November 2, 2017 • 37 mins
Doug criticizes the Astros for taking Justin Verlander out of game 6 and gets you ready for game 7 of the World Series. He calls out the NFL for making the Browns look even worse than they already are. Plus, Doug talks to Hall of Fame pitcher John Smoltz to preview tonight’s game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, Live and direct from the City of Angels,
where we are five hours away from the first ever
Game seven the history of Dodger Stadium. Chevez ravine, huh
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oh no, we all know now right, What a night
last night, What a game last night. Hopefully you had
a happy Halloween. Nothing more overrated than I had. I
got the most candy, right, I mean, because you know,
it's pretty cool thing I have. So I have a
daughter who's actually petrified of puke barf. I mean, she
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has like a legit phobia of of barf. And because
they know people and they have gotten queasy before over
too much candy. She had exactly two pieces of candy.
Now she's all lined up in rows. It was beautifully organized,
but she had only two pieces of candy. My little
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dude kind of same thing to three pieces of candy.
He knows it's bad for his teeth, and he thinks
that eat too much. My kids, We have our kids
convinced convinced that you can get sick for me. Too
much candy, so much so that, Uh, my daughter's twin
sister daughter came in like an hour after she went
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to sleep, and she said it might stomach hers. I
think I ate too much candy. A meat to phobia,
that's what the that's what my daughter has, a meat
a phobia. Anyway, we had a good Halloween, Plus we
got home in time to watch the Meat of the
Dodgers game. Watched the whole thing, caught up on DVR,
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but it was, of course on when you're in southern California,
it's on everywhere. Ramos, can you remember something like this
taking over the city. I don't know why. I feel
like I feel like even I mean the numbers would
support that. Locally, more are watching than watch the Lakers.
This feels bigger, This feels different than the Lakers title runs. Yeah,
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I mean there was a lot of stuff going on
in the Lakers one their last three with Kobe and
pau Gasol. So but you're right, it's just because maybe
because the Dodgers haven't been there in such a long time,
I think people just kind of are are jumping on
board more than usual. And it's been a great series.
So when you have those two that go together in
l A and we're l A is like a glam
right glam city, and we're kind of like we jump
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on board, but more front runners but look basically like
Houston's front running city too. I've said, like we could
be critical of Dodger fans, like I'm an Angel fan
and I'm totally into this for the Dodgers to win
the thing. Now I'm just now, I'm just rooting for
a great game seven, right, I actually, no, that's not true.
I don't want the Astros to win. I'm not sure
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if it's the Guriel thing. I don't know if it's
the fact they play in a little bandbox and they're
afraid to open up the dome, which can rightfully retract,
or the fact they have was a super short porch
to like artificially inflate their home run numbers, the fact
that they were in the National League now that the
American League. I I don't know, um, but the great
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thing about Dodger fans or Dodger bandwan bandwagon mania is remember,
this is an Astros team that four years ago bottomed out,
they tanked, and their local ratings and local ratings for
baseball are usually ridiculously high. Even even when you have
a new like the Dodgers are on a specific cable spectrum,
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cable to which everybody can't get because that's what they
had in Houston. The numbers are ridiculously high for local
baseball ring. That's one of the ways that which baseball
is so incredibly healthy healthy. They got a zero points
a Blue Tarski and their local rating because they were
so bad nobody cared. So don't give me this lifelong
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Astro fan except when they sucked. There on the bandwagon.
Dodger fans and fandom is up on the bandwagon. So
this is one of the few teams to which you
can legitimately say, not that big a deal. Don't feel
bad about hopping on a Dodger bandwagon. Would you like
better Game five or Game six? Three to one music,
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I'm not gonna lie. A lot of people like to say,
like I'm a baseball purists, Game six. I like the offense.
Give me Game five any day of the week. The
weird thing is, because I've watched so much baseball, there
were a bunch of times to which I thought Game
five was over. But that game, whether it's the ball,
I think. I also think it's it's never just one factor.
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I do think something's up with the ball. I think
there's a reason they keep that dome closed. They know
it affects the flight of a baseball. I think also
the dimensions in minute made, and of the pitching, and
some of course, the the approach in which hitters take.
All of these things had the ball flying out of
the yard. I thought last night was more like baseball,
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and I liked it more. But Game five was absolute craziness.
Game five is probably more exciting. Last night was more interesting.
Rama's would you like five as well? Your Dodger fans?
You like six? I don't know. I I like I
like a lot of runs. I like this, But it's
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funny last night that one ball I thought was a
home run was a flyout, and the two balls I
thought were flyouts were home runs. So it was kind
of again unpredictable. You just don't know. I think I've
lost the ability to figure out what a home run
is anymore, because balls are just because you're watching on TV. John,
I usually can tell when I'm watching the game when
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somebody hits a home run. I can tell, like that
ball is gone. And one when Corey Siegert hit that ball.
I literally said, that gone and it literally died at
the wall. I love. My kids are watching and they
saw Corey Sieger after that sack fly and he takes
off his helmet. And my daughter, who's eleven, she's like,
he looks like he's just out of middle school. Awesome, awesome. Uh,
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Dan Buyer, do you like Game five or Game six?
What's more your flavor? I thought game six, because Game
five you just wondered how many runs we're gonna need it.
Dodger were down three and you're like, oh, they could
come back from that. So I thought last night was
was better. You want to the best walk in the
history of baseball, which was it wasn't was in the
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seventh inning last night. It's really remarkable what happened the
seventh inning. So look, if you're not paying attention, here's
here's the basics of it. Okay, the Astros at the time,
we're trailing two to one, Top seven. Justin Verlander had
thrown nine three pitches, six of which are strikes. He
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had only given up three hits. He's struck an out
nine two earned runs. Um Tony Watson is in the game.
Tony Watson walks, uh, what's uh, Let's say he can't
hit it all in this series, Josh Reddick. He walks
Josh Reddick, which ended up being the best thing that
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could possibly happen to the Dodgers because when he walked
Josh Reddick, now you have a runner at first base.
A J. Hinch is like, you know what, I'll take
Verlander out. He pinched hit for Verlander with Evan Gaddis.
Gaddis grounds out fielder's choice could have been a double play.
It wasn't, but could have been a double play. And
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so though and all baseball guys are like, it's the
right move, it's the right move, it's the right move.
I'm sitting there screaming, tweeting to anybody who listen, it's
the wrong move. Two reasons. One, ver Atlanta was fine.
They weren't. They weren't raking Verlander right. He hit utly.
It wasn't like it wasn't like utly hit one off
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the wall? And then yeah, did did Sigar nearly hit
one out? Like? Yeah? But he didn't. And I trust
him more than I trust anybody, even must Grove coming
out of the pen, who of course gave up a
home run. But more than anything, you can your down
one run. You could butt Reddick over and keep Verlander
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in the game and keep that, keep that in your
back pocket. And by the way, you could rest your
bullpen so that even if you lose, you don't go
to your pen. Verlander is good for a hundred pitches.
He's that good and he's gone that long plenty of
times in the past. And so look, I mean, I
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was I proven right, I think so because Musgrove gave
up the solo home run to Jack Peterson, Who's just
an unbelievable story. Right. He was so bad in August
and September. He's been so good in this series. And
maybe it didn't matter because the Astros didn't hit anyway,
But if you kept Verlander out there, you protect your bullpen.
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You kept Verlander out there. Uh, I think I struggled
to see where the Dodgers could score another run off him,
And even if they do, you could go to your pen.
Then you just keep that option of resting your bullpen
so that your bullpen gets two days off getting ready
for Game seven, instead of going through Musgrove, going through
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gregorson and actually smartly even from one batter using Loriano
last night because you didn't have a lefty coming out
of the pen. You just had to get Loriano a
taste to see what he's got and what he guy
is pretty good. Here's a j hinch. I thought he
was good, especially early. You know, he brings so much
energy and so much aggressiveness to the game, and I
thought he entered the game with that. I thought he was,
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you know, obviously cruising. He had the you know, the
one hiccup in the middle of the game, but that
was about it. They did a good out, putting some
the vats together and they got some big hits. Obviously,
the elevated fastball to Taylor in one of the biggest
moments of the game. So again I thought he stepped
up and put as much into that game as he couldn't.
And look, what I'm saying would be unconventional, but I again,
we talked about this yesterday. The long play better than
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the short play, which brings us to what tonight is about.
I'm most interested in two Dodger pictures. You Darvers is
gonna get the start. When we last saw him, Um,
he was not only bad against the Astros. Julie Gurial
was making fun of him. Do you throw up Gurial?
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I mean, I don't think you do. But baseball has
a tendency to work itself out, doesn't it. Like how
fascinating are you to see him go against Gurriaal? I
know I am. And then we played you yesterday that
Dave Roberts got a call from Kershaw saying he could go.
Kershaw saying he'd go twenty seven, and he's like, no, no no,
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You're gonna close out Game seven of the World Series.
And so while Clayton Kershaw's second start in this World
Series didn't go well, do we once again change the
narrative the discussion about Clayton Kershaw when dominant Game one,
he got blown up in Game two, didn't gave up
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one big home run, but not that the second big
home run was actually my eta. And then if he
closes out Game seven, how then do we evaluate his clutchness,
his toughness, his ability to pitch in big situations, Because
he can't get any bigger than pitching against the best
line up in baseball, that's the Astros in the biggest
and last baseball game of the year, that's tonight. Look,
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I think the Dodgers should be prohibitive favorites. I think
all the pressure went to the Astros. They haven't hit
in Dodger Stadium with exception of Game two. They haven't
hit on the road, and they're facing a arrested You
Darvish and probably arrested Alex Wood and then at Clayton Kershaw.
That's better than any thing Houston's gonna throw out there
now that Justin Verlander is not gonna pitch. But I'm
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most interested to see what Darvish does against gary'all and
if Clayton Kershaw can be the can get the save,
and and when the first World Series title since the Dodgers.
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so by now you probably know the story about the
Cleveland Browns. Here here's basically what what we know. Two
days ago, some of the Browns coaches were ticked off
that they were staying late in the office, burning the
midnight oil, trying to find a way to get the
team's first win of the season, when the front office
had gone home Saucy Brown was nowhere to be found,
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and of course there were tweets uh to back that up,
including one from Hugh Jackson's daughter who basically affirmed what
a Denver media member ad first said, which was they
were there front office wasn't doing what it should in
order to get the players to be competitive. Then that night,
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Jimmy Garoppolo was traded. Of course, the Browns had offered
a second round pick for Garoppolo on trade night, which
I'm sure infuriated the Cleveland Browns coaching staff even even further,
not just because hey, look, we got a second pick,
they got a bunch of other picks, a ton of
picks in this This in the early rounds of the
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upcoming draft. So yesterday they had apparently consummated a trade
shortly before the trade deadline for a J. McCarron a
second and a third, which is a ridiculous price. On
the other hand, he was the guy that Hugh Jackson wanted.
He had been a part of the staff that drafted him,
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he had played him, He knew Hughes system, obviously knows
the division as well. And since Anati Bengals, all those
things fit and it would appease the coaching staff. And
if you have multiple third round picks, who cares if
you get a second and the third if you finally
get your quarterback. Only one problem. They hadn't sent in
notification from their side to the NFL. Now today the
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news comes out that instead of simply celebrating, because that's
what we were told, the Browns were so busy celebrating
that they had gotten a new quarterback that they forgot
to send in the email. The Browns sent them an
email see seeing the NFL with the deals of the trade.
They had to do the They had to do the
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exact same thing they sent the Browns. Excuse me, they
sent the Bengals. Brown sent the Bengals an email with
the details of the trade that were signed, but they
forgot to see see the National Football League. The Bengals
have done the same. The Browns had to sign it.
They never signed it, thinking they had already sent in
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their own email to the Bengals and so they thought
it was all done. It was not. They appealed to
the NFL and the NFL is like nap, Sorry, trade
deadline passed. No trade. Browns look like some idiots, don't
they Paul de Podesto is a baseball guy running a
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football organization doesn't know how to complete a deal. Here's
the problem with that. The Browns have completed plenty of
other trades same group, and completed plenty of other trades,
including a mid season acquisition position with the New England
Patriots going back to last year. So they completed trades.
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Why did this one not go through? There is, of
course the thought that it was too big of an
ask for a J. McCarron, and at the end of
the day, somebody in the front office sabotage the deal
because they knew it's a bad deal. We shouldn't do this.
We can act like we're doing this and not really
doing it. Do I think that's a possibility. Nothing would
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surprise me. It does seem like a big ask for
a J. Mccair On the other hand, they wanted a
J mccairn a second. The third is not that big
a thing. The deal had already been consummated. It's bad
for business to complete a trade and then go psych
thought it was a bad deal, and so we didn't
decide to pull it off. But the Browns look like
idiots here. Don't think we all agree on that. Does
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the NFL look like a holes to anybody else? Like
no one else was trying to trade for a J.
Mccair and nobody else has given him a second the
third round pick. Right, But both teams that agreed to
the deal, there are emails from both teams to one
another agreeing to the deal before the four o'clock trade deadline.
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So this is not letter of the law. This is
spirit of the law. I'm gonna give you a life
example for me. I have twin daughters are eleven years older.
In sixth grade. One struggle a little bit, get some
after school help, struggle a little bit with the executive functions.
I had no idea what the executive functions where my
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wife is like, you know, she's just really struggling with
her executive functions. I was like, I have no idea
what you're talking about. Ra almost you want to take
a shot at what executive functions are. I know the
executive branch, but I don't know the executive decisions. So no,
I have no idea what I'm with you on that one. Okay,
So I'm not the only one who sounded like an
idiot with my wife was like um. Executive functions are
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a set of cognitive processes that uh, necessary for cognitutive
control of behavior. So it's done. It's attention control, it's
cognitive inhibition, it's a working memory, it's cognitive flexibility. Uh,
that's that. Those are executive functions. Hey, it's things like
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you know, she's in middle school this year. So you
get done with one class, you gotta pack up all
your stuff. You gotta remember what's do and when it's doing,
where you turn it in and keep your locker clean
and the h and then go to another class and
do the exact same thing all over again. And she
was late to class. She was late to turn Simons in.
She felt like she was overwhelmed by the class work.
Plus we moved across country. She was embarrassed by the
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quality of works that she wasn't turning it in. Basically,
she's not a dope, right, even though she has my
jeans in her which would lead her to be an
a dope. Um, but she there's some basic executive functions
that weren't allowing her true intelligence to come out or
to succeed in school. And so she's getting after school
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after school therapy a little after school help on homework,
and she's doing much better. But during the first couple
of weeks of school, she was late to one class
a couple of times, and so she got a Friday
attention and she miss handled one of the school issued iPads,
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and I think she broke one of the keys, you know,
they have the little keyboards that connect to it. And
she told us she was so embarrassed that she broke
it that she just kind of left it over on
the floor where she thought nobody could see it. Of course,
somebody found it. It had her name on it, So
she got another detention. So my wife goes to the
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school and she's like, listen, I understand by letter of
the law, she's supposed to get a Friday detention, but
spirit of the laws, yeah, you want to learn lesson.
But she's already struggling to fit in. She's struggling with
the coursework. Like, can we come up with a more
amicable solution, like instead Friday will send her to her tutor. Now,
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one Friday she did that. One Friday, she had to
do the detention. My wife not happy with the detention.
The idea though, is that like, look, I I understand
you want to make a point. If you're the NFL,
understand like, we'll get trade deadlines not that hard. You
guys had months and months and months to describe to
get this place. A matter of fact, you had the
entire week to decide on this trade for a Jim McCarron.
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You knew you won day Jim McCarron for a long time.
And Garoppolo was off the board as of the night before.
This deal should have been done a long time ago.
And we say four o'clock. Four o'clock is four o'clock
letter of the law. The NFL is absolutely right. But
the Browns are already the laughing stock of the league.
Why make them look at even worse. They're already the
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Browns are struggling with their executive functioning skills. Browns cannot
get their crap together. We're all we all agree there, right.
The can't decide a coach. They go with a young
quarterback way to Shaun Kaiser is not their quarterback. Then
they go back to Deshaan Kaiser. Then DeShawn Kaiser goes
out and gets plowed the night before, two nights for
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the game, and he looks immature. Then they're playing in
a game overseas, and they know show like the Browns
are struggling for the Browns used to be a really
good franchise. They are the fumble and a drive away
from playing in back to back Super Bowls. But right
now that the laughing stock of the league, and all
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the NFL had to do was like go like, hey, guys,
come on Cleveland, get your stuff together. But look, you
want to make the trade? Do you want to make
the trade? Alright, fine, here's the trade is done, spirit
of the law. You both had emails that were marked
before four pm Eastern time, close enough, But instead the
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NFL is like, ha ha, Browns are dumb. Meanwhile, now everybody,
including Deshan Kaiser, knows they want to move on from
de Shaan Kaiser. And oh yeah, by the way of
you're the San Francisco forty Niners who only had to
give up a second round pick for your quarterback of
the president and in future, Jimmy Garoppolo, you're gonna sit
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there with the number one or number two pick. If
the Browns somehow win a game and you don't, you
end up with the number one pick and you just
dn't go out. They're going like, Hey, we know you've
got all those extra picks. You want to move up
and get your quarterback of your dreams, I gotta pay
to do so. I think the NFL makes themselves look
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in addition to me, I was on the Herd. Albert
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Brier had this to say about the Browns and Peyton Manning.
The two veteran quarterbacks that Hugh Jackson wanted the Browns
to take a look at in February and March were
a J. McCarn and Jimmy Garoppolo. Well, they didn't make
a run at Jimmy Garoppolo before the trade deadline. He
goes to San Francisco and then they botched a trade
for a J McCarron. So this thing is already a
little sideways between coaching and scouting, and that's why Jimmy
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has them. I think, even though his intention was to
let these guys have a few years, Jimmy HASLM is
going to have to look at his organization again and
maybe look at the idea of bringing in football's. Are
you know one guy who's very close with who could
fit that description, right, Collin Peyton Manning. Jimmy Haslm is
a very very close relationship with Peyton Manning's. If coaching
and scouting isn't aligned in the right way, the answer
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will be to go and bring in a football's. Are
you know Peyton Manning as a desire to play that
kind of role? I do know that's a very close
confidante of Jimmy Haslum's. Jimmy Haslm is a huge University
of Tennessee booster, and Peyton Manning would probably be the
first guy in his list if he were looking to
bring a guy in to had the organization and set
the agenda. That would be incredible, wouldn't it. Now. Peyton,
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of course, has been linked to ownership rumors in Tennessee.
That's always been thought to being his dreams set up
where he could own and run that. But if that up,
if that opportunity doesn't present itself, why not go take
over Cleveland? Why not? And then you mix the analytics
of what you're doing in the front office with coaching
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and solely but surely he would bring in kind of
his own guys and put his own spin on it.
But that that has to be what Peyton Manning wants
to do, right. Remember he was going around to training
camps this year during training camp, visiting everybody he has
Every year he's pursued about TV opportunities. He could be
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the lead guy on any network, even CBS. As much
as they love Romo, it's only because Peyton's turned them
down two or three times over per year. So that
must mean he still wants a foothold in football and
this would be his way to do it. You don't
want to coach, you want to be a general manager.
He wants to be a football's czar. He even likes
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the sound of football's are all right? Also, Also, I
think that that though the NFL looks bad what they do,
they look bad in this deal. Um at the end
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of it, it was still the Cleveland Browns that somehow
butchered disability to acquire a J. McCarron. But because they
butchered the chance to get a J. McCarron, they told
the world that they're in the quarterback market. They haven't
been able to accurately evaluate the quarterback market, passing on
Carson Wentz, passing on to Shaun Watson, passing several times
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over on Derek Carr as well. No matter who's running
the place, they made poor decisions at quarterback. Who would
know it better than one of the great quarterbacks of
anybody's lifetime in Payton Manning. That's why it all makes sense.
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John Smolts joins us on The Doug Gottlieb Show. I look,
I know you've accomplished a time, but being a part
of a game and you didn't pitch poorly, what do
you remember about that game? It was everything I dreamed
of as a kid. I tell people all the time,
I think sometimes you you think everybody thinks this way
as an athlete, and I disagree. I've been around enough
that don't necessarily think about pitching a hundred seventh games
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as a kid like I did in Lansing, Michigan. I
remember going out there. I just come off a game
seven shut out against the pirates to get to a
Game seven World Series dream come true. That year, it
didn't give up a single run in sixteen and plus innings.
That only won one game. So the ending wasn't what
I dreamed of. But everything in the game, my body,
my my heart beat, everything was right where it needed
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to be, even on the road. So those boats coming
on the road. I probably pitched at home in Lansing,
Michigan a lot more than I did on the road
as a kid. Umm. I'm fascinated by by all these
guys reaching out to Dave Robertson telling him skip, I
can go. It got brend and Morrow in trouble in
Game five where he's like, I'm I'm good, and he
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six pitches later he gave up four runs. Give him
a day off and he was good. Kershaw told him
he was good to go. I'm like, look, I understand
the ego of a great professional athlete. I'm ready to go.
I would always say yes, But does anybody ever say
no in these situations? No, I just don't have it. Uh.
You don't hear of them, that's for sure. But I
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think you know you understand a Game seven my I
think that my general problem with baseball lately is there
seems to be too many games sevens being managed. In
other words, it's not game seven, it's game two or
game one or game three. And it's just such a
propensity to get guys in in so many different situations,
and un characteristically at the time when it matters the most,
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putting guys in uncomfortable situations and asking them to be successful.
So in a game seven, you always know that's going
to be the case. Everyone's gonna come to the park.
Me see how I feel I can do it. The
worst decision I ever made, I ever made, was telling
my manager I can pitch in game six. I I
got the saving Game two, I picked seven eight innings
in game four, and in Game six I let the
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adrenaline and everything and the modulism of saying I would
be ready, and I gave up four runs and almost
you know, cost us a series. So you have to
temper that as a manager and trust the certain players
you can trust, and then in a perfect world, try
to manage the game as close to the vest as
you can. I know that's hard. I know their second
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guests in nature is off the charts. But the team
that plays this game closer to the vest, in my opinion,
will win. Okay, so let's start with the Dodgers. You
Darvis is going out there and um, if you had
to look kind of scattered report or the general fee like,
he's he has elite stuff in baseball in comparison to
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what the what the Astros are throwing out there? What
are your thoughts on Darvish has to do differently this time? Well,
he's got to have better touch with his breaking But
I don't know if it was the baseballs, I don't know.
You know, he had tipping problems in the past where
they were he was tipping pitches. I don't think that
was the problem. I just think he ran into a
lineup without his best stuff. And he's got great numbers
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against the Astros in theory on the year. So he
just has to deal with the mindset that that game too,
or Game three, was a fluke, and I'm gonna make
the adjustments of my bullpen and I'm gonna make better
secondary stuff. He's got the best breaking balls in America
from a right handed pitcher with a variety of ways
to throw it. So uh, if he commands that, it's
gonna be a tough, tough go for the for the
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Astro's lineup because of what he could do spinning the baseball.
I know it's a field thing and you got to
go by your gut if you're Dave Roberts, but if
it was Jon Spoltsen that dugout, what would be the
order of who you turn to? And why? You know?
I think when you think of what the Dodgers have,
the biggest, biggest guy that I want to use lies
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literally the biggest guy is Kenley Jansen. And when do
I maximize that moment because that's the problem in a
game seven, you typically want to close it out with him,
but he may not have that luxury, and in being
able to assess the situation of score of a moment,
I think you've got to have that guy available from
the seventh inning on. And there's gonna be a lot
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of starters used in this game. There's gonna be a
record amount of starters used in this game. And I'm
not saying that they're all going to be able to
do what they hope to do because it's a little
un characteristic. But I think the lineup and the five
right handers in a row for the Astros are going
to go a long way to determine whether Morrow and
Jansen continue to have the success against him. That's what
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Roberts is going to be looking to do Kershaw. I
would imagine it's got to be the toughest decision for
Roberts in this sense. He's got the way to the
world on him. He's the best pitcher in the world,
and he's going to pitch in this game, you would think,
but it may not be out of the pop possibility
to close with him. And what I mean by that
is just what I said about Jansen having to use
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him earlier. Because the game calls for it. You might
have to keep Kershaw and like he did and against
the Nationals, to close out a couple outs or an out.
I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, you know. It's
it's interesting. I'm always fascinated by this. You've been both
a starter and a reliever closer. But seeing as Kershaw
is in fact a a starter who has come out
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of the bullpen in the playoffs in the past, is
it better to start an inning? Like does it make
a difference to come in? You know, like you know,
when he's come out of the game in the past,
leadoff walk or whatever you bring him in. Does it
make a difference whether or not Kershaw starts an inning
or not. I think it does. I would that would
be my rule as a manager if I can help it.
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I would like to have my starters come out of
the pen fresh. I'm using a reliever to get out
of of the middle of an inning, and then I'm
using my starter to start the inning. That is the
best formula I think for success, so you don't really
throw them doubly in an uncomfortable situation, you know. I
mean there's so many things in sports we do in
a way that enhances success or or or challenges uh
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to not not be successful. And I think when you
just say anybody can do it, I think you're doing
a disservice to that to those people. And and I've
tried to tell people all the time, whether it's the
analytical world or people who just don't understand what information
comes out of a computer, you kind of try to
put it on their level of understanding, UH, so that
it makes more sense, because it just seems like it's
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too easy to do when when they plug it, plugging
the information and go, well, why can't this guy do this?
There's a reason. And it's like in the TV world,
you do TV all the time and you know how
to do it, and then all of a sudden we say,
all right, do TV. You can't use the teleprompter. It's different,
it's harder, and and it makes you uncomfortable. And that's
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what athletic that's what athletes go through as well. Joining
us in the Doug Outliep Show, lead analysts for Fox
coverage tonight, Game seven of the World Series of Course,
at Dodger Stadium, just after five o'clock West Coast time,
eight o'clock East Coast time. Why why why are the
Astros hitting so differently on the road. Like I understand
the weather is different, the dome being closed, that short porch,
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but the ball is just jumping off their bats differently here.
The amount of contact is different than it has been
in Houston. Why do you think that is? Yeah, it's
a great question, and it's happened to multiple times to
a couple of teams. You know, Look, there's so much
going on in the game today where you have to
worry about things you never used to worry about. I mean,
you're giving multiple signs with nobody on. They're worried about
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everybody getting stealing signs. Given location, you're more comfortable at home,
creatures of habit. But if it weren't for Game two,
obviously waking up and coming back in that historic Game
two here, we would be talking about what you're saying.
And the Astros were shut down by the Yankees, they
were shut down by the Dodgers. Look, the Dodgers have
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really been shut down at home too, except for the
six sittings. They've scored twice all three home games in
the sixth inning and ultimately was their major scoring until
that crazy game to an extra innings. So those are
things tough to figure out. You know. I just think
there's there's a lot of young players, and really between
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these two teams, you gotta remember only three participants in
World Series before this series started. Um, what about a J.
Hinch out of the bullpen. I don't think his puzzle
is as easy to complete. Uh, you know, Giles has
no longer come part of it, like he's not and
we don't even see him, like I didn't even make
the trip. Um. But and then some of his bullpen
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is text, what do you think he does, if in fact,
he has to go get the colors. I think it's
all starters. I think he has a great chance to
fitch this game with all starters. He's gonna have Kaiko,
he's gonna have Morton Martin could fall Um colors, and
you've got Kaiko. Uh you, we're gonna have Verlander available.
I mean that's gonna be. That's gonna be the interesting choice.
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You know, adrenaline as the game goes on will make
you feel like you're more apt to close the game
with like a Verlander per se. But the only chance
maybe where he goes to a relievers as we mentioned,
maybe even Leriana will get one left handed out till
his starter can start an inning. Yeah, that I would think,
like any other series we've ever seen, this is gonna be.
I said before the game started there could be six
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to seven starters pitching in this game, and who would
ever think that would have been the case with two
great teams going to Game seven. I thought that was
really smart that he got Lariano in there late last
night just to give him a look, because he didn't
have any other lefty coming out of the pen, and
he to win the night you may have to have
him come and get a lefty out of the pen. Correct,
no doubt. This is the strangest World Series for me
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as a player. I understood certain guys will slump and
struggle with the pressure at times, but to have this
men of them between two teams really hit the skids
at the long time has handcuffed. The manager has basically
said I can't go to this guy unless and that
has been so strange to see. And with an arrow
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where there's so much bullpenning talk and so much relievers
being thrown in. This is the byproducts sometimes that runns
into it. I've I've often said, be careful what you
wish for. The more guys who asked to come in
the game, the more chances that one of those guys
are not going to be as good as advertised. Um, well,
two World Series for you to call from Fox in
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two game sevens you are good luck, charm. By the way,
World Series Game six had more than twenty three million
doers across Fox, Fox Deportest and streaming on Fox Sports Go,
making it the second most watch Game six since two
thousand nine. Of course, is the twenty overall year of
Fox covering the World Series. You'll hear John Smoltz alongside
Joe Buck and it cast up thousands out at Dodger Stadium.
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Great job so far, Best of luck on the call tonight.
We look forward to you calling the last baseball game
of the season. Thank you, and for me, it's come
full circle. This is how long the year has been.
I called the Board Baseball Classic Championship here in l A.
And now it seems like two years later, I'm getting
a chance to be part of Game seven back in
l A. Pretty pretty unreal. Well it's been. It's been
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great to watch. You've been outstanding. Thanks so much. All right,
thanks for having me. It's John Smolts joining us on
the Dug Golip Show.
This is the best of the Doug Gottlieb Show on
Fox Sports Radio. Boom, What Up America, Doug Gottlieb Show,
Fox Sports Radio, Live and direct from the City of Angels,
where we are five hours away from the first ever
Game seven the history of Dodger Stadium. Chevez ravine, huh
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oh no, we all know now right, What a night
last night, What a game last night. Hopefully you had
a happy Halloween. Nothing more overrated than I had. I
got the most candy, right, I mean, because you know,
it's pretty cool thing I have. So I have a
daughter who's actually petrified of puke barf. I mean, she
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has like a legit phobia of of barf. And because
they know people and they have gotten queasy before over
too much candy. She had exactly two pieces of candy.
Now she's all lined up in rows. It was beautifully organized,
but she had only two pieces of candy. My little
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dude kind of same thing to three pieces of candy.
He knows it's bad for his teeth, and he thinks
that eat too much. My kids, We have our kids
convinced convinced that you can get sick for me. Too
much candy, so much so that, Uh, my daughter's twin
sister daughter came in like an hour after she went
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to sleep, and she said it might stomach hers. I
think I ate too much candy. A meat to phobia,
that's what the that's what my daughter has, a meat
a phobia. Anyway, we had a good Halloween, Plus we
got home in time to watch the Meat of the
Dodgers game. Watched the whole thing, caught up on DVR,
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but it was, of course on when you're in southern California,
it's on everywhere. Ramos, can you remember something like this
taking over the city. I don't know why. I feel
like I feel like even I mean the numbers would
support that. Locally, more are watching than watch the Lakers.
This feels bigger, This feels different than the Lakers title runs. Yeah,
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I mean there was a lot of stuff going on
in the Lakers one their last three with Kobe and
pau Gasol. So but you're right, it's just because maybe
because the Dodgers haven't been there in such a long time,
I think people just kind of are are jumping on
board more than usual. And it's been a great series.
So when you have those two that go together in
l A and we're l A is like a glam
right glam city, and we're kind of like we jump
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on board, but more front runners but look basically like
Houston's front running city too. I've said, like we could
be critical of Dodger fans, like I'm an Angel fan
and I'm totally into this for the Dodgers to win
the thing. Now I'm just now, I'm just rooting for
a great game seven, right, I actually, no, that's not true.
I don't want the Astros to win. I'm not sure
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if it's the Guriel thing. I don't know if it's
the fact they play in a little bandbox and they're
afraid to open up the dome, which can rightfully retract,
or the fact they have was a super short porch
to like artificially inflate their home run numbers, the fact
that they were in the National League now that the
American League. I I don't know, um, but the great
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thing about Dodger fans or Dodger bandwan bandwagon mania is remember,
this is an Astros team that four years ago bottomed out,
they tanked, and their local ratings and local ratings for
baseball are usually ridiculously high. Even even when you have
a new like the Dodgers are on a specific cable spectrum,
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cable to which everybody can't get because that's what they
had in Houston. The numbers are ridiculously high for local
baseball ring. That's one of the ways that which baseball
is so incredibly healthy healthy. They got a zero points
a Blue Tarski and their local rating because they were
so bad nobody cared. So don't give me this lifelong
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Astro fan except when they sucked. There on the bandwagon.
Dodger fans and fandom is up on the bandwagon. So
this is one of the few teams to which you
can legitimately say, not that big a deal. Don't feel
bad about hopping on a Dodger bandwagon. Would you like
better Game five or Game six? Three to one music,
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I'm not gonna lie. A lot of people like to say,
like I'm a baseball purists, Game six. I like the offense.
Give me Game five any day of the week. The
weird thing is, because I've watched so much baseball, there
were a bunch of times to which I thought Game
five was over. But that game, whether it's the ball,
I think. I also think it's it's never just one factor.
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I do think something's up with the ball. I think
there's a reason they keep that dome closed. They know
it affects the flight of a baseball. I think also
the dimensions in minute made, and of the pitching, and
some of course, the the approach in which hitters take.
All of these things had the ball flying out of
the yard. I thought last night was more like baseball,
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and I liked it more. But Game five was absolute craziness.
Game five is probably more exciting. Last night was more interesting.
Rama's would you like five as well? Your Dodger fans?
You like six? I don't know. I I like I
like a lot of runs. I like this, But it's
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funny last night that one ball I thought was a
home run was a flyout, and the two balls I
thought were flyouts were home runs. So it was kind
of again unpredictable. You just don't know. I think I've
lost the ability to figure out what a home run
is anymore, because balls are just because you're watching on TV. John,
I usually can tell when I'm watching the game when
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somebody hits a home run. I can tell, like that
ball is gone. And one when Corey Siegert hit that ball.
I literally said, that gone and it literally died at
the wall. I love. My kids are watching and they
saw Corey Sieger after that sack fly and he takes
off his helmet. And my daughter, who's eleven, she's like,
he looks like he's just out of middle school. Awesome, awesome. Uh,
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Dan Buyer, do you like Game five or Game six?
What's more your flavor? I thought game six, because Game
five you just wondered how many runs we're gonna need it.
Dodger were down three and you're like, oh, they could
come back from that. So I thought last night was
was better. You want to the best walk in the
history of baseball, which was it wasn't was in the
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seventh inning last night. It's really remarkable what happened the
seventh inning. So look, if you're not paying attention, here's
here's the basics of it. Okay, the Astros at the time,
we're trailing two to one, Top seven. Justin Verlander had
thrown nine three pitches, six of which are strikes. He
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had only given up three hits. He's struck an out
nine two earned runs. Um Tony Watson is in the game.
Tony Watson walks, uh, what's uh, Let's say he can't
hit it all in this series, Josh Reddick. He walks
Josh Reddick, which ended up being the best thing that
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could possibly happen to the Dodgers because when he walked
Josh Reddick, now you have a runner at first base.
A J. Hinch is like, you know what, I'll take
Verlander out. He pinched hit for Verlander with Evan Gaddis.
Gaddis grounds out fielder's choice could have been a double play.
It wasn't, but could have been a double play. And
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so though and all baseball guys are like, it's the
right move, it's the right move, it's the right move.
I'm sitting there screaming, tweeting to anybody who listen, it's
the wrong move. Two reasons. One, ver Atlanta was fine.
They weren't. They weren't raking Verlander right. He hit utly.
It wasn't like it wasn't like utly hit one off
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the wall? And then yeah, did did Sigar nearly hit
one out? Like? Yeah? But he didn't. And I trust
him more than I trust anybody, even must Grove coming
out of the pen, who of course gave up a
home run. But more than anything, you can your down
one run. You could butt Reddick over and keep Verlander
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in the game and keep that, keep that in your
back pocket. And by the way, you could rest your
bullpen so that even if you lose, you don't go
to your pen. Verlander is good for a hundred pitches.
He's that good and he's gone that long plenty of
times in the past. And so look, I mean, I
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was I proven right, I think so because Musgrove gave
up the solo home run to Jack Peterson, Who's just
an unbelievable story. Right. He was so bad in August
and September. He's been so good in this series. And
maybe it didn't matter because the Astros didn't hit anyway,
But if you kept Verlander out there, you protect your bullpen.
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You kept Verlander out there. Uh, I think I struggled
to see where the Dodgers could score another run off him,
And even if they do, you could go to your pen.
Then you just keep that option of resting your bullpen
so that your bullpen gets two days off getting ready
for Game seven, instead of going through Musgrove, going through
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gregorson and actually smartly even from one batter using Loriano
last night because you didn't have a lefty coming out
of the pen. You just had to get Loriano a
taste to see what he's got and what he guy
is pretty good. Here's a j hinch. I thought he
was good, especially early. You know, he brings so much
energy and so much aggressiveness to the game, and I
thought he entered the game with that. I thought he was,
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you know, obviously cruising. He had the you know, the
one hiccup in the middle of the game, but that
was about it. They did a good out, putting some
the vats together and they got some big hits. Obviously,
the elevated fastball to Taylor in one of the biggest
moments of the game. So again I thought he stepped
up and put as much into that game as he couldn't.
And look, what I'm saying would be unconventional, but I again,
we talked about this yesterday. The long play better than
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the short play, which brings us to what tonight is about.
I'm most interested in two Dodger pictures. You Darvers is
gonna get the start. When we last saw him, Um,
he was not only bad against the Astros. Julie Gurial
was making fun of him. Do you throw up Gurial?
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I mean, I don't think you do. But baseball has
a tendency to work itself out, doesn't it. Like how
fascinating are you to see him go against Gurriaal? I
know I am. And then we played you yesterday that
Dave Roberts got a call from Kershaw saying he could go.
Kershaw saying he'd go twenty seven, and he's like, no, no no,
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You're gonna close out Game seven of the World Series.
And so while Clayton Kershaw's second start in this World
Series didn't go well, do we once again change the
narrative the discussion about Clayton Kershaw when dominant Game one,
he got blown up in Game two, didn't gave up
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one big home run, but not that the second big
home run was actually my eta. And then if he
closes out Game seven, how then do we evaluate his clutchness,
his toughness, his ability to pitch in big situations, Because
he can't get any bigger than pitching against the best
line up in baseball, that's the Astros in the biggest
and last baseball game of the year, that's tonight. Look,
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I think the Dodgers should be prohibitive favorites. I think
all the pressure went to the Astros. They haven't hit
in Dodger Stadium with exception of Game two. They haven't
hit on the road, and they're facing a arrested You
Darvish and probably arrested Alex Wood and then at Clayton Kershaw.
That's better than any thing Houston's gonna throw out there
now that Justin Verlander is not gonna pitch. But I'm
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most interested to see what Darvish does against gary'all and
if Clayton Kershaw can be the can get the save,
and and when the first World Series title since the Dodgers.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug gott
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so by now you probably know the story about the
Cleveland Browns. Here here's basically what what we know. Two
days ago, some of the Browns coaches were ticked off
that they were staying late in the office, burning the
midnight oil, trying to find a way to get the
team's first win of the season, when the front office
had gone home Saucy Brown was nowhere to be found,
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and of course there were tweets uh to back that up,
including one from Hugh Jackson's daughter who basically affirmed what
a Denver media member ad first said, which was they
were there front office wasn't doing what it should in
order to get the players to be competitive. Then that night,
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Jimmy Garoppolo was traded. Of course, the Browns had offered
a second round pick for Garoppolo on trade night, which
I'm sure infuriated the Cleveland Browns coaching staff even even further,
not just because hey, look, we got a second pick,
they got a bunch of other picks, a ton of
picks in this This in the early rounds of the
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upcoming draft. So yesterday they had apparently consummated a trade
shortly before the trade deadline for a J. McCarron a
second and a third, which is a ridiculous price. On
the other hand, he was the guy that Hugh Jackson wanted.
He had been a part of the staff that drafted him,
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he had played him, He knew Hughes system, obviously knows
the division as well. And since Anati Bengals, all those
things fit and it would appease the coaching staff. And
if you have multiple third round picks, who cares if
you get a second and the third if you finally
get your quarterback. Only one problem. They hadn't sent in
notification from their side to the NFL. Now today the
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news comes out that instead of simply celebrating, because that's
what we were told, the Browns were so busy celebrating
that they had gotten a new quarterback that they forgot
to send in the email. The Browns sent them an
email see seeing the NFL with the deals of the trade.
They had to do the They had to do the
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exact same thing they sent the Browns. Excuse me, they
sent the Bengals. Brown sent the Bengals an email with
the details of the trade that were signed, but they
forgot to see see the National Football League. The Bengals
have done the same. The Browns had to sign it.
They never signed it, thinking they had already sent in
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their own email to the Bengals and so they thought
it was all done. It was not. They appealed to
the NFL and the NFL is like nap, Sorry, trade
deadline passed. No trade. Browns look like some idiots, don't
they Paul de Podesto is a baseball guy running a
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football organization doesn't know how to complete a deal. Here's
the problem with that. The Browns have completed plenty of
other trades same group, and completed plenty of other trades,
including a mid season acquisition position with the New England
Patriots going back to last year. So they completed trades.
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Why did this one not go through? There is, of
course the thought that it was too big of an
ask for a J. McCarron, and at the end of
the day, somebody in the front office sabotage the deal
because they knew it's a bad deal. We shouldn't do this.
We can act like we're doing this and not really
doing it. Do I think that's a possibility. Nothing would
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surprise me. It does seem like a big ask for
a J. Mccair On the other hand, they wanted a
J mccairn a second. The third is not that big
a thing. The deal had already been consummated. It's bad
for business to complete a trade and then go psych
thought it was a bad deal, and so we didn't
decide to pull it off. But the Browns look like
idiots here. Don't think we all agree on that. Does
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the NFL look like a holes to anybody else? Like
no one else was trying to trade for a J.
Mccair and nobody else has given him a second the
third round pick. Right, But both teams that agreed to
the deal, there are emails from both teams to one
another agreeing to the deal before the four o'clock trade deadline.
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So this is not letter of the law. This is
spirit of the law. I'm gonna give you a life
example for me. I have twin daughters are eleven years older.
In sixth grade. One struggle a little bit, get some
after school help, struggle a little bit with the executive functions.
I had no idea what the executive functions where my
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wife is like, you know, she's just really struggling with
her executive functions. I was like, I have no idea
what you're talking about. Ra almost you want to take
a shot at what executive functions are. I know the
executive branch, but I don't know the executive decisions. So no,
I have no idea what I'm with you on that one. Okay,
So I'm not the only one who sounded like an
idiot with my wife was like um. Executive functions are
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a set of cognitive processes that uh, necessary for cognitutive
control of behavior. So it's done. It's attention control, it's
cognitive inhibition, it's a working memory, it's cognitive flexibility. Uh,
that's that. Those are executive functions. Hey, it's things like
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you know, she's in middle school this year. So you
get done with one class, you gotta pack up all
your stuff. You gotta remember what's do and when it's doing,
where you turn it in and keep your locker clean
and the h and then go to another class and
do the exact same thing all over again. And she
was late to class. She was late to turn Simons in.
She felt like she was overwhelmed by the class work.
Plus we moved across country. She was embarrassed by the
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quality of works that she wasn't turning it in. Basically,
she's not a dope, right, even though she has my
jeans in her which would lead her to be an
a dope. Um, but she there's some basic executive functions
that weren't allowing her true intelligence to come out or
to succeed in school. And so she's getting after school
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after school therapy a little after school help on homework,
and she's doing much better. But during the first couple
of weeks of school, she was late to one class
a couple of times, and so she got a Friday
attention and she miss handled one of the school issued iPads,
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and I think she broke one of the keys, you know,
they have the little keyboards that connect to it. And
she told us she was so embarrassed that she broke
it that she just kind of left it over on
the floor where she thought nobody could see it. Of course,
somebody found it. It had her name on it, So
she got another detention. So my wife goes to the
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school and she's like, listen, I understand by letter of
the law, she's supposed to get a Friday detention, but
spirit of the laws, yeah, you want to learn lesson.
But she's already struggling to fit in. She's struggling with
the coursework. Like, can we come up with a more
amicable solution, like instead Friday will send her to her tutor. Now,
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one Friday she did that. One Friday, she had to
do the detention. My wife not happy with the detention.
The idea though, is that like, look, I I understand
you want to make a point. If you're the NFL,
understand like, we'll get trade deadlines not that hard. You
guys had months and months and months to describe to
get this place. A matter of fact, you had the
entire week to decide on this trade for a Jim McCarron.
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You knew you won day Jim McCarron for a long time.
And Garoppolo was off the board as of the night before.
This deal should have been done a long time ago.
And we say four o'clock. Four o'clock is four o'clock
letter of the law. The NFL is absolutely right. But
the Browns are already the laughing stock of the league.
Why make them look at even worse. They're already the
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Browns are struggling with their executive functioning skills. Browns cannot
get their crap together. We're all we all agree there, right.
The can't decide a coach. They go with a young
quarterback way to Shaun Kaiser is not their quarterback. Then
they go back to Deshaan Kaiser. Then DeShawn Kaiser goes
out and gets plowed the night before, two nights for
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the game, and he looks immature. Then they're playing in
a game overseas, and they know show like the Browns
are struggling for the Browns used to be a really
good franchise. They are the fumble and a drive away
from playing in back to back Super Bowls. But right
now that the laughing stock of the league, and all
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the NFL had to do was like go like, hey, guys,
come on Cleveland, get your stuff together. But look, you
want to make the trade? Do you want to make
the trade? Alright, fine, here's the trade is done, spirit
of the law. You both had emails that were marked
before four pm Eastern time, close enough, But instead the
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NFL is like, ha ha, Browns are dumb. Meanwhile, now everybody,
including Deshan Kaiser, knows they want to move on from
de Shaan Kaiser. And oh yeah, by the way of
you're the San Francisco forty Niners who only had to
give up a second round pick for your quarterback of
the president and in future, Jimmy Garoppolo, you're gonna sit
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there with the number one or number two pick. If
the Browns somehow win a game and you don't, you
end up with the number one pick and you just
dn't go out. They're going like, Hey, we know you've
got all those extra picks. You want to move up
and get your quarterback of your dreams, I gotta pay
to do so. I think the NFL makes themselves look
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like jerks needlessly. So Fox Sports Radio has the best
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in addition to me, I was on the Herd. Albert
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Brier had this to say about the Browns and Peyton Manning.
The two veteran quarterbacks that Hugh Jackson wanted the Browns
to take a look at in February and March were
a J. McCarn and Jimmy Garoppolo. Well, they didn't make
a run at Jimmy Garoppolo before the trade deadline. He
goes to San Francisco and then they botched a trade
for a J McCarron. So this thing is already a
little sideways between coaching and scouting, and that's why Jimmy
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has them. I think, even though his intention was to
let these guys have a few years, Jimmy HASLM is
going to have to look at his organization again and
maybe look at the idea of bringing in football's. Are
you know one guy who's very close with who could
fit that description, right, Collin Peyton Manning. Jimmy Haslm is
a very very close relationship with Peyton Manning's. If coaching
and scouting isn't aligned in the right way, the answer
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will be to go and bring in a football's. Are
you know Peyton Manning as a desire to play that
kind of role? I do know that's a very close
confidante of Jimmy Haslum's. Jimmy Haslm is a huge University
of Tennessee booster, and Peyton Manning would probably be the
first guy in his list if he were looking to
bring a guy in to had the organization and set
the agenda. That would be incredible, wouldn't it. Now. Peyton,
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of course, has been linked to ownership rumors in Tennessee.
That's always been thought to being his dreams set up
where he could own and run that. But if that up,
if that opportunity doesn't present itself, why not go take
over Cleveland? Why not? And then you mix the analytics
of what you're doing in the front office with coaching
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and solely but surely he would bring in kind of
his own guys and put his own spin on it.
But that that has to be what Peyton Manning wants
to do, right. Remember he was going around to training
camps this year during training camp, visiting everybody he has
Every year he's pursued about TV opportunities. He could be
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the lead guy on any network, even CBS. As much
as they love Romo, it's only because Peyton's turned them
down two or three times over per year. So that
must mean he still wants a foothold in football and
this would be his way to do it. You don't
want to coach, you want to be a general manager.
He wants to be a football's czar. He even likes
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the sound of football's are all right? Also, Also, I
think that that though the NFL looks bad what they do,
they look bad in this deal. Um at the end
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of it, it was still the Cleveland Browns that somehow
butchered disability to acquire a J. McCarron. But because they
butchered the chance to get a J. McCarron, they told
the world that they're in the quarterback market. They haven't
been able to accurately evaluate the quarterback market, passing on
Carson Wentz, passing on to Shaun Watson, passing several times
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over on Derek Carr as well. No matter who's running
the place, they made poor decisions at quarterback. Who would
know it better than one of the great quarterbacks of
anybody's lifetime in Payton Manning. That's why it all makes sense.
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John Smolts joins us on The Doug Gottlieb Show. I look,
I know you've accomplished a time, but being a part
of a game and you didn't pitch poorly, what do
you remember about that game? It was everything I dreamed
of as a kid. I tell people all the time,
I think sometimes you you think everybody thinks this way
as an athlete, and I disagree. I've been around enough
that don't necessarily think about pitching a hundred seventh games
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as a kid like I did in Lansing, Michigan. I
remember going out there. I just come off a game
seven shut out against the pirates to get to a
Game seven World Series dream come true. That year, it
didn't give up a single run in sixteen and plus innings.
That only won one game. So the ending wasn't what
I dreamed of. But everything in the game, my body,
my my heart beat, everything was right where it needed
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to be, even on the road. So those boats coming
on the road. I probably pitched at home in Lansing,
Michigan a lot more than I did on the road
as a kid. Umm. I'm fascinated by by all these
guys reaching out to Dave Robertson telling him skip, I
can go. It got brend and Morrow in trouble in
Game five where he's like, I'm I'm good, and he
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six pitches later he gave up four runs. Give him
a day off and he was good. Kershaw told him
he was good to go. I'm like, look, I understand
the ego of a great professional athlete. I'm ready to go.
I would always say yes, But does anybody ever say
no in these situations? No, I just don't have it. Uh.
You don't hear of them, that's for sure. But I
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think you know you understand a Game seven my I
think that my general problem with baseball lately is there
seems to be too many games sevens being managed. In
other words, it's not game seven, it's game two or
game one or game three. And it's just such a
propensity to get guys in in so many different situations,
and un characteristically at the time when it matters the most,
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putting guys in uncomfortable situations and asking them to be successful.
So in a game seven, you always know that's going
to be the case. Everyone's gonna come to the park.
Me see how I feel I can do it. The
worst decision I ever made, I ever made, was telling
my manager I can pitch in game six. I I
got the saving Game two, I picked seven eight innings
in game four, and in Game six I let the
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adrenaline and everything and the modulism of saying I would
be ready, and I gave up four runs and almost
you know, cost us a series. So you have to
temper that as a manager and trust the certain players
you can trust, and then in a perfect world, try
to manage the game as close to the vest as
you can. I know that's hard. I know their second
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guests in nature is off the charts. But the team
that plays this game closer to the vest, in my opinion,
will win. Okay, so let's start with the Dodgers. You
Darvis is going out there and um, if you had
to look kind of scattered report or the general fee like,
he's he has elite stuff in baseball in comparison to
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what the what the Astros are throwing out there? What
are your thoughts on Darvish has to do differently this time? Well,
he's got to have better touch with his breaking But
I don't know if it was the baseballs, I don't know.
You know, he had tipping problems in the past where
they were he was tipping pitches. I don't think that
was the problem. I just think he ran into a
lineup without his best stuff. And he's got great numbers
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against the Astros in theory on the year. So he
just has to deal with the mindset that that game too,
or Game three, was a fluke, and I'm gonna make
the adjustments of my bullpen and I'm gonna make better
secondary stuff. He's got the best breaking balls in America
from a right handed pitcher with a variety of ways
to throw it. So uh, if he commands that, it's
gonna be a tough, tough go for the for the
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Astro's lineup because of what he could do spinning the baseball.
I know it's a field thing and you got to
go by your gut if you're Dave Roberts, but if
it was Jon Spoltsen that dugout, what would be the
order of who you turn to? And why? You know?
I think when you think of what the Dodgers have,
the biggest, biggest guy that I want to use lies
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literally the biggest guy is Kenley Jansen. And when do
I maximize that moment because that's the problem in a
game seven, you typically want to close it out with him,
but he may not have that luxury, and in being
able to assess the situation of score of a moment,
I think you've got to have that guy available from
the seventh inning on. And there's gonna be a lot
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of starters used in this game. There's gonna be a
record amount of starters used in this game. And I'm
not saying that they're all going to be able to
do what they hope to do because it's a little
un characteristic. But I think the lineup and the five
right handers in a row for the Astros are going
to go a long way to determine whether Morrow and
Jansen continue to have the success against him. That's what
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Roberts is going to be looking to do Kershaw. I
would imagine it's got to be the toughest decision for
Roberts in this sense. He's got the way to the
world on him. He's the best pitcher in the world,
and he's going to pitch in this game, you would think,
but it may not be out of the pop possibility
to close with him. And what I mean by that
is just what I said about Jansen having to use
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him earlier. Because the game calls for it. You might
have to keep Kershaw and like he did and against
the Nationals, to close out a couple outs or an out.
I wouldn't be surprised if that happens, you know. It's
it's interesting. I'm always fascinated by this. You've been both
a starter and a reliever closer. But seeing as Kershaw
is in fact a a starter who has come out
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of the bullpen in the playoffs in the past, is
it better to start an inning? Like does it make
a difference to come in? You know, like you know,
when he's come out of the game in the past,
leadoff walk or whatever you bring him in. Does it
make a difference whether or not Kershaw starts an inning
or not. I think it does. I would that would
be my rule as a manager if I can help it.
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I would like to have my starters come out of
the pen fresh. I'm using a reliever to get out
of of the middle of an inning, and then I'm
using my starter to start the inning. That is the
best formula I think for success, so you don't really
throw them doubly in an uncomfortable situation, you know. I
mean there's so many things in sports we do in
a way that enhances success or or or challenges uh
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to not not be successful. And I think when you
just say anybody can do it, I think you're doing
a disservice to that to those people. And and I've
tried to tell people all the time, whether it's the
analytical world or people who just don't understand what information
comes out of a computer, you kind of try to
put it on their level of understanding, UH, so that
it makes more sense, because it just seems like it's
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too easy to do when when they plug it, plugging
the information and go, well, why can't this guy do this?
There's a reason. And it's like in the TV world,
you do TV all the time and you know how
to do it, and then all of a sudden we say,
all right, do TV. You can't use the teleprompter. It's different,
it's harder, and and it makes you uncomfortable. And that's
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what athletic that's what athletes go through as well. Joining
us in the Doug Outliep Show, lead analysts for Fox
coverage tonight, Game seven of the World Series of Course,
at Dodger Stadium, just after five o'clock West Coast time,
eight o'clock East Coast time. Why why why are the
Astros hitting so differently on the road. Like I understand
the weather is different, the dome being closed, that short porch,
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but the ball is just jumping off their bats differently here.
The amount of contact is different than it has been
in Houston. Why do you think that is? Yeah, it's
a great question, and it's happened to multiple times to
a couple of teams. You know, Look, there's so much
going on in the game today where you have to
worry about things you never used to worry about. I mean,
you're giving multiple signs with nobody on. They're worried about
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everybody getting stealing signs. Given location, you're more comfortable at home,
creatures of habit. But if it weren't for Game two,
obviously waking up and coming back in that historic Game
two here, we would be talking about what you're saying.
And the Astros were shut down by the Yankees, they
were shut down by the Dodgers. Look, the Dodgers have
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really been shut down at home too, except for the
six sittings. They've scored twice all three home games in
the sixth inning and ultimately was their major scoring until
that crazy game to an extra innings. So those are
things tough to figure out. You know. I just think
there's there's a lot of young players, and really between
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these two teams, you gotta remember only three participants in
World Series before this series started. Um, what about a J.
Hinch out of the bullpen. I don't think his puzzle
is as easy to complete. Uh, you know, Giles has
no longer come part of it, like he's not and
we don't even see him, like I didn't even make
the trip. Um. But and then some of his bullpen
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is text, what do you think he does, if in fact,
he has to go get the colors. I think it's
all starters. I think he has a great chance to
fitch this game with all starters. He's gonna have Kaiko,
he's gonna have Morton Martin could fall Um colors, and
you've got Kaiko. Uh you, we're gonna have Verlander available.
I mean that's gonna be. That's gonna be the interesting choice.
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You know, adrenaline as the game goes on will make
you feel like you're more apt to close the game
with like a Verlander per se. But the only chance
maybe where he goes to a relievers as we mentioned,
maybe even Leriana will get one left handed out till
his starter can start an inning. Yeah, that I would think,
like any other series we've ever seen, this is gonna be.
I said before the game started there could be six
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to seven starters pitching in this game, and who would
ever think that would have been the case with two
great teams going to Game seven. I thought that was
really smart that he got Lariano in there late last
night just to give him a look, because he didn't
have any other lefty coming out of the pen, and
he to win the night you may have to have
him come and get a lefty out of the pen. Correct,
no doubt. This is the strangest World Series for me
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as a player. I understood certain guys will slump and
struggle with the pressure at times, but to have this
men of them between two teams really hit the skids
at the long time has handcuffed. The manager has basically
said I can't go to this guy unless and that
has been so strange to see. And with an arrow
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where there's so much bullpenning talk and so much relievers
being thrown in. This is the byproducts sometimes that runns
into it. I've I've often said, be careful what you
wish for. The more guys who asked to come in
the game, the more chances that one of those guys
are not going to be as good as advertised. Um, well,
two World Series for you to call from Fox in
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two game sevens you are good luck, charm. By the way,
World Series Game six had more than twenty three million
doers across Fox, Fox Deportest and streaming on Fox Sports Go,
making it the second most watch Game six since two
thousand nine. Of course, is the twenty overall year of
Fox covering the World Series. You'll hear John Smoltz alongside
Joe Buck and it cast up thousands out at Dodger Stadium.
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Great job so far, Best of luck on the call tonight.
We look forward to you calling the last baseball game
of the season. Thank you, and for me, it's come
full circle. This is how long the year has been.
I called the Board Baseball Classic Championship here in l A.
And now it seems like two years later, I'm getting
a chance to be part of Game seven back in
l A. Pretty pretty unreal. Well it's been. It's been
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great to watch. You've been outstanding. Thanks so much. All right,
thanks for having me. It's John Smolts joining us on
the Dug Golip Show.
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