm gonna try to say this without without bringing out,
without bringing down a black woman, all right, but I

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have to get something else. One shots, so somebody has
to take just not that hilarious, thrown away from her
bro like, she is a bold faced liar, and I'm
tired of it. You know, Like the same way that
we're not tolerting racist anymore is the same way I'm
not about to tolerate any type of discriminatory behavior from
anyone man. She went on her rant, and in her

(11:20):
rant she stated that just because this is because she
called somebody a that it shouldn't have spent the entire
LGBT community, and they just sounds so stupid to me.
But this is like if a white person called somebody
a and he only needs to say that one individual
black person iss going to affect everybody in the black community.

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So when you call this sixteen year old black man,
you know, young man at f man, he didn't call
you a chi And that's just what it is, that
she's a bold faced liar. That young man never called her.
He said he called her a horse face and said
that she looks like a man, and he needs to
stop lying. She's a bold face liar and I'm tired
of her. Do you definitely don't like just hilarious. I

(12:02):
didn't pay I didn't see that what transpired, So you
really broke it down. Rank about Oh y'all, y'all don't
have a platform like everybody that has the Instagram has
the platforms. Some people platforms just happened to blow up,
like just Hilary, if nobody needs you're not a celebrity
for real, like stopping. She is also in her forties
calling a sixteen year old that's the last thing our

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twenties crazy. I know how old she is and her
forties though I'm saying you can't now you disrespecting her?
Come on now, but that's not no. But still there's
a difference. But so this is because I called this
this because I told a white woman you look like
a horse, and she called me And you ever have
a problem with this, So have the same problem with
the same people who do the same thing to black

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You don't like you don't like the slurries. I don't
like the slur And I know exactly what Billie Pard
is talking about. And Charlotte Man, you cant in the
act like you know he's talking about some about black
people are intolerant. No, there are some black people would
literally be like, oh, people look at me like this.
I'll kill him because he gave it. That was if
you listen, t that was. That was a terrible analogy
that he used, because white supremacy is the same White

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supremacy is what kept gay people from getting married. White
some supremacy is what kept gay people from having the
same rights like black people are doing that he's not
talking about. Just just just just say that, Just say,
just say black people have been intolerant over gay people
over the years. Don't say white supremacy. Bro, come on down. Well,
I don't say white supremacy, but I'm talking about the

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USI intolerance. No, there are some black there are some
black people who just hate gay black people because they're gay.
It's not impowering, but it's but it's still not white supremacy.
White supremacy is oppressing your rights and marginalizing your right.
White white supremacy. But Billy Billy Parter did though. That's
what I'm saying. That's why I said it was a
bad enough. Well, well, thank you Traving for calling in

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and checking into everything. Geez, all right, get it off
your chest. Eight undred five eight five one oh five one.
If you need to vent, hit us up now. It's
the Breakfast Club. Good morning, The Breakfast club. This is
your time to get it off your chest, whether you're
man than from you on the breakfast club, like you

(14:08):
got something on your mind. Hello, who's this? Yeah? Good morning,
good morning or something every or something every morning? Brother
cha good morning. Now first and foremost, man, I want
to say peace to everybody part that's listening. Man, you
gotta spread love more and more each and everything. Man.
But awesome, man, I want to talk about the George
Fords video real quick man, first one rescu peace to

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the brother. It's the shame that he's not in a longer.
But if you peak the video, man, look at the paramedics.
They didn't look like regular paramedics. They didn't even they
didn't even do anything that most paramedics are supposed to do. One. Yeah,
I was thinking about that yesterday too, like should they
be charged as well. They didn't do they didn't try
to resuscitate them, they didn't give them CPR. They look
kind of crazy too. I didn't see them do anything

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on them, right, That's what I'm saying. So about my
constant I mean not to be a conspiracy theory, but
like it just looks it's just two two choreographs or somebody,
so like, you know, and then look where everything is
that right now? Why I check this one brother for everybody,
she's just really upgrowd. And it'sn't like a plan that

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everybody just follows step and shout right into place. I
think that it was a lot of different factors. We've
been home for three months because of the coronavirus pandemic,
and you know, people have been sitting in the house.
People don't have jobs right now, say you really don't
have anything to do, but out there in protest, which
is a great thing. You gotta think if everybody had
was at work, had jobs to go to, we can

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probably forgot about George Floyd already. Sadly, I guess I
got a great dis great shot. But I don't know, man,
I just I just feel like this becomes such more
more political now than than ever, you know what I mean,
And it goes it is an election at least brutality,
I mean, indeed, but it goes for police brutality to
a kid as always black against white, black against white.

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But there are a lot of policles that are being
initiated because of what's been happening and because of bringing
attention to George Floyd. Well, thank you for calling brother
Foy is dead because it's systemic racism. So it's not
black against white, it's US versus white supremacy. It's US
versus systemic racism. Get it off your chest. Eight hundred

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five A five one oh five one. If you need
to vent, you can hit us up. Now, we got
rumors on the way. Ye. Yes, we are going to
be talking about a TV show that has gotten canceled.
And this show has been on the air since nineteen
eighty nine. All right, we'll get into that next. Keeping
locked this to Breakfast Club. Good Morning, the Breakfast Club. Morning.

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Everybody is ej Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
all the Breakfast Club. Let's get to the rumors. Let's
talk about a show that might never come back. It's
about some rumor report angel Ye the Breakfast Club. Well,

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Cops and some other law enforced theme shows have been canceled.
The Paramount Network has officially pulled the plug on Cops. Now.
Cops started airing on Fox. They aired on Fox for
twenty five seasons, and then Spike TV started airing it
in twenty thirteen, and then after that the Paramount Network
acquired the show from Spike TV. Now they are saying

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Cops is not on the Paramount Network and we don't
have any current or future plans for its return. The
thirty third season of the show was supposed to start
on Monday, but no episode has aired since June first.
That's when obviously there's been a lot of protests against
police brutality, a lot of people supporting the Black Lives
Matter movement and all of that. So it originally premiered

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back in nineteen eighty nine, and right now they've been
under fire for its depiction of law enforcement and for
the questionable practices behind the scenes. I mean that means,
that means something to people who folks like that as
like Cops. I don't care about Cops TV show being canceled.
I care about Cops being fired and bought the Justice
in a quarter law. I care about the Justice of

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Policing Act. You know that that bands the type of
chokeholds that killed George Floyd. I care about that because
that band's no knock warrants that in cases like the
one that killed Brianna Taylor, like New York passing the
aragona anti chokehold act. I care about stuff like that.
I care about govern A CuMo pushing the pastor Amy
Cooper bill making it a hate crime to call nine one,
nine one one with a false accusation of racism, Like

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I don't care. If the Cops TV show got canceled,
that means, well, you know, another show, Live PD, which
shows on A and E, also was pulled from the air.
Now what's interesting about that. I don't know if you
guys had been hearing about Javier Ambler. He was a
forty year old father if two. He was a postal worker,
and he died last year in March twenty eight, twenty nineteen,
while being arrested in Austin, And they were actually filming

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the Live PD during that episode. I was going to
I was gonna say, with those shows, it doesn't make
it good that they have people recording to see what
those police officers are actually doing, Like you know who's
taping him? It is nobody taping him, Like, but they're
supposed to be the body cameras and footage on the cars.
But the problem is this, they're saying that a lot

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of times on those shows they overreact to situations like
in the case of Javier Ambler, they said he was
pulled over because he didn't dim his suv headlights to
oncoming traffic. He got he ended up getting tasered four times,
and they said he was saying he has congestion, heart failure,
he couldn't breathe, he was crying out, save me, and
then they chased him again. Yeah, and this, mind you,

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this happened last year in March and so, and this
was all during a taping for a live PD that
this happened, and there were a lot of complaints from
local people about how the cops were treating them because
they were filming the show and they felt like some
of the deputies were filming the show and doing a
lot of stuff for that, And then the way that
they edited and the way that they edited, because they

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have full control over how they edited, so the cops
can choose how that video is edited. And so that's
another issue of how people left part treating how the
cops are portrayed on these shows. Gotcha. It's just it's
just amazing that those production companies ever thought that was entertainment.
That's why I don't look at them now and salute
them all. Applaud them. For twenty five years, you thought
cops and their relationship with the community was entertainment. Now

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all of a sudden, you got a heart. Get that
out of here now. Interestingly enough, that footage that they're
looking for, right A and E has not handed over
that footage, and they said that footage has been destroyed.
So they said, as they can't stop, but it's taken
by live PD producers, we no longer retain the unaired footage.
After learning that the investigation had concluded, Oh crap, Charlemagne.

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Now you you you know you you have a production
company and you film a lot. Have you ever seen
anybody say, no, we destroyed the footage. I know some
of these they had footage for years. Yeah, but I
don't know who has I don't know who has the
actual rights to the footage. I don't know if the
I don't know if there's a camera crew out there
with the actual police officer. There's a camera crew out
there with the police officers. There's an actual camera crews

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out there with the police officers. Oh so they got
the footage, then absolutely definete they get rid of a
lot of a lot of PD makes too much money,
and as I said, too high. I don't know. I
don't know how cops was doing. That's what I'm saying.
You said, who was entertaining? Like people watch it the ratings,
who are high as hell? Well, the host of the
show tweeted out to all of you asking whether LIVEPD

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coming back. The answer is yes. All of us associated
with the show are as committed to it as ever.
We are still discussing some specifics, but I want to
assure the LIVEPD nation that we are not abandoning you. Yeah.
I wonder why those networks don't push to to fund
the police, like those networks push to you know, get
the cops that killed Brianna Taylor arrested, like do specials
about stuff like that. You know what I'm saying, because

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they have those big platforms. So when you got those
big platforms using you know. All right, Well, I'm Angela
Yee and that is your rumor report. All right, Now,
we got FROMT Page News. Next what we're talking about. Yes,
and let's talk about what's been happening. Voting yesterday people
had to vote and in Georgia there were a lot
of issues. All right, we'll get into that next. Keeping
lock this to Breakfast club. Good morning morning. Everybody is

(21:53):
DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the
Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front page news where
were starting you Well, officials in Georgia have launch and
investigation into what happened yesterday during election day. Now you
know what they did in Georgia was they actually have

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to phase out paperless voting machines by this year. So
many voting issues were because of these new machines that
were provided as part of a contract, a multimillion dollar
contract with Dominion Voting Systems. But they're saying in some
counties people were not able to vote. As a matter
of fact. Mayor Kesha Lance Bottoms tweeted at one point

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that none of the machines in one precinct were working,
so some people were waiting online for up to four hours. Now.
Kamala Harris also tweeted out voting machines down, limited provisional ballots,
hours long lines, voter suppression is happening right now. Of
course Georgia, particularly in black communities, we can't let this
happen in November. Yeah, but why do we keep falling

(22:58):
for the same tricks every year. Keep telling y'all, how
do you expect to beat Donald Trump in November when
all the same problems, all the same issues in trickery
that got him got him in the election in twenty sixteen.
Are still had played this ship possible Russian to the parents,
voted depression because people aren't enthused about Biden like they
weren't about Hillary, and voted suppression, which we saw in
Georgia again yesterday. It seems weird, it's twenty twenty. Bro

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the fact that these machines, they can't get them working
at this problems like it's twenty twenty, Like this sea
isn't crazy. Yeah, these are new machines. And the other issue,
they said, we're health concerns because of coronavirus and you know,
some places because schools are closed, so they had to
consolidate some of the locations where you can go vote.
They said, the state has mailed Act sin see ballot
requests also to registered voters, but I'm not sure how

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that's going to play into things. So polling stations New
Jersey talk to Democrats and asked him, are you planning
to go in or do you want to mail it in?
I'm probably gonna go in. Now, I'm gonna go into.
It's kind of based on where I live at. It's
kind of simple for me to vote because it's just

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like this little church right up the street. Yeah, for
me too, it's very simple for me. But yeah, I'm
gonna go in. And I don't you know, I don't
want to mail it in and something to get, you know,
stuck in the mail. And there's always been stories of
you would hear people stealing the mail. I'm gonna take
my assent up. I don't trust the mail in ballot.
And then it's it's sad when you talk to Democrats
and ask them how they're gonna win in November and

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they always say, we have, well, we hope to have
the largest voter turnout in American history. Well, guess what,
people hope. It's not a strategy, all right, but it's
hope the best you can come up with. Jesus. Okay,
do you guys remember doctor Anthony Fauci I heard of
who who was that? Who was that? Well he's the

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infectious disease expert who had previously had daily briefings about coronavirus,
but now he is warning that coronavirus is still not
over and that the nightmare pandemic isn't even close to over.
He said, in a period of four months, it has
devastated whole world and it isn't over yet. He said
there's still a world of uncertainty around the virus, how

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it spreads, how it impacts the body. He said coronavirus
is much more complex in HIV, which is a virus
he spent his career studying because of the different levels
of seriousness and infections from asymptomatic carriers to patients who
end up having fatal conditions. And he said vaccines will
be the only way to stop the spread of the coronavirus,
and he did express confidence that there is an antidote

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in the works. So that is what he still had
to say about coronavirus. Now who the World Health Organization
also had said that it was very rare for asymptomatic
coronavirus transmissions to occur. Right now, they're walking back those comments,
and here's what they said. I was referring to some
detailed investigations, cluster investigations where we had reports from member

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states saying that when we follow asymptomatic cases it's very
rare that we found a secondary transmission. What I didn't
report yesterday was because this is a major on some groups.
Some modeling groups have tried to estimate what is the
proportion of asymptomatic people that may transmit UM but some
estimates of around forty of transmission may be due to asymptomatic.

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I'm sick of who I need to talk to, where
and why I don't want to hear from? Who know more? Exactly?
What are you talking about? Why did things change all
the time with them said he needs I don't. I
don't know what she said. Just now, can I go outside?
It isn't doctor fault. You DJ, who's trying to get

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a pat crowd to go home? Like he's he already,
Like you know even you interview a DJ. He's trying
to get us a PAT crowd and they're trying to
get the people out, and nobody leaving, nobody leaving. Guys,
you gotta go. People still dancing, police outside, guys, guys
playing start playing gospel music, they start dancing slow music.
They start dancing. Lights be saved by my last song.

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I promise guys, you gotta leave. YEP, that's about you.
That's found you right now, you're that is your front
page news all right now. When we come back, Russell
Simmons will be joining us. We're gonna kick with Russell
Simmons about all that's going on with him, his allegations.
He has a new book and all that. So don't
move Russell Simmons. When we return. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning everybody in cej Envy Angela,
yee Sean, I mean the guy we are the Breakfast Club.
We got a special guest on the line that uncle
Rush Russell Simmons. Welcome. How you doing Brow, How are
you well? First of all, where are you Russ? Because
you never like right now? I'm in my home in Bali.

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I got stuck here, you know. They called the borders
and I got stuck, which is fine by me. So
I'm still here. I haven't been back since the middle
of January. Why Bally what's so? What's so good about Bally?
What do you like about Bally Man? It's Yoga, Vegan Disneyland.
And also I have work here in Asia. I have
a talent agency and some thirteen countries and Bali is

(28:04):
kind of in the middle of all the countries. So
it's really a great location. And it's it's like people
come here for self study and self realization, and this
is a place of pilgrimage for a lot of people
to come. And I think life's only goal is to
know the self, what kind of self? Well, it's an

(28:25):
ongoing process. I mean everything we do is to find
the self. So whether it's through meditation or yoga or
just do good deeds or any of it. You know,
you move a little quicker. We're all going towards God,
like it or not, and we all are discovering the self.
But the rate of which we discovered itself depends on
our effort. So in more presence, more happiness or Russie.

(28:47):
You know, you lost your You lost your best friend recently,
Andre Horrel, good friend of mine. Yeah, how did that
impact you? It impacted me greatly. You know. I was
in the middle of writing a book called Eat to Live,
a post pandemic lifestyle. If I can contribute something to
our community, it's to support this ongoing movement towards a
more healthy diet and healthy choices. I've been a vegan

(29:11):
for over twenty years and the proceeds as all of
my books and proceeds will go back into the community
and dedicated to Andre, who was my closest friend. And
the last conversation I had with him was about his diet,
and I plugged him into a doctor, and eighteen hours
later O'Neill found him. I sent O'Neill to his house.
So this broke my heart and made me even more

(29:32):
passionate about what he spread this message to our community. First,
you said, as you sent O'Neill to Andrea's house, what
what what made you do that? You know, I speak
to Andrea, like I said, multiple times a day, and myself,
Tracy Maitland, and another friend of his hadn't spoken to him.
So I called his son and asked that he spoken
to him, and all of us were concerned. So he

(29:54):
called his cousin O'Neill and sent O'Neil to his crib,
and O'Neill and Cassie went over there. Aneil went and
found his cousin and my brother had passed. You know,
I spoke to Andre too. I guess they said he
passed on a Thursday. I spoke to him that too,
and he was actually I mean, he was speaking to
me about a lot of things, but he was speaking
to me about a conversation that you him and Maxine

(30:17):
Waters had. That's good as you brought that up, because
I've been working for over thirty years on police brutality
ever since after police came out and Cop Killer, I
was the one that had to make sense of those songs.
I had to go to Congress, and I worked with
New Orleans and Detroit, Baltimore and Philly and very different places.
With the Nation of Islam. I would go to the

(30:39):
police sensitivity trainings, and those trains were good, and the
dialogue between police and community was good, but they never
really represented systematic change. And for all this time, the
one thing that was always troublesome and our police policing
system is that the prosecutors have never had the right
to prosecute police. And so when they talk about police reform,

(31:02):
and I'm excited that they have now a bill that
they just introduced, that's exciting, But when I watch the news,
we don't talk as much about that prosecution point, because
police accountability is the core of this discussion. Are you
high involved you steal an NYC politic? Not so much.
I mean you know, I'm very concerned and excited at

(31:24):
the same time about how this bill Golden See, young
people brought us to a point we wouldn't even believe
we got here. They got out in the street. They're
dedicated to change. And what we need now is to
make sure the steering committees, you mean, whoever they are,
people like you, you know, leaders of young people, get
them on a page to push for the change that

(31:45):
they really need, and not to make a choice for them,
but to present them with the options. So if young
people continue to push and they know what they're pushing for,
like that bill that the black Hawk is introduced yesterday,
then we will see some real systematic change. And it's
the beginning of something new and Justice Policing Act of
twenty twenty Rush. So I want you to do a
grounding before we get into this next line of questioning.

(32:06):
Do a grounding. Okay, now, you have you watched on
the record on Age. I have not watched it, but
I'm aware of you know, when I first heard about
this documentary, I was thrilled to know that Oprah was
involved real because I thought, and I told many people,
it was impossible for her to go forward full of
me back up, because it's something I had to say.

(32:27):
It's much more important. I'm guilty of having underwritten, supported,
made the soundtrack for Taken advantage of, and lived in
a grossly unjust society. So I know what I'm guilty of,
and I've been unconscious as a playboy. And today the
title is appropriate womanizing. And you know, back then, I

(32:51):
thought it was a game. I dated. If you remember
the eighties, it must remember Robin Givens and I had
a crush on. I had a great relationship with ray
Don Chong. I fell in love with Troy Bayer. I
dated Sherry Headley from Coming to America. I went out
with Stacy Dash. There were no black actresses that I
didn't date that they were my friends today. Also the

(33:11):
Dutch and German and French and Golden and Tanzania and
South African supermodels. I went out every night and I
looked for new girls to date, and almost all of
them are my friends today and they don't have the
experience of me being a monster that the movie makes
me to be. So I was thrilled that Oprah took
on this movie, and I said, it's absolutely no way

(33:33):
she's gonna go forward when I presented with thirty witnesses
or so who came forward after they saw their friends
and children and parishioners on television, and so I felt
very confident. She walked away. She walked away, and she
did say that the stories had inconsistencies, not one, but
all stories. All three girls who were to lead the

(33:55):
stories should not have been printed based on the information
are given and the BC New York magazine, CNN and
many people have passed on those stories. And finally Oprah
and Apple. So I'm sorry that the movie is out,
but at the same time, I'm glad they had their
moment to say what they wanted to say. I could

(34:15):
never say that someone doesn't feel victimized. I can tell
you that I don't feel that I victimize them. And
how can I say that I took nine separate, three
hour lie to tech attests. They're available to you, and
I just wanted to say that. And I don't know
what else to say except I feel terrible about the
women who may have felt victimized. I am certainly not

(34:37):
a monster or victimize er. What do you say to
your daughters, because you know I've seen your daughters defend you.
You have two lovely daughters. What do you What do
you tell your daughters at a time like this. We've
lived in a very toxic masculine society. But I tell
them also as a person who studies this eminent rise
of a divine feminine which is happening in us and
around us, as men's right inclusivity that we need for

(35:01):
women going forward is critical to the survival of the planet.
That women have to take their rightful place in leadership.
And there's roles that are more meaningful to the weekend survived?
All right? We got more with Russell Simmons. When we
come back, don't move. It's to breakfast club. Good morning morning.
Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlomagne, the guy we
are the breakfast club was still kicking him at Russell Simmons. Ye.

(35:24):
How many women have come for it at this point
and accused you of sexual less thoughts six or seven?
I noticed that when less one days or someone like
that was accused, they didn't say that a girl who
spoke poorly two was a number because he had thirty
of them. They didn't say that in a yoga class
that you are adjusting somebody looked like you might have
been wrong, but it wasn't a girl. It was another

(35:46):
girl watching. And they made that a number. When my
story came and there were twenty five white man that
was the only man of color. They spent a lot
of money digging into my past, But did they do
that pretty famous Rocks stars. I hung out with Mick
Jagger and Steven Tyler and many many lock stars. The
misunderstandings that I refer to and the insensitivity that I

(36:08):
might have exuded at that time was kind of typical
of the time. I'm a unlikely ally. I've always been
a support of women's movement, and I believe that what's
happened in Me Too is fantastic and will continue to
open more doors for women and change the relationship between
men and women too. We have a balance, you know,

(36:29):
rust when you talk about misunderstandings, because you know you're
a totally different, different person back then. When you're a
powerful man and you have women working for you in
your industry, you know if you do, you know, push
up on them, which some type of sexual advent. Sometimes
women feel like they can't say no. Do you ever
think you put a woman in that situation. Back then,

(36:49):
I didn't date the women in the office. I only
have one person who ever asked for her expenses, and
then one year later sued me. I have no sexual
misconduct of any kind in Depth Jam's whole history, except
the one who's the lead in this movie. But back
then it was pretty normal to have relationships in the office.

(37:10):
But I was never interested because again it was those
actresses I named and all the supermodels, and I was
much more interested in what was outside my office. I
had a president who was a woman. I had a
president of promotion who was a woman. I had a
president of A and R who was a woman. And
I had a president of marketing at one time. There's
a picture that I have that I prided in nineteen

(37:31):
ninety two. It was the Women of Death Chair, and
so we had all women running Depth Jam, you know,
and they were my partners and friends, and we went
to work every day together and we enjoyed a lot
of success during that time. What I really wanted healing.
I don't want anyone who feels violated to know how
deeply sorry, especially but I said about jama Met, I
told Oprah, you will find it. The three leads in

(37:55):
your movie. Are absolutely not credible, and there's no way
you're going to make this movie. But I told her then,
there's a story that broke my heart with Jane Lametz
story and when I read it and made me cry.
A week later she told me Jenny was in the movie.
I haven't seen the movie, but I understand that story
breaks my heart, and it's a story of I got

(38:16):
in the car and I was afraid, and I listened
to it, and I realized that I was perhaps insensitive,
but what I wasn't at the time was a mind reader.
You know, Russ back in the day, you was on cocaine.
He was drunk all the all on cocaine. Who the
eighties early nineties. Is there any way you could have
misconstrued these sexual experiences, or even they could have misconstrued

(38:37):
the sexual experiences. Yeah, you know, I'm not safe. Listened. Absolutely,
there's a way that some of these experiences accepted. I
was sober by nineties, so I'm gonna say that. So yes,
of course I took a lot of drugs. We were
all hot. Also, you could have been paranoid when you
got in the car. In the car do a lot,
you know, and you did exactly what he said because

(38:58):
you didn't want for fear he might turn violent. You know,
when they read that story, it breaks my heart. But like, yes,
I could have been high and insensitive and unconsciously talous,
but I never ever felt that I hurt anyone. And
I even then with all the drugs, I didn't have
a violent vote in my body. The misconstrued relationships, I believe,

(39:21):
is probably something that not only should be exploring my case,
but we should understand that going forward, this new there's
a new sensitivity that men should gain. And you know,
and I'm thirty years ago it was different. Do you
feel like it's tarnished your legacy at all? You know,
I'm less concerned my legacy to day than I am

(39:41):
concerned with what I can do going forward to health
the community. I feel like, what's happening now my voice
has been muted to some degree, and this is exactly
the kind of place where my voice is useful, at
least in my own ego. I believe I should be useful. Yeah,
whether it's the health in the community that I talk
about and the diet I want to continue to promote.

(40:03):
I believe in the equality of women and black people.
And I've always fought for those two things. And I
was there fighting for equal pay for women twenty five
years ago, and I've spoke at the Women's March, and
I believe in the next steps that can take it
to be inclusive. You know one thing about the divine
masculine and the divine feminine, the divine masculine when not

(40:27):
even the divine masculine, the masculine is never aware of
our toxic behavior. The divine masculine is a way of
the toxic masculinity, but when we're in that toxic state,
we're not aware. So can you understand why the women
who spoke out against you probably felt like they needed to? Well,
I can understand why some of them did. I do
absolutely understand that all the relationships I've had, that some

(40:51):
gone wrong, and that some women feel victimized, and I
certainly believe them in them cases. What would you say
to these women if they were funny? Now? What would
you say to them? If anything? I would say, I
love you, And I know that in some cases hurt people,
hurt people. I don't want to re victimize or I
don't think we should. I really don't believe we should
be relitigating thirty year old stories that have never been told.

(41:13):
Celebrities have big voices. Something happens to a celebrity, everyone
relates to it, and so as part of further a
great agenda, there may be some collateral damage. I wouldn't
say this to those women. What I would say those
women in cases where like a Jane Met, I'm so sorry.
I never knew you felt this way. I spoke to
you twenty times after I had dinner with Drew Dixon,

(41:35):
a week after she settled her her suit and asked
for her expenses. I didn't know you felt this way.
So some of these people who I saw over the years,
so many many times, who never expressed this to me,
it breaks my heart to hear their stories. What about
what about people who say you left for BALI to
avoid criminal charges. There's no I don't have any civil

(41:56):
or criminal charges. I'm back and forth to La. I
was in La in December. In November and in New
York and December I went to took my kids away.
I came back. I spent the first two weeks in January.
M here now stuck in the borders are opening the
next few days and I'm back in forth fifteen times.

(42:17):
So that's just not true. You know, that's interesting because
I see a lot of people going in on the
women and saying that they're liars, they're doing this for money.
So there is no civil case or a criminal case pending.
There was there's a civil case that thirty one years ago.
I don't want to talk about her history or what
she said. A woman who I've never met once. Ten

(42:38):
million dollars it'll be I mean, I'm sure. So that's
a civil case, but that's it, and that'll the judge
will throw that out two years that to a limitation,
So it no, I don't I didn't escape anything. I
came to Bali because my school, Tantis, was having a
teacher training and I was I had I was gonna
go either to India to an ashram or to Bali
to get out of the media. And I came back

(43:00):
home and I went back and back home back, and
fourth or fifth time I got here, I started to
build a house. As a woman. I know, it's really
difficult for women to speak up when they feel like
something's happened, especially when it involves a celebrity, just because
of the level of people who are going to say, oh,
she's lying. She wants attention, and even just the threat
of not even being able to work in this industry anymore.

(43:23):
So what do you think is the motivation for these
women to come forward and make these accuses. I don't
think it's for me to say the motivation. There's a
lot of psychological profiles and their studies, and a lot
of people want relevance. And I'm not suggesting that people

(43:46):
want to be famous or want money. But you can
make that some shit if you like that. Some people
may want to be famous and even infamous as m
and I don't want to. You know, you can what
I'd like for you to do, maybe, if you're interested,
it's read some of the stories written by the black

(44:06):
investigative journalists that and then call the witnesses yourselves, called
their parents. All right, well, don't move. We got more
with Russell Simmons when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, d j Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne, the gay
we are the Breakfast Club. Were still kicking him at
Russell Simmons, Charlemagne, did Oprah Gail reach out to you?
Reach out to you? I don't want to say too

(44:28):
much about Oprah, but I will say that the minute
I knew that she was involved in the documentary, I
felt that she was my savior. She gonna walk away
and tell the world why, because she was interested in
the truth. She called of the thirty witnesses, none of
whom appear in the movie, thirty witnesses that I gave
to the producers. They want to interview me, but they
didn't want to interview the thirty witnesses. You know, it's interesting.

(44:50):
It is a Yogi thing because I haven't heard you
call these women a liar. I don't want to promote
anything negative, and I don't want to get in the
mud with the accusers. The only reason I told, the
only reason I gave them thirty witnesses to get the
three leads in the movie, it's because I have daughters.
The only reason I took nine line of textive Texas.
I took those tests and didn't give them anybody. I

(45:11):
did those for my daughters. So whatever I did unintentionally,
I believe the women that I believed me. In some cases,
I believe Jane Lament, That's who I believe. She said
she thought I might turn violent. She said she was
fearful and did what I said. I didn't know, and
I never heard from her that this is how she felt.

(45:31):
And when I read the story, it brought me to tears.
So so I'm getting the feeling that you know you
were a person because you weren't a rapist. Oh the
horrible person, I mean, not horrible, and we didn't know
any better. I'll just tell you, I was just watching Boomerang,
and this is honest. I just watched over. You know,
I went out. I had more fossoms than most guys
had one girl. If I had a nickel f every

(45:51):
girl who didn't get what they deserved out of our relationships,
I'll be Richard and Puffy or something. But so I
disappointed a lot of people, and I heard some people, well,
I'm not a rapist and I'm not violent. I've never
been violent. I've never heard this characterization of me as
this monster. So hearing it at sixty it broke it

(46:12):
broke my heart. It's one of the most traumatizing experiences,
maybe the most traumatizing experience of my life. And I
deeply regret for those women who feel victimized. And I
don't know how else I can do, but just maybe
try to make it right. I'll be part of the
shift in consciousness that will that will be more inclusive.
But we do want to ask about that when it
comes to hip hop, because you know hip hop. You know,

(46:34):
how does hip hop come to a reckoning about the
way we did used to treat women because it was toxic,
you know, the music in the culture, it was rape culture.
It was not just did, but it was worse. It
was way worse though, but it's still pretty bad and bad,
but really way way worth. Back then, we talked to
women violently pouring drinks on them, like like it's a

(46:54):
lie to act like hip hop wasn't that way, So
how do we deal with no, no, no, we were listen.
But but thousands of years I you know, I don't
want us to make this about what black people did.
When I hung out with the rock stars and I
saw him, Yeah, and they got stories on stories on story,
nobody investigating that. I'm not I'm not asking anybody to
relitigate their lives either. But these women who wrote these stories,

(47:19):
who grew up you know, perhaps even almost my age,
they didn't rock stars were not so good. White man
that's why it was all white men and me. They
called everybody else. And Williams told me I did her
radio show yesterday. She told me that she got four
or five calls and people would say things like, if
you just tell your story to help your sisters. I

(47:40):
produced Just Called My Name in nineteen eighty four, the record,
and I produced I Need Your Love and other stuff
with Alice, and over the years, and she's told me
how many times she got called. Everybody I know's gotten called.
So I told a woman because I wrote my life
story too, I didn't put it out, and there's a
chapter called the Awakening right and what I've learned in
this experience. And I was telling a publisher about my

(48:01):
history and how I felt somewhat like a victim, and
then I thought, you know, I don't like saying that
because they have mixed feelings about it. She said, women
have been sitting on it for thousands of years. Just
sit on it. And I do want to say, though,
I can never judge how somebody would treat somebody else
just because of how they treated me, because I know
there's people who have done things to other people. Just

(48:22):
because they treated me well doesn't mean that they didn't
do something else. So I don't like to categorize, well,
this didn't I didn't do this to this person, So
how could I have done that? You know? And I
certainly I'm not saying that. I'm telling you that what
I mentioned all the famous or all the women I've
did over the years, and I mentioned what they think
about me. They don't think I'm tapeful of being a monster.

(48:43):
And I just say that because it is. It does
matter that you've had so many compromisations, and character witness
matter a little bit. But the thirty witnesses I gave
were not character witness. They were there at every state
and they heard different stories over these thirty or forty years,
so they've heard it differently. Yeah, I've got three more
questions because there's been women with famous voices who said

(49:05):
things like Russell has said inappropriate things to me, like
a man to Sale said, Russell said inappropriate things to me.
I've heard, you know, other women say that you said
inappropriate things to them. Look, I'm a deaf comed ye man,
I got a dirty mouth, and I've been inappropriate my
whole life. I've been inappropriate and times unconsciously callous, never
intentionally callous. Ever. I've never been violent. I've never been

(49:28):
a rapist, So I've been a lot of things, but
I certainly never ever intended to hurt anyone. And I
don't believe that the net effect of might might work
with the judge as hurtful. But there are people who
could have misconstrued and then they could then think that.
But whether a camera in the room, no one would

(49:48):
say that I was intentionally hurtful. Okay, And I want
you to answer these two more questions, because I don't
know if if I got to answer them. America, how
do we deal with the sheb behavior that we used
to display as men? Because I feel like the same
way white people gotta attone for racism men, we got
to atone for all, boll how do we do that?

(50:09):
I think that we should be aware as we are
more now. I don't not only because we're threatened men
in the Hollywood afraid to come out of the office.
They don't know what's going to happen and what they did,
what they might get accused of. That's one thing, and
that's that's good because it's a wake up call. But
the bridge building and the shift in consciousness, and how
do we hire women, how do we empower women? What
roles can be fine for them that they really suit

(50:33):
and would make us in our companies better. And I
want to support the growth of women in industry, and
I want to support the growth of women in gentlemen
and include women, include women in the conversation. When you
want to say what can we do for women? Let
them also let you know what it can be done
for us to feel more empowered and for us to
be able to express ourselves in the environment and have equality.

(50:55):
And you can do that financially too, with equal pay
for women for the same jobs. And then do you
feel like a lot of people are pointing fingers and
not necessarily because you know, you talk about all the
things that you've done in your in your career, you know,
go to Congress, you hire all these women. Do you
feel like people are losing sight of all the things
that you did do because of what's you know? Listen,

(51:17):
I told myself when I couldn't make sense of this,
and in my meditation I realized it was a commic
effect for having been when she died, for having been
a womanizer. So I don't really face heavy oh, I
lost all my five charities. I lost so many executives.
Someone still on the payroll. But I had to lose

(51:37):
all my companies and all my charities. I lost my
company it was all based on advertising, and lost thirty
million bucks. I don't have a lot of money. I
don't need money. I'm a boguing there and God's got
me and I will rebuild. It's my final question. Man
Ecard totally. Echard totally said life will give you whatever
experience is most helpful for the evolution of your consciousness.

(51:59):
How do you this is the experience you need because
this is the experience you are having at the moment.
With that said, how is your consciousness elevated because of
everything you've been going through? Everything? I feel like God
has given me a chance to speed up my evolution.
I feel like I'm with God wants me, and I
feel like I can be useful. And I read that book.

(52:22):
It was the first time I've truly understood yoga, this
idea of awareness and presence. After reading all the yoga
suitors and scriptures, I read that book The Power of Now,
and he really helped me quite a bit to intellectualize
at least so to understand what we all do everything for.
So I'm deeply appreciative of that book. I don't know

(52:43):
if you know I gave over that book. No one
had ever heard of it. I read that book. It
had changed my life. Thank you, man. We appreciate you
so much. Always a pleasure talking to you on and
offir Man God, lets you thank you so much for
having me on. And thank you Angela right, thank you Simmons.

(53:10):
Is the rule of report with Angela Yee on the
Breakfast Club. Yes, So, James Dolan, as you know, this
has been an ongoing thing as people feel like he
should have made a statement, and allegedly some of the
New York Knicks players and people that work at the
franchise are very upset that there's been no statement. Well, originally,
James Dolan sent out an email to employees explaining that

(53:32):
we are not any more qualified than anyone else to
offer our opinion on social matters, and that email was
elaked publicly, and then he had to put out a
second email where he condemned racism and stronger terms. But
again this was not even anything that was released publicly. Well,
now the Instagram account does have a statement and that
statement is every one of us has a role to

(53:53):
play in creating a just and equal society where there
is no racism, bigotry, violence or hate. We starred for
all who acts for positive change. Somebody tell the Knicks
just posted black box show, just post the black box. Yeah,
and so that was that. So Jesus wrote, defund the Knicks,

(54:14):
but bomb for Jesus's disappointing. Well, according to Jalen and Jacobe,
they've been making more. The value of the Knicks have
gone up every single year. So yeah, people still go
to the games. I don't know why, but yeah, now
he needs still go to the games. Yeah, I'm talking
about the funded. As far as plays ross the trash, yeah,

(54:37):
nobody wants to play for the Knicks us. All right, now,
the crust Fits CEO has resigned. We told you about
all the backlash that CEO, Greg Glassman actually had received,
and he's also the founder. Well, he has officially stepped
down as head of the company. And that's for a
couple of different things. You know, there were some comments
that he made in a company's zoom call. He said,
we're not mourning for George Floyd. And in addition to

(54:59):
that he he had a very rude joke that he
made on social media where you know he was just
mocking the death of George Floyd. Well, now he has
stepped down and he'll be replaced by Dave cash or.
A lot of people have disassociated themselves from the company.
Reboxe were ties with CrossFit right after Glassman posted that

(55:19):
tweet that was very offensive to people. And in addition,
they said he also sent out derogatory and offensive emails
to Jim owner Alyssa Roy's. So he's gone all right.
Damian Lillard has also put out a powerful spoken word.
It's called Blacklist, and this is honoring George Floyd and
other police brutality victims. Here's a portion of that. I

(55:42):
feel at tension rising nineteen fifty, how we divided, and
I ain't even tripping on how the season decided. Racism
pandemic is years ahead of the virus. Really mean it,
but they're gonna try to play us as tyrants. Look,
Ali wasn't the greatest just because his hands worked front
line for us people. This was a fans work. Before
he let the black people down, He let the fans hurt.

(56:03):
So if the stars is a line that me and
he can work. Don't need to prove who are always
been doing guy's work, even before I was in a
Bentley like Farnsworth. Make me sick to my stomach to
see these moms hurt. Tommy Smith Fish in the air.
This is what our bomb worth, Shanta. Damian Lillard. Yes,
the whole track Blacklist is nearly three minutes and it's

(56:25):
on his SoundCloud. So that was him, a portion of
him just expressing everything. And I encourage everybody to go
listen to that. You know, he goes by Dame Dollar.
He's an artist. Damian Lillard is really nice. He's a
don't rap basketball and Dame Dollar is really good at
rap as well. Yes, it is all right, be samone. Now.

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Some people have some things to say about comments that
she made on Nick Cannon Show where she talks about
her dating life and what her deal breakers are in
a relationship. Here's what she had to say, older, older,
He can't have nine to five? What you don't want
to have? An honest job? He could be a hustling entrepreneurs.

(57:06):
So you want him to be a you want CEO status? Yes, okay,
he can't. He can't. He can't clock in and clock, y'all.
Damn you date entrepreneurs, all right? So she doesn't want
to date somebody with a nine to five. Here's what
else she has to say. It in the cannon everything.
I have my dream career. I manifested it. I'm trying
to manifest the husband. Ain't that wrong with a nine

(57:28):
to five? I get it? They work hard. I used
to have a mind to five. Nothing is wrong, nothing
is hell. I don't need an entrepreneur. I need somebody
that understands fine mindset. Somebody that has the same lifestyle.
Hasn't do with money. Everything to do with lifestyle. But
I'm in the bed at three am checking emails. What
you're doing, babe? Working? What she's only working? Hey? Love you?
You want to have on a flight tomorrow? I have
a meeting and out of town. You want to go?

(57:48):
You gotta do you understand my life? So people definitely
reacted to this on social media. What do you think
about it? I mean, I don't understand it. I don't
get it. There's nothing wrong with somebody help working in
nine to five. But everything is in preference. If that's
what she prefers, that's what she prefers. I don't see
any I don't see anything wrong when anybody happen to
nine to five and working, So I mean I would
be upset. I would be upset if I wanted to

(58:11):
date be someone and I was furloughed or fired from
my nine all right, that would make me feel away.
I don't understand why she nine to five shaming people?
What's wrong with having a job? Yeah, I don't know.
And a lot of times people do have a nine
to five and make way more money than entrepreneurs do
or can be even you know, some entrepreneurs. Just because

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you're an entrepreneur doesn't mean that you're a successful or
be super motivated either. Correct. Anybody calls themselves an entrepreneur nowadays,
and that's our preference. And she's entitled or a preference.
But she just don't understand. What's the problem with somebody
having to nine and the five job? I don't I
don't understand. Nine to five jobs make great money and
even if they even if they don't make great money,

(58:52):
if you're making a living, be happy, like That's what
I would you given nine to five and you're an entrepreneur,
then does that count? You can you can do both
you should. You should be doing both. There's one hundred
and sixty eight dollars in a week, so once you
do your nine to five, you should be putting some
money towards, you know, whatever your entrepreneur dreams are. But
I just I just don't see the point of shaming
somebody with a nine to five, like there's nothing wrong

(59:13):
with a nine to five job. Jobs are good people,
you know how. You know they're good because it's forty
million people right now, forty plus million people who don't
have one, and they would gladly take one of those
nine to five jobs on they goddamn table. I don't
know what you wouldn't cut somebody in your daddy, huh?
She talking about Dash just came out the job as

(59:36):
a job smooth. To everybody out there who has a
job right now, you are blessed, strust me. It's forty
plus million people out there who wish they had a job.
Well maybe they don't because that unemployment is booming the
people that can get it. It's forty focusing it. Those
people can't get the unemployment, and these people who have
ninety fives that are actually doing that because they're hustling
to actually start their own business too. You know, in

(59:57):
order to own a chick Fili you have to work there,
absolutely and wrong within the nine of five nothing nothing
wrong the nine all right, well I Mandela ye, and
that's your room report. All right, Seanloma? Who are you
giving that donkey too? You know we need uh the
New York what's this title? New York Police Union President
Michael mere To come to the front of the congregation.
We like to have a world with him. All right,
we'll get into that next. Keep it locked as the

(01:00:18):
breakfast club. Good morning, Charlo may say that game don't
get the shape man, you are talky today does not discriminate.
I might not have the song of today, but I
got to donkey that. So if you ever feel I
need to be a donkey man, hit it with the
practice club bitches. They just don't give today today. Donkey

(01:00:42):
today for Wednesday, June tenth, goes to New York Police
Union President Michael Mara. Now we all know that people's
worldview is based off their own personal experiences. We all
see things differently, even if we're looking at the same thing.
We all feel things differently, even if we are experiencing
the same thing. We all hear and comprehend things differently,

(01:01:02):
even if we are listening to the same thing. That's
just the world we live in. I try to be
tolerant of people's worldview. No, tylerant isn't the right word.
I try to be indifferent about people's worldview. I scrive
keyword scribe, because I definitely don't always get that right.
I scrive to be indifferent of people's worldview because unless
someone's worldview is actually dangerous to my and others existence,

(01:01:27):
I don't feel they need to challenge it. That's just
how they feel, That's just how they see things. They allies.
The problem with a lot of folks, though, you know,
worldviews are dangerous. A lot of folks worldview actually cause
his harm and danger to others. And that's exactly where
we all with Michael Mara. Now, of course, you know
what's been protest in New York City in regards for
George Floyd. NYPD has a long history of police brutality

(01:01:47):
and police killings. Sean Bell I'm gonna do Deallo Ragana
just to name a few. You got cops like Francisco Garcia.
Do you all remember him? He kind of went under
the rug right, Remember he tasted and punch that young man.
A few weeks back. He's been named in seven lawsuits
settled by a New York City police for two hundred
and ten thousand dollars. Literally before the protests, we were
complaining about the NYPD and how they were going through

(01:02:08):
black and brown neighborhoods, putting their hands on people who
weren't social distancing, but treating white folks with the utmost respect.
Since then, anybody with an Instagram or Facebook can see
videos of police being violent towards protesters. Okay, it didn't stop,
all right, It actually got worse. We've seen them sheve protesters.
We've seen them pepper spray piece for protesters. We've seen
them beaten delivery guys with Night six. We've seen them

(01:02:31):
drive a police vehicle into a crowd of protesters in Brooklyn. Okay,
I haven't heard any officer apologize I say that was wrong,
not saying it hasn't happened. I just haven't heard it publicly. Okay,
I haven't seen it. Hell Man de Blasio defended it.
He said, and I quote, if a police officers in
that situation, they have to get out of that situation.

(01:02:52):
End quote. The Blasio sounds like Marshawn Lynch saying he
got to run through a mother Effa's face. Okay, if
you gotta run through a mother's face, run through that face,
all right. When you hear the man say that, when
you hear the celebrity in chief, Donald J. Trump say
things like he said yesterday, the seventy five year old
man who got pushed to the ground, skull cracked open,
was a setup for Mantifa. When you hear stuff like that,

(01:03:12):
you realize how deep the corruption goes in these police departments,
and you realize why nothing ever changes. If the man
don't care, if the celebrity in chief, the president don't care,
why would these cops ever care? And not being held
accountable because the people in charge don't hold them accountable. Now,
would you like to hear with New York Police Union
president Michael Mara said yesterday, let's hear it, stop treating

(01:03:35):
us like animals and thugs and start treating us with
some respect. We've been left out of the conversation, We've
been philified. It's disgusting trying to make us a barrass
of our profession. Three hundred and seventy five million interactions,
overwhelmingly positively. Nobody talks about all the police officers that

(01:03:57):
were killed in the last week in the United States
of America, and there were a number of them. We
don't condone Minneapolis. We roundly we're checked what he did
as disgusting. It's not what we do, it's how a
police officers do. All legislators abandoned us. The press is
vilifying us. Well, you know what, guy, I'll proud to

(01:04:19):
be a cop, and I'm gonna continue to be proud
to be a cop until the day I retire. O'Mara said.
Police officers have been left out of the discussion. No,
you guys are the discussion, all right. This is actually
all about you and the way you treat citizens of
this country. In fact, if police weren't out here killing
on black and brown folks, you know, killing it on

(01:04:39):
white folks, if they weren't out here pushing seventy five
year old into the ground and slamming women on their
faces and mall parking lots, then we wouldn't be here. Okay, Mike,
have you seen the same videos I've seen. I'm starting
to think there really is a whole different Instagram and
Twitter I don't have access to. Because you want people
to stop treating cops like animals and thugs when the
reality is y'all the ones acting like the animals and thugs.

(01:05:01):
You want people to start treating cops with some respect. Well,
respect is a two way street. If you want to
get it, you've got to give it. Okay, I believe
in that quote, but not in regard to the the police,
because you can listen to the police, be courteous to
the police, be respectful to the police, and cops will
still be the holes of an ass. I had to
say it like that because you can't say those on

(01:05:22):
the radio for some reason. But my point is, Mike o'mera,
you said you don't condone what happened in Minneapolis with
George Floyd, But how do you feel about what happens
right here in New York? How do you feel about
the NYPD? We don't have to leave this city. Do
you think cops driving a police suv into a crowd
of protesters? Is that the respect you're talking about is
the way Francisco Garcia handles people when he tastes them

(01:05:45):
and punches them. Is that the respect you want from us.
I mean, we are only giving back what we are receiving.
And Mike says three hundred and seventy five million interactions
between officers in the public and all of them were peaceful,
a majority and the peaceful. I don't remember how he
said it, but I just want to know, why is
there three hundred and seventy five million interactions? And who

(01:06:06):
keeps counting that kind of stuff? Why is there more
interactions with officers in the public then there is actual
people in America. I know for a fact the public
isn't coming up to the cops, you know, asking them
what they're smoking. You know. I know the public isn't
pulling over cops for any reason, you know, So why
is it so many interactions? Anyway, the moral of the

(01:06:26):
story is this, we don't care. We don't care. We
don't care. Okay, y'all gonna stop killing people and beating
people up for no reason. We are going to continue
to push for legislation like the Justice and Policing Act
of twenty twenty that bands the type of chokehold that
killed George Floyd, that bands no knock warrants and drug cases,
or the likelihood of situations like the ones that killed

(01:06:48):
Brianna Taylor don't happen New York past the Eric Garner
Anti Chokehold Act, making it a felony that in j'all
killed using a chokehold like the one that killed Eric Garner.
We are going to continue to push for those types
of things. And if that is what you call treating
cops like thugs and animals, if that's what you call
treating cops with no respect, then so be it. Okay.

(01:07:09):
If you can live with cops like Francisco Garcia, if
you can live with cops driving trucks through crowds and
peaceful protesters, then we the people can live with you
being mad simply because finally, for the first time ever
that I can remember, cops are being held accountable for
their bs. Please let Remy Mark give New York Police

(01:07:31):
Union president Michael Mara the biggest he haw he ha
he ha, You stupid mother? Are you dumb? All right? Well,
thank you for that donkey today, Charlet Maine. Now when
we come back, yesterday, Angelie and Angie Martinez got a
chance to speak with Brianna Taylor's mom to meet a palmer,
So they're gonna talk to her when we come back,

(01:07:53):
so don't move. Very serious, very powerful. It's the Breakfast Club,
Go Morning, the Breakfast Club. Wanting everybody is DJ Envy,
Angela Ye, Charlomagne Naga. We all the Breakfast Club now.
Angela Ye and Angie Martinez got a chance to speak
with Brianna Taylor's mom to meet Ka Palmer yesterday. Yes,

(01:08:15):
and it was really important and powerful that we do
something like that because Brianna Taylor, everybody's been saying her name.
Her twenty seventh birthday would have been on Friday, but
a lot of people don't know the details of how
she was killed by police officers and just what Brianna
Taylor's mom, to Mika Palmer, was dealing with after her
daughter was murdered by the police. So let's get into

(01:08:35):
the interview now. One of the reasons I really wanted
Angela and I to do this together is because I
was really you know, and I really think about it
until Landa and everyone to Mika Mallory who were on
the call shared with us that sometimes getting justice for
women seems harder to get people's attention and get people
organized and get people riled up, and that really disturbed me,
and we were on a group full of incredible women.

(01:08:58):
Each person on that zoom vowed to be committed to
getting Brianna's story out there and to getting people to
understand that something actually can be done and needs to
be done. And Angela and I were just part of
a large group of women who also made that commitment,
and we thought that together that we could use both
of our platforms to help get Brihanna's story out and

(01:09:18):
the hashtagers has been trending, and then everybody knows what happened.
But I would love to hear from you to Maka,
exactly what happened to your daughter. She was killed by
Louibo Metro Police Department Friday, Marched the thirteenth. They went
into her home for a warrant or something or another,

(01:09:39):
did not announce themselves, scared the crap out of her
and her boyfriend, who apparently let off a shot, and
then they proceeded to shoot twenty something times into their
home and shot her eight times. Okay, so the reason
why they went into Brianna's home was they said they

(01:10:01):
were looking for somebody who didn't even live at that address,
who was allegedly selling drugs out of the house, and
that person had already been in custody right prior to
them even entering the home. Exactly. We hear conflicting stories
about whether he actually lived there at some point where
he used to live there. You actually told us that
that's not true at all. Yeah, he's never lived there,

(01:10:24):
and they had what was called a no knock warrant.
So can you break down what is a no knock warrant?
Because this was my first time hearing about this too.
I didn't know you could just barge into somebody's house,
break down the door, and not even announce yourselves. And
there are some discrepancies on whether or not the police
announced that they were there, announced that they had a warrant,
or if they just broke in, because apparently both Brianna

(01:10:45):
and her boyfriend Kenneth Walker, thought that somebody was breaking
into their home, and he was a licensed gun owner
and did fire at the police because he thought that
somebody was breaking in correct, correct, he fired at the police.
He also called the police because he did not know
that these were police officers coming into the home. So apparently,

(01:11:05):
like you said, this no knock there, they can come there,
bust down the door and just come in. They hit
the door with a battering round several times. Brianna and
Kenny both were screaming, who is it? Who's at the door?
They never announced themselves, but when they first released their
story they said that they announced themselves. But yeah, Kenny,

(01:11:29):
several neighbors, no one hurted them, announced themselves, right. And
so what was even more shocking to me was that
Kenneth was actually charged with shooting a police offer with
attempt Was it attempted murder that he was charged with
at first? Yes, ma'am. I just want to set the
scene because hearing the story from you personally really changed
some of the perspective I had. Well, not that I

(01:11:50):
had any other perspective except that justice should be done
for Brianna, but it just really I really understood the
moment and how it happened that this young girl, seeming
the amazing girl who had a career and helped to
help people. Clearly she cared about people. She was a
healthcare provider, she was an EMT worker, was home minding

(01:12:10):
her business and her own apartment, and somebody bust into
her house. And from what I'm understanding, even though the
police say that they announced themselves. This is a small apartment, correct,
this is a compenx where if there was police activity,
a neighbor, somebody in the hallway. I mean, is it
the type of apartment where you hear your neighbors like, Yeah,

(01:12:32):
there's not a hallway. Each person has their own door,
but it's a very small square there that you go
in to get into these eight of there's eight apartments
in each building. So yeah, you absolutely were here somebody
out there. So any other neighbors would tell you she's
pretty quiet. They never really ever heard or you know,
they saw her coming and going for going to work

(01:12:54):
or you know, coming and going with her. Sit my
other daughter, which is her little sister, never really made
a lot of noise. So to hear all of this
stuff going on would alarm people. Have these police officer
has been charged with anything yet now? So they haven't
been charged, they only they haven't even been fired. No,

(01:13:14):
they're on administrative leaves, so they're still being paid by
the police department. And what shocking is this happened Marched thirteen. Yes, Yeah,
one of the saddest things that I learned from you
to Maka on the phone yesterday and I heard you
say also at one of the protests, was that you
have felt alone for quite a while, like people are
stepping up now and really demanding justice and really inspired

(01:13:35):
by some of the other things that are happening in
this country that people are like, Okay, let let's focus
on Brianna now. But you've been fighting this fight since
the day you lost your daughter, absolutely and when it
sucked alone because you know, you hear these different stories
all the time. The police go in, it's a rate
going bad, people are shooting, so you think these people

(01:13:57):
were doing selling drugs and shot at the police, so
people kind of moved on when in fact that wasn't
the case. That are Hi. We have more with Tamika Palma,
which is Brianna Taylor's mom, and Angie Martinez and Ye.
When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning.
Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charloween the guy. We
all the Breakfast Club now if you just joined us,

(01:14:18):
Angie Martinez and Angela Ye had a chance to speak
with Tamika Palma yesterday. That's Brianna Taylor's mom. So let's
get back into part two of the interview. Is the
breakfast club. Good morning. Where were you when you found out? Like?
Who called you? How did you even know something was happening?
Kenny called me her boyfriend. I was home in bed.
Kenny called me and said that somebody kicked in the

(01:14:39):
door and he thinks Brianna's shot and I and I'm like,
what do you mean you think she shot? Where is he?
He said he couldn't see like he had like he
was yelling her name and like screaming for it. But
so of course I jump up and we kind of
we get disconnected. I dropped the phone and whatnot. But

(01:15:00):
so I get dressed in our head over there. But
in the middle of me heading over there, I'm calling
King's phone. It's not answering. So I'm calling Brianna's phone
and she's not answering. And so when I get to
her street, it's lined with police. There's an officer at
the end of the road who I tell that I
need to get through. There's something's going on with my daughter.

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She tells me that I needed to get to the hospital.
That two ambulance had been through. One took an officer
and the other took the girl whoever was hurt. And
when I get to the hospital, I'll tell them why
they're there. So they checked. She comes back and said, well,
she's not here, and I said, well, I don't know,
maybe I got here before her. And so I sat

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there for about two hours and the lady comes out
and says, well, ma'am, there's no recollection of this person
even being on the way. So I knew that I
needed to get back to the apartment. They sent you
to the hospital knowing that she was not at the hospital. Yeah,
and she was still the apartment, yes, ma'am. Yeah. What

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did they say? Did they give you, like, why did
they say it's either haything? Well, at that point they didn't.
They didn't. No one knew what was quite going on.
But once I got back, um, I was able to
get through a little more. So I was closer to
the apartment and there was some more officers kind of
standing there hanging around. So I told them who I

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was and that I needed to get into the apartment
and see what was going on with my daughter. So
they told me to hang tight, that a detective would
come over and talk to me, and so I we
stood out there about two hours before the detective came over.
So when he comes over again, we introductions who I am,
who he is, and so he asked me if I

(01:16:49):
knew of anybody who would want to hurt Rihanna or
Kitty and um, so of course I say no, you know,
of course not like, why would they ask you that
when they knew who did that to her? Well? I
at this point they still hadn't told me and who
did this and what happened? So he yeah, So I asked,

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where's Kenny, you know, like, well, I need to talk
to Kenny. And so he told me to hang tight.
So he come back about another hour and a half
two hours later, and he asked, had Brianna and Kenny
been having any problems? And I'm like, are you no?
Are you insinuating Kenny did something to Brianna because Kenny
would never hurt her? And so at this point, I'm screaming,

(01:17:36):
where's Kenny. I need to talk to Kenny. So he says, well,
Kenny's at one of our officers, trying to help us
piece together what happened here tonight. I asked about the
officer being shot. I said, well, why was there? They said,
an officervice shot? He said, well, he was here responding
to a call, and I said a call for what?

(01:17:57):
He said, well, there were some officers. Was there to
serve a narcotics warrant And I said for who, because
Brianna and Kenny ain't got ain't selling no nicartis. And
he said he wasn't for sure, he hadn't seen the warrant.
And I said, well, I want to see the warrant
and he said, well, that he didn't know where it was,
that they hadn't seen it, that it could have gotten

(01:18:21):
lost in the shuffle of things. So he tells us
to wait again. So it was probably about eleven am
when he comes back over and tells us it'll be
a little bit longer, that'll be wrapping up and that
we'll be able to get into the house. And I say, well,
why won't you tell me where Brianna is. I need
to see Brianna. And he says, well, well, she's still

(01:18:45):
in the apartment. Wow, I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I
was so sorry that we have to make you tell
the story, and even that it's important that people know
the details of what it is that she went through
the cover ups And I can't even imagine how that

(01:19:05):
must feel to know that they gave you the runaround
like that at that time, and the only thing you
want to know is where is my daughter exactly? And
so when he says she's in the apartment, I knew
what that meant at that time, so I said, but
I want to see her. I need to see her.

(01:19:26):
I need to know that it's her. And he said, well,
we've identified her through paperwork. And I said, well, how
do you know it's her because there's two women that
live in that apartment. And he said, are you sure?
And I said, yes, I'm sure because my other daughter
lives in that apartment. But at the time I knew

(01:19:46):
she was at home, but I wanted to see Britanna.
He said that I still couldn't see her, that it
would be up to the corner. So the corner finally
arrives and it was about one thirty PM when the
corner comes out and says, you know, um, that he
wouldn't I wouldn't be allowed to see her, and that

(01:20:08):
they've already identified her. And so they kind of just
some other people like snooker away in this vand why
the corner was talking to us. Has it any point
anyone apologize to you? No has it? I'm sorry? What

(01:20:34):
were gonna says? Let's give her a moment? Okay, Okay, No,
we really do appreciate you for your strength and being
able to relay this story. I know you've told it
countless times, and we just want people to hear your
story and we want some action to be taken. What
does justice look like for you? Now? Uh? These officers

(01:20:54):
being fired and the rest that if anybody else would
have done if they be arrested. So they obtained a
warne under a line. They told several stories and so
they should be arrested. I mean they lie. They there
was no reason for them to be there. And the
person you you want it so you proclaimed to want

(01:21:16):
it was in custody. So to go in there at
one in the morning and scare her and kill her?
So what can we do now? Right? What do we
do now? How do we help? I know the system
is one conversation, but how do we help to meet
get justice from her daughter? Right now? As a community?
What can we do? Contact the mayor's office to fire

(01:21:37):
the office to how the officers involved, fire best Officer
Brett Hankinson, Mouse mouse cosgrowth and Jomattically they need to
be terminated from their positions. Daniel Cameron, the Kentucky Attorney General,
needs to charge the officers and prosecute them aggressively. And
then we also have this Thursday, Metro Council will be

(01:22:00):
voting on Brianna's law and it's written down it's too significantly.
They meet the use of no knock warrants to only
the most agree justus of offensives like kidnapping, murder, human trafficking.
But there is discussion to make that a complete ban
on no knock warrants, and we do think that that
is important. So those are three things right off the

(01:22:21):
bat is band no knock warrants, terminate the officers in George,
and aggressively prosecute y'all. Wow, Well, it took a lot
of strength for it to Mika Palmer to even be
able to tell this story and have to relive those
events again. But the full interview is on the Breakfast
Club YouTube page. Angie Martinez will also be airing the
interview during her show later on today. And again, those

(01:22:43):
officers names are Sergeant Jonathan matting Lee, Officer Brett Hankinson,
and Officer Miles class Groves. So we do want to
make sure that at least for the sake of the family,
for Brianna till his friends, and just in general, you
want to make sure that there is some justice here.
You can again go look and see the full interview
on the Breakfast Club YouTube page. All right, and when

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we come back, we got rumors on the way, so
don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Go morning, the Breakfast Club. Listen,
it's just oh Gosport got Angel into its reports Club. Well,
first of all, y'all know, I love me some Lizzo,
and Lizzo came through with a great message because she

(01:23:27):
has been working out and she posts her work out
all the time, and here's what she had to say. So,
I've been working out consistently for the last five years,
So I'm not working out to have your ideal body type.
I'm working out to have my ideal body type. And
you know what type. That is none of your business
because I am beautiful, and worry about your own goddamn body.

(01:23:50):
Because health is not just determined on what you look
like on the outside. Health is also what happens on
the inside. And a lot of y'all need to do
a cleans for your insides. Yes, I love it is
very important investing your mental wealth. It's clear lizlew in
shape though. I mean you could tell when she dances
on stage. Yeah, her performances be amazing. So for you,

(01:24:15):
for you to be for you to be that big
and be able to move like that, you definitely in shape.
All right. Now, Russell Westbrook is going to be executive
producing Terror and Tulsa. It's a docu series for blackfin
and that is to mark the upcoming one hundredth anniversary
of the infamous Tulsa race massacre. And so that should
be really interesting to watch. And as you know, we've

(01:24:35):
talked about this previously. Dream Hampton is also going to
be directing Black Wall Street. That's a limited documentary series
about the Tulsa race massacre for Cineflex Productions as well.
So these stories are being told. Yeah, and those are
great stories because they inspired because a lot of the
things that you know, black people talk about now as
far as you know, black ownership and you know, finding freedom,

(01:24:56):
generational wealth, and yeah, these aren't conversations. These things have
happened before, like like in the Black Wall Street is
one of those stories. All right. Now, Lionel Ritchie has
a musical coming All Night Long that's in the works
from Disney. It's going to be a movie based on
the songs. Yeah, so that should be interesting to watch.

(01:25:18):
I'm not mad at that. Yeah, I think that's the dope.
I like that. I like anything that's like based on
you know, real life people and musicals in particular, So
I'll be interested to watch that. All right. Anna went tour.
You know her from being the editor in chief of
Vogue magazine, and she's the person that everybody wants to

(01:25:39):
be friends so they can go to the met gal
and all of that. Well, she has admitted that Vogue
has been hurtful and intolerant and not done enough to
promote black staff and designers. We've been knew this, she said.
I want to start by acknowledging your feelings and expressing
my empathy toward what so many of you are going
through sadness, hurt, and anger too. I want to say this,
especially to the black members of our team. I can

(01:26:00):
only imagine what these days have been like, but I
also know that the hurt and violence and injustice we're
seeing and talking about have been around for a long time.
Recognizing it and doing something about it is overdue. So
you know, Vogue, and that's something that people have looked
to for so long, and just as like such a
big deal to be on the cover of Vogue, and

(01:26:21):
they're still having like a lot of first moments, like
first black photographer, first this, and it's like, come on, Voe,
let's get with the times now. One of the co
creators of Friends, Marta Kaufman, also confessed that she should
have been more diligent and addressing the very white shows
a lack of diversity. She said, I wish I knew
then what I know today, I would have made very
different decisions. I mean, we've always encouraged people of diversity

(01:26:43):
in our company, but I didn't do enough. And now
all I can think about is what can I do?
What can I do differently? How can I run my
show in a new way? And that's something I not
only wish I knew when I started show running, but
I wish I knew all the way up through last year.
And you know, people talk about Friends all the time
and how there's no black people on Friends ever, and
that's been a conversation that people have been having for

(01:27:04):
quite some time. Yes, and Friends is just a rip
off of living single. Let's be clear on that. Okay,
I never watched Friends. I never. I never watched it
at all. I definitely have watched Friends because it used
to come on so much that sometimes you just turn
on the TV. And I used to watch Seinfeld and
I think Friends. I feel like Friends used to come
on right after Seinfeld or something. But for some reason,

(01:27:25):
like I'll randomly know certain episodes, I never watched something.
I never watched none of that. Not a lie. Nope,
I never watched none of the older I never watched Chairs.
I never watched none of that stuff. I used to
watch Chears now I know, I know the theme. I
never watched it. I like, I used to think it
was pretty funny. So all right. Now. Neo has faced

(01:27:46):
some backlash after he spoke at George Floyd's funeral. So
and you can tell he did not have any intention
of having to go up there and speak, and maybe
he just misspoke, but here's what he said, because he
actually sang, it's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday
in honor of mister Floyd. And here's what he said.
This man change the world, change the world for the better.

(01:28:06):
So I just want to personally thank George Floyd for
his sacrifice so that my kids can be ill later on.
I appreciate, I appreciate the sacrifice my brother. I genuinely do. Sorry,
and I'm a bit of talk. All he received backlash, well,
I think you know, over him saying that George Floyd

(01:28:27):
sacrificed himself so that his children can live, and I think,
you know, the truth of the matter is he didn't sacrifice.
He just was murdered by the police. It wasn't something
that he intended to do. And I don't think Neo
meant any harm by that, by the way, I think
that at all. I think that what he meant to
say was, let's not let George Floyd's death go in vain,
Let's not let his murder go in vain. I don't

(01:28:49):
think that George Floyd was like, I'm sacrificing for people's kids.
But I just think that's what he really meant. And
sometimes people when they have to freestyle and get up, Yeah,
he's uncomfortable. He's singing at a funeral. Words just came
out of his mouth. We know what Neo meant man,
And what Neo said was, yes, if George Floyd died
and hopefully my kids to have a better life because

(01:29:11):
of what happened, that's all he meant, right, And I'm
sure that's what he meant. Yeah, I don't know what
Neo meant, but I know that you know, Jesus got murdered,
and they say Jesus made a sacrifice. Martin Luther King
Junior and Malcolm X got murdered and people say they
made a sacrifice. So what makes it a sacrifice when
you're doing work that you know ultimately will get you killed.

(01:29:31):
Because I don't I don't think George Floyd wanted to
get murdered. But if you believe in God and you
believe everything happens for a reason, then maybe it was
a sacrifice, especially if it serves a greater purpose. The
question is, if you knew something like that had to
happen to you to bring about universal systemic change in
the hearts and minds of people and laws, would you
do it? Would you make that sacrifice? I should read

(01:29:52):
a question right, Well, you know, I just think that
Neo didn't mean any harm. So I just wanted to
put that out there because clearly he's performing at this
man 's funeral and doing that and I'm sure that's
not something that you get paid to do, like you
just do it because you want to, because you care,
and you care about the family and you care about
the friends, and so I'm sure his intentions were good,

(01:30:13):
and we have to think about people's intentions at times
as well. All right, I'm Angela Yee and that is
your rumor report. All right, thank you, miss Ye. Now,
shout out to Revolte. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Everybody
else to People's Choice Mixes Up next, get your request in.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,
Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. Now.

(01:30:35):
We got a shout to our Russell Simmons for joining
us this morning all the way from Bali. It's up
on YouTube right now. And also we got conclusions m
because we know you will, oh they already have. And
also we have to shout out to Angie Martinez. Is
Angela Yee for doing an interview with Brianna Taylor's mom

(01:30:57):
to meet a palmer. Yes, And I just want to
let people know if you want to also make those
calls to make sure that these police officers, these three
officers are charged, are fired, you can call the Kentucky
Attorney General's office. His name is Daniel Cameron and that
number is five zero two six nine six five three

(01:31:17):
zero zero. That's five zero two six nine six five
three zero zero. All right, all right, when we come back,
we got the positive notes. Don't move. It's to Breakfast Club.
Good morning morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne
the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Good morning. We'll
see you guys later on. As Charlomagne, you've got a

(01:31:37):
positive note. I do. Man, It's really simple this morning.
If you're helping someone and expecting something in return, you're
doing business, not kindness. Breakfast Club, you don't finish a
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