May 9, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris Plank & Eddie Garcia fill in for Ben Maller and talk about Rick Carlisle complaining about the consistency of the officiating after the Pacers loss to the Knicks, NIL discussion, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
He is the man, Eddie Garcia.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Buying should be.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I continue my kissing up of Eddie with Hockey News,
but I found this fascinating. According to Opti stats on
the X teams, there have been seven hundred and twenty
nine instances in Stanley Cup history of a team having
a three goal lead with twenty five minutes left in regulation.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
All right, there's there's the context.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Seven hundred and twenty nine times in Stanley Cup playoff
history of a team having a three goal or more
lead with just twenty five minutes left in regulation.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So what is that, Eddie? A period and a half?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, a little bit more than a period, Yes, Edmonton
tonight is the only one of those to have fewer
than five shots on goal the rest.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Of the way and lose in regulation.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They only had five shots on goal the rest of
the way and then lost when they had a well,
this was a three goal lead, it was four to one.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That's wild, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yes, it is wild, especially, you know, considering some of
the players they have on their team, in particular one
guy named Connor McDavid, who was really really good.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, Pie, I heard you and listen. I don't know
why I'm complaining about being up. I've listened to your
show the last two nights and I think it was
I think it was the Monday Night show Sunday Night
into Monday where you talked about the one team that
has constantly taken a squad out in the playoffs. Unfortunately,
(02:09):
Edmonton's been that for the Kings, so we know that
all too well. But you add that into the mix
with someone that Edmonton has on their side and he
still blow that lead, absolutely incredible. So does that mean,
and that's just game one, does that mean we look
at Edmonton as a little vulnerable here in this uh.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
In this match with the cover don't get to know,
don't get too excited about what happens in one game. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know what's funny.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Shifting over to the NBA, I have tried to be
a fan for the better part of my entire life
that says, don't lose your mind after game one, or
even in a playoff in game two.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I've always I feel like I've had.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
A benchmark take that nothing happens in a playoff series
until the road team wins a game. I don't need
to bring up the fact the King's won Game two
in Edmonton, but that's not what we're here to talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I fell.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I fell into the trap. And I don't know if
it's suddenly there's Homerism or what it is. But after
watching Game one of the Nicks and the Thunder, the
Nicks and the Thunder.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That'd be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
After watching Game one of the MAVs in the Thunder,
I thought to myself, this is over. After watching games
one and two of the Timberwolves and the Nuggets, I
thought these series are over. You know, there's certain times
where you watch maybe a younger group of kids that
just run all around the older group.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And that's what I feel like we're watching.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So I'm trying not to fall into that trap with everything,
but I am absolutely doing it in advance of tonight's
Thunder Nuggets game. And obviously, did I say Nuggets. I've
gotten playing everyone but the Mavericks. Playing in advance of
the Thunder Mavericks game and also in advance of the Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Keep rotating teams eventually, and.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Eventually we'll get there.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Hey, if I keep picking the teams that are alive,
eventually we'll get to the team that working.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I'm a sucker.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm falling for it right now, Eddie, I can go
back to, well, I remember four years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, I'm sorry more than that.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Decade ago, Spurs won the first two games of a
series against the Thunder, lost the next four. Okay, see
was up three to one over Golden State at one point,
lost the next three. We can go to the NBA
Finals with the Cavs and the and the Warriors, right,
But I just.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I don't know. I feel like Eddie.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Eddie Arnie always jokes about how his his way of
telling you why something has happened is this thing called
common sense, and I always laugh at it because I
don't think he knows any of the players on the team,
but he's got the common sense down right.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Like common sense is telling me.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm watching these two series in the West, and I
feel like the teams that are down, I don't feel
like they can compete.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Now again, we'll get to win to.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Nixon Pacers from tonight coming up a little bit later
on or last night. But are you kind of getting
that same vibe in the West right now that d
series are lending themselves towards a matchup between the Thunder
and the Nuggets. Maybe we're getting that too in the East,
But I feel like with another injury for New York
that's gonna I think their rotation is down to like
six guys, maybe seven guys.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Maybe that ends up being a better series.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
But I feel like in the West we are on
an absolute collision course, even with Jokic winning the MVP,
even with obviously Kyrie Irving and Luca over in Dallas,
I feel like we're on a collision course there. For
OKC in Minnesota in the finals Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, I'm still filling to give Denver one more game
to share the defending champ. I know, I know, and
they've got the NVP. I'm I know that the Timberwolves
have looked amazing and Anthony Edwards is so much fun
to watch and even me as like I said, a
non NBA customer, he has my interest. So that tells
you all you need to know. But I can't deny
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how good Minnesota has looked and to win two games
in Denver like the way they did is super impressive.
I'm just and I'm leaning towards that like you are,
but I'm just one more. I gotta give the Nuggets
one more game to see if they can do something
or not. I mean maybe that's just, you know, denying
the obvious, but I would say I gotta. I feel
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like they deserve as the defending champions, one more game
to show me that they can get back in the
series or not.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean, it's again, the road team won the first
two games in the series, which is an absolute kind
of shocker, and not just the fact that Minnesota won
the two games, but how they did it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
They dominated, they did it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Without Rudy Gobert yesterday, who suddenly is I guess not
soft anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
But all it takes is is one loss and.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Then suddenly, oh, what's going on here, You had a
two Z lead, you were dominating, you lost a game,
then that doubt creeps in. Minnesota's never been here as
a franchise. These guys have never been here as players.
So as much as I feel it, as much as
I feel like I've got common sense in my eyes
watching it, I know as soon as one bad thing
happens for either Oklahoma City or Minnesota, that is two
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franchises that have zero experience being in this moment, none whatsoever.
And it's cool that Gordon Hayward is on the is
on the thunder now, even though I think you ever
watch a guy that plays in a basketball game at
any level that you know he never wants to shoot
or have the basketball in his hands. Somehow that's what
happened to Gordon, And I don't know where that happened
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and where that change came. Wasn't he like the biggest
free agent get four years ago? Now he's terrible, but
you can suddenly get him Indiana right now, Indiana is
a team. Sure, Pascal Siakam has a ring, but everyone
else on that franchise, and maybe even to a certain degree,
the Knicks, they've never really been in this moment before.
So I can't wait to I can't wait to see
how OKAC Minnesota handle any adversity that's coming their way.
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And I think I'm with you, ed either the defending champs,
you got three time now, MVP, not go ahead and
bury them even though they've looked totally overmatch in the
first two games. Maybe a change of scenery will be
good for them, even though it sends them on the road.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, Like I said, I'm I'm probably agreeing with you
with your point. I think that it's probably it is
probably is over. But I just I'm willing to give them.
I think they've earned one more chance to try and
show me something.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Speaking of guys who have emerged and suddenly, I don't
want to say they become like folklore or heroes after
a couple of good performances. But I did not have
Dante deven Cinzo becoming an absolute rock star in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Once a high post pass Hartenstein into the corner.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Devincenzo right side not sit down for three Nicks lead
one to fifteen, one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Ten with four to fifteen to go, and deven Cinzo
wasn't done.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Drives on Hallibert right wing Devincenzo, and the next lead
by nine.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Six to eleven from a three point is Dante DiVincenzo.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The heck was that at the end of that Now,
obviously the Knicks held on and won the game.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Clock ticks down, precious of Chuwa, we'll dripple it out and.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The Knicks take a two games to nothing.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Lead, pulling out a one thirty to one twenty one
pick three over the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
You had three players scored twenty or more points for
the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Tonight. You had a team that shot.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I mean, you want to talk about ridiculous shooting percentages
almost sixty percent. They were fifty seven percent from the field,
they were forty seven percent from beyond the three point line.
I think Eddie had it in his update. Not a
forty point night for brunts, And of course he missed
the latter part of the first half with what looked
to be a foot injury, but he still finished with
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twenty nine points. I mentioned Evincenzo six to twelve from
me on the three point line.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He finished with twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But for the second game in a row, we have
a bit of a conspiracy moment. Game one, you had
the handball or see what is this soccer? You had
the ruling of the kickball. Whenever the Pacer player I
think it was Miles Turner at touched it with his hand,
but they still called it a kickball. That would have
been a turnover. You had the quote unquote illegal screen.
(10:19):
That was the least illegal looking screen I think I've
ever seen on what could have been the go ahead possession,
and tonight's I don't think was as bad as what
we've seen in the past. But with one twenty one
to go, after what looked like a turnover on a
double dribble or a carry in a six point game,
(10:40):
two possession game, the Pacers would have got the ball
back Eddie. Somehow the officials came together and I don't
think I've ever seen this happen on just a routine call,
and he called double dribble. Well, the replay showed that
there wasn't a double dribble, but.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
There was a carry.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I mean, the dude carried the basketball and that happens
every play in the NBA. And they got together and
they gave the ball back to the Knicks. Now again
six point game, no doubt about it. It would have
taken a herculean effort for the Pacers to get back
in that game. And oh, by the way, they weren't
necessarily shooting the lights out at that point from three either.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What do we make of.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Some of these officiating inconsistencies in that series? Does it
make you feel some sort of way about maybe wanting
to make sure the Knicks are in a position to
make the Eastern Conference Finals because they are New York
and because it is in high school. Bus don't believe
the conspiracies. I don't think anything is fixed, but it
just those are three major moments in two games that
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really seem to kind of lead fans to feel what
the hell's going on here with this right now because
they seem like pretty obvious mistakes that were made by
the officials.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, as you mentioned, we do live in a world,
it seems like where it doesn't take much for people
to believe in conspiracy theories these days. And there's any
sport other than boxing, I guess that lends itself to
conspiracy theories. I mean, we did have a referee who
was proven to have you know, fixed games. Yeah, so
(12:18):
it is the NBA. So I mean, look, Rick Carlisle
basically said it after the game. He took the high
road after game one and this one he's like, screw that.
You know, it's talking about how you know they deserve
a fair chance even though they're a small market team.
So he pretty much said, and look, I'm not saying,
you know, he's necessarily right, but he went on the
(12:39):
record as saying that he believes that New York is
getting calls because they're New York.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So after oh, sorry, I'm sorry, we're working on the timing.
We haven't worked together since Christmas. All right, here's exactly
what Eddie was talking about after game one.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
We we always go through the film and games where
it felt like, you know, the whistles weren't balanced, and
we pull the clips and there's a there's a way
you can submit them to the to the NBA office.
There were twenty nine plays in game one that we
thought were clearly called the wrong way. I decided not
not to submit them because I just felt like, you know,
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we get a more balanced whistle tonight. It didn't feel
that way. A couple of examples, five away to the third.
You know, the whole world knows that Hellburn's got a
bad back, and Heart comes up and shoves him in
the back. And it's all over Twitter right now because
a couple of people of a few people have showed
it to me and JB.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
De Ros is looking right at it. You can see him.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
He's got he's got vision of the play and he
shoves Ty right into the corner and there's no whistle
right in the back. And so that was that was shocking,
you know, And there there are many others. But I
can promise you that we're going to submit these tonight.
New York can get ready. They'll see him too. You know.
I'm always talking to our guys about not making it
about the officials, but you know, we just we deserve
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a fair shot, you know. And and it's just it's
just not it's just there's not there's not a consistent balance.
And that's disappointing. Give New York credit for the physicality
that they're playing with, but you know, their their physicality
is rewarded and and ours is penalized, just you know,
time after time.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And so.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
I'm just really disappointed, just really disappointed.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Brilliant strategic move, question Mark, are just whining? Question Mark,
which way would you go on this one, Eddie. I, well,
I will say I won't.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Say it's whining because of what you just talked about
it because of the listing of the calls, and uh,
we'll get the two minute report tomorrow. Right, how many
missed calls at the end of you're gonna admit that
there were. They did it in the first game, right,
they do it all the time. We we debated what
the what is the why do they do this? We
were talking about this on the show with Brian No.
Why why does the NBA assist on pissing their fans
(14:59):
off by admitting our referees suck? You know, what is
the point of that? And you know, we talked about it,
you know, transparency and all that seems like a good
idea that I don't know that it is. So Yeah,
I think he's obviously trying to politic for some calls
for his team.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Add this, I've watched every minute of this series. I've
watched every minute of the thunder run so far.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I can't say I watched every minute of the Celtics.
There are some.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Really bad games in that heat series, and I've watched
a lot of the Knicks first round. This has been
one of the most poorly officiated series I think I've
ever seen, and it seems very one sided. I know
I'm not here to try to story up tonight Knicks fans,
but even you've got to step back and say, yeah,
I got a few breaks.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Is any game ever going to be officiated perfectly? Nah,
It's just not the reality of it, even with all
the technology we have today. But I have never ever
seen a crew get together to overturn a double dribble call.
I've never seen, all right, care, I have never seen that,
and it just seemed.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
To come at the oddest time in that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Game, two possession game, big turnover would have given the
Pacers the ball back with a chance to cut it
to a one possession game or a four point game,
and you overturn a traveling call?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You know, what are we even doing on that front?
So good luck, Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I feel like it's always that fine line to walk
because there's a faction of fans that say, yeah, you
can never blame the officials for anything, but Eddie, at
some point you got to stand up and be heard
because you feel like it's just wrong. And I think
that's the level of frustration that they've reached in Indiana.
Are they blaming the officials because they lost the game. Nah,
but they are saying, listen, they're doing things that they're
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getting away with, and when we do them, we're.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Getting we're getting called for fouls.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And I wonder too if that's also kind of a
home court thing as well, right, Yeah, a little bit
being an MSG there.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, I think so. I think so. But this is
this one. I mean, look back when I used to
watch the NBA, this went on all the time, right,
this went on all the time. The coaches will always
do this, and so, I mean, and I always wondered,
I mean, do they really think that the uh, the
referees are watching Sports Center or whatever? I mean they
but I guess you know, what's what's the harm in trying?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I mean, you're gonna get fined, right, He's gonna get fine.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh about that? Gets fine and he's fine with.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But yeah, he's trying to trying to get some calls
for the next game.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
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for your team.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Do you hear and say, shut up, stop whining, be better.
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Speaker 1 (19:33):
There, Mark, I'll get it right to you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Can we carve out some time with Coop as well,
uh and in Lorena to talk a little bit next
hour about the response today from Rudy Gobert and missing
the game for the birth of his kid. I feel
like the crew has some hot sports opinions on that one,
just saying because I've had I'm on kid three, I
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think that should be it, at least the plumbing spin
fixed where it better be it.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Don't tell that to Antonio CRAMARTI I.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Know, right, but and I think there was another star
the other day who had a puck slip slipped past
the goaltender ended up having a kid when they were
my age. But I am I'm really intrigued by the
response to this because Eddie, I know you're younger than me,
but I distinctly remember nineteen ninety three when an Oilers
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player he got fined and mocked for missing a game.
The owner basically said he doesn't care about his team
because he missed a game for the birth of their
first child. And now we're in an era where I
think we're kind of struggling how to handle it, because
you know, it's I don't have a problem with it.
But then I also realized, like, bro, we don't really
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do too much a hiss. Dad's after that Golden Hour
and he kind of get mom food and really pretty
much it. But at that same vein, I don't want
to come across as like to sensitize the idea that
you're having your first kid. But it's a playoffs too, man,
we're gonna go bart. It doesn't have a ton of
playoff success. And yet I'm also like, it is his
first kid, so I don't know how to handle that one.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's been a tough one for me.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
In following from Afar and also I'm I was telling
Coop this during the break Addy. When I had my
first kid, my son who is now twenty Oh gosh,
she's gonna be twenty one this year. I distinctly remember
getting a call from my boss the next day when
it's like, well, are you coming in today. I'm like,
my wife just had a kid. He's like, you have
a show. I was like, okay, I'll be in, you know,
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because I have a job. I don't have billions in
the bank. But I think it's I almost feel Eddie
like it's been a big one to eighty how we've
handled this over the last at the very least ten
years with guys men and paternity leave. It's almost like
it's a completely different world. And when it hits our
sports world, I think there's a lot of us old
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school peeps that see that were like.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
He's missing a playoff game for that.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's the big debate for the Masters, right, whenever it's
like you might have to leave the Masters if you're
leading the Masters and your wife goes into labor. I
just kind of wild to see the way that we've
done a one eight in how we look at this.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly when it switched. It was
I guess a bit of a slow process. I remember
there was I think there was a Cowboys offensive lineman.
I remember that was in the news who missed because
of the birth. And I think Jerry Jones may have
had a problem with that. Yeah, I mean he was
old school, right, But it's turn now. We did have
a hockey player have a child and travel and play
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in the game. Brandon Carlo of the Bruins on the
same night as the Rudy Gobert. Yeah, his wife had
their son in the morning and he hit a plane
and went down to Florida and played and scored a
goal in game one of their series.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So real, men, We well, maybe get to that. We'll
get that coming up a little bit later on the time.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'm getting all my topics, I'm throwing I'm putting the
mixed together and I'm not putting the ingredients in the
right order.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So let's get to that in a bit.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I asked for your thoughts on Carlisle at eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. Mark in La has jumped
in here to give us his opinion. Mark, what'd you
make of the rant by Rick Carlisle? Welcome to Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
So I plank Yeah. To me, Carlo sounds like a clown.
If you're blaming the officials that your team choked and
you can't close out games when you're playing a Nick
team with half our team out, that's on them. You
had multiple even in Game one, they have leads molted
down the stretch there, turning the ball over, taking bad
possession shots. And let's say some man, as much as
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I hate to say, the Knicks have the best closed
in the in the sport right now. Jalen Brunson is
as good as anybody, and they've been doing.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
It all year.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
And if you don't close them out with Haliburton's get
out played there down the stretch, that's on your coaching
staff and not having mcmall out there, I mean, you
can pick it apart and I'm a big Joss hard
guy because I love him, men him a couple that
great dude. I wish we would have kept him here
before the Anthony Davis cared. It's just when you look
at Carlisle and his lotations, he's conting himself and they
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had multiple times with big leads down.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
In the fourth quarter. You blow it.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
That's on your coaching staffe. So you got to look
at himself saying, how the hell are we playing a
Nick team with Hacker team out with no bench, playing
their starters forty five minutes and we can't keep a
lead when the weird we should be dominating the boys.
So now you're going home, You've got two games. You
have no excuses. If you're the owner. Look at the
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Basers team, you have no excuses for losing this series.
They remember they were the betting favor coming into the
series because of all the injuries the Knicks fats. So
I know it's incredible as Jalen Brunson is and Hart
and Deevintenzo basically the Nova Knicks, they shouldn't be doing
what they're doing when you're playing a loaded Pacers team
who was the best offense in the league, and you
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got the benefit of the doubt playing a Bucks team
without Giannis. If I don't want to hear about any
referee calls, they choke down the stretch. That's the bottom line,
and Nick's doing what good teams do. Took it from them.
I just hate that in the NFL and any sport
when coaches cry about officiating when that had nothing to
do with you guys choking those leaves away and losing
the games.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Thanks, Mark, appreciate the phone call, and I think that's
what Chuck said afterwards too. I was watching them the
T and T post game show and getting ready for
our program tonight. You can complain all you want about officiating,
but Eddie, the opposing team shot sixty percent from the floor.
You can't allow that to a fifty nine point seven
or whatever. It was a shot almost fifty percent from
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beyond the three point line.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So you can.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You can yell about officials, and I honestly, I think
Carlisle has a point. I do, but I don't know
if that can become the genesis of your post game comments.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That can't become what it's all about. You can't start there.
It can't become the whole conversation. They got to play
better defense. Though I do fully back this series to
be even at two headed back to New York. We're
still doing two two one one one in the NBA. Right,
they change that again. They tend to shift about every
every decade. Right, Wait, hold on, we're only doing we're
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doing two three two. I like two three two. Actually
I was my personal favorite. But I would not be
surprised at all if it goes back to New York.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Nodded up at two.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
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Speaker 1 (26:28):
Do you buy into the theory? Do you buy into
the theories? We roll on on a catch what day
is it? Is it Thursday?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Now a Wednesday night to a Thursday morning officially past
midnight on the West Coast, So welcome to Thursday, everybody.
Do you buy it the theory that these series do
better with bigger market teams. I'm the TV ratings wise.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I would I would think that there's probably statistical information
that would back that up. That would be my my
off cough opinion on that. Yeah, I just I'm with you,
Although I will say, I will say, and you know,
it is hockey. But I remember when the Rangers and
Kings played in the Stanley Cup Final. I thought the
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ratings would be amazing and they weren't that great. They
were okay, but they were not what I thought they
would be. And I'm not talking about like overall, I'm
just talking about within NHL finals ratings, right, and that
was a surprising. So it's not always about that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
But I don't believe you need to be in a
major market to get all the endorsement deals like this is.
I'm not trying to bring a Sunday night fight that
I have with Arnie into a Thursday morning show with you, Eddie.
But we tend to go back and forth a lot
because and there's a large faction of people that think
you can't maximize your value unless you're in New York
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or LA. And that's the only I guess. It doesn't
matter what happens in you know, mid to higher markets.
If you're not doing it in New York or LA,
you're just not doing it. And that's I'm not going
to change those people's minds. But I feel like this
is more than just the New York market. I kind
of think the story with Brunson and being different. Most
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of your NBA stars are Lebron looking, right, They six
foot seven, just absolute beasts. And here's Brunson that looks
like in Ant's kind of like this too, Anthony Edwards.
I guess Aunt wouldn't be a good example. I'm watching
highlight of him right now. You're like, no, no, no,
he looks like a dude. Brunson looks like he shouldn't
be able to do what he's doing. Shorter guy. I
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think that's a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Of the story than just New York.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But I also think you pull back and you're like, yeah,
that's like number one media market right now. I just
don't know if the Knicks are that team. That's the
first question I had tonight whenever I was sitting down
and trying to come up with what we wanted to
talk about and what would be good for the show tonight.
I mean, if you're if you're putting together a list
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of the most media the teams that get the most
media attention, right, it would be what Dallas Cowboys would
be up there, right, Lakers would be up there very high.
In fact, if you're gonna fix anything. I think you
would be trying to fix it to make sure that
the Lakers would get there right with the coverage they get.
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I want to say, the Yankees, Yeah, there you go.
Would you I think I would probably throw the.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think I probably though this no what I throw
the Steelers in there?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Maybe maybe maybe My point is, I don't They've been
so irrelevant for so long. I don't know if I
automatically throw the Knicks in there, just like I wouldn't
automatically throw the Mets in there on the baseball side
of things, just because they're in New York, just like
I wouldn't throw the Angels in there just because they're
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in LA.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's right there in Anaheim. Let's make sure we get
that very clear. But on the other side of it,
though it is it is an obnoxious, freaking fan base. Man.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I cover college football, and every fan base is obnoxious
and out of control, and we just accept that. But
I kind of feel like Knicks fans do that as well.
It's kind of like the college mindset where they know
they're obnoxious and they know they're over the top, and
you can't do anything to stop them.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
The only thing.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Even losing won't stop them to a certain degree. But
if we're putting together the teams that seem to kind
of be a draw regardless. I don't necessarily know if
I put the Knicks in that category, but I definitely
put this resurgence of their fan base Eddie up there
amongst the most unbearable.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And maybe part of it is I have to do
a show with a Knicks fan.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Oh, that's a large part of it. That's a yeah,
because I don't feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
You don't. You don't think the Knicks or that Nick
fans are that I'm not.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I just think they've been so awful for so long.
You know that now that they're having a little bit
of success, I'm actually you're always say, I'm that's a
little much. But I don't mind it. We don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Actually, I guess I don't mind it.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
But and I said, the show I listened to the
most on Fox Sports Radio is probably Jason and Mike,
because it seems to be when I'm always in my car,
so I'm getting hit over the head with the greatness
of the Knicks all the time, and I'm like, I
don't even think I was alive the last time they
won the title. I mean the Knicks. The Knicks whenever
I was younger, what were they known for their their
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coach grabbing onto the leg of Alonzo Morning. I mean
that's kind of where the Knicks peaked right now.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Well, when when you look at how that factors into
it working with someone and hating a team, all you
need to know is we hate the Clippers on this show,
and they are the most irrelevant, non threatening, nothing franchise
in sports to me. So yeah, because we work with Ben,
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he's obnoxious. When you're ann octionous fan of your team
when they've never done anything, it makes the worse. But
so yeah, if you you work with a Knicks fan,
if we have been, we're a Knicks fan, I feel
completely different.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well, yeah, you were having it hammered over your head
every single night.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Maybe even a better example it comes to the other
two sports. Go ahead, because you know I'm a Lakers fan,
So I've always disliked the Clippers. You know, it's just
but you know, Angel, I've been an Angels fan. I
the Dodgers have always been my second team growing up.
I went to more Dodgers games, and I did Angels games.
I live closer to Dodger Stadium, and you know, they're
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in different leagues. I like, I liked both of them,
but until I started working here with Ben Maller, and
I hate the Dodgers now. And same thing with the Rams.
Were always my second team. Like when I started watching football,
there was no team in La, so I became a
Broncos fan, and then you know, I started to I
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kind of you know, I liked the Rams that used
to be in La, so I knew a lot of
like my you know, family, Rams fans, and so they
were always my second team. Now I can't stand the
Ram So I definitely think Arnie has something to do
with that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I think you're right. I think you're right, you know,
especially it's Arnie, that's true. And it's just there's there's
no gray air.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's either the greatest or the worst thing ever. You
would say it my comment wow wow wow. But I
just and again, I'm not trying to put this all
on this stinking genius, but I think I need to
right now because I do crack up whenever they show
the Gift of the Guy, whenever they they were doing
the bing bong thing like two years ago when they
started the season off hot and everyone's like, oh my gosh,
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the Knicks are amazing, and they sucked and.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I think they barely made the playoffs and lost in
the first round. So it's just, yeah, it's getting under
my skin. But I think I need to step back
and realize.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I think this might be more of a whom I'm
associating myself with Eddie than actually an entire fan base. Right,
this is more about the people I keep around me
than what an actual fan base is.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I haven't worked with in years, and I can't stand
the Dolphins because of him.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I mean, we might have a higher percentage of Dolphins
fans on the Fox Sports Radio roster.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
When No talks about him, like, yeah, that's a pretty
good point, I think, oh gosh, you well, there's a
couple of other things. But when Already talks about You're like, yeah, bro,
if you haven't won anything, like ever, what are you
doing right now?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't. Brian talking about him doesn't
bother me.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, He's like, oh okay, that's
pretty good perspective. Already You're like, geez, man. All right, Well,
when we come back to the Tirack dot com studios,
we'll hit a little bit of what Tom Thibodeau had
to say afterwards, and then our number three. I said,
I wouldn't get too much into some college or pro
football talk tonight, but there's a fascinating story making the
rounds involving everyone's least favorite topic in il. It's all
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Ben Maller. It's Chris Blank.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, we're gonna have a baby debate coming up next hour.
I just been kind of fascinated by the reaction to
Rudy Gober's decision that he made to miss the game two.
And there's there's a wild kind of historical precedence to
these types of decisions you were talking about, Jerry Jones.
(35:48):
I was digging into when the oilers find David Williams
back in ninety three. There's a I believe it's a
Peanut Tillman story that goes back, but yeah, here it's
I found an old pro football talk story and the
cow dare you miss games? And then I don't know
if they realized that people could find old stories, but
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then they had a new update on it. It's like,
here's another look at this, because we realize we may
sound like a holes on this, but I don't think
any opinion is out of mouths. We'll dive into that
coming up next and don't in our final hour. In
our final hour, Eddie Garcia is going to educate us
on the puck. We're gonna learn a little hockey in
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what's going on in the playoffs coming up here on
Fox Sports Radio. Now, before we before we wrap up
our number two allow me to slide into quick little nil.
Note I'm not a big fan of nil, but I'm
also not against it innil's name, image likeness. This is
the way they've gone around paying college football players. Essentially,
it's paid for play, but we try to shroud.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
It in.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Charity work and media work and things of that nature.
But it's it's paid for play in college football. So
tonight or late last night, Boise State's coach went viral
for all the wrong reasons. Because Boise State's head coach
Spencer Danielson, Eddie, I know you follow a little bit
more of the West Coast with Fresno State and the
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greatness of the Bulldogs. I don't know much about Spencer Danielson.
In fact, I don't know if I've ever heard that
name before in my life. Familiar to you at all?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
No, No, they had the last coach I remember, I
think was it Andy Avlo's. I think it was. He
was like a former linebacker. They fired him during the
season and then they went on to go to a
ball game.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So this story breaks where Ron Cownts, who covers the team,
says Boise State's football coach, Spencer Danielson said today incoming
freshmen are not eligible to make ni OL money, and
they went at every coach, wait, don't buy players, we
don't do this. And what's funny is old boy realized
that he might have screwed up his report and did
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the old Hey, here is the thread on exactly what
had happened, because I deleted the earlier tweet. Here's only
one problem. There's no thread explaining what the decision was
or what it actually meant. So you have this moment
where everyone's losing their mind about a coach trying to
say a class isn't available to make nil, but yet
there's been no further explanation after deleting the tweet. I've
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never been more confused about a story in my entire life.
But apparently freshmen of Boise can't make NIL money. We're
talking Rudy Gobernets on Fox Sports Radio
Little historical perspective.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
He is the man, Eddie Garcia.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Buying should be.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I continue my kissing up of Eddie with Hockey News,
but I found this fascinating. According to Opti stats on
the X teams, there have been seven hundred and twenty
nine instances in Stanley Cup history of a team having
a three goal lead with twenty five minutes left in regulation.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
All right, there's there's the context.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Seven hundred and twenty nine times in Stanley Cup playoff
history of a team having a three goal or more
lead with just twenty five minutes left in regulation.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So what is that, Eddie? A period and a half?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, a little bit more than a period, Yes, Edmonton
tonight is the only one of those to have fewer
than five shots on goal the rest.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Of the way and lose in regulation.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
They only had five shots on goal the rest of
the way and then lost when they had a well,
this was a three goal lead, it was four to one.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That's wild, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yes, it is wild, especially, you know, considering some of
the players they have on their team, in particular one
guy named Connor McDavid, who was really really good.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, Pie, I heard you and listen. I don't know
why I'm complaining about being up. I've listened to your
show the last two nights and I think it was
I think it was the Monday Night show Sunday Night
into Monday where you talked about the one team that
has constantly taken a squad out in the playoffs. Unfortunately,
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Edmonton's been that for the Kings, so we know that
all too well. But you add that into the mix
with someone that Edmonton has on their side and he
still blow that lead, absolutely incredible. So does that mean,
and that's just game one, does that mean we look
at Edmonton as a little vulnerable here in this uh.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
In this match with the cover don't get to know,
don't get too excited about what happens in one game. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know what's funny.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Shifting over to the NBA, I have tried to be
a fan for the better part of my entire life
that says, don't lose your mind after game one, or
even in a playoff in game two.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I've always I feel like I've had.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
A benchmark take that nothing happens in a playoff series
until the road team wins a game. I don't need
to bring up the fact the King's won Game two
in Edmonton, but that's not what we're here to talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I fell.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I fell into the trap. And I don't know if
it's suddenly there's Homerism or what it is. But after
watching Game one of the Nicks and the Thunder, the
Nicks and the Thunder.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
That'd be fascinating.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
After watching Game one of the MAVs in the Thunder,
I thought to myself, this is over. After watching games
one and two of the Timberwolves and the Nuggets, I
thought these series are over. You know, there's certain times
where you watch maybe a younger group of kids that
just run all around the older group.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And that's what I feel like we're watching.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
So I'm trying not to fall into that trap with everything,
but I am absolutely doing it in advance of tonight's
Thunder Nuggets game. And obviously, did I say Nuggets. I've
gotten playing everyone but the Mavericks. Playing in advance of
the Thunder Mavericks game and also in advance of the Nuggets.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Keep rotating teams eventually, and.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Eventually we'll get there.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Hey, if I keep picking the teams that are alive,
eventually we'll get to the team that working.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I'm a sucker.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm falling for it right now, Eddie, I can go
back to, well, I remember four years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, I'm sorry more than that.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Now.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Decade ago, Spurs won the first two games of a
series against the Thunder, lost the next four. Okay, see
was up three to one over Golden State at one point,
lost the next three. We can go to the NBA
Finals with the Cavs and the and the Warriors, right,
But I just.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I don't know. I feel like Eddie.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Eddie Arnie always jokes about how his his way of
telling you why something has happened is this thing called
common sense, and I always laugh at it because I
don't think he knows any of the players on the team,
but he's got the common sense down right.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Like common sense is telling me.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm watching these two series in the West, and I
feel like the teams that are down, I don't feel
like they can compete.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Now again, we'll get to win to.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Nixon Pacers from tonight coming up a little bit later
on or last night. But are you kind of getting
that same vibe in the West right now that d
series are lending themselves towards a matchup between the Thunder
and the Nuggets. Maybe we're getting that too in the East,
But I feel like with another injury for New York
that's gonna I think their rotation is down to like
six guys, maybe seven guys.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Maybe that ends up being a better series.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
But I feel like in the West we are on
an absolute collision course, even with Jokic winning the MVP,
even with obviously Kyrie Irving and Luca over in Dallas,
I feel like we're on a collision course there. For
OKC in Minnesota in the finals Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, I'm still filling to give Denver one more game
to share the defending champ. I know, I know, and
they've got the NVP. I'm I know that the Timberwolves
have looked amazing and Anthony Edwards is so much fun
to watch and even me as like I said, a
non NBA customer, he has my interest. So that tells
you all you need to know. But I can't deny
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how good Minnesota has looked and to win two games
in Denver like the way they did is super impressive.
I'm just and I'm leaning towards that like you are,
but I'm just one more. I gotta give the Nuggets
one more game to see if they can do something
or not. I mean maybe that's just, you know, denying
the obvious, but I would say I gotta. I feel
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like they deserve as the defending champions, one more game
to show me that they can get back in the
series or not.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I mean, it's again, the road team won the first
two games in the series, which is an absolute kind
of shocker, and not just the fact that Minnesota won
the two games, but how they did it.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
They dominated, they did it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Without Rudy Gobert yesterday, who suddenly is I guess not
soft anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
But all it takes is is one loss and.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Then suddenly, oh, what's going on here, You had a
two Z lead, you were dominating, you lost a game,
then that doubt creeps in. Minnesota's never been here as
a franchise. These guys have never been here as players.
So as much as I feel it, as much as
I feel like I've got common sense in my eyes
watching it, I know as soon as one bad thing
happens for either Oklahoma City or Minnesota, that is two
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franchises that have zero experience being in this moment, none whatsoever.
And it's cool that Gordon Hayward is on the is
on the thunder now, even though I think you ever
watch a guy that plays in a basketball game at
any level that you know he never wants to shoot
or have the basketball in his hands. Somehow that's what
happened to Gordon, And I don't know where that happened
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and where that change came. Wasn't he like the biggest
free agent get four years ago? Now he's terrible, but
you can suddenly get him Indiana right now, Indiana is
a team. Sure, Pascal Siakam has a ring, but everyone
else on that franchise, and maybe even to a certain degree,
the Knicks, they've never really been in this moment before.
So I can't wait to I can't wait to see
how OKAC Minnesota handle any adversity that's coming their way.
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And I think I'm with you, ed either the defending champs,
you got three time now, MVP, not go ahead and
bury them even though they've looked totally overmatch in the
first two games. Maybe a change of scenery will be
good for them, even though it sends them on the road.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, Like I said, I'm I'm probably agreeing with you
with your point. I think that it's probably it is
probably is over. But I just I'm willing to give them.
I think they've earned one more chance to try and
show me something.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Speaking of guys who have emerged and suddenly, I don't
want to say they become like folklore or heroes after
a couple of good performances. But I did not have
Dante deven Cinzo becoming an absolute rock star in the postseason.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Once a high post pass Hartenstein into the corner.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Devincenzo right side not sit down for three Nicks lead
one to fifteen, one.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Ten with four to fifteen to go, and deven Cinzo
wasn't done.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Drives on Hallibert right wing Devincenzo, and the next lead
by nine.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Six to eleven from a three point is Dante DiVincenzo.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
The heck was that at the end of that Now,
obviously the Knicks held on and won the game.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Clock ticks down, precious of Chuwa, we'll dripple it out and.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
The Knicks take a two games to nothing.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Lead, pulling out a one thirty to one twenty one
pick three over the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
You had three players scored twenty or more points for
the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Tonight. You had a team that shot.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I mean, you want to talk about ridiculous shooting percentages
almost sixty percent. They were fifty seven percent from the field,
they were forty seven percent from beyond the three point line.
I think Eddie had it in his update. Not a
forty point night for brunts, And of course he missed
the latter part of the first half with what looked
to be a foot injury, but he still finished with
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twenty nine points. I mentioned Evincenzo six to twelve from
me on the three point line.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
He finished with twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
But for the second game in a row, we have
a bit of a conspiracy moment. Game one, you had
the handball or see what is this soccer? You had
the ruling of the kickball. Whenever the Pacer player I
think it was Miles Turner at touched it with his hand,
but they still called it a kickball. That would have
been a turnover. You had the quote unquote illegal screen.
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That was the least illegal looking screen I think I've
ever seen on what could have been the go ahead possession,
and tonight's I don't think was as bad as what
we've seen in the past. But with one twenty one
to go, after what looked like a turnover on a
double dribble or a carry in a six point game,
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two possession game, the Pacers would have got the ball
back Eddie. Somehow the officials came together and I don't
think I've ever seen this happen on just a routine call,
and he called double dribble. Well, the replay showed that
there wasn't a double dribble, but.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
There was a carry.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I mean, the dude carried the basketball and that happens
every play in the NBA. And they got together and
they gave the ball back to the Knicks. Now again
six point game, no doubt about it. It would have
taken a herculean effort for the Pacers to get back
in that game. And oh, by the way, they weren't
necessarily shooting the lights out at that point from three either.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What do we make of.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Some of these officiating inconsistencies in that series? Does it
make you feel some sort of way about maybe wanting
to make sure the Knicks are in a position to
make the Eastern Conference Finals because they are New York
and because it is in high school. Bus don't believe
the conspiracies. I don't think anything is fixed, but it
just those are three major moments in two games that
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really seem to kind of lead fans to feel what
the hell's going on here with this right now because
they seem like pretty obvious mistakes that were made by
the officials.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, as you mentioned, we do live in a world,
it seems like where it doesn't take much for people
to believe in conspiracy theories these days. And there's any
sport other than boxing, I guess that lends itself to
conspiracy theories. I mean, we did have a referee who
was proven to have you know, fixed games. Yeah, so
(12:18):
it is the NBA. So I mean, look, Rick Carlisle
basically said it after the game. He took the high
road after game one and this one he's like, screw that.
You know, it's talking about how you know they deserve
a fair chance even though they're a small market team.
So he pretty much said, and look, I'm not saying,
you know, he's necessarily right, but he went on the
(12:39):
record as saying that he believes that New York is
getting calls because they're New York.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So after oh, sorry, I'm sorry, we're working on the timing.
We haven't worked together since Christmas. All right, here's exactly
what Eddie was talking about after game one.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
We we always go through the film and games where
it felt like, you know, the whistles weren't balanced, and
we pull the clips and there's a there's a way
you can submit them to the to the NBA office.
There were twenty nine plays in game one that we
thought were clearly called the wrong way. I decided not
not to submit them because I just felt like, you know,
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we get a more balanced whistle tonight. It didn't feel
that way. A couple of examples, five away to the third.
You know, the whole world knows that Hellburn's got a
bad back, and Heart comes up and shoves him in
the back. And it's all over Twitter right now because
a couple of people of a few people have showed
it to me and JB.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
De Ros is looking right at it. You can see him.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
He's got he's got vision of the play and he
shoves Ty right into the corner and there's no whistle
right in the back. And so that was that was shocking,
you know, And there there are many others. But I
can promise you that we're going to submit these tonight.
New York can get ready. They'll see him too. You know.
I'm always talking to our guys about not making it
about the officials, but you know, we just we deserve
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a fair shot, you know. And and it's just it's
just not it's just there's not there's not a consistent balance.
And that's disappointing. Give New York credit for the physicality
that they're playing with, but you know, their their physicality
is rewarded and and ours is penalized, just you know,
time after time.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And so.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
I'm just really disappointed, just really disappointed.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Brilliant strategic move, question Mark, are just whining? Question Mark,
which way would you go on this one, Eddie. I, well,
I will say I won't.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Say it's whining because of what you just talked about
it because of the listing of the calls, and uh,
we'll get the two minute report tomorrow. Right, how many
missed calls at the end of you're gonna admit that
there were. They did it in the first game, right,
they do it all the time. We we debated what
the what is the why do they do this? We
were talking about this on the show with Brian No.
Why why does the NBA assist on pissing their fans
(14:59):
off by admitting our referees suck? You know, what is
the point of that? And you know, we talked about it,
you know, transparency and all that seems like a good
idea that I don't know that it is. So Yeah,
I think he's obviously trying to politic for some calls
for his team.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Add this, I've watched every minute of this series. I've
watched every minute of the thunder run so far.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I can't say I watched every minute of the Celtics.
There are some.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Really bad games in that heat series, and I've watched
a lot of the Knicks first round. This has been
one of the most poorly officiated series I think I've
ever seen, and it seems very one sided. I know
I'm not here to try to story up tonight Knicks fans,
but even you've got to step back and say, yeah,
I got a few breaks.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Is any game ever going to be officiated perfectly? Nah,
It's just not the reality of it, even with all
the technology we have today. But I have never ever
seen a crew get together to overturn a double dribble call.
I've never seen, all right, care, I have never seen that,
and it just seemed.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
To come at the oddest time in that.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Game, two possession game, big turnover would have given the
Pacers the ball back with a chance to cut it
to a one possession game or a four point game,
and you overturn a traveling call?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You know, what are we even doing on that front?
So good luck, Rick Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I feel like it's always that fine line to walk
because there's a faction of fans that say, yeah, you
can never blame the officials for anything, but Eddie, at
some point you got to stand up and be heard
because you feel like it's just wrong. And I think
that's the level of frustration that they've reached in Indiana.
Are they blaming the officials because they lost the game. Nah,
but they are saying, listen, they're doing things that they're
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getting away with, and when we do them, we're.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Getting we're getting called for fouls.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And I wonder too if that's also kind of a
home court thing as well, right, Yeah, a little bit
being an MSG there.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, I think so. I think so. But this is
this one. I mean, look back when I used to
watch the NBA, this went on all the time, right,
this went on all the time. The coaches will always
do this, and so, I mean, and I always wondered,
I mean, do they really think that the uh, the
referees are watching Sports Center or whatever? I mean they
but I guess you know, what's what's the harm in trying?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I mean, you're gonna get fined, right, He's gonna get fine.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh about that? Gets fine and he's fine with.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But yeah, he's trying to trying to get some calls
for the next game.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
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Speaker 1 (17:39):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Do you hear and say, shut up, stop whining, be better.
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Speaker 1 (19:33):
There, Mark, I'll get it right to you.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Can we carve out some time with Coop as well,
uh and in Lorena to talk a little bit next
hour about the response today from Rudy Gobert and missing
the game for the birth of his kid. I feel
like the crew has some hot sports opinions on that one,
just saying because I've had I'm on kid three, I
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think that should be it, at least the plumbing spin
fixed where it better be it.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Don't tell that to Antonio CRAMARTI I.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Know, right, but and I think there was another star
the other day who had a puck slip slipped past
the goaltender ended up having a kid when they were
my age. But I am I'm really intrigued by the
response to this because Eddie, I know you're younger than me,
but I distinctly remember nineteen ninety three when an Oilers
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player he got fined and mocked for missing a game.
The owner basically said he doesn't care about his team
because he missed a game for the birth of their
first child. And now we're in an era where I
think we're kind of struggling how to handle it, because
you know, it's I don't have a problem with it.
But then I also realized, like, bro, we don't really
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do too much a hiss. Dad's after that Golden Hour
and he kind of get mom food and really pretty
much it. But at that same vein, I don't want
to come across as like to sensitize the idea that
you're having your first kid. But it's a playoffs too, man,
we're gonna go bart. It doesn't have a ton of
playoff success. And yet I'm also like, it is his
first kid, so I don't know how to handle that one.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's been a tough one for me.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
In following from Afar and also I'm I was telling
Coop this during the break Addy. When I had my
first kid, my son who is now twenty Oh gosh,
she's gonna be twenty one this year. I distinctly remember
getting a call from my boss the next day when
it's like, well, are you coming in today. I'm like,
my wife just had a kid. He's like, you have
a show. I was like, okay, I'll be in, you know,
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because I have a job. I don't have billions in
the bank. But I think it's I almost feel Eddie
like it's been a big one to eighty how we've
handled this over the last at the very least ten
years with guys men and paternity leave. It's almost like
it's a completely different world. And when it hits our
sports world, I think there's a lot of us old
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school peeps that see that were like.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
He's missing a playoff game for that.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's the big debate for the Masters, right, whenever it's
like you might have to leave the Masters if you're
leading the Masters and your wife goes into labor. I
just kind of wild to see the way that we've
done a one eight in how we look at this.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly when it switched. It was
I guess a bit of a slow process. I remember
there was I think there was a Cowboys offensive lineman.
I remember that was in the news who missed because
of the birth. And I think Jerry Jones may have
had a problem with that. Yeah, I mean he was
old school, right, But it's turn now. We did have
a hockey player have a child and travel and play
(22:38):
in the game. Brandon Carlo of the Bruins on the
same night as the Rudy Gobert. Yeah, his wife had
their son in the morning and he hit a plane
and went down to Florida and played and scored a
goal in game one of their series.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So real, men, We well, maybe get to that. We'll
get that coming up a little bit later on the time.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'm getting all my topics, I'm throwing I'm putting the
mixed together and I'm not putting the ingredients in the
right order.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So let's get to that in a bit.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I asked for your thoughts on Carlisle at eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. Mark in La has jumped
in here to give us his opinion. Mark, what'd you
make of the rant by Rick Carlisle? Welcome to Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
So I plank Yeah. To me, Carlo sounds like a clown.
If you're blaming the officials that your team choked and
you can't close out games when you're playing a Nick
team with half our team out, that's on them. You
had multiple even in Game one, they have leads molted
down the stretch there, turning the ball over, taking bad
possession shots. And let's say some man, as much as
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I hate to say, the Knicks have the best closed
in the in the sport right now. Jalen Brunson is
as good as anybody, and they've been doing.
Speaker 7 (23:48):
It all year.
Speaker 8 (23:49):
And if you don't close them out with Haliburton's get
out played there down the stretch, that's on your coaching
staff and not having mcmall out there, I mean, you
can pick it apart and I'm a big Joss hard
guy because I love him, men him a couple that
great dude. I wish we would have kept him here
before the Anthony Davis cared. It's just when you look
at Carlisle and his lotations, he's conting himself and they
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had multiple times with big leads down.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
In the fourth quarter. You blow it.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
That's on your coaching staffe. So you got to look
at himself saying, how the hell are we playing a
Nick team with Hacker team out with no bench, playing
their starters forty five minutes and we can't keep a
lead when the weird we should be dominating the boys.
So now you're going home, You've got two games. You
have no excuses. If you're the owner. Look at the
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Basers team, you have no excuses for losing this series.
They remember they were the betting favor coming into the
series because of all the injuries the Knicks fats. So
I know it's incredible as Jalen Brunson is and Hart
and Deevintenzo basically the Nova Knicks, they shouldn't be doing
what they're doing when you're playing a loaded Pacers team
who was the best offense in the league, and you
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got the benefit of the doubt playing a Bucks team
without Giannis. If I don't want to hear about any
referee calls, they choke down the stretch. That's the bottom line,
and Nick's doing what good teams do. Took it from them.
I just hate that in the NFL and any sport
when coaches cry about officiating when that had nothing to
do with you guys choking those leaves away and losing
the games.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Thanks, Mark, appreciate the phone call, and I think that's
what Chuck said afterwards too. I was watching them the
T and T post game show and getting ready for
our program tonight. You can complain all you want about officiating,
but Eddie, the opposing team shot sixty percent from the floor.
You can't allow that to a fifty nine point seven
or whatever. It was a shot almost fifty percent from
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beyond the three point line.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So you can.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You can yell about officials, and I honestly, I think
Carlisle has a point. I do, but I don't know
if that can become the genesis of your post game comments.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That can't become what it's all about. You can't start there.
It can't become the whole conversation. They got to play
better defense. Though I do fully back this series to
be even at two headed back to New York. We're
still doing two two one one one in the NBA. Right,
they change that again. They tend to shift about every
every decade. Right, Wait, hold on, we're only doing we're
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doing two three two. I like two three two. Actually
I was my personal favorite. But I would not be
surprised at all if it goes back to New York.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Nodded up at two.
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Speaker 1 (26:28):
Do you buy into the theory? Do you buy into
the theories? We roll on on a catch what day
is it? Is it Thursday?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Now a Wednesday night to a Thursday morning officially past
midnight on the West Coast, So welcome to Thursday, everybody.
Do you buy it the theory that these series do
better with bigger market teams. I'm the TV ratings wise.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I would I would think that there's probably statistical information
that would back that up. That would be my my
off cough opinion on that. Yeah, I just I'm with you,
Although I will say, I will say, and you know,
it is hockey. But I remember when the Rangers and
Kings played in the Stanley Cup Final. I thought the
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ratings would be amazing and they weren't that great. They
were okay, but they were not what I thought they
would be. And I'm not talking about like overall, I'm
just talking about within NHL finals ratings, right, and that
was a surprising. So it's not always about that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
But I don't believe you need to be in a
major market to get all the endorsement deals like this is.
I'm not trying to bring a Sunday night fight that
I have with Arnie into a Thursday morning show with you, Eddie.
But we tend to go back and forth a lot
because and there's a large faction of people that think
you can't maximize your value unless you're in New York
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or LA. And that's the only I guess. It doesn't
matter what happens in you know, mid to higher markets.
If you're not doing it in New York or LA,
you're just not doing it. And that's I'm not going
to change those people's minds. But I feel like this
is more than just the New York market. I kind
of think the story with Brunson and being different. Most
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of your NBA stars are Lebron looking, right, They six
foot seven, just absolute beasts. And here's Brunson that looks
like in Ant's kind of like this too, Anthony Edwards.
I guess Aunt wouldn't be a good example. I'm watching
highlight of him right now. You're like, no, no, no,
he looks like a dude. Brunson looks like he shouldn't
be able to do what he's doing. Shorter guy. I
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think that's a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Of the story than just New York.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But I also think you pull back and you're like, yeah,
that's like number one media market right now. I just
don't know if the Knicks are that team. That's the
first question I had tonight whenever I was sitting down
and trying to come up with what we wanted to
talk about and what would be good for the show tonight.
I mean, if you're if you're putting together a list
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of the most media the teams that get the most
media attention, right, it would be what Dallas Cowboys would
be up there, right, Lakers would be up there very high.
In fact, if you're gonna fix anything. I think you
would be trying to fix it to make sure that
the Lakers would get there right with the coverage they get.
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I want to say, the Yankees, Yeah, there you go.
Would you I think I would probably throw the.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think I probably though this no what I throw
the Steelers in there?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Maybe maybe maybe My point is, I don't They've been
so irrelevant for so long. I don't know if I
automatically throw the Knicks in there, just like I wouldn't
automatically throw the Mets in there on the baseball side
of things, just because they're in New York, just like
I wouldn't throw the Angels in there just because they're
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in LA.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's right there in Anaheim. Let's make sure we get
that very clear. But on the other side of it,
though it is it is an obnoxious, freaking fan base. Man.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I cover college football, and every fan base is obnoxious
and out of control, and we just accept that. But
I kind of feel like Knicks fans do that as well.
It's kind of like the college mindset where they know
they're obnoxious and they know they're over the top, and
you can't do anything to stop them.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
The only thing.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Even losing won't stop them to a certain degree. But
if we're putting together the teams that seem to kind
of be a draw regardless. I don't necessarily know if
I put the Knicks in that category, but I definitely
put this resurgence of their fan base Eddie up there
amongst the most unbearable.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
And maybe part of it is I have to do
a show with a Knicks fan.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Oh, that's a large part of it. That's a yeah,
because I don't feel the same way.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
You don't. You don't think the Knicks or that Nick
fans are that I'm not.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I just think they've been so awful for so long.
You know that now that they're having a little bit
of success, I'm actually you're always say, I'm that's a
little much. But I don't mind it. We don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Actually, I guess I don't mind it.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
But and I said, the show I listened to the
most on Fox Sports Radio is probably Jason and Mike,
because it seems to be when I'm always in my car,
so I'm getting hit over the head with the greatness
of the Knicks all the time, and I'm like, I
don't even think I was alive the last time they
won the title. I mean the Knicks. The Knicks whenever
I was younger, what were they known for their their
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coach grabbing onto the leg of Alonzo Morning. I mean
that's kind of where the Knicks peaked right now.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Well, when when you look at how that factors into
it working with someone and hating a team, all you
need to know is we hate the Clippers on this show,
and they are the most irrelevant, non threatening, nothing franchise
in sports to me. So yeah, because we work with Ben,
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he's obnoxious. When you're ann octionous fan of your team
when they've never done anything, it makes the worse. But
so yeah, if you you work with a Knicks fan,
if we have been, we're a Knicks fan, I feel
completely different.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well, yeah, you were having it hammered over your head
every single night.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Maybe even a better example it comes to the other
two sports. Go ahead, because you know I'm a Lakers fan,
So I've always disliked the Clippers. You know, it's just
but you know, Angel, I've been an Angels fan. I
the Dodgers have always been my second team growing up.
I went to more Dodgers games, and I did Angels games.
I live closer to Dodger Stadium, and you know, they're
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in different leagues. I like, I liked both of them,
but until I started working here with Ben Maller, and
I hate the Dodgers now. And same thing with the Rams.
Were always my second team. Like when I started watching football,
there was no team in La, so I became a
Broncos fan, and then you know, I started to I
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kind of you know, I liked the Rams that used
to be in La, so I knew a lot of
like my you know, family, Rams fans, and so they
were always my second team. Now I can't stand the
Ram So I definitely think Arnie has something to do
with that.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I think you're right. I think you're right, you know,
especially it's Arnie, that's true. And it's just there's there's
no gray air.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
It's either the greatest or the worst thing ever. You
would say it my comment wow wow wow. But I
just and again, I'm not trying to put this all
on this stinking genius, but I think I need to
right now because I do crack up whenever they show
the Gift of the Guy, whenever they they were doing
the bing bong thing like two years ago when they
started the season off hot and everyone's like, oh my gosh,
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the Knicks are amazing, and they sucked and.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I think they barely made the playoffs and lost in
the first round. So it's just, yeah, it's getting under
my skin. But I think I need to step back
and realize.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I think this might be more of a whom I'm
associating myself with Eddie than actually an entire fan base. Right,
this is more about the people I keep around me
than what an actual fan base is.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
I haven't worked with in years, and I can't stand
the Dolphins because of him.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
I mean, we might have a higher percentage of Dolphins
fans on the Fox Sports Radio roster.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
When No talks about him, like, yeah, that's a pretty
good point, I think, oh gosh, you well, there's a
couple of other things. But when Already talks about You're like, yeah, bro,
if you haven't won anything, like ever, what are you
doing right now?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't. Brian talking about him doesn't
bother me.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, He's like, oh okay, that's
pretty good perspective. Already You're like, geez, man. All right, Well,
when we come back to the Tirack dot com studios,
we'll hit a little bit of what Tom Thibodeau had
to say afterwards, and then our number three. I said,
I wouldn't get too much into some college or pro
football talk tonight, but there's a fascinating story making the
rounds involving everyone's least favorite topic in il. It's all
(34:48):
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Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, we're gonna have a baby debate coming up next hour.
I just been kind of fascinated by the reaction to
Rudy Gober's decision that he made to miss the game two.
And there's there's a wild kind of historical precedence to
these types of decisions you were talking about, Jerry Jones.
(35:48):
I was digging into when the oilers find David Williams
back in ninety three. There's a I believe it's a
Peanut Tillman story that goes back, but yeah, here it's
I found an old pro football talk story and the
cow dare you miss games? And then I don't know
if they realized that people could find old stories, but
(36:10):
then they had a new update on it. It's like,
here's another look at this, because we realize we may
sound like a holes on this, but I don't think
any opinion is out of mouths. We'll dive into that
coming up next and don't in our final hour. In
our final hour, Eddie Garcia is going to educate us
on the puck. We're gonna learn a little hockey in
(36:32):
what's going on in the playoffs coming up here on
Fox Sports Radio. Now, before we before we wrap up
our number two allow me to slide into quick little nil.
Note I'm not a big fan of nil, but I'm
also not against it innil's name, image likeness. This is
the way they've gone around paying college football players. Essentially,
it's paid for play, but we try to shroud.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
It in.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Charity work and media work and things of that nature.
But it's it's paid for play in college football. So
tonight or late last night, Boise State's coach went viral
for all the wrong reasons. Because Boise State's head coach
Spencer Danielson, Eddie, I know you follow a little bit
more of the West Coast with Fresno State and the
(37:19):
greatness of the Bulldogs. I don't know much about Spencer Danielson.
In fact, I don't know if I've ever heard that
name before in my life. Familiar to you at all?
Speaker 3 (37:28):
No, No, they had the last coach I remember, I
think was it Andy Avlo's. I think it was. He
was like a former linebacker. They fired him during the
season and then they went on to go to a
ball game.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
So this story breaks where Ron Cownts, who covers the team,
says Boise State's football coach, Spencer Danielson said today incoming
freshmen are not eligible to make ni OL money, and
they went at every coach, wait, don't buy players, we
don't do this. And what's funny is old boy realized
that he might have screwed up his report and did
(37:58):
the old Hey, here is the thread on exactly what
had happened, because I deleted the earlier tweet. Here's only
one problem. There's no thread explaining what the decision was
or what it actually meant. So you have this moment
where everyone's losing their mind about a coach trying to
say a class isn't available to make nil, but yet
there's been no further explanation after deleting the tweet. I've
(38:21):
never been more confused about a story in my entire life.
But apparently freshmen of Boise can't make NIL money. We're
talking Rudy Gobernets on Fox Sports Radio
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