October 8, 2018 • 42 mins
Colin wonders how the Eagles feel after talking all off-season about how great their culture is and lecturing the Patriots on how having fun is more important than winning. He defends Odell Beckham Jr. for calling out some of his teammates because OBJ was right. Plus, Super Bowl Champion Greg Jennings tells Colin why you can put a lot of the responsibility for the Packers loss on Aaron Rodgers shoulders. Presented by Perky Jerky.
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Thanks for listening to the Best of Herd podcast. Be
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you may be and however you may be listening live
in Los Angeles iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Rudio on FS one,
Joy Taylor, who was covering that rams Seahawks game up
in the Pacific Northwest yesterday, Wild game from one hour
from now, Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong,
and there is a bunch of both. We have an
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absolutely great show today, Trent Dilfer, Michael Vick, Greg Jennings,
Tony Gonzalez and where Colin was right, where Colin was
wrong in one hour. Let me start with this. Winning
is hard. It's hard in life. It's one thing to
be successful, but then to maintain success, I could argue,
is even harder. What New England has done for eighteen
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years is amazing, probably never be duplicated. But when the
Philadelphia Eagles won a Super Bowl, Oh remember what Lane
Johnson said, I'd much rather have fun and win a
Super Bowl than be miserable and win five like the
New England Patriots. Well you're gonna get your wish there, chief,
because Philadelphia is a mess right now. Didn't we predict this?
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Didn't we tell you that Philadelphia the puff your chess
city led by Lane Johnson suspended twice by the way
for peeds. You know, you know, guys like that, the
shortcut guy. He was also the guy that was the
impetus for the dog masks. Oh who let the dogs out?
I don't know, they get let out all the time
in Foxborough without the masks. Lane Johnson. It was his
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guy that created that fumble slash interception yesterday. Lane Johnson
did a terrible job on that play, an absolutely terrible
job on that play. Virtually unblocked, creates the ball in
the air, it gives the Vikings a touchdown and game
officially over. It should be noted that last week, fun
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guy who let the noogs out guy also that a
terrible job on a blocking play that created a hit
and a fumble and created the inertia for the Tennessee
Titans to win their biggest game of the year over Philadelphia. Hey,
Lane Johnson, twenty four hours in a day, eight of
its work, eight of its sleep, and eight of its
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fun and social. But the work part is called work
for a reason. Okay, we all have we all go
to a Christmas party. It's called you know, the Christmas
slash holiday partee. Work is not designed to always be
a good time. But Lane Johnson's history is short cut. Guy.
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You know, happy hour two hours early when there's a
lot of work to still get done. Guy, Hey, instead
of committing to a project or a game plan, who
let the dogs out? Mask? Guy zooe is? I mean,
first of all, the idea that you'd rather win one
super Bowl than five if you have to put in
more work is such a loser comment. In any business,
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it's called work. But Philadelphia fell into a trap, and
we predicted it. Even in their own division. The Cowboys
have five Super Bowls, The New York Giants have four
Super Bowls, Washington has three Super bowls. Philadelphia has one,
and they're suddenly lecturing everybody else in football on Hey,
this winning thing. Here's how it's done. Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
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Marginally briefly successful guy doesn't get a lecture Nick Saban
or Belichick on how to win it football, Lane Johnson,
your guy this week and your guy the previous week
is the one that shot through and a leverage and
opportunity and inertia for the other team. Min The Eagles
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got a real winner here. They got shortcut guy. Create
a dogmask. Guy. Work should be fun, guy, I mean
Chris Carter nailed it on first things First. It is
embarrassing when briefly successful guy suddenly lectures the NFL's greatest
dynasty on what winning is all about. We have more fun.
How much fun you have in now? That's what I
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want to ask, Lane Johnson. How much fun you haven't? Like?
You're not the best right tackling pro football? That offensive
line there was a dominant force. They're no dominant force. Nope. Again,
it's hard to win super bowls. Troy Aikman worked hard,
Tom Brady works hard. The great ones, Ray Lewis worked hard.
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It's not all fun. The thing that's truly fun in
football because it's the only sport where you practice six
times as much as you play. Basketball doesn't w that way.
Hockey didn't work that way, Baseball didn't work that way.
Football is the only sport where you practice six times
more than you play. And the one thing that's oh
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is fun even in a bad locker room, is winning.
And Lane Johnson took it upon himself dog mask guy
to lecture New England on the winning thing. Embarrassing, all right,
So let me defend Odell Beckham. Oh, people are going
crazy on Odell Beckham. And by the way, Odell Beckham
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just signed a massive contract. He is the face of
the franchise, not the quarterback. He is a superstar in
the NFL, And unlike the NBA and baseball, where contracts
are guaranteed, in that New York Giants locker room, there
are very few people that can say how they feel
and not get cut and not get demoted. There is
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a responsibility in professional football for the handful of players
who can say whatever they want and not get demoted.
To bring up the elephant in the room. So the
New York Giants Odell Beckham had an interview before the game,
and he said, regarding Eli Manning, I don't know. I
feel like he's not going to get out of the pocket.
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We know Eli's not running. Can he still throw it? Yeah?
But you know it's been pretty safe. You know it's
cool catching shallow stuff. But you know, I want to
go over the top someday. Is he wrong? Is that inaccurate?
Do you call him a terrible teammate? Did he say
I think we should demote him. It's the elephant in
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the room in New York City right now, the elephant
in the room. Every family's got an elephant in the room.
It is the responsibility of the outspoken, successful member of
a family to talk about the elephant at the room. Hey, Grandma,
no more driving. You're dangerous. Hire a driver. Somebody else
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drives for your grandma. Uncle Phil, those comments at Thanksgiving
are totally inappropriate. It's no time for politics, Dad, you're
drinking too much. Settle down. Somebody in every family has
to express an opinion that's uncomfortable. It's called the elephant
in the room. And by the way, the owner of
the New York Giants won't do it. They should have
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drafted a quarterback. They wouldn't. The GM of the Giants
could have had Sam Darnold, could have had Josh Allen
could have had Josh Rosen. He didn't. So nobody else
in the room wants to address the elephant in it,
which is Eli appears to be mostly a shot fighter,
so if Odell Beckham won't And by the way, he
did it respectfully, he just basically said things that are true, like,
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you know, he's not going to run. He's dealing with
underneath routes. He's not going to get out of the pocket.
We know he's not running. This is outrageous. No, that's
just telling Uncle Phil, Uncle Phil cool it. On the
Donald Trump comments Thanksgiving, it's not cool, Dad, you're drinking
too much. Grandma, you shouldn't be driving anymore. Somebody's got
to say that stuff. Somebody has to say that in
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every family, or the problems fester and nobody talks about them.
I mean, good Lord. The Giants keep giving Eli. They
spend a fortus none a left tackle, they draft a
running back, they sign another wide receiver. That how many
gifts can they give Eli? Manning new coach, check star
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running back, check left tackle, check, draft another offensive lineman, check,
get more receivers. Check. They're checking all the boxes and
it's still a bad offense, I mean they're over at
this point, they're over compensating for it. So I'm gonna defend. Remember,
football is unique. You can get cut Tom Brady could
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be cut tomorrow. It'd be a cap hit, but you
could cut him. You can't cut Aaron Judge. You're not
gonna cut Bryce Harper. You're not gonna cut Staph Curry. So,
in a sport where very few players, I mean a
handful of players have real power, have real leverage, or
a face of a franchise, Odell Beckham talked about something
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that made everybody, oh a little uncomfortable, and he didn't
regret it after the game, Like we don't. We don't.
If we're not all on the same page, if it's
not authentic and real and we can all understand each other,
then there's gonna always be miscommunication. I'm just excited about
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the way we pulled together. Like I said, we came
up short, but we fought today. I haven't felt any
more closer than I have in the last twenty four hours.
And like I said, if it took that to bring
us together, I could take that. At the end, they
came out with the win, but I'm proud of where
we stand. Even though we're wanting four, this game today
is going to be monumental for our season in my eyes. Okay,
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if the those comments were so disruptive, and I watched
every snap of this game, it was one of the
craziest games in the NFL this season. It was a
weird game. But if they were so disruptive, why did
the Giants finally play well? Some of you were listening
to me, some of you were watching. There's stuff happening
in your family. If you're the one that's the strongest,
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the safest, the smartest, you owe your family to bring
it up. Odell Beckham Junior, somebody had to talk about
Eli Manning the elephant in the room. Be sure to
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nine Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the
iHeartRadio app. We always tend to say that coaches, these
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coaches are go for it, gutty guys, and these guys
are conservative. All football coaches are conservative. They are They
all vote almost all of them vote conservative. They're conservative guys.
The history of football. You think Bill Belichick's a big
go for it guy. Yeah, when Tom Brady became great
and he already had two Super Bowl trophies. Bill suddenly
got much more courage because he had job security. Coaches
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are all conservative. When the two point conversion was offered
several years ago, coaches didn't want it. Coaches didn't want
the two boy in conversion, even though it was good
for football. Why because it would put the onus on them.
They would lose games going for it. Coaches are all conservative.
Coaches don't want to go for it on fourth down now. Situationally,
if you have the great running back Todd Gurley, if
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you have the great offensive line rams and you're on
the road and you've been playing four hours, but Jason
Garrett's getting crushed because he didn't go for it. Now,
I would have gone for it, but I understand what
he's thinking. Our offensive lines is not as good as
they should be. Houston has got much better defensive personnel
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right now out front than we do. And by the way,
if I lose this thing on national TV, now, I
would have gone for it because I thought Dallas got outplayed.
I thought the field position was a go for it
field position, and I think when you're on the road
for four hours, you're into overtime. You got to kind
of create an identity. And the one knock I have
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on Dallas this year, they don't have any identity, and
this was a chance to be Hey, this is our identity.
We're gonna be a go for it team. Offensively, We're
not going to be the most clever or the most intuitive,
but we're gonna be a go for it team. But
let me just tell you something. Everybody this morning saying,
look at Sean McVay. Look at Sean McVay. Okay, now
think about this. Sean McVay has Todd Gurley, a great quarterback,
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a tremendous offensive line, the best offense in football, and
he had to be talked into it. He sent his
punter out initially, and Pete Carroll called the time out,
thought about it, went okay, an inch all sad. My
guys back in so even clever, crazy, wild, Sean McVay,
boy genius, Sean McVay. Initially he was gonna punt. They
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all want to punt. They didn't want the two point conversion.
They don't like it. Sean mcvay's the he's the riverboat gambler,
and he didn't want to go for it with Todd
Gurley and Sean McVay and mcgared Goff, and then he
didn't want to go for it, and then there's a
time out and he can think about it, and he's like, Yeah,
let's just go for it. So we're gonna crush Jason Garrett.
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And I would have gone for it too. You were outplayed,
you were on the road, you're four hours in. I
think you need to send a message. You don't have
an identity. I would have gone for to five Dallas.
But this idea that Garrett's clueless and mcvayh's a gambler,
it's not true. Bill Belichick once he had a couple
of trophies and he had job security. They don't fire
left tackles. They don't fire centers, they don't fire running backs,
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they don't fire they fire coaches and coaches. If you
look at the history of this league, they're all guys
that would prefer to not go for it, even the
riverboat gamblers, even the crazy guys, they'd rather not go
for it because that's how you get fired. In this league,
going for it and failing is very simple for media
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and fans to point to and go that's the reason,
because we don't look at we don't look at game film.
It's a very sophisticated sport of media. Could never even
drop up one football play. But the easiest thing for
a guy like me to go right there, fire him
right there is situational fourth down. You go forward it
to dumb play. And by the way, Doug Peterson got
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a book deal because of his crazy play on a
fourth down and goal. It's one of those plays and
it's high er low, home runner, strikeout, and most coaches
don't want to ever go for it. So I'm not
going to crush Jason Garrett even though I would have,
and I'm not going to elevate Sean mcvade of the
greatest coach of all time because he did because he
had to be talked into it. Here was Jerry Jones,
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Cowboys owner. He didn't like what Jason Garrett did. We
were being outplayed there, not out of effort, but we
just were being outplayed. And it's tim for risk that
I agree with Jerry's belief is mine. When you're getting
out played, you're on the road, you really should have
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lost this thing, and you have a chance to do it,
you go for it. You know, it's just like anything
else in life. If you know, if your vacation's been crap,
it's rained the whole time, and you're like, oh, should
we spend money on the helicopter tour, Well, the vacation's
been crap anyway, I want to just salvage the vacation
and spend a little extra money and do something really
fun for the kids. Like this game. Dallas got out played.
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They should have lost that game earlier. So Dallas. If
I'm the coach the Cowboys, I'm like, you know what, man,
four hours on the road. I got a bunch of alpha's.
I got to create some inertion energy here. I'm gonna
go for it. But don't make Garrett into a bomb
and Sean mcvah into a genius this morning. None of
these guys, really, really deep down in their soul, are
risk takers. They're really not. They're really not. Be sure
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to catch live editions of the Herd week dayson noon
Easter not a Empacific. When you get older, I would not,
of course ask Joy's age. I'm, you know, in my fifties,
and when you look back at life, there are certain
things that are absolutes. They call them truisms. They're absolutely
true and they'll never change. Like peanut butter and jelly
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sandwiches will always taste good to me. I don't come.
I don't care if they invent eight different kinds of kale.
I'll always like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich always
the rest of my life. And one of the things
that I've noticed at and I don't think at twenty
years old, no matter how smart you are, you don't
have enough life experience to look back and go, wow,
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this is true. You could read all the books you want,
you got to live it. One of the things I've
come to terms with, and this is just the way
human beings are. You can separate people into two groups.
Those people change is really hard. They can't change, they
don't like change, they fear change. And then there's another.
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And by the way, it's not just education levels. Some
people grow up in traditional families. They went to church.
It's mom and dad. They don't like change, they don't
like new They're gonna live where they grew up and
they're not gonna move. My sisters more like that. I'm
less like that. Then there's the other people that change
is inevitable. I kind of like change. I kind of
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like moving. I kind of like being forced to do
different stuff. I mean my whole life. I've seen this.
I see it in politics, I see it in sports,
I see it in families. I see it in life.
People that struggle would change, they don't even like to
eat bring it up. They'll complain about it. And people
that you know change is inevitable, let's embrace it. So
all weekend Look, Clay Matthews, I mean my whole life,
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I've been hitting this way. I can't change my whole life.
This is how it hit a quarterback guy, and the
media freaks out. It's killing the game. I can't believe it.
Did you watch football this weekend? All weekend long in
the NFL, all weekend long in the NFL Detroit against
Aaron Rodgers twice. Did you watch the Lions twice? They
went for the strip sack on Aaron Rodgers. Watch this
strip sack? Oh you mean they were coached all weekend
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long Aaron Rodgers. The Lions were coached to not squish him,
to not land on him, to evolve and adapt to
the rules. Von Miller Khalil Mack you're I watched all
weekend long, and all I saw was this. Aaron Donald
of the La Rams is grabbing quarterbacks, watch this and
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throwing them down. He didn't do that two and three
years ago. Aaron Donald now new rule. I'll grab twirl
you down. The elite players, just like the elite people
in life, are willing the change. Be stuck in the mud.
Live one way, never adapt. I mean this idea that
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you can't hit quarterbacks. Did you watch the Cowboys Texans
game last night? Those quarterbacks got the snot hit out
of him. I mean, Dak got pounded, Deshaun Watson got
bounded off. This idea that you can no longer hit quarterbacks.
Excuse me? Did you watch the Texans and Cowboys play
last night? Those quarterbacks took a pounding for four hours. Folks,
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look at America. The two hottest companies in America are
Netflix and Amazon, and both radically mid stream change their game.
Amazon just sold Bucks Netflix DVDs halfway through the game. Poula, Wow,
we gotta survive. We gotta change the way we do business.
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There's other opportunities here. So this idea. Whenever I hear people,
I mean, you just claim Matthews. This is it's just
all the media. It's just killing the game. Just like pilots.
Every year they add something to the cockpit and they
force you at Delta Airlines, they force you at Southwest Airlines,
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they force you at British Airlines to get a new manual,
memorize that and learn the new stuff. And it was
never more clear than in the Green Bay Detroit game.
Very smart plays. By the way, not only are those
guys stripping the ball. I mean the first guy especially,
they are going I mean they Eron in one hand
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and the ball. Look at this right here. I mean,
and by the way, he even flips off of Aaron.
He doesn't want to land on Eron. He hits the
ball and then he flips off Eron. I meant, if
you ask most quarterbacks, they'd rather take the sack than
have a fumble. Oh god, yes, but this is what's
going there's what's going to hand. By the way, it's
all the top guy. It's all the all the top
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guys in the industry of the NFL are like, yeah,
this is that what we gotta do it now? I mean,
Jadeveon clown, he's not he's grabbing you with one hand,
he's flipping you and he's going for the ball. So
you know, folks, homework doesn't stop in high school. You're
gonna have to do homework the rest of your life.
You're gonna have to come home from work and be like, oh,
I gotta change. We have a new manual, we have
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another meeting, we got another product. We gotta like. That's
that's life. Can I just say this, um speaking a
Green Bay, is that I know everybody is going to
beat up on Mason Crosby. And I don't like Kickers either,
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I really do. I have a bumper sticker on my car.
Don't like Kickers. They're a headache, They're head cases. You
can't depend on them. But I just want to throw this.
This is kind of crazy. This is kind of crazy.
You do get that they trailed twenty four nothing and
Aaron Rodgers wasn't any good in the first half, and
so when Aaron Rodgers has all these great stats in
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the second half. In the first half, his passer rating
was seventy two, he lost two fumbles, they both led
to scores. He passed for one hundred and forty yards,
and his completion percentage was under fifty percent those fumbles
led to ten points. That second half was garbage stats.
They were out of the game. So you know, Aaron Rodgers,
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as Greg ko Sells said last week on our show,
Aaron's hard to coach. Aaron's an improviser. Aaron's an ad libber.
It's any other thing about Aaron Aaron. I'm watching. You
know the guys that take shots in this league. Russell
Wilson takes a lot of shots, a lot of shots.
He runs around. Deshaun Watson takes a lot of shots.
He runs around. Aaron Rodgers takes too many hits. He
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takes too many hits. Those are on Aaron Rodgers. Well,
it's impossible to block for someone that's running around in certas.
That's tripe. But you know who doesn't take hits that
Tom Brady doesn't take hits. Drew Brees doesn't take hits.
I see a lot of guys in the NFL. They
don't take hits. Aaron's been in this league ten years.
Aaron takes hits a lot. He ad libs a lot.
He wasn't good in the first half. He hasn't been
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good this year a lot. It's not all on the kicker.
I mean Aaron didn't play well yesterday. They got into
a huge hole, and in the second half he piles
up garbage stats. It's not old with somebody else's faults.
Like Greg ko Sell came on our show. He's even
hard guy on film. To get your arms around. Rogers
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for me is a very, very difficult evaluation because he's
in rhythm when he's moving and out of rhythm when
he's playing from the pocket, which is the exact opposite
of most quarterbacks. He's more jazz musician than classical pianist.
He is now going to be thirty five. He's had
multiple surgeries. He's not very big. He takes a lot
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of hits. Drew Brees does not get hit like this.
Tom Brady does not get hit like this. Now yesterday
Matt Ryan got hit like this, but Matt Ryan generally
doesn't get hit like this. So you know, I like
Andrew Luck, but Andrew Luck gets hit a lot. Because
Andrew Luck held onto the ball too long. Aaron Rodgers
holds onto the ball too long. It's not olways somebody
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else's fault. I'm watching Aaron yesterday. He's bad in the
first half, missed open receivers. They're down twenty four. Nothing
that changes the complexity of the entire game. You're going
at halftime. It's a different football game. Now you have
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or on demand whenever you like. Every Monday, we do
it at this time, every single Monday. We do it.
In fact, it's gotten so popular. We do it during
the course of the year. Where Colin was right, where
Colin was wrong. So let's not waste any time. Let's
hit it where Colin was right. Listen, are blazing five
right now, I'm hitting sixty five percent on the year.
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That is, we're on fire. And it's not just that
we're winning. We picked underdogs. We picked Arizona as an
underdog to go on the road and win. We picked
the Jets over Denver, Sam Darnod, we picked the Vikings
over the Philadelphia Eagles. By the way, I've got Monday night,
I've got Washington as an underdog beating New Orleans tonight.
So I think the thing that makes me proudest not
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only that We've had four to five winning weeks, but
these games are very close. There's a lot of offense translate,
and that means what they call in the business backdoor covers,
where a team gets outplayed but they score late touchdown
when touchdowns are easier, take underdogs to cover. That's been
my theory and we've been right where Colin was row
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for years. I have defended Jason Garrett of the Dallas Cowboys.
He's not the most creative coach, but I thought yesterday
was a moment, and I thought he failed. The moment
is that he's gotta know, outplayed for three and a
half hours on the road with a struggling offense, this
team has no identity and Jason Garrett and I don't
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like to crush coaches on game calling. It's hard, they've
looked at film. But when you're on the road and
you've been outplayed and you can steal a double, you
gotta know that is a moment and you have to
go for it. And I gotta take one for the
team here. I was wrong. I've been so favorable toward him,
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and I thought in that moment he kind of butchered it.
Where Colin was so right, it's getting annoyed. I think
my greatest prediction in the history of this show happened
this weekend. So all these rookie quarterbacks, three of the
four were underdogs, and the Jets was a pick him
and I said on Friday, I think the rookie quarterbacks
are gonna go four and oh because I think if
you look at the games, I said Sam Darnold Denver
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on a short week, Jets played the worst game they
played in years. Watch them be buttoned up tight they did.
I said, watch Josh Rose and nobody watched him the
previous week because we were watching Baker Mayfield. Watch him
come out and be great. I said, watch Baker Mayfield.
They've got weapons, He's shown he can play. Baltimore's coming
off an emotional win, and what do you know, all
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the rookie quarterbacks won't even Josh Allen, who wasn't great.
But I'll tell you this about Josh Allen. That kid
can run. He's a big kid that can move around
and make throws. Maybe run too much, but I said
on a Friday, even though they're underdogs, this is gonna
be the weekend of the rookie quarterbacks coming out and
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all kicking major butt. Gotta be honest with you, that's
the greatest rite in the history of the show. Where
Colin was wrong. Yeah, Connor McGregor met his mismatch from hell.
This was not really competitive. Now, Connor's always one of
those guys that doesn't look like he trains as much
as everybody else. But I thought about the second round.
He looked ghassed. But this was really about fights. Styles
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make fights. This was a terrible style. Dana White had
never given Connor McGregor this kind of fighter, and now
we know why. He just looked awkward. He lost two fights.
He lost the fight in the ring and then when
the fight was over, and then the melee he lost
that one too. This was a bad night. I mean,
you were right trying to tell you. Yeah, could be.
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I'm not gonna feed my kids for a couple of
days because I bet a fortune on this and I
went down in flames. Where Colin was right. Did I
tell you or did I tell you that puff your chess?
Philadelphia would come back down to Earth. I thought they'd
still be a good team. But when Lane Johnson said
I'd rather have fun and win us super Bowl than
be miserable and win five. That is an awful, embarrassing
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comment for an athlete. This is about winning. This is
not like society where you have social nets for those
who fail, people who lose or losers, people who win
or winners. It's not about having a good time. It's
about winning games and in the process creating relationships and
environments that we all flourish. But it's hard. Football players
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work hard, they get hit, they get hurt. There's no
guaranteed contract. This is a sport for men. It's a
hard sport. So if you want to be get to
work and screw off and do a dog mask, No
that Jonathan Ogden and Walter Jones and Ray Lewis and
Brady it's hard work. And we sleep for eight hours.
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We have fun with our families for eight hours, and
we work. And there's a reason it's called work, and
there's a reason it's called a holiday party. Football is
the hardest of all sports. And Lane Johnson we predicted
it where Colin was raw. I have supported Hugh Jackson forever,
even last year. But when they went to overtime and
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he didn't know, did you see him put his hand
up here? He said two seconds left. Hey, hold on,
hold on, there's a moment here. I don't think Hugh
Jackson quite knows. He doesn't quite know. If we have
the picture of it. I think he doesn't know overtime's over.
I don't think he knows it's over. He's waving his
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players back off the field and the game's over. Listen.
I get players, especially young players, not knowing every overtime rule.
I get that. I'm not saying everybody every official has
to be Mike Pereira, but a head coach's job isn't
all the overtime stuff. And I've supported Hugh Jackson. I
supported him. I said he deserved to keep his job
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and he went over sixteen. But you got to know
the rules, Hugh. The game was over, especially in Cleveland,
when you got to know the rules when the game's over,
because you don't win when many of those when it's over.
Where Colin was right, Listen. We didn't have the Packers
last week in our top ten and got a lot
of pushback, and I said, folks, they don't have a
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running game. They're leading rusher yesterday. I had forty yards yesterday.
It was their kicking game. They got into a whole
twenty four nothing. I can be critical of Aaron Rodgers,
but I don't know when I look at this team,
I don't see Baltimore's talent. I don't see Pittsburgh's talent.
I don't see New Orleans talent. I don't see the
Rams talent. I don't see the Houston Texans talent. I
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don't see it. When I look at Green Bay, I
just do not see dynamic offensive, defensive pass rusher running plays.
So I'll say it again, I don't think they're a
top ten team in the NFL. And frankly, I thought
Aaron Rodgers had a bad first half. He didn't look
like a top ten quarterback in the first half yesterday
where Colin was wrong. Listen, I had Baltimore as my
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number one, number two team in the league, and yesterday
Joe Flacco went back to Joe Flacco. I got a question,
Joe Flacco six five, How does he have that many
passes batted down? I can't Colt McCoy didn't have that
many passes badded down. I can't figure it out. They
had a red zone pick, they didn't have a touchdown
all day, and frankly, they got too many weapons, and
they have a nice running back. This team has too
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many weapons to not score a touchdown. And Cleveland's got
all sorts of alpha's, they got all sorts of dudes.
But Joe Flacco with that, those tight ends and those
receivers and that back and that coaching staff, there's been
a lot of continuity here in Baltimore, a lot of continuity.
You can't go. You can't give me yesterday and I
defended Joe Flacco and I said he was gonna have
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a big year. And I'm not taking anything away from Baker.
He'd flew for a lot of yards. But that was
everybody's been telling me for three weeks. I'm crazy on
Joe Flacco. Love, you were right. I was wrong where
Colin was right. I said I didn't like the Gruden thing.
They're one and four. Derek Carr is struggling, and Derek
Carr's a heck of a player, but he's got sevent
tds and eight picks under John Bruden. Marshawn Lynch is
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a good back, Doug Martin's a good back. The old
line's above average. Jared Cook's a good tight end, Amari
Cooper can catch Matabus, Bryant's good deep threat. Jordy Nelson
can still play. I don't want to hear excuses. I
don't want to hear excuses. Two years ago Derek Carr
was an MVP candidate. Now he looks like he's lost confidence.
And by the way, the Raiders are last in sacks.
They gave up Khalil Mack, which I hated. I'm not
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an expert here, but there when you have that kind
of offensive personnel and you've got Derek Carr, and you
got that tight end and two backs and three wide
receivers and that offensive line, I don't want to hear.
I don't want to hear about Derek Carr. Sevent TDS
eight picks right now. The Gruden thing, I look right
where Colin was wrong. I had at Land in the
Super Bowl. Yeah, I kind of whipped on that now,
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some of its injuries, but they did solve their red
zone problems. And there's so much about this team and
this staff I like. But in the end, yesterday was classic.
They just got bullied. They got bullied at the line
of scrimmage. And this is the thing that I always
struggle with Atlanta, and I just I do this all
the time, that football is about moments and it's about toughness,
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and you can't teach a lot of that toughness and
a lot of those moments. Gosh, I always feel like
Atlanta in those moments gets bullied, gets pushed around and
doesn't deliver, and I can't put my arms around it.
But I just I went all in on him this year,
and how many times in the moment. I mean, yesterday
wasn't even competitive. Even those were two reeling teams. One
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app ten years too. Super Bowl ring multiple time pro
bowler used to be a friend Aaron Rodgers probably is,
but wouldn't admit it. Okay, Greg Jennings, so listen, it's
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easy to blame the kicker. I didn't think Aaron was
very good for the first hour and a half. I
didn't think he hadn't the end. Can we blame Aaron
a little bit for this? We can absolutely, of course.
For me, if I look at it from percentages, I
would put sixty percent of it on Mason Crosby because
he just he can't do that first game of his career. Yes,
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and he knows that, um, but forty percent of it.
I put it on Aaron Rodgers. I mean, you you
have the pressor you talk about the lack of offensive
play calling and creativity and all of these things. Uh
so you create a spotlight even more of a microscope
on yourself and you come out and you have the
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start that you had. Now, mind you, they've they've struggled
in ford Field the last two years. But Aaron, you can't.
You can't do that. And it's not so much what
his numbers ended up, because he did he do enough
for them to win? He did, That's not what I'm
most concerned about. For me, what stood out was his
body language, his demeanor, his lack of involvement with the
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guys during the game. Meaning he had a look on
him like he was disgusted, but it was kind of
that woe is here we go again. There was one
image that they shown during the broadcast of the game
where he went to the sideline. He put his hands
across his lap, He's sitting there. They showed his receivers
there on another bench, putting their looking as lost as
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little puppy dogs as well. There's no fire, there's no
if we have to operate, if we have to execute
these plays, if this is all we have, then guys,
let's make it happen. Let's make it work. When I
see Drew Brees, when I see Tom Brady, yea, they
get fired up because it's it's no longer in the
coach's hands. This is on us now, like, and you
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set the tone. You being Aaron Rodgers, you set the tone.
And that's what I did not like. Did he play eventually? Play? Well? Yeah.
By the way, I heard this years ago by a coach.
He said, Jay Cutler and Aaron Rodgers. There's some similarities
here that they kind of go off by themselves. They
grabbed their thing, they do their thing. They're kind of
in their own space. The difference is Aaron's an unbelievable
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talent and Jay Cutler wasn't as good a player. But
this is very rare for a player like you to
talk about this. Quarterbacks are more than arm and feet.
It's messaging, it's body language. Aaron can be kind of passive, aggressive,
he can be I would say, disengaged. He can't. And
I know guys who have played with him, not you,
that have said he can be moody. He gets into
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his own space. It was evident in the first half
and when you look at like we talked about him
when he made the comments early in the season. I
think it was training camp about or maybe early in
the season when he talked about their practices and how
they were underperforming. But coming into this game, I had
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an issue with him talking about the way practice went.
And we'll get into Odell eventually, but Aaron Rodgers that
he was asked about how was practiced this week, it
could have been better, Like isn't great, you know with
the young receivers kind of calling out the end and
this is all you have to go in the game with.
You don't have Randall Cobb, you don't have your guy,
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you don't have your nucleus of guys that you're typically
go into a game with. So if I was going
into a game with a backup quarterback, that would not
be what I'm saying. I would be saying, oh, we
we have all the faith in Matt Flynn in the world.
We will be just fine. We're good. He advertised, yes,
and so now all of a sudden, it's we go
into this game with this expectation of these young guys
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not pulling it through for him, when it was him
that came out flat. It was him that didn't set
the tone with the start of the game the way
that they wanted to. So I can't give him a
pass for that. Speaking of setting the tone, O b
J set the tone came out before the game in
an interview, was critical of Eli Manning. Not harsh, just honest,
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elephant in the room for one of the few times
I defended him. Your takeaway, I did defend him. You
did that, and I think most receivers are icing and
crazy people. Yeah, yeah, you don't have to go there.
I'm proud of you for that. I'm proud of you
for defending him. He could have said a lot more.
And I listened to I listened to Trent, and you know,
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we are taught to be politically correct and go into
these situations with a certain way. But there comes a
point in time in your career when you're you're just
tired of being fake and phone, You're tired of just
saying what everyone wants you to say. Totally get it.
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You're tired of it because it doesn't provide you with
anything antively, you don't get the answers with it. So
it's you get you get asked the question, and it's
up to you to then say, you know what, I'm
gonna be as honest as I can be without really
stirring the pot. We want we want all you athletes
to be leaders. Yes, leaders saying comfortable things, and he
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said an uncomfortable thing. That's what Lee ship is and
all this, all these headlines about should do the Giants regret?
But no, because before they paid them, everything was predicated on, well,
he's gonna have all these antics after his celebrations, sideline
and penalties and this, and that he hasn't done anything
but produced this year. Then the first thing that he says,
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it's it's really to motivate or to really address what
everybody knows. Is there Ben McAdoo, Benches, Eli Manning, he's done,
get rid of football, unlike basketball or baseball, no guaranteed contracts.
There's about three guys in every locker room that can
say that, and he's and if you're one of them,
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do you have a responsible You'll have to do it
because everybody in the locker room is looking at you like,
Ohdell Man, he's gonna say something like that. Is that
is locker room code. Guys in the locker room know that. Okay,
if I'm not the one that coach will listen to you,
are you have to be the one that, by the way,
Dallas Jason Garrett two minutes defend him. Jason Garrett made
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the right decision. He made the right decision. He went
with who he trust in that moment. Their defense was
playing excellent. They had stopped him in the red zone
and when you look at their offense, twenty rushes fifty
four yards, averaging two point seven yards to carry the
play before they lose a half a yard. Again, I'm
listening to you and Vic talking. Vick's like, oh yeah,
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we gotta go for a couple of dudes. I told
I told vick Man No, Man, absolutely not, because he
said the offensive line feels like, oh, you don't believe it. No,
I don't believe in you right now, and that should
that should fire you up, that should tick you off
to where the next time, we're not in the situation
because you did get us the one yard on Thursday,
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you would have setten the punter out absolutely because my defense,
that's who I trust right now. If if we're watching
the Warriors and Clayton Clay Thomas, Clay Thompson is has
the hot hand with the game on the line. Yeah,
we have Durant, we have staff, we have all these
other guys. But Steve Kerr is gonna try to find
a way to get Clay the ball because he's had
the hot hand. You don't go away from that. You
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go with what's gotten you there. By the way, I
gotta be honest. A minute and a half left, I
think what's happening to Philadelphia is funny. Hey, heyte New England,
Oh my, here we get so good. It is so
good right now, New England, let me tell you how
to win games in your face, dog mask guy Lane Johnson.
Let me let me let me tell you where I
could stand up here. I could come over there and
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just what kick you out of the New England will
tell you people, who are you? Wait till five weeks saying,
and he'd Lane Johnson gives up a strip sackle on
Carson Wentz and all of a sudden it's Lane Johnson. Yeah,
it's unfortunate timing for Lane Johnson. I mean unfortunate timing
we did we talk about in Week one. No, we
pick and choose the third defending Lane Johnson, I'm offending.
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I'm defending the Philadelphia Eagles because the season is not over.
They lost to a minutes at the Vikings, team that
gave up over five hundred yards of offense the last Thursday.
They got embarrassed when they went to Philly last year
in the playoffs. Of course they're gonna come out like this.
And then you got a quarterback that is your guy
who's played this is his third game back. He hasn't
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had an entire offseason or training camp to really develop
the report that he has developed in the meeting rooms,
to put in action physically that matters. He needs that time.
I'm not concerned about the Philadelphia Eagles and this whole
hangover stuff. I don't want to hear that because we
went fifteen to one. I keep saying this, there's no
such thing as a playngover. The Cleveland Browns, Do they
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have a hangover of being the worst team in the league. No,
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and there is a bunch of both. We have an
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absolutely great show today, Trent Dilfer, Michael Vick, Greg Jennings,
Tony Gonzalez and where Colin was right, where Colin was
wrong in one hour. Let me start with this. Winning
is hard. It's hard in life. It's one thing to
be successful, but then to maintain success, I could argue,
is even harder. What New England has done for eighteen
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years is amazing, probably never be duplicated. But when the
Philadelphia Eagles won a Super Bowl, Oh remember what Lane
Johnson said, I'd much rather have fun and win a
Super Bowl than be miserable and win five like the
New England Patriots. Well you're gonna get your wish there, chief,
because Philadelphia is a mess right now. Didn't we predict this?
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Didn't we tell you that Philadelphia the puff your chess
city led by Lane Johnson suspended twice by the way
for peeds. You know, you know, guys like that, the
shortcut guy. He was also the guy that was the
impetus for the dog masks. Oh who let the dogs out?
I don't know, they get let out all the time
in Foxborough without the masks. Lane Johnson. It was his
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guy that created that fumble slash interception yesterday. Lane Johnson
did a terrible job on that play, an absolutely terrible
job on that play. Virtually unblocked, creates the ball in
the air, it gives the Vikings a touchdown and game
officially over. It should be noted that last week, fun
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guy who let the noogs out guy also that a
terrible job on a blocking play that created a hit
and a fumble and created the inertia for the Tennessee
Titans to win their biggest game of the year over Philadelphia. Hey,
Lane Johnson, twenty four hours in a day, eight of
its work, eight of its sleep, and eight of its
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fun and social. But the work part is called work
for a reason. Okay, we all have we all go
to a Christmas party. It's called you know, the Christmas
slash holiday partee. Work is not designed to always be
a good time. But Lane Johnson's history is short cut. Guy.
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You know, happy hour two hours early when there's a
lot of work to still get done. Guy, Hey, instead
of committing to a project or a game plan, who
let the dogs out? Mask? Guy zooe is? I mean,
first of all, the idea that you'd rather win one
super Bowl than five if you have to put in
more work is such a loser comment. In any business,
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it's called work. But Philadelphia fell into a trap, and
we predicted it. Even in their own division. The Cowboys
have five Super Bowls, The New York Giants have four
Super Bowls, Washington has three Super bowls. Philadelphia has one,
and they're suddenly lecturing everybody else in football on Hey,
this winning thing. Here's how it's done. Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
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Marginally briefly successful guy doesn't get a lecture Nick Saban
or Belichick on how to win it football, Lane Johnson,
your guy this week and your guy the previous week
is the one that shot through and a leverage and
opportunity and inertia for the other team. Min The Eagles
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got a real winner here. They got shortcut guy. Create
a dogmask. Guy. Work should be fun, guy, I mean
Chris Carter nailed it on first things First. It is
embarrassing when briefly successful guy suddenly lectures the NFL's greatest
dynasty on what winning is all about. We have more fun.
How much fun you have in now? That's what I
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want to ask, Lane Johnson. How much fun you haven't? Like?
You're not the best right tackling pro football? That offensive
line there was a dominant force. They're no dominant force. Nope. Again,
it's hard to win super bowls. Troy Aikman worked hard,
Tom Brady works hard. The great ones, Ray Lewis worked hard.
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It's not all fun. The thing that's truly fun in
football because it's the only sport where you practice six
times as much as you play. Basketball doesn't w that way.
Hockey didn't work that way, Baseball didn't work that way.
Football is the only sport where you practice six times
more than you play. And the one thing that's oh
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is fun even in a bad locker room, is winning.
And Lane Johnson took it upon himself dog mask guy
to lecture New England on the winning thing. Embarrassing, all right,
So let me defend Odell Beckham. Oh, people are going
crazy on Odell Beckham. And by the way, Odell Beckham
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just signed a massive contract. He is the face of
the franchise, not the quarterback. He is a superstar in
the NFL, And unlike the NBA and baseball, where contracts
are guaranteed, in that New York Giants locker room, there
are very few people that can say how they feel
and not get cut and not get demoted. There is
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a responsibility in professional football for the handful of players
who can say whatever they want and not get demoted.
To bring up the elephant in the room. So the
New York Giants Odell Beckham had an interview before the game,
and he said, regarding Eli Manning, I don't know. I
feel like he's not going to get out of the pocket.
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We know Eli's not running. Can he still throw it? Yeah?
But you know it's been pretty safe. You know it's
cool catching shallow stuff. But you know, I want to
go over the top someday. Is he wrong? Is that inaccurate?
Do you call him a terrible teammate? Did he say
I think we should demote him. It's the elephant in
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the room in New York City right now, the elephant
in the room. Every family's got an elephant in the room.
It is the responsibility of the outspoken, successful member of
a family to talk about the elephant at the room. Hey, Grandma,
no more driving. You're dangerous. Hire a driver. Somebody else
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drives for your grandma. Uncle Phil, those comments at Thanksgiving
are totally inappropriate. It's no time for politics, Dad, you're
drinking too much. Settle down. Somebody in every family has
to express an opinion that's uncomfortable. It's called the elephant
in the room. And by the way, the owner of
the New York Giants won't do it. They should have
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drafted a quarterback. They wouldn't. The GM of the Giants
could have had Sam Darnold, could have had Josh Allen
could have had Josh Rosen. He didn't. So nobody else
in the room wants to address the elephant in it,
which is Eli appears to be mostly a shot fighter,
so if Odell Beckham won't And by the way, he
did it respectfully, he just basically said things that are true, like,
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you know, he's not going to run. He's dealing with
underneath routes. He's not going to get out of the pocket.
We know he's not running. This is outrageous. No, that's
just telling Uncle Phil, Uncle Phil cool it. On the
Donald Trump comments Thanksgiving, it's not cool, Dad, you're drinking
too much. Grandma, you shouldn't be driving anymore. Somebody's got
to say that stuff. Somebody has to say that in
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every family, or the problems fester and nobody talks about them.
I mean, good Lord. The Giants keep giving Eli. They
spend a fortus none a left tackle, they draft a
running back, they sign another wide receiver. That how many
gifts can they give Eli? Manning new coach, check star
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running back, check left tackle, check, draft another offensive lineman, check,
get more receivers. Check. They're checking all the boxes and
it's still a bad offense, I mean they're over at
this point, they're over compensating for it. So I'm gonna defend. Remember,
football is unique. You can get cut Tom Brady could
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be cut tomorrow. It'd be a cap hit, but you
could cut him. You can't cut Aaron Judge. You're not
gonna cut Bryce Harper. You're not gonna cut Staph Curry. So,
in a sport where very few players, I mean a
handful of players have real power, have real leverage, or
a face of a franchise, Odell Beckham talked about something
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that made everybody, oh a little uncomfortable, and he didn't
regret it after the game, Like we don't. We don't.
If we're not all on the same page, if it's
not authentic and real and we can all understand each other,
then there's gonna always be miscommunication. I'm just excited about
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the way we pulled together. Like I said, we came
up short, but we fought today. I haven't felt any
more closer than I have in the last twenty four hours.
And like I said, if it took that to bring
us together, I could take that. At the end, they
came out with the win, but I'm proud of where
we stand. Even though we're wanting four, this game today
is going to be monumental for our season in my eyes. Okay,
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if the those comments were so disruptive, and I watched
every snap of this game, it was one of the
craziest games in the NFL this season. It was a
weird game. But if they were so disruptive, why did
the Giants finally play well? Some of you were listening
to me, some of you were watching. There's stuff happening
in your family. If you're the one that's the strongest,
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the safest, the smartest, you owe your family to bring
it up. Odell Beckham Junior, somebody had to talk about
Eli Manning the elephant in the room. Be sure to
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iHeartRadio app. We always tend to say that coaches, these
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coaches are go for it, gutty guys, and these guys
are conservative. All football coaches are conservative. They are They
all vote almost all of them vote conservative. They're conservative guys.
The history of football. You think Bill Belichick's a big
go for it guy. Yeah, when Tom Brady became great
and he already had two Super Bowl trophies. Bill suddenly
got much more courage because he had job security. Coaches
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are all conservative. When the two point conversion was offered
several years ago, coaches didn't want it. Coaches didn't want
the two boy in conversion, even though it was good
for football. Why because it would put the onus on them.
They would lose games going for it. Coaches are all conservative.
Coaches don't want to go for it on fourth down now. Situationally,
if you have the great running back Todd Gurley, if
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you have the great offensive line rams and you're on
the road and you've been playing four hours, but Jason
Garrett's getting crushed because he didn't go for it. Now,
I would have gone for it, but I understand what
he's thinking. Our offensive lines is not as good as
they should be. Houston has got much better defensive personnel
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right now out front than we do. And by the way,
if I lose this thing on national TV, now, I
would have gone for it because I thought Dallas got outplayed.
I thought the field position was a go for it
field position, and I think when you're on the road
for four hours, you're into overtime. You got to kind
of create an identity. And the one knock I have
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on Dallas this year, they don't have any identity, and
this was a chance to be Hey, this is our identity.
We're gonna be a go for it team. Offensively, We're
not going to be the most clever or the most intuitive,
but we're gonna be a go for it team. But
let me just tell you something. Everybody this morning saying,
look at Sean McVay. Look at Sean McVay. Okay, now
think about this. Sean McVay has Todd Gurley, a great quarterback,
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a tremendous offensive line, the best offense in football, and
he had to be talked into it. He sent his
punter out initially, and Pete Carroll called the time out,
thought about it, went okay, an inch all sad. My
guys back in so even clever, crazy, wild, Sean McVay,
boy genius, Sean McVay. Initially he was gonna punt. They
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all want to punt. They didn't want the two point conversion.
They don't like it. Sean mcvay's the he's the riverboat gambler,
and he didn't want to go for it with Todd
Gurley and Sean McVay and mcgared Goff, and then he
didn't want to go for it, and then there's a
time out and he can think about it, and he's like, Yeah,
let's just go for it. So we're gonna crush Jason Garrett.
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And I would have gone for it too. You were outplayed,
you were on the road, you're four hours in. I
think you need to send a message. You don't have
an identity. I would have gone for to five Dallas.
But this idea that Garrett's clueless and mcvayh's a gambler,
it's not true. Bill Belichick once he had a couple
of trophies and he had job security. They don't fire
left tackles. They don't fire centers, they don't fire running backs,
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they don't fire they fire coaches and coaches. If you
look at the history of this league, they're all guys
that would prefer to not go for it, even the
riverboat gamblers, even the crazy guys, they'd rather not go
for it because that's how you get fired. In this league,
going for it and failing is very simple for media
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and fans to point to and go that's the reason,
because we don't look at we don't look at game film.
It's a very sophisticated sport of media. Could never even
drop up one football play. But the easiest thing for
a guy like me to go right there, fire him
right there is situational fourth down. You go forward it
to dumb play. And by the way, Doug Peterson got
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a book deal because of his crazy play on a
fourth down and goal. It's one of those plays and
it's high er low, home runner, strikeout, and most coaches
don't want to ever go for it. So I'm not
going to crush Jason Garrett even though I would have,
and I'm not going to elevate Sean mcvade of the
greatest coach of all time because he did because he
had to be talked into it. Here was Jerry Jones,
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Cowboys owner. He didn't like what Jason Garrett did. We
were being outplayed there, not out of effort, but we
just were being outplayed. And it's tim for risk that
I agree with Jerry's belief is mine. When you're getting
out played, you're on the road, you really should have
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lost this thing, and you have a chance to do it,
you go for it. You know, it's just like anything
else in life. If you know, if your vacation's been crap,
it's rained the whole time, and you're like, oh, should
we spend money on the helicopter tour, Well, the vacation's
been crap anyway, I want to just salvage the vacation
and spend a little extra money and do something really
fun for the kids. Like this game. Dallas got out played.
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They should have lost that game earlier. So Dallas. If
I'm the coach the Cowboys, I'm like, you know what, man,
four hours on the road. I got a bunch of alpha's.
I got to create some inertion energy here. I'm gonna
go for it. But don't make Garrett into a bomb
and Sean mcvah into a genius this morning. None of
these guys, really, really deep down in their soul, are
risk takers. They're really not. They're really not. Be sure
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to catch live editions of the Herd week dayson noon
Easter not a Empacific. When you get older, I would not,
of course ask Joy's age. I'm, you know, in my fifties,
and when you look back at life, there are certain
things that are absolutes. They call them truisms. They're absolutely
true and they'll never change. Like peanut butter and jelly
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sandwiches will always taste good to me. I don't come.
I don't care if they invent eight different kinds of kale.
I'll always like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich always
the rest of my life. And one of the things
that I've noticed at and I don't think at twenty
years old, no matter how smart you are, you don't
have enough life experience to look back and go, wow,
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this is true. You could read all the books you want,
you got to live it. One of the things I've
come to terms with, and this is just the way
human beings are. You can separate people into two groups.
Those people change is really hard. They can't change, they
don't like change, they fear change. And then there's another.
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And by the way, it's not just education levels. Some
people grow up in traditional families. They went to church.
It's mom and dad. They don't like change, they don't
like new They're gonna live where they grew up and
they're not gonna move. My sisters more like that. I'm
less like that. Then there's the other people that change
is inevitable. I kind of like change. I kind of
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like moving. I kind of like being forced to do
different stuff. I mean my whole life. I've seen this.
I see it in politics, I see it in sports,
I see it in families. I see it in life.
People that struggle would change, they don't even like to
eat bring it up. They'll complain about it. And people
that you know change is inevitable, let's embrace it. So
all weekend Look, Clay Matthews, I mean my whole life,
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I've been hitting this way. I can't change my whole life.
This is how it hit a quarterback guy, and the
media freaks out. It's killing the game. I can't believe it.
Did you watch football this weekend? All weekend long in
the NFL, all weekend long in the NFL Detroit against
Aaron Rodgers twice. Did you watch the Lions twice? They
went for the strip sack on Aaron Rodgers. Watch this
strip sack? Oh you mean they were coached all weekend
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long Aaron Rodgers. The Lions were coached to not squish him,
to not land on him, to evolve and adapt to
the rules. Von Miller Khalil Mack you're I watched all
weekend long, and all I saw was this. Aaron Donald
of the La Rams is grabbing quarterbacks, watch this and
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throwing them down. He didn't do that two and three
years ago. Aaron Donald now new rule. I'll grab twirl
you down. The elite players, just like the elite people
in life, are willing the change. Be stuck in the mud.
Live one way, never adapt. I mean this idea that
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you can't hit quarterbacks. Did you watch the Cowboys Texans
game last night? Those quarterbacks got the snot hit out
of him. I mean, Dak got pounded, Deshaun Watson got
bounded off. This idea that you can no longer hit quarterbacks.
Excuse me? Did you watch the Texans and Cowboys play
last night? Those quarterbacks took a pounding for four hours. Folks,
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look at America. The two hottest companies in America are
Netflix and Amazon, and both radically mid stream change their game.
Amazon just sold Bucks Netflix DVDs halfway through the game. Poula, Wow,
we gotta survive. We gotta change the way we do business.
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There's other opportunities here. So this idea. Whenever I hear people,
I mean, you just claim Matthews. This is it's just
all the media. It's just killing the game. Just like pilots.
Every year they add something to the cockpit and they
force you at Delta Airlines, they force you at Southwest Airlines,
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they force you at British Airlines to get a new manual,
memorize that and learn the new stuff. And it was
never more clear than in the Green Bay Detroit game.
Very smart plays. By the way, not only are those
guys stripping the ball. I mean the first guy especially,
they are going I mean they Eron in one hand
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and the ball. Look at this right here. I mean,
and by the way, he even flips off of Aaron.
He doesn't want to land on Eron. He hits the
ball and then he flips off Eron. I meant, if
you ask most quarterbacks, they'd rather take the sack than
have a fumble. Oh god, yes, but this is what's
going there's what's going to hand. By the way, it's
all the top guy. It's all the all the top
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guys in the industry of the NFL are like, yeah,
this is that what we gotta do it now? I mean,
Jadeveon clown, he's not he's grabbing you with one hand,
he's flipping you and he's going for the ball. So
you know, folks, homework doesn't stop in high school. You're
gonna have to do homework the rest of your life.
You're gonna have to come home from work and be like, oh,
I gotta change. We have a new manual, we have
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another meeting, we got another product. We gotta like. That's
that's life. Can I just say this, um speaking a
Green Bay, is that I know everybody is going to
beat up on Mason Crosby. And I don't like Kickers either,
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I really do. I have a bumper sticker on my car.
Don't like Kickers. They're a headache, They're head cases. You
can't depend on them. But I just want to throw this.
This is kind of crazy. This is kind of crazy.
You do get that they trailed twenty four nothing and
Aaron Rodgers wasn't any good in the first half, and
so when Aaron Rodgers has all these great stats in
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the second half. In the first half, his passer rating
was seventy two, he lost two fumbles, they both led
to scores. He passed for one hundred and forty yards,
and his completion percentage was under fifty percent those fumbles
led to ten points. That second half was garbage stats.
They were out of the game. So you know, Aaron Rodgers,
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as Greg ko Sells said last week on our show,
Aaron's hard to coach. Aaron's an improviser. Aaron's an ad libber.
It's any other thing about Aaron Aaron. I'm watching. You
know the guys that take shots in this league. Russell
Wilson takes a lot of shots, a lot of shots.
He runs around. Deshaun Watson takes a lot of shots.
He runs around. Aaron Rodgers takes too many hits. He
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takes too many hits. Those are on Aaron Rodgers. Well,
it's impossible to block for someone that's running around in certas.
That's tripe. But you know who doesn't take hits that
Tom Brady doesn't take hits. Drew Brees doesn't take hits.
I see a lot of guys in the NFL. They
don't take hits. Aaron's been in this league ten years.
Aaron takes hits a lot. He ad libs a lot.
He wasn't good in the first half. He hasn't been
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good this year a lot. It's not all on the kicker.
I mean Aaron didn't play well yesterday. They got into
a huge hole, and in the second half he piles
up garbage stats. It's not old with somebody else's faults.
Like Greg ko Sell came on our show. He's even
hard guy on film. To get your arms around. Rogers
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for me is a very, very difficult evaluation because he's
in rhythm when he's moving and out of rhythm when
he's playing from the pocket, which is the exact opposite
of most quarterbacks. He's more jazz musician than classical pianist.
He is now going to be thirty five. He's had
multiple surgeries. He's not very big. He takes a lot
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of hits. Drew Brees does not get hit like this.
Tom Brady does not get hit like this. Now yesterday
Matt Ryan got hit like this, but Matt Ryan generally
doesn't get hit like this. So you know, I like
Andrew Luck, but Andrew Luck gets hit a lot. Because
Andrew Luck held onto the ball too long. Aaron Rodgers
holds onto the ball too long. It's not olways somebody
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else's fault. I'm watching Aaron yesterday. He's bad in the
first half, missed open receivers. They're down twenty four. Nothing
that changes the complexity of the entire game. You're going
at halftime. It's a different football game. Now you have
but three percent chance to win one more Herd. The
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or on demand whenever you like. Every Monday, we do
it at this time, every single Monday. We do it.
In fact, it's gotten so popular. We do it during
the course of the year. Where Colin was right, where
Colin was wrong. So let's not waste any time. Let's
hit it where Colin was right. Listen, are blazing five
right now, I'm hitting sixty five percent on the year.
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That is, we're on fire. And it's not just that
we're winning. We picked underdogs. We picked Arizona as an
underdog to go on the road and win. We picked
the Jets over Denver, Sam Darnod, we picked the Vikings
over the Philadelphia Eagles. By the way, I've got Monday night,
I've got Washington as an underdog beating New Orleans tonight.
So I think the thing that makes me proudest not
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only that We've had four to five winning weeks, but
these games are very close. There's a lot of offense translate,
and that means what they call in the business backdoor covers,
where a team gets outplayed but they score late touchdown
when touchdowns are easier, take underdogs to cover. That's been
my theory and we've been right where Colin was row
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for years. I have defended Jason Garrett of the Dallas Cowboys.
He's not the most creative coach, but I thought yesterday
was a moment, and I thought he failed. The moment
is that he's gotta know, outplayed for three and a
half hours on the road with a struggling offense, this
team has no identity and Jason Garrett and I don't
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like to crush coaches on game calling. It's hard, they've
looked at film. But when you're on the road and
you've been outplayed and you can steal a double, you
gotta know that is a moment and you have to
go for it. And I gotta take one for the
team here. I was wrong. I've been so favorable toward him,
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and I thought in that moment he kind of butchered it.
Where Colin was so right, it's getting annoyed. I think
my greatest prediction in the history of this show happened
this weekend. So all these rookie quarterbacks, three of the
four were underdogs, and the Jets was a pick him
and I said on Friday, I think the rookie quarterbacks
are gonna go four and oh because I think if
you look at the games, I said Sam Darnold Denver
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on a short week, Jets played the worst game they
played in years. Watch them be buttoned up tight they did.
I said, watch Josh Rose and nobody watched him the
previous week because we were watching Baker Mayfield. Watch him
come out and be great. I said, watch Baker Mayfield.
They've got weapons, He's shown he can play. Baltimore's coming
off an emotional win, and what do you know, all
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the rookie quarterbacks won't even Josh Allen, who wasn't great.
But I'll tell you this about Josh Allen. That kid
can run. He's a big kid that can move around
and make throws. Maybe run too much, but I said
on a Friday, even though they're underdogs, this is gonna
be the weekend of the rookie quarterbacks coming out and
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all kicking major butt. Gotta be honest with you, that's
the greatest rite in the history of the show. Where
Colin was wrong. Yeah, Connor McGregor met his mismatch from hell.
This was not really competitive. Now, Connor's always one of
those guys that doesn't look like he trains as much
as everybody else. But I thought about the second round.
He looked ghassed. But this was really about fights. Styles
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make fights. This was a terrible style. Dana White had
never given Connor McGregor this kind of fighter, and now
we know why. He just looked awkward. He lost two fights.
He lost the fight in the ring and then when
the fight was over, and then the melee he lost
that one too. This was a bad night. I mean,
you were right trying to tell you. Yeah, could be.
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I'm not gonna feed my kids for a couple of
days because I bet a fortune on this and I
went down in flames. Where Colin was right. Did I
tell you or did I tell you that puff your chess?
Philadelphia would come back down to Earth. I thought they'd
still be a good team. But when Lane Johnson said
I'd rather have fun and win us super Bowl than
be miserable and win five. That is an awful, embarrassing
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comment for an athlete. This is about winning. This is
not like society where you have social nets for those
who fail, people who lose or losers, people who win
or winners. It's not about having a good time. It's
about winning games and in the process creating relationships and
environments that we all flourish. But it's hard. Football players
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work hard, they get hit, they get hurt. There's no
guaranteed contract. This is a sport for men. It's a
hard sport. So if you want to be get to
work and screw off and do a dog mask, No
that Jonathan Ogden and Walter Jones and Ray Lewis and
Brady it's hard work. And we sleep for eight hours.
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We have fun with our families for eight hours, and
we work. And there's a reason it's called work, and
there's a reason it's called a holiday party. Football is
the hardest of all sports. And Lane Johnson we predicted
it where Colin was raw. I have supported Hugh Jackson forever,
even last year. But when they went to overtime and
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he didn't know, did you see him put his hand
up here? He said two seconds left. Hey, hold on,
hold on, there's a moment here. I don't think Hugh
Jackson quite knows. He doesn't quite know. If we have
the picture of it. I think he doesn't know overtime's over.
I don't think he knows it's over. He's waving his
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players back off the field and the game's over. Listen.
I get players, especially young players, not knowing every overtime rule.
I get that. I'm not saying everybody every official has
to be Mike Pereira, but a head coach's job isn't
all the overtime stuff. And I've supported Hugh Jackson. I
supported him. I said he deserved to keep his job
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and he went over sixteen. But you got to know
the rules, Hugh. The game was over, especially in Cleveland,
when you got to know the rules when the game's over,
because you don't win when many of those when it's over.
Where Colin was right, Listen. We didn't have the Packers
last week in our top ten and got a lot
of pushback, and I said, folks, they don't have a
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running game. They're leading rusher yesterday. I had forty yards yesterday.
It was their kicking game. They got into a whole
twenty four nothing. I can be critical of Aaron Rodgers,
but I don't know when I look at this team,
I don't see Baltimore's talent. I don't see Pittsburgh's talent.
I don't see New Orleans talent. I don't see the
Rams talent. I don't see the Houston Texans talent. I
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don't see it. When I look at Green Bay, I
just do not see dynamic offensive, defensive pass rusher running plays.
So I'll say it again, I don't think they're a
top ten team in the NFL. And frankly, I thought
Aaron Rodgers had a bad first half. He didn't look
like a top ten quarterback in the first half yesterday
where Colin was wrong. Listen, I had Baltimore as my
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number one, number two team in the league, and yesterday
Joe Flacco went back to Joe Flacco. I got a question,
Joe Flacco six five, How does he have that many
passes batted down? I can't Colt McCoy didn't have that
many passes badded down. I can't figure it out. They
had a red zone pick, they didn't have a touchdown
all day, and frankly, they got too many weapons, and
they have a nice running back. This team has too
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many weapons to not score a touchdown. And Cleveland's got
all sorts of alpha's, they got all sorts of dudes.
But Joe Flacco with that, those tight ends and those
receivers and that back and that coaching staff, there's been
a lot of continuity here in Baltimore, a lot of continuity.
You can't go. You can't give me yesterday and I
defended Joe Flacco and I said he was gonna have
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a big year. And I'm not taking anything away from Baker.
He'd flew for a lot of yards. But that was
everybody's been telling me for three weeks. I'm crazy on
Joe Flacco. Love, you were right. I was wrong where
Colin was right. I said I didn't like the Gruden thing.
They're one and four. Derek Carr is struggling, and Derek
Carr's a heck of a player, but he's got sevent
tds and eight picks under John Bruden. Marshawn Lynch is
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a good back, Doug Martin's a good back. The old
line's above average. Jared Cook's a good tight end, Amari
Cooper can catch Matabus, Bryant's good deep threat. Jordy Nelson
can still play. I don't want to hear excuses. I
don't want to hear excuses. Two years ago Derek Carr
was an MVP candidate. Now he looks like he's lost confidence.
And by the way, the Raiders are last in sacks.
They gave up Khalil Mack, which I hated. I'm not
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an expert here, but there when you have that kind
of offensive personnel and you've got Derek Carr, and you
got that tight end and two backs and three wide
receivers and that offensive line, I don't want to hear.
I don't want to hear about Derek Carr. Sevent TDS
eight picks right now. The Gruden thing, I look right
where Colin was wrong. I had at Land in the
Super Bowl. Yeah, I kind of whipped on that now,
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some of its injuries, but they did solve their red
zone problems. And there's so much about this team and
this staff I like. But in the end, yesterday was classic.
They just got bullied. They got bullied at the line
of scrimmage. And this is the thing that I always
struggle with Atlanta, and I just I do this all
the time, that football is about moments and it's about toughness,
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and you can't teach a lot of that toughness and
a lot of those moments. Gosh, I always feel like
Atlanta in those moments gets bullied, gets pushed around and
doesn't deliver, and I can't put my arms around it.
But I just I went all in on him this year,
and how many times in the moment. I mean, yesterday
wasn't even competitive. Even those were two reeling teams. One
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bowler used to be a friend Aaron Rodgers probably is,
but wouldn't admit it. Okay, Greg Jennings, so listen, it's
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easy to blame the kicker. I didn't think Aaron was
very good for the first hour and a half. I
didn't think he hadn't the end. Can we blame Aaron
a little bit for this? We can absolutely, of course.
For me, if I look at it from percentages, I
would put sixty percent of it on Mason Crosby because
he just he can't do that first game of his career. Yes,
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and he knows that, um, but forty percent of it.
I put it on Aaron Rodgers. I mean, you you
have the pressor you talk about the lack of offensive
play calling and creativity and all of these things. Uh
so you create a spotlight even more of a microscope
on yourself and you come out and you have the
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start that you had. Now, mind you, they've they've struggled
in ford Field the last two years. But Aaron, you can't.
You can't do that. And it's not so much what
his numbers ended up, because he did he do enough
for them to win? He did, That's not what I'm
most concerned about. For me, what stood out was his
body language, his demeanor, his lack of involvement with the
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guys during the game. Meaning he had a look on
him like he was disgusted, but it was kind of
that woe is here we go again. There was one
image that they shown during the broadcast of the game
where he went to the sideline. He put his hands
across his lap, He's sitting there. They showed his receivers
there on another bench, putting their looking as lost as
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little puppy dogs as well. There's no fire, there's no
if we have to operate, if we have to execute
these plays, if this is all we have, then guys,
let's make it happen. Let's make it work. When I
see Drew Brees, when I see Tom Brady, yea, they
get fired up because it's it's no longer in the
coach's hands. This is on us now, like, and you
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set the tone. You being Aaron Rodgers, you set the tone.
And that's what I did not like. Did he play eventually? Play? Well? Yeah.
By the way, I heard this years ago by a coach.
He said, Jay Cutler and Aaron Rodgers. There's some similarities
here that they kind of go off by themselves. They
grabbed their thing, they do their thing. They're kind of
in their own space. The difference is Aaron's an unbelievable
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talent and Jay Cutler wasn't as good a player. But
this is very rare for a player like you to
talk about this. Quarterbacks are more than arm and feet.
It's messaging, it's body language. Aaron can be kind of passive, aggressive,
he can be I would say, disengaged. He can't. And
I know guys who have played with him, not you,
that have said he can be moody. He gets into
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his own space. It was evident in the first half
and when you look at like we talked about him
when he made the comments early in the season. I
think it was training camp about or maybe early in
the season when he talked about their practices and how
they were underperforming. But coming into this game, I had
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an issue with him talking about the way practice went.
And we'll get into Odell eventually, but Aaron Rodgers that
he was asked about how was practiced this week, it
could have been better, Like isn't great, you know with
the young receivers kind of calling out the end and
this is all you have to go in the game with.
You don't have Randall Cobb, you don't have your guy,
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you don't have your nucleus of guys that you're typically
go into a game with. So if I was going
into a game with a backup quarterback, that would not
be what I'm saying. I would be saying, oh, we
we have all the faith in Matt Flynn in the world.
We will be just fine. We're good. He advertised, yes,
and so now all of a sudden, it's we go
into this game with this expectation of these young guys
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not pulling it through for him, when it was him
that came out flat. It was him that didn't set
the tone with the start of the game the way
that they wanted to. So I can't give him a
pass for that. Speaking of setting the tone, O b
J set the tone came out before the game in
an interview, was critical of Eli Manning. Not harsh, just honest,
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elephant in the room for one of the few times
I defended him. Your takeaway, I did defend him. You
did that, and I think most receivers are icing and
crazy people. Yeah, yeah, you don't have to go there.
I'm proud of you for that. I'm proud of you
for defending him. He could have said a lot more.
And I listened to I listened to Trent, and you know,
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we are taught to be politically correct and go into
these situations with a certain way. But there comes a
point in time in your career when you're you're just
tired of being fake and phone, You're tired of just
saying what everyone wants you to say. Totally get it.
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You're tired of it because it doesn't provide you with
anything antively, you don't get the answers with it. So
it's you get you get asked the question, and it's
up to you to then say, you know what, I'm
gonna be as honest as I can be without really
stirring the pot. We want we want all you athletes
to be leaders. Yes, leaders saying comfortable things, and he
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said an uncomfortable thing. That's what Lee ship is and
all this, all these headlines about should do the Giants regret?
But no, because before they paid them, everything was predicated on, well,
he's gonna have all these antics after his celebrations, sideline
and penalties and this, and that he hasn't done anything
but produced this year. Then the first thing that he says,
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it's it's really to motivate or to really address what
everybody knows. Is there Ben McAdoo, Benches, Eli Manning, he's done,
get rid of football, unlike basketball or baseball, no guaranteed contracts.
There's about three guys in every locker room that can
say that, and he's and if you're one of them,
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do you have a responsible You'll have to do it
because everybody in the locker room is looking at you like,
Ohdell Man, he's gonna say something like that. Is that
is locker room code. Guys in the locker room know that. Okay,
if I'm not the one that coach will listen to you,
are you have to be the one that, by the way,
Dallas Jason Garrett two minutes defend him. Jason Garrett made
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the right decision. He made the right decision. He went
with who he trust in that moment. Their defense was
playing excellent. They had stopped him in the red zone
and when you look at their offense, twenty rushes fifty
four yards, averaging two point seven yards to carry the
play before they lose a half a yard. Again, I'm
listening to you and Vic talking. Vick's like, oh yeah,
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we gotta go for a couple of dudes. I told
I told vick Man No, Man, absolutely not, because he
said the offensive line feels like, oh, you don't believe it. No,
I don't believe in you right now, and that should
that should fire you up, that should tick you off
to where the next time, we're not in the situation
because you did get us the one yard on Thursday,
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you would have setten the punter out absolutely because my defense,
that's who I trust right now. If if we're watching
the Warriors and Clayton Clay Thomas, Clay Thompson is has
the hot hand with the game on the line. Yeah,
we have Durant, we have staff, we have all these
other guys. But Steve Kerr is gonna try to find
a way to get Clay the ball because he's had
the hot hand. You don't go away from that. You
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go with what's gotten you there. By the way, I
gotta be honest. A minute and a half left, I
think what's happening to Philadelphia is funny. Hey, heyte New England,
Oh my, here we get so good. It is so
good right now, New England, let me tell you how
to win games in your face, dog mask guy Lane Johnson.
Let me let me let me tell you where I
could stand up here. I could come over there and
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just what kick you out of the New England will
tell you people, who are you? Wait till five weeks saying,
and he'd Lane Johnson gives up a strip sackle on
Carson Wentz and all of a sudden it's Lane Johnson. Yeah,
it's unfortunate timing for Lane Johnson. I mean unfortunate timing
we did we talk about in Week one. No, we
pick and choose the third defending Lane Johnson, I'm offending.
(41:54):
I'm defending the Philadelphia Eagles because the season is not over.
They lost to a minutes at the Vikings, team that
gave up over five hundred yards of offense the last Thursday.
They got embarrassed when they went to Philly last year
in the playoffs. Of course they're gonna come out like this.
And then you got a quarterback that is your guy
who's played this is his third game back. He hasn't
(42:16):
had an entire offseason or training camp to really develop
the report that he has developed in the meeting rooms,
to put in action physically that matters. He needs that time.
I'm not concerned about the Philadelphia Eagles and this whole
hangover stuff. I don't want to hear that because we
went fifteen to one. I keep saying this, there's no
such thing as a playngover. The Cleveland Browns, Do they
(42:37):
have a hangover of being the worst team in the league. No,
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