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January 24, 2025 • 21 mins

Doug riffs on the Raiders. Doug reacts to Dan Patrick's take on Major League Baseball. Plus, Doug chooses among deserving candidates Jason Stewart deems as most annoying today. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
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App Hey, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome in. Oh e oh okay.
So Pete Carroll's a new head coach of the Raiders.
What do I think Classic Raiders?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Right?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's like Mark Davis is like, who can I? Who
can I?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
And you're like, oh, Tom Brady picked a guy who
he competed against in the Super Bowl and it's out
of respect. It does lead you to believe that. I'm
sure he probably asked Belichick first. All right, but let's
say it's like I'm good what I'm doing right, because
I mean the truth is, like Belichick, this is a

(00:56):
great deal for him to get a chance to coach
for a couple of years, make some money, then handed
off to his son. And I don't think he'd be
able to hand it off to his son if he
left that early. So they went with Pete Carroll, who's
USC guy tc USC. That was great for al. It's
like Mark Davis is once is becoming his dad. Let's
do something totally random that somehow ties to to USC,

(01:18):
somehow brings back the lore. Yeah, he's working with the
young quarterbacks, but does it really push the envelope. No,
I'm not going to sit here and go it's a disaster,
but it's just weird. But weird is the Raiders. The
Raiders do weird very well. Do weird very well? And
by weird very well, I mean they are. They have

(01:40):
been bad more often than they've been good. It stinks
because they do have very good fans. They have kind
of a cool persona. But I don't know. I mean,
he's seventy three. It's the opposite of Antonio Pierce being
young and inexperienced. But it's a it's definitely a different one,

(02:03):
but it's different and it's the Raiders, so it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
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Speaker 2 (02:16):
Let's Get the Fox Says and Now every day of
this time in the Bonus podcast and play for your
portion of previous show Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports One.
Here's Dan Patrick talk about the notion that the Dodgers
are ruining baseball?

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Do you have to embrace this like Yankee fans did
in a previous generation. There are dynasties where you just say,
you're not going to like us, deal with it, like
I don't think that the Chiefs aren't apologizing for anything, Like, okay,
you don't like us, So did the Patriots apologize?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Now you might say, are the Dodgers ruining baseball? Now
that's a bigger topic. But that's a topic really for
the commissioner. That's a topic for these owners of what
kind of sport do you want to run? Is it?
You can spend all this money, you can defer money.
You've got all these billions of billions of dollars with

(03:10):
the ownership group there, you've got a pipeline to players
in Japan. I mean, they're taking advantage of everything that
they have, all of their assets. But why wouldn't you.
I mean, the NFL goes out of its way to
make sure you have parity. They're trying their best. You
have salary caps. They change the schedule. If you finish

(03:32):
in first, your schedule's tougher. If you finish in last,
it's easier. They go out of their way to keep
the fan bases engaged. And that's the only thing I
worry about.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah. Look, my thing with the Dodgers, and we've talked
about it on this pod, is they are Netflix and
they continue to diversify and spend that money to continue
to grow. Right, think of Netflix explosion as a stream company,
and then they started being a content company and now
they're into live sports. They're not sitting pat and being

(04:08):
okay with making all this money to just do the
same thing over and over and over again. They're diversifying
their portfolio. For the Dodgers, they spent a bunch of
money won a World Series. They don't want to just
win one. They want to win all of them. And
within the rules of the system, they're not violating any
of them. So I'll hear none of If you think
anything is killing baseball, it's baseball. Here's Brady Quinn talking

(04:34):
about Baker Mayfield having yet another coach leave for a
head coaching job.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
The toughest thing is for Baker Mayfield, it's somebody's third
offensive coordinator in three years. And I would argue this
as much as an agent is feeding these stories to
I don't care who it is, whether it's Schefter or
you know, our Jordan Schultz or whoever. You know, it's
not Liam Cohen making Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield is now
two years in a row helped guys get head coaching.

(05:00):
He helped Dave Canalis go to the Carolina Panthers, and
he's helping Liam Cohen go to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Baker
Mayfield is playing some of his best football and because
of that, it's allowing these guys to be able to
move on to become head coaches. And they're putting that
on their resume because the truth of the matter is
it's been with them one year. It's not like those

(05:20):
guys have like, oh, developed and grown and helped him mature. No,
it's Baker. They've done a good job from play calling standpoint,
but he he deserves a lot more credit for the
way he's played in Tampa and helping these guys then
use that to springboard into a head coaching opportunity for him. So,
you know, good for these guys, but you know, good

(05:41):
for Baker Mayfield just in the sense of how well
he's playing right now and the impact that has on
everyone around him.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I think that's fair. I think it's really fair. Baker
getting getting dudes' jobs is something that attracts other high
quality head coaches. Here's Colin Cowhard talking about the Raiders
hiring Pete Carroll.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
I'll get to the Cowboys in a second. Every day
you wait to hire a coach, you're losing out on
the best assistance. So just think about that. There's a
finite number of elite NFL assistants. Make decisions, make him quickly,
and the Raiders have chosen Pete Carroll. He's an adult
in the organization needs one. I like the choice. I

(06:19):
said this. I had no problem if he went to Chicago.
I thought he was a good fit there. I think
he would have been a good fit in Dallas. I
think he's an excellent fit with the Raiders. They need stability,
they need culture, and Pete provides that. And in a
division where you have to face Andy Reid twice, Jim
Harbaugh twice, Sean Payton twice, pretty good bet that a

(06:41):
coordinator who's never been a head coach just won't do.
And Pete's history is he is good with young quarterbacks.
He was good with young Russell Wilson. He was good
with young ger Drew bledsoe, he was tremendous with a
young Mark Sanchez or a young Carson Palmer.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
That is all true. You know. The question is what
is his plan for quarterback, what is his plan for
offensive coordinator? And how does it work in terms of
draft or do they take somebody who's on their second
sort of go round. That's that's the big question. That's
what the Fox said.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
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Speaker 2 (07:34):
Let's find out who or what is annoying Jason Stewart.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
And now it's your annoying.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
So Kim Newton was on first take. Remember he's broke,
he's got to work, so he's doing a lot of
first take and he he was talking to stephen A
about the fact that at the time he said this,
Mark Andrews had not spoken to the media, and he's like, hey,
don't hold Mark Andrews the standards that you yourself can't follow.

(08:09):
Here's his reasoning.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
I'm going to go with the unpopular pick, but I
want everybody to keep this same energy in other commodities
and politics and entertainment and sports, no matter what it is,
and we haven't been holding people to the same fire.
So Mark Andrews, it's okay, bro, you ain't got to
talk to nobody because in other networks there's lawsuits that's

(08:34):
been out. We ain't heard nobody say nothing about that.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Now, we gotta get the things that's coming up.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
When there's a Fox report that comes out, and we
haven't heard anybody speak about anything or make any type
of public announcement. Nobody has held Fox to that same thing.
So why are we talking about making a big fuss
about Mark Andrews if you're not going to keep that
same energy across the board.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
That's what I'm saying. He says. He's saying in all
different industries, people don't have to.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I just didn't understand what he was saying.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's you just saying in all different industries, people don't
have to be like held accountable and go in front
of a mic right away.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
I think that what's annoying about this. I mean, it's
a ridiculous point. He's trying to compare apples to apples.
He's talking about a a lawsuit that has ruined the
reputations of at least one person, probably two, and they
are under strong advisement i'm sure by their lawyers to

(09:31):
not say a single word because I guess responding to
it gives it credence and or they if it goes
to trial, they don't want to be held accountable for
what they've told the media. Completely different situation than Mark Andrews.
You said on this show yesterday that because he's a
tight end, I guess the team didn't need to make

(09:52):
him available after the game. I did find it curious
and it took him three days to do or say something.
I think it it was largely prompted by the the
charity contributions by Bill's mafia. But I do think that
it's a completely different situation. An athlete that made an

(10:13):
awful mistake and at the very least owes some kind
of an explanation or sentiment to the fans, and someone
who is being sued and can't speak about it.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, it's it was. It's like one of those things
that like how can I how can I tweak fox
about a lawsuit and yet try and do this job. Look,
Cam Newton only has the job because he complained on
his podcast that ESPN, you know, wouldn't hire him because
they were scared of what he was saying or whatever.

(10:50):
And he also does the race baiting stuff. The reality is,
I'm surprised that Cam Newton didn't own up to his
own mistakes when he lost the Super Bowl, and he
is terrible at answering questions, which, by the way, it's
the Super Bowl. You're the quarterback, you're the MVP of
the league. You got to answer questions. Then he had
two days later, they were in Carolina and it was
all about diving on a football. If you remember, they

(11:11):
were down six points Denver Broncos. He fumbled and he
was like, yeah, I didn't want to dive on it
because I'm worried about somebody getting my legs. I'm like,
it's the Super Bowl, dude, anyway. But Cam's just in
denial of the fact that he didn't. He didn't meet
the standard of what you need to be as a

(11:31):
Super Bowl quarterback. And if he wants to argue that
how Mark Andrews was handled is how he should be handled,
that would be reasonable. Instead, this is a bizarre non
sequitur that has nothing I mean zero to do with reality,
not a thing. It's embarrassing, completely embarrassing.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
I have to give Antonio Brown credit because he puts
out a lot of stuff. A lot of it's like
X rated, so it's probably become white noise to it,
but to a lot of people. But two weeks ago,
he sent something on his Twitter that was really funny.
Cam Newton was there was a clip of Cam Newton
jumping from like a submarine to a helicopter for this

(12:16):
Navy Seal show. Ridiculous clip. Antonio Brown quote tweets it
and said this N word wouldn't jump on a football.
Oh man, that was funny. So Ryan Clark took to

(12:36):
his Pivot podcast to you know, he's had He's had
a week, Ryan Clark, just to get our listeners up
to speed. Marcellus Wiley has been calling him out, you know,
Jason Whitlock, of course, but a lot of people have
been calling him out on this Lamar Jackson stance that
Lamar had to win for us and Lamar not winning

(12:58):
is letting us down. And people started to call him racist.
And he's trying to be introspective here.

Speaker 8 (13:07):
Listen to this, like I can't lie man, having all
of these spaces say I'm a racist was tough on me,
and it was hard as much as you try to
say you don't care about certain things and you can
ignore things as they as they come, like that thing, right,

(13:28):
like the thing you speak against, the thing you want
to eradicate, the people you want to change. It's like,
I'm not you know, I couldn't get it. And like
I've heard race beata right, Like the people who want
to uphold racism or want to act like it doesn't exist,
who call you that so they could devalue your words.

(13:52):
Whenever you speak truth to light, I mean.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
You mean you have your own teck on that dog.
Maybe you're annoyed by something you just said. But this
is this is kind of my angle on this. When
when you are in the shit storm and people with
boot check marks or former boots check marks are coming
after you and you're in the middle of it, I
think it's really easy to dismiss all of it as

(14:17):
haters because Twitter is filled with a bunch of bots
and stuff that are haters. But I think what Ryan
Clark is failing to do is to take the actual
sensible criticism and then maybe rethink the way he's going
about things, Like there's a difference between pure hate on
Twitter and then people that have like a certain kind

(14:39):
of pedigree in this trying to say, dude, what you're
saying is pretty racist. Maybe you should rethink that. Like, Doug,
you've been in the immedia. You've been in a social
media shit storm since that, since the December tweet. Yeah,
I mean, have you dismissed all negative tweets on Twitter
as just this one some of people that that hate

(15:02):
or are there are there actual things on Twitter that
you've seen? You're like, you know what, I actually respect
that guy, and maybe he's coming from somewhere.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I don't respect I. Here's what I think of Ryan Clark.
I think when he just does the job of talking
about football, I think he's a bright, articulate guy. I
think he has he whatever happened to him in the
pre kind of COVID where people lost their mind in

(15:36):
the protest, the summer of protests, all that stuff, he changed.
He changed. And you know, there's at least like once
a week he makes some sort of argument that has
something to do with race, where you're like, what's wrong
with you, dude? To answer your question like do I

(15:59):
look at reply? No, No, but I do. I have
plenty of friends who I respect, who are like, hey, dude,
like might want to do this, might want to do that,
might want to you know, yeah, yeah, And you have
to have real friends that say real things to you.
So I think I do, but I don't know if

(16:22):
Ryan does. And look, Ryan's been rewarded during these last
couple of years where you and I have noted that,
you know, basically he's I don't know. I don't know
if you want to call race baiter or actual racist, right,
because when it's things are anti white regardless, you can
be racist to be black, quite obviously. And I don't think.

(16:44):
I don't think he is. I just think he is
so desperate to feel like the world treats everybody the same.
He doesn't actually realize that he's being hypocritical and treating
people differently. I actually think that's what it is, I guess,
but part of that is I give people so much
of the benefit of doubt. The problem with accepting real criticism.

(17:06):
Jase dow is like, he got promoted to ESPN, he
got the inside the NFL gig, and he has his
podcast which grew in leaps and bounds mostly because of
the other two gigs, right, and so it's very hard
to go, Hey, what you're saying isn't landing right. It's
super divisive. It's sort of embarrassing to you, a man

(17:29):
of high intelligence, that you think you're saying something that
is not in any way accurate, and it's just not
a great look. Meanwhile, the world, by his own estimation,
is telling him he's doing great because he keeps getting
making more and more money, getting more and more media gigs.
Am I making sense.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
Makes sense to me?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Charles Barkley had this to say about politics wis.

Speaker 9 (17:57):
Did people were smarter personally. I think these politicians both parties.
I think both parties suck, but I think they do
a really good job of making us not like each other.
America is not Racism exists, always has and always will.
Unfortunately it's a disaster. But what America really has become

(18:18):
is rik people against poor people. And I wish people
would understand that politicians do a good job of making
us fight with each other, but it's really rich people
against poor people. They try to make it about black,
white immigration, homosexuality and all these different things, but what
it is is rich people making poor people not like
each other. And until we address that, we're never going

(18:40):
to be successful.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
So I agree with a lot of that. But the
issue I have with Charles and Stephen a right. They
both voted for Kamala Harris and have since been saying
that they either regret it or both parties suck. I
think if you want to take democracy and the right
to vote at its pure form, is that we have

(19:02):
a voice and who leads us. And I think the
most underreported voices since the election have been the people
that chose to either not vote for the top of
the ticket or write in their own candidate like I did.
Nobody's reporting on those people. Trump got the exact same

(19:22):
amount of votes that he got in twenty twenty. She
got seven to ten million less than Biden. That means
that seven to ten million people chose to not vote
on the top of the ticket. That should tell you
a lot. I wish it was more. But if you're
Barkley or Stephen Knight Smith, like, if you really think
both suck and we have a voice, don't vote for either.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Umm.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that's realistic.
The stephen a thing is like literally the most cowardly
thing ever, right, you voted for and he wanted to
change his vote before Donald Trump had spent a day
in office, like what had happened since Donald Trump had

(20:11):
had had won the election, to the point where like
a week later he was like, yeah, I would have
wish I would have vote Like he's basically the kid
that only wants the root for the team that won.
That's it, you know, that's it. There's no like closing
argument that changed it. As for Barkley, he is right.

(20:31):
I mean, both parties do suck, But the problem with
it is what is the change? What is the change?
He's not wrong. We weaponize all these other things, abortion, homosexuality, taxes,
you know, whatever, dealing with rush, you know, and then

(20:54):
we get people, i mean, we get people in charge
who are rich that take care of each other and
take care of themselves, and the idea of government is
to take care of all of us. And I'm sure
that's his level of frustration. Okay, So who's the most annoying.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Ryan Clark, Cam Newton, Charles Barklay.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I think Cam Newton because it's a complete non sequitor
it made no sense, and it was so forced, it
was so uncomfortable, and it so does it. It had
nothing to do with any sort of discussion. And he
has his own shit from the super Bowl, which he
never owned up to. Cam Newton, you're annoying.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
All right.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's it for the In the Bones podcast. I'm Doug Gottlieb.
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