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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm a bounct Yes, you are a Don't.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
That Charlotte mantain is true?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
In May fourteenth, goes to the Ozark Police Department in Alabama. Now,
if you haven't heard about this story, gather around. There's
a man named Reginald Burkes who is currently faced with
a decision. He must either write an apology letter to
a police officer because he cursed at the officer, and
if he does it, he must serve up the thirty
days in jail. Let's go to News four for the report.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Police Judge Nicholas Bull ordered Burkes to apologize to the
officer who gave him a speeding ticket last December. That's
in addition to the two hundred dollars fine Burke Shell
doubt this week. He believes that making Burke say I'm
sorry to the officer and Burkes admits he used one
bad word violates his right to free speech.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
According to a federal cases, what has to happen is
those words that he uses, or if someone uses has
to incite violence.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's not the case in this situation.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Harrison adds that Supreme Court case to support his interpretation
of the law. Profanity lace language does not violate the law.
As for Burkes, he stands firm in the belief that
he was not wrong for what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But I told my mom, I probably just gonna go
up there and see what they're gonna actually give me
some time for not ten days or thirty days whatever
they want to give me for not writing out a
policy letter, because I'm not writing on a policy latter.
I don't think now it was really I don't think
it's necessary.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right, when the judge talks like this, you're gonna
go to jail if you don't do what the judge
tell you to do. Now, Look, it's tough being a
black man in America and having to deal with law
enforcement because the reality is in our minds every encounter
with police officers were just trying to survive, and in
the case of reginal Burks is in the case of
Reginald Burks, personally, I'm not cursing at the police officer.
I totally understand and respect the power dynamics in that situation.
(01:49):
We out in the field, out in the streets. As
much as we want to say these officers work for us,
they don't. Okay, they technically do, because we are tax
paying citizens, but a lot of them don't act like it.
And I am fully away that I am dealing with
a human who has the same pride and oftentimes wounded
ego as anyone else. All Right, these police officers are human,
and some of them with narcissists, high conflict personalities, kids
(02:10):
who were bullied in school and now they got a
badge and they want to do the bullying. Okay, I'm
not saying this is all police officers. I'm just simply
saying that I know there are plenty of people like
the ones I'm describing in those uniforms. And guess what,
I don't have time to determine who is who and
what is what. I just want to get home. So
if I'm Reginald Burke when the cop gets in front
of my car and doesn't move, and the cop tells
me to go around, I'm gonna probably just go around
(02:33):
if I move it all because, once again, in my mind,
the way my anxiety set up, he stands in front
of my car telling me to go around, But what
if he decides to stay. Nope, he tried to hit
me with his car and then he pulls out his
gun and lights my ass up. That's the type of
stuff we gotta think about. One thing I'm not doing
is insulting our agatate, antagonizing somebody with a gun, especially
(02:54):
someone who is authorized to use that weapon, if they
simply feel threatened. So easither I would have took my
chances and just around like the officer told me to do. Oh,
I would have just sat there and told the officer
straight up, look, I'm a little scared right now because
of the way you are acting. So I would rather
sit here until you decide to move out the way.
But one thing I would not do is tell the
police officer. And this is what Reginald said, allegedly, get
(03:15):
your ass out the way so I can take my
kid to school. That's why y'all underpaid, because y'all act
dumb that right there is gonna do anything for anyone
because problems. But Reginald did what he was supposed to do.
He went the court last months prepared to plete guilty,
paid the fine, which was two hundred and eleven dollars
twenty two cents, but the judge told him he should
ride an apology to the officer for allegedly having cursed
(03:37):
at him. Write the letter, served thirty days in jail.
This is all lego. If you asked me, and this
is exactly why you don't play with the law enforcement
in the first place. Okay, you want me to stand
at a chalkboard like Bot Simpson and write out repeatedly,
I will not curse the officer. I will not curse
the officer. I will not curse the officers. Now we
all know judges have discretion and sentencing and can include
(03:58):
things like requiring ad in to apologize. What does this
punishment fit the crime? I would say, no, thirty days
in jail if I don't write a letter apologizing to
this officer for telling him move his ass out the way,
you gotta charge me with this sorderly conduct is something
you can't go from a two hundred dollar fine to
me having to serve thirty days in jail if I
don't write a letter of an apology. Ugh, one of
(04:23):
the roots of all evil is abusive power. Please understand that.
Please give the Ozark Police Department in Alabama the biggest
he hull. I think this is abusive power. All right,
we should go to breakfast court again.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
My part you want to talk about you want to
talk about the fact that he said he's not writing letter.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's disabusive power power. Well, I mean it's all the same.
So I'd like to hear from the people. If it
was you in this situation, would you write the letter
apologizing to the police officer? Our goal potentially do thirty
days in jail.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
If it Where is this in Alabama? No, I'm I'm saying,
I'm sorry. Let me take you to dinner, like I
don't know. I'm not going to joe that if it
was in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
No, yeah, I'm not going I write that letter. I
ain't going to jail for thirty days. I'm not going
to their jail from southern jails. Yeah, they're gonna set
me up in there jail.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They're gonna be mad I didn't write the letter.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I wouldn't want to go to jail anywhere for thirty
days for something like this.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
But think about it. Let's say you don't write the letter.
Not they mad you didn't write the letter. Now you're
going in the jail. Now, I gotta make it now
they got making the dample up.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You're gonna listen, boy, that's right, all right, you're gonna
learn you your kind gonna learn to listen. Boy, that's right, okay.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Next thing, you know, you in the shower, taking the shower,
and yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Then what why why?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Why?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Tell me? Tell me more? All right, in the shower
you get there?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Eight, don't drenk five five five? What are your thoughts?
Let's discuss. It's the Breakfast Clubbable.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Donkey of Today is sponsored by renowned personal injury attorney
Michael to Bull Lambing's soft. Don't be a donkey when
you need a fighter on your side. If you're ever injured,
go to Michael to bull dot com. That's Michael to
Bull dot com. And when you mess with the bull,
you get the horns.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Wake that ass up, Earth in the morning.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Breakfast Club
I'm a bounct Yes, you are a Don't.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
That Charlotte mantain is true?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
In May fourteenth, goes to the Ozark Police Department in Alabama. Now,
if you haven't heard about this story, gather around. There's
a man named Reginald Burkes who is currently faced with
a decision. He must either write an apology letter to
a police officer because he cursed at the officer, and
if he does it, he must serve up the thirty
days in jail. Let's go to News four for the report.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Police Judge Nicholas Bull ordered Burkes to apologize to the
officer who gave him a speeding ticket last December. That's
in addition to the two hundred dollars fine Burke Shell
doubt this week. He believes that making Burke say I'm
sorry to the officer and Burkes admits he used one
bad word violates his right to free speech.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
According to a federal cases, what has to happen is
those words that he uses, or if someone uses has
to incite violence.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's not the case in this situation.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Harrison adds that Supreme Court case to support his interpretation
of the law. Profanity lace language does not violate the law.
As for Burkes, he stands firm in the belief that
he was not wrong for what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
But I told my mom, I probably just gonna go
up there and see what they're gonna actually give me
some time for not ten days or thirty days whatever
they want to give me for not writing out a
policy letter, because I'm not writing on a policy latter.
I don't think now it was really I don't think
it's necessary.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right, when the judge talks like this, you're gonna
go to jail if you don't do what the judge
tell you to do. Now, Look, it's tough being a
black man in America and having to deal with law
enforcement because the reality is in our minds every encounter
with police officers were just trying to survive, and in
the case of reginal Burks is in the case of
Reginald Burks, personally, I'm not cursing at the police officer.
I totally understand and respect the power dynamics in that situation.
(01:49):
We out in the field, out in the streets. As
much as we want to say these officers work for us,
they don't. Okay, they technically do, because we are tax
paying citizens, but a lot of them don't act like it.
And I am fully away that I am dealing with
a human who has the same pride and oftentimes wounded
ego as anyone else. All Right, these police officers are human,
and some of them with narcissists, high conflict personalities, kids
(02:10):
who were bullied in school and now they got a
badge and they want to do the bullying. Okay, I'm
not saying this is all police officers. I'm just simply
saying that I know there are plenty of people like
the ones I'm describing in those uniforms. And guess what,
I don't have time to determine who is who and
what is what. I just want to get home. So
if I'm Reginald Burke when the cop gets in front
of my car and doesn't move, and the cop tells
me to go around, I'm gonna probably just go around
(02:33):
if I move it all because, once again, in my mind,
the way my anxiety set up, he stands in front
of my car telling me to go around, But what
if he decides to stay. Nope, he tried to hit
me with his car and then he pulls out his
gun and lights my ass up. That's the type of
stuff we gotta think about. One thing I'm not doing
is insulting our agatate, antagonizing somebody with a gun, especially
(02:54):
someone who is authorized to use that weapon, if they
simply feel threatened. So easither I would have took my
chances and just around like the officer told me to do. Oh,
I would have just sat there and told the officer
straight up, look, I'm a little scared right now because
of the way you are acting. So I would rather
sit here until you decide to move out the way.
But one thing I would not do is tell the
police officer. And this is what Reginald said, allegedly, get
(03:15):
your ass out the way so I can take my
kid to school. That's why y'all underpaid, because y'all act
dumb that right there is gonna do anything for anyone
because problems. But Reginald did what he was supposed to do.
He went the court last months prepared to plete guilty,
paid the fine, which was two hundred and eleven dollars
twenty two cents, but the judge told him he should
ride an apology to the officer for allegedly having cursed
(03:37):
at him. Write the letter, served thirty days in jail.
This is all lego. If you asked me, and this
is exactly why you don't play with the law enforcement
in the first place. Okay, you want me to stand
at a chalkboard like Bot Simpson and write out repeatedly,
I will not curse the officer. I will not curse
the officer. I will not curse the officers. Now we
all know judges have discretion and sentencing and can include
(03:58):
things like requiring ad in to apologize. What does this
punishment fit the crime? I would say, no, thirty days
in jail if I don't write a letter apologizing to
this officer for telling him move his ass out the way,
you gotta charge me with this sorderly conduct is something
you can't go from a two hundred dollar fine to
me having to serve thirty days in jail if I
don't write a letter of an apology. Ugh, one of
(04:23):
the roots of all evil is abusive power. Please understand that.
Please give the Ozark Police Department in Alabama the biggest
he hull. I think this is abusive power. All right,
we should go to breakfast court again.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
My part you want to talk about you want to
talk about the fact that he said he's not writing letter.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's disabusive power power. Well, I mean it's all the same.
So I'd like to hear from the people. If it
was you in this situation, would you write the letter
apologizing to the police officer? Our goal potentially do thirty
days in jail.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
If it Where is this in Alabama? No, I'm I'm saying,
I'm sorry. Let me take you to dinner, like I
don't know. I'm not going to joe that if it
was in Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
No, yeah, I'm not going I write that letter. I
ain't going to jail for thirty days. I'm not going
to their jail from southern jails. Yeah, they're gonna set
me up in there jail.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
They're gonna be mad I didn't write the letter.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I wouldn't want to go to jail anywhere for thirty
days for something like this.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
But think about it. Let's say you don't write the letter.
Not they mad you didn't write the letter. Now you're
going in the jail. Now, I gotta make it now
they got making the dample up.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You're gonna listen, boy, that's right, all right, you're gonna
learn you your kind gonna learn to listen. Boy, that's right, okay.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Next thing, you know, you in the shower, taking the shower,
and yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Then what why why?
Speaker 5 (05:43):
Why?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Tell me? Tell me more? All right, in the shower
you get there?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Eight, don't drenk five five five? What are your thoughts?
Let's discuss. It's the Breakfast Clubbable.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Donkey of Today is sponsored by renowned personal injury attorney
Michael to Bull Lambing's soft. Don't be a donkey when
you need a fighter on your side. If you're ever injured,
go to Michael to bull dot com. That's Michael to
Bull dot com. And when you mess with the bull,
you get the horns.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Wake that ass up, Earth in the morning.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
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