October 22, 2020 • 39 mins
Doug breaks down a major misconception about college sports. Former NFL QB Bruce Gradkowski stops by to discuss the Dolphins’ decision to start Tua over Ryan Fitzpatrick. Plus, Doug tells you what you can expect from the Philadelphia Eagles tonight!
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you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What up Tug got
Leave Show fin Sports Radio? Mm hmmmmmm um. There's a
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topic I'm gonna bring up, and um, it's it's it's
constantly around us and we don't necessarily avoid it, but
it doesn't really pertain to sports by my estimation, but
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some people keep bringing into sports. Um. I saw this
that the um there's a controversy in Texas over the
song the Eyes of Texas. Now. The Eyes of Texas
is the spirit song and the University of Texas at Austin.
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It's set to the tune of I've been working on
the railroad right. But here are the words. The Eyes
of Texas are upon you all the livelong day. The
eyes of Texas are upon you. You cannot go away.
Do not think you can escape them. At night or
early in the morn the Eyes of Texas are upon
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you till Gabriel blows his horn. Okay, So, um, they
do the hook them and that's it. But because because
I've been working on the railroad, was h an old
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hymn sung in the Old South by the chain gangs.
There are some in my business who wanted done away
with And during the cancel season of the summer, there
were people at the University of Texas that didn't want
the Eyes of Texas because they deemed it to be
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a racist of nature. Look, I don't know how to
break this to you, Okay. And Chris del Conte is
a friend. We talked a little bit about this, but
not recently he's come out and said, you know what,
they've done research and study and they they're going to
continue with the Eyes of Texas. Um, you have to
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take so many apps to make that song racially insensitive
in anyway, right, Like if you want to say, if
you want to say, hey, you know, pre Civil War
Civil War war hymns are not you know, generally, Okay,
I've been working the railroad. The truth is that many
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of the railroads, the trans Continental Railroad. I hate to
be a historian. John Ramos, who is the trans Continental
Railroad built by Union Pacific and the who was doing
the work? Who who was doing Oh like the type
of people that were doing work, whether that Chinese immigrants
who were treated terribly, We're treat terribly. Um. We have
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lost any sense of what racism actually looks like that
we want. It's like we want a default that everything
is about race. And I'll give you the most recent
example I saw on social media, which I just I
can't do anymore. I can't let it happen anymore without
calling people out Meyron Medcalf is a writer for ESPN
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dot com. He said one of the biggest challenges in
college basketball was too many white coaches believe it's their
duty to quote raise the black athletes in their program.
The assumption is that these players never had a good
role model and now must be molded. It's the precursor
for abuse. Myron Metcalf never played, never coached in basketball.
The information that you get he he has, or this
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tweet that he put out with this idea that's in
his head, comes from the Pat Chambers was fired yesterday
at Penn State after claims of racial insensitive remarks and
abuse and an investigation, which apparently the initial claims weren't
proven to be racist in nature at all, but there
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was something else that caused to his him being oustad.
Greg Marshall is probably gonna be fired. He he is
the head coach which to state crazy successful at Winthrop
then at which to state claims of abuse. So again
I'm not in any way apologizing for whatever Pat Chambers did,
which is not going to be released, nor should it be,
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or whatever Greg Marshall is accused of. And if it's
proven to be factually correct, if you put your hands
on a player, you're gone. And some of the remarks
which is quoted as saying we could do without but
the idea that white coaches think it's their job. Bro,
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do you have do you not know anything about sports
or life in general? Yeah, it's a white coach. Black
coaches do the exact same thing. Any coach who comes
into a young man's living room and sits down with
the mom, with the dad, with the cousin, with the
a you coach at the high school, coach, with the
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mentor with whomever, the first I shouldn't The mom almost
always asks, you're gonna take care of my baby? Right,
and if the coach is wied, the coaches black, their
answer is gonna be absolutely, I will be a father figure,
I will be a mentor. That's what the process demands,
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That's what the job demands. We we we say these
things which are just so incredibly far afield. I saw
Dennis Dodds, who I like you a great deal. He's
any time there's anything about an athlete like But that's
why their employees, Michigan's players are gonna stay on campus
while the students are at home because of COVID, because
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COVID concerns that. That's why they're employees. No, they're not
if they were employees of the university. Do you know
what's happened to most employees at universities right now, being
furloughed or fired. You know what can't happen to scholarship
athletes even if they decide, hey, I don't want to
go to class, I don't want to do anything. I'm
scared of COVID. I don't want to do it. Nothing
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they had to keepers scholarship And oh yeah, by the way,
student athletes are on campus when students aren't on campus
all the time before school starts, when they have training
camp when when school goes away for Thanksgiving break, they
stay if they're playing in a game, or playing a
conference championship game, or they're playing in a bowl game.
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This idea that their employees because they're on campus at
a different time than other students is so stupid. That's
this this confirmation bias. Because two coaches that are that
that are claimed to be abusive happen to be white,
that doesn't mean it's racist or racial and nature for
a white coach to try and be a father figure
towards a black player when he comes to play first school.
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All coaches should be father figures, should be mentors towards
their kids, regardless of whether that they have two parents
in the home, three parents in the home, two homes
with with you know, step parents, whatever, no parents, So
doesn't matter. You're eighteen to twent two years old. You
need a grown man to help give you some guidance
every now and again, to call you in, to hold
you accountable, to every once in a while have you
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over for dinner and say hey, man, how's it going,
And and again. This is our our problem is not
abusive coaches. Okay, believe it or not, it is not.
Because you have three hudred and fifty schools. You got
two right now, one who has fired for abuse, another
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one who I think he's gonna be fired. Just things
really hard. I mean, makes a lot of money, has
been really successful. But some of the things he said,
if he laid his hands on the kid, he's gone,
and there's multiple reports that he did, he's gone. How
are your percentages when you got two out of three
fifty and even if we say, you know that there's
probably five or ten more that aren't being reported. Again,
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you know, in any job, at any boss, you're going
to have abusive bosses. It doesn't mean that the entire
profession is full of abusive It doesn't mean that every
boss is my boss is here great. And it definitely
doesn't mean that race plays a factor. We don't default
to race. If race is a factor, if there's racial
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things done, there's things done to a black athlete that
aren't done to a white athlete, well then let's have
that discussion. But when do we get to this point?
And again, the point is that the problem is not
with the player, it's with the media. Like Myron, you're
so out of your league in this thing. Well, you know,
I talked to a coach, Like, all right, then the
coach the player, if you saw abuse or abuse was
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claimed and somebody was using that like you're acting like
like coaches who helped parent their kids when they're away
at school is like a precursor for abuse. That's what
you wrote. What are you doing? How dare you say that? Yes,
I'm defending coaches because you know what, they don't get
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into it for some glory and making tons of money.
They just don't. They get it because they love ball,
They like kids, they like competing, and they like the
college process. They like being around young people who keeps
some young. They like the idea of getting in a
gym and then get in a film room, working it out,
playing the road games, playing for the crowds, playing the
n s a tournament, playing for conference championships. That's how
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they do it. And yeah, there's a select few guys.
There's probably two hundred or so that make over a
million dollars, and there's probably fifty or so that makeover
you know, a million and a half two million dollars.
And by the way, again there's three D fifty Division
one schools. There's probably a thousand overall schools in Division one,
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Division two, Division three and n a A. There plenty
of coaches that aren't making money, bro, Just so you're aware,
my brother was has been an assistant coach for twenty
five years Cal Poly, Sacramento State, San Diego State, cal Berkeley,
organ State. Last a couple months ago he was called
in Oregan State and said, hey, you didn't do anything wrong,
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but we're cutting twenty six people from the athe department.
He's currently now an assistant at Grand Canyon with the women. Well,
by the way, it's like they got a new coaches
from Drewey. She's amazing. It's a job, and unlike players,
they can be fired or furload or let go during
tough times and they pay taxes on it, and they
had to move their families and that's not what players
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go through and it's not a precursor for abuse. When
you're kind, thoughtful coach that wants to help kids go
through it amazing transition or life from a boy to
a man and be part of that process. Think about
what you're suggesting. Here's the last thing. If you want
to make the point to be a good one, that
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there are two few Division one head coaches that are
either black, Asian, Hispanic, UM, mixed race, whatever, I would have,
I have no problem with that. None got to do
a better job. UM. I would also point out that
that part of what will allow that to happen is
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again some of these coaches, some of these players not
transferring as much. When you don't transfer, when you are
four years at a program or even three years out
of program, you have a stronger tied to that program.
And when you're tied to those programs, when you understand
everything makes it up, you become tied to that community.
You're tied to the community. You'll stay there as a
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grad assistant, you'll get on as a d O b
OH as a full time assistant and whatever. There are
other factors kind of at play there. But it should
also be pointed out that like, look, I you can
make the argument that there's not enough black coaches. That
doesn't mean that white coaches are racist, or that white
coaches are using their power for evil influence. That's unfair,
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that's not true. There's no proof to it, and by
the way, it speaks poorly for how you do your job.
Because if there is this type of intimidation and racism
and bullying at play. How can you haven't reported You
didn't break that story. Jeff Goodman did so I'm not
gonna sit here and bore you with but you know
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we we we did this with Odell Beckham Jr. Like
Odell Beckham Jr. Is dot. We're not getting onto him
because he he he's black with flamboy like do Odell
Beckham Jr. Considering what he's accomplished since being he's way
more popular than he actually is accomplished. There are plenty
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of black players that are doing quite well. He's the
only one they got the video with a woman and
what looked like cocaine hotel room. He's the only one
who had the kicking at fiasco. He's the only one
who brought the goat shoes to Tom Brady when they
lost to New England last year. He's the only one
who didn't show up to O T A S and
then couldn't get on the same page with Baker Mayfield.
He's the only one who called out the arm strength
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of Eli Manning and now seems to have a problem
with Baker Mayfield. He's the only one who was who
was doing the thing with the kicking net. He's the
you know, we go on and on. What you have
to be cautious of is are we doing a good job?
Like anybody's like whoa Racism is worse than ever? Like, no,
it's not stop it the Civil War, World War two,
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it's just you. You feel it more because of social media,
you feel it more because of politics and the way
it's discussed. But the reality is we're much more involved
than we're giving ourselves credit for. Much more involved kids are,
coaches are. But the challenges for the media, we need
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to be more involved. The old c something say something,
say something, and if not, maybe you're not saying anything
because it doesn't actually exist. Greg Marshall is a jerk.
He was fine to me. He was a jerk to
my producer. He did something when I was at CBS.
He said he had one kind of snide remark, which
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you know, kind of underlied. But he's a great coach.
He would have jerked to just the black people. It
wasn't a jerk because he was a father figure to
his players. He was jerked because he's really, really, really,
really good and it went to his head. I thought
I could treat people like crap the story oldest time
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Pat Chambers. I don't know what he did, but whatever
claims of abuse there are not because he was mentoring
young people. The second we make mentoring and fathering and
helping be kind of that that male role model to
go to at college camp is a bad thing for
college coaches is when we've completely lost track of what
a college coach is supposed to do. That's exactly what
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they're supposed to do, the coaching stuff, it's inconsequential in reality.
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Ertz is out. Malik Jackson is out. Jack Driscoll is out,
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is out because he's on the COVID list. Um, and
then of course they have Jalen Reagor out, Dallas Goddard out,
Isaac Samula Samalo who's out for the foreseeable future, one
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of you know, he's another offensive lineman. Jason Peters is
a course out on the I R short term, I
R T J. Edwards. I mean, it's unbelievable. Andre Dillard
their left goal. The struggle might of leads rookies out
for the year. Josh Perkins is out, Brandon Brooks, Damn,
Marquis Goodwin opted out. Nikes. What's what's interesting though about
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the Eagles and the Eagles played tonight, is um that
here the Eagles are at one four and one. They're
a half game out of first place because the Cowboys
the Yikes, and they they seem to figure it out
a little bit, you know, against the Ravens, they seem
to figure out a way to get Carson Wentz to
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move the football down the field. He played outstanding ball
and if not for I didn't love the play call
and the execution was even worse on the two point conversion.
They tie that game go into overtime with the Baltimore Ravens,
who everybody thinks a really good club. So I look
at it and I think that tonight's to night, which
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the Eagles played against the Giants. The Giants have to
own injury issues, obviously s Kwon Berkley, and they've been
competitive against most teams they played against. I think they
win and you start to see that they're they're a
team who it's Carson Wentz again is going to have
to do it with limited options, but he'll figure it out.
And I kind of felt like they were starting to
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figure it out, figuring out twenty one sacks this season,
fourth in the NFL. Their defense isn't terrible, and I
think the offense is starting to figure it out. Doug
ot Live Show, Fox Sports Trading. Bruce Gradkowski joins us.
A former NFL quarterback and a good one, and of
course you read his work in Pro Football Focus. Um
stop me if you've heard this before, but Odell Beckham Jr.
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Is unhappy. Uh, he's he's tired of losing their four
and two? What what? What do you do you've been
and you've played in Cleveland, you've been their starting quarterback.
What do you do when you've got a wide receiver
who you're four and two and your offense didn't play
well against a really good Steelers team, and he's drawing
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attention to himself. Yeah, I mean, look, yeah I was.
I was in the locker room with Antonio Brown, you know,
when I was in Pittsburgh, And look, all good receivers
want the football. I think. I don't know if I've
ever met a receivers that's not selfish on the field
and wants to be involved in the game, you know,
So I don't I don't get mad at that. But
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you know, for the standpoint of where the Browns are
right now, they're competitive, They've they just got whooped to
good Steelers team. Now how do you bounce back? It's
it's similar to the stuff going on in Dallas, right
This stuff starts leaking outside the locker room, and to me,
that's a loser's mentality. If there's issues inside the locker room,
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you handle it inside the locker room, knowing you still
have a chance at the division, knowing you're you're still
going to compete uh, you know, to win games and
make a run at the playoffs. And for the Browns,
they're in good position. You know, it's frustrating. I get
what he's talking about about losing to good book ball teams,
but it's also like, what are you gonna do about
it now? Though? You know, how do you prepare for
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next week? How do you sharpen your routes, how do
you communicate better? How do you make sure him and
Baker are on the same page? You know, how do
you continue to get better every day to make a
push for the division, to make a push to make
the playoffs. Because the Browns are closed, I mean they're close.
And look, I love O'Dell's competitiveness. He's an unbelievable uh
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talented wide receiver. Uh So if they could keep this
kind of in house, continue to build and grow on
on some of the success they've had, I mean, they're
competitive football team. Yeah. I feel like this is him
because against the trade deadline, this him trying to get traded,
which is dumb because they're not gonna They're not gonna
try right well, you know, I know, I mean you
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just never know, you know, because you know, how is
it in the locker room and whatnot, and you could
get frustrated at times. You know, sometimes Baker Mayfield gets
out progressions too fat. I can understand in if you know,
if I'm O b J and I'm watching UH makea
Fitzpatrick's pick six, and I'm thinking, I'm wide open on
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the slant on the outside, and he tried to throw
it inside and got picked and went to the house.
And you're as players, you see that on film, so
of course you're curious of man, why did quarterback make
that decision? And when I see players like that to me,
you know, sometimes young quarterbacks they try to see too
much and do too much. You know, on that play
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for instance, Uh, you see kind of the Steelers there
in a too high show initially and then they inverted
the snap. You know, if I have any inclination that
I have my one on one to Jarvis Lantry, who
is the single receiver at the time up top to
the right, I'm taking my one on one so I
don't have to read anything else out Now, say you
do still work the field like Baker Mayfield did. Now
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with that invert down, now you just read it outside
in you read the flat uh to the outside slant.
You don't even look at the insights slant. So it's
it's things like that. I just think the Browns are
at a point to that. Um. Kevin Stefanski has to
do a good job. I think he's doing a tremendous job,
but he kind of has to be like Kyle shan
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and he has to be like Sean McVeigh that they're
taking stuff off the quarterback play, they're calling the right places,
They're put him in the right situation. There's a lot
of boots and play actions and miss directions and and
pure progression plays that eliminate decisions from the quarterback. Hey
just read it, hide to low one, two three. And
if Baker Mayfield could do that um and have plays
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like that, he'll be successful because when he's in rhythm
and he knows where he's going with the ball, he
could be very accurate. Bruce Krakowski joined us on the
Doug Otlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. What about the
other side, how's Big Ben? Look? You know? Big Ben?
To me, the thing I love is his stats aren't
just uh crazy or anything like that. Yardage wise and touchdowns,
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but man, he's it. He's playing efficient he's playing smart
and I feel like he just understands the team he
has around him. Uh Ben had a chance, you know,
unfortunately watching the whole season and um watching the nightmare
offensively last year for the Steelers, and he washed all
the turnovers. He watched the offense put the defense and
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bad situations and put the team in bad situations. So
now it's almost like he comes back and he's operating
the opposite way, you know, where he's being very efficient
with the football. I mean last week he tried to
force a few in there, but he has levin touchdowns.
The one interception, I mean, that's good football by the
quarterback right there. And I think the Steelers last week
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they tried doing too many r p o s to
start the game. And look, r p o s are
great for some quarterbacks that are comfortable with it, but
it's not easy making a decision post snap, and not
even making a decision post nap, but you have to
read a specific defender post snap as you're faking a handoff,
We're going to hand the handoff and then have to
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read a progression now, so um, that could be tough
at times. And the steward has gotten a rhythm when
they just dropped back and passed. I mean for Ben
right now, he's you know, doing a pretty good job
for us grading wise at PFF. You know he just Um,
I just think that the thing that stands out. You know,
he's thirteen foot for us right now with his PFF
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passing grade at seventy six point one. I just think,
you know, it comes down to plane efficient and that's
what he's doing. He's being smart with the football for
the most part, uh, and making good decisions. Yeah, it's interesting.
You know, Aaron Rodgers, they churched some of that RPO
stuff last year. What you don't realize is these quarterbacks
like Ben and Aaron, they didn't play They didn't do
this in high school. They didn't do it in college. Right,
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So it's not like you know, oh yeah yeah, like
with the younger quarterbacks, they've all played that way at
some point in time in the in their life. Like
back Big Ben only started one year in high school
when he did they running power. I like, you really
you didn't realize how how old those guys are. By
By comparison, Doug got lip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
what went so wrong for Aaron with they're up to nothing.
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Then he throws the pick six and it felt like
he just kind of flung it out there. Um, but
he gives up two interceptions and then it just it
fell apart. What happened? Yeah, I mean, it's just it
wasn't It wasn't a good game, you know. I think
it must have been the end zone celebration right when
he scored to test that. From there it kind of
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went downhill. But I just look at Rogers so far
on the year, seventeen big time throws so far, so
he's been playing out of his mind in that sense,
and only three turnover where he plays. The unfortunate thing,
the three turnover where he plays came last week against
Tampa Bay. You could tell he was just out of rhythm,
out of sorts. He didn't have that smooth, quiet confidence
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about himself in the pocket. He was holding it on,
a hold on the ball, attat too long. Where you know,
the previous weeks to make good decisions, getting a bought
his hands, going through his progressions, staying on um task
at him. And this week, you know, a forty five
point eight passing grade for us, a three term ahead
he plays that that's not gonna win a lot of games.
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This thing though about Aaron Rodgers is going back to
our PFF data. Anytime he has graded under a fifty
PFF gray, he has exploded back on the scene. So
he's never followed up with a poor performance. So I
expect him to to get back into playing the way
he's been so far this year. I look at you know,
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green Bay last week, their protection wasn't good, you know, upfront,
offenseive line, too many leakages. Uh, in the protection, running
back pick up pickups in the protection, very soft, not
attacking the defender given too much ground up. Uh. So
last week just wasn't a good game for Green Bay.
And you know it's gonna be it. It's fortunate that
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now they could bounce back and have something to learn from.
Sometimes when you come off of by you get a
little slow beat. Yeah, I mean that. And and last
year it happened when they traveled to the West coast,
they got a little sloppy and they got kind of
smacked around. Uh. Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Brush Gikowsky our guest, Um, what's reaction to to a
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being announced as the starter so soon? Um? I was
at I was a little surprised, But then you know,
in the other side, I was surprised for the fact
that I love Fitzpatrick. I think he's great in the
locker room. I think he's great in the huddle. He's
that proven better and he understands the offense. But I
wasn't surprised in the sense of when I was grading
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the throws Sunday and the Monday, I kept looking. It
was towards the end of the game too, and I'm like,
why do you throw that? Oh? And and there was
a few bad decisions. I was like, come on, fits
like that really stood out to me, you know, because
I was expecting, you know, perceptions reality, right, the perception
all the Dolphins one I was a good game too,
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got his first few throws, all that's that's sweet, that's cute.
And then I kind of graded Fitzpatrick. I was like, oh, no,
he didn't plays as well as I thought. I mean,
he had zero big time throws for US in three
turnover worthy plays. You know, he was a thirty rank
quarter quarterback this past week, uh with a passing grade
of fifty point six, So he did not, you know,
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play very well. And I was kind of surprised at
the decision, but in the other sense, Look, two is
the future. Um, the Dolphins are playing competitive right now,
so I think too of you know, we'll do maybe
a better job protecting the football. And also he's more
athletic to extend plays to his very quick twitch that like,
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you know what, that's what I like about him coming
out of college. So I mean, man, maybe this gives
the Dolphins more of an opportunity with him behind center.
And you also know, look, he's the future, so why
not just get him in there now, give him some action, um,
and live and die with him behind center. So I
don't hate the decision, you know, it just always things
because we love fits as the person and what he's
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brown to this game and his competitive nature. Why were
the Patriots so bad? Well, I think you know, you
look at the Patriots, and I know Belichick pointed it out,
but when with all this COVID stuff, you're not getting
a lot of field time and in practice, and with
Cam Newton, I mean it's it's important. Like I was
a practice guy. I needed practice. I couldn't just show
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up like big band in a game and throw for
three seventy six yards against the Browns. H the one
game Ben went in as a backup to Landry Jones.
I'm sitting there like bending to get a single rep
all week. He has a bad ankle or whatever he
had at the time, and Landry Jones gets hurt. In
the first series of the game, Ben goes in and
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rips the Browns for like three d seventy seven yards
or something like that. It was ridiculous. And some guys
just need the practice and some guys are just straight
ballers no matter what. And I just think it's important
that the Patriots do get back to practice, do get
back to the details, because that's how they have to win.
They don't have guys that are just going to take
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over games. Uh. They have to win by a good
team effort offensively, defensively, and special teams. And I just
think right now that Patriots offense isn't doing much. Not
a lot of guys winning outside and you know, or
if they do win, Cam if he's got to make
the throws or it's just Cam you know, sprinkling some
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some of his runs, but that's just not going to
get it done. So I expect the vast improvement this
week because of the way Bill Belichick coaches and Josh McDaniels.
So I'm looking forward to watching them play, but I
still don't think. I don't think they'll pull it out
against the Niners. It's almost like Kyle Shanahan is a
younger version of Bill Belichick, but the offensive minded Bill Belichick.
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So it's always fun to watch these two two teams
go at it. I'm gonna see Daniel Jones tonight. He
is a turnover guy. I mean, I um is everything
else he's doing good enough to wait for him to
fix his turnover issue. You know, well you pointed out
sometimes in the pocket Daniel Jones doesn't protect the ball
that well. He can drift back at times, and that
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you know is not good for his offensive line. And
I look, you know Wednesday and Daniel Jones. It's the
tale of two halves for these guys. In a sense
of we're six weeks done in the season. The first
three weeks Wentz was awful, right I mean right now.
He has a total of seventeam turnover turnover worth he
plays for us the PFF. Twelve of those came in
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the first three weeks, but these last three weeks he
cut him in half. He only has five Turner worthy
played in same time. Same thing with his big time throws.
These last three weeks he has doubled his big time throws.
So Wentz is on the uprise. Well. Daniel Jones actually
is the opposite. Jones started off the season the first
few weeks grading really good, number six eighty nine grade
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for US in rhythm UM and now in rhythm he
grades at twenty three for US the last three weeks.
So these two guys are for in spectrums right now.
I feel like the Eagles and Wins are a little
on an uprise, and Jones and the Giants are kind
of even though they're coming off their first win. I
think Jason Garrett has to do more offensively to help
him out put his young quarterback in good positions. Uh,
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the stuff you see with McVeigh, the bunch formations that
the Jett sweeps, the misdirections and things of that sort.
And you know, a guy like both these quarterbacks though,
because how competitive they are. Um, so it'll be a
fun game to watch. Great stuff. Bruce, Bruce, love your
work at Pro Football Focus. Tell everybody we said hello
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Colin Coward talking about Aaron Rodgers getting testy with the media.
This one. Things are great for Aaron. He is on
top of the world. He is condescending, he is glib,
he is discount double check and when they are bad,
he is moody and bad body language and snippy and
I don't want to talk about it. Teams become their quarterback.
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Now Aaron is now in a bad mood, and Green
Bay is going to take it out on Houston because
if you go look at Aaron, Aaron gets really high
during the winning streaks, and then last year they go
to the Chargers and just get walloped, and Aaron said publicly,
we got a little too into ourselves. And then Aaron
this year, green Bay got off to a great start
and then they get beat by Tampa and Aaron comes
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out and goes, we got a little too into ourselves.
Or maybe Aaron, You've got a little too into you.
But you never hear Russell Wilson say that because he's
seeking neutral no peaks, no valleys. This is why Seattle
is such a great come from behind team. That is
why Russell Wilson almost never gets blown out despite having
the last three years a horrible offensive line. Teams become
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their quarterbacks. You know, it's interesting Colin started the week saying,
you know, um that Aaron's a Baylor. I think it's
like percent of the games that he trails in he winscent,
whereas one of the one of the closest competitors to
him is actually Russell Wilson's like, like the percentages is, Look,
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I'm not gonna attack Russell Wilson because Russell Wilson always
says the right thing. That's who he is. But there's
a lack of realness to him. There just is uh
certain kind of plastic, fake facade that I think a
lot of people see through. Whereas Aaron, Yeah, he can
be annoyed, he can be a little arrogant, but at
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least there's a little reality to it where it seems
to be missing with Russell. I guess my point is, like, look,
if I heard Colins say that Aaron's attitude is what
hurts the Packers. The Packers won thirteen games last regular
season and beat the Seahawks in the playoffs. This year,
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UM there four and one on the year. They were
beaten in Tampa against the Bucks. Um Seattle has not
lost a game to this point this year. They played
plenty of close games, some against inferior competition, some against
good competition. But the idea that Aaron's holding them back
when they're four and one the season they were kicking
everybody's ass until they came out of the bye week
(36:36):
and got beaten after leading ten or nothing kind of
the opposite of the facts. What it feels like to
make Doug Otlap show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
you know, if we're doing by or if we were
doing the your favorite college helmet, who would it be?
(36:58):
Do you like Michigan's helmet for example, Well, just because
of um my Ohio State fandom, it's very difficult for
me to to like that, so I would move, I
would move away from that. I do think that Alabama's
simplicity and the cleanness of it is very good. I
love the the Ohio State helmets when they where the
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what you could call the silver bullet helmets. They're normal ones.
Um I like those. Um, yeah, there's there are a couple.
I would say. Even the Clemson paw is is nice,
more simplicity for me in college football than anything else.
But Alabamas to me is is pen state. You like
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clean and easy? Yeah, that's almost too clean. But they
do have the stripe down the middle. But the the
Alabama to have the crimson color with the white numbers, yeah,
I like. I mean listen, um, Oklahoma's is pretty clean
and crisp um. The helmet game stuff is pretty awesome.
It's fun to play, you know, a lot of it.
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It's hard to do with the colors, you know, like
there's only so much organ can do. They obviously they
go away from the green and yellow. That's what brick
kind of Baylor runs into. Right. I love Texas helmets.
I love them in classic, long worn there's your logo. Yeah,
I like I like L s U s um And
I also think that there's something very unique with old
Miss just having the old Miss cursive. Um. So when
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you talk about unique helmets, yeah, I could go for that. Um.
Worst helmet in the NFL is who I said, Patriots,
and and it's Patriots because it's in their helmet is
so blah in comparison to how good the teams are.
Maybe the team is kind of blah the most people.
That's how it works. I don't like the new Jets helmet.
I think it's bad. Everything about the Jets is bad. Yeah,
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and I'm not a fan of the Falcons either. Um.
I think that they're they just move away from that
other great old bird. You don't like the birder, you
do like the bird, I don't. I like the old
bird that d Sanders Steve, Yes, what was wrong with that?
I don't know. This one is just a little too
much by the way. For those who don't realize, it's
in the shape of an F four falcons. That's I
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didn't realize that either. I did not know. I did
not know that weird wacky wow. That's like the that's
like the Brewer thing I didn't know was an MB
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you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. What up Tug got
Leave Show fin Sports Radio? Mm hmmmmmm um. There's a
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topic I'm gonna bring up, and um, it's it's it's
constantly around us and we don't necessarily avoid it, but
it doesn't really pertain to sports by my estimation, but
(01:08):
some people keep bringing into sports. Um. I saw this
that the um there's a controversy in Texas over the
song the Eyes of Texas. Now. The Eyes of Texas
is the spirit song and the University of Texas at Austin.
(01:30):
It's set to the tune of I've been working on
the railroad right. But here are the words. The Eyes
of Texas are upon you all the livelong day. The
eyes of Texas are upon you. You cannot go away.
Do not think you can escape them. At night or
early in the morn the Eyes of Texas are upon
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you till Gabriel blows his horn. Okay, So, um, they
do the hook them and that's it. But because because
I've been working on the railroad, was h an old
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hymn sung in the Old South by the chain gangs.
There are some in my business who wanted done away
with And during the cancel season of the summer, there
were people at the University of Texas that didn't want
the Eyes of Texas because they deemed it to be
(02:38):
a racist of nature. Look, I don't know how to
break this to you, Okay. And Chris del Conte is
a friend. We talked a little bit about this, but
not recently he's come out and said, you know what,
they've done research and study and they they're going to
continue with the Eyes of Texas. Um, you have to
(02:59):
take so many apps to make that song racially insensitive
in anyway, right, Like if you want to say, if
you want to say, hey, you know, pre Civil War
Civil War war hymns are not you know, generally, Okay,
I've been working the railroad. The truth is that many
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of the railroads, the trans Continental Railroad. I hate to
be a historian. John Ramos, who is the trans Continental
Railroad built by Union Pacific and the who was doing
the work? Who who was doing Oh like the type
of people that were doing work, whether that Chinese immigrants
who were treated terribly, We're treat terribly. Um. We have
(03:45):
lost any sense of what racism actually looks like that
we want. It's like we want a default that everything
is about race. And I'll give you the most recent
example I saw on social media, which I just I
can't do anymore. I can't let it happen anymore without
calling people out Meyron Medcalf is a writer for ESPN
(04:10):
dot com. He said one of the biggest challenges in
college basketball was too many white coaches believe it's their
duty to quote raise the black athletes in their program.
The assumption is that these players never had a good
role model and now must be molded. It's the precursor
for abuse. Myron Metcalf never played, never coached in basketball.
The information that you get he he has, or this
(04:32):
tweet that he put out with this idea that's in
his head, comes from the Pat Chambers was fired yesterday
at Penn State after claims of racial insensitive remarks and
abuse and an investigation, which apparently the initial claims weren't
proven to be racist in nature at all, but there
(04:53):
was something else that caused to his him being oustad.
Greg Marshall is probably gonna be fired. He he is
the head coach which to state crazy successful at Winthrop
then at which to state claims of abuse. So again
I'm not in any way apologizing for whatever Pat Chambers did,
which is not going to be released, nor should it be,
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or whatever Greg Marshall is accused of. And if it's
proven to be factually correct, if you put your hands
on a player, you're gone. And some of the remarks
which is quoted as saying we could do without but
the idea that white coaches think it's their job. Bro,
(05:36):
do you have do you not know anything about sports
or life in general? Yeah, it's a white coach. Black
coaches do the exact same thing. Any coach who comes
into a young man's living room and sits down with
the mom, with the dad, with the cousin, with the
a you coach at the high school, coach, with the
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mentor with whomever, the first I shouldn't The mom almost
always asks, you're gonna take care of my baby? Right,
and if the coach is wied, the coaches black, their
answer is gonna be absolutely, I will be a father figure,
I will be a mentor. That's what the process demands,
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That's what the job demands. We we we say these
things which are just so incredibly far afield. I saw
Dennis Dodds, who I like you a great deal. He's
any time there's anything about an athlete like But that's
why their employees, Michigan's players are gonna stay on campus
while the students are at home because of COVID, because
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COVID concerns that. That's why they're employees. No, they're not
if they were employees of the university. Do you know
what's happened to most employees at universities right now, being
furloughed or fired. You know what can't happen to scholarship
athletes even if they decide, hey, I don't want to
go to class, I don't want to do anything. I'm
scared of COVID. I don't want to do it. Nothing
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they had to keepers scholarship And oh yeah, by the way,
student athletes are on campus when students aren't on campus
all the time before school starts, when they have training
camp when when school goes away for Thanksgiving break, they
stay if they're playing in a game, or playing a
conference championship game, or they're playing in a bowl game.
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This idea that their employees because they're on campus at
a different time than other students is so stupid. That's
this this confirmation bias. Because two coaches that are that
that are claimed to be abusive happen to be white,
that doesn't mean it's racist or racial and nature for
a white coach to try and be a father figure
towards a black player when he comes to play first school.
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All coaches should be father figures, should be mentors towards
their kids, regardless of whether that they have two parents
in the home, three parents in the home, two homes
with with you know, step parents, whatever, no parents, So
doesn't matter. You're eighteen to twent two years old. You
need a grown man to help give you some guidance
every now and again, to call you in, to hold
you accountable, to every once in a while have you
(08:06):
over for dinner and say hey, man, how's it going,
And and again. This is our our problem is not
abusive coaches. Okay, believe it or not, it is not.
Because you have three hudred and fifty schools. You got
two right now, one who has fired for abuse, another
(08:29):
one who I think he's gonna be fired. Just things
really hard. I mean, makes a lot of money, has
been really successful. But some of the things he said,
if he laid his hands on the kid, he's gone,
and there's multiple reports that he did, he's gone. How
are your percentages when you got two out of three
fifty and even if we say, you know that there's
probably five or ten more that aren't being reported. Again,
(08:51):
you know, in any job, at any boss, you're going
to have abusive bosses. It doesn't mean that the entire
profession is full of abusive It doesn't mean that every
boss is my boss is here great. And it definitely
doesn't mean that race plays a factor. We don't default
to race. If race is a factor, if there's racial
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things done, there's things done to a black athlete that
aren't done to a white athlete, well then let's have
that discussion. But when do we get to this point?
And again, the point is that the problem is not
with the player, it's with the media. Like Myron, you're
so out of your league in this thing. Well, you know,
I talked to a coach, Like, all right, then the
coach the player, if you saw abuse or abuse was
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claimed and somebody was using that like you're acting like
like coaches who helped parent their kids when they're away
at school is like a precursor for abuse. That's what
you wrote. What are you doing? How dare you say that? Yes,
I'm defending coaches because you know what, they don't get
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into it for some glory and making tons of money.
They just don't. They get it because they love ball,
They like kids, they like competing, and they like the
college process. They like being around young people who keeps
some young. They like the idea of getting in a
gym and then get in a film room, working it out,
playing the road games, playing for the crowds, playing the
n s a tournament, playing for conference championships. That's how
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they do it. And yeah, there's a select few guys.
There's probably two hundred or so that make over a
million dollars, and there's probably fifty or so that makeover
you know, a million and a half two million dollars.
And by the way, again there's three D fifty Division
one schools. There's probably a thousand overall schools in Division one,
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Division two, Division three and n a A. There plenty
of coaches that aren't making money, bro, Just so you're aware,
my brother was has been an assistant coach for twenty
five years Cal Poly, Sacramento State, San Diego State, cal Berkeley,
organ State. Last a couple months ago he was called
in Oregan State and said, hey, you didn't do anything wrong,
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but we're cutting twenty six people from the athe department.
He's currently now an assistant at Grand Canyon with the women. Well,
by the way, it's like they got a new coaches
from Drewey. She's amazing. It's a job, and unlike players,
they can be fired or furload or let go during
tough times and they pay taxes on it, and they
had to move their families and that's not what players
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go through and it's not a precursor for abuse. When
you're kind, thoughtful coach that wants to help kids go
through it amazing transition or life from a boy to
a man and be part of that process. Think about
what you're suggesting. Here's the last thing. If you want
to make the point to be a good one, that
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there are two few Division one head coaches that are
either black, Asian, Hispanic, UM, mixed race, whatever, I would have,
I have no problem with that. None got to do
a better job. UM. I would also point out that
that part of what will allow that to happen is
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again some of these coaches, some of these players not
transferring as much. When you don't transfer, when you are
four years at a program or even three years out
of program, you have a stronger tied to that program.
And when you're tied to those programs, when you understand
everything makes it up, you become tied to that community.
You're tied to the community. You'll stay there as a
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grad assistant, you'll get on as a d O b
OH as a full time assistant and whatever. There are
other factors kind of at play there. But it should
also be pointed out that like, look, I you can
make the argument that there's not enough black coaches. That
doesn't mean that white coaches are racist, or that white
coaches are using their power for evil influence. That's unfair,
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that's not true. There's no proof to it, and by
the way, it speaks poorly for how you do your job.
Because if there is this type of intimidation and racism
and bullying at play. How can you haven't reported You
didn't break that story. Jeff Goodman did so I'm not
gonna sit here and bore you with but you know
(13:11):
we we we did this with Odell Beckham Jr. Like
Odell Beckham Jr. Is dot. We're not getting onto him
because he he he's black with flamboy like do Odell
Beckham Jr. Considering what he's accomplished since being he's way
more popular than he actually is accomplished. There are plenty
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of black players that are doing quite well. He's the
only one they got the video with a woman and
what looked like cocaine hotel room. He's the only one
who had the kicking at fiasco. He's the only one
who brought the goat shoes to Tom Brady when they
lost to New England last year. He's the only one
who didn't show up to O T A S and
then couldn't get on the same page with Baker Mayfield.
He's the only one who called out the arm strength
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of Eli Manning and now seems to have a problem
with Baker Mayfield. He's the only one who was who
was doing the thing with the kicking net. He's the
you know, we go on and on. What you have
to be cautious of is are we doing a good job?
Like anybody's like whoa Racism is worse than ever? Like, no,
it's not stop it the Civil War, World War two,
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it's just you. You feel it more because of social media,
you feel it more because of politics and the way
it's discussed. But the reality is we're much more involved
than we're giving ourselves credit for. Much more involved kids are,
coaches are. But the challenges for the media, we need
(14:42):
to be more involved. The old c something say something,
say something, and if not, maybe you're not saying anything
because it doesn't actually exist. Greg Marshall is a jerk.
He was fine to me. He was a jerk to
my producer. He did something when I was at CBS.
He said he had one kind of snide remark, which
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you know, kind of underlied. But he's a great coach.
He would have jerked to just the black people. It
wasn't a jerk because he was a father figure to
his players. He was jerked because he's really, really, really,
really good and it went to his head. I thought
I could treat people like crap the story oldest time
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Pat Chambers. I don't know what he did, but whatever
claims of abuse there are not because he was mentoring
young people. The second we make mentoring and fathering and
helping be kind of that that male role model to
go to at college camp is a bad thing for
college coaches is when we've completely lost track of what
a college coach is supposed to do. That's exactly what
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they're supposed to do, the coaching stuff, it's inconsequential in reality.
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(16:29):
Ertz is out. Malik Jackson is out. Jack Driscoll is out,
Kavan Wallace is out, Matt Pryor, who's their starting right guard,
is out because he's on the COVID list. Um, and
then of course they have Jalen Reagor out, Dallas Goddard out,
Isaac Samula Samalo who's out for the foreseeable future, one
(16:49):
of you know, he's another offensive lineman. Jason Peters is
a course out on the I R short term, I
R T J. Edwards. I mean, it's unbelievable. Andre Dillard
their left goal. The struggle might of leads rookies out
for the year. Josh Perkins is out, Brandon Brooks, Damn,
Marquis Goodwin opted out. Nikes. What's what's interesting though about
(17:14):
the Eagles and the Eagles played tonight, is um that
here the Eagles are at one four and one. They're
a half game out of first place because the Cowboys
the Yikes, and they they seem to figure it out
a little bit, you know, against the Ravens, they seem
to figure out a way to get Carson Wentz to
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move the football down the field. He played outstanding ball
and if not for I didn't love the play call
and the execution was even worse on the two point conversion.
They tie that game go into overtime with the Baltimore Ravens,
who everybody thinks a really good club. So I look
at it and I think that tonight's to night, which
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the Eagles played against the Giants. The Giants have to
own injury issues, obviously s Kwon Berkley, and they've been
competitive against most teams they played against. I think they
win and you start to see that they're they're a
team who it's Carson Wentz again is going to have
to do it with limited options, but he'll figure it out.
And I kind of felt like they were starting to
(18:18):
figure it out, figuring out twenty one sacks this season,
fourth in the NFL. Their defense isn't terrible, and I
think the offense is starting to figure it out. Doug
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A former NFL quarterback and a good one, and of
course you read his work in Pro Football Focus. Um
stop me if you've heard this before, but Odell Beckham Jr.
(18:39):
Is unhappy. Uh, he's he's tired of losing their four
and two? What what? What do you do you've been
and you've played in Cleveland, you've been their starting quarterback.
What do you do when you've got a wide receiver
who you're four and two and your offense didn't play
well against a really good Steelers team, and he's drawing
(19:00):
attention to himself. Yeah, I mean, look, yeah I was.
I was in the locker room with Antonio Brown, you know,
when I was in Pittsburgh, And look, all good receivers
want the football. I think. I don't know if I've
ever met a receivers that's not selfish on the field
and wants to be involved in the game, you know,
So I don't I don't get mad at that. But
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you know, for the standpoint of where the Browns are
right now, they're competitive, They've they just got whooped to
good Steelers team. Now how do you bounce back? It's
it's similar to the stuff going on in Dallas, right
This stuff starts leaking outside the locker room, and to me,
that's a loser's mentality. If there's issues inside the locker room,
(19:43):
you handle it inside the locker room, knowing you still
have a chance at the division, knowing you're you're still
going to compete uh, you know, to win games and
make a run at the playoffs. And for the Browns,
they're in good position. You know, it's frustrating. I get
what he's talking about about losing to good book ball teams,
but it's also like, what are you gonna do about
it now? Though? You know, how do you prepare for
(20:05):
next week? How do you sharpen your routes, how do
you communicate better? How do you make sure him and
Baker are on the same page? You know, how do
you continue to get better every day to make a
push for the division, to make a push to make
the playoffs. Because the Browns are closed, I mean they're close.
And look, I love O'Dell's competitiveness. He's an unbelievable uh
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talented wide receiver. Uh So if they could keep this
kind of in house, continue to build and grow on
on some of the success they've had, I mean, they're
competitive football team. Yeah. I feel like this is him
because against the trade deadline, this him trying to get traded,
which is dumb because they're not gonna They're not gonna
try right well, you know, I know, I mean you
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just never know, you know, because you know, how is
it in the locker room and whatnot, and you could
get frustrated at times. You know, sometimes Baker Mayfield gets
out progressions too fat. I can understand in if you know,
if I'm O b J and I'm watching UH makea
Fitzpatrick's pick six, and I'm thinking, I'm wide open on
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the slant on the outside, and he tried to throw
it inside and got picked and went to the house.
And you're as players, you see that on film, so
of course you're curious of man, why did quarterback make
that decision? And when I see players like that to me,
you know, sometimes young quarterbacks they try to see too
much and do too much. You know, on that play
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for instance, Uh, you see kind of the Steelers there
in a too high show initially and then they inverted
the snap. You know, if I have any inclination that
I have my one on one to Jarvis Lantry, who
is the single receiver at the time up top to
the right, I'm taking my one on one so I
don't have to read anything else out Now, say you
do still work the field like Baker Mayfield did. Now
(21:53):
with that invert down, now you just read it outside
in you read the flat uh to the outside slant.
You don't even look at the insights slant. So it's
it's things like that. I just think the Browns are
at a point to that. Um. Kevin Stefanski has to
do a good job. I think he's doing a tremendous job,
but he kind of has to be like Kyle shan
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and he has to be like Sean McVeigh that they're
taking stuff off the quarterback play, they're calling the right places,
They're put him in the right situation. There's a lot
of boots and play actions and miss directions and and
pure progression plays that eliminate decisions from the quarterback. Hey
just read it, hide to low one, two three. And
if Baker Mayfield could do that um and have plays
(22:36):
like that, he'll be successful because when he's in rhythm
and he knows where he's going with the ball, he
could be very accurate. Bruce Krakowski joined us on the
Doug Otlip Show on Fox Sports Radio. What about the
other side, how's Big Ben? Look? You know? Big Ben?
To me, the thing I love is his stats aren't
just uh crazy or anything like that. Yardage wise and touchdowns,
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but man, he's it. He's playing efficient he's playing smart
and I feel like he just understands the team he
has around him. Uh Ben had a chance, you know,
unfortunately watching the whole season and um watching the nightmare
offensively last year for the Steelers, and he washed all
the turnovers. He watched the offense put the defense and
(23:20):
bad situations and put the team in bad situations. So
now it's almost like he comes back and he's operating
the opposite way, you know, where he's being very efficient
with the football. I mean last week he tried to
force a few in there, but he has levin touchdowns.
The one interception, I mean, that's good football by the
quarterback right there. And I think the Steelers last week
(23:41):
they tried doing too many r p o s to
start the game. And look, r p o s are
great for some quarterbacks that are comfortable with it, but
it's not easy making a decision post snap, and not
even making a decision post nap, but you have to
read a specific defender post snap as you're faking a handoff,
We're going to hand the handoff and then have to
(24:04):
read a progression now, so um, that could be tough
at times. And the steward has gotten a rhythm when
they just dropped back and passed. I mean for Ben
right now, he's you know, doing a pretty good job
for us grading wise at PFF. You know he just Um,
I just think that the thing that stands out. You know,
he's thirteen foot for us right now with his PFF
(24:26):
passing grade at seventy six point one. I just think,
you know, it comes down to plane efficient and that's
what he's doing. He's being smart with the football for
the most part, uh, and making good decisions. Yeah, it's interesting.
You know, Aaron Rodgers, they churched some of that RPO
stuff last year. What you don't realize is these quarterbacks
like Ben and Aaron, they didn't play They didn't do
this in high school. They didn't do it in college. Right,
(24:48):
So it's not like you know, oh yeah yeah, like
with the younger quarterbacks, they've all played that way at
some point in time in the in their life. Like
back Big Ben only started one year in high school
when he did they running power. I like, you really
you didn't realize how how old those guys are. By
By comparison, Doug got lip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
what went so wrong for Aaron with they're up to nothing.
(25:10):
Then he throws the pick six and it felt like
he just kind of flung it out there. Um, but
he gives up two interceptions and then it just it
fell apart. What happened? Yeah, I mean, it's just it
wasn't It wasn't a good game, you know. I think
it must have been the end zone celebration right when
he scored to test that. From there it kind of
(25:30):
went downhill. But I just look at Rogers so far
on the year, seventeen big time throws so far, so
he's been playing out of his mind in that sense,
and only three turnover where he plays. The unfortunate thing,
the three turnover where he plays came last week against
Tampa Bay. You could tell he was just out of rhythm,
out of sorts. He didn't have that smooth, quiet confidence
(25:51):
about himself in the pocket. He was holding it on,
a hold on the ball, attat too long. Where you know,
the previous weeks to make good decisions, getting a bought
his hands, going through his progressions, staying on um task
at him. And this week, you know, a forty five
point eight passing grade for us, a three term ahead
he plays that that's not gonna win a lot of games.
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This thing though about Aaron Rodgers is going back to
our PFF data. Anytime he has graded under a fifty
PFF gray, he has exploded back on the scene. So
he's never followed up with a poor performance. So I
expect him to to get back into playing the way
he's been so far this year. I look at you know,
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green Bay last week, their protection wasn't good, you know, upfront,
offenseive line, too many leakages. Uh, in the protection, running
back pick up pickups in the protection, very soft, not
attacking the defender given too much ground up. Uh. So
last week just wasn't a good game for Green Bay.
And you know it's gonna be it. It's fortunate that
(26:54):
now they could bounce back and have something to learn from.
Sometimes when you come off of by you get a
little slow beat. Yeah, I mean that. And and last
year it happened when they traveled to the West coast,
they got a little sloppy and they got kind of
smacked around. Uh. Doug gotlip show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Brush Gikowsky our guest, Um, what's reaction to to a
(27:14):
being announced as the starter so soon? Um? I was
at I was a little surprised, But then you know,
in the other side, I was surprised for the fact
that I love Fitzpatrick. I think he's great in the
locker room. I think he's great in the huddle. He's
that proven better and he understands the offense. But I
wasn't surprised in the sense of when I was grading
(27:34):
the throws Sunday and the Monday, I kept looking. It
was towards the end of the game too, and I'm like,
why do you throw that? Oh? And and there was
a few bad decisions. I was like, come on, fits
like that really stood out to me, you know, because
I was expecting, you know, perceptions reality, right, the perception
all the Dolphins one I was a good game too,
(27:56):
got his first few throws, all that's that's sweet, that's cute.
And then I kind of graded Fitzpatrick. I was like, oh, no,
he didn't plays as well as I thought. I mean,
he had zero big time throws for US in three
turnover worthy plays. You know, he was a thirty rank
quarter quarterback this past week, uh with a passing grade
of fifty point six, So he did not, you know,
(28:18):
play very well. And I was kind of surprised at
the decision, but in the other sense, Look, two is
the future. Um, the Dolphins are playing competitive right now,
so I think too of you know, we'll do maybe
a better job protecting the football. And also he's more
athletic to extend plays to his very quick twitch that like,
(28:40):
you know what, that's what I like about him coming
out of college. So I mean, man, maybe this gives
the Dolphins more of an opportunity with him behind center.
And you also know, look, he's the future, so why
not just get him in there now, give him some action, um,
and live and die with him behind center. So I
don't hate the decision, you know, it just always things
because we love fits as the person and what he's
(29:02):
brown to this game and his competitive nature. Why were
the Patriots so bad? Well, I think you know, you
look at the Patriots, and I know Belichick pointed it out,
but when with all this COVID stuff, you're not getting
a lot of field time and in practice, and with
Cam Newton, I mean it's it's important. Like I was
a practice guy. I needed practice. I couldn't just show
(29:23):
up like big band in a game and throw for
three seventy six yards against the Browns. H the one
game Ben went in as a backup to Landry Jones.
I'm sitting there like bending to get a single rep
all week. He has a bad ankle or whatever he
had at the time, and Landry Jones gets hurt. In
the first series of the game, Ben goes in and
(29:44):
rips the Browns for like three d seventy seven yards
or something like that. It was ridiculous. And some guys
just need the practice and some guys are just straight
ballers no matter what. And I just think it's important
that the Patriots do get back to practice, do get
back to the details, because that's how they have to win.
They don't have guys that are just going to take
(30:05):
over games. Uh. They have to win by a good
team effort offensively, defensively, and special teams. And I just
think right now that Patriots offense isn't doing much. Not
a lot of guys winning outside and you know, or
if they do win, Cam if he's got to make
the throws or it's just Cam you know, sprinkling some
(30:26):
some of his runs, but that's just not going to
get it done. So I expect the vast improvement this
week because of the way Bill Belichick coaches and Josh McDaniels.
So I'm looking forward to watching them play, but I
still don't think. I don't think they'll pull it out
against the Niners. It's almost like Kyle Shanahan is a
younger version of Bill Belichick, but the offensive minded Bill Belichick.
(30:47):
So it's always fun to watch these two two teams
go at it. I'm gonna see Daniel Jones tonight. He
is a turnover guy. I mean, I um is everything
else he's doing good enough to wait for him to
fix his turnover issue. You know, well you pointed out
sometimes in the pocket Daniel Jones doesn't protect the ball
that well. He can drift back at times, and that
(31:09):
you know is not good for his offensive line. And
I look, you know Wednesday and Daniel Jones. It's the
tale of two halves for these guys. In a sense
of we're six weeks done in the season. The first
three weeks Wentz was awful, right I mean right now.
He has a total of seventeam turnover turnover worth he
plays for us the PFF. Twelve of those came in
(31:29):
the first three weeks, but these last three weeks he
cut him in half. He only has five Turner worthy
played in same time. Same thing with his big time throws.
These last three weeks he has doubled his big time throws.
So Wentz is on the uprise. Well. Daniel Jones actually
is the opposite. Jones started off the season the first
few weeks grading really good, number six eighty nine grade
(31:52):
for US in rhythm UM and now in rhythm he
grades at twenty three for US the last three weeks.
So these two guys are for in spectrums right now.
I feel like the Eagles and Wins are a little
on an uprise, and Jones and the Giants are kind
of even though they're coming off their first win. I
think Jason Garrett has to do more offensively to help
him out put his young quarterback in good positions. Uh,
(32:14):
the stuff you see with McVeigh, the bunch formations that
the Jett sweeps, the misdirections and things of that sort.
And you know, a guy like both these quarterbacks though,
because how competitive they are. Um, so it'll be a
fun game to watch. Great stuff. Bruce, Bruce, love your
work at Pro Football Focus. Tell everybody we said hello
and thanks for joining us. Yeah. Thanks, Doug, have a
(32:35):
good weekend. Pleasures all my Bruce Gradkowski I do spent
over a decade in the league. He knows it, he
studies it, and now he works for Pro Football Focus.
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Radio Fox Sports when we call it No. This was
(34:02):
Colin Coward talking about Aaron Rodgers getting testy with the media.
This one. Things are great for Aaron. He is on
top of the world. He is condescending, he is glib,
he is discount double check and when they are bad,
he is moody and bad body language and snippy and
I don't want to talk about it. Teams become their quarterback.
(34:23):
Now Aaron is now in a bad mood, and Green
Bay is going to take it out on Houston because
if you go look at Aaron, Aaron gets really high
during the winning streaks, and then last year they go
to the Chargers and just get walloped, and Aaron said publicly,
we got a little too into ourselves. And then Aaron
this year, green Bay got off to a great start
and then they get beat by Tampa and Aaron comes
(34:45):
out and goes, we got a little too into ourselves.
Or maybe Aaron, You've got a little too into you.
But you never hear Russell Wilson say that because he's
seeking neutral no peaks, no valleys. This is why Seattle
is such a great come from behind team. That is
why Russell Wilson almost never gets blown out despite having
the last three years a horrible offensive line. Teams become
(35:08):
their quarterbacks. You know, it's interesting Colin started the week saying,
you know, um that Aaron's a Baylor. I think it's
like percent of the games that he trails in he winscent,
whereas one of the one of the closest competitors to
him is actually Russell Wilson's like, like the percentages is, Look,
(35:28):
I'm not gonna attack Russell Wilson because Russell Wilson always
says the right thing. That's who he is. But there's
a lack of realness to him. There just is uh
certain kind of plastic, fake facade that I think a
lot of people see through. Whereas Aaron, Yeah, he can
be annoyed, he can be a little arrogant, but at
(35:49):
least there's a little reality to it where it seems
to be missing with Russell. I guess my point is, like, look,
if I heard Colins say that Aaron's attitude is what
hurts the Packers. The Packers won thirteen games last regular
season and beat the Seahawks in the playoffs. This year,
(36:14):
UM there four and one on the year. They were
beaten in Tampa against the Bucks. Um Seattle has not
lost a game to this point this year. They played
plenty of close games, some against inferior competition, some against
good competition. But the idea that Aaron's holding them back
when they're four and one the season they were kicking
everybody's ass until they came out of the bye week
(36:36):
and got beaten after leading ten or nothing kind of
the opposite of the facts. What it feels like to
make Doug Otlap show here on Fox Sports Radio. Um,
you know, if we're doing by or if we were
doing the your favorite college helmet, who would it be?
(36:58):
Do you like Michigan's helmet for example, Well, just because
of um my Ohio State fandom, it's very difficult for
me to to like that, so I would move, I
would move away from that. I do think that Alabama's
simplicity and the cleanness of it is very good. I
love the the Ohio State helmets when they where the
(37:20):
what you could call the silver bullet helmets. They're normal ones.
Um I like those. Um, yeah, there's there are a couple.
I would say. Even the Clemson paw is is nice,
more simplicity for me in college football than anything else.
But Alabamas to me is is pen state. You like
(37:40):
clean and easy? Yeah, that's almost too clean. But they
do have the stripe down the middle. But the the
Alabama to have the crimson color with the white numbers, yeah,
I like. I mean listen, um, Oklahoma's is pretty clean
and crisp um. The helmet game stuff is pretty awesome.
It's fun to play, you know, a lot of it.
(38:01):
It's hard to do with the colors, you know, like
there's only so much organ can do. They obviously they
go away from the green and yellow. That's what brick
kind of Baylor runs into. Right. I love Texas helmets.
I love them in classic, long worn there's your logo. Yeah,
I like I like L s U s um And
I also think that there's something very unique with old
Miss just having the old Miss cursive. Um. So when
(38:24):
you talk about unique helmets, yeah, I could go for that. Um.
Worst helmet in the NFL is who I said, Patriots,
and and it's Patriots because it's in their helmet is
so blah in comparison to how good the teams are.
Maybe the team is kind of blah the most people.
That's how it works. I don't like the new Jets helmet.
I think it's bad. Everything about the Jets is bad. Yeah,
(38:45):
and I'm not a fan of the Falcons either. Um.
I think that they're they just move away from that
other great old bird. You don't like the birder, you
do like the bird, I don't. I like the old
bird that d Sanders Steve, Yes, what was wrong with that?
I don't know. This one is just a little too
much by the way. For those who don't realize, it's
in the shape of an F four falcons. That's I
(39:07):
didn't realize that either. I did not know. I did
not know that weird wacky wow. That's like the that's
like the Brewer thing I didn't know was an MB
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