February 26, 2021 • 29 mins
The problems with the Seahawks offense and why Pete Carrol should be more criticized
The chances of Deshaun Watson getting traded
Guests: Eric Mangini, Jason McIntyre
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Super Bowl rings with the Patriots, and he's not as
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big on Russell Wilson as I am. He's not. I
don't know what it is. I don't know you know
these these He's a defensive coach, so he wants conservative play.
I like my quarterbacks. I don't have a problem with interceptions.
Just makes luck to a lot of interceptions. I'm okay
Brady's thrown pick Sixes and Super Bowls. I'm okay with it.
I don't like safe guys, So let's get Eric Mangini
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on here. So I think we should change the saying
in Seattle from from let Ross cook to put some
heat on Pete and get rid of that outdated offense.
But you've always been a little critical of Russell Wilson. Well,
first of all, I think that's a little unfair depiction
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of how I feel about Russell Wilson. But I don't
really understand where his dissatisfaction is coming. I know Brian Schottenheimer,
the offensive coordinator he had, he's my offensive coordinator in
New York. He was gonna let Russell Wilson have a
ton of impact on the game plan. And look the
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way it is, quarterbacks have a huge impact on the
game plan, and then when you have a great quarterback,
they have even more impact on the game plan. So
now I know the new group that's that's in there,
they're great guys. They'll let Russell have an impact on
the game plan. They've won. He's won over nine games
a year every year since he's been there. And what's
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what's his unhappiness? Well, what problem does he have? They
were twelve and four last year. I don't get why
he has his frustration with Pete. Well, I mean, he's
been sacked four hundred times in nine years, an NFL record,
So I think what he's looking at is going, I'm
getting hit a lot. Well, well, here's what I'll say
about that is when when you have it makes something happen.
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Quarterback who's going to move around the pocket. The offensive
line has a spot where they think the quarterback is
going to be. When you change that spot, the offensive
line is put into a bad situation. They can't see
the D line can no one else helps decrease sacks.
Running the ball, and when you don't want him run
the ball, you're probably gonna get sacked at a higher percentage.
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But he has responsibility for those things as well. And
he's made a lot of great plays, but that comes
with a higher percentage of sex. That's that's not on
the all on the old line, that's his responsibility too.
My guess is he doesn't get traded. But is there
one that you look out of the four and think
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that's probably the best fit for him. Yeah. As I
look at those teams, I like him. In Dallas, they
bring back almost everybody offensively, I think they lose. They've
got one guy on the offensive line who's a free agent,
and you're in a division where there's no elite quarterback.
You have the furthest chance to improve the team or
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the six and ten last year, and he brings something
totally different to that equation than Dak does. He's so
much more mobile than Dak. He's so much better at
creating off timing plays. I think that would be a
really good spot form especial sleek considering the division. All right,
if you ran the Houston Texans today. So the general
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rule in sports is if a star tellers that they
want out, your best to get it done behind the scenes.
When they go public, especially if they have a no
trade clause, it can really limit a team. And I
said this earlier. I went back to lou Al Cinder
with Milwaukee was an unbelievable player out of UCLA. He
went to dinner with the team and said, I don't
want to stay, and they got a haul from the Lakers.
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Paul George went public in Indie, they got nothing. He
went private and Oklahoma City and I want out. They
got fire players in the Great Point guard. Generally you
want to get if a star says I'm not playing,
make calls and get it done, so they don't go
out there and tell everybody you're not going to come back.
But that's done, as they say, the horses out of
the barn. On that with all the information out there,
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now you ran the Texans, what would you do with
Deshaun Watson. Well, there's an issue here, and Deshaun said
that loyalty is everything. I'm sure from an ownership perspective,
you're looking at it as I drafted you in the
first round, I extended you two years prior to when
I needed to give you one hundred and seventy million dollars,
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and you know, you talk about loyalty, that there's been
loyalty from an organizational standpoint, and I know there's some
frustration with what happened with JJ Watt, but JJ is
at the end of his career and he's not a
quarterback in his prime who's as good as Deshaun. As
it's it's apples to oranges. I don't think there's any
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thought organizationally to trade him. I think the fact that
they're not taking calls and they're doing what they're doing.
They're they're dug in and this is gonna have to
get ugly on Deshaun's part for him to move the
dial here. I believe what they're saying in Houston that
they're not going to trade him, And why would you,
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why would you ever want to move him? Yeah, so Brady.
I just saw a story this morning that Brady is
going to take another pay cut in Tampa. So you
know it's funny. So you were there early. I don't remember.
I don't remember his first ten years talking about Tom
Brady money. I don't even know how it went. You
probably recall it. Go back to his first ten years,
his first couple of contracts. Did he take the max
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he could get? Ben No, And that's one of the
things that you love about time. You look at him
now and you say, okay, he's not going to take
that the top dollars, and he said, okay, he's got
a lot of money, he's got a lot of success.
That makes sense. But that's how Tom always has been.
Like Tom, even from a very early age, understood that
the more that he gets, the less the people around
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him can get, and the less they can improve the team.
And he was willing. He was willing to do that.
The greatest story about Tom is when he first got famous,
he got a commercial. I think it was a vs.
Yes Basic card. Yeah. One of the things that he
demanded was that his offensive being the commercial with him.
He wanted to make sure that those guys got a
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chance to get a little bit of a taste, that
those guys got some recognition. There's not many stars that say, Okay,
I'm I'm not making a lot of money. I was
a six round draft pick. I'm finally getting a chance
to get endorsements. But hold on, I want to give
part of it to my offensive line. That's how how
he's wired, and he's done it forever, and so you
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may look at it now and be a little bit
cynical because of how much he has, but this is
this is who he is and everybody around him. You know,
you look at that and it makes sense for you
to make some sacrifices. Yeah, so I'm gonna you used
to coach the Jets. I want to throw my theory
at you. Okay, I love your theories. Now, they're not,
as Joyce says, they're not conspiracy theories. They're just my theories.
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So I run the Jets today, which is my dream job.
By the way, I'd hire you back. By the way,
if if I was the Jets, you bet, Yeah, thanks
for doing a lot of games. So I would stay
with Sam Darnold for this reason. So I'm gonna draft
a Mountain West quarterback. I gotta face Belichick twice a year.
Best defensive coach ever, Brian Flores, who looks like a
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rock star defensive coach, Sean McDermott, as you well know,
very well respected as a defensive coach. Okay, So I've
got six games a year in division with a rookie quarterback,
with the best three of the top four defensive coaches
in football, maybe the top three. I gotta be honest
with you, I would keep Darnald. I would get what
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I could get for the second pick, which includes, you know,
I could get maybe a draft picks and a player
actually a corner and solve that issue. I can make
a compelling argument, is I don't want to go back
to a rookie quarterback in that division with all those
defensive coaches. Your thoughts, Yeah, I think you have to
look at it as not being rookie or not rookie,
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but being whether or not what he's done to this
point has been underachieving. And you know, we saw Tanahell
with Adam Gayson. He went somewhere different and things change,
and maybe this is the same situation for Donald. But
to have that that pick and be able to trade
it back for not just draft capital this year, but
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draft capital moving forward. If you feel like Sam Darnald
can improve on what he's done, it makes It makes
all the sense in the world. You can you can
dramatically change the team by by gathering those draft picks,
both short term and long term. Now, the issue I
had with Donald is that that fifty fifty touchdown the
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interception ratio, he's close to that. He was kind of
that way in college and you haven't seen a lot
of prigress now. That scares you. With the volume of
defensive coordinators that we talked about and how good they are,
and they've got more and more of a book on
him every year that he plays, well, it's pretty smart there.
I like that argument. That's a pretty good argument. They
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have more of a book on him. Okay, it's pretty good.
That made sense that that works through. And and here's
the other thing I'd say is, if there's a quarterback
that you believe can can truly be a franchise quarterback,
and you've got a guy that you're uncertain on, you
gotta take a chance on the quarterback. You know, hopefully
you won't be drafting in the spot that the Jets
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are drafting in, you know, anytime soon. But if that
guy's there and you're you're you feel strongly about him,
regardless of who you have, you gotta make that move.
Did you ever draft a quarterback? I drafted Kellen Clemens
in the second round. He I think he ended up
playing eleven or twelve years in the league. Um didn't
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didn't quite get to where we want him to get to,
but he had a long, long career. I know I
saw him. You'd you'd love the guy. Oh, I know.
I saw him in high school Bend, Oregon. He was
dad was a rancher. He played safe. It was an
all state safety. He was tough as a five dollars steak.
Tough kid. I love it. Tough great kid, great career. Yep. Yeah,
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Oregon people are all nice people. That's where I'm from mostly,
you know, well, I mean there are Eric Mangini. Good
talking you good, Dack nic Com all right. I actually
watched Kellen Clemens in his state. He was good. He
was tough. When your dad's a rancher, yeah, okay, you're
you know you're basically yeah, he was. He was. It
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was funny because I it's funny that he drafted him,
because I remember used to work for a guy that
was a huge Jets fan, and uh he asked me
about him, and I'm like, I love him. But he
was a classic example of he was really really athletic,
but didn't have didn't have a great supportism most of
his career, bounced around, didn't quite have the arm um.
It was weird. So I lived in a state of Oregon, tiny,
tiny state, three million people. One of the years I
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let this is the most bizarre. I couldn't never get
over this. We had three of the four best high
school quarterbacks in the country in Oregon. We had a
kid named Derek Anderson he played in the pros, Kellen Clemens,
and a kid named Nick Costa who went to University
of Arizona. They were three of the top four. What
are the chances that would be like Rhode Island having
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three of the four best baseball prospects in America, and
I watched them all playing high school. And that's the
end of the story. It's not much more than that.
Joy with the news. No, no, this is the Oh,
it's a stunning summers, amazing just even flying in past
mount Hood. The summers are amazing in Portland, Central Oregans
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even prettier. It's on my list. So Tom Brady underwent
knee surgery earlier this month pretty quietly. Actually. Bruce Arians
initially said it was just a clean up, but other
reports claimed the procedure was a little bit more serious
than that, and now Arians is giving a timeline for
Brady's recovery. He said Brady should be ready for seven
on seven field work around June. Oh, that sounds like
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a little bit of an old man knee scope. Yes,
knee scopes happen a lot, do they. But well, I
mean you gotta you know, you gotta go in there
and clean stuff up. What do you mean clean don't
have bad knees, so this is not you have bad knees.
I have one bad knee, so you have to clean out.
I mean, I don't do anything that requires any kind
of this kind of level of physical activis I go
on a long walk, it's it's uh, it's good. I
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mean there's like CARDI lit. I don't know. I'm not
a doctor. They just go in there. There's like cartilage
and scar tissue and stuff that you know, sometimes to
clean out. Um I imagine, again, not a doctor. So
I have absolutely no idea how this stuff works. But
you did that, uh Grasston stuff. I did that. Yeah,
I did that with my knee too. So that's really
good for breaking up scar tissue. But obviously there's more
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advanced than that what needed to be done. UM teams
usually start start offseason workout programs in April and then
hold organized activities in May or June, so he probably
won't miss too much if he's back in June. The
Boston Globes Ben Bolan said the sieger sounded a little
more serious than it was reported earlier this month. It
was a little bit more than a cleanup. He wore
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a sleeve on his left knee during the boat parade
after the Super Bowl, so so this is something I
don't think it's well. I think it's just because it's
Tom Brady and he never has anything wrong with him
right that it's you know, a little a little cautionary,
but I'm not concerned. He's gonna come back, but he's
gonna be fine. And then ten to nine is hit.
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I was fine till twenty five. What happened? I tore
my ACL and then it just all downhill from there,
really never got better. Well, I mean, you know when
you when you do something like an ACL or an
achilles or something where you have to like literally learn
how to walk again, you know you're not gonna eat
perfect for eight months unless you're Tom Brady, so you
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know your metabolism changes. I'm a woman. That's usually when
the woman's stuff starts kicking in me, like what like
like the chocolate goes to your thighs and you know
their hips are widening a little bit. A lot women
got a lot going on. You guys, really do we do?
We just need a razor about once a week, shave
this thing. It's really easy to be a guy. It's
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such a is so you guys go through so much stuff.
We do, but you have to deal with us. That's
that is true. I'm not gonna argue with you there.
So NFL teams can avoid appearing on HBO's Hard Knocks
if they either have a first year head coach and
have made the playoffs in the last two seasons, or
they've been on the show in the last ten years.
So this year there are five teams that don't meet
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that criteria and could be subjects for the show. The Cowboys,
the Giants, Panthers, Cardinals, and Broncos. Cowboys are obviously the choice.
I would say Denver, I'd like to I'd like to
have a camera on Drew Locke his coolness. I think
I don't know, I think I got obviously, the Cowboys
are number one. The Giants are boring when they're winning.
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They're Super Bowl teams were boring, and I got nothing
against Big Blue. But the Giants are the accounting firm
of the NFL. Well, even in a good year, when
they're saving your money, you still don't want to go there.
The most compelling, the most compelling Hard knocks are usually
when the head coach is a little while exactly and
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so McCarthy is just dysfunctional enough to make it fascinating.
And this is the Cowboys, Like, there's so many personalities
you're gonna get at Jerry Jones, Well, you know who
else I get if it's the Cowboys, Charlotte Jones. Oh yeah,
you love Charlotte. Oh, I think she is the smartest. Oh,
Charlotte Jones was made for a television show. The NFL
Networks thinks that the Jags could volunteer for an appearance
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The Jags they could volunteer for an appearance. Well, I
don't know if that's a good idea. I don't think.
I don't think. I don't like that just because obviously
it's Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence, so it would be
incredible to watch. But there's a reason why they don't
do this with first year head coaches, Like it's a
whole added elements to your first year with a organization
and in this case Urban Meyer in the NFL. So
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it would be awesome to watch. But this is like
hard Nuts is a lot, but there's a whole production
there doing a television show on your team while you're
in training camp. So I get why they don't do
it with first year head coaches. So Drew Brees hasn't
actually retired yet, Yeah, he's expected to retire the song
what's going on with that? I don't he just hasn't.
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I thought he was gonna announce after the Super Bowl,
so I don't know. Maybe he isn't going to They're
not sure yet. I don't know. He would obviously leave
the Saints in need of a new franchise quarterback, and
now Russell Wilson has put the Saints on his list.
Defensive end Cam Jordan asked if Taysom Hill was in
line for the job, but he thinks there are other
backup could be the ones to get the nod instead.
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James Winston up next, I believe, is what Sean Pagen said.
Sean wouldn't say, you know, he's fighting for Jamis to
be back if if our goal was at Taysom. But
that's that's again where instances where it's just beyond my
pay grade. Jameis Winston is a free agent this year.
You can get Jamis for not much, and I think
Jamis has a much higher sailing than Taysom Hill, so
I would I don't think that's crazy. Tasted just second
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year in the system, which you don't think about that
because he didn't play much last year. Well, assuming they
don't get Russell Wilson, I actually like Jamis in this situation.
But Taysom's oz ten point seven million in bay salary
plus a four million dollars signing bonus in twenty twenty one,
he has a cap hit of sixteen point one million,
which is the fourth highest on the team. And remember
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they're seventy million dollars yea, they conjected seventy million over
the cap. So the Saint's trade Hill, they could be
looking at four million dollars in dead cap hit, which
is just the signing bonus. Yeah, I think, I mean
they Jamis is their best option. Listen, if you have
Jamis in Taysom Hill, yeah, which, first of all, Jamis
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has a way better arm than Drew and he's not
going to throw thirty interceptions with Sean Payton offense. That's
just sorry, that's just not gonna happen. I'd like to
see what what Jamis can do in the system. And
if you do hang on to Taysom Hill, I mean
they're gonna have to make some moves, Like they're they're
well projected sixty nine point five million dollars over the capital,
so they have to get rid of they have to
get rid of a big contract. But if you're gonna
go if you're going to run it with Jamis, I
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would actually want to keep Taysohm so would I absolutely,
I'd want twelve snaps a game from Taysom. Yeah, I
actually think Jamison Taysom, you could, you could make an
argument with that coaching staff as a playoff team. I
like Taysom. I don't know if he works many places
other than that's a very good point. That very good point.
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I think they're so creative and they know his skill
set so well. I don't like. I don't. I don't
think he's a franchise starting quarterback, but I think he
works well with what Sean Payn and the Saints to listen,
Belichick's got guys on that roster that worked for New England.
Julian Anelman is not going to be that big of
a star anywhere else. Well, there's a specific kind of
coach that can get the most out of a unique player.
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Belicheck and Sham Payne are those coaches. Good stuff, Joy
with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for
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last week he was with his family. He is back
and we love having him on the show. Jason naples
a lot of quarterback movement this offseason, so we want
to go I want to go through some of the
more notable potential moves. We do a segment called Tomorrow's
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Headlines Today, where you predict the headlines that will be
in newspapers around the America in the very near future.
So let's do Tomorrow's Headlines today. The headline for Jimmy
Garoppolo this offseason, and Jimmy g kind of under the radar,
if you will. He's not getting the level of Deshaun
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Watson interest or Russell Wilson. But the headline will be
Washington pays a ransom for the handsome Jimmy ge to
the nation's capitol. Come on, how good are the headline
writers here? Colin? Listen? This Washington team is really set
up for success. I actually I read a gambling column
for Fox Sports, and I wrote in last offseason that
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San Francisco's front seven had was loaded with number one picks.
So is Washington's, led of course, by Chase Young. All
Washington needs is a quarterback, and Ron Rivera cannot go
into next season with the battle between Kyle Allen and
Taylor Heinike, you just can't do that and expect to
get back to the playoffs. I really believe they make
a play for Jimmy g he comes east, He's you know,
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they're gonna love him in Washington, DC. And I think
this Washington team is going to stick around for a while.
They've got a lot of talent, especially on defense. They
just need a quarterback. Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the headline
for Deshaun Watson this offseason? Oh gosh, Deshaun Watson. My
Jets are kind of in the mix, right Colin, The
headline will be Watson has a new rule to follow.
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I'm sticking with Carolina. Remember I came on here a
month ago and mentioned Carolina. It's gotten a lot of traction.
I want to pivot now and talk about Carolina's owner, Colin.
He's a hedge fund billionaire. You know what these hedge
fund guys do. I know the circles you run in. Okay,
they quickly make moves. And what was the first thing
he did, Ron RIVERA thank you for your service. Cam Newton,
you know we're gonna release you. They love you. I
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believe he's gonna look at the four first round draft
picks and say, man, if we could just part with
four first round picks and get Deshaun Watson, let's look
at our last four first round picks in Carolina, Derek Brown,
Brian Burns, DJ Moore, Christian McCaffrey. Colin. If I told
you those four picks for Deshaun Watson, you're doing that
in the heartbeat, like on some level, Colin, and I
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know a lot of draft guys will push back. Unless
your top pick is in the top five, it doesn't
have the value in the cache that it really does
a first round pick. So if I'm Carolina, I quickly say, hey,
you want three ones in McCaffrey, done, you want four?
Give us Watson. I believe it's a great fit. Matt Rule,
Joe Brady the offensive coordinator, and Deshaun Watson. Good things
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ahead in Carolina. All Right, Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the
headline for Russell Wilson this offseason. Oh boy, Russell, was
a great story. You're buddy right, you know, I'm sure
you guys will be texting all weekend. Yeah, the headline
will be getting Danger Russ in the Big d Colin
Russell Wilson to Dallas. This will be probably the biggest
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NFL story, maybe for the next five years. Russell Wilson
and Jerry Jones. I mean, this is a match made
in heaven, is it not? If I am Jerry Jones,
He's seventy eight years old. Now, okay, this guy needs
needs to get to a super Bowl. Colin their last
Super Bowl trip twenty five years ago, their Super Bowl drought.
Can drive a rental car. That's how long it's been
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for Dallas. I just call up and I say, what
do you want? You want two ones and Ezekiel Elliott
because Colin remember, and I know people are gonna say, oh,
running backs don't matter. Pete Carroll has made it very
clear he wants to run the football and win with defense.
Legion to boom game manager Russell Wilson. Obviously you're gonna
lose Wilson here, but you get the running back and
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Pete Carroll can go back in three yards in a
cloud of dust. We've been hearing for a few years,
like let let Russ cook, Let him cook, And Pete
Carroll says, no, I want to run the football. That's
safer where you get Ezekiel Elliott and you lose Russ
Russell Wilson to Dallas Colin. That is an incredible offense
in Dallas. Don't disagree tomorrow's headlines today Jamis Winston this offseason,
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what's the headline? Okay, well, I just took a quarterback
away from Seattle, so I'm giving Jamis Winston the headline
will be making it rain interceptions. Come on, we had
to have fun now now. Honestly, Pete Carroll has made
it very clear he did not want Russ throwing a lot.
And I know you've seen the movie The Usual Suspects, Right,
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there's all these breadcrumbs with Kevin Spacey up to the end,
no spoiler alert, and you just missed them throughout the movie.
I have somehow missed this Pete Carroll disrespect of Wilson
because he wants to just have a quarterback to hand
it off. So you save money, right with Jamis Winston.
You don't have to pay him a lot, and you
rebuild that defense, get the legion of boom back. Because
think about it. Okay, this team is a couple of
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young players and they don't have that much talent. That's
the dirty little secret in Seattle. Dk metcalf is twenty three,
Jamal Adams, you know, twenty five, and other than that,
there isn't a lot of talent. I think Jamis Winston
comes in, you save money, you rebuild the defense, You
hand it off to Zeke. Seattle can do some damage.
Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the headline for Dak Prescott this offseason?
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All right, so Colin, what are we doing with Dak Prescott?
It is a very difficult fit. The Bears are interested.
The headline will be not his first rodeo, Dak Prescott
and Denver. Colin, I know your mind is blown at
this moment. Let me just say the Denver Broncos actually
have the cap space fifth most cap room to absorb
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Dak Prescott. They have not had a franchise quarterback since
John Elway, Okay, over twenty years ago. I don't want
to hear about Jay Cutler. And you look at the
weapons in Denver, Courtland Sutton coming back from injury. Yeah,
Jerry Judy, who couldn't really click with Drew Lock because
you know, Drew Lock's not very good. kJ Hammler. You
got the running back, Melvin Gordon, the tight end. Noah fan, Colin.
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This Denver team is a bit of a sleeper. If
they can get a quarterback. I think Elway makes a
play for Dak Prescott and they finally finally get their
franchise quarterback. And now you get Justin Herbert Okay, Dak
Prescott and Patrick Mahomes in the AFC West. That's a
really strong division. I know you love that one, Colin,
don't you. Well, I'm not a Drew Lock fan, and
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I would say, to be honest with you, Dak is
the opposite of Drew Lock. He's mature, he plays with urgency,
he doesn't turn the ball over. Dak does a lot
of things I love, and Drew does dissimilar things that
drive me nuts. Dak answers a lot of the maturity
issues I have with Drew Locke. That's interesting, now I didn't.
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I haven't. Denver's got a lot of and I do
like Denver's weapons, and they're all line was actually not terrible.
Last year, not terrible. Yeah, Mark Schlereth has been talking
about him. They're improving. And remember they're gonna lose Von Miller, right,
they're cutting bait with him, so they're gonna have a
lot of room to spend. And when there's only one
quarterback in deck, I think you go out and get him.
And the Denver Broncos are suddenly very good again. Good stuff.
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usually the slowest week of the year. There's like three
weeks of the year that are dead February, the second,
third week, fourth week of February. Great NFL free agency. Now,
it's amazing. It's amazing, all right, speak for yourself. As
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Super Bowl rings with the Patriots, and he's not as
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big on Russell Wilson as I am. He's not. I
don't know what it is. I don't know you know
these these He's a defensive coach, so he wants conservative play.
I like my quarterbacks. I don't have a problem with interceptions.
Just makes luck to a lot of interceptions. I'm okay
Brady's thrown pick Sixes and Super Bowls. I'm okay with it.
I don't like safe guys, So let's get Eric Mangini
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on here. So I think we should change the saying
in Seattle from from let Ross cook to put some
heat on Pete and get rid of that outdated offense.
But you've always been a little critical of Russell Wilson. Well,
first of all, I think that's a little unfair depiction
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of how I feel about Russell Wilson. But I don't
really understand where his dissatisfaction is coming. I know Brian Schottenheimer,
the offensive coordinator he had, he's my offensive coordinator in
New York. He was gonna let Russell Wilson have a
ton of impact on the game plan. And look the
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way it is, quarterbacks have a huge impact on the
game plan, and then when you have a great quarterback,
they have even more impact on the game plan. So
now I know the new group that's that's in there,
they're great guys. They'll let Russell have an impact on
the game plan. They've won. He's won over nine games
a year every year since he's been there. And what's
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what's his unhappiness? Well, what problem does he have? They
were twelve and four last year. I don't get why
he has his frustration with Pete. Well, I mean, he's
been sacked four hundred times in nine years, an NFL record,
So I think what he's looking at is going, I'm
getting hit a lot. Well, well, here's what I'll say
about that is when when you have it makes something happen.
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Quarterback who's going to move around the pocket. The offensive
line has a spot where they think the quarterback is
going to be. When you change that spot, the offensive
line is put into a bad situation. They can't see
the D line can no one else helps decrease sacks.
Running the ball, and when you don't want him run
the ball, you're probably gonna get sacked at a higher percentage.
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But he has responsibility for those things as well. And
he's made a lot of great plays, but that comes
with a higher percentage of sex. That's that's not on
the all on the old line, that's his responsibility too.
My guess is he doesn't get traded. But is there
one that you look out of the four and think
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that's probably the best fit for him. Yeah. As I
look at those teams, I like him. In Dallas, they
bring back almost everybody offensively, I think they lose. They've
got one guy on the offensive line who's a free agent,
and you're in a division where there's no elite quarterback.
You have the furthest chance to improve the team or
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the six and ten last year, and he brings something
totally different to that equation than Dak does. He's so
much more mobile than Dak. He's so much better at
creating off timing plays. I think that would be a
really good spot form especial sleek considering the division. All right,
if you ran the Houston Texans today. So the general
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rule in sports is if a star tellers that they
want out, your best to get it done behind the scenes.
When they go public, especially if they have a no
trade clause, it can really limit a team. And I
said this earlier. I went back to lou Al Cinder
with Milwaukee was an unbelievable player out of UCLA. He
went to dinner with the team and said, I don't
want to stay, and they got a haul from the Lakers.
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Paul George went public in Indie, they got nothing. He
went private and Oklahoma City and I want out. They
got fire players in the Great Point guard. Generally you
want to get if a star says I'm not playing,
make calls and get it done, so they don't go
out there and tell everybody you're not going to come back.
But that's done, as they say, the horses out of
the barn. On that with all the information out there,
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now you ran the Texans, what would you do with
Deshaun Watson. Well, there's an issue here, and Deshaun said
that loyalty is everything. I'm sure from an ownership perspective,
you're looking at it as I drafted you in the
first round, I extended you two years prior to when
I needed to give you one hundred and seventy million dollars,
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and you know, you talk about loyalty, that there's been
loyalty from an organizational standpoint, and I know there's some
frustration with what happened with JJ Watt, but JJ is
at the end of his career and he's not a
quarterback in his prime who's as good as Deshaun. As
it's it's apples to oranges. I don't think there's any
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thought organizationally to trade him. I think the fact that
they're not taking calls and they're doing what they're doing.
They're they're dug in and this is gonna have to
get ugly on Deshaun's part for him to move the
dial here. I believe what they're saying in Houston that
they're not going to trade him, And why would you,
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why would you ever want to move him? Yeah, so Brady.
I just saw a story this morning that Brady is
going to take another pay cut in Tampa. So you
know it's funny. So you were there early. I don't remember.
I don't remember his first ten years talking about Tom
Brady money. I don't even know how it went. You
probably recall it. Go back to his first ten years,
his first couple of contracts. Did he take the max
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he could get? Ben No, And that's one of the
things that you love about time. You look at him
now and you say, okay, he's not going to take
that the top dollars, and he said, okay, he's got
a lot of money, he's got a lot of success.
That makes sense. But that's how Tom always has been.
Like Tom, even from a very early age, understood that
the more that he gets, the less the people around
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him can get, and the less they can improve the team.
And he was willing. He was willing to do that.
The greatest story about Tom is when he first got famous,
he got a commercial. I think it was a vs.
Yes Basic card. Yeah. One of the things that he
demanded was that his offensive being the commercial with him.
He wanted to make sure that those guys got a
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chance to get a little bit of a taste, that
those guys got some recognition. There's not many stars that say, Okay,
I'm I'm not making a lot of money. I was
a six round draft pick. I'm finally getting a chance
to get endorsements. But hold on, I want to give
part of it to my offensive line. That's how how
he's wired, and he's done it forever, and so you
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may look at it now and be a little bit
cynical because of how much he has, but this is
this is who he is and everybody around him. You know,
you look at that and it makes sense for you
to make some sacrifices. Yeah, so I'm gonna you used
to coach the Jets. I want to throw my theory
at you. Okay, I love your theories. Now, they're not,
as Joyce says, they're not conspiracy theories. They're just my theories.
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So I run the Jets today, which is my dream job.
By the way, I'd hire you back. By the way,
if if I was the Jets, you bet, Yeah, thanks
for doing a lot of games. So I would stay
with Sam Darnold for this reason. So I'm gonna draft
a Mountain West quarterback. I gotta face Belichick twice a year.
Best defensive coach ever, Brian Flores, who looks like a
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rock star defensive coach, Sean McDermott, as you well know,
very well respected as a defensive coach. Okay, So I've
got six games a year in division with a rookie quarterback,
with the best three of the top four defensive coaches
in football, maybe the top three. I gotta be honest
with you, I would keep Darnald. I would get what
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I could get for the second pick, which includes, you know,
I could get maybe a draft picks and a player
actually a corner and solve that issue. I can make
a compelling argument, is I don't want to go back
to a rookie quarterback in that division with all those
defensive coaches. Your thoughts, Yeah, I think you have to
look at it as not being rookie or not rookie,
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but being whether or not what he's done to this
point has been underachieving. And you know, we saw Tanahell
with Adam Gayson. He went somewhere different and things change,
and maybe this is the same situation for Donald. But
to have that that pick and be able to trade
it back for not just draft capital this year, but
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draft capital moving forward. If you feel like Sam Darnald
can improve on what he's done, it makes It makes
all the sense in the world. You can you can
dramatically change the team by by gathering those draft picks,
both short term and long term. Now, the issue I
had with Donald is that that fifty fifty touchdown the
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interception ratio, he's close to that. He was kind of
that way in college and you haven't seen a lot
of prigress now. That scares you. With the volume of
defensive coordinators that we talked about and how good they are,
and they've got more and more of a book on
him every year that he plays, well, it's pretty smart there.
I like that argument. That's a pretty good argument. They
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have more of a book on him. Okay, it's pretty good.
That made sense that that works through. And and here's
the other thing I'd say is, if there's a quarterback
that you believe can can truly be a franchise quarterback,
and you've got a guy that you're uncertain on, you
gotta take a chance on the quarterback. You know, hopefully
you won't be drafting in the spot that the Jets
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are drafting in, you know, anytime soon. But if that
guy's there and you're you're you feel strongly about him,
regardless of who you have, you gotta make that move.
Did you ever draft a quarterback? I drafted Kellen Clemens
in the second round. He I think he ended up
playing eleven or twelve years in the league. Um didn't
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didn't quite get to where we want him to get to,
but he had a long, long career. I know I
saw him. You'd you'd love the guy. Oh, I know.
I saw him in high school Bend, Oregon. He was
dad was a rancher. He played safe. It was an
all state safety. He was tough as a five dollars steak.
Tough kid. I love it. Tough great kid, great career. Yep. Yeah,
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Oregon people are all nice people. That's where I'm from mostly,
you know, well, I mean there are Eric Mangini. Good
talking you good, Dack nic Com all right. I actually
watched Kellen Clemens in his state. He was good. He
was tough. When your dad's a rancher, yeah, okay, you're
you know you're basically yeah, he was. He was. It
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was funny because I it's funny that he drafted him,
because I remember used to work for a guy that
was a huge Jets fan, and uh he asked me
about him, and I'm like, I love him. But he
was a classic example of he was really really athletic,
but didn't have didn't have a great supportism most of
his career, bounced around, didn't quite have the arm um.
It was weird. So I lived in a state of Oregon, tiny,
tiny state, three million people. One of the years I
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let this is the most bizarre. I couldn't never get
over this. We had three of the four best high
school quarterbacks in the country in Oregon. We had a
kid named Derek Anderson he played in the pros, Kellen Clemens,
and a kid named Nick Costa who went to University
of Arizona. They were three of the top four. What
are the chances that would be like Rhode Island having
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three of the four best baseball prospects in America, and
I watched them all playing high school. And that's the
end of the story. It's not much more than that.
Joy with the news. No, no, this is the Oh,
it's a stunning summers, amazing just even flying in past
mount Hood. The summers are amazing in Portland, Central Oregans
(12:35):
even prettier. It's on my list. So Tom Brady underwent
knee surgery earlier this month pretty quietly. Actually. Bruce Arians
initially said it was just a clean up, but other
reports claimed the procedure was a little bit more serious
than that, and now Arians is giving a timeline for
Brady's recovery. He said Brady should be ready for seven
on seven field work around June. Oh, that sounds like
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a little bit of an old man knee scope. Yes,
knee scopes happen a lot, do they. But well, I
mean you gotta you know, you gotta go in there
and clean stuff up. What do you mean clean don't
have bad knees, so this is not you have bad knees.
I have one bad knee, so you have to clean out.
I mean, I don't do anything that requires any kind
of this kind of level of physical activis I go
on a long walk, it's it's uh, it's good. I
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mean there's like CARDI lit. I don't know. I'm not
a doctor. They just go in there. There's like cartilage
and scar tissue and stuff that you know, sometimes to
clean out. Um I imagine, again, not a doctor. So
I have absolutely no idea how this stuff works. But
you did that, uh Grasston stuff. I did that. Yeah,
I did that with my knee too. So that's really
good for breaking up scar tissue. But obviously there's more
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advanced than that what needed to be done. UM teams
usually start start offseason workout programs in April and then
hold organized activities in May or June, so he probably
won't miss too much if he's back in June. The
Boston Globes Ben Bolan said the sieger sounded a little
more serious than it was reported earlier this month. It
was a little bit more than a cleanup. He wore
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a sleeve on his left knee during the boat parade
after the Super Bowl, so so this is something I
don't think it's well. I think it's just because it's
Tom Brady and he never has anything wrong with him
right that it's you know, a little a little cautionary,
but I'm not concerned. He's gonna come back, but he's
gonna be fine. And then ten to nine is hit.
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I was fine till twenty five. What happened? I tore
my ACL and then it just all downhill from there,
really never got better. Well, I mean, you know when
you when you do something like an ACL or an
achilles or something where you have to like literally learn
how to walk again, you know you're not gonna eat
perfect for eight months unless you're Tom Brady, so you
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know your metabolism changes. I'm a woman. That's usually when
the woman's stuff starts kicking in me, like what like
like the chocolate goes to your thighs and you know
their hips are widening a little bit. A lot women
got a lot going on. You guys, really do we do?
We just need a razor about once a week, shave
this thing. It's really easy to be a guy. It's
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such a is so you guys go through so much stuff.
We do, but you have to deal with us. That's
that is true. I'm not gonna argue with you there.
So NFL teams can avoid appearing on HBO's Hard Knocks
if they either have a first year head coach and
have made the playoffs in the last two seasons, or
they've been on the show in the last ten years.
So this year there are five teams that don't meet
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that criteria and could be subjects for the show. The Cowboys,
the Giants, Panthers, Cardinals, and Broncos. Cowboys are obviously the choice.
I would say Denver, I'd like to I'd like to
have a camera on Drew Locke his coolness. I think
I don't know, I think I got obviously, the Cowboys
are number one. The Giants are boring when they're winning.
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They're Super Bowl teams were boring, and I got nothing
against Big Blue. But the Giants are the accounting firm
of the NFL. Well, even in a good year, when
they're saving your money, you still don't want to go there.
The most compelling, the most compelling Hard knocks are usually
when the head coach is a little while exactly and
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so McCarthy is just dysfunctional enough to make it fascinating.
And this is the Cowboys, Like, there's so many personalities
you're gonna get at Jerry Jones, Well, you know who
else I get if it's the Cowboys, Charlotte Jones. Oh yeah,
you love Charlotte. Oh, I think she is the smartest. Oh,
Charlotte Jones was made for a television show. The NFL
Networks thinks that the Jags could volunteer for an appearance
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The Jags they could volunteer for an appearance. Well, I
don't know if that's a good idea. I don't think.
I don't think. I don't like that just because obviously
it's Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence, so it would be
incredible to watch. But there's a reason why they don't
do this with first year head coaches, Like it's a
whole added elements to your first year with a organization
and in this case Urban Meyer in the NFL. So
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it would be awesome to watch. But this is like
hard Nuts is a lot, but there's a whole production
there doing a television show on your team while you're
in training camp. So I get why they don't do
it with first year head coaches. So Drew Brees hasn't
actually retired yet, Yeah, he's expected to retire the song
what's going on with that? I don't he just hasn't.
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I thought he was gonna announce after the Super Bowl,
so I don't know. Maybe he isn't going to They're
not sure yet. I don't know. He would obviously leave
the Saints in need of a new franchise quarterback, and
now Russell Wilson has put the Saints on his list.
Defensive end Cam Jordan asked if Taysom Hill was in
line for the job, but he thinks there are other
backup could be the ones to get the nod instead.
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James Winston up next, I believe, is what Sean Pagen said.
Sean wouldn't say, you know, he's fighting for Jamis to
be back if if our goal was at Taysom. But
that's that's again where instances where it's just beyond my
pay grade. Jameis Winston is a free agent this year.
You can get Jamis for not much, and I think
Jamis has a much higher sailing than Taysom Hill, so
I would I don't think that's crazy. Tasted just second
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year in the system, which you don't think about that
because he didn't play much last year. Well, assuming they
don't get Russell Wilson, I actually like Jamis in this situation.
But Taysom's oz ten point seven million in bay salary
plus a four million dollars signing bonus in twenty twenty one,
he has a cap hit of sixteen point one million,
which is the fourth highest on the team. And remember
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they're seventy million dollars yea, they conjected seventy million over
the cap. So the Saint's trade Hill, they could be
looking at four million dollars in dead cap hit, which
is just the signing bonus. Yeah, I think, I mean
they Jamis is their best option. Listen, if you have
Jamis in Taysom Hill, yeah, which, first of all, Jamis
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has a way better arm than Drew and he's not
going to throw thirty interceptions with Sean Payton offense. That's
just sorry, that's just not gonna happen. I'd like to
see what what Jamis can do in the system. And
if you do hang on to Taysom Hill, I mean
they're gonna have to make some moves, Like they're they're
well projected sixty nine point five million dollars over the capital,
so they have to get rid of they have to
get rid of a big contract. But if you're gonna
go if you're going to run it with Jamis, I
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would actually want to keep Taysohm so would I absolutely,
I'd want twelve snaps a game from Taysom. Yeah, I
actually think Jamison Taysom, you could, you could make an
argument with that coaching staff as a playoff team. I
like Taysom. I don't know if he works many places
other than that's a very good point. That very good point.
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I think they're so creative and they know his skill
set so well. I don't like. I don't. I don't
think he's a franchise starting quarterback, but I think he
works well with what Sean Payn and the Saints to listen,
Belichick's got guys on that roster that worked for New England.
Julian Anelman is not going to be that big of
a star anywhere else. Well, there's a specific kind of
coach that can get the most out of a unique player.
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Belicheck and Sham Payne are those coaches. Good stuff, Joy
with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for
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day before Wednesday. Yeah, hungry yeah, we used to have snacks.
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last week he was with his family. He is back
and we love having him on the show. Jason naples
a lot of quarterback movement this offseason, so we want
to go I want to go through some of the
more notable potential moves. We do a segment called Tomorrow's
(21:32):
Headlines Today, where you predict the headlines that will be
in newspapers around the America in the very near future.
So let's do Tomorrow's Headlines today. The headline for Jimmy
Garoppolo this offseason, and Jimmy g kind of under the radar,
if you will. He's not getting the level of Deshaun
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Watson interest or Russell Wilson. But the headline will be
Washington pays a ransom for the handsome Jimmy ge to
the nation's capitol. Come on, how good are the headline
writers here? Colin? Listen? This Washington team is really set
up for success. I actually I read a gambling column
for Fox Sports, and I wrote in last offseason that
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San Francisco's front seven had was loaded with number one picks.
So is Washington's, led of course, by Chase Young. All
Washington needs is a quarterback, and Ron Rivera cannot go
into next season with the battle between Kyle Allen and
Taylor Heinike, you just can't do that and expect to
get back to the playoffs. I really believe they make
a play for Jimmy g he comes east, He's you know,
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they're gonna love him in Washington, DC. And I think
this Washington team is going to stick around for a while.
They've got a lot of talent, especially on defense. They
just need a quarterback. Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the headline
for Deshaun Watson this offseason? Oh gosh, Deshaun Watson. My
Jets are kind of in the mix, right Colin, The
headline will be Watson has a new rule to follow.
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I'm sticking with Carolina. Remember I came on here a
month ago and mentioned Carolina. It's gotten a lot of traction.
I want to pivot now and talk about Carolina's owner, Colin.
He's a hedge fund billionaire. You know what these hedge
fund guys do. I know the circles you run in. Okay,
they quickly make moves. And what was the first thing
he did, Ron RIVERA thank you for your service. Cam Newton,
you know we're gonna release you. They love you. I
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believe he's gonna look at the four first round draft
picks and say, man, if we could just part with
four first round picks and get Deshaun Watson, let's look
at our last four first round picks in Carolina, Derek Brown,
Brian Burns, DJ Moore, Christian McCaffrey. Colin. If I told
you those four picks for Deshaun Watson, you're doing that
in the heartbeat, like on some level, Colin, and I
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know a lot of draft guys will push back. Unless
your top pick is in the top five, it doesn't
have the value in the cache that it really does
a first round pick. So if I'm Carolina, I quickly say, hey,
you want three ones in McCaffrey, done, you want four?
Give us Watson. I believe it's a great fit. Matt Rule,
Joe Brady the offensive coordinator, and Deshaun Watson. Good things
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ahead in Carolina. All Right, Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the
headline for Russell Wilson this offseason. Oh boy, Russell, was
a great story. You're buddy right, you know, I'm sure
you guys will be texting all weekend. Yeah, the headline
will be getting Danger Russ in the Big d Colin
Russell Wilson to Dallas. This will be probably the biggest
(24:29):
NFL story, maybe for the next five years. Russell Wilson
and Jerry Jones. I mean, this is a match made
in heaven, is it not? If I am Jerry Jones,
He's seventy eight years old. Now, okay, this guy needs
needs to get to a super Bowl. Colin their last
Super Bowl trip twenty five years ago, their Super Bowl drought.
Can drive a rental car. That's how long it's been
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for Dallas. I just call up and I say, what
do you want? You want two ones and Ezekiel Elliott
because Colin remember, and I know people are gonna say, oh,
running backs don't matter. Pete Carroll has made it very
clear he wants to run the football and win with defense.
Legion to boom game manager Russell Wilson. Obviously you're gonna
lose Wilson here, but you get the running back and
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Pete Carroll can go back in three yards in a
cloud of dust. We've been hearing for a few years,
like let let Russ cook, Let him cook, And Pete
Carroll says, no, I want to run the football. That's
safer where you get Ezekiel Elliott and you lose Russ
Russell Wilson to Dallas Colin. That is an incredible offense
in Dallas. Don't disagree tomorrow's headlines today Jamis Winston this offseason,
(25:37):
what's the headline? Okay, well, I just took a quarterback
away from Seattle, so I'm giving Jamis Winston the headline
will be making it rain interceptions. Come on, we had
to have fun now now. Honestly, Pete Carroll has made
it very clear he did not want Russ throwing a lot.
And I know you've seen the movie The Usual Suspects, Right,
(25:57):
there's all these breadcrumbs with Kevin Spacey up to the end,
no spoiler alert, and you just missed them throughout the movie.
I have somehow missed this Pete Carroll disrespect of Wilson
because he wants to just have a quarterback to hand
it off. So you save money, right with Jamis Winston.
You don't have to pay him a lot, and you
rebuild that defense, get the legion of boom back. Because
think about it. Okay, this team is a couple of
(26:19):
young players and they don't have that much talent. That's
the dirty little secret in Seattle. Dk metcalf is twenty three,
Jamal Adams, you know, twenty five, and other than that,
there isn't a lot of talent. I think Jamis Winston
comes in, you save money, you rebuild the defense, You
hand it off to Zeke. Seattle can do some damage.
Tomorrow's headlines today, what's the headline for Dak Prescott this offseason?
(26:44):
All right, so Colin, what are we doing with Dak Prescott?
It is a very difficult fit. The Bears are interested.
The headline will be not his first rodeo, Dak Prescott
and Denver. Colin, I know your mind is blown at
this moment. Let me just say the Denver Broncos actually
have the cap space fifth most cap room to absorb
(27:05):
Dak Prescott. They have not had a franchise quarterback since
John Elway, Okay, over twenty years ago. I don't want
to hear about Jay Cutler. And you look at the
weapons in Denver, Courtland Sutton coming back from injury. Yeah,
Jerry Judy, who couldn't really click with Drew Lock because
you know, Drew Lock's not very good. kJ Hammler. You
got the running back, Melvin Gordon, the tight end. Noah fan, Colin.
(27:25):
This Denver team is a bit of a sleeper. If
they can get a quarterback. I think Elway makes a
play for Dak Prescott and they finally finally get their
franchise quarterback. And now you get Justin Herbert Okay, Dak
Prescott and Patrick Mahomes in the AFC West. That's a
really strong division. I know you love that one, Colin,
don't you. Well, I'm not a Drew Lock fan, and
(27:46):
I would say, to be honest with you, Dak is
the opposite of Drew Lock. He's mature, he plays with urgency,
he doesn't turn the ball over. Dak does a lot
of things I love, and Drew does dissimilar things that
drive me nuts. Dak answers a lot of the maturity
issues I have with Drew Locke. That's interesting, now I didn't.
(28:09):
I haven't. Denver's got a lot of and I do
like Denver's weapons, and they're all line was actually not terrible.
Last year, not terrible. Yeah, Mark Schlereth has been talking
about him. They're improving. And remember they're gonna lose Von Miller, right,
they're cutting bait with him, so they're gonna have a
lot of room to spend. And when there's only one
quarterback in deck, I think you go out and get him.
And the Denver Broncos are suddenly very good again. Good stuff.
(28:31):
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podcast every morning. Good talking to you, buddy. Hey, congrats
on the improved health, buddy. Oh, thank you very much. Well,
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(28:54):
for the week. Joy, God, we can only hope next
week's this good. So wild week. It's great. This is
usually the slowest week of the year. There's like three
weeks of the year that are dead February, the second,
third week, fourth week of February. Great NFL free agency. Now,
it's amazing. It's amazing, all right, speak for yourself. As
(29:14):
around the corner, Joy and I are gonna go. We're
just gonna go our separate ways and have so much
fun this weekend and we'll see you Monday.
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Colin Cowherd
Jason McIntyre
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