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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio.
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Football Friday, We're going to look back
the kickoff to Week six in the NFC West. It
was the Niners taking care of business with the Seattle Seahawks,
and now that we're looking at it, you kind of
get a feeling that maybe one of these teams isn't
all they're cracked up to be early in the season.
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We will get into that. We're also going to talk
about some very strange handling when it comes to one
of the calls last night in the game. The environment
in Seattle always delivers, even in a loss. We've got
the very latest on the Jets pursuit of potentially another
head coach and what that could mean moving forward. We're
also going to take a look ahead to a big
weekend in the world of college football. We're going to
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throw a parlay party and we've got a special edition
of our Picks against the Spread. It's all yours. Coming
up next here, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
Good morning, feeling great? Ready to go?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Man Vark called it last night, he called a shot.
He was very emboldened in calling a shot.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Hey, I never have a problem when I'm wrong. Good
for the forty nine ers, I mean I didn't think
that they had enough firepower to go into the twelfth
Man Stadium. But obviously the twelfth Man isn't what it
used to be. Should be ashamed of yourself. What's it
called now?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Lumen? Is that what it is? It's the sponsor now.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I don't know, don't careah damn, don't care.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well, as I said before, you know, sometimes history tends
to repeat itself, right, So after watching the New York
Giants dice up the Seattle Seahawks defense and then San
Francisco rip off four hundred and eighty three total yards
last night, it felt like, yeah, this is this is
a problem for Seattle. Is a problem last year. It's
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been a problem this year. They've been able to cover
it up at times because of the performance of their offense.
But this defense is banged up and it's just not
very good. And the only thing that even made the
score look as close as it did last night was
the forty nine ers that ability to cap off drives.
I mean last night they were three for five in
the red zone, but they still struggled their first two.
They had to kick field goals, and obviously Jake Moody's
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banged up, so they've got a backup kicker in there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
But he did fine.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
It's just this team is one of the best teams
in the NFC, hands out, and in the in the
NFL for that matter. And I kind of talked to
beginning of the season. As the injuries mounted for like
Christian McCaffrey and then Deebo Samuel missed a little bit
of time, and obviously, you know, George Kitto kind of
missed a little bit. But this is a great opportunity
for brock Purty to prove why he should be paid
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the likes of a sixty summer for let's say fifty
million plus a year contract. And folks, he is playing
lights out.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I'll just say, Geno Smith, if he protects the ball
on that that last interception, the Seattle Seahawks may win
that game by at least one point, which at the
end of the day, they don't cover. They don't cover anyway.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, but they would.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
They were three enough point underdogs at home.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, but I said they would.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Oh oh oh they were underdogs, which makes it hurt
anymore even more to be honest.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh yeah, they actually lost her twelve.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
So anyway, I figured that they would win. And I
felt like that was the most pivotal moment of maybe
not even pivotal, maybe defining moment of the game because
they put them in position to score. They got the
touchdown with Kittles. So I think that interception was way
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too it came out way too critical moment in the game.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Is yes, what sins West Virginia. West Virginia Pennsylvania rival.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I knew it was going to reservice again.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Oh boy, this is this is what y'all do. Y'all
try to play us against each other, you know what
I mean? Like that's I'm not y'all. Y'all want to
say things I thought each other.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
And say, Kyle Shanahan forty nine ers, but you didn't.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They did. They needed to win the game.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
They needed this game really really really really really really bad.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
They needed it badly. They needed it so bad.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Because their record isn't isn't obviously a reflection of how
good the team is or could be. So just based
off of what I have been feeling about and seeing
with the forty nine ers, I did not think that
they would go into Seattle and win. I just did not.
I thought there would be too much offense from Seattle,
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and at times there was, I mean DK Metcalf's touchdown
gets called back. I mean there were there were moments
where I felt like, and I go, I will go
back to the interception, but says you're on.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
The right side, on the wrong side of this bat.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I'm not pulling a Pete Pritty.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's a great way to gost They lost it makes
you feel better. You look back at a bet you
got wrong and you go to do it all over again.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I do the same thing.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Can I give you guys home, I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I would not another example of why maybe it's a
little fool scold. And look at the Seattle Seahawks record,
because look at five hundred record six games in the season.
Is not that bad, right, Like you could be the Bengals,
you could be the Browns, you could be a number
of other teams, the Panthers who are really in they
have no hopes whatsoever this early in the season. Five
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hundred is not bad at all. Here's the only problem
about that five hundred record. You beat Denver to start
the season bow knicks, right, rookie quarterback first start, like
close game. So even though the defense for Denver's playing
great and one of the best in the NFL right
now and they've continue to improve, kind of took advantage.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Of a rookie quarterback first start.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Then you go to New England, you win in overtime, yea,
and they're not very good.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
No, And then you beat Miami handily.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
You handily beat Miami, but that was not a two
tongue of Iloa led tare No.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
That was Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And then you've gotten beat by double digits or more
than a touchdown, let's say two scores the last three weeks.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
I don't I don't dispute that point. I think it's
a point that's well taken. All I'm saying is they
could have pulled that game out by one point if
Geno Smith doesn't turn the ball over and and I
mean they were they in their.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Own get fired up.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
They were in the Niners red zone and turned the
ball over. I mean, I saw what he was saying,
but there was definite was definitely to let go too late.
He let the ball go too late, like that was
an easy one.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But doesn't the way San Francisco ice the game warm
your heart a little bit of school football?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Felt a little football.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Are you feeling about a full back dive? If go
ahead and put them in their cast or come.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
On, casket?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Damn?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I mean, you know, I was really really watching bar
and and hoping, just for the sake of not having
to deal with this today, that my prediction.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
To get it done.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You know, if you need any help, if you need
any help on what to do when things go poorly
with a bet. You just let me know because I'm.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
For a second, yes, I'm watching everything right, I'm watching
Thursday night football. I'm watching the college football games. Shoutouts
to LA Tech taking care of business versus Middle Tennessee State.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Sorry Jonas, but.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
I'm watching James Madison absolutely throttle Coastal Carolina, and then
around the middle to the end of the third quarter,
they just put on the brakes. They're just like, eh,
we're good, were good with the beat down so far.
We don't need to carry this thing too much further
into the fourth quarter. And so the meat wagon hits
me up yesterday. He's like, hey, give me a bed
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for tonight, and I'm like, well, I was like.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Ye, obviously didn't listen to the show. I gave you three.
I go.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
I feel pretty good about all three, but I go,
I think the over of sixty feels.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Like the best.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
You know, based on how things are going, and based
on how the first half of that game went between
James Madison and Coast of Carolina. I'm like, all right,
Coast to Carolina might get there. Excuse me, James Madison
might get.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
There on their own.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
But It's like at one point of second half it
felt like Coast of Carolina gave up. They just couldn't
take care of the football. And then James Madison just
kind of was like, all right, we're good.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
We're good here. We don't need to prove too much
more of a point.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Which is surprisingly because not saying that they could beat
that team that makes as a group of five, but
you know, they're a team that I think with one
loss Baby Conference YMP, maybe they find their way up
in there. They have beat some Power four teams. Anyway,
my general point is didn't hit the over. I ended
up going two and one last night. Obviously James Madison
covered easily the nine and a half, and obviously San
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Francisco covered. But the one bet and we all got
a friend like this bet I give out happens to
be the one that doesn't hit.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And do you think I'm gonna hear about anything than
that bet?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, it's the worst.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's the worst. It's the worst.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
And the meat Wagon's gonna be complaining about it. He'll
probably come by for Sunday dinner and he'll be complaining
about it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
There to my in laws. It's gonna be a whole thing.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
I might as much to give him twenty bucks to
cover his bet and so it can stop bitching and moaning.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
About this at this point.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
By the way, how many pieces of chicken palm does
he pipe down on a Sunday night?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Not as much as you know what, Jake would excuse
me me, why can the bee whoa whoat draft? Very
disappointing when he gets about two plates, but like it's
not as much as you think he'd get that.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
That's like Aluchator loses his mask, Like wait that story.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He looks like okay, but yeah, he'll put down a
bottle of wine.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
That's for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Me too.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well it's like uh, you know officiating, you know, like
they'll get every call right except for the one, and
they get buried for the one call. And I would
like to say this, I mean, I'll take two in
one compared to Knox locks.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Oh you know what, that's enough. I have not had
a losing record in three weeks too, No three this
week's I was one one in one this past week
and I lost because of a hook, So that shouldn't
even count. The review of the muffed punt which clearly
indicated that the ball hit the guy trying to feel
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the punt for Seattle, the ball hit his finger, and.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
It was clearly if it's not a penalty on the
guy hitting the receiver, it should have been San Francisco's ball.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
So Kyle Shannan was asked about that afterwards because they
wanted to know. It looked pretty obvious. What were you told?
Here's what he had to say.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
What were you told in terms.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Of what angle they saw?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Whoever you know, let you know, and then what was
the explanation that they did it.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
It was awesome by him because he said he could
tell by how the guy's hand moved that the ball
hit him, and.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
And then that's all he saw.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
But he kind one hundred percent see the ball, But
he said, you could tell how the hand moved. And
with it being Thursday night football, I thought for sure
they'd have a bunch of camera angles. So once he
believed that it happened, we threw it, thinking we get
some better angles, and then they.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Just told me that he didn't.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
And then about two minutes later, two minutes later, I
heard all the guys in the box at freaking out
saying they saw another angle and it wasn't fumble, so.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Told you that they didn't have either.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah, they only know what they see, so they didn't
see I think what everyone else saw on TV.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So how the hell do the Thursday night football crew
have the better angle than the people that are hired
to actually review the calls if there's a miscall.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So so, first off, everything centralizes back to New York,
So New York is really the one that you know
will all be helping to make this call. The second
thing is the TV networks are the ones providing the angles.
They're the ones who bring in the TV the cameras
to be able to have all this. The problem is
is sometimes it's hard to be able to find all
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of the angles. There's technical issues, there's things that take time.
We don't want to slow down the game. So there's
this thought to give us all the angles you got,
and this might be the best one we've got, or
it might take time to get the better angle to
show it. That's part of the issue with the whole process.
It's one of the reasons why I wish more often
than not they would just go to break. It would
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be like an industry standard for the networks just to
go to break during a review process. You can touch
on a little bit before the break, touch on it
coming back, but it give you this like four minute
window where the truck has time. And in the case
that it's an issue with New York, it's an issue
with the truck not being able to find all the
angles that you need or everything they have, because that's
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unfortunately what happens is once things slow down, they're able
to go back and look and say, oh my gosh,
look this is the drama of the game.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
So that is in essence how that can happen.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, because it was is Terry McCauley, who's the guy
who is on is the rules analyst for Amazon Prime,
whoever the hell it is. He basically said that, you know,
he spoke with Walt Anderson back in New York and
they just said, well, we didn't have as good of
a camera angle as you guys. Add what hold on
second thing, it's a good one. I mean, so if
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you take the four minute break or you go to break,
I mean it's not like you know, you couldn't you know,
put together or come up with some sort of a
company that wants to get their business promoter, you could
do ads, you could do whatever, like it's an opportunity
there to get the call right, but they don't want
to get the call right because you know, it takes
too long. It just there's still holes in the whole thing.
I mean, ultimately it didn't matter because they ended up
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winning the game, but there's just holes in the whole
thing that don't make sense from time to time, and
you would feel like they would have a button up
at this point, but apparently they don't.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
That was one of those instances too, where you thought
San Francisco would even take care of the game even
even further, you know, yeah, even further that case. Yeah,
like then then they wouldn't even turnovers and stuff really
didn't even matter for Geno.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's like it was so out of hand.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And then because it becomes the question isn't the question
isn't can Seattle get within three and a half, it's
can they get within thirty and a half? Like based
on how that would have gone, because it would have
been such a blowout and like such a drastic difference
in it not even close.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Geez what And yet that interception by Geno Smith at
that moment in time of the game. They were heading
in for the second touchdown of what of that quarter? No,
was it the second of that quarter, something to that effect.
I know, they had just had I think they had
just they had just started to have success in moving
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the ball and scoring. They brought it down to what
six six points? It was six point game. If they score,
they take a one point lead. They take a one
point lead. But ge threw the ball away. They were
already in scoring position pretty much from the interception and
Kittle gets in.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
That's the biggest part of the game.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
And that punt that point was pretty bad. That was
pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I mean the other thing is anything about two point
conversion two and it really could have been worse, you know,
or it seemed even more outdated, like because because they responded,
they brought it back with a score, and then you know,
San Francisco did what they did. I mean, I mean,
really the scores should have been worse.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
They dominate.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I mean, there was never a point where I felt
like San Francisco couldn't just go down the field if
they wanted to. It was like only like they were
stopping themselves, you know.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, So, yeah, they got a couple of good stops though,
when they needed them, and they put them in position
to be able to try to eke out a victory,
they just.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Didn't do it.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
It want me. They didn't want me to be able
to come in and gloat over what took place last evening.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
So I agree, I think you should talk to Mike McDonald.
Maybe it's that that that Michigan Penn State thing.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
He just a little He looked a little upset too
after that interception. You know, it looked like he had
a few choice things to say behind his behind.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
His his plate.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
She cour Yeah, ar so, are you fired up a
little bit this morning? I can kind of tell you
got the juice is flowing. You're ready to go? You know,
I got home late last night.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
I am a dad that has a Division one volleyball player.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
L m U beat San Diego last night.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yeah, so shouts out to Hank's house, Loola Marymont.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah, Hank's a good guy. Ain't I hear anymore? Oh?
Damn Hank, Hank go r I P Hank?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Yeah, aink gone.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Hank Gathers is who I'm talking about, By the way,
him and Bo Kimball, you know, they made Allen. You
kind of you know, famous good team, very good team.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
You know. Uh yeah, he.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Told me that's a good looking team, is what he said.
That's the least out of my ear, the basketball team
or the volleyball I think the volleyball. Well, you know,
I got creeped out when I posted my daughter on
one of my daughters on I got creeped out because
somebody was like, man, what a good looking daughter?
Speaker 2 (18:17):
First time.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I don't think it was you.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Kind of got that in your bag though a little bit.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
You know, it's horrible, man, It's it's God's humor. He
gave me some really really really beautiful daughters. It's God's humor.
So it is what it is, also God's humor. In
case you were wondering, Uh, let's play a little game
real quick with some game show music.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Okay, come on, let's get it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Is it possibly get some game show music? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Of course you've got a live studio bande question.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
There it is.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
That's my favorite one too. This is the best one,
isn't it all?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yep?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah? Stink yeah, I think.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Okay, let's play a game of who is that San
Francisco running back that almost went for one hundred yards?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Last night.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Not the one you thought.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's not or Mason, surely not Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
We know he's also spending some time trying to rehab
those achilles. I'm going to butcher his last name, but
he came from Louisville. It's Isaac roriendo gundo, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Grendo? Is grendo?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Is that how you pronounson? I could have pronounced it
back and hews that Louisville. I just remember he just
completely blitzed Notre Dame and tore us up that again.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
And by the way, Kyle Shannon trying to say afterwards,
he was probably being a smart ass, but trying to
say that he intentionally slid so that George so that
Kyle Ustchek could get a rushing touchdown. My ass, If
I'm on the sprint and I run a fourth rookie,
if I run a four to three, I'm going to
the end zone.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I was trying to.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Understand why he slid. He didn't get caught.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
He's slid.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I don't know he got tripped up at first.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Nah, he's slid.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You guys never had a touchdown in his career. He's
a rookie. Runs a four to three, like he got
he got caught. They're trying to.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Spin it because he felt wrong decision. He was trying
to ice the game. And in my mind, in my mind,
I was like, why is he trying to ice the game?
If you just run it in Like even if even
if Seattle were to use the clock to try to score,
y'all get the ball back.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
You think game?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
What'd you think too, you'd get closer to the one
yard line. I mean, there's that slid. I don't know
why he slid. I don't know I.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Slid more time off the clock.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, he take more time because he got caught, and
he runs a four to three and he shouldn't be
getting caught.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That's one either way.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It's amazing how they just pull running back after running back,
after running back in the system.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Point a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
It's like his dad in Denver. Oh, oh he's injured.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I'll don't worry. This is coming off a comment made
by our very own Jewel Klatte.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
To Colin Caller, how coaching doesn't matter which we need
you get to at some point, because, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I try to tell you there's only one jks that
deserves respect.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I tried to.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
After this comment. I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
I don't think you're wrong. I don't think you're wrong.
I think someone needs to kick the other jks to
the curve.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
After that, it is two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas not with you, by the way, I was gonna
mention this here. I know we're late, but really, really.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It's okay, really important, it really is, LeVar. Would you
do the honors.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
It's a football Friday Friday.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Let's do it. It's Friday. Need to throw the Thursday
so I could come in to date and talk about them.
Come on it, do.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
It, Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
All right, all right, all right, let's do it for Eddie.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Let's do it for Eddie.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Guard Sea Friday night is the football Friday, Football Friday.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
Pretty quick, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
It is a football Friday here on two pros and
a cup of Joe. So we are going to be
jam packed throughout. We've got in case you missed it,
He's Leftovers is back. Hopefully we've seen the end of
that dumb bear video he likes to watch and voyeur over.
We're also going to have our picks against the spread.
It's all yours. Also, we're throwing a parlay party. Throwing
a parlay party. Later on in the show, we're throwing
a play party. Yea, if everybody cooperates his time. So
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that'll be yours here as we take you all the
way up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific.
But we do have a better understanding as to what
this team will look like moving forward and who could
be the next one to take the job. That's yours
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A little bit more clarity as to somebody who's been
missing in the NFL over the first five six weeks
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of the season. We'll get into that for you again
coming up here at a little over fifteen minutes from
now the New York Jets. I don't know if you
guys are kind of over the whole Robert Sola firing
and whatnot. I mean, it feel like it's kind of
run its course. I the guy got fired, you know,
Monday Night football. We get to see out.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
When did he get fired.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
A couple of days ago? Yeah, happens, man, like middle
of the season.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
That ain't the middle of the season.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The beginning of the season.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Now, man, we're gon, we're got to eighteen games. We're like,
wait a second, you got fired before the first third?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a rough one. Now.
We did hear from Jeff Olbrick and Aaron Rodgers discussing
the decision to strip play calling duties from Nathaniel Hackett.
Who would you guys be more curious to hear from
Oldbrick or Aaron Rodgers speaking with the media.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Uh, you pick, let's start what you're at.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Okay, so you're it The new head coach of the
New York Jets. Here was him announcing the.
Speaker 10 (24:39):
Decision regarding the staff after a lot of time to
think about it, and did not make this decision easily
by any means. I'm gonna make Todd Downing the play
caller for the New York Jets going forward. And this
is more a byproduct of a different take on things.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I'm not saying it's a.
Speaker 10 (24:59):
Better or worse on things by any means, but just
a different take on things as a fresh approach. So
ultimately Todd will have the full say on the game
plan and ultimately the plays that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Are called within the game.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
All right, So that was the brand new Jets head
coach Chef Ulbrick.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
And do you want to know why that is a lie?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Yes, he's making this comment on Thursday. They've already had
two days of practice. They already knew Tuesday they're putting
together the game plan. Who'd be calling the plays? That's
not a light decision and one that you sit there
and go on Thursday. You know what, We've got to
it a couple of days now. We just feel like
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Todd would be better for how who do you think
is communicating with Aaron Rodgers during the course of practice
or the offense during the course of practice to discuss
this fresh start, this new approach that Todd Downing's going
to go with. It's not Nathaniel hack it up there
in front of the meeting room. If it is, it's
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going to be confusing as hell to everyone who's on offense.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
They've already started their preparation.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
So the reality is, even though it's an extra day
right because they play Buffalo on Monday night, all that
preparation has already started. That decision was made by Robert
Salah before he was even fired, and then once Jeff
Olbrich got put in the position or you're it, as
Lafar says, that decision was finalized there too.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
That's interesting because if Robert Salah was making or made
the decision, it's still this just is such a bad
look for Woody Johnson. It's such a bad look. I mean,
why fire the guy when the decision that was going
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to be made to try to give a fresh set eyes,
a fresh aproach to what was taking place was ultimately
the decision of the man you fired, which means you're
basically saying we're going in a different direction, and as
Woody Johnson stated, with this new direction, we're going to
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win games and we're going to win games basically right now,
and that's based off of the decisions that Robert Sala made.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It doesn't make sense. Make it make sense to me.
I mean, it's simple as this.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
I feel like they're trying to make a change for
change's sake, because in this instance, there's no issue with
the defensive side of the ball. That was Robert Sala's specialty.
That's jeff Oldbrooks specialty. We talked to Albert Brey yesterday
about this, right He mentioned the fact that now you're
making your defensive staff thin because you're taking the guy
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who had eyes on the defense and now you're puting him.
In a head coaching position, he's going to have to
deal with a lot more. And now, look, there's ways
around that. You know, most coaches you call one side
of the football, have someone who's on the other side,
whichever case you know, whichever side that is, that they
entrust to be able to own that and hold it down,
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and their special teams coach hold it down. So it's
not as big of an undertaking as maybe it's made
out to be, but it does stretch you thin to
some degree. Because there are some head coaching decisions that
you've got to make and how you go about sharing
those responsibilities and duties. So the reality is, if this
decision is going to be made on offense regardless, what
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was the point of moving on from Robert Salah?
Speaker 5 (28:36):
That doesn't make sense. It's a bad look. Y'all know
how I feel about dysfunction. So dysfunction, that's that's that's
a bad look.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Let me let me pose this question to you guys.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Oh yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So if if this thing continues down the way it's
going because they've made this change at head coach and
you can't beat dysfunction, then my guess would be, if
they're not a playoff team and it continues to go south,
Rogers probably ain't coming back next year. Like it's probably,
I mean, that's probably not happening. So how attractive is
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this job if that's the case, Because if they play
well enough.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Would they want Rogers to come back?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I don't. I mean that's if.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
You're incoming head coach, would you want, like really think
about it?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Would you want?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I would?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I would on one condition that he knows we're going
to draft a young quarterback if we find when we
feel really good about and that he's okay with being
back and starting and playing, but knowing that, you know,
we want to make sure we have the future behind him.
He's going to be forty one years old, going to
you know, head into forty two, and that would be
the condition is being very upfront and honest about it
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and say, we don't have any plans to play this
guy as a rookie as long as you're here going
to be the guy, but we have to prepare for it.
And then that runs into the issue that he had
in Green Bay with him drafting Jordan Love. Now that
being said, when he was you know, at that age,
most teams look at it and say, well, he's getting older.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
He's getting older.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Is is he really going to continue to play like
with the way Tom Brady did and then he ripped
off back to back MVPs, so different story. But now
we're to a point where you are into that he's
forty and he's getting up there, there's got to be
some big concern, like it's more legitimate, which I think
he would be more open to it now probably than
ever before, knowing that he's got maybe another year or two. However,
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he looks at it but that would be the singular
condition if I was going to be that head coach,
or I would imagine whoever that head coach is going
to be, you would come in and you would make
that request.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
If I'm anyone but Bill Belichick. I'm looking at Woody Johnson,
and I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers, and I'm saying, hell no,
even if you're to the hell no, if you're hell no,
hell no until the hell no, I don't want it.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
A Belichick walked away from Woody Johnson when he first
got there. Well, what had Johnson done in twenty five hours?
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I'm just saying this.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
I'm just saying Bill Belichick would be the only name
that I could think of that could go in there
and be like, hey, ra Aaron, like, go sit in
the corner, like, I'll tell you when to come out
like and and if Aaron pushes back, he actually could
find himself in a situation that he's never found himself in,
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which is dealing with somebody that doesn't have more sway
or dealing with somebody who does have more sway than
what he does. I don't know how many other coaches
you could go out there and get not Mike Vrabel
not not There's there's no coach you're going to go
out there that's going to be able to stand up
to if something makes Aaron Rodgers uncomfortable, and whether he
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had anything to do with Robert Salas firing or not.
The bottom line here with Aaron Rodgers is he does
not have a good track record in terms of how
he handles things within the media publicly with things he
doesn't like. And I wouldn't want to put my I
would not want to put my coaching reputation knowing that
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you know this is this is already one of those
types of jobs where it's like, yeah, you got the personnel,
but can you can you do something that's going to
outperform the dysfunction. You got to take those things in consideration,
and I think that that would be a very daunting task,
and I don't know that I would want to put
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my my coaching reputation on trying to come in and
figure out if I can get Aaron Rodgers to do
it the way that I want to do it, because
he's probably going to do it the way Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Wants to do it.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Just going back to the conversation about the like year
or two left. So first off, he only has a
year left on his contract. He's got three or actually,
excuse me, four avoidable years on the back end this deal.
So really structurally he's got this year and next year,
and then after that they're all avoided.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
So I get rid of me, I come and avoid
that contract out like make sure. What I would want
as a head coach is to know that we're going
to draft a quarterback or we're going to find the
quarterback of my choice in free agency, if I'm gonna
go down with this ship or if I'm gonna bring
this ship across the dose, I want who I want?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Okay, great, Let me finish on the rest of what
I was gonna say is his cap hit is actually
really insignificant. It's only twenty three point five next year
against the cap. He's only seventeen point one against the
cap this year. So actually, the way it was structured
has really allowed them to build like they have this
offseason around the quarterback position and on this roster in general. Now,
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why they haven't spent some of that on Hassan Reik
Maybe we'll get that in one of our segments. But
his base salary is only twenty a half million. You know,
they do have to make a decision on an option
bonus before the twenty twenty five regular season, so that
ultimately will determine probably whether he comes back or whether
you know, they want him to finish out the rest
of this deal and all that. But it's really not
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that bad of a financial situation, at least when you
compare it to Cleveland Browns, for example, for him to
be there for one more year, if they were to
draft a quarterback and allow him to mentor that guy
and have a similar impact to what we saw at
least with Jordan Love and how good he's looked so
far in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I don't want it, damn.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
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Speaker 5 (35:03):
I ain't taking that coaching job. I ain't gonna do it.
Speaker 10 (35:09):
No, no, you can kiss my ass what he hell.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Hell no, hell no, I ain't taking it to the
hell hell no.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
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Speaker 1 (35:58):
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Speaker 6 (36:03):
Lap Good Friday more than ever Budday, Good morning, Jonas Brady,
Good morning to le Bar.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
In case he missed this, it was Hey Laura, Hey guys,
In case he missed this. It was reported yesterday that
c AA has officially parted Hey Brady, c AA has
officially parted ways with a Son Reddick amid his holdout
with the Jets. Now it is debatable about who has
dropped to first, whether Reddick has fired his agents or
they have parted ways with him due to their frustration.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
With his holdout. I was debating. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
That's just in this report that I see that it
is debated because Aaron Rodgers has had put it out
there that he had fired.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
His agents, Aaron Riding. Aaron Rodgers had actually.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
Said this in a few and some comments made a
few weeks ago that Reddick's former agents suggested the defensive
standout had fired the agents.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yes, that didn't make sense.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
But yes, Rogers had made had said that Reddick.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Are you okay, you're having a moment.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
No, I'm reading what this is on report.
Speaker 6 (37:00):
Rogers called them Reddick's former agent suggesting the defensive standout
had fired the agents.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Well, let me tell you something. If if a Son
Reddick or his agent whoever had the idea of not
showing up to the Jets this year, they should get
a raise because they were spot on.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
With this, Like I give me my money and if.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I'm him, send me alter. You got November fifth, Like,
send me to the Raiders if you want, Devonte Adams,
package me in a deal and get the hell out
of there.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
I just love how these negotiations go in New York.
Apparently it's just a friendly conversation with Widdy Johnson to
get the deal done.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
You know, just drive up what was a ninety five?
Just show up, show up.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Somebody scorching in so you can't leave.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
It'll be the same guy that escorted Solla out as say,
excuse walking back from the parking lot.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Hey Son, I'm going back in.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
You ready, Although you could make the case that his
addition now not that the defense is struggling, but it
could add to the defense. And maybe he you know,
he looks like a little bit of a hero too,
getting a deal done, coming in and playing for them.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
God, that seems a mess.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Well, it's hard for both sides to have a player
he's been as productive as he has and then not
be able to figure this out. And whichever side fired
the other doesn't matter. It's just it's pretty rare that
you see a guy who's had what double digit sacks
the last three years, and they somehow can't find a way.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'm getting a.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Deal done by the way. It's not like he's a
product of the system. He does it everywhere he goes.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
By the way, it would be the New York Jets
that didn't get it done.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
There you go, And why is that bar disfunction? Dysfunction, malfunction,