Mark Willard & Ephraim Salaam Ponder The Lakers Next Moves And Next Head Coach, React To Nuggets Vs Timberwolves Game 4, and More!!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:43):
How are you? I'm good? How are you? I am
doing fantastic.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I'm ready to roll, and I'm ready to hear from
you right now on what I find to be a
surprising rumor. It's just a rumor, it's no big deal,
and I've love out of the box thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
But here's my thought.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
When I hear that JJ Reddick is potentially a candidate
that's being targeted by the Los Angeles Lakers as their
next head coach. Young fella clearly knows the game, has
built a media career that's impressive, and oh, by the way,
file this has a podcast with Lebron James. Okay, I

(01:27):
feel like this whole Lebron and head coach thing has
reached the level of what, once upon a time was
called the OJ Simpson Trial. I don't want to date us,
but we're both old enough to remember what was going down.
It was a trial where on the daily the prosecution

(01:47):
is sitting there going we have every single piece of
evidence possible. It's everywhere, We've got all of it. Everything
looks completely clear as day, and a brilliant and expensive
group of defense attorneys would have you believe there's nothing

(02:09):
to see here. I don't even know why we're here.
Why are we having a trial? Honestly, how are we
going to continue? I this plausible deniability thing that Lebron
has with regard to who's his head coach, I had
nothing to do with it. He's at ten head coaches.
He has it is clear as day. The evidence suggests

(02:33):
he is the one calling the shots every single time.
Yet will never cop to it and always gives this
sort of like collective shrug of his shoulders whenever something
goes wrong, as it just did a couple of weeks
ago with the firing of Darwin Ham. Come on, man,

(02:56):
like that's my final analysis. Come on, man, you gotta
be kidding me. We're gonna hire your podcast host to
be the head coach.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Of the Lakers. Now see he fired up today?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Huh you couldn't wait. You got to be kidding me.
Come on, give me something on this.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
What are we doing? This is what I'll give you. Okay,
Has jj Reddick been hired?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
No? Okay, justin rumor, just a rumor.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
So us waxing poetic about you know, JJ Reddick being
hired the what if he doesn't get hired, because you
can go either or if we're going to play the
if in the what if game?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Correct? Correct?

Speaker 2 (03:49):
So, so we're already there, if the Lakers are actually
poking around, we're already in a credible place.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
The thing that bothers me about the whole situation is like,
I didn't know JJ Reddick was uh wanted to coach
me near there, So I'll harken it or liking it
back to something that happened a few years ago that

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came out of the blue and I didn't understand what
was happening, and that was a disaster and that didn't work.
That was the Steve Nash hiring in Brooklyn. Yep, Like
I didn't even know Steve Nash wanted to coach, but

(04:44):
yet he got hired as the Brooklyn coach. And then
the players didn't do any doing any favors by going
on the podcast and was like, hey, you know, it's
like we all are coaches. You know, he's one day
I might coach KD and Kyrie. I might be the coach.
You want to undermine a new coach, that's a perfect
way to undermine it. And so I don't think this

(05:07):
is as bad as that. I don't know if JJ
Redick has been on a coaching staff. Do we have
that information. Do we know that if he has been
on the coaching staff at some point.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
He has coached little people the same way you have.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Oh okay, so I as could be in the running
for the Lakers job.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
If you enough to know that, you'd probably do a
pretty good job. I can promise you I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I could promise you, right now, I could do a
pretty good job, right I could promise know the game.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
You've been a pro athlete, been around the way time
or two like, I mean, yeah, I mean no one
else would get it, but like, no one get it, right,
but I get it.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah? Right?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
But but so, okay, if we're in a hypothetical space
we are, let's go there for a second.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
How would you feel if this guy gets hired.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I'm not I'm not in favor of Well, look, I
don't like it because number one, our aspirations aren't to
make it to the playoffs, so the play in our
aspirations are to be champions, and as we're saying, in

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these playoffs, you got to bring it. Adjustments are everything.
And although you played basketball for a long time, coaching
on the other side of that is completely different. Managing
game flow, timeouts, all of those things players don't ever

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have to worry about. And so if you haven't been
able to do that at the pro level, in any aspect,
assistant or anything, then it it.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Gives me pause.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Has given you the head coaching job to one of
the most story franchises in NBA history, that is a
problem for me. It's a problem for me. I'm not
excited about it. Just fy I get it. Yeah, that's
your boy. Everybody loves to work with their boy until
they don't like to work with their boy. They ran
Steve Nash about it, there, didn't they.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, let's even just go to the history of this
particular player, this particular player. Here's been my issue with
it all along. I don't mind if Lebron James has
the control. He's that good, he's that important to the league.
It's not that I have an issue even if they
are running things by and through Lebron. But let's just

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also be authentic. Let's go ahead and call that what
it is, rather than whenever a coach gets fired, Lebron's
over there, like I did. I had no idea that
was common. You got to be absolutely kidding me, Like, can.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
We all please.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Agree to the premise that no head coach for any
team that even has a shot at Lebron, no head
coach is hired until Lebron gives the salute. And so
I my issue for all of these coaches would be, Dude,
you signed off on this.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
This was collaborative.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
I don't think they talked to Lebron. Well, I don't
think did Darvinham hire and I know the Frank Vogel
hire wasn't, So I'm not too sure about that. Because
we know who Lebron, Lebron wanted ty Lou before they
hired Frank Vogel. We know that and not available, and
it didn't well, it was available. They just didn't want

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to pay him. That that was the problem. Well, Tylou
wanted to come down, that's why he's at the Clippers,
but they didn't want to pay him. They wanted to
give him a shorter contract because they were already paying
two coaches who were no longer on the bench, so
they didn't want to give them the standard four or
five year deal. That was the problem, and so they

(09:18):
went with Frank Vogel. I'm not sure Lebron signed off
on that, not quite sure. It didn't seem like him
and Lebron, Darvin Ham and Lebron were ever on the
same page.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I would find it to be such an unbelievably.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
High level of malpractice.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
If you are bubble Chip or not, you are in
recent you are in recent views of title contention, you
have at that time what a thirty seven thirty six
year old Lebron James and you're just out here iron

(10:00):
coaches without talking to him.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
No, no, talking to someone and getting their approval is
completely different.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
And we know that. No, no, no, no, it is it
is different.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
It is like if I bring Lebron James, if I'm
Jennie Buss and uh and I bring him in and say, hey,
we're hiring the coach.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
These are the choices. How do you feel about these? Right? Oh?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I love Tyleru, I want Tyleru. Okay, what about Frank Vogel. Wow,
you know I would prefer Tyleru or whoever else was
a candidate at the time. And then they go out
like that's that is communicating, That is having the converse,
That is talking. That has nothing to do with no,
you got to hire this person or we got.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
To like you know what I mean, Like, I know
exactly what you mean.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
So, but the lack of disapproval is approval in this
particular case.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I'm not saying that Lebron is sitting there in the interview,
But what I am.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Saying is you are not acting without knowing that Lebron's
not gonna pitch a hissy.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
You're not doing that period, and if you are, it is.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Such a high level of NBA twenty twenty four malpractice.
The Lakers should be stripped of their logo if they're
out there doing that. And by the way, he wouldn't
still be there if they were doing that.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Well, I think he's here for other things.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
This first spot Lebron wanted to be in and to
finish out in. We know that he has a lot
of business. His kids are here, so I understand that aspect.
I understand, Hey, you can go play for one of
the biggest brands on the planet earth for basketball, be

(11:53):
in the city you want to be where you have
multiple houses, where your kids go to school.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Like, I get that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Like, I understand that. It's not It's not like, oh gosh,
I got to play for the Laker. It's not one
of those situations. So when we sit here and say,
you know, where's Lebron gonna go?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Milwaukee? Right?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Is he is he at this point in his career?
Is he moving to Atlanta? I don't Right, if he
doesn't take his player option, is he is he? Is
he going to the Knicks or the Brooklyn Just in
terms of life, his family and what he has set up. Right,
we saw another superstar mortgage off his family and in

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hopes of continue to play. I don't think this is
one of those type of situations. That's why I don't
think Lebron is gonna leave. Uh And I think ownership
knows that.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I could be wrong. I'm just speculating. This is my opinion.
I'm just guessing. Yeah, I'd be surprised to be leaves too. However,
ownership has already at least floated two ideas this offseason
that would suggest that they're terrified that he's going to leave,
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we're dealing with rumor and innuendo. I get it, e,
I really do. But one of the only two things
we have heard, and WOJ has had his name behind both,

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and I believe that man when he speaks. The two
things we've heard since the Lakers bowed out two things
that they are willing at least willing to explore. Number One,
we might hire Lebron's podcast host as our coach. Number two,

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we might draft his son even though he can't play.
Those are both the acts of an organization that is
desperate to keep him and fearful that he won't stay. Agree.
I agree, Okay, okay, So that's that's my thing. And

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that age about to be forty years old, forty next season, as.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Great as he's as great as he still is.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
That feels senseless to me to be making decisions that
will last for five or six years in order to
die to keep him to stay, especially when his results
the last couple of years have been.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
What uh playing tournament, Yeah, tournament.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Year was a good A good year, man all yeaes year,
puttering along and then they get all the way to
the Eastern Conference. I mean the Western Conference finals.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Show sure a good trade, good heck of a season.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yep, injury bug really destroyed any hopes of making that
and the seeding right, you know, playing against the team
that has annihilated US eleven out of twelve times. Uh,
this early in the playoffs, it just didn't work in
in the lakers favor. Now coming out of that and saying, hey,

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you know, Darving Ham, I knew that was gonna happen,
just being there, just seeing why it just I mean,
it's hard to explain because you don't even really see
it on TV. But when you're there and you watch
what's happening in terms of you know, time out, adjustments, challenges.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
It's it's troublesome.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
And I'm I'm close enough to see what's going on
and to hear and so on and so forth, but
it's not. It wasn't working, to say the least. It
was like when, uh, what's the King's coach name? Mike Brown?
Mike Brown, like Mike Brown. When Mike Brown was there,

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I was like, Oh, this.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Is not it. This is this is awful. I'm like,
what is this? Okay? Something like it just doesn't fit.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
And so I look, Darvinham's a good coach, got a
championship with with Milwaukee as an assistant coach. He got
an opportunity to come in l a tough place to
get your first opportunity to coach. That's another reason why
I'm looking at JJ Reddick like, man, do you really
want to smoke? Do you really want to smoke?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
He probably does, right, I mean it's a good smoke.
You're in LA, Yeah, that's gonna like that name. Value
is going period through the roof. You coached the last
two years of Lebron's career or whatever, and and even
have a nice little playoff running there.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
You're not coming out of that with egg on your face, right,
So not.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
You know, there have been experiments, Luke Walton just all
kinds of stuff and you know this is this is
we know this is the end. One thing we do
know for sure, this is the end for Lebron, and
if they want to make his ending comfortable, make it comfortable. Okay,
all right, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fight you.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Right.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
It hurts me, I'm upset about it, but I'm not
gonna fight you, all right, because the bottom line is
the man's wearing a Laker jersey, He's won a championship here, he's,
you know, the all time leading scorer in the Lakers jersey.
All of these things that shine light on the team

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that I love. So I get it. I understand that.
I think it's awesome that he wants to play with
his son. I think it would be a heck of
a story if Brownie's drafted in the second round and
he's fourteenth on the bench. Because you couldn't tell me

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who number thirteen and fourteen are on the Lakers bench
right now. You can't tell me that that spot holds
ultimate value. So the people saying, whar they're gonna draft
the Sun he can't even play right now? What Okay,
tell me any team in the league with thirteen, twelve, thirteen,

(19:09):
and fourteen are going to change the outcome of your
season r series. I'll wait, it's not.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
That though, But what is no, well, what it is
is to me, it's more sort of emotional conceptual, you know,
like if you are using a second round draft pick
on Branni James, that is a second round draft pick,
like you're allowed to actually turn those into good players.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, but that's not what the Lakers do. We know
that they're not developed, but why not the Lakers. They've
never been a team to develop players. Like Magic Johnson
got to the Lakers, he was developed. Sure when James
Worthy got to the they were ready to go.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
You can get you can get someone in the second
round who can contribute right away.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Warriors just did it.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
They just got Trace Jackson Davis at fifty seven last year,
completely fantastic.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
And so there's an Okay, so how many other fifties
something picks?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Obviously it's a low percentage, but that's not my point.
You still got to take your shot. Yeah, but what
are you taking like the Lake barely even like first
round draft picks. So what are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (20:23):
And I'm just talking about in terms of the franchise,
How the franchise was has been put together over the years.
They don't value their draft picks as highly as other
teams do.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
And that's fair because they almost never end up being in.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
The top five and that's why they're like, eh, okay.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
But but I still think that you're like to say
that because it's the second round draft pick, it automatically
means it's the thirteenth or fourteenth player on the bench.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
It doesn't have to mean that it could be the
G League guy.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
It could be, but it could also be Draymond Green
or monoge No, like, it could be.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
So you just I don't know, you got two. You
just named two greats Hall of Fame greats out of.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Because it's just the first two that came to my
mind runs and it's running these playoffs.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
You're right, So what I'm saying is like, take a shot.
You might get a guy right and I get it right.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Like, and you got to remember, I'm a seventh round
draft pick, so I understand what that looks like and
what that feels like. But it's not a lot of
us is out there, no doubt it's not a lot
of But by.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
The way, there's not a lot of guys who are
hit in the first round out there.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
That is true, man, it's true, and especially in the NBA. Look,
first of all, the NBA draft is Brant right, good lord,
that's that's exactly what it's. It's not if there's no
Wimby in it. Are we caring as much if Wimby
wasn't in the draft last year?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
My dude, how many people even know that the draft lottery?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
They don't even know the draft order, they don't most
pop people don't know who got the number one pick
in the draft.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Absolutely, most people don't know. And everybody doesn't know, and.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Then nobody knows who that's going to be because it's
most likely going to be someone we've never seen play
basketball before.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's the issue.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Think about the issue, not to get off the Lakers situation,
but the issue the league has in terms of Defensive
Player of the Year, all three MVP candidates, six Man
of the like. Think about the awards, the Rookie of
the Year. They were dominated by foreign international players. Our

(22:43):
most prestigious awards were dominated by international players. So the
draft is going to be, you know, the lottery is
going to be full of players we've never seen, we
never even heard of for sure, never even heard of

(23:04):
So that's the issue keeping Lebron James happy and keeping
them in the league. I mean, the NBA is like, yeah, man,
it was five more if you can.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, I feel you.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
But at the same time, having heard of people should
not mean that, Like, we don't even care about the
picks we just had the NFL Draft. How many of
them had you heard of? Hey man, that's a whole
different can't even compare. But that is not even close.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
But the process is.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
The process is, we're looking for people, and if you
do a really good job, you can find people in
that draft who help you right away.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
But we won't know that, Like, we won't have any
idea how good the players who didn't play in March
and the tournament are.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
We won't know.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
And the majority of the like the two time player
out of the Year, the two time Player of the
Year and Zach Edie won't even be a lottery pick.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
The correct So we spent all.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
That time in March talking about him and how dominant
he was. He won't even be a lottery pick.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
But it's the Lakers front office's job to know who
those people are and to use the assets they have
to try to make their team better as opposed to
placating somebody who's forty years old.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
They don't care never, they don't care about those draft picks.
Well they don't, and I think they should. Yeah, I
mean they should.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
They might, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Look at him right now, look like a team that
might might want to go get a young player.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh I want to.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Go get a young player. You can get young players.
You don't need the one pick they have in the
draft to get him.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You don't. You don't need it. But what I'm saying
that they have.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Think about it, there's only six with a sixty two pick,
so something like there's only two rounds in the NBA. Yeah, yea,
so that one is not like they have seven picks
or seven rounds where they can find talent.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
All the more reason not to blow on.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
That and there and there, and in your opinion of
blowing something is can can be different.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Right, absolutely absolutely, And you know what, maybe Brownie James
is going to be that star.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Maybe, hey man, you know from what he did in
college last year. Nah, he needs some more work, but
he might as well get paid, go do on a
two way contract and be able to play with his
dad some days and then go down to the to
the I don't know, the South Bay wing Bats or
whatever they're called.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
The g T I don't know that that should be
their name. If it isn't, right, I like that. I
like that. All right.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Look, let's get Nick Cope in here and get everything
all all squared away out in the palibot going.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
No Steve tonight, but we're going. We got necked even
in the streets. Man, he had the clubs. Come on,
are you from what's up? Big? What's up?

Speaker 6 (26:05):
Good to be with you guys again. Yeah, the South
Bay G League team, they are very original with their nickname.
They are the South Bay Lakers, Southakers.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (26:16):
They were the Los Angeles d Capital Defenders for a
while before they just went to South Bay Lakers.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
So there you go.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
I think wing Bats definitely, you know a little more.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Right, little profestive, right, a little more punch, separate yourself.

Speaker 6 (26:34):
We do have Game four Nuggets and Timberwolves going on
right now in Minnesota. Just knocked down a bucket to
stop a twelve nothing run for the Nuggets here late
first quarter. It's twenty seven to twenty four in favor
of the defending champs. Who are trying to even this
series at two games a piece. This game is being
played in Minneapolis. You've got nine points for Nicole Jokics

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to lead Denver. Aaron Gordon has eight more fast start
for Anthony Edwards. He's up to eleven points to lead Minnesota. Earlier,
Pacers throttled the Knicks one twenty one to eighty nine.
That series now tied at two to two. Heading back
to New York and after the game, Tom Thibodeau didn't
have too many words to describe that one.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
They'll go behind early, didn't respond well, so better fix it.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
So work to be done for New York. Og Nanobi
missed the second straight game with a hamstring injury. Tyrese
Haliburton scored a team high twenty points. Atlanta Hawks from
that is who won the NBA Draft Lottery. It's their
first time in franchise history despite having just a three
percent chance to win it. Remember they were in the
playing games they were the ten seed in the East.

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Wizards will pick second, Rockets, third, Spurs fourth. Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Bruins currently lead the Panthers two to one heading to
the third period in Boston and is Florida leading that
series two to one. You have Game three coming up
at nine to thirty Eastern tonight, Canucks at Oilers. That
series at a game apiece. One game going on in baseball.
That's a break at the Mets one to one ball

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game in the sixth inning. Earlier Astros defeat of the
Tigers nine to three had vintage Justin Verlander at Comerica Park,
seven innings, no runs, two hits, his best start of
the season. Padre shout out the Dodgers for zip you
Darvish through seven scoreless show. Hey Otani out today with
back sorens, but he and Dave Roberts Bull said that
they expect o'tani to be back in the lineup tomorrow

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when La visits the Giants.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
And a couple other notes here.

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Brad Kislowski won the NASCAR Cup Series race at Darlington.
Roy McElroy won at quil Hollow, five shots ahead of Xanderschoffley.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Guys, back to you, okay, Nick, great to have you
good stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Appreciate that we are live in the tie rack dot
Com studios. Mark Willardy from salam along the lines of
these NBA series that we are watching and watched earlier
today a couple questions.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
You agree with me?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Here he this game we're watching right now, winner of
tonight probably gonna win that.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
You're great, Yeah, that's a yeah, because the momentum has
completely shift, and which means it'll continue to go in
that direction of Denver.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's it's it's hard to stop momentum when it shifts back. Right,
you win two on the road, right, and then you're
coming home off winning two on the road.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
It does something.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Right now, there's a little bit tougher to breathe up
there in the fourth quarter for opposing teams. Every shot
matters more like, you know, the onus is now on
a Minnesota and the pressure is off of Denver. So
you this is a must win for the timber Wolves.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yep, I agree, I agree. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
This is one of those situations where I mean, look,
we're not in the locker room. I can't tell you
exactly what it looked and felt like, but oh boy,
you win two games in Denver, and that team had
a playing flight and a couple of days to really
feel themselves, really feel themselves because America had decided within

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those first two games. Oh oh, the Timberwolves are gonna
win the NBA Championship. It wasn't just like, hey, nice
job to nothing lead on the Nuggets. It was you
have become the presumptive favorites to win the whole thing.
In that moment, you were the Western Conference favorite and

(30:38):
the Celtics are injured and I don't even know where
Vegas odds got to, but I know what most NBA
fans thought in that moment. They're like, oh my god,
Minnesota's on the track. They're gonna win this whole thing.
And I wonder that's my takeaway today. Now, they may

(30:58):
go win this game tonight. They're only down by five
here at the end of one quarter. They may go
win this one tonight. And maybe that's exactly what's going
to happen.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
They'll go win the NBA Championship.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
But I also think that when we talk about, and
we did for so long, the youth or the inexperience
that was at the top of the West with the
Thunder and the Minnesota Timberwolves, and we wondered how would
they hold up. Well, their play has been fine, but
I wonder, in a situation after winning those first two games,

(31:35):
if that's where the inexperience didn't show itself to where
for forty eight hours they were the focus of the league.
The media is in Minnesota talking them up. Anthony Edwards
is becoming, He's going from a star to a superstar.
And if in that moment they didn't relax a little

(31:56):
bit because the shure looks like they might.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Have, Yeah it it could be a lot, right, it
could be a lot.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Anthony Edwards was an absolute beast those first two games.
You control the flow of it, and they really, you know,
stepped into a position they hadn't been in since you know,
KG was there back when they made it to the
find the Western Conference finals.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
But it can all go away if you don't finish
the job. And we saw that in Game three where
Denver came out on a home on a away court
and just dominated took over the game, which we knew
they were gonna come to play. You know, all those
people saying sweep this and sweep that. I mean, they're champions.
They're champions for a reason. Way too much talent on

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that team. Uh, and it's gonna it's gonna be a fight.
And I think Minnesota understands that they're in a real brawl.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Now.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
You know, losing the first two games can give you
a false sense of of confidence. Oh ma, ain't nothing, man,
We're gonna We're gonna breathe through them. But if you
don't bring that same focus, if that same energy you
had the game one, game two on their court, coming
home with lackluster efforts, man, that's how you just sap

(33:17):
completely sap out your your momentum.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I think it's it's totally fair. Yeah, did they relax?
Is a question? And then in the other series, there's
a question about the process of the New York Knicks,
and we'll ask that coming up next with you from
Salam Mark Willard.

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Right Live ty rack dot com studios. Mark with a
y from Salam, Damn, damn. The timber Wolves are already
building themselves a little hole here, already down by fourteen
in the second quarter.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
It goes after getting this is after getting off to
a really good start.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
By the way, they got off to a really good
start hit his first four shots in a row and
everything was chilling, and then.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
This just whooped it.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
This is I gotta admit, man, this is surprising to
me after what we watched in games one and two.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
You're not wrong. These guys are champs.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I didn't expect them to go away, but making a
sixteen point lead for the Nuggets, this is this. This
performance the last two games so far here in Minnesota
is eyebrow raising, to say the least.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
No, it is.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
And they've come in and they're locked in. But that's
the heart of a champion. If you've if you've been
through it, if you've been there before, you know exactly
what it takes to get there again. That's the advantage, right,
that's the advantage. That's what it is. And so they've
locked in to a place they locked in last year
and and they're rolling, they're cooking, and it's gonna take

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more than you know, Anthony Edwards to pull them out
of this hole.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
What about it?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
And the defense that they played, yep, those first two
games was unmatched. We don't see the same urgency, the
same movement, the same harassment. It's not there. It's not there.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, it's like I said, the only thing I can
guess is that they on some level felt like they
had it.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
And we talk about.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Minnesota as if they're a young team like Oklahoma City,
and they're not. Anthony Edwards a young fella, but they
got Mike Conley and they got Rudy Gobert and they
like these people have been around the way for a minute,
and so that would surprise me.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
But you know how the narrative is gonna go.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
We're the ones watching this, and that's what it feels like,
because I can't I can't figure out another way to
explain looking that good and then looking this bad, other
than to think you thought you had it. We all
thought you had it. Well, yeah, man like swag.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
When you get your swag going, and it's it's you know,
you feel like it's we got this.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Man, were about to cook these dudes. Man, we were
gonna get a break.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
And when we started talking, and I'm not saying that
they were saying this, but that's the sentiment we got
watching them come out in game three, yep, yep at home.
It was not like, oh, we about to keep our
boot on their neck. That's not the energy they came
out with. At all.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Speaking of things that happened fast, the Indiana Pacers were
up by twenty one quarter in today and have evened
up the series at two too, And so yes, a,
I might have been wrong about the Indiana Pacers. But
for me, here's my bigger question, and this is what

(36:53):
the guys on inside the NBA were just talking about
an hour ago. Is TIBs wearing his team the leap out?
Because now Anonobe is hurt Josh Hart, you know, I
mean he did today because of game flow, But Josh
Hart doesn't come off the floor. We know that Brunson

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is being asked to shoulder as big of a load
as anybody in the.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Entire league right now.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
And the Knicks are in a spot where it's like
the longer these series go, you know, even they even
got wobbly there at the end of the Philly series
for a minute. And really that game, that game that
went their way, if it hadn't it got so close
there in game six, If Philly pulls that out and

(37:45):
you end up in a game seven, it can easily
just be well, who got hot like that?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Like that series could have gotten away from them.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
And now to watch them do this their performance in
Indiana this week was not good, not close. Like I
just you start to question, especially because of his way.
We all know who Tims is. Rub some dirt on it,
get your butt back out there and let's go like
he's mister tough guy.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
I'm still waiting.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
He's been around for a couple of decades and I've
still never seen a smile. I haven't seen it happen,
not planning on having it happen, and so I don't
know does that does that work? When you just it
just feels like he's grinding his team's gears all the
way through.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
This At this late in the season, you cannot play
six people. You can't play six players. It's just not
I mean at the especially in these series.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
This is a high, fast paced series.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
This isn't a take your time, set up the half
court offense.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
This is literally this is this is fast paced.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Up and down, up and down, up and down, makes
miss it doesn't matter, and you need to get guys
where It's like Josh Hart came out of the game
for the first time, and then the playoffs they're pretty
much in game three. I believe like it. It's not

(39:19):
sustainable and Indiana that's the pressure. When we talked about
Indiana and the Bucks series, I mentioned that's the pressure
they play with. They don't care. They want to go
up and down the court and going against and going
against a team that was older, that's gonna be tough
for him, right young, they're young, they're going and they

(39:41):
don't care if you make it or miss. They're attacking
the other end at the same speed and the same rate.
And we're seeing that and now it's become a war
of p attrition. Ojon Andobi goes out with the hamstring
that hurts him. I mean, Josh Hart is leading the
playoffs and rebounds. He's what six ' four six three.

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It's just a lot of pressure to put on them.
Jalen Bronson's on one foot and to ask him to
score at the clip he's been scoring at with his
frame and his size, it's difficult. It will wear down
on you. And that's what we're seeing, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
And I like you even look at the performances the
Knicks had in their first two games in this series.
They won them both, but man like, as you said,
this is fast paced, they needed to score north of
one twenty.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
There were controversial calls down the stretch.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
This easily could have gotten away from them, and it
feels like it's getting further away. Look, they sit here
too too. They've still got a home court advantage. But
what kind of confidence do you have in them to
win two out of the next three Looking the way
that they look.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Right now, Mine is very low. It's very low.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
It's very low because you know what they need to do,
you know, And the energy of the Garden is something else.
It's a wonderful place to play for home team and away.
I mean, it's just a magical place. That's why they
call it the Mecha basketball. But it's a lot of pressure,
all right, Knicks fans will turn on you now, they

(41:14):
will turn on you.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I don't know if they were ever with you to
begin with, you know.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Okay, earlier in the hour, we talked about Lebron and
his son. There's another superstar in his son that needs
to inspire a conversation that we'll have next on Fox
Sports Radio. Like we said, we're gonna be just fitting
this in wherever it gets in. We're watching the Wolves
and the Nuggets, taking you.

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be My Manny from I need your help with this one.
You scar from here?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
You be you boy? Are you perfect for this?

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Let's talk about in a sports way.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Dads and sons.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Okay, maybe I shouldn't do this on Mother's Day, but
I am.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Okay, Well, hell we're working on Mother's Day, so here
we are.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
So this is inspired by some comments that I saw
from Jerry Rice, the Great Jerry Rice. His son, Brendan,
wide receiver at USC was drafted by the San Diego
Chargers of Los Angeles and was a seventh round pick.

(42:54):
Jerry has been very outspoken with regard to that being
somewhat of a snub.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Now.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
The twenty two year old Rice Brendan was quoted yesterday
as saying, my dad was hot. You guys get the
flash like the humble dude, right, But with me, he's
like hell no, We're gonna take this to a different level.

(43:23):
These guys gonna feel us Ephraim. I got knocked off
course a little bit by the word us. I got
knocked off course a little bit by the word US there,
and I don't This is why I want your help.
I don't want to act like I got any idea

(43:44):
what it's like to be a pro athlete. Maybe someday
I'll know what it's like to be the dad of
a pro athlete. These three that I got can can
move the ball around a little bit here in different sports.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I doubt it, but who knows.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
I only say I doubt it, not because I doubt that,
but I know like it's a one in a million shot.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
But whatever, that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
The larger point is, especially when you are one of
the all time greats and your last name is Rice
in football, or your last name is James in the NBA,
I feel like if I were them, I would be
going out of my way to take the pressure and expectation.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Off of the kid, not put it on.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
And it feels to me sometimes like Jerry Rice and
Lebron James have made a very very big deal about
the future pro prospects of their sons. I don't know
if that's the best thing for their sons. And I

(44:56):
especially had the eyebrows go up with the quote, these
guys are gonna feel us. What exactly is it, Jerry,
that you are going to do with Jim Harbaugh, Justin
Herbert and the San Diego charges of Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
What do you think? Uh? Yeah, you know, Look, I
get it.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
We understand why Jerry's upset. But Jerry's had experience with
this being underestimated, and so the work ethic is the
work ethic. Being verbal about it doesn't change what you

(45:47):
have to do. It just puts a spotlight on it.
Now people are waiting for you to fail. Probably the
best thing that ever happened to this kid was getting
drafted in the seventh round because the expectation isn't there.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
It's not there.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
So you couple that with the expectation of wearing that
name on your back.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
It could be a lot. Yes, it could be a lot,
like crippling a lot. Brendan has an older brother. You
want to know what his name is, Jerry, Jerry Rice Junior.
Want to know what he tried to do for a living? No,
tried to be a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
You want to know what it.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Was like, because I've had blessed to have had this
conversation with him. I want to know what it was
like to walk into an NFL locker room and your name.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Is Jerry Rice Junior. Oh, don't worry about that, don't
try to live up to anything.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Oh goodness, Just be Jerry Rice Junior and be a
wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's a lot. It's a lot.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
It's a lot, and just in namesake, right, and drive
yourself crazy. But being in a position to where you
have an opportunity to go out and play. He got drafted,

(47:15):
so I think he's in the perfect spot. He's got
a good coach. And oh, by the way, he has
a quarterback he does so all that precision route running hands.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
DNA. I thought it was good. I thought he was
a good college player. I did.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Now he has an opportunity to make a name for
himself with lower expectations.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Perfect situation.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
No need to shine a light on a Jerry because
there's no us.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
It's a hymn. It's a hymn, right, unless you're coming
out of retirement, which, by the way, I mean he
probably would like to.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I mean, if you're not, if you're not a forty
nine er fan, you don't know the guys out there
in a suit running routes before the games every week,
and there's something both awesome about it and at times
a little cringey. It's like, you know, and I know,
you know what I mean. It's like, ah, Jerry, like

(48:26):
that's cool. Steve Young's in a suit, you're in a suit.
You guys are still throwing routes to each other, but.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Like, it's not your time anymore. It's not your time. Look,
we get it, we understand what it is. It's let
the man. Let the young man live out his dream
through his lands, through his eyes. Don't put that added
pressure of we in us right, are gonna make you

(48:58):
guys pay. Just let him go out there and learn
how to be a pro, and go out there and
like guys with a hundred times more talent than his
son couldn't even come close to his dad. Think about that, right,

(49:24):
Terrell Owens, Larry Fitzgerald, Randy Moss, to name a few.
So don't don't heap that on him like that, right,

(49:45):
you don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
It's not fair to him. You just mentioned an interesting name.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
How many of our listeners know that Terrell Owen's son
also ended up on an NFL roster drafted free agent
grabbed by his former team. One of his former teams,
San Francisco forty nine ers, Tariq Owens. Oh, I missed

(50:14):
Terrell owens press conference where he got mad that his
son didn't get drafted.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I missed that Randy Moss's son. There you go, right,
I mean, that's like, that's how I do it.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
But I also have no clue what I'm talking about
in this arena? How what are your what are your boys' names?
Rashid and Elijah Okay? And which one's the old one?
Rashid Rashid Okay? And he's what eleven twelve twelve?

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Like in.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
If we get zero interest, I know, I know, let's
do Eliah.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Okay told me many times. You tell them that you
play football so they don't have to, So I don't.
I don't expect this. But if they were to get
drafted by the Atlanta Falcons and one of them is
an offensive lineman with the last name Salam, I mean,
are you.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Running laps in front of the cameras? No, we are
we're going to take this league.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Over what I mean, if that were the case, they
would be more prepared than any other player going into
training camp. They would be more prepared because they would
have it. I would give them. If they would have everything,
they know exactly what it's like, what they need to
work all of it.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
That's easy.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
And that's the approach you take as a dad with
the child playing the same position, that's a that's a
that's approach.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yep, you know.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
So for me, look, it's basketball, it's all. It's basketball.
For my youngest phenomenal baseball player. Win the playoffs. By
that we won our first playoff game uh Friday for one.
Just to shout out to Royals.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
That's amazing. Congratulations. Right, So on to round two, Round two.
So you know I have an athlete. My oldest wants
to be an engineer. Okay, great, have to be six
nine six six eight engineer. I'm okay with that. Hell
I was six to eight writer. Yeah, so I hope

(52:27):
the only thing about that engineer idea, you know, like
at least the jobs that I have, like those tech engineers,
they gotta they gotta fit in.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
All those little spaces.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
When he want to be any of those You're not
gonna fit in there.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
You won't be fitting in any of those things.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Well, he could be head engineer, he could hire like
he want person he wants to design roller colls and
saying do you do realize that there's gonna be a
come a time where you can't even fit in the
roller calls? He was, Oh, no, no, no, I'm anna design
him for for for people your height. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Like I don't want anybody getting decapitated because they're they're

(53:07):
seven feet tall.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
When do we go to Disneyland and all that, You know,
I spend a lot of time waiting outside to ride
for everybody.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Y yes, I would pay money to watch you try
to get in the matter of Bob's loom. That would
be incredible. Gosh. Anyway, I find this fascinating. And by
the way, how do we liken this conversation to the

(53:37):
way lebron has handled it. We can get into that
coming up next with the from salam Mark Willard. This
is five Sports Radio, Okay, Tyrack dot com Studios. That's
e from Salama Mark Willard. So here's my only question.
When we take the conversation we were just having about

(53:58):
Jerry Rice and Rice Lucky Brendan. Apparently he is going
to have a Hall of Fame backpack as he starts
his NFL career because they're gonna feel us, says Jerry.
What about lebron Here's my question. I don't know where
the Bronny situation is going to go. Un Like any

(54:21):
other human being, the idea of a father and a
son playing on the same NBA roster is phenomenal, unbelieved,
It's a phenomenal idea and just like would be an
incredible story. Here's my question though, in watching Bronnie grow
and all that he's been through, which has been a lot,

(54:44):
did we need to know about this in terms of
him wanting to play with his son. Well, look, some
of it's obvious. You would want to play with your
son speaking.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Into existence man, Yeah, okay, the power of thought of
putting things into the universe.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
But you could do that on your knees next to
your bed at night.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
No, No, because the powers that be to make that
happen need to hear it out loud, do they.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Wait a minute, yes, he's been able to change coaches
without saying it publicly.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
We've already been through this.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
He's literally been able to force his will on multiple
organizations his entire career, and the whole thing is built
on plausible deniability, which is only in place because he
doesn't say it out loud. Right, he traded Andrew Wiggins
for Kevin Love. He didn't tell us he was going

(55:42):
to do that, but he did it.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
He did it.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
So my point is, the kid's name, for God's sakes,
is Brawny. He's in glitzen glamour capital USA, He's the
son of the player of the last two decades. All
of this pressure is inherent, and obviously Lebron would love

(56:12):
to play with him.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
But did we need did we need the weekly.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Blow by blow and the plan and the WOJE stories
about how the Lakers are open to play kating Lebron
by drafting, I mean all of it. And again my
only question is did all of this help Bronni? I
get that it helps Lebron.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
I definitely it. Look at this point it is possibly
going to get him drafted when he's nowhere near ready
to be drafted.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
So is that good for him? I mean, is that
good for his career?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Because he's also allowed to go play three more years
of college basketball, And I could make the case.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
I would say it would be better for him to
go play. But I mean, when you look at it
like I mean I would, I would suspect unless he
figured to be a lottery pick at some point, which

(57:21):
is probably two three years away, and if you're in
college for two or three more years making it three
or four, Yeah, not gonna be a lottery pick, just fy.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
That's there's no maybe not senior. You're right, You're you're right.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
So if he's not a one and done, a diaper
dandy this and that, getting to the league as quick
as possible whenever you can, then yeah, you take that approach.
And that's the bottom line because outside of that lottery pick,
the top fifteen, hey man, and even I would say
outside of the top ten. Right, the NBA is such

(58:03):
a different animal than the NFL. Oh completely, there's no
special teams in the NBA right there, Like you can't
get your career started on special teams, right and make
a name for yourself and be like Slater who played
for nineteen years and fifteen of them we're all pro

(58:25):
special teams, right, Like you can't. You can't hide in
the NBA. And so at this point, if he's not
going to be one of those lottery picks, then get
him to the league as soon as possible, because the
longers he's in college, the further away from a viable
lottery pick he becomes.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
So what's the difference? Does that make sense? It makes sense?

Speaker 2 (58:50):
But I don't know that you and I can sit
here and answer the idea that, like, so Lebron wants
to play with this kid, right, has anyone ever.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Asked his kid? Do you with your dad? Has anybody
ever asked him? I'm sure why would with your dad? Well,
and there there you go.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Would you get a genuine answer even if you did
ask him that, because we assume, but you're a dad,
I'm a dad. They're going to get to a certain
point where they're like, you know what, I actually don't
want to just like follow you all over the place.
And and I think I could easily make the case
that it's at least worth discussion that I haven't heard yet,

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that maybe this isn't the best thing for Brownie's career,
and not about draft status or or the money that comes.
But a man needs more seasoning Like it looks as
clear as day to me, and we're all hell bent
on well, but they need to play together. It's like

(59:57):
nobody has stopped to go what happens? Then they play together,
and then Lebron leaves?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Now what now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Bronni is sitting there, he's twenty, he's not good, he's
not ready.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
We achieved our goal.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Off, Lebron goes into the sunset and Bronni does what like,
I'd probably suggest you should go back to college. Now
you should go play there. Yeah, you're not allowed to
do that. So that's my only question. Are we so
hell bent on the cool story and the celebrity that
is Lebron that we're forgetting to ask what's actually best

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for the kid.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Look, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Bronnie would benefit from being on an NBA roster with
his dad, one of the greatest to ever play, the
work ethic, just being able to learn from one of
the greatest top three greatest players ever to play, that's invaluable.
Be on the road to understand what that's like, to

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deal with the things that come with being a pro,
and having your pops, who's cool by the way, be
along that journey for at least a year with you.
I think there's nothing but a benefit to have that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
I hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
That's just my thoughts. Everybody and I get it, But
I don't want to act like a I know the
dynamic there. I don't want to act like I know
what Bronni is emotionally and mentally ready for I mean,
the very first thing you said about all this, which
I wholeheartedly agree with, is that carrying that name around

(01:01:47):
and playing the same sport is a lot so not okay.
So now we're not going to just carry it around
with us. We're going to go be next to it
and be measured by it. And then we get to
do that maybe for a year, and then and then
he doesn't get to be in his father's locker room.

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His father will be in row two eating popcorn, checking
it all out, And and where's Brownie?

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
High likelihood he from? Still not ready? Is what I is?
What the likelihood is?

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Ready? Are you ready for? Ready for the show? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
But I mean but what at what aspect? What would
ready to start? Ready to come home? No brand play
three four minutes a game?

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Look, go look at minor league baseball, and and you
know baseball your son is a baseball player. There there
are reasons why highly touted prospects. You don't just call
him up like your team might be in last place. Well,
why don't we just all our kids up? Let him play?

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Because when you go to the show and you're not ready,
it messes with you and it can ruin you. And
Bronni is not ready. I don't know if he ever
will be, but my god, if there's one thing clear
in this story, he's not ready. So my question is
what's the motivation to rush him there when we know

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he's not ready? And I have a hard time believing
any answer that doesn't start and end with we're rushing
him there because that's what lebron wants. I get it, which,
by the way, is the answer to everything around this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
But what if Bronni wants that as well?

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Well? But you don't, like, you don't just get to
go pro because because you're not ready.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Oh my god, I'm watching this Minnesota game, right Paul ANTHONYE.
Towns get he falls, Rudy Loburr comes over to help
him up. He falls on top of Look, now they're
both everybody's He's like, wait, wait, wait, let me help you,
let me oh slip he Oh my.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
Goodness he Rudy is cleaning the floor with his butt.
They're fine, they're just tired. They're just getting their butts kicked.
That's what's time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
You Look. Look, they came out the second half on fire.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah, four threes in a row, but they can't get
any stops.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Rudy's knee buckled.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
They can't get any stops. So they're scoring, but they
can't get any stops.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Yep, yep. Down by sixteen seven to fifteen to go.
Third quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
But we didn't need to tell you that because here's
Nick Cope. He's gonna tell you all about everything that's
going on on another busy Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Hey, Nick, what's up? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Guys?

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Yeah, not getting stops is the name of the game.
Remember Minnesota's defense getting all kinds of love early on
in this series. But Denver has been shooting near seventy
percent the entire game. They dipped down a little bit
currently at sixty four percent. So that's why they've got
an eighty one sixty six lead in Minneapolis. Approaching the
midway point of the third quarter. Aaron Gordon has twenty

(01:05:08):
one points to lead the Nuggets. Nikoley Jokich with nineteen
point six boards, six assists. Jamal Murray has poured in
seventeen as well, and it was Murray who had the
fifty five foot buzzer beater at the end of the
first half.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Loose Paul Jokich.

Speaker 7 (01:05:24):
Front court quarter two heads, Denver dropped sixty one UF Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
They throw it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Away very three.

Speaker 7 (01:05:33):
Ye oh my god from behind the half court line.
Everybody's falling a slate except for being Jabal Murray.

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
Heye knocked that DG Home Altitude Radio network on the call.
So it was a seven point game with less than
a minute to go in the first half, but that
sequence crucial. Denver scored eight points in the final thirty
three seconds and they have continued to surge offensively, still
leading by fifteen midway through the third quarter. Earlier, Yeah,

(01:06:03):
the Pacers defeating the Knicks one twenty one to eighty nine.
That series now town at two to two heading back
to New York. Tyres Hall Burton scored a team nine
twenty points. Ojan and nobyfore the Knicks missed the second
straight game with a hamstring injury. Atlanta Hawks won the
NBA Draft lottery for the first time in franchise history,
despite just having a three percent chance to do it.

(01:06:24):
The Wizards will pick second, Rockets, third Spurs. Fourth Stanley
Cup Playoffs, Game four between the Panthers and the Bruins
has wrapped. Boston had a two to zero lead after
the first period, but Florida came storming back. Now they
puck rolled on by bark Obb into the slot makes
the most.

Speaker 8 (01:06:42):
Shutty stores Darkhub win a movement on that, and he's
able to give the Panthers their first lead to the
game twelve. Putting on to go in the third, quark
Up got throw everyone himmy swimming and the captain right
the two to two tie.

Speaker 6 (01:06:55):
HiT's three to two Panthers here in the third, five
to sixties Forts, they'll be qam. They're on the call.
Alexander Barkoff the game winner. Panthers hold on three to
two the final. They take a three to one series
lead on the Bruins. Got the Canucks at the Oilers.
Game three of that series tight at one apiece. That's
coming up momentarily. In baseball, Braves and Mets still battling
Atlanta with a three to two lead and they're at

(01:07:17):
the plate in the top of the eighth inning. Brad
Kislowski won the NASCAR Cup Series race at Darlington and
Roy McElroy won at Quell Hollo.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Guys, back to you, Nick, great stuff. Appreciate you all
for all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Mark willard E from salam Our Tea Wolves Nuggets watch party,
the Tea Wolves are still trying to hang in this
thing and beautiful shot there by at a second ago,
they've got it to thirteen. I was thinking about this
and for those of you who aren't watching the game
half court plus buzzer beater by Jamal Murray, keep his

(01:07:51):
name in the back of your mind.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
As you answer this question. Do you have any issue
with Nikola Jokic being named MVP of the league? No
best playing the league? Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
The only interesting point I heard against it, and I
hadn't thought of this before because I had no issue
with it either.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
I think he has an unbelievable effect on so many
so this is sort of an unfair way of looking
at it from one angle. But we know in the
NBA people get very very triggered if the best player
doesn't shoot the last shot.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Remember everything Lebron went through because he passed. He passed
in big moments at times.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Of course, as is the case with everything Michael Jordan related,
we just forget the stuff that we don't want to
talk about because I remember Steve Kerr and Jim Paxson
hitting shots too, which means Michael Jordan passed the.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Ball to them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
But this kind of really was given rise during the
Kobe era. It was just like that Mamba mentality thing
was like, if you're that dude, you have got to
take the shot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
I don't care if you force it. You got to
take the shot and hit the shot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
So some of the NBA brethren are looking at Nicola
Jokics and they're going, how can you be the MVP
when there's a tie game and there's ten seconds left?

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Y'all put the hands the ball in the hands of
Jamal Murray.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
The funny part is those same people neglect to look
at the thirty eight, fifteen and twelve stat line for
the final shot.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Get out of here with that man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
That hell's no bearing whatsoever, Oh's no bearing whatsoever. He's
a walking triple double as one of the highest IQ's
on the basketball court and there's nothing he can't do.
The offense runs through him. He's a in a time

(01:10:01):
where no other team has that, no other team centers
don't even getting drafted. I talked about it earlier. Is
that idiot two time player a year. But that's part
Drew Timmy two times player a year. Where's Drew Timmy
is g League? He's playing for the wing bats. He

(01:10:25):
wishes he's playing for the wing Bats. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
So it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
At a time where the center position has been removed,
they don't even but they don't even label it for
All Stars anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
They're just well, that's right, right, right, it's literally been removed.
Well except for that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I you're you're right, But I sort of felt like
in the last couple of years, led by Nicola Jokicic,
the center position is kind of a thing. Again, look
at what the te Wolves are doing. Don't forget about
Joe l Embiid. He won this award last year.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Okay, so let me ask you a question.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
Yeah, no other center in the league plays more with
their back to the basket than the Joker in terms
of jumping it down to him in the post. When
I say center, that's what I mean, Karl Anthony Towns shooting.
They don't even pass the ball to Rudy Gobert when
he's open under there, which I think is a mistake.
I think, so this is well, listen, this is what happens,

(01:11:25):
and this is what I've been watching. A good friend
of mine is on that coaching staff, so I'm going
back and forth with him. When the Joker's garden, Rudy
Gobert and Anthony Edwards comes across and the Joker is
now they have Rudy at the high post. Then the

(01:11:46):
Joker comes out and double teams the ball. Rudy dives
to the basket. You'll see him waving his hands all
the time you watch the game. You'll see him doing
it seven eight nine times a game, just waving his hands.
They don't throw him the ball. What that does not
throwing the balls, he can turn around and shoot the
ball even though he's standing under the rim. He's seven
to one, right. But what it does is it forces

(01:12:06):
the defense to rotate. If you don't use him, and
you don't force the defense to rotate, then you're just
getting double teamed and You're not allowing anyone else to
get open, right, you throw it to Rudy, Rudy turns,
the wing defender collapses, Rudy kicks it out for the

(01:12:29):
open three. He's there underneath the rim for the rebound.
That is basketball. It works at any age. That's the
problem with not throwing the ball down to the wide
open center in the middle of the lane when his
man comes to double above the three point line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Does that make sense? I try to tell everybody you
could coach the Lakers. I mean, but.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Yeah, no, no, you makes sense. So I'm Rudy's not
a dominant, get the post, put you in the rim.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
He's not the job. He's an odd player. He's an
odd player.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
But what happens is, even if he turns to take
that shot, the small guard guarding the weak side wing
is going to foul him. If anything, you can get
the team in the penalty early in the quarter. All
of these things help you. But you not passing him

(01:13:28):
the ball and waiting for the joker to go back
to find him. That's not doing anything. You're not You're
not You're not making the other team pay for for
forcing a double team above the three point line, that's
crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
You said earlier that the NBA Playoffs are about adjustments,
and it's very obvious in watching these first four games
that the Nuggets have made adjustments and the Timberwolves have not.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Been able to evolve out of them yet.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
As if he yeah, we'll see if they can get
it going here in this last quarter and a half,
because both of you and I agree that if they don't,
they're probably going to lose this series, which would be
shocking after the way it started. But more on that
coming up, Because I think most of us started these
NBA playoffs largely thinking that one of two teams was
going to win it all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
That number has grown to what.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
We'll fill that in coming up next with Everam Salam,
Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio, LIVENTHETIRAG dot Com Studios. If
I threw this at you, what would you pick? Nuggets, Celtics.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Or Field? What would you pay Nugget Celtics.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
I think that's where most of us were before the
playoffs started, most of us. But now the Timberwolves winning
these first two games in Denver or has has at
least momentarily changed that. We'll see if we'll see if
they can make a run here in the fourth quarter.

(01:15:09):
They've got it within striking distance. It's not likely, but
it's not out of the question that they still win
this game and go up three to one, but certainly
enter the tea Wolves into the party. I think you've
got to take notice at least of the Dallas Mavericks,
and I'm not giving up on Oklahoma City.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I know they're babies, but they're good babies.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I put it this way, before the playoffs started, I
pretty much thought Nuggets or Celtics, and now as injuries unfold, Porzingis,
the landscape of the league starts to unfold.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Like I've now opened it up to at.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Least as many as four teams maybe more, who have
a real puncher's chance at winning this.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Thing if Porzingis comes back, And as much as it
pains me to say this, the Celtics, I think if
he doesn't come back, then it'll probably be the winner

(01:16:23):
of this series that we're watching now, Minnesota, Denver. I
think the road in the West is considerably harder than
in the East, and so.

Speaker 6 (01:16:43):
I just.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
In my opinion, I think whoever comes out of the
West has a better opportunity to win the NBA Finals.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I really if you had made me pick one team
go back a month, I would have said, I think
this is the year for Boston. But yeah, the the
injuries and the road that gets traveled here, ech, I'm
definitely starting to waiver on that. And you look at

(01:17:22):
the four teams in the West, and all of them
are a formidable task.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
Yeah, they can go because they have size and.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
Rim attackers, right of size, shooting and the ability to
get in the lane and get any shot there on.
I mean that's a that's a dynamic recipe for success.
And you look at the remaining teams in the West,
they all have them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
They all have them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
You look at what's going on in the East. There's
no real size outside of I mean porzingis right and
he's not and and beat is gone gone.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
No real length there. The Knicks have zero none. No,
the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
The Knicks are the Knicks are an amazing story, right, Like,
so it's not it's not their time, no, No.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
I mean the crazy part is if they would have
still had Obi topping, it would have been a better
situation for him. I mean, I mean it's been he's
been tremendous for uh Indiana. It's been great.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Yep, yep. Well the Anonobe thing is also Yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
A hamstring too, so that no matter what you I
don't know if you know our listeners out there have
a pooled your hamstring. Hey man, that thing could take
a month.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Here's what I know about hamstrings.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
The second you're like, okay, it's all better, it is
not take off at full speed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
It's gone talk to me on the sixth step on
the city. Oh no, it's back. Yeah, man, those are hard.
And so he's not sup. He obviously didn't play today.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
He's very unlikely for game five, but we're acting like
and that means maybe he'll be back for game six.
I don't know that I buy that. And by the way,
if they lose game five, this thing, this thing might
end really fast. This thing might end really fast for the.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Next Yeah, it's I mean to put all of that
on the shoulders of how tall is Bronson six one show? Yeah,
to put all that on his shoulders, he's hobbled. That's
a lot, you know, And look, de Vincenzo has been
the you know, Villanova knicks have been amazing they've been amazing.

(01:19:49):
But when you got to hit every shot you get,
you get nothing at the rim. Really, that's a tough
way to live because inevitably, everybody's not gonna beyond you
know what I mean, everybody's not gonna beyond Like and
I'm just watching, you know, Nikola Jokic right now in

(01:20:13):
the post assert himself over the defensive player of the year.
That's the problem you're going to have. Is that going
to be Porzingis or Al Harrington if these two meet
in the finals?

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Good luck with that? Good luck? Yeah, no, you know,
Porzingis don't want nothing to do with the paint.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
It doesn't matter even if he wanted it, And not
a damn thing he could do about this guy.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
So he got two seven footers in the starting lineup
for Minnesota, plus six ' nine wing, six nine wing
and a six ' five rim assaulter. Her and the
struggling Big Time.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
We will take you, however, through the fourth quarter of
this game. Lots still to go, long way to go
with this one. But the NFL is next. The importance
of a wide receiver. You'll be interested by these numbers,
will share them next down the stretch they come and
the Nuggets are still up by twelve nine.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
Minutes to go.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
And every time Minnesota does a little pump fake like
we're coming for you, Jokis just has the answer. Man,
it's just too much, but we'll see. Still plenty of
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buying should be in the midst of all of this basketball.
I saw this on Twitter from the Great Warren Sharp
and it is getting a lot of traction on social
media tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:22:00):
Most expensive wide.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Receiver rooms in twenty twenty four and before I get
into it, list some of the teams, the numbers where
they sit. How do you answer that question? How important
are the wide receivers? I'm just talking about affecting women.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
I mean, I would say they were fairly important. It's
really hard to just put a value outside of the
quarterback position on a specific group, quarterback on offensive line
outside of that, because it depends on your scheme. It

(01:22:49):
has a lot to do with that. So, like any position,
in the NFL. You you need it, and you know
you need it when you don't have it, you know
what I mean. Like it's one of those situations, yeah,
where it's important when you don't have it, you don't

(01:23:11):
have any whiteouts, then it's ultimately important if you got
a best running game in the world I mean acts Tennessee, right,
So it's a situation where there's a value to having
wideouts that you can depend on that can take the

(01:23:34):
pressure off quarterbacks. You can say the same for running
backs as well. So it goes hand and in especially
if do you run more two back do you run
more with very few teams that do?

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
Now do you run more three wides four wise quads?

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
So it all depends on your scheme, uh, and what
you're trying to do and what you're trying to force
the defense to do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Well, you tell me if this is a little bit
of an inverted pyramid. And I'm going to admit there's
a little bit of a weakness in the conversation in that,
like every other human being on the planet that doesn't
run an NFL team, I don't understand how the cap
works at all.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Like, good God, what.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Like In other words, Warren put this together and said,
the numbers are based on the total cap hit.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Well, I'll give you an example of what I don't get.

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Number nineteen on this list is the Eagles twenty seven
point six million dollars. Huh that like massive extensions for
aj Brown and DeVante Smith, Like, oh my god, tons
of money going into that room.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Somehow they're nineteenth on this list.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
But I also understand the intricacies of how this whole
thing works, and at least the concept of what Warren
is talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
So there's there's some surprises here. Here's another one.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
The forty nine Ers are number one on the list,
fifty five million, and that's before any Brandon Ayuk extension.
So I don't even know how the hell that's possible,
But I trust that these numbers are what they are,
And you tell me what story this tells. Listen to

(01:25:19):
the list of teams in the bottom eight, the bottom
eight on this list spending the least amount of their
cap in the league on the wide receiver room. All
in the bottom eight, the Chiefs, the Lions, the Ravens,

(01:25:39):
the Bills, the Steelers, and the Green Bay Packers. In fact,
the lowest in the whole league, the Green Bay Packers
because they're all pups, but they're also good.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
They're all so good.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
So say that again to yeah, the Chiefs, Green Bay Chiefs,
the Lions, the Ravens, the Bills, the Steelers, and the
Packers are six of the bottom eight. The other two
are the Cardinals they're not good. And the Chargers, Eh,
I can't they have been good. They're not good. We
think they're gonna be good. They just dump both their receivers.

(01:26:16):
That one's complex. But six of the bottom eight are
literally six of the top teams in the NFL. And
if you go up to the top and go, okay,
who are the good teams up there? Well, there's a
forty nine Ers. They're number one. Number two is the Seahawks. Like,
tell me, in this top ten, how many are like

(01:26:40):
true Super Bowl contenders? A couple of them. You're gonna go, well,
they are, and then you need to stop and think
about it. Number one is the Niners. Number two is
the Seahawks. Number three is Dallas, Number four is Miami.
Number five is the Bears, then the Raiders, Rams, Bucks, Titans, Bengals.

(01:27:03):
Now the thing about the Cowboys and Dolphins, you and
I would talk about this both in and out of
the football season. Last year, those two teams had good
records and good seasons. Yet I don't think either one
of them beat a good team all year except for
when they played each other. One of them had to win.

(01:27:24):
So they like, are the Cowboys and Dolphins really a contender?
They whimpered out of the playoffs? So is this an
inverted pyramid? To a degree?

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Is spending big on the wide receiver room preventative? Oh yeah,
especially if you draft well? Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
What I say preventative, I mean are like, is spending
a lot in the wide receiver room a detractor to
doing well?

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
So there's another caveat yep, do you have the quarterback?
Let's say I do. Then to get an A plus
receiver with an A plus quarterback, you have to do it.
You have to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
It bowls well for you. I mean there's an outlier.
Of course, there's a Patrick Mahomes. How many teams has
practicck Mahomes one? And that's it's not gonna be another one.
So coming when you say A plus quarterbacks, who who else?
Justin Herbert is an A plus quarterback even though he
hasn't won anything.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Is Josh Allen? Josh Allen is an A quarterback. Is
Joe Burrow? Joe Burrows an A plus quarterback? Is let
me give you a couple more names. Jackson is an
A quarterback. What's Rock Purty? Brock Party is is A
plus A quarterback? Okay? What's Tua? Tua is a A

(01:29:05):
B B minus. Dak is a B. Okay? What's Jordan Love?
Jordan Love is a C. We don't know what he
is yet, Okay, I mean I I think largely what
you're What's Jalen Hurts? Jalen Hurts is a B. He's
a B. Okay, he's a bit. He's not.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
You know, when once you get into the A category
A plus quarterback, then I mean you're you're you're up
there right in every year in in the conversation of
uh leading the league and passing, you know, barring injury
or something like that, like you're you're, you're right up
at the top.

Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
YEP, that's the way I see it. The problem is
is that you have the A plus. You said, if
you compare the A plus quarterback and the A plus receiver,
you've got to do it. You gotta actually, well, yeah,
I know, but that also we're get two years away
of that costing one hundred million dollars for those two players.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
One hundred million. Your quarterback is about to make sixty.
Your receivers are. It's cold world out here, man, But
guess what it will.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
It's a slide. Remember when receivers weren't making money like
that anymore? Then they and it was all in the
running backs, and then they shifted back to the receivers.
Running backs can't get a dime. So it's ebbs and flows, man,
it's ebbs and flows, right, And it's predicated on what's
going on and who's winning the Super Bowl, how they're

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winning it. Those create your trends. Those create your trends,
and so it's ever moving. It's ever moving.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Is anyone doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
By the way, the A plus QB and the A
plus receiver we're on the same team? Does that exist
right now? And then no, no, Burrow and.

Speaker 9 (01:31:05):
Chase, Oh that's that's A plus A plus Okay, So
there's one. Yeah, that's abody else. You didn't give dak
An a So I didn't give that. No, I didn't
give him a CD.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
That's that's a no. Uh, you gave Josh Allen and
a but they got rid of their receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
We don't know yet in Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
Wow, oh yeah, that receiving corps. Yeah, that hasn't to
focus yet.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Tremendous promise, but we don't know yet, correct, We don't know.
And you didn't give Jalen Hurts an a. You know
what the quarterback I didn't ask you is c J Stroud.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Oh he's on his way to be an A on
his way. Oh yeah, he's he's a high B right now.
And Stefan Diggs is an A. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:31:59):
So what happens is coming off rookie success, there is
a tape. There's a tape on you. Teams can prepare
for you now. Now, if you can come out and
be a rock star in your second year, you got to.
You know, you get your letter. You get your letter, right.

(01:32:21):
You're not catching anybody off guard anymore. They know your strengths,
they know your weaknesses, and now they're going to game
plan around those. They're going to force you to do
the things you don't like to do and take away
the things you like to do. So this next year
for CJ is a huge year, and he came out
and said, I mean he loves this year because he
doesn't have the distraction of the draft. He can just

(01:32:43):
focus on his craft. Right, So you would expect, especially
the money they've put into, you know, getting him the
talent on the offensive side of the ball. I mean,
this should be a breakout year for another breakout year.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
They got a lot of They got a lot of stuff.
I mean they are ready to go. They are locked
down a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
And JJ Wisse said he ready to come back as well.
Demo calls him, Yeah, well he's noticing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
He's like, wait a minute, right, Okay, not done with
the NFL because it's something else we got to get to.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
First off, shortly after the show, the podcast goes up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
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Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
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(01:33:54):
I'm Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio, Tyraq dot Com Studios,
Mark Willardy from Salami. You know what they say from
the series doesn't start until someone wins on their own floor.

(01:34:17):
There's two twenty to go, they're down nine. The Nuggets
are gonna win this game. Well, yeah, they can't get
a stop. I mean, they come out, they came out
fire and they were hitting. You can't do anything with
this man with the ball right now, the joker, he's
making every play the right play.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Yeah, I gotta tell you, especially in that game two.
I had never seen him get guarded like that before.
Oh it was she was blustered, unbelievable, flusteredable and get
a shot off. Yeah, and I just I didn't It's
like I didn't see that coming. And he's arrived in

(01:35:01):
Minnesota and whatever he was missing, he found it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
So it's tortun and they just had a triple team
on them, torturing them.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Defensive Player of the Year.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Can't do anything with him, can't do any man, I mean,
And to make an argument that he's not the MVP
because he's not taking the last shot, I.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Mean, and it's cliched to say what I said earlier.
Everyone is saying it winner of tonight wins the series.
I mean, you know, would you be shocked if if
Minnesota shows up in Denver in a couple of nights
and wins Game five, I'd be surprised. I wouldn't be shocked,
not with the way this thing has gone. So I
don't know that the series is actually over. But goodness

(01:35:49):
can't stop him.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
When, yeah, when Thursday afternoon, when I took a little
bit of a long weekend this weekend, when I took
off from war on Thursday afternoon, if you told me
this thing was going to be tied after four games,
I'd have called the police, Like what, I did not
see this coming at all. And Denver in these two games,

(01:36:16):
I mean unbeatable. You play like this, go ahead and
start engraving the name again. Yeah, it's not much you
can do. And it's led by Nicola Jokicic you know
thirty three seven and seven, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
All right, we're gonna circle back to that as they
come down the stretch, minute to go, and the Nuggets
are are down right now by by nine, so they're
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
The NFL schedule comes out on Wednesday, and this flew.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Under the radar because it's one of those stories that
came out two months ago and you're just like, yeah, whatever,
Like I'm not thinking about that in March. But it's
going to become a story again this Wednesday, and then
as we get into the season, it's going to become
even more of a story because of the leap year

(01:37:20):
Christmas this year falls on a Wednesday, and the NFL,
after seeing the ratings last day years, they're.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
Like, you know, what I think we should do is
probably do that all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
But the only time we've ever seen something like that
on a on a Wednesday was COVID. So even I
sit here right now and I'm like, okay, how are you?
How are you playing a game on And by the way,
not just one, two, two games on a Wednesday, And

(01:37:58):
you can't tuck it in with weeks and all this stuff.
In week eight, it's Christmas, the seasons about to be over.
They're going to grab contenders because that's what they do.
And those contenders i've read about this now, will be
playing three games in eleven days, right before the playoffs

(01:38:23):
get started. Talk to me Man, you've you've done this,
You've played these games. Talk talk to me about what's
actually happening here. Profit over health. Well, sure, but I
like that we know that part of the NFL. I
want to know how doable this is, this even is

(01:38:44):
and that's not doable.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
But they can. They can, They're gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
No, I mean for the player, I mean for the playoffs,
and how is this How is this going to affect
the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
It will dramatically affect the playoffs. Man, football is a
hard thing to play once a week, let alone twice
a week. But then you start talking about three games
in a short amount of time.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Man, So to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Accommodate this Christmas Day schedule, they will play games the
previous week on Saturday instead of Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
So that's in theory what it would look like.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
You'll have a team play on a Sunday, then they'll
play six days later on a Saturday, and then they
will play five days later. Four of them will play
five days later on a Wednesday. That's three games in
eleven days. That's oh oh, and you're on the road
for Christmas. I mean being on a roll for Christmas

(01:39:48):
and all of that. I mean, that's once you play
professional sports, especially the play in the fall, you give
up your holidays, Thanksgiving, Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
It is what it is, right like for you years
that was just it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
But you know, Christmas has been on Sunday before, It's
been on Saturday where you had to travel, It's been
on like.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
It's it's.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
You know, it just becomes part of the sacrifice having
a summer right, being able to go on a summer
vacation in July or whatever that is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:22):
It just give it all the way.

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
But it looked if there is a way, the NFL
will find a way, right they. I'm telling you when
Christmas fell on Saturday two years ago and they completely
took over, and the NBA was like, but this is.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Our day, not anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
They I knew for a fact, Oh it was its
over new for in fact, it was over huge day,
huge ratings.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Oh god, that Ravens forty nine ers guge at five
o'clock Pacific eight in the East on Christmas Night?

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Are you kidding me? I mean, who's not gonna watch that?

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
So that's they're in the business of monetizing the product.
It is the one thing in this country that dominates
no matter what day it is. It's the one true
thing that you can charge advertisers whatever you want to

(01:41:35):
be a part of period that in the Olympics, and
that only comes once every four years, yep. And sometimes
that's in the middle of the night, right most of
the time it's in the middle of the night that
I don't gearing up for the Paris Olympics. In a
month or so, two months I'll be up. Is that

(01:41:59):
comp advertising wise, I'd argue it's not. You know, you
said that you could do it any day of the week.
Not true. But I don't like the Olympics just in
terms of the amount of eyes, just the amount of
the amount of eyes. And that's including international too. The
football is just here, you know what I mean? Football

(01:42:20):
is just here.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
This quote from Roger Goodell. It will not be a
regular thing. It will be when Christmas falls on a Wednesday.
The time period between games has been done before. We
have not seen any elevation of injuries, you all. And
we have had a major focus on Thursday night when
we first put it in, and we've still not seen

(01:42:46):
any kind of elevation of injuries.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
So I think we have this down there you have
it and now you have Nick Kope. All right, thank
you very much. Mark.

Speaker 6 (01:43:03):
It is a final in Minneapolis, the Nuggets one fifteen
to one oh seven winners over the Timberwolves. The series
now tied add two games a piece, heading back to
the Mile highst.

Speaker 1 (01:43:15):
City.

Speaker 6 (01:43:16):
The road team has won the first four games in
this series. Every time Minnesota seemed to make a push.
In this game, well there was the League MVP.

Speaker 7 (01:43:25):
Inbound goes over to Gordon inside the arc, going to Yokis,
back behind him to Murray, Murray, back to Jokis Sloder.

Speaker 6 (01:43:32):
Good shot Thatablin didn't Altitude Sports Network there with the call.
Jokich finishes with thirty five points, seven rebounds, seven assists.
Aaron Gordon added twenty seven more for Denver, spoiled what
was a very good offensive night for Anthony Edwards. He
had forty four points to lead all scores, his fourth

(01:43:52):
forty point game of these playoffs, but not enough, as
Denver wins one fifteen to one oh seven. Earlier, it
was the Pace over the Knicks, one twenty one to
eighty nine. That series is now tied at two to
two heading back to New York. Tyres Halliboard. Haliburton scored
a team high twenty points. Ogannanobi missed a second straight
game four New York with a hamstring injury. Atlanta Hawks

(01:44:15):
won the NBA Draft lottery for the first time in
franchise history. Wizards will pick second, the Rockets third, and
the Spurs fourth. Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Panthers erased a
two goal deficit to beat the Bruins three to two.
They've got a three to one series lead, and then
at the end of the first period Game three, it's
the Canucks over the Oilers three to one. That series

(01:44:36):
tied in one game apiece. You had the Mets walk
off the Braves in the ninth inning a Brandon Nemo
two run homer. Mets get the four to three win,
and so Atlanta falls to two games back of the Phillies.
It's not the Al East. Philadelphia still owns the best
record in the majors at twenty eight and thirteen. Despite
losing to the Marlins seven to six earlier. Today, Astros

(01:44:59):
over the Tigers nine to three. Padre shout out the
Dodgers for nothing show. Hey Otani out today with back soreness,
but he's expected to be back in the lineup tomorrow
when LA visits the Giants. In NASCAR, Brad Keslowski won
a Darlington and in golf Roy mclroy one at Quail Hollow.
He was five shots ahead of second place Xander Schanfley.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Guys, back to you, okay, Nick, great stuff tonight. I
appreciate you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
Indeed, it is the final Nuggets have even the series
at two games a piece. You know what, we brought
up the whole Jokic MVP conversation earlier. I thought you
had some good points. But the one thing we didn't
get to in that is Jamal Murray. Like this is
almost like the opposite of the MVP. Is he the
most valuable player in the league that we don't talk

(01:45:47):
about that much?

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
Is that guy like the most underrated player in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
Yeah, because during the regular season he's very you know,
up and down up, and that's the Jokers team, so
you know, we get it. But in the playoffs, man,
this dude locks in. We saw it early on in
his career. Uh, in the bubble where you know him
and and what's his name from Cleveland? Him and Donovan

(01:46:18):
Mitche remember they were going back, Oh, my guy. I
was like, oh yes, So we were waiting for him
to come out the next year and be that guy.
He got hurt yep uh, and so we were just like, okay,
well but when it comes to playoffs, wow, man, Jamal Murray,
Now if he can consistently do it, because he'll give

(01:46:40):
you a stinker, like in Game two, eight point right, like.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
Like big shots, like big shots. We got it. He's
he's all in it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
This half this half court deal today, this this, you know,
the the buzzer beaters earlier against the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
I mean that just big, big time shots from this guy. Yeah,
he's something else. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
It is a I love watching them play because it
doesn't seem like it's too big. He just seems in
control no matter what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
I love that. I hate that he does it against us,
But in.

Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
Terms of a basketball fan, like I love watching him
and Anthony Edwards go at each other.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
Because that's what they're doing. They're fine. Do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Do you know one of my favorite things is about you.
There's a bunch, but one of my favorite things is
the whole. Like when a radio host calls a team
we or us is like a thing. It's a thing
like we're kind of you know what I mean. Like
if I do that, there'll be listeners who are like, dude,
you don't you don't play, you don't play for the

(01:47:58):
forty nine ers, like you stop the whole like the
we and the us thing. And I would imagine that
through the years, at times it's been a trigger for
the actual players with all the you know, people sitting
there eating hot dogs going yeah, we suck.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
It's like you're not you're not on the team.

Speaker 2 (01:48:16):
You're actually an ex athlete and you do that, but
for a team that you didn't play for in a
sport that you didn't play.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Yeah, that's fun. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
Look, man, Look the reason I can get on here
and speak the way I can speak about other sports
is because I'm a fan. Yes, like I'm a fan,
Like I really watched it matters, it means something. I'm
just not giving random takes, are you know, Like I'm

(01:48:50):
a fan of sports. I'm a fan of competition, so
watching you know, basketball, like I love you know my
love for basketball. Oh yeah, I know you love it
more than football. I do, Yeah, I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
At our we had a gala two weeks ago, and fancy.

Speaker 2 (01:49:13):
I mean, honestly, nobody goes to like a you know,
like a like kind of a half ass gala if
it's got the word gala and it is fancy.

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
It's a fundraiser for our school.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
Just uh so, you know, but one of our new
parents is uh uh Taylor Griffin, all right, and so
we we hit it off right away. Our wives knew
our wives knew each other before we met, and we
hit it right away. And we were telling these stories like,
in my mind, I chose football, but in my mind,

(01:49:51):
I know if I would have chose basketball, I could
have made it to the league.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
He's the opposite.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
He chose basketball, and he he knows that he could
have been in the league for ten years playing tight end.

Speaker 6 (01:50:04):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Uh you know, I'll lie Jimmy Graham.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
And so we we waxed poetic and talk and reminisce
about you know, he was recruited to play tight end
and all of that, and you know what could have been?

Speaker 1 (01:50:22):
I talk about it all the time. What could it
have What could it have looked like if.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
I chose basketball at the age I was graduating high
school and my abilities at six five, one hundred and
eighty five pounds, thirty eight inch vertical, scoring twenty four
points a game, twelve rebounds.

Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
I was sixteen years old on my way to thirty
eight inch vertical.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
Yeah, good lord, Yeah, I will put you in the rim.
Oh right, I could shoot, I could dribble the whole
nine yards.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
What was your vertical once you gained the offensive line weight?
I think it went down to like thirty one, cause
I get one hundred pounds in college.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
I love that you act like, oh, all the way
down to thirty one, that's like still double what I
would have jumped.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
No, But what I'm saying is you put like I
was one eighty five when I checked into college and
two eighty five when.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):
I left college. Aren't we all men?

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
So it was, you know, right around my sweet spot,
like when I was around eighteen nineteen years old, I
was around six six and a half, like two forty five,
that that would be a problem on the basketball court,

(01:51:43):
and so just thinking about how raw I was, we
you know, we talked about it all the time, and
I was like, if he lined up at tight end,
it's nothing, it's nothing. He's huge, there's nothing you would
have been able to do with his hands his quickness. Yeah,
good luck. So why did you go to the NBA

(01:52:04):
because it was a viable option? Like it like he
was literally saying, like, if the NBA wasn't a viable option,
I would have chose football.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
But most kids.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
The reason, one of the reasons I did take choose
football is because I just I knew how I felt
about the NBA and wanting to go to the NBA.
I knew how everybody I knew felt about the NBA
and wanting to go to the NBA. So I just
multiplied that by millions of kids all over at the
time the country, now the world, but the country, and

(01:52:37):
nobody was talking about going to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Got it? You thought it was easier.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
And I'm like, fifty three men on a on an
NFL roster, twelve on an NBA roster. I'm like, well,
I know I can be one of the fifty three.
I mean that sounds like a that literally My father
and I said, Now, we talked about this, and we
we lean towards football because basketball and football coaches from

(01:53:04):
colleges were coming to the house, some same school like
UCLA and all the day all came together and you know, hey,
you can do both, and so on and so forth.
So he was like, hey, man, eventually I got to
make a decision. So I love the game of basketball.
I study it, I coach it. I'm I'm I have

(01:53:24):
a love for baseball because I've studied it, I coach it.
I never grew up playing baseball, so when my kids started,
that was like, oh, I at least I've got to
be a part of this, you know. So I'm a face,
I'm a first base coach, and you know, we're out
there and we're plugging at thinking what eight eight years

(01:53:45):
in now in baseball. So you know, I enjoyed being
in my kids life and and and coaching them and
and having fun. And but I'm a fan of sports.
Love love you know, soccer, love the you know, I
love the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
You know, indeed, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:03):
All of the little all of the the sports do
we never get to see, you know, I love it Trampoline.
Oh I can watch trampoline all night, Caroline, all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
But look I love the story. I love I love competing.
So it's you know, this is a perfect outlet for me.
In terms of talking about sports, and of course football
dominates and basketball dominates in this country.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
But you know, I'm a fan, I love it and
live from the tyrag dot com studios.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
And one of the comments you made as a fan
last week is where we need to go next because
you predicted that Kevin Durant would be traded. I wonder
if you still feel the same way now that Budenholzer
has been hired. So we'll do that coming up next
on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're in the tire
Rag Studios, Mark Willardery from Salon Plank and Spend. You're

(01:55:04):
gonna be here in just about twelve minutes, so hang
out and we'll find out if the New York Knicks
are still going to get their revenge on the entire world.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
You still think Kevin Durant's gonna get traded? Yes? You do?
Is Bradley Bill still there? Yes? I mean unless, I mean,
in my opinion, it really wasn't the coach. It was.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
The structure of the team. Well defense for offense. Yeah,
tell me more about that though.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
So so what do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
Are you someone has to go? Obviously it's this three
headed monster is not going to work because it hasn't worked,
and bringing someone in and trying to make them make
you work with the same parts is a crazy thing
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
Well, I'm simply gathering by what I see what's actually
going on now. I do have some insight on how
things felt in the locker room there. They're definitely not
at each other's throats. It wasn't like that, but it

(01:56:26):
just never jelled and there was no alpha. Devin Booker
and Kevin Durant are both like sort of like alpha minus, Like, yes, right,
they're leaders, but they don't. They're not like that. They're
super nice guys. That's maybe part of the problem. But

(01:56:47):
here's what I gather. Follow the timeline. They get absolutely
beaten out of the playoffs in embarrassing fashion. Within a
few days, you're getting like the sham. WoDES reports that
Durant didn't love how he was being used. Okay, because
that doesn't sound just like a bad fit. That sounds like, eh,

(01:57:12):
the coach didn't know how to use me. He put
me in the corner and he just had me stand
there like I'm Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:57:20):
That was the first thing that happened. The second thing
that happened. Press conference is helled. James Jones is sitting
there doing all he can everything but openly beg Kevin
Durant to stay. He holds a press conference where he
talks about how no one has figured out how to
maximize Kevin Durant. Other teams around the league, Warriors, Oklahoma

(01:57:44):
City chuckle, but he says, no one's ever figured out
how to do it, and we are hell bent on
doing it because that's our future Hall of Famer. Essentially,
we're going to make it all about Kevin Durant. I'm
sitting here going has anybody checked on Devin Booker late?
How does he feel about this press conference? That's number one?
But number two that didn't to me sound like a

(01:58:09):
good press conference to hold. Then the third thing that happens,
you fire the coach. Fourth thing that happens, you hire
a big name coach with a championship resume. You put
all that together and it feels to me very similar
to the conversation we had off the top of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
Which it doesn't mean Kevin Durant's making the decisions, but
they are.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
All all being made with him in mind, right, But
so you're gonna do all those things and then trade him.

Speaker 3 (01:58:44):
So what we do know for sure is Kevin Durant
will ask out no matter what you do. Maybe, yeah,
I mean because that's been his history, that's been his
three They gave him everything he wanted. In Brooklyn, he

(01:59:04):
wanted out. He had everything he could ever ask for.
In Golden State, he wanted out. So I mean they
built the whole team around him. In Okay, see, he
wanted out. So what would lead you to believe anything different?

(01:59:29):
I mean he had Steve Kerr as a coach. Yeah,
then he had a hand picked coach. He had a
hand picked coach and Steve Nash At Brooklyn he wanted out.
So you telling me, well, they're trying to anything to me,
I'm just going off his past behavior. The fact that

(01:59:52):
Bradley Bill is still there with the crazy contract that
no one will ever take it means he's going to
be there. Devin Booker isn't going anywhere. How is it
going to work with someone different? No matter what you
drow up for Kevin Durant in basketball, the ball still moves.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
I didn't say it was going to work. I just
don't know, Okay, Okay, I don't know that the Sons
are going to do it. No one said the Sons
were smart, Okay, yeah, a brand new ownership group that
does not want to ruffle feathers too.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
Yeah, but at this point I think, I mean, they're
eating that contract, right. It was one it was one
year into a five year, thirty one dollar ye, So
they're eating that. So what could you get on the
open market for Kevin Durant? Could you make your team.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
Quite a lot, quite a lot good stuff tonight, Buden,
great great chatting with you for it from Slamma, Mark
Willard playing can spend your next

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