Who's On Drugs ( Dr Carl Hart interview)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Dj Angeli Yi and Charlomagne the Guy congratulate you. Hall
of Famers, so I had to be in the presence
and radio royalty, the world's most ding this morning show,
the Breakfast Club. It's a big deal. I think that
y'all have a certain amount of respect for you know
what everybody else does, and y'all are just the best
of what y'all do. We love y'all, man, thank you

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for being the people's champs. Promay the greatest all thrill y'all.
Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo yo yo yo
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yo yo yo. Good morning Angela Ye, good money you
damn me. Charlomagne the guy picked up Planet is Friday, Yes,
it's Friday. Another Friday, another day, a big step of
radio sas squashed feet, Wendy Williams boots were here. Good morning,

(01:04):
what's happening? Good morning? How y'all feel man? I'm good man.
How you guys feeling? I'm blood black and Holly favorite
highly under the influence of Fredero Bang. I'm so mad
at his name. Is fred Fredo Well, I just you know,
I'm so mad at all my folks in my life
who did not put me up on Fredo earlier. Afraido dope,
No Frado is dope. That album is hard, but that
top remix, Oh my god, step yeah, a little dirt

(01:26):
that I can't walk by, Pete. Every day I wake
up to some brand new hate. You should listen to
the mixed more man, you would hear songs like that
install if you would do it live like you used to,
and I'd be sitting in here listening to do music,
I would hear it. Okay, there's no turntables here exactly,
geting gave up on it. Maybe refuses that ever DJ
live ever, ever, ever, ever. But I'm mad at people

(01:50):
for not telling me about fred Fredo Bang earlier. It
doesn't And don't try to talk to me about him
now because y'all wasn't talking to me about him before.
Is frado'bang or does he remember? I don't know. Sloth
to Daniel though it's a death chair, but I'm not
sure my white producing here, he's one of our producer.
Putting me on is one of our top five lip
service interviews. I love that record, though, I really I

(02:13):
got problems with this because I won't be fake love it.
I got my first shout of the vaccine yesterday, So
what are you looking at me like that? I'm just
looking to see what the big gonna grow from now. Man,
it's like the big growing out his neck this morning.
Trip No, man, he come down. Look like the Beijing
on your throat? Does that touch a drum? Touches throat um?

(02:37):
Are you talking about? Yeah? So I took I took
the first shot of the vaccine. Murda, A little weak shot.
You look a little weak, white, your eyes red shut,
be watching. I gotta go back on the twenty fifth
of next month to get my second shot, So I
twitch you. Yeah, what's wrong with you? Man? Good money? Man? Now,

(02:59):
how did you man? Is to get the shot? The
same thing, the same reason I tell you guys yesterday.
You know, if you go, you know, at the end
of the day, a lot of these pharmacies and hospitals
and testing places vaccine places. I should say, they have
to use it. If they don't use it, it goes bad.
So I was just waiting around and like I did
yesterday and yesterday the sential worker came. H Well, the

(03:21):
day before, an essential worker came. Yesterday, no essential worker came,
and I was the only one there about to get
rid of it, so they gave it to me. So
that's how I got the shot. So he was just
hanging out outside of the the pharmacy waiting for a leftover drugs. Basically, yeah,
pretty much. All right, Well, speaking of drugs, we gotta
a great guest this morning. Yes, his name is doctor
Karl Hearts. Yes, I enjoyed doctor Carl Hearts conversation. Yes,

(03:44):
he is the doctor that I don't want to say.
He's a Is he a function in heroin user? Yes,
he is a function functioning heroin user. He uses drugs.
He has a book out called Drug Use for Grown Ups,
Chasing Liberty and Land of Fear. Right. Yeah, so he
talks about his drug use, him using heroin and some
other drugs, and how he's functioning, how he's still a professor,

(04:06):
and he's an American neuroscientist, but he studies drugs. So
what he tells you to do, the average person probably
couldn't do. Nobody should because and he studies the effects
on the brain. So he also wanted to see what
with Darrow would be like, and he knows how to
micro dose and he but it's a lot of things

(04:28):
that you might not do because you're not an expert. Anyway,
I don't think heroin is a drug that you should
be doing recreationally. No, no, no, there's a lot of
drugs like, I mean, it's not I I don't think
you should be doing crack recreation. You know. But he
talks about his drug use, he wrote a book about it.
He's a professor. But we're not here to judge just

(04:49):
because we may not necessarily agree, but we will. We
will have the conversation with him this morning. I just
can't get into the you know, mold of telling people
just say yes, that's just yeah, I'm with the motor No,
don't try it, don't use it. It's not okay. What
if you're in the hospital and they prescribe it. I've
never gonna prescribe heroin. Prescribe what heroin? Yeah, heroin for well,

(05:12):
not crack, but heroin. Yeah. The type of open, definite
people get. People get addicted to those Like the opioid
death rate is through the roof right now. Opioid overdose
death rate, it's through the roof right now. You know,
I do a lot of real estate, and we do
a lot of real estate and messed up areas, and
I would say seventy to eighty percent of the time
when I walk in these houses, you would see a
heroin fiend in there and needles everywhere. And then when

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you have conversations with them, they usually come from a
great family or a nice family, or a lot of
times family with money, but they got addicted and they
can't get out. Yeah, I just can't stop and they
have to continue to have this this drug. This drug
took their life over and they went to rehab and
they can't get out. They can't kick it, they can't
beat it. So I've seen it. I had family members
that odeed or drugs. So I don't play with drugs

(05:57):
like I'm not even trying, like no, Like Heroin is
the most addictive and it's the hardest to get off.
But to your point, when you've seen a dopege, yes,
you're not cant encourage nobody to do that recreationally otherwise.
But we'll talk about it all right, Front Page News.
What we're talking about, Well, let's talk about the X
Team USA gym nastics coach John gettart he is dead.
We'll tell you what happened everything, every boy, Hi, whatever,

(06:23):
I don't know. He started talking to me. Nick cameraman
looked at me and say, why are you talking about Mars?
I said what? And he said, we landed on Mars.
What are you talking about? Its gates? All right, Well,
let's get in some front page news. Where we start, Well,
let's start with John Gettt, the coach of the legendary
twenty twelve team USA gymnastics team. Now, he was charged

(06:45):
with multiple accounts of human trafficking and sexual assault. He
faced us up to life in prison, and he's six
he's sixty three years old. But they say he should
not be celebrated as some great coach. He actually sexually
assaulted an unidentified person in twenty twelve who was between
the ages of thirteen and sixteen. But the charges he's
facing twenty counts of human trafficking, two counts of sexual assault,

(07:07):
one count of racketarian, one count of lying to a
peace officer. Well, now he is dead, according to state officials,
and they said he took his own life after sexual
assault child charges were filed against him. Gunshot wound. They
said he died yesterday afternoon. I know you even heard
him towards this. Now. He actually has ties to Larry Nassar.

(07:27):
You know him, that was the tennis no Olympic coach.
Well Nassar was the team doctor for the gymnastics team. Yeah,
he was a doctor, so he um. Yeah, they have
some ties with each other too, So he's no longer
here all right. A survey shows that thirty eight percent
of Americans would give up sex if they could travel again.
They would give up sex for a year in order

(07:50):
to be able to travel again. So no from me,
not me. That's what I love going. I love traveling
to have sex with my wife. That's what having sex
and exotically travel of taking my wife. But you haven't
sex there anyway? Hello, Well you guys could also have
connections in other ways too, we do. You could travel
together and not have sex and to have great deep conversation.

(08:14):
I'm not with that. I would venture to say that
those thirty eight percent of people probably weren't having sex anyway.
How much sex are they having prior to them giving
it up? That's what I would like tell people that,
like man, I haven't traveled in a year. I need
to go somewhere. I haven't traveled in it yet, but
I'm good. Yeah, I'll take I'm much rather than my
destination be my wife's John damn much. You know, I'm

(08:35):
fine with that, all right. The Senate has ruled against
including including the increase in the minimum wage and the
COVID relief bill. They decided that last night. How much
so when they ruled against it, Yeah, fifteen dollars an hour.
So what they are saying is they believe that they
do believe that it will pass easier, the COVID relief
bill without the minimum wage in it. But of course
Democrats feel like, no, we need to have this in

(08:57):
the bill. It's very important, and Republicans are the ones
that are against it. So Biden is disappointed in this outcome.
He proposed having the fifteen dollar minimum wage as part
of the American Rescue Plan, and he respects their decision
in the sentence process, but they still want to make
sure that bill gets passed. Yeah, I gotta talk to
somebody way smarter than me on this, because I thought
Democrats had control of the Senate. Yeah, I thought Kamala

(09:20):
Harris was the tiebreaker and all of that type of stuff.
Don't you have to have like two thirds or something.
I don't know. That's why I gotta talk to somebody
smarter than me. I have no idea. All right, well
that is your front page news. All right, get it
off your chests. Eight hundred five eight five one oh
five one. If you need to vent, hit us up
right now, phone line to wide open. It's the Breakfast Club.
Good morning, the Breakfast Club. This is your time to

(09:47):
get it off your chests, whether you're mad or blest. Hello,
who's this was going on? Man? I want to say
an emental if I can. It's kind of a first situation.
It's the radio. You just give us a fake. What
would you want your name to be? If you could
choose any name? Mike say Mike, Hey Mike, what's happening?
Good morning? Mico? Might get it off your chest? Bike?

(10:08):
Um No, I've been going through it, man. I'm trying
to trying to secure a place to live. Man, and
I'm twenty nine years old. I have a good credit score,
I have money for a down payment and for you know,
closing costs and stuff. But I can't find nobody to
help me because I don't have I mean, I don't
have the income to get the house. And I've been

(10:28):
in a wheelchair for the past ten years, going through
rehabilitation after getting shot, and you know, open heart surgery
and stuff like that. So I haven't had the work
history that everybody's asking me for. And man, I got
seven months left on my least. I'm playing eighteen hundred
dollars a month and my rental history doesn't even matter.

(10:49):
And I'm about to be on the street with my
three kids. I'm a stepfather to three kids. You know
what I'm saying. What money do you have coming in monthly?
Do you have an income coming in monthly? Yeah? I
mean I'm a government assistance you know what I'm saying.
But they don't give me nearly enough for them to
approve me for a loan. Right. Well, See, that's the thing.
If any bank won't give you a loan, I mean,
as far as what you make. There's different ways they

(11:11):
can do a loan. They can actually do it as
far as checking your deposits and see how much you
actually deposit a month, But you got to show some
money coming in. You just can't say I can afford
this house. Trust me, like, you gotta have some type
of income coming in where you can show the lenders
that it's okay that you can pay that loan. Though. Yeah,
I mean I've been trying, and it's like I'm going
everywhere that I can to get a job for leave.
But even if I get a job right now, nobody

(11:33):
hiring for COVID. You know, I've been trying my best man,
but like, I's got suffering money. But I'm gonna be
on the street, and I know there's somebody out there
that can help me out to finance me. I have
money coming to them from the government. How much money
you got coming in from the government, About eight hundreds
a month? So how do you pay the rest of
your rent? The rest of the thousand dollars for your rent?
I mean, I have people that helped me out and stuff.

(11:54):
You know, I'll do sign all to underside whatever I can,
and you know, I just try to make money as
much as possible throughout the weeks to come. But every month,
you know, being eighteen hundred dollars of months is crazy.
And if I had a house, I wouldn't be a
kneel of that much. No, I mean, yeah, because if
you had a house. But you know what, you know
what you could do. Let me put you on the

(12:14):
line with with Matt because what they can do is
they can do an asset lending, and asset lending is
pretty much saying if you buy purchase a two family house,
you you make the money or for the other apartments,
and that's how you pay your part of the rent.
Maybe that's an option for you, especially since you have
the down payment and everything already and enough for the
closing course. So hold on, let me put you on
the on the line with with one of my people

(12:35):
and see if they can help you. I don't know,
I don't know if they can, but I mean it
might be a good way to go, because you know
that way you can say the two apartments, pay your
rent and pay your mortgage, and then you just live
in the on the last apartment with your family. That
might be an option. I wanted to do anything because,
like I said, I got I got three kids and

(12:55):
a white man. I don't want to be on the street.
I don't want to lose my family, my life right now,
hold on, brother, thank you all right, get it off
your chest. Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.
If you need to vent, hit us up right now.
It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club of Yo.
This is your time to get it off your chest,

(13:17):
whether you're mad or blast. Eight hundred five eight five
one oh five one. We want to hear from you
on the Breakfast Club. Okay, what's up? Get it off
your chest. Let me tell you something. There's a famous
celebrity from the forties that looks like a combination of you,
envy and charlot me. I want to know if you
ever heard of a celebrity named reck Ingram. Never heard

(13:37):
of never heard of him, I ever heard of the
names to booth. Nope, that's the famous and then actor.
You should do the rigging next stuff like that. There
was a genie, his name is rech Ingram. When he
opens up the bottle, he looks exactly like a combination
of you and envy. Well you sharlow me. He has
your stuff and eyebrowsers. So let me go look at
this hands and man, let me google him. Thank you, mama,

(13:58):
An don't look nothing like me, that nothing like getting
I'm looking looking at him right now. He was an actor.
I'm looking at him right now. He was an actor
in eighteen hundreds eighteen ninety five. He was born, though
I died in nineteen sixty nine. Jelly Belly from Boston. Hey,

(14:19):
Jelly Belly, get it off for Charlamagne? Right, Yes, Jelly.
When you started therapy, do you remember the first UM
interview that you did that you transformed? Do you realize
you was you change? Oh? I don't. I would have
to give it some thought for some reason. Why G

(14:41):
popped in my head just now because I remember having
a conversation with YG about therapy when he was here.
I think this was after Nipsey past. Maybe I'm not sure.
You know what that Nipsey moment, I realized I had
changed too, because I never thought I would have pay
for the person who actually killed Nipsey, you know what

(15:03):
I mean. I looked at that brother and I was like, man,
that brother had to be in some real pain. He
had to be dealing with some real trauma to to
do that, to do that to Nipsey, not just shoot him,
but would kick him the way that he did that.
That that moment, I definitely felt the real change. Absolutely. Okay,
And what about ye and um Envy? Did you guys

(15:24):
see a change after his therapy session, that you guys
were scared afterwards, or like Charlemagne, I would say this,
he got a little he got more kinkier. So like
you know, I can tell that he needed some more love.
Like I guess, he wanted more self love and more
outside love. So he comes in asking for more hugs.
He stands behind me more. I do see that. I've
been going to therapy though since twenty sixteen. Thank you, Mama. No,

(15:47):
that's fine. Lead with love, that's all. That's all I
got to say. Lee would love everybody. I love, Thank you,
Thank you. Hello. Who's this Hey? This is Brad calling
from Dallas. Brad, what's up from Dallas? Man? Get it
off his chest. First of all, I want to say
good morning to Angela. Angela ye Vane the god DJ
every man. I love what y'all do. Thank you. I'm
I'm a veteran man. I'm a labeled sixty percent disabled

(16:12):
from the military. I've been trying to purchase a home
for the past six years, man, six seven years. I
just I'm unable to do it. Man. I raised my
credit from five forty all the way to seven eighty,
and then I told her man, for some reason, cop

(16:32):
of the one place that I missed a payment or
something like that in my credit drop from seven eighty
to like six forty, and right now I raised it
right back up to seven ten. And I'm it's just
hard for me to get alone. Man, I don't know
what to do. Um, well, you hold on a line.
I gotta credit. Do that that I get your credit
back up, and then it's just a matter of finding

(16:53):
a property. Do you have income coming in? Oh yeah, man,
I worked on a wife's work. I get income from
the military, so the income is not a problem. Okay,
all right, and then um yeah, we should be able
to find this is your first time, your first time
purchasing the home, first time? Man, Oh yeah, so you'll
qualifying the regulations. All right. You hold on him and
I put you on my guy that could possibly get

(17:14):
you a loan. I want to say this to this
brother too. Man. This is why America pisses me off,
because this is a veteran who you know, was on
the front lines for our country. I feel like all
veterans should get free healthcare. You should get all you
should get free room in board, right, and you should
get like a stipend every month to take care of
you know, whatever, whatever your needs are, you should be

(17:35):
getting taken care of for the rest of your life.
You should not be in this position at all. Yeah.
I thought they had special programs from veterans. I know
in Detroit they do now they have special programs for veterans.
And then they have FHR loans where he would only
have to put down three percent or three and a
half percent. But um, yeah, I'll get you with a
mortgage guy that can help you out and hopefully he
can get you put point you in the right direction. Right, man,
I definitely appreciate that. Man, God bless y'all. Man, his

(17:57):
name is Matt. I'm gonna put you on with Matt,
master guy that gets a people loans. All right, all right,
get it off your chest. Eight hundred five A five
one oh five one. And that's the reason why I
do those seminars, to try to teach people so people
don't go in the wrong direction. And you can help
people get loans, and there's different ways. And the people
that I'm around its way smarter than me when it
comes to real estate, and I can ask them and
ain't no ways, and they've been able to do this

(18:19):
a million times before, and the next seminar, we're doing
this in Atlanta on March fourteenth, where we break it
down everywhere from vets to fah loans, to first time
home buyers, to investment properties to multi units to all that.
We bring everybody from credit repair to attorneys, to contractors,
to conventional lending to hard money lending. We break it

(18:41):
all down because we really try to help people. I
know Drama's been one of the seminars and he recently
pursedes his crib and we just try to help as
many people as possible because I want to see people,
you know, owning their own homes instead of renting. So
hopefully we'll see you guys in Atlanta on the fourteenth.
All right, now, we got rooms on the way, yes,
and we'll be talking about Mike Tyson he to boycott Hulu.

(19:01):
We'll tell you why. All right, we'll get into that next.
It's the Breakfast Club, Go Moore, the Breakfast Club team.
This is the rumor rapport with Angela Yee on the
Breakfast Club. Well, Mike Tyson wants you to boycott Hulu. Now.

(19:23):
He put out a statement on his Instagram page. He said,
these actions taken by Hulu are just the tip of
the iceberg. We shouldn't be surprised by these abhorrent actions,
as they represent the systemic racism that has plagued Hollywood
for its entire existence. These corporate giants hide behind employees
and praise themselves for offering tone deaf attempts at diversity
and inclusion, like Hulu's Black Stories playlists that recommends stories

(19:46):
about black culture to viewers on the app. Yet behind
closed doors, they steal stories from the black community, all
because they are doing an unauthorized mini series of the
Tyson Story without compensation. Yeah. I never understood unauthor unauthorized
book or documentaries or movies about people, Like how can
someone just make something about you, use your name, your story,

(20:07):
your likeness, and that compensate you. I've never understood that. Well,
Mike Tyxon is, by the way, doing his own authorized
autobiography too. That story is in development, so it will
be coming in coming out soon. But there's nothing you
can do about it, right, it seems always it is
always something you can do. I'm sure, and I'm sure

(20:28):
it's some type of legal action. I think people don't
be wanting to, you know, go down that road because
you know, these networks got so much goddamn money. You
know what I meaning? These companies you're trying to go
up and gets got so much money. But I don't
get it. You think people were boycott Hulu? Um, I
don't see why not? Why not? I just want to
make sure we put it out there because Dave Chappelle
clearly did it. Or you know, even with the Dave

(20:50):
Chappelle's situation is different, right because everybody says yeah, but
everybody said he boycotted. But also what really helped Dave
was HBO Max removing it and Netflix removing it. You
think people would have boycotted those shows were still up
there without those networks taking that down. I think it's easier.
I think he said he didn't want people to watch it,
so he told them don't watch it, don't stream it
because it was on for a little while. And then

(21:10):
when they they gonna make any money from it too. Yeah,
I think it helps when the network supports the artist,
supports the creative. All right now, Nicki Minaj her barbs
are sending death threats to Claudia Jordan. I know, right,
all right, So this is what Claudia Jordan said, and
you know, she has a show on Fox Soul, and

(21:31):
she was telling a story about running into Meek Mill
and Nicki minaj Here's what she said. Meek got upset
about someone trying to take a picture of them in restaurant.
But I'm like, it's Nicki Minaje, the biggest rapper of
all time at the time, and Meek Mills like they're
a hot celebrity rap couple, and of course someone's gonna
try to take a picture, and he like made a scene.
I remember feeling pretty like kind of bad Nicki. She

(21:52):
was like yo, okay, port nick She was trying to
control her guy like just chill, just chill, and he
was just like I think and we were one table over.
It was like super uncomfortable. What did she say that
was bad? The part where she said Nikki was I
guess the hottest And then she said at that time, Oh,
you know, it's funny. I saw when this first happened,

(22:14):
and I was like, oh, the barbs are going to
be mad. I didn't hear that, util you just said it,
and that's what they were mad about. And she wasn't
trying to insult Nicki Minaj. No, it's jay Z who
said before that you're you're you're only going to be
like that white hot artist once. You know what I'm saying,
you can always be consistently hot. But that that that
time when this year a moment like you know, that's
that's a few years were sending out death threats. Listen

(22:35):
to what Claudia had to say, Yeah, doing a little
death threats and the you know, i'most spit on you
when I see you because you talked about Meek Mills
and I found you was trying to shade her in
your compliment Claudia, you can definitely tell her story because
it's her story to tell, But what was the context?
What was the reason she was She was talking about
Meek Mill and how he was a little acting out.

(22:56):
So in the course of the story, she's talking about
seeing Nikki and Meek out together and how Meek was
really upset and kind of embarrassing Nikki. So that was it.
She wasn't trying to insult Nicki Minaj, but they took
it that way, all right. Natri is going to be
co lead opposite Eve in a new ABC show that
ABC hour long pilot is called Queens. So it's four

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strange and out of touch women and their forties reuniting
for a chance to recapture their fame and regain the
swagger they had as the Nasty Bitches. It was a
group in the nineties that made them legends in the
hip hop. Well, well, so what she's not gonna be
on Power Normal? She is still they said, she is
still going to be. She's no longer a series regular. Yep.
Sound to me like some mighty character might be getting

(23:41):
killed off, But she is. They said, gonna reprise her
role in some fashion down the road. So I don't
know what's happening on the next season. Of course, they're
not going to tell you because they're shooting the new
season of Goals and now I believe, so we shall see.
But so congratulations to my girl Natri. Also, Tyler Perry
has another drama that's going to be a BT plus
and it's called All the Queen's Men, and that's going

(24:03):
to follow the female owner of an upscale strip club
in Atlanta who is savvy and charming. They said they're
going to be shooting that in Georgia and Atlanta. Okay,
All right, Britney Spears. Her mom has denied calling Columbus
short the N word. Now, he had done an interview
and he was talking about the incident that happened. He
was a backup dancer for Britney Spears, by the way,

(24:26):
and he had choreographed her tour back in two thousand
and four. He was on Jazzy Bell's YouTube show Inside
Hollywood earlier this month and he said this, like, I
wasn't shocked when it happened. Look where they're from. They're
from a Louisiana. Just because they're in Hollywood, you know
they have black bodyguards. Don't mean that they don't behind
closed doors use that word. And the way it came
out was so effortless. Did you ever felt that Britney

(24:47):
Spears was racist? Well after that, I felt like maybe
she was using me to piss them off for some reason.
But I don't know. No, I think she is a
really sweet person that was toward tormented. I liking it
to like Princess Diana, she was the pop princess of
this one of the world. Yeah, I just pulled it
up on us Weekly, you know. Her mom replied, I know,

(25:09):
I got it right here. Okay, she said, nigga, please,
I would never no. Her mom, Lynn Spears denied it,
and she said, I want to be very clear, those
terrible words are not remotely in my vocabulary. She said
that to The New York Post, page six. I would
never say that to anyone, much less my daughter. Ever.
He has it in his book too, by the way.

(25:30):
All right, well that is your rumor report. All right,
now we got FROMT page News. Next we'll be talking about. Yes,
let's talk about this is George Floyd Police Reform bill.
House Democrats have reintroduced that bill finally. All right, we'll
get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,
Billy Jean, Billy Jean morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Guee,
Charlomagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club. Let's getting

(25:52):
too front page News where we're starting easy. Oh, I
wanted to clarify something earlier. I know Charlomagne had a
question about the minimum wage and the COVID relief bill. Well,
they had ruled against even putting that in the bill
for COVID relief. That's why it's not in it. It's
not that it didn't pass, it's just that they ruled
that they couldn't put it in the actual COVID relief
package that bill. They'll have to do that separately. So

(26:15):
that's why it's not there. It's not that it was
voted on all right now. House Democrats also reintroduced policing
legislation that is named in honor of George Floyd, the
George Floyd Justice and Policing Act of twenty twenty one.
That's what the bill is called. They want to overhaul
qualified immunity for law enforcement and prohibitions on racial profiling
on the part of law enforcement, and a ban on

(26:35):
no knock warrants and federal drug cases. They could vote
on this proposal as soon as next week. Yeah, finally,
you know, the George Floyd Policing Act, making weed legal,
decriminalizing weed, whatever it is. Those are some things I thought,
you know, they would have knocked out of the park asap,
because those are things that they actually were running on.
You know, those were reasons they were telling us we
should vote if you want to George Floyd Policing Act,

(26:57):
if you want you know, marijuana legal, vote Democrat. So
they should have knocked that out of the park early,
gets done. Next week. Joe Biden posted on Twitter, I'm
pleased at the House, but vote next week on the
George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. I encourage the House
to pass it following Senate consideration. I hope to be
able to sign it into law. A landmark police to
perform worm bill. So I know he came in and

(27:20):
did all these things immediately, but the main thing is
you want to make sure that it becomes an actual
law so that it's not something the next president can overturn.
All right, now, let's discuss this supposed object that could
have been a UFO. The FBI is looking into an
encounter with the UFO that was in flying over New Mexico.

(27:42):
That flight was American Airlines headed to Phoenix from Cincinnati.
Here is what they said, Abby targets up here. We
just had stuff to go right over the top of
us that I hate to say, this looked like a
long celindrical object that almost looked like a cruise muscial
type of think, moving really fast but ent right over
the top of the will listen, it's time, I mean listen, man.

(28:04):
You know you know I'm an avid believer and extraterrestrial
simply because you cannot look at this planet Earth and
look at all the diversity of life on this Earth
and think that the universe is not as diverse. I mean,
you got humans here and fish and animals, birds in
the sky, all types of stuff. You think that the
universe is not as diverse? Come on, you think we're
the smartest life forms and all of these galaxies? Please?

(28:26):
Did you have an incident? Also, I've definitely seen the
UFO before. So are in third grade? Now? You said
something somebody abducted you. I've been abducted before as well. Right,
how did you skip over that? But talk about this?
I mean I've had a bunch of actually actually wrote
a book called Black Privilege, Opportunity Comes to those who creatives,
some New yng Times bestseller. I you know, detail these
experiences in death. But they said you had two holes

(28:49):
in your had two scars on both shins. They were
in the exact same place, they were the exact same length,
woke up, woke up in them in the morning with
them there. That was recently though, that was in the
past five years, five six years. Absolutely, But you know what,
but listen, I see the looks on your face. I
can't wait to see the looks on your face when
y'all realized aliens are real. Extra trust is real, and

(29:11):
they're looking at us like we were aliens the whole time.
They're gonna look at you and be like, whatever that
is on your face isn't natural study. You've been studying
humans for years. That that that that black stuff on
your face, that doesn't come naturally. Shout to Kevin Hart,
shout the college shot. But you, my brothers, you want
everybody to get a Beijing conspiracy shot. Carter, I can't

(29:34):
see my brothers. God, what are we going? What are
we going into next? Gracious? Let's him die in peace,
my brod that when we come back, doctor Carr Hart
will be joining it. That's a good transition. Why from
one thing to that? Go ahead, that doctor Carl Hard
he um. I guess he's an avid heroine music. I
guess it's a good transition because it beat me up, Scottie,

(29:56):
you know what I mean? He gets hot right off heroin. Yeah, okay.
The book out called drug Use for Growing Ups, Chasing
Liberty in the Land of Fear, And don't just call
him a drug user. He's a professor of neuroscience, and
psychology at Columbia University. He did an aviad drug user.
That he's a professor at Columbia University. And by the way,

(30:17):
he's the first line in his book is I'm like
he says, like, I'm I'm an avid drug user. Yeah,
I'm an unapologetic drug use. That I don't want to
just define him as just that though, like he's just
a regular just you know, he studies it. But just
the way he said, he's doctor Carhard, he's an avid
drug user. Coming up next, he's he's an aviad drug user.
That that's what he tells. But I'm saying what makes

(30:38):
him qualified to write a book is he's also a
neuroscientist and he's known for his research on drug abuse
and drug addiction. There we go, however you want to
say it. He's an avid drug user that teachers at
Columbia University. We're gonna talk to him next, y'all want
to put it out there, all right, he's a heroin user.
We're gonna talk to him. It's a breakfast club corning.
What the breakfast club? We got a special us in

(31:00):
the building today. Yes, indeed, doctor Carl Hard, Columbia University professor. Welcome, sir,
Thank you for having me. Good morning, sir. Tell them
a little bit more about yourself. I'm a professor at Columbia.
I also teach, I mean work at the New York
State Psychiatric Institute, where I'm a research scientist. I've been
doing that for about twenty five years. Before that, I

(31:21):
was at Yale, and before that, I was at the
University of California, San Francisco. That we talked about you
earlier this week because you were all over the news,
got a book out, and you were talking that you
you are an admitted heroin user. We'll get to the
book first. The book, it was all over the news
and I saw you on that crack Um documentary. Yeah,

(31:42):
I saw him on that crack Like It's great. It's great.
You should watch it if you guys hadn't seen it yet.
But the book is called drug Used for Growing Ups,
Chasing Liberty in the Land of Fear. It's explaining that title.
The real action is in the subtitle Chasing Liberty in
the Land of Fear. I used drugs as a topic
to explore our own liberty. I'm a drug expert, so

(32:03):
I use drugs and I was trying to point out
to people that the Declaration of Independence, for example, guarantees
all of us three birthrights, life, liberty, and the pursuit
of happiness as long as you don't mess with anybody
else's ability to do the same. Now, what that means
is that you can live your life however you choose.
And I was using drugs as a topic. It's like,

(32:26):
why should people care what you put in your body
as long as you are a good person. And so
in exploring this topic this past week, I realized that
I'm an example of how moralistic we are. Regardless of
what kind of person you are, people will attack you
if you engage in certain behaviors that have been deemed evil.

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Whether there was a time when homosexuality was the case,
there was a time when black people were being attacked
for just being black. Now, drugs, crack, or heroine is
the evil thing to engage in because those things hurt people,
including the person using them. You know what I mean?
A great question. So I didn't ask a question, but well,

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I was trying to save you, right, because on the
one hand, you should know that heroin is a medication
that is approved for treatment. Heroin and morphine are essentially
the same drug. Point is is that heroin is a
perfectly good pain reliever. It also induces euphoria and a
wide range of effects that we desire, like pleasure. So

(33:33):
when you say that it doesn't harm you, certainly it
can harm you. If people overdo it and they don't
know what they're doing, Yeah, they certainly can be harmed,
just like when you drive a car. But is it
addictive though it is heroin addictive? Is heroin addictive? Certainly
can be addictive. You drink alcohol, not really well, people
drink alcohol. Alcohol is addictive. In my book, I'm trying

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to help people to understand what makes things addictive, not
the substance itself. Because as much as seventy five the
people who use heroin are not addicted, they don't have
any problem. When you see this, you say, if most
of the people who use that drug, or any other
drug for that matter, are not addicted, then you have
to look beyond the drug itself. And in this book,

(34:18):
I'm trying to tell people what those factors are that
increases someone's likelihood of becoming addicted. I'm fascinating body's conversation.
What do you what are your drug the choice? What
are my drugs of choice? Yeah, so like that kind
of question. For example, it's like saying, what's your favorite
sexual position. It's a private thing. Well, no, you put
it in the book. You said you do heroin. You
said you do hero No, no no, no, Hello. I put
a lot of things in the book. I said that

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I have done heroin. For example, like in the past
week the media, I think it's been said I do
heroin every day, I inject and so forth. As it's
just untrue. You know, we're in a pandemic. How can
I get heroin in this pandemic? At least I can't,
And any heroine I ever use was pharmaceutically grade heroin.
I don't do drugs at are off the street. That's stupid.

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You know, I published Brooklyn or the Bronx. United States
ain't the only country, you know. I travel a lot
in this book. I travel to five different continents, and
heroin is available on pharmaceutical grade in many of these
countries in which I travel too. So people they have
this idea of someone who uses heroin as some poor

(35:25):
soul who is injecting the drug and is a slave
to the drug and they think that heroin is the
reason for that person's problem, because that person definitely exists,
but that the person's problem is not so much heroin
as everything else, Like the person might have co occurring
psychiatric illnesses, the person might have had some traumatic stuff

(35:46):
that's happened to their life. Can I ask you a question? Absolutely.
I always have people say, well, I'm chasing that high
I got the first time that I use it? Is
that a real thing? Because I've heard so many people
say that on documentaries. Yeah, I know, because we are
willing to accept that, right, Um, it's certainly true. Like
just think of the first time you enjoyed an orgasm.
It's like it was amazing for me the first time.

(36:09):
It's like, am I chasing the first time I had
an orgasm? No, of course not. But aldough I drink
that feeling. I like that orgasm can't kill me? It
what orgasm can't kill me? You certainly can't get kill
I mean you think about sexual even translated the diseases
and and so forth. Again, the title of the book
is drug used for grown Ups. I'm trying to have

(36:29):
a grown up conversation about drugs, and that's why. But
That's why we're asking because you know, we don't know,
like for instant, would you consider yourself addicted to heroin?
Or when is the last time you use heroin more
than a year ago? I don't know, Okay, but this
is the thing. Your press makes it seem like you
use it every morning, like you poppy, click open the
fireplace and get me that. But that's why we have

(36:50):
you here. I want you to know you we're not
We're not judging. You were bringing you here to have
the conversation. Trust me. I appreciate it and I know it.
What is the message you're trying to get across? Drug
use for grown ups? All right? So you all know
as At Yams, right, yes? And you know he died
from what was termed a drug overdose, right Yes. When
that brother died, his mom contacted me and she gave

(37:14):
me his toxicology to report and showed me what was
in the system. And it appears that he may have
died from a combination of opioids and other sedatives. Now,
for years, I have been writing that if you're going
to use opioids, don't combine it with other sedatives like alcohol.

(37:34):
People like promethazine, don't combine your opioids with those drugs
because it increases the likelihood of respiratory depression. So I
made a promise to her that I would do everything
I could to educate the public about this. And that's
one of the main messages from the book. And this
is the message that the New York Post does not say.

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And that's why I am. It upsets me so much
when I have nothing but love and can passion and
people who are attacking me. Yeah, I'm not gonna to watch.
I'm watching your body language and I see you shaking.
I'm like, okay, is he going through withdrawals? He upset
about a break man? Come on, man, you know I'm
set clearly. Yeah, you know. It's like, first of all,

(38:18):
I have too much respect for you, too much respect
for you, and too much respect for you not to
come here and be correct. All right. We have more
with doctor Carhart when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club.
Come on, everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy.
We are the breakfast Club. We have doctor car Hart,
were still kicking it with him. Would you want your
children to indulge it in drug use? Because you know

(38:39):
growing up, I see you from Miami, from a poverty
stricken area. You've you sold drugs, you use drugs as
a kid. You're engaged in petty crimes. But you know
one thing growing up, the first thing your parents say
is don't use drugs. Would you advise your kids to
use drugs? And tell your kids about using drugs. It's
like saying, would you advise your kids to have sex? Right?
You know, sex the correlations because everybody I hope has

(39:00):
had sex. But I'm trying to marry. Well, I'll tell
you and the kids are getting married, and sex it's pleasurable.
So when you said, would you advise your kids to
engage in drugs? And all wouldn't advise them. But that's
not my concern whether they do it or now. My
concern is keeping them safe. So my kids telling them
where a condom exactly, exactly, the street exactly. Because the

(39:26):
most dangerous thing about drugs to most people who are
black and brown is not the drugs, it's the police.
And so that's why I would really tell people don't.
But I was in it sometimes to know what's in it.
But you tell your kids don't use drugs, like I
tell my kids don't use your don't I'm not going
to tell them go to the store where you know

(39:46):
what's in the drug. I'm just saying, don't use it
at all. People used to be like that about marijuana too,
basically that you don't some weird it's terrible. Now it's illegal.
I'm Can we come back to your point please. The
point you made was if we don't know what's in
these substances on the street, you're absolutely right. So the
country says we're in an opioid crisis, one thing that

(40:08):
is true. We certainly have had a number of overdoses.
And one of the main reasons that people are overdosing
is because they get tainted drug. They think that they
may have something like heroin or oxycodone, when in fact
they have fentanyl. Fentanyl is a lot more potent than
heroin or oxycodone. That means that a smaller amount of

(40:28):
that drug is enough and sometimes cases to kill you.
And we can solve that problem, just like they did
in places like Spain, Portugal and the Netherlands, Austria. They
have these centers where you can submit small amounts of
your drug and you can have a test it and
get a chemical print out of what's contained in your drug,

(40:50):
and that way you know, if some contaminant that's dangerous
is in your drug, don't take it. Have you ever
tried anything else to deal with whatever trauma makes this
than you? Because so many folks turn to drugs when
they have pain. Have you tried any other methods? Of course?
I mean I love comedy, you know, I go see shows.
There are a number of ways that we deal with

(41:12):
unpleasant things in our lives, and I would never tell
somebody to turn to drugs to deal with trauma or
even try. Wait wait, wait, I'm talking about heroin. I'm
talking about crack, I'm talking about meth. I'm talking about cocaine.
I ain't talking about Iowa scar trooms and need and
stuff like. First of all, to be clear, I am

(41:33):
not telling anybody to do drugs. I don't have to.
People will seek out drugs. My job is to try
and help people do this activity as safely as possible
if you're going to do it. So there's notion that
I'm somehow promoting drugs. The first sentence in my author's
note is that this book is not promoting drugs. That's
not what I do. I do know when people say

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you have an addictive personality, is that a real thing?
Because they feel like, you know, you said a certain
percentage of people will have issues with addiction and some
people won't, But how do you know? Yeah, so this
notion of an addictive personality is myth. Now, it is
true that some people will be more likely to become
addicted than other people, and some of those things I

(42:17):
try to lay out earlier. If you have co occurring
psychiatric illnesses and your parents, if your parents are addicts,
is that No, there's no real evidence that says like
your genetics will determine whether you become addicted, Although that's
a popular sort of saying and in science we are
still investigating it, but the evidence is very weak. But

(42:38):
also consider this. Just think about people who have unrealistic
expectations placed on them because they are supporting their families,
their friends, they're supporting all of these people, and they
have to perform night in, night out, and they have
to do all of these kinds of things. Those sort
of unrealistic expectations placed on them also increases the likelihood

(42:59):
that these people too will become addicted. So that's why
you tell them go to therapy, tell them take up meditation,
tell them go do yoga. I'm not gonna tell them
running do heroin. Well, I guess for me, man, it's
I've seen so many bad examples of heroin users. You
know what I mean, crackheads. I've never seen any functioning
heroin users are functioning crack addicts. And what are you
looking at once? You know? I mean I good effects

(43:23):
of heroin? Like you always hear the bad effects of
her when you hear liver and kinney disease, you see
deteriorating the brain cells. You hear all these things, like,
what's the good effects of her? Like, what's what's something
good about it? Okay, So in twenty fifteen, I went
to Switzerland and I worked in a heroin clinic where
people who are actually a heroin addicted. They received heroin

(43:45):
twice a day every day. Most of those people are employed,
all of them have housing. Most of them are happy
their health improved because they don't know they no longer
have to be out on the street looking for heroin,
and they have no interest in stopping using their hero
and they are productive members of their society. That's all good.
That's what we want from people, right, But what about

(44:06):
it on the body though, you know, Yeah, if I
don't drink this water, I'm not gonna go. You know,
some of my mother's vc are to make money to
get the water. Yeah, I win it. If it's addictive,
I'm doing whatever it takes because I need that hit. Yeah. So,
like that story that you're telling is like an extreme anecdote.
Certainly you can find that person. But that's something up. No, no,

(44:27):
hold not. I'm from the hood. I started studying drugs
because of the whole crack era. You know, I believe
crack was destroying my community, just like everybody else, the
whole New Jack City thing. You know, I believed all
that sort of thing. But the problem is it's that
I misattributed what was going on with those people. I
thought it was the drug, when in fact it was
all these other things like that. Right on. So this

(44:52):
is true. People are do experience problems, but don't get
it twisted. When most of the people who are using
heroin something like heroin, they're not gonna tell you because
of all of this negative judgment. Of course, the ones
who are functioning well, they're not gonna say so the
only ones that you see are the ones who are

(45:12):
contrite and they are repentant because they want your help
and they know that's the only story that you will accept.
And so what I'm trying to do in the book
is to show people that that story is actually killing people,
because people are less likely to seek help when they
need it, and we are less likely to implement the

(45:33):
programs that we need to help people. I'm glad you
said that because I agree with you when you say
drugs should be legal. Whenever I see people get locked
up for you know, possession of crack or possession of
heroin cocama, like, don't send them to jail, send them
to rehab, provide them with opportunities, give them treatments. That's
what I thought your stance was. Yeah, yeah, because that's easy.

(45:54):
That's easy. I mean, that's what it. Gonnas was right. Well,
I'm arguing that we should regulate all these drugs. That way,
we'll have quality control, we'll have better education, all of that.
But if you argue that that respective, you have to
understand that we have exaggerated the harmful effects of drugs.
And in this book, I'm showing people how that's a

(46:15):
tough that's a tough line to say, doctor Carr, that
we've exaggerated the harmful effects of drugs. Have you seen
what happens the crack addicted people, herold addicted people, What
happens to their families, what happens to the communities that
exist with individuals like that? Like, that's kind of hard
to say we're exaggerating. We tell everybody that bullet story
about crack, and that story is imprisoning us. It prevents

(46:39):
us from looking at deeper what was going on. Oh,
crack destroyed the community, and that's hold on, let me
explain highest rates of unemployment. For example, we're in nineteen
eighty two. Crack didn't appear until late nineteen eighty five
in most places in the country. Murder, we talk about
murder rates. We had a peak spike in murder in

(47:02):
nineteen eighty again cracked in the period of nineteen eighty five,
and then we had another spike in ninety one. And
sure it might have had something to do with the
crack sort of markets being developed, but not the pharmacological
effects of the drug. Like we tell people, that's that's
what I'm saying. I'm saying that we just need to reevaluate.
But it's developed. The story is developed more in the books,

(47:25):
so I really encourage people to read the book. They
don't move. We got more with Doctor Carhart. When we
come back. It's the Breakfast Club coming morning. Everybody is
DJ Envy, Angela Yee. Charlomagne, the guy we are the
Breakfast Club was still kicking it with Doctor carl Hart.
You talk about you haven't used heroin in over a
year and a half. Yes, Um, of course, the news
made it seem like you use it every day. So

(47:46):
what gets you to the point where you have to
use heroin like it? Is it socially? Is it something
going on in your life? Is it just hanging out
with the boys or you made it sound like smoking
a cigarete let. You said better than doing the line
is what they do. You've also talked about the withdrawal
that you have to go through from that too, which
is not easy. Right, So I'll answer this question. So

(48:08):
one of the things that happens with heroin as well
as some other drugs. Think of antidepressants in the same way.
If you take heroin consecutively for weeks or months, and
then you abruptly discontinue. Your body has grown accustomed to
the drug being in it, and so as a result,
when you abruptly discontinue it, you get withdrawal effects, and

(48:28):
these withdrawal effects can be unpleasant. With alcohol. However, when
you do this with alcohol, you might die. But whereas
with heroin, you can't really die from heroin withdrawal, but
with alcohol withdrawal you can die. So what got you
to the point where you have to use heroin if
you don't use it every day? Like? What is that?
Is it just socially recollection? So I study drugs, right,

(48:50):
and so I want to know everything about every aspect
of what I study. So you used every drug before
us to study? Damn near everyone? Have you? Certainly everyone
that you probably have heard of? That heroin? Well, you know,
I don't. I don't particularly like smoking drugs. You know,
I work out every day, so I like to make

(49:11):
sure my lungs are good, and so I don't inject. No,
I never inject. I mean, I'm back, I'm vain too.
I don't want people looking at me. You don't smoke
and you don't inject house Oh you take it orally? Still? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So, um,
I wanted to know about every aspect of what I do,
and part of that is to actually know something about

(49:33):
the effects. Like if I would have just kind of
believed the narrative, I would believe that heroin wasn't the
most addictive thing that one could do, and one hit
or two hits you're addicted. Just it's just simply not true.
But if you getting to the point where you have
you're going through withdrawals, you've probably done too much. You're
probably abusing it. So somebody who has been on an
antidepressant and then they abruptly discontinue and now they have withdrawal,

(49:56):
we're saying what you were doing about taking that you
can abuse with antidepress as well. That's that's approve of fact.
But you've been taking it to feel better, and then
you can still abuse it. Certainly you can abuse it.
But you're saying it's wrong. I mean this, this is
not inherently wrong. These are just inert substances. We as

(50:16):
humans place all this morality and judgment on this, and
that's part of the problem. And my fear is like
somebody hearing this or reading your book and think it's okay, well,
it's okay. The doctor said it's okay to use drugs
every once in a while. He said, it's not as
it's not bad for me to use drugs. It's just
as bad as as having you know, I can die
the same way from having an orgasm. That's my fear.

(50:37):
When kids hear that, people hear that. Wait, did I
say what you just said? That's what I felt like.
I didn't say, Well, I just want to know what
your message is. Just clear and Plaine, what are you
trying to get across in drug used for growing up?
I'm trying to tell people, for example, people who are
using opioids. I'm trying to say, the risk is really

(50:59):
increased when you use street drugs and not you don't
know what's in it. See if you can get attested.
It's important to know what's in your substance. Uh and so.
And I'm saying to government officials, if you really cared
about your population, you would have these drug checking facilities
where people can submit small samples of their drugs and

(51:20):
have them tested for purity, and then we will know
if it contains any contaminants. I don't think I disagree
with any of that, but I want to know why
not just spend the money and resources on helping people
get clean and providing better opportunities for people and people
are dealing with some type of real trauma, you know,
giving them other methods instead of drug use, because out
of ten when people are on drugs, it's not for recreation.

(51:41):
They're doing it because they're gonna do some type of trauma.
And what he said, you can't go to CVS to
go buy your hero and you can't say, okay, you know,
let me go get a you know, some multious fruit
snacks and let me get the side of heroin. You
can't buy it. So you're telling people to test it.
They're getting it from dealers because you can't buy right,
that's right. So if you're going to get it from
dealers and so forth, make sure you can find some
way to get attested. At what point do you know
you have a problem? At what point do you know? Yeah? Like,

(52:02):
how many times? There's too many times? Don't thank you man,
because we haven't talked about that. We just talked about
the term addiction. So that's a great point. So when
when I'm when I'm talking about the term addiction, I'm
really talking about the American Psychiatric Association sort of definition,
and that is when people have psychosocial disruptions and they're functioning.
That is, they are failing to meet these major obligations,

(52:25):
like they don't come to work, they don't go to school,
they're not engaging in family sort of functions or events
that are important. They're failing all of these sort of obligations.
And the person themselves are disturbed about not meeting these
obligations because if you miss work or you're missing appointments

(52:47):
because you're at home watching porn. They said, that's the
level too, when you know you're addicted dull. Yeah, yeah,
I'm comparing a lot of stuff to heroin and crack.
That is really some false equipment. Yeah, I agree, till me.
Why man, because I think because I could do heroin
once today for the first time, I could do something
today right and literally blow off my family for the

(53:08):
day that one time I blew off my family's appointments,
Does that mean I'm irresponsible to that? I mean I
have a problem. No, No, I mean you are so successful,
all of you, all the likelihood of that happening, I'll
actually stake my life on what if it does no
old man. I'm just saying, the likelihood of that happening
is so low. I mean, you you you're abscribing these

(53:28):
magical properties to heroin that just don't do it once
and die. Well if you do that, because that's certainly
a possibility, right, that's certainly especially because you don't know
what's in it and there's no way to tell, right,
and you don't know what you're doing. And I don't
think you will do that because you have demonstrated all
of this responsibility in your life. What about you said
you've been using heroin for the past five years is

(53:49):
what I read. Yeah, so when did you first start?
Like when didst did you first ever take or hit
a heroin? And why? It might have been now maybe
two two thousand and fifteen. Like I said, I wanted
to know every aspect about what I do, and it
was pharmaceutical grade, not in this country, in a country
where drugs are decriminalized. You did e strictly for research purposes. Yeah, Yeah,

(54:13):
because I wanted to know to make you feel when
you when you first took there first hit, it was
nice and euphoric, chilled, anxiety melts away, scared you wasn't nervous.
You didn't think I might die. So I know what
I'm doing one and I know it's pure, and I
know not to take a large dose oftentimes, like like
right now, we are all encouraged to get the COVID vaccine,

(54:35):
and we all will. But you know, the people who
are getting the vaccine know a lot less about that
than I know about heroin. So you know, so it's
it's more risky for me to take the vaccine than
it is for me to take heroin. That I know
the purity and I know the dose, that's not a

(54:55):
risky proposition for me. The average person doesn't have that knowledge.
You can do these things safely because you've studied it
for thirty years. You know it's pierre, you know where
you're getting it from. You know how much to take.
The average person's coming but you're coming from a place.
You're coming from a place of privilege, because there's plenty
of people in point disenfranchise areas who are going to
who can do heroin or any of these drugs, and
they will get addicted. They're not doing it for rest.

(55:17):
They don't have the luxury of doing it for research purposes.
They're truly trying to escape something. See that. That's why
I wrote the book. I wrote the book to try
to help keep those people safe who will do this anyway.
Have you ever had a bad experience when you took anything,
tried something? I'm sure, Well I'll tell you. Yeah. Yeah.
So there was a time when I wanted to know

(55:37):
what opioid withdrawal was like. So I talked some opioids
for consecutive weeks and abruptly discontinued and I had withdrawal.
I planned it like so it would happen the night
before a big talk, so I could say that, you know,
this is no big deal, so you're able to quit
cold turkey? Oh yeah, yeah I did. That's not everybody

(56:00):
story either, though. You know there are people who use
a lot more than I did in this little experiment,
and they would have a lot more difficult time. You're
absolutely right, the withdrawal would have been a lot worse.
But I wasn't trying to have the worst withdrawal I
could have. All I wanted to do was experience it,
and so I could see what it was like for myself.

(56:21):
That's experience. The worst of that experience was the adapt
abdominal pain. It felt like it was stabbing that radiated
throughout my body, and I have no interest in going
through opioid withdrawal again. Do you enjoy drugs, doctor Carhart?
Do you enjoy drugs? Some drugs? I do? You know?

(56:41):
That's otherwise, why would I engage in an activity that
I don't enjoy. Well, let's bring this home. I agree
on the fact that drugs should be legal. I don't
think people should be going to jail when they have
an actual problem, you know, I agree with that. But
as far as like just encouraging people to do it
recreationally just because they're gonna do it anyway, I'd rather
personally get them some treatment. Personally, I rather think he

(57:03):
was saying that if people who are using it to
be responsible not but he does. I would rather get
those people from treatment as opposed to encouraging them to just,
you know, creating space. Man, you ain't gonna get an
argument for me when you're talking about treatment. Man, I mean,
I'm with you, but that ain't what I'm saying. I'm
not saying, yo, you should go out and do this.
I'm not saying that I'm I'm I'm saying that there

(57:26):
are people doing this and how can I, as a
responsible professional, help enhance the safe Absolutely, and I would,
I would, And I'm saying I would rather get those
same people some help. I'd rather get them clean well,
provide them opportunity as opposed to providing a safe space
for them to continue to do drink well. You know,
I have tried that too, and I mean with relatives

(57:47):
and friends, and they basically said, like it's out to
hear you, pedantic ass, you know, and so uh now
I can't. They don't even talk to me. So there's
no way I can even help because you know, they're
as adults, people will do what they're going to do.
And so I've learned as a parent, you know, my
number one goal is to get my kids home right,

(58:10):
and so they will do their thing, and I have
to figure out how to help them do their thing
as safely as possible and how to make sure they
are good people or Doctor car Hart, we appreciate you
for joining us this morning, telling the title of your
book on More Time Please Drug Used for grown Ups,
Chasing Liberty and the Land of Fear. It was a
great conversation. Thank you for having me I really appreciate it.

(58:33):
I have no problem exchanging I did. Even if we
don't agree on everything, I really appreciate it. How you
don't know how much it mean. But don't you overdose
because I switch to God. If you overdose, I don't
gonna give you the greatest donkey the day I have
ever written in my life. Okay, yo, that's a bat.
All right, well, thank you doctor Carhart for joining us.
Now let's get to the roumas. Let's talk Bobby's murder

(58:55):
the Breakfast Club. Your mornings will never be the same. Listen.
Oh goshorts, it's reports club. Oh my god, what nothing?

(59:16):
No next, next hour, we're taking calls about doctor Carhart's interview.
By the way, Yeah, so you can get on the
phone lines right now eight hundred five, eight five, one
oh five on just your thoughts to the doctor. All
right now, Bobby Schmurder did his first interview since getting
out of prison, and he talked to GQ about what
he learned while he was in jail and what he's
going to be doing next. And he does, by the way,
him and Rowdy Rebels still maintain their innocence on the

(59:38):
conspiracy charge. In particular, saying that they were trying to
link them to crimes they would otherwise have no connection with.
They argue that if they were granted bail and allowed
to fight the case from the outside, they would have
won a trial. Now, Bobby Shmurder said his spirit is
always going to be up. He said, I used to
sleep next to people who had forty to life, people
who have been in there for thirty years and haven't laughed.
I'd have them crying all day. When you got good energy,

(59:59):
no matter where you at, you can bring a smile
to someone's face. And he also said, I'm not saying
jail is not going to break anybody, but usually jail
I don't really care about. Even though I'm locked up
all the time, I still lived good in jail since
I was twelve. He said he knows how to survive.
You get the best treatment in jail when you get
a job. When a shower five times a week, and
said at three, get a job, eat better, get a job,
more phone time, get a job. But he said they

(01:00:20):
kept firing him when they realized he was just doing
it to stay on the phone. He also talks about
his lowest time and the moment that broke him. He said,
it wasn't a fight, or it wasn't solitary. It was
a fan letter. He said. It was twenty sixteen. I
was in the box. A six year old girl wrote
to me. She said I was her favorite rapper. That
just let me know the kids are watching me and

(01:00:40):
I have to be a role model. Suddenly being familiar
enough with jail to rise above it didn't mean so much.
So he does take his career seriously, he said, he
didn't take it that seriously before until he went to jail,
he said, and saw how the fans were loyal. He said,
I can't name a week that I didn't see at
least ten pieces of fan mail throughout the whole bid.
So before he went to jail, he said, he just

(01:01:02):
was doing this money and bitches. He said, I ain't
gonna lie to you. I was nineteen turning twenty, coming
out of East Flappish the nineties, one of the worst
neighborhoods in Brooklyn. You got a moment to sit down
and be still, and I think Ji about to save
this life exactly. Jail time saved his life, and I
think he's gonna be come out a better human because
of it. I think so too. And as you know,
Quavo was there when he got out to pick him up,

(01:01:24):
and you know, they talked about how they had instant
magic when they all first met. He said, whenever the
Megos came to New York City in twenty fourteen, they
made sure to link up a Bobby, like the night
at Powerhouse when Quavo said he met jay Z for
the first time backstage with Rowdy, so they all linked up.
And I actually remember that. I remember that because I
had to go into Megos dressing room to interview them

(01:01:45):
for something for MTV and MTV two, and then Bobby
Him came in there. All right, now, let's talk about
the Coming to Americas sequel. Are y'all ready for this?
You guys saw it already, right, yeah, March fifth on
Amazon Prime. It's coming out. So they've been doing their
interviews now. Our sin of Yohall and Eddie Murphy said
they had a pack to never making Coming to America's sequel,

(01:02:07):
but they did end up doing it. Here's what they
had to say. It took thirty years because we never
planned on doing it. We shook and said, let's never
do a sequel. But the movie kept following us, so
every time I would show him something, and then one
time when he finally decided we should do it, he
came up with the idea and I loved the idea,

(01:02:27):
but the only thing I hated was he wanted Tracy
Morgan to play his son. And I think Eddie and
Tracy look about the same age. But he Murphy. He's
Eddie Murphy. So you have to you have to say
it easy, because I did it in joke for him.
I said, hey, maybe the third one, Morgan Freeman can
be your son. That didn't sound right. That wouldn't have

(01:02:47):
been it all right now. Ryan Kogler also had pitched
Eddie Murphy Coming to America's sequel with Michael B. Jordan
and it and they talked about this with The New
York Times and he said before he directed Black Panther,
I met with him and he says, I want to
do a Coming to America's sequel. That's what Eddie Murphy said.
He said he had an idea from Michael B. Jordan
to play my son and he would be looking for
a wife. I was like, then the movie would be

(01:03:07):
about the son. It's not our characters. We already did that.
It didn't come together. Yeah, I don't understand Eddie's reasoning
for telling people that he didn't like Ryan Coogler's idea.
I mean, Ryan Coogler is one of the most brilliant
producers out here. And it actually wasn't just Ryan Coogler.
It was Ryan Coogler and Aaron McGruder. You know Aaron McGruder,
that that that wrote The Boondogs Black Jesus. So I
don't understand what was his reasoning. What you think about

(01:03:29):
the movie? What you mean, Well, I listen, we got
all send you on the show next week and I'll
talk about the movie after the movie come back, all right,
I haven't seen it. Everybody to make that one decision.
It's a lot of surprises, but I am gonna wat
And that is your Room of Reporter made me feel good.
I thought ill coming to America made me feel good.
Cash your rumor report all right now, Shore giving that

(01:03:51):
donk donkey of the day, it's going to Representative Marcus
Evans Junior. We need him to come to the front
of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him.
He wants to help carjackings in Chicago go down. Okay.
I just don't like the way he's he's going about
trying to do it. But we'll talk about it all right.
And after the Donkey, of course, we'll take your calls.
Eight hundred five eight five, one oh five, we're gonna

(01:04:12):
be talking about doctor Carhart, who just tuned int, who
just joined us, and we're talking about drug use. So
we'll talk to him next night. It's the breakfast local
Botter's time for Donkey other Day. I'm a Democrat, so
being Dunkey of the day is a little bit of
a mixed up. So like a dog the other day. Now,

(01:04:38):
I've been called a lot in my twenty three years,
like Donkey other day is a new wife. Yesh Donkey
today for Friday, February twenty six. Goals of the Representative
Marcus Evans Junior, a Democrat, who was introduced to bill
that would amend the pre existing law banning certain video
games from being sold to minors. Now, I'm not a
video game fanatic at all, so I couldn't tell you

(01:04:59):
why certain video games shouldn't be sold to minors. I
do remember about a decade ago when the Supreme Court
was debating if violent video games should be sold to
minors or not. And Representative Marcus Evans junior amendment is
in that lane because he would ban the sale of
games with subject matter including motor vehicle theft with a
driver or passenger. President. Basically, he wants to get Grand

(01:05:22):
Theft Auto to f out of here. Why because carjackings
among young people have gone up in Chicago recently. Let's
go to KTLAC W five for the report. Please Illinois
State Representative Marcus Evans Junior, who introduced a bill which
would ban the sale of popular video game Grand Theft Auto,
amongst others, in response to a rise in carjackings in Chicago.
People in government or parent groups are kind of looking

(01:05:44):
for what I would say is a scapegoat to not
deal with the real underlying issues of socio economic inequalities
or mental health issues. I agree, I agree with whoever
that woman was talking. Just now, let me tell lawmakers
in Cargo something. Can kids be influenced by things? Absolutely? Music,
video games, movies, other people? Of course, Do I think

(01:06:06):
Grand Theft Auto is the reason carjackings of going up
in Chicago? Hell No, I don't. Okay, It's like damn
lawmakers read the room. The reason crime is going up
across the country, not just in Chicago. It is because
the poor and disenfranchise communities which were already hurting, which
already lacked resources, which alread lacked opportunities. Those communities or
even in worse shape now. So I'm looking at all
these news stories about the Illinois lawmakers seeking the banned

(01:06:29):
Grand Theft Auto due to a rising carjacking carjackings, and
it makes me shake my head and realize just how
much folks don't get it. See, we really live in
an era where people want symbolic change instead of real
systemic change. Okay, Grand Theft Auto gets banned, then what
tell me how is that going to empower and heal people?
How is that going to provide opportunities to thrive? The

(01:06:51):
violence anywhere it is not going down if you don't
provide access to jobs in housing, that's what people need,
stable housing and amenities and commerce opportunities. Those are the
investments that need to be made. You have to revitalize
neighborhood economies. Okay, markets, I'm not telling you anything. You
don't know. You know that, Okay, you should be advocating
for equity focused legislation and policy. That's what people need,

(01:07:14):
not bands of grand theft auto. Come on, Marcus, the
wages are too low, right, There's a lack of quality healthcare,
some standard housing, all right for kids who want to
pursue higher education, they aren't able to because college tuition
too damn high and rising. Those are the problems that
most Americans facing. You know, black communities face them even more. Okay,
f banning grand theft auto, raising minimum which the fifteen

(01:07:36):
thousand an hour, all right, make college affordable for anyone
who wants to attend. I require local government to provide
healthcare and adequate housing for everybody, okay. Instead of banning
grand theft auto, as the great Alicia Guards of Black
Futures Lab says, if candidates lawmakers address the needs and
concerns of black communities that were resulting dividends for all Americans.
Markets if you address the real needs and concerns of

(01:07:57):
the black communities in Chicago and the communities in Chicago
that you need it, it will result in dividends for
all of Illinois. Okay. I want this idea of banning
grand theft auto to die. And instead of a cheat
code for unlimited guns lawm because in Chicago, she create

(01:08:18):
a cheat code for unlimited funds to be invested in
the communities that need them. That's how you slow down
Carl Jackings and every other violent crime, not only in
Chicago but across the country. Please uh, let Representative Marcus
Evans Junior get the sweet times in the hammertones. Oh
now you are the doge the day, the dogee, oh

(01:08:46):
the day. Ye all right, thank you for that today?
Can some I want one of y'all to do your
uncle Shaulttle favor. Can you send me up from church fans.
I want the old school church fans that I might
used to use when she used to be in the
pew fan in herself, because around ate something every morning
in this room for the past couple of months. That hot.

(01:09:09):
Oh all right, well, thank you for that donky. Today,
when we come back, let's open up the phone lines
eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. We're
talking doctor Karl Hart. Now he was on earlier. A
lot of people have different things to say about his
opinion on drug use and what he had to say
about drug use. People they have this idea of someone
who uses heroin and some poor soul who is injecting

(01:09:32):
the drug and it's a slave to the drug, and
they think that heroin is the reason for that person's problem.
The person's problem is not so much heroin as everything else,
like the person might have co occurring psychiatric illnesses. I
always say, people say, well, I'm chasing that high I
got the first time that I use it is real,
It's certainly true. Like just think of the first time

(01:09:52):
you enjoyed and the orgasm. It's like it was amazing
for me the first time. It's like, am I chasing
the first time I had an orgasm? No, of course not,
but old door, I don't that feeling. I like that
orgasm can't kill me. The orgasm can't kill me. You
certainly can't get kill all right, Well, let's open up
the phone lines and eight hundred five A five one
oh five one day, we're opening up the phone lines.

(01:10:17):
Let's talk about it. We'll take your calls when we
come back. It's the breakfast Club. Go morning, the breakfast Club.
It's topic time. Thus the phone called eight hundred five
A five one oh five one to join it to
the discussion with the breakfast club. Talk about it morning.
Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We

(01:10:41):
are the breakfast clubs, So we're just opening up the
phone lines talking about the doctor that called earlier talking
about drug use. What do you guys think? Star? What
you ye? I mean? I understand, And he was stressing
that he was not telling people to use drugs. He
was saying, for people that do use drugs, they're gonna
do it anyway, just like a lot of people do
things you know you shouldn't do, but it does still
have appens. So how do you make it safer for
people to do it? They didn't make me want to

(01:11:03):
try drugs or want to use heroin or anything like that,
but I understand that a lot of times people are
mixing different cocktails together of different drugs, and people are
also not knowing what they're taking because they're buying it
off the street, so it just makes it more dangerous.
It didn't sound like it to me. I mean, him
saying that he used drugs and he wasn't addicted makes
it kind of seem like it's okay in what he said.

(01:11:24):
I'm from a different school. I know there's some parents
out there that be like, hey, my kids are gonna
drink anywhere I rather than drinking the house. I'm not
that parent. My parents weren't that parents. My parents were. No,
you're not drinking, and you're not drinking in my house.
And if I catch you drinking, I'm gonna bust your ass.
That's the way I am. You're not drinking in my house.
Some parents allowed at Hey, if you're gonna drink your muthers,
drink anywhere, my parents will let me drink with them.
See that's your parents, not mine. Now that's how I feel.

(01:11:46):
My thing is no, drug use is not good at all.
I don't want to promote it. I don't want to
talk about it. I tried it, or use it. Or
you can be in a walking heroin fiend. No, that
doesn't work, that doesn't that doesn't sound good to me.
Don't use drugs. I don't want my kids they're drugs.
It's bad. I don't want you to try it, even weed. Kids.

(01:12:07):
Don't want them using any drugs. We're talking about heroin, man,
you know what I'm saying. And here's the thing with
doctor Carhart. I feel that all drugs should be decriminalized.
I don't want to see people going to jail for addiction.
If you have a problem with heroin, if you have
an addiction problem with crack, addiction problem with meth. I
don't think you should go to jail for that. You should,
you know, get help. And I don't think we should

(01:12:28):
create safe spaces to do drugs. I think we should
invest resources and the people going to rehab, people seeking treatment,
and provide opportunities for them. You know, I'm a big
advocate for mental health and mindfulness, and there's a lot
of other ways to deal with your trauma other than
telling people to turn the drugs. But let's go to
the phone lines. Hello, who's this Hi? This is Dana
from for News Heza from the seven five seven? What

(01:12:49):
were your thoughts? Um? I think that what he's saying
is very irresponsible, um, because everybody doesn't have the luxury
of getting their drugs from eating. What is he expecting
people to go out here and buy heroin and take
it to the police station and be like, hey, can
you touch my trugs? It's illegal? You know, So there

(01:13:10):
is no safe way to do heroin here in America.
And if that's the message that he's trying to put out,
is that there is a safe way if the government
puts certain things in place, and let that be the message.
But don't go out here promoting that there's a safe
way to do this in America, because not everybody who

(01:13:31):
does drugs are doing them because their life is the
goal and they're trying to escape their problems. A lot
of this starts out as just fun, you know, but
at parties and doing things, and so somebody may be
listening to this guy right now thinking their life is fine,
but they're curious about what he's saying, and they try

(01:13:51):
it and die that bad because the way he talks
and makes it seem like it's not that bad. But
that's not the heroin out scene when I'll be when
I'll be buying these cribs. And that's not how my
uncle od it was back But I told him that.
I told him that, you know, his his perspective was
coming from a real place of provoge. Hello, who's this

(01:14:12):
ain't Travis, what's going on? What do you think of
the doctor? Man? I just want to say, I've had
fool when the first friends died from overdose in the
past year a year and a half, and I'm talking
about people that were very respectable people until they decided
to start using paying pills and here I went, and
then they completely changed these people. What's the drug you started?
They were no longer to save people that I knew

(01:14:33):
in love and respected. They lied, they cheated, they did
anything to get this wrong and and I just watched it.
You know, over two years, they completely became somebody else.
For him to say that it's not the drugs, that
it's their personality had the vibe. Man, these drugs is
killing people. Thank you, bro Grey. Hello, who's this? I

(01:14:55):
think it's Ashley from Jack and Little Florida nine four
nine o four was happening and as I love you
guys back. So what's your thoughts on the doctor that
called in from Florida? My thought is, guys, yo, are
so well dj n V. I know you have your
stands on the drug you can, Chalomagne, I know you're
with therapy. But he was trying to get out that

(01:15:18):
he's not promoting drugs. He's just saying for those who
are gonna quit against therapy altogether, especially our black community
who was against therapy, you just have to safely music.
Y'all didn't really let them talk until the end. Well,
can I ask you a question, where's the safe space
with people to do that? In Americaould you take your
drugs to the police station to have them tested? You know,
that's why he said we should build some other countries

(01:15:39):
that different thoughts. You know, our country is our country.
You're saying, you're seeing it work in other places, and
so something like that could be implemented here. Instead of
always trying to demonize these people who are addict and
calling them fiends and crackheads, I think we should I
think instead of creating the safe spaces, we shouldn't invest
resources and the people going to rehab. We should invest
resources in the people seeking treatment and provide opportunities for them.

(01:16:01):
But what do we do with the people who say no,
our older generation is against all of that. Man, you
could do both. You could invest more money into that
and also have resources where if they are going to
continue to do it, at least don't die from something
that's not what you think it is. Exact Man, I'm
not incurring nobody to do heroin. I'm not occouraging doesn't exactly.
I'm so what about the people that are using it? Just?

(01:16:22):
I mean, that's all you can do if they don't
want to get out, if they don't want to get help,
prey for them. Yeah, I mean I want any leave them,
but it's not going any well. You said just help them,
they need help, But I don't want to encourage anybody
else to get on her at all. All right, eight
hundred five eight five one oh five one, let's talk
about it. It's a breakfast club. Good morning, call me

(01:16:51):
and your opinions to the breakfast club to come on
five one morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne
the guy. We are the breakfast club with taking your
calls on the doctor that just called about drug use,
doctor Carl hard he was up here, Yeah he's here.
But like my opinion, I think that nobody should be

(01:17:12):
used in heroin, Like I understand that scenes. I think
they should be in cigarettes. If they're telling you cigarettes
causes cancer and cancer kills you, why are we allowing
people are smoking. I don't think people should eat only
I don't think people should eat red meat. The only
thing I agree with doctor Carl Hard on is that
drugs should be decriminalized. That should be the message, because
I don't want to see people going to jail because

(01:17:33):
they have addiction problems. Correct, is a level one carcinogen
and we sell that and eat it. I mean, if
something I think we can, if it's guaranteed that something
can kill you, like cigarettes, like heroin ken and it's
so addictive. No, I'm not going to encourage nobody to
ever use it and say it's okay or it's fine.
That's just my opinion. But let's go to the phone lines. Hello,

(01:17:53):
who's this Hey, good morning? What were your thoughts on
the doctor the car? I get I get it that
he said he wants the kids to come home. I
get that part. Everybody's gonna try it, But I don't
agree with him when he said, oh go get it tested.
How many attics you know we're going to be able

(01:18:14):
to go out there, boy, purchase your drugs and then
go get it tested. No, they want they fix. Then
they don't want to wait and try to get it
pursas they want it. Then I guess work in other countries.
But Haroin is too much of a monster drug, y'all.
This is Harold. That's something that helped me. Laughing, he said,

(01:18:36):
how he quit opious just like that. That wasn't his drug.
But I bet you he can't quit it, have one
just like that exactly said he hasn't taken it in
a year and a half. I don't believe him. No,
I don't believe that. Well, thank you mama. Hello, who's
this us? Hey Russell? What's what's your opinion on the doctor?
Doctor car Hard? That just checked him? Um? I think
the quest man, I think he just like old old

(01:19:00):
old juses, just trying to justify his ju because for
him to see to destroy our communities, and it's crazy.
I've been around. I'm sixty one, I've been around. I've
seen him just uh the boys coming home from Vietnam
all messed uff and and uh the hall in the
eighties besides Southside Jamaica. It's tore us apart. Man. But

(01:19:26):
for him to say that, Hello, who's this anonymous? Hey anonymous,
what are your thoughts on the doctor? Um? I felt
that I understood what he was saying. I showed that
there are functional drug users out here. And like I
told other guy at the port, I told him I'm
not a drug user, but I year around who who's

(01:19:47):
you know? And I've been around people who you I
hear that in your voice. Now I hear that eight
four three, so I know you ain't lying, and yes
he's for three, but anyway, it's so. But what I'm
saying is, you know what I mean. I see people
who are judges, politicians, lawyers, doctors who fullhard Friday when
they get off work bullheard Saturday, and then my days

(01:20:08):
right back at work and doing their dream. So I've
seen something drug users. But then i'd also been decided
that y'all work for treeing, like the people who's coming
to their MoMA house seeing in the TV went all
of that TWA gets there high. So I see both sides.
But it seemed like initially in his interview and seemed
like y'all were kind of going hard attacking him. But
I felt what he was saying in with yawin things

(01:20:31):
also too. It's not just drugs, it's Harold Wing right,
And I get that and see the thing. It's like, okay,
you know me and I'm being a drug user. It's
like I think the heroine. I think you're putting on
your arms, but like I have family members who fail
and they're like no, it's in like a bull form,
now you know what I mean? Like where as these

(01:20:52):
kids out here pumping and posing stuff there, I'm pumping
heroin as still, So it's not even in a neuti
formal one told I've seen young people twenty year old
and they're saying like, oh, yeah, he's on heroin, And
I'm like, in a way, like you look at them
and you can't even tell they're on herowin. But it's
like heroin has seen the form now, so when we
think of it, we're thinking of the form of you
putting you on your arm of girls. But eventually it

(01:21:15):
catches up. And last year actually was the highest opioid
overdose rate ever. But eventually that lifestyle catches up. And
I just don't understand anyone who's actually seen dopage, who's
actually seen heroin uses, what it does to a person,
what it does to a community. I don't understand how
you can encourage anyone to do heroin. Yeah, Mine comes
from a different place. Mine comes from a close family

(01:21:35):
member that odd and died and I'll never get back
from drugs. Mine comes from a place of me investing
in real estate in Patterson in Atlantic City and walking
into these houses and seeing heroin addicts and fiends and
stuck and know that and having conversations with them and
telling me that they can't get help, that they've tried,
They've been to rehab so many different times, but they

(01:21:55):
just can't kick it. And they came from good families
and their families to try to save them all, you know,
over and over and over again. But they got to
stay in these areas because they got to buy their drugs.
They got to be able to use their drugs. And
how sad that is. And I never would want my
family member, my child, never a friend or anybody on
something that's dependent where they're living in the slums, no heat,

(01:22:17):
no air conditioner, you know, no water, no nothing, just
to get these drugs. Now I was paying my mother
had to deal with because her brother passed away from
the old d And I would never tell anybody, Oh,
being a functional a drug user, it's okay, No, that's
my opinion. If y'all don't like it, that's me. I
don't want my kids, I don't want my family members.
I don't want anybody using those hardens. I know in

(01:22:39):
the future I'm gonna have a drink with my children.
I know in the future I might even do. I'm
not smoking weak with my children. I ain't doing no heroin.
You know what I'm saying. I'm smoking no crack, that's me.
I'm not doing no coke. I'm not doing no hero
no crack. I'm not doing opioids. I'm not I'm not
doing none of that. That's for me. I'm not doing ecstasy.
That's just me. I don't want to. That's me personally.
I see the effects of it on family and friends,

(01:23:00):
and I just don't want to be The more of
the story is, I do feel that all those drugs
should be decriminalized. I don't want to see people going
to jail for addiction, but I want to see people
get help. I don't want to create safe spaces so
they can do their drugs. We should invest resources in
the people going to rehab, seking treatment, and providing better
opportunities for them. I agree with that as well. I
don't understand how somebody that's addicted to heroin could get
locked up. If they're addicted to it, they get help.

(01:23:23):
All right, Well, we got rumors all the way. Yes,
we are going to talk about a new group that
Bruno Mars and Anderson pad Hat formed. All right, we'll
get into that. Next, It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning.
It's a breakfast club. We're like morning. Everybody is j Envy,
Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
Good morning. What's happening? Okay, Yeah, talking to the mic, bro,

(01:23:46):
are you gonna hear me? No? No, what's happening. Let's
get to the rumors. Just's talking to music. This is
the Rumor Report with Angela Yee Breakfast Clubs. But here
is just a sampling of some things that are out today.
Bryson Tiller put out the Anniversary Deluxe album. Also, Chloe

(01:24:10):
and Halley gave out some mection music too with their
un Godly Hour Chrome Edition. Also Currency Collection Agency. Page
Kennedy put out his new project Today. Also Paige and
then Pop Smoke has a new single, and that's from
the Boogey movie. It's called ap Look eighteen Albus, checking

(01:24:32):
my Knife Plight Spicy Albus and checking my Knife Plights
to be nice. I'm making nice, all right. That's just

(01:24:52):
some samples of things that are out today. Young Blue
has new music out with Coy Larey. Also today, Thieves
in Atlanta. Of course, all right, Na mister potato Head
is now gender neutral. People have all kinds of jokes
now on social media. Somebody said from stud to spud,
so they said they're renaming the toy line, though not
the individual toys themselves. I know people thought it was

(01:25:13):
just going to be a gender neutral potato Head, but
now there's still mister potato Head, there's still Missus potato Head,
but the line of products is called potato Head. Who
complained about this, who said that this is something people
want it because aren't all potato heads neutral as soon
as you just removed the parts. That's why they come
with accessories, right, Yes, I don't know this. Yeah, if

(01:25:33):
I put eyes in the nose on it, it could
be whatever. It could be whatever they want everybody to
feel included. So they're promoting gender equality and enclosure. Potatoes
don't have gender Listen. And here's the thing too, I
don't see no mister potato head all missus potato head
that come with Peter, not at all. They had like
the mustache, and I guess that's fine, but that's not genitalia. Yeah,

(01:25:58):
but they still exist. Mister potato Head it's still there,
and Missus potato Head is still there. It's just called
potato heads. All right, man, listen, all you woke people
need some sleep. It's all right. When you when you
stay up too long, you get tired, you start making
really silly choices, all right, Chelsea Hannah. A happy birthday
to her. She's forty six years old, and to celebrate,
she was skiing naked. I don't know if you guys
saw that, but she also put out an inspiring message.

(01:26:20):
I'm grateful to be able to appreciate so much Canadian beauty.
She's in Canada working. Coming to Canada for winter on
a work visa and following all the mandatory quarantine rules
has exposed me to some of the most beautiful pieces
of nature I have ever seen. This is the place
that made me fall in love with skiing, fall in
love with the mountains, and appreciate that Mother Nature is
always in controlling, that we must respect her and we
must respect each other. Yeah. I agree with all that,

(01:26:41):
But when I saw that picture, all of her, with
my daddy voice in my headset, that's how you get
nem on you in yass, right there, That's exactly how
you get nem on you in yass. All right now,
Bruno Mars and Anderson Pack. I've announced a new band
called Silk Sonic. According to them, they locked in and
made an album. So they've already completed an album that
does feature Bootsy Islands and the first single we'll be

(01:27:01):
coming out next week on Friday with the Fan. Come
on with the fan? Now, everybody can hear you? Fan? Man?
They can't. You're just looking at me. They don't hear nothing.
I will say this though, that Anderson Pack Bruno Mars album.
I don't want to have no expectations, but on paper,
that sounds amazing combinations. That's an amazing combination. Anderson Packing,
Bruno Moss. All right, now, did you know, since we're

(01:27:23):
talking about that, that same date, March fifth, that's also
when the Coming to America movie is coming out on
Amazon Prime and Eddie Murphy's real life daughter is actually
in the movie. Did y'all know that I the middle one.
I think she's an actual daughter she played in real life. Yeah,
so here he is talking about this on Good Morning America.
She's a good little actress and she's been serious about

(01:27:45):
it for a while. There are no words or how
proud I am of my daughter and what a great
job she did, and she auditioned for the role and
she she got the role herself. Yeah, I don't know what.
I don't know if she's the middle daughter or the
oldest one in the movie, because he got three daughters
in the movie. I don't remember. All right, Well, that
is your rumor report. All right, you hear my fan

(01:28:06):
for him? Yes, we can hear your fan. This is
flaming Rose fan, flaming role. That's why I says, uh
fan the flame, my guy, flaming my people, flaming row. Yes,
my people. Um but I want a church fanom so
please still send your church fans up here. You look
like a grandma in church right now. I don't have
no problem with that. I love grandmother in church. Dropping
the clues bomb for all the grandma that go to

(01:28:28):
church on Sunday. I can literally be is the old
as a grandma in church. And to have that kind
of women experience, I will take it, all right, Okay,
all right, well, thank you for that rumor report. Up
next is the People's Choice mix, get your request and revolt.
We'll see you on Monday, everybody else, and also don't
forget you know sees it and I I think season
will be up here the next couple of weeks. He
just dropped a new book, so make sure you pick

(01:28:48):
up sees this book. It's called Flipping Keys. Kat e
y s. I was like, wow, flipping keys the whole
drug thing today. Damn well, that ain't what I mean.
Keys's about you real estate. It's about real estate. So
check it out. You hear his story, and then we're
gonna be in Atlanta, I think in two weeks doing
one of our seminars, trying to teach the community how

(01:29:09):
to purchase that first home. You should just stay in
Atlanta once you go down there for All Star, y'all,
just stay y'all out done, then stay there. I don't
want to see you for twenty thirty days, okay, because
you're gonna need quarantine. Quarantine quarantine quarters can't fly in
my first shot. I took my first shot at the
VACCINEE you did, you did? When you get the second one,
when they take the trash out again, that TV so
you can get the second one. That's how you got
the first one. They took the trash out and he

(01:29:30):
was throwing it out. That's well, yeah, I mean, well
they have the vaccine and somebody didn't show up for
their appointment and I was there, so I got the shot. Okay,
So when did they take the trash out again? You
get your second shot about three full weeks. We're monitoring
your bed too, Broy, because if that Beijing starts to
come out of your throat, something wrong. Shout to Kevin
Hard shout the DJ. Call my brother Rick a snitch?

(01:29:52):
Did he? And I want to be shouted out? Shot out?
Just shouting my people's out there. I want to be
shouted out, y'all. You want to be the Beijing boy's
so bad? What are you talking? You're trying to do.
You're trying to as symbol coalition of brothers who used that.
Damn die. I don't keep trying to be but Yo.
Shout to my brother Kevin Harkalig, Wow did he Ross?
I see our brothers out there. Man, have a great weekend.

(01:30:13):
Let's get to mix. You gonna do an album? Did
never be the same morning? Everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Ye,
Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, this
is the last Black History Month that we do in
this month. Dam Black History Month will be over after
this hum Well, I mean, the beauty of it is
we black. So we celebrate our history every day, all day, absolutely, okay,

(01:30:35):
But today's Black History Month legend. The last one of
the month is the great Barry White. Okay? Who was
Barry White? Barry White was an American singer songwriter, a
brother who had a voice like none other. If he
was born in the late seventies, you know, eighties, it's
a great chance. Your daddy released all his ancestors into
your mother while Barry White was the soundtrack. Okay, ask them.
Can't get enough of your love, baby, never never gonna

(01:30:57):
give you up. You're the first to last my everything.
Come on, now, let's hear a little, quick, little compilation.
You know what I mean of that? That base baritone
voice that Barry had. Yeah, and you lay down the

(01:31:17):
next never gonna give you about the way about a man.
Incredible records. But the thing I love about Barry White
wasn't just his music. It was his wisdom. And one
of my favorite moments was a conversation he had on

(01:31:37):
the Arsenio Hall Show where he spoke on the power
that we possess. Let's listen. The Breakfast Club presents a
New Black History Month legend. You know, people tend to
play down our power or don't worry about it. This
next guy do it, unless that's God above to do it.

(01:31:58):
There's a lot of things has to change on this
planet Earth that only we can change. And until we
embrace the fact that we are as powerful as we
are as beings, we're gonna continue to make the mistakes
and allow the mistakes to be made, from our children,
to our doubts, to our elderly, to whatever situation you

(01:32:21):
want to talk about. And that was another New Black
History Month legend, the courtesy of the Breakfast Club. Long
Live Barry White Man. All right, now when we come back,
we got the positive notes, so don't move. It's to
Breakfast Club. Good morning, morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee,
Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

(01:32:43):
It's time to get up out here. Charloman, you got
a positive note. Yeah, man, Since it's the last day
of Black History Month, man, why not you know, talk
about black power? Okay, black power? Two quotes about black
power from Stokely car Michael, one from Huey Newton. First, Stokely,
black power can be clearly defined mind for those who
do not attach the fears of white America to their

(01:33:03):
questions about it. Hughie P. Newton, black power is given
power to people who have not had power to determine
their destiny. Breakfast club is y'all finish or y'all dumb.

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