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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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I'm going tomorrow to watch Texas Oklahoma in the afternoon
in downtown LA at a place called Cosm, which is amazing.
But then then tomorrow night the al and Buckeyes. Tonight
Dodgers Padres j Mac. That's the biggest. It feels like
the biggest West Coast baseball game in a long time.
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I know it's divisional round, but it feels so big.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Tonight, massive baseball game, huge football weekend by the way,
thanks for the invite to watch that football game this weekend.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I'm very excited to well you, Oh wait.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You didn't invite me.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's right, maybe next time. Okay, one hour blazing five.
So the Niners win again and kind of comfortably got
a little tight in the end, but they were the
better team. So Seattle right now is a team that
currently doesn't do a lot well. They have a great
running back, they can't run the ball. They have a
defensive head coach but can't really stop many teams. And
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they have a veteran quarterback, Gino Smith, who makes rookie
quarterback mistakes. San Francisrancisco does a lot of things very
very well, but they are judged differently. They scored thirty
six points last night. I walk into the staff meeting
this morning, It's like, well, I mean, Deebo Blue, Yeah,
there's a blown coverage. I mean that fourth quarter picked
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by Gino got him off the hook. Well, let's be honest.
They have a higher standard than almost everybody in the league,
not name the Kansas City Chiefs. And you can feel
that pressure weekly on Kyle Shanahan and on Brock Purty
and on Bosa. You can feel the pressure with San
Francisco because, unlike the Chiefs, they're the great team in
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the league the last five years. They're the only one
that doesn't have a trophy. Don't call Buffalo great, maybe Baltimore,
but there's a pressure when you are great and you
can't win the major on the tennis or the golf circuit.
So they hold themselves to high standards. There are a
lot of things they do well because Kyle Shanahan maybe
the top scheme guy in the league. Once again, they
got a big first half lead. If you lead in
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the NFL in the first quarter, you win sixty percent
of your games. In San Francisco, almost Owa's leads games,
and almost Owa's is playing downhill. That's a big advantage
when you have Bosa on the defensive line pursuing your quarterback.
They also San Francisco scores uniquely. Most teams in the
league don't. Last night, a fullback has a touchdown. Last
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week they blocked the kick for a touchdown. They score uniquely.
They also take the ball away two picks last night
of fumble recovery. Three turnovers should have had four got
butchered by the referees. So they're top three in the
league in taking the ball away. That's what championship teams do.
They also lead the NFL in time of possession. How
are you gonna beat Lamar Jackson, How are you gonna
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beat Patrick Mahomes or a Josh Allen or a Jared Goff.
Have them sit on the bench and watch the game.
But it does feel when San Francisco wins, and I
felt this last night, it's a little unsatisfying. They are
the great team in the league. Maybe Baltimore is the
other that doesn't have a trophy because Kansas City and
Mahomes and Reeder hoggin all of them, and so even
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when they win, it's Geno Smith. Seahawks blew of coverage.
They went on the road against the team I believe
Seattle was called the dark horse team in the league
by a lot of people, not me, but a lot
of people before the season. They scored thirty six points
without Christian McCaffrey in one of the toughest NFL environments.
Well calling the red zone offense of the Niners. Well,
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when Christian McCaffrey returns, my guess that will improve. It
was number one last year. It will return to an
elite red zone offense. Well, Colin, yeah, a Brock Purty
is just okay, Well, I watched last night. He's better
than Geno Smith. And Gino Smith has made back to
back Pro Bowls. So the Niners win, they win comfortably
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on the road. They create turnovers, they dominate time of possession,
and it feels unsatisfying. But my takeaway is this is
how Kansas City wins every week. Wouldn't Cincinnati Joe Burrow
and the Bengals just be satisfied with the w You
go on the road, you win games. I want to
hear about blow and cover. I don't want to hear
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about Geno Smith. Gino Smith is a very accurate throw
over the football. You know what he is against? The
Niners own five and not that accurate, and those a
lot of picks. So because San Francisco is held Baltimore
similarly to a standard, because we think, well, Kansas City's
a great team, but they have trophies. Niners and Ravens
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are the one where like, where are the trophies? I
think they're coming, especially for Baltimore. Here's brought Purty after.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
For us, our standard is high here and so I
think a lot of us will go to all right,
like we could have done this or that and be
better here. But I think at the end of the day, man,
it's a team sport, and so to go four quarters
with all these different kinds of emotions and parts of
the game, and to be able to rally together and
defense get a turnover and then us score touching on
at the end, and it's just that's team football.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
All right.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
The Yankees Garrett Cole, that's why you paid for him.
The Yankees are in the American League Championship Series. But
over the last five, six, seven years, the Yankees feel different.
They're still good, they mostly make the playoffs. They have
two or three superstars.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
It's that.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
But the Dodgers have more money. The Mets now because
of their owner, have more money, and in my opinion,
the Potterys have more talent. The Yankees have Soto, They're
not gonna They're not gonna sign him. He's gonna go
somewhere else. They have Aaron Judge, they have Garrett Cole.
But that's the minimum if you want to win the
World Series. Today, they're not intimidating. They have a new stadium,
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not as intimidating in fact, I would argue in the playoffs,
what's led the Yankees their bullpen. I mean nothing against
Mariano Rivera did that, but they had so many other elements.
They were intimidating the old Yankees in the big moments,
the big crisis moments. They just they created fear and
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they don't anymore. I mean an example is, this team's
built on power. With Stanton and Judge soda, they're built
on power. The Milwaukee Brewers have more home runs in
the postseason. They haven't played in a week. The Podrays
have eleven home runs they're still playing. Yankees have three.
And they're built on power. So they can beat you,
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but they don't overwhelm you and they don't intimidate you.
And that's what we're used to. And by the way,
when Garrett Cole's on the mound and Aaron Judge is
in his zone, they beat you a lot. But I
mean beating Kansas City, let's be honest about this, Well,
it was in Kansas City. Kansas City has lost I
think it's eight straight home games. They haven't won in
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Kansas City since early September. And now they're season's over.
So the last time and this is the point. The
last time the Yankees won a World Series, it was
in two thousand and nine. I was on the East Coast,
I was going to games, I was watching the Yankees
on television, the y S networker listening on radio in
my car virtually every day. And at that time, they
not only led Major League Baseball in salary, they pretty
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much got whoever they wanted in the offseason, and second
place was I think forty or fifty million dollars behind
them because the YES network was such a cable advantage.
Today they're just another another passenger and the VIP lounge
before takeoff. The Dodgers ownership group has more money. I mean,
the Dodgers spend more money in the Yankees. The difference
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is the Dodgers push all theirs down the road. But
the Dodgers spent a billion dollars this offseason. They just
push it all down the road. They fudge the numbers,
the podres, they operate like the Boston Red Sox. They
got stars everywhere. The Mets they have Steve Cohen. They're
going nowhere. They will outspend the Yankees going forward. My
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guess on a regular basis, So Major League baseball's upper echelon.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It used to be like the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Occasionally the Red Sox would knock them off, but it
was I mean almost Boston feel like a small market
team the Delta Lounge. Now they're just one of the
VIP members. Everybody's getting in the Podrays are in it,
the Mets are in it, the Yankees are in it,
the Dodgers are in it, and they're in the Alcs.
But it doesn't feel the same. And here's the manager,
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Aaron Boone.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
After hopefully is not the end of the road for us,
and we expect more. But you know, you got to
savor these these times too, because you know, to get
down to the final four here. And I feel like
be in good shape from a team standpoint, I feel
like we're playing well. I feel like we're pretty well rounded.
We're not perfect, you know, by any means, but I'll
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take our chances.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
They're well rounded, with a great bullpen. They're a good
team mostly gets in the playoffs. Doesn't feel the same.
Jmack blazing five in one hour. I believe Jmack, this
is the best weekend of football this year. Between Texas, Oklahoma,
Penn State, USC Ohio State Oregon and ug excellent, excellent
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NFL Sunday, and then on Monday Aaron Rodgers it is
his franchise now hosting the Buffalo Bills and desperate Josh
Allen for first place in the AFC East. So not
only do we get the best baseball game potentially of
the season, Mets would argue Tonight Dodgers Podres Tomorrow is
easily until the college football playoff, the most stacked weekend.
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You've been talking about this for six weeks. This is
the weekend for college football. And then we get a
great Sunday Cowboys Lions on Fox. I'll talk about that
in a second, and then Monday night off the firing.
So Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, this weekend is going to
be insane for sports fans.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
This is the first weekend of the season. I have
bet on more college football games than NFL. NFL is
a tough slate this week, and go forget Jayden versus
Lamar is a fun matchup on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Best four game stretch, four day stretch starting tonight, pod
Raised Dodgers, best four day stretch of this year.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
I'll argue it.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That first weekend of college college basketball, and I know
you don't love it.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I know you you give.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Me Xavier Butler. I'm blue to the TV.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Hey, Creighton against Nebraska in that Midwest rivalry.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I'm going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Coming up next this Sunday will be the beginning of
the oil leak with the Dallas Cowboys. Starting this Sunday,
I'll explain that.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Coming up.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
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Speaker 4 (11:47):
I always have a rule on the show, New Information,
New Opinion. I don't.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I don't get embedded in stuff New Information, New Opinion.
I just had to eliminate one of my picks. I
had the Giant plus three and a half.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It's out.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Malik Neighbors is out. Cincinnati's gonna score some points, and
you gotta score points. I thought Molik Neighbors I was
gonna do a DraftKings thing. I thought Malik was gonna
have a really, really, really.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Big game night for the Giants. He's out. I don't.
It's not a good bet anymore. They don't have the
firepower to match up.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Cincinnati's gonna score some points and New York I thought
was gonna score more points, but I took that one out,
so I got four, not five, New information, new opinion.
Here's our blazing five.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Let's blaze it up, fired it up, It's Collins blazon
Fuck Cardinals, ad Packer.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I really like green Bay minus five and a half.
Romeo Dobbs, Christian Watson returning, so they're getting healthy. They
lead the NFL in big plays, and a couple of
their big play guys are back. Jordan Love multiple touchdown
passes in seven straight games, tied for the longest streak
believe it or not in the NFL. Listen, the Cardinals
get off the bad starts. They've trailed by at least
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ten plus point at halftime in three straight games, and
their third down defense is horrible.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I love Arizona's offense, but they're gonna trail and they're
gonna struggle to keep Green Bay off the field. The
Packers offense this season, even with Malik Willis Jordan Love,
has been substantial, So I think a Green Bay team
getting healthy at home takes a lead, keeps Kyler Murray
in that offense on the bench. I like the Packers
to win and cover thirty three to twenty four.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Chargers said Broncos.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I don't think Denver's good enough to win four straight games.
I'm gonna take the Chargers off a bye week. They
have both their tackles back minus three, so they're getting healthier.
It's an offensive coach and a good quarterback in a
bye week. They get Derwin James off suspension.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Two.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Harbaugh against rookie quarterbacks has eating them alive. They complete
fifty seven percent of their throws and by the way,
bo Nicks is young. And if you look at the
Chargers defense this season again, it's been really good, outstanding.
The Broncos three straight wins have been over the Raiders, Jets,
and Bucks. They're averaging one point four points per drive.
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That's twenty ninth in the NFL. I'm going to take
the Chargers to win that football game twenty seven to twenty.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I will eat the Points, Lions and Cowboys again.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I'm gonna take Detroit coming off a bye with Ben
Johnson and Jared Goff well balanced on offense, they run
and passed. Goff over the last two games is completing
eighty eight percent of his throws that's because PFF has
their O line is number two.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I think it's number one.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Aiden Hutchison outside of Fred Warners, the highest reded defensive
player in the league. He is just a monster. And
the Cowboys since Week two, they're averaging twenty one points
a game. They're a bb gun, They're games. This is
a really big thing. Dallas is coming off three straight
physical games.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Think about this.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Steelers Giants in Baltimore big games, and their three wins
have been against Justin Fields, Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson.
This is a total step up in class for the Cowboys,
who can't run the football and don't stop it particularly well.
And the Lions have a great O line in two backs,
I like, I'm gonna say the Lions win and cover
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thirty four to twenty eight on love and the favorites
Bills and Jets, except here, I like the Bills to win.
I'm gonna take the points with the Jets plus two
and a half. It's weird when teams get interim coaches.
It's a division rival. Three of the last four meetings
decided by one possession. By the way, the Jets losses
have been to Minnesota. Maybe the best team in the league,
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and the Broncos a chance a game they should have won,
and their defense is allowing fewer yards per play than
any other team in the league. Meanwhile, Bills have sixteen
players on the Thursday injury report. Josh Allen is reeling
his last four games against the Jets, as Jmac noted
this week, have not been good. Seventy four passer rating,
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and we got to be honest about the Jets defense.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
It's outstanding.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It completely shut down Minnesota in the second half. I
think this is a low scoring, close game. I'm gonna
take the points. I think it's a thrilling game. I'm
gonna take the Bills to win twenty four to twenty three,
but I will take the points with the Jets. That's
my blazing four. I took out the Giants game. Molik
neighbors out I'm not rolling. If I had a fifth game.
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There's two I think are interesting. I think Philadelphia, although
I didn't want to take another favorite. I don't like
big favorites. I think Philadelphia couldn't mash Cleveland. I like
Chicago against Jacksonville. Although teams that go to overseas on
a regular basis generally do well, so I don't think
it's good enough to put in the Blazing five. But
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I do think Chicago's gonna win and Philadelphia is gonna win.
It's a rare week where I like favorites, a lot
of favorites. The Giants was a dog. I had to
take that one out once Malikue Neighbors got hurt and
Jay Mack will have his picks in an hour and
a half.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Anything jump out to you that you do.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Like well this whole There's nine home underdogs this week.
I saw that once that this is the most in
like a decade. You got to tread very costiously. Yes,
with home dogs, they're not going to go eight and one,
agree totally. But with neighbors out, wouldn't you just flip
to Bengals.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
No, because I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Everybody's been telling me to bet Joe Burrow for four
weeks and my takeaway is this defense is the worst
in the league. So the Giants with neighbors I thought
would win. Without neighbors, I think they'll be it'll it's close.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
They had the Ravens dead to rights.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
I mean it was over ten point.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
They've had a lot of teams dead to rights. They
are atrocious defensively also true.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
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Speaker 1 (17:52):
So I had said earlier in the first hour. You know,
I always thought Russell Wilson was the cog, that was
the engine, that the catalyst that drove the Seahawks almost dynasty.
But Pete Carroll moved off him, Sean Payton publicly ripped him,
and Arthur Smith clearly took a shot at him. When
asked about Justin Fields, I forgot about this in college.
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His college coach at North Carolina State bailed on him.
That's why I transferred to Wisconsin. So he's had four coaches,
despite being a brilliant player in his prime, move off him.
That at some point I have to acknowledge I'm wrong.
Mike Tomlin earlier today on Russell Wilson's status, backing up
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Justin Fields thought.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
He had a good week.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
He's proven his health. Na, it's just a matter of
knocking the rust off.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
See he's shown you enough to be active on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, he's probably gonna be active as a number two
quarterback like what I've seen out here. But again, health
and rust are two different things. I thought he had
a good week displaying his health, his ability to protect himself.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Na, it's just the process of getting reacclimated.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, Tom O'Brien, Russ had been a very good I
don't know what is. His college numbers at Wisconsin were great,
they were insane best like Wisconsin quarterback one year sample. Ever,
Tom O'Brien chose Mike Glennon over him, and Russell had
been a three year starter. Isn't that crazy? You know?
I have to admit it's like I watched this movie
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and I thought I got it, and then the ending
comes up and it's like, yeah, I didn't get the movie.
I always thought it was Russ. I didn't think it
was Marshawn Lynch. I thought he was good. I didn't
the defense was obviously great, but I thought like Russell
was the catalyst. I mean four different coaches have said
see you later. I mean Arthur Smith taking a shot
at him, say any o this, I like Justin Field's
there's no drama, you know, not living through his avatar.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
The hell? What it is? Crazy? That's not even subtle.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So I was watching Brock Purty last night, and I
was not that I was late, but it was like,
you know, you know, let me see this. So I
think last night was a great example. You watch him
and Gino on the same field. He's a better quarterback
than Gino. So we'll play a little game here. We're
gonna call it better than Brock with a question mark.
You give me the quarterback and all things considered. Now,
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now is this who do I think is better today?
Not not ten years down the line. Just who do
I think is better right now?
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
I don't care about what's happened in the last five years.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, no, no, no, right now. Okay, I don't even care
about salary down the line? Right now?
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Oh, you should be quick.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Who do I think is the better quarterback?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Okay, better than Brock? Is Dak Prescott better than Brock?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, Dak led the NFL and touchdown passes last year
with one star receiver thirty six. So Dak is slightly
better than Brock.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
You just told me it's not about last year, it's.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
About right now. No, But I mean Dak is showing.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean we're only five games into this season, Dak
played like Hellen won this weekend. Again, I didn't say
back five years ago, but I'm looking at who you
are now, and I have to at least look at
last year to some degree.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Okay, is Sam Darnold better than Brock?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
No, I would take Brock. Sam has a history of
getting really, really reckless. Brock Purty's a lot of things,
reckless is never one of them. Also, Sam gets hurt
and Brock Purty doesn't get hurt.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Is Jared Goff? Yes, Jared.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Only Patrick Mahomes in the last three years has thrown
for more yards than Jared Goff. Jared Goff's the number
one pick for a reason. Is Jordan Love better than Brock? Yes,
he's a better He's a better athlete. He's got a
better arm, He's got a better deep ball arm. He's
a better athlete. Over the last fifteen games, Jordan Love
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thirty four touchdowns, ten picks, with a young receiving corps
and a rebuilt offensive line, and he doesn't have Kyle
Shanahan engineering the first half plays.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I thought we had had shifted, but I guess not.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Is CJ.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Stroud better than Brock? Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, I'd take CJ. Stroud. CJ.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Stroud again had the pressure of being part of a
rebuilding franchise.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
He didn't get the Mercedes.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
He got like a used prey and said, hey, he
even gets I got nothing. But I mean he didn't
get here's a Mercedes. Kid, don't hit the garage door.
He got an old car.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Okay, is to uh tongue better than Brock?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
No, I take Brock. He stays he's healthier, and I think.
I think he's more athletic, and I think he's healthier.
This is the first real tough one. Is Jaden Daniels. Yes, yes,
Jaden Daniel is a significantly better athlete. And I mean
you cannot watch Jayden and Daniels and not have this opinion.
He looks a lot like Lamar Jackson. Who do I
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look at with Brock and say, it looks a lot
like there.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Is no Tom Brady. We've been over this. He looks
shorter Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Is bon Nicks better than Brock slightly?
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Ye?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
What, he's a more accurate thrower.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Collegiately, I think Bonix's is by the way, he's starting
to settle in. He didn't inherit all these Kittle and
Debo and Iuke and all these wonderful toys to play with.
He's basically got Courtland Sutton and cross your fingers. Bow
Knicks is on a heater and again CJ. Stroud bow Knicks.
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They have the responsibility to rebuild a team. They don't
get the luxury seating they want.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
So I just want to be clear. Bo Nicks is
better than Brock. Yes, yes, is Trevor Lawrence better than Brock.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Purty if he was on, if both were on the market,
you take Trevor Lawrence, bigger, more athletic, better arm Yeah
that come on, if he was on the market.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And close it's Caleb Williams better than Brock.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yes, that's not close either. One guy's a significantly better athlete.
What you don't take into consideration, this is what people
don't brought. Purty's a trust fund kid. Basically he walked.
He's like Magic Johnson. Here's Kareem. Like, I mean, when
you get to come into college, out of college to
the pros and you literally have the best scheme coach,
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Trent Williams, Debo, Christian McCaffrey, The responsibility is the ask
is totally Caleb's being asked with a wobbly franchise. Hey, kid,
save us, rock Purty's not a save us guy in
of franchise.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Trust fun kid rock Perty is the lowest paid quarterback
in the league. Just not that that means anything anyways.
Is Jalen Hurts better than Rock Party?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
This is the tough one.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
I think Purdy he's more accurate, and Jalen Hurts has
injuries and is clearly regressing. Now I've only got one
moment that Jalen Hurst has been good. That shame Stiken
call in the play stretch, but Jalen gets banged up.
Jalen is not a great pocket passer and he is regressing.
His turnovers are alarming.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
It's Kirk Cousins better than rock Perty right now?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, he just threw for five football fields. He's that
team is so young he's baby sitting him on weekends.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
This might be my favorite segment of the season so far.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Is Baker Mayfield better than Brock Perdy.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
If you gave Baker Mayfield these weapons, he may hoist
a trophy. Baker Mayfield's better, He's a better talent, he
has a much better arm, much better arm, and Baker,
like Brock is more athletic than people think.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Mike Evans said, Godwin there ten.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Is Kyler Murray better than bron I just watched last weekend.
I watched last weekend. What did you see last weekend?
Who was better?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Last weekend?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Kyler Murray was better with the worst coach and Santa
Clara Kyler's better?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Is Aaron Rodgers better than Brock perty.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Today? I take Brock Purdy?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Okay, I have to jump over his desk, Come.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
On, No, but I've been saying for two years Aaron
is way past front.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I mean, if you had any questions about Aaron Rodgers
last weekend, he threw three awful picks that I don't know.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
So I don't know how you're yelling at me.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm not yelling.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I'm very much by the way.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Our staff didn't give you a bunch of dogs with fleas.
They put the best quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Gup.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
They didn't give me Andy Dalton here. So I mean, basically,
you know how much I love Darnold I for years
of like Jalen Hurts, bo.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Nicks is just that was a shocker. Shocker.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I felt like you tasted me with something.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
What the hell's going on here.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
This is something you games bis you look a sample size,
look at rock pretty the last three year, I do
have sixty one college games in the first round across
a college and and Sean Payton texting me about bon Nicks.
You are not understanding there. Maybe you grew up with
wealth and luxury, but when you're asked to carry a franchise,
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it is much different than Hey, just sit down. Oh yeah,
that's a beautiful. It's a it's a Genesis GV eighty coop.
The leather seating, the headlamps, the yeah. I mean everybody
you put you into the GV Genesis eighty coop, everybody
looks like a stun Try driving that prelude down the street.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
The thing is, the funny thing is brock Perty probably
actually drives a prelude because that's all he can afford
because he's making like eight hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Everybody, including I thought you had.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Turned the corner, man, I really did. You've been gassing
up party on social media for a couple weeks now,
and I thought like, this is gonna be a brock
Perty landslide. I thought this is gonna be Remember when
you said there was gonna.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Be like a red wave or or a blue wave,
whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I thought this was gonna be a brock perty wave,
and then I get this and it's just I mean,
come on, Colin.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Hey, America's honesty broker plays no favorites. By the way,
had they put Geno Smith on the board, of course, yeah,
I would have chose Brock.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
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Speaker 1 (27:53):
All right, Speaking of team football, oregonis has to has
to play their game of the last two years. Jeff Schwartz,
a three year starter at Oregon Ducks in Eugene hosting
Ohio State, may have the best player. Chip Kelly's now
a board to fix the run game for Ohio State.
All right, Jeff, host of the Bear Betts Podcast with
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Chris Filica. Who's awesome. It's the biggest college football weekend
by a mile. This one really stands out to me
because I think these two teams, along with Texas maybe Georgia,
I'm cooling on them. I think you can make an
argument Texas, Oregon Ohio State are the best teams in
the country. As a former Duck, tell me the way
to beat this Ohio State team.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Why do we at our best game from Dyan Gabriel.
I mean it's pretty simple, right, He's had a B
performances this year. He's made some A throws. We need
to have the an A game from them. Call it.
Ohio State is supremely gifted. They are a very talented
football team. It's all over the field. It's offensive line,
it's defensive line, obviously, wide receiver. You know, their safeties
are incredible. They're both NFL guys. I mean one of
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them started for Dick Saban as a true to freshman. Like,
it's a legitimately talented team. So you need your best
performance from your most important player with your quarterback. If
Dylan Gabriel gives organ that performance, they can physically hang
tough in this game. Like, I haven't felt this comfortable
with the physicality of an Oregon defense against a team
like Ohio State and maybe forever it comes down to
Dylan Gabriel. And then on the other side, Look, we
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got a pressure Will Howard. Right, If Will Howard gets rattled,
that's a way to win this game. Ohio State has
more ways to win. So Oregan's went way to win.
If Dylan Gabriel playing an A game and a plus game. Look,
Jeremy Smith, you see your here, like there's no defense
for that calling, Like like if they're gonna throw the
ball up to him, he's gonna make the play. You
have to go answer if you're Dylan Gabriel. So I
think it'll have to have more ways to win. But
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if Gabriel plays his best game as a duck, Orgon
can win this game.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
So Ohio State to me in Texas, look the part
I think. I think the they just look different. I
sort of like how Michigan last year just they were
just leaning on everybody, and I feel Ohio State maybe
a better version of Michigan last year. Will Howard the
quarterback road game. Ohio State in these big games hasn't
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necessarily played badly against the Clemson er at Georgia, but
they don't won a lot of them. And this is
not neutral field or a bull game. This is the
loudest place outside of Gainville, Florida, I've ever stood in
a football stadium. You were there many You saw a
lot of teams disintegrate. Are are Are they good enough
Ohio State? Are they good enough at quarterback? Because this
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game could come it's it has a twenty eight, twenty seven,
thirty six thirty three field to it.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Well, we're gonna find out, right, because I think Oregon
will try to stop the run. Is they need to
do in this game of Ohio State runs volt for
two fifty right over the Boiden State a game happens,
the game's over, right, So I think we all understand that.
And Chip Kelly is gonna want run the Football's what
he's always wanted to do and to continue to trying
to do it here because you know, if you get
Will Howard in the third eight, third and nine, then
you let your pass rushers get after it and you
have a better way to force them int turple. He's
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throwing turnovers. He had some bad turnovers last week against Iowa.
So it will come down to trying to find ways
to make this a Will Howard game, not a not
a running game. Looks again, I talk about this. You
mentioned talented teams. I mean Ohio State's right there. I
mean they got maybe not all first round guys everywhere,
but they got guys being drafted from you know, pick
thirty three until pick one hundred, and they probably have
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fifteen to those guys ready right now to go to
the NFL. That doesn't include their young wide receiver they got.
So it's a very talented team. She had to find
a way to get the weakness. I will say one
thing Organ has done well this year, a special teams
certainly helped in a game like this. Special teams could matter, right.
We've had a pump returning, a kickoff return. We've we've
made a fifty yard field goal first time since two
thousand and eight, which only Duck fans care about, but
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pretty long times you've been a fifty yard field goal.
So we've done some little things that might help us
in this game on special teams.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
One hundred and twentieth meeting Texas, I think rolls Oklahoma.
Quinn Yours is back. If he's not, Arch Manning's excellent.
I think this is the best team I've seen. It's
one in one a with Ohio State. Anything about Texas?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Were you.
Speaker 7 (31:58):
Not really not in this game? Oklahoma can't score calling right,
And I think it's really hard in college football when
you're playing an elite team like Texas to not have
the ability offensively to score and explosive plays, right, because
Texas defense is really solid.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
They're good.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
They're good at all levels. Maybe you want to say
secondary is still a little bit of a question mark.
But if you can't exploit the other team in four
to seven plays, you're not going to score for your
Oklahoma against Texas on twelve play drives. It's not gonna happen.
They're they're they're too talented, they're too good. And I
think Texas and you look at at what they can
do well, they basically lost a bunch of guys the
NFL calling and look exactly the same or better and
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all those in all those spots, and it goes back
to what I think is the way to build your roster.
Sarka has taken a lot of time to build via
the high school recruiting in the trenches. Of course, you
can add talent, you know, via via the portal of it.
But we're seeing the sort of the fruition of that
right in year three, four or five. All these guys
are now mature, they're big, they're physical, and when you
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can win in the trenches, you can win any game.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, all right, I want to talk. You know him, well,
you faced him many times. I said, going into this season,
I thought, you know, one of the things I underrated.
USC will only lose their center and their running back.
It's a really young offense and on the offensive line,
it's red shirt freshmen and true sophomores everywhere. Lincoln Riley
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deserves criticism. They don't have three playable tackles in the program.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
They have two. One I don't like.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
So my take is this was a bit predictable, though
I missed on it. Do they have a shot because
Penn State may have one of the best edge rushers
in college football?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Do they have a shot to win?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
This game is a three thousand mile flight that matters
a lot in college So as bad as they looked
against Minnesota, do you like USC's chances this weekend at home?
Speaker 7 (33:52):
Well, they always have a chance. I don't know if
I like it, Colin, because in the last twelve games,
USC's won five or the last twelve games, and the
team and all of their losses the same. They're play
a team that's more physical than them, and they get
beat in the you know, at the line of scrimmage.
And last year they weren't as bad in the offense.
The offensive line is a huge problem. They'd bench guys
during games this season. Yeah, and then the play calling sometimes,
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like you know, this is a traditional thing that happens
to play calls, right, where when you sort of things
go badly, what do you do you revert back to
passing the ball? Well, they're rund the ball. Okay, it
happened last year too, Marshall Mooyd average like seven and
a half yards of carry, but it got twelve a game.
And so we're getting a situation where we're sort of
not trusting the offense because the offensive line camp block,
we're not scoring points. They're much better defensively like that
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that could keep them in a game like this where
I think Penn State's offense we still want to see
a little bit more from them. It's there, right, the
bits and pieces are there. But USC physically in these
games over the last basic calendar year has not played
well and they have not covered these games, so I
sort of have to see it calm before it happens.
We talk about sark, you know, building up in the trenches.
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It's year three at the USC, but it's year one
for their rebuilding. The trenches they're far behind, and rebuild
the trenches and it's gonna show this weekend.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Finally, Dion Sanders, you know it's different. He gets attention.
I think Kansas State's a real team. I think Kansas
State and Utah watched them both. Those are the best
teams in the Big twelve. I think Colorado's a bit
over their skis, but it is it's in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
They've got momentum.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
You can argue they have the two best players in
the country, Shadeur Sanders Travis Hunter. What say you on
this one? Kansas State's a real team. I'm not sure
Colorado is, but they're a real fun story.
Speaker 7 (35:33):
Well, they're off their best win, right that the UCF
game was a legitimate win. That that that that's the
best one they've had. I think your point, Colorado mean,
Kansas State's just better across the board and Colorado's improved
a lot. Like this is not really an anti Colorado.
I think Kantas State's better across the board. Yeah, but
the issue that you always have in any of these
games is what happens if Shadur throws for four hundred yards.
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That's always the problem, Like you know, and so it's
hard to bet against Colorado for that reason. I think
the state is better. I think that the problems that
we saw Colorado having this Nebraska, Kansas State can do
the same things to them. But Kids's quarterback Ari Johnson
cannot pass the football. So if they get behind this
game or turn to track me, I like Colorado in
this game, right, so both teams off of buy, I
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think Kansas State is better. The fear of betting against
Colorado is Sanders and Hunter the two best players on
every team. I mean every game, every time they play,
and they can always come back in a game and
make plays. Look they show lost the Baylor, they didn't,
they won. Like those are things that Colorado does other
teams can't do because they don't have that quarterback. So
I think the number two is off. I took Kansas
State mice three and a half. I think they're better
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than them. Yeah, by more than that, especially on the road,
but one surprising Colorado won.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
By the way, I want to throw this out I
said this week, Mahomes is only six to two, Aaron
Rodgers is six to one and a half. I've never
even thought about their hight. Cam Ward's listed at six
to two. I think he looks small. Shaduor Sanders is
six to two. I never think about his height. I
would take shaduor Sanders as the number one quarterback in
college despite some you know, some ego stuff. Are you
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a Shodoor Sanders fan.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
Yeah, so I've said this before. I actually think if
you put him on Texas or Georgia or Bama, he's
the number one pick, no questions asked. I think he's
that good a player like he is. His footwork's good,
he knows we're to go with the ball. He's super
tough and he's getting beat up back there.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
All.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, this is a little bit better.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
Like I just think if you put him, his offense
is stagnant. They just line up in a formation. They
stand there and stab the ball, which he might like
to do. That's not really the best offensive design. We know,
motions and shifts and whatnot. Like imagine if you play
with sark I think we say, no doubt number one
quarterback cam Wored makes two any mistakes. Sure doesn't throw
the ball across his body like that interception that cam
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wore through the end of the first AFGANS cal.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Shouldow would never do that.
Speaker 7 (37:50):
So the cam Moore decision making process, which has gotten
better from Washington State, still has that in him. Sure
doesn't do things like that, So I think I'm played elsewhere.
We looked at him, even in higher guard that we
do at Colorado, with issues he has on his offensive.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Line Jeff Schwartz, eight years former Duck. By the way,
Oregon had the number one rushing offense in the country
when Jeff Schwartz was there. Yes, so here's the weekend.
I actually like Iowa, Texas, Penn State, Arizona, Oregon, LSU
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pass Kansas State.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
I've bet on Iowa, I bet on Penn State, I
bet on Kansas State. So far, all right, those are
my and I think Texas covers. I think Texas roles.
I just can't see Oklahoma. They can't score. Man, how
do you win a game we can't score or I
cover game, I should say.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
We can't score. Good job, what a crush it. Thank you,
thanks buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
You bet