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September 13, 2024 • 40 mins

Colin reacts to Dolphins QB Tua Tagovailoa suffering another concussion and Bills QB Josh Allen putting on another impressive performance in their win over Miami

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
All right, it is a Friday. We are live as
usual in Los Angeles. Wherever you may be and however
you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of
your day. One hour from now, I have my blazing
five picks. Jmack will have his in the third hour.
Last night, yes, there was a football game. The bigger story,
of course, is Tua had his fourth concussion, and you know,

(00:52):
I think it's something we had thought about last year.
Did not have one. Jmac. So when you see the
fencing in the hands, it is, it's so tough to watch,
and I want to start with that, not the Bills win.
If I was Tua, I would probably call it a career.
I would probably call it a rap. If Tua was

(01:12):
my son, my son was playing football, I would suggest
calling it a rap. But I'm not a pro athlete.
They are hyper competitive, they fight to the end, and
in team sports, they often feel a guilt to teammates
and coaches in letting them down. It is real. It's
one of the many reasons pro athletes are admirable and redeemable.

(01:35):
They fight, they play through pain. They don't want to
let teammates down. They cry when they do. I'm thinking
about this this morning. I wonder if the NFL should
not consider an amnesty clause every team gets won every
five to ten years, that if a player gets a
concussion or a serious, possible career ending injury, the payer

(01:59):
gets played. But it doesn't go against it's an amnesty clause.
It doesn't go against one every five to ten years
your salary cap, so it doesn't punish the coaches or
the teammates. Because I think two is probably going to
talk himself into playing again, and I'm not sure he should.
He's a great guy, very thoughtful, and he's a wonderful teammate.

(02:21):
He has an incredible reputation in the league, and I
think he'll talk himself into playing. I think he'll have doubts. Reportedly,
a member of his families suggest that it's time to
quit I think I would, but that's not the way
pro athletes are. Andrew Luck was rare that in his twenties,
in his prime, he walked away. But it's very hard

(02:42):
for pro athletes to do that. I mean, think about it.
Most of us go to college and we start thinking
about our careers. But the journey for a professional athlete
often starts when they're six, seven, eight years old. People
sacrifice for them, it's or their identity, it's a lifestyle.
Two has been a quarterback back in Hawaii for I

(03:04):
mean probably started at six or seven years old, and
he what twenty six years old now something like that.
It's a big part of him. I mean, he's got
a life beyond that. But it's a big part for
pro athletes, and it's a real palpable thing. They feel guilt,
they hurry themselves back to play. I've talked to NFL athletes.
I had dinner last night with an NFL executive and

(03:24):
he said, you know, we have to sometimes tell players
you can't play this week, you are too hurt. You
have to protect them. They fight to the finish. It's
not what I do, it's not maybe what you do,
but it's what they do. Should the NFL consider somewhat
of an amnesty clause to protect the players from themselves.

(03:45):
Again to his decision, it's his, but my guess he'll
talk himself into playing. He'll say things like, you know,
I'll be smarter next time. I could have avoided that. Hey,
I didn't get hurt last season. And maybe all those
are true. But being a pro athlete it is almost addictive.
It's a wonderful life. It can be a tough life.
It can be a physically punishing life. But just to

(04:07):
ask Tua on his own to step down and retire,
all the coaches, all the teammates, there's a bond in
pro sports that's hard to explain. A lot of teams,
there's limitations on when guys like me are even allowed
in the locker room, and truthfully, I never like going
into them. It's a sanctuary for pro athletes. It's a club.
I haven't earned the right to be there. They have

(04:28):
to let us in. But it's a special place. It's
a special bond. I've been around pro athletes. I've seen
them cry years later recalling games. They're in their sixties
and seventies. Those were fifty years ago. There's really nothing
like it. And more often than not, when you pay
a player and Tua just got the bag, they feel
a responsibility to not let teammates down, coaches down, fans down,

(04:53):
the franchise down. Oh they could. A lot of people
could get the money and then take work off a
little early. But that's not how tool works, and that's
not how most pro athletes I've known worked. I think
I would call it a rap. Mike McDaniel, the very
bright head coach to the Dolphins, offered this after I'm.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Just worried about the the human being. From a medical standpoint.
That's I don't approach things that I'm far inferior of expertise.
For me to go ahead and forecast things that I
don't know and in my non field of expertise, I

(05:37):
don't think that's appropriate. I was just worried about my guys.
So yeah, that's it's uh yeah, not not something that
you uh every want ever want to be a part of.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
It's tough. Dion Dawkins of the Buffalo Bills talked after
the game. He an opponent arrival was emotional.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
It was the saddest thing, I promise you it was
the saddest thing. We're all just watching them running. We're
like slide bro slide ro slide bro slide. And this
game is so fast. It's a game of inches. You know,
if he would have just slid just a little inch before.
It's such a sad thing. My prayers, my heart goes
out to Tua, his family, his parents, and I hope

(06:30):
that he's going to recover well because this is a
violent game and that shows it.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
The decision is touas and tas only. But I bet
privately the NFL is having discussions this morning, and I
bet they prefer he walk away, not to punish the Dolphins,
to protect Tua. Believe it or not, they've said forever,
this league, this sport, it's about family, and of all
the sports I'd covered in my life, it really is.

(06:58):
It's different. Wish him and the Dolphins. Well, it's his decision,
only the game. So we've talked about this in sports
in the NBA with Luca, like how much Luca is
too much Luca if he always leads the NBA and
what they call usage rate, Well, if the NFL had that,
Josh Allen would lead the league in usage rate last

(07:20):
year I think fifty eight touchdowns the Bills had. He
was part of fifty one like that, that's not the
way you want it. Last night Buffalo had four touchdowns.
Josh Allen was part of one of the four. That's
what you want. That's what the Celtics did. The Celtics said,
we love Jason Tatum. He's all NBA First Team, but
we're going to lean into collaborative. Dallas Till still trying

(07:45):
to figure that out with the Mavericks. And I think
Buffalo is getting really close. And I think last night
was an example. This is what I keep asking with Buffalo.
I didn't have him in my top ten to start
the season, let me watch him. But last night was impressive.
I mean a downfall of the Patriots at the end,
and they were too relyingt on Brady. But the Bills
now have a really good running back, Joe Brady, the

(08:06):
offensive coordinator, he and Alan work. They have depth at
wide receiver, too strong, above average tight ends. They looked efficient,
not a lot of penalties, offensive line dominated, zero sacks allowed.
It was now Miami's not one of the better defenses
in the league, but they're not terrible. I look at
this last night and I think is this a pivot.

(08:28):
Sean McDermott deserves some credit. Last couple of years, they're
drafting offensive guys in the first couple rounds, first couple picks.
It's tight ends, it's wide receivers, it's running backs. They're
trying to get him help. They're not being stubborn. Sean
McDermott and the Bills are listening. They're not being stubborn here.
I mean, like, I think Lamar Jackson's amazing. I don't
think he can take those kind of hits. I don't

(08:49):
think it's sustainable. But I watched last night. Buffalo now
feels more complete. They don't have any dramat wide receiver,
offensive line was excellent, a really nice running back, tight ends,
wide receiver depth, I mean four touchdowns, Josh Allen only
connected to one. I think that's the Buffalo Bills that
can win a Super Bowl. I didn't know. I watched

(09:13):
the Arizona game and my takeaway was, oh, goodbye, you
got you gotta let's put the Superman cap away. Last
night they did. Here's Josh after.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
When you look at the statuet, I don't I don't
know what our numbers were, but I know we were
really low in time with possession, and we were probably
really low in total yards, but still managed to put
up thirty one points. And that that means your defense
is doing something right. So they had our back tonight
and we're gonna need them going forward. And I'm just
very proud of how guys stepped up into their to
their roles and they played together. You know, when you

(09:43):
play together like that, you're typically gonna have good results.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
All Right, there's stuff on Caleb Williams to talk about.
Greg Cosel yesterday was appointed criticism. We have a blazing five.
I'm going some heavy favorites. I rarely do that, but
I am this week, and uh, just how good it
Josh Allen? I mean, it's just there are certain athletes,
this was Lebron in his prime, where you could have
an NBA game on you could just turn the sound down,

(10:07):
not listen to the announcers of the crowd, and you'd
be like, who's that guy? When I watch television, you
just turn the sound down. And Josh Allen just doesn't
look like other pro athletes, I mean the kids. He's
just too talented not to eventually win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1 (10:30):
One of the teams that is surging in the NFL,
the Houston Texans, host a team that I think could
be in a little bit of trouble, the Chicago Bears. Now,
the Bears are one of the more captivating teams, overwhelmingly
because of one guy. Caleb Williams, the number one pick,
the Heisman winner out of USC is a stupendous talent.
But no matter how gifted you are, there is a

(10:51):
way to play quarterback in the NFL. Ask Johnny Manziel.
Backyard football doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
It just does.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I don't care how gifted you are, it doesn't work.
Lamar Jackson has always been better in the pocket a
one oh two passer rating last year in the pocket,
better in the pocket that anybody will give him credit for. Yes,
Caleb is gifted, but they're just things you can't do.
Add lib your way to wins. So Patrick Mahomesu and

(11:19):
the great ones can do this. You think you know
the behind the back stuff, He's practiced that two hundred
times in practice ninety seven percent or higher. Of Patrick
Mahomes is structured, it's under control, it's coached. He plays
within the offense, within the pocket, and about three times

(11:41):
a game he goes big time. Michael Jordan lived on
seventeen footers and twice a game he did something you'd
never seen. So Caleb in Week one felt like, if
Mahomes is ninety seven percent under structured in the pocket,
Caleb felt like a fifty to fifty proposition. And you
can't improv in the NFL. Now, you can blame the

(12:02):
offensive line, but the late comedian Robin Williams, Patrick Mahomes,
the great ones. They make you think they're improvising and
they're not. And they can audible out of trouble. That's
the gift of Brady and Manning and Breeze and Mahomes.
They don't face the pressure regularly because they can audible
out of it and see it. The pocket is your friend.

(12:26):
Seek comfort there. That's where you lay your head at
night home.

Speaker 7 (12:33):
C J.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Stroud's a great example of this. C J. Stroud rushed
only thirty nine times last year. Think about this, fifty
percent of his rushes. This is how intentional c J.
Stroud is where touchdowns are first downs. He runs when
he has to and he can't, But fifty percent where
touchdowns are first downs, that's intentional. That's being able to

(12:58):
see things coming, that's having an idea pre snap, I
may move here. That's the way to do it. Caleb
looked out of sorts, a little disorganized, ad libbing to
a fault, and Greg Cosell yesterday discussed it.

Speaker 8 (13:13):
He was very focused on just executing the play call,
whether that receiver was open or not. That's very common
for rookie quarterbacks in their first start. So he made
a lot of throws that he probably shouldn't have made.
The ball comes out of his hand beautifully. We all
know that he needs to really get a better innate
understanding of the pocket and how to play from the pocket.

(13:34):
He tends to move and create his own pressure. He
tends to climb the pocket and step up when he
doesn't need to. Now, in college, maybe you can get
away with that at times, but in the NFL you're
not going to get away with that.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Make it intentional, and so much of this Brady talks about,
so much of avoiding pressure is pre snap. Can you
read the defense kind of contextualize what's going to happen
before it happens. That is this lead you can you
can Johnny Manziel was Nick Saban couldn't stop Johnny Manziel
in college. With all those first round NFL defensive players
could stop Johnny Manziel. Five minutes into the league, You're like, Yeah,

(14:11):
it's not gonna work at all. That's not gonna work
at all. And after I watch Week one, I'm like,
it'll work because he's more talented than Manziel. But that's
not gonna work at a high level at all. Jmack
with a news no turns.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
This is the herdline news.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
All right, let's start with the Bengals Chiefs, a prime
AFC matchup on Sunday. Teams have an interesting recent history.
Burrow's done well against Kansas City and wouldn't you know it,
but Jamar Chase is giving Casey bulletin board material. He's
going after the two time defending champions. Here's what he
said yesterday.

Speaker 9 (14:47):
Yeah, everybody knows that it's not no if you know
what I'm saying, we are a team to be an
AFC and we know it, and we gotta act like it.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
And we gotta play like it too.

Speaker 9 (14:58):
All that noise y'all making stuff, we say it, we
hear it, but we're not about it. And I'm saying
the advance about the team and what'll be done on
the field outside. People not on the field tell them
that's what they're doing on the field. So I'll let
them stay outside. And I had him make their own comments.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, yeah, I don't think anybody knows that. I don't
even know if Cincinnati's a playoff team. I didn't know
it before the season. I don't know it now. I
think less of it.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
Now, hooking the bear, like, what are you doing? By
the way, the Bengals, I know they have. Joe Burrow
has a good record three and one. We got the
stats against Casey. I just want to remind people the
last time the Bengals beat the Chiefs was December.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Of twenty twenty two.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Yeah, they lost the last two. Now Burrow, though had
played well. Yeah, it looks like t Higgins is a
no go again this week. Jamar Chase will play.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
My question is, after Jamar Chase that rookie Burton.

Speaker 10 (15:43):
You had like four snaps last week?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, I mean, so they don't they don't have. You
got to have something beyond the one. They can roll
cover a joke, maman.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
The last as it stands right now, who scares you
more offensively, the Cowboys or the Bengals, be honest, Cowboys no,
So I don't know how the Bengals are story here,
like I don't know what they're doing. So, by the way,
Jamar Chase some details on his contract. He was offered
the same contract justin Jefferson was, but Chase did not

(16:10):
like the structure of the guarantees. The Bengals for some
reason push the guarantees to twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
They're cheap.

Speaker 10 (16:17):
Chase is like, what do you doing? I want my
money now?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, of course. Like that's the difference between the Eagles,
the Rams, the Niners, and the Bengals. That's why the
Bengals reputation. They fans get really feisty about reputation. The
reputation of the Steelers is they don't spend a lot
of money up front on offense, especially on offense. They
don't like to give up guaranteed money. And the Bengals
are cheap too. They're a cheap franchise. Like the idea

(16:41):
that you could go to somebody and push. This isn't
baseball like the Dodgers doing it to Otani. They have
the money, but they're trying to help him tax wise,
so he can get a lot of his money and
he lives out of the state of California, lower tax rate.
That's clever, smart, and the player, by the way, is
all up for that. This is just being cheap. Pay
the money, give him his money.

Speaker 10 (16:58):
Now, is this game in the Blazing five?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
No any consideration, by the way, Hollywood Brown is did
you read the story on him this morning? No? Is
he enter out out out, No, this game's not under consideration.
I I just don't know. I mean again, I think
I would take the Bengals and the points because I
tend to I like to take point. This week, I'm
taking favorites three and I don't do that very often,

(17:23):
and I feel good about all of them.

Speaker 10 (17:25):
I haven't seen the pick, so I'm very excited from
that Blazing five. Let's get to the next story.

Speaker 7 (17:29):
And as Russell Wilson, he's gonna miss the revenge matchup
against his former team, likely due to the calf injury.
Now Russ has been at practice, he's getting light work
all signs point to field starting. Steelers obviously didn't miss
Russ in the Week one game against the Falcons.

Speaker 10 (17:44):
But Russ says he's close to returning to action.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I feel like I'm getting closer and closer. You know.

Speaker 11 (17:49):
I'm just trying to be smart, and you know, I
got to do a lot of work today, you know,
on on the field and everything.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Else, throwing at all that. So just trying to be smart.

Speaker 11 (17:56):
Anybody knows me, I always want to go and play,
and that's how I get my mind right, my body
ready for that and to you know, you know play. Uh,
you know, at the end of the day, I believe
you got to play. Dinged up sometimes us and I
think the coach you know, he's also and the trainers
just want to be smart too as well. It's just
because you know, we know it's early in the season.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, it's just becoming the mess we predicted it would be.
It's really becoming what we thought. Listen, they'll want to
know that's the good news. And so it's you know,
the Jets are potentially a much better team or a
one one. The Steelers are want to know it matters.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Yeah, how did you get that in there. So now, yeah,
I noticed the third game. Should Russ say, hey, Mike,
I'm ready to go.

Speaker 10 (18:39):
They play the Chargers at home next.

Speaker 7 (18:42):
Week if they're doing all, I just don't see how
you bench justin Field, even if he's been pedestrian. You know,
maybe he has three interceptions and they win twenty one
to twenty on some fluky stuff.

Speaker 10 (18:54):
And then I got Justin Fields wasn't good.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
But it's not like the Broncos defense was any good
against Geno Smith and nuth Walker last week?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Were they? I mean, I don't know this. This is
just again. Are you shocked that Pittsburgh Steelers can't get
their offense right? Anybody surprised? Raise your hand? And by
the way, remember when when Brady retired, it was Cam
it was mac Jones, and a year later they couldn't

(19:21):
get their offense right. Anybody surprised. I mean, it's just
like Seattle. You know, Gino Smith, Drew Locke. We were like, okay,
that's fine, but Pete, you're getting into your seventies. You
got to you gotta start winning some big games here
in the postseason. These defensive coaches they get hey, I'll
get the offense right. The run game. We can be
okay at quarterback. Those days are over. There's too many
good quarterbacks, and there's most of those good quarterbacks have

(19:44):
offensive coaches. You can't just ham an egg quarterback. You
can't do Russell Wilson and Justin and just with an
offensive line that's got major questions. You know, you know,
it just doesn't work.

Speaker 10 (19:54):
Yeah, and these CAF injuries. You can't mess around. Forty
nine ers with McCaffrey there, you just don't mess around.

Speaker 7 (19:59):
Final story is the forty nine ers coming off that
Week one win over the Jets. They're going on the
road to face Minnesota. Interesting line movement in this game.
A lot of people like the Vikings. Talking to reporters
in the locker room earlier this week, Nick Bosa talked
about San Francisco's prep listen closely come this week.

Speaker 12 (20:16):
I think we're playing a better honestly, a better team.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
That's uh.

Speaker 12 (20:23):
They're playing better football, it looks like. And they run
run the ball well, and we're gonna have to be better.
And our techniques we kind of got away with some
things last week. So so yeah, we have to hone
in and not not pat ourselves on the back.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Nick Bosa basically saying, we got away with stuff last week.
You can't get away with it with Minnesota's offense because
Minnesota's got more good players on offense and a quarterback
that can move well touchtone.

Speaker 10 (20:51):
I might challenge that.

Speaker 7 (20:52):
I mean, Jordan Addison out, Justin Jeffers out, Justin Jefferson
is better than Garret Wilson.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Muf tackles the best in football after Trent Williams running game,
powerful running game with a veteran.

Speaker 10 (21:04):
Do you think the Vikings are better than the Jets?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I think the hit I think the Vikings offense is
better than the Jets offense because one of them is
coached by Nat Hackett and won by Kevin O'Connell. So,
I mean, I don't think there's any question Minnesota rogers.
Nick Bosa is telling you.

Speaker 10 (21:20):
He's taking a shot at the Jets.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
No, no, no, he's talked slowly. He was not trying to
take a shot. He almost talked. He backwards. He kind
of backtracked what he said because he knew it sounded
bad for the Jets. But he was like, we we
got away with some stuff with the Jets. We will
not be able to get away with it with Minnesota.
What is that telling you? The coaching's better, the details

(21:41):
are better. And Sam Darnold the week one was better
than Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
He's playing the Giants like a college defense.

Speaker 10 (21:48):
Those guys think, all right, wow, look at it.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
So both So okay, all right, I got I guess
I'll just say we'll.

Speaker 10 (21:54):
See you in the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Pal okay. J Mack with the news, Well that's the news,
and thanks for stopping by the.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Herd Line News.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
You know it's a I saw yesterday. I really do
try to stay off the phone. I saw Elon Musk
and Travis Kelcey going at it. Uh, Travis Kelcey taking
a shot at Elon Musk on X. Tom Brady had
his top five yesterday. He had Kansas City number one.
I honestly think the Chiefs are the best thing to

(22:27):
happen to the NFL since, like the nineties Dallas Cowboys,
they're rock stars. They lean into it, distracted what distractions,
you know, They're kind of like a nineteen eighties hairband,
you know what I mean. They have a really good time.
They lean into it. They don't always seem like their focus,
but they never disappoint. They put in a great show.

(22:50):
And I think Kansas City's great for the league. It's
like it's nothing against the Patriots dynasty or Alabama's dynasty
or the Tim Duncan dynasty. Was it was like Shakespeare.
You knew it was historically great, but it was like, eh,
could you guys lighten up a little art? Thou lighten

(23:10):
up a little little dry Kansas City, the Chiefs, the
Warriors with Steph you know, Pete Carroll with USC, the
Cowboys in the nineties. They're rock stars and they're I
think it's good for the league. By the way, the
Week one ratings last two years, ratings going up and
up and up and up and up, and Kansas City

(23:32):
keeps leaning into it, and I just think they're really
really good for the league, really really exceptional for the league.
So I want to say this about Sean mcderbott and
the Buffalo Bills last night. So I've been very critical
of defensive coaches like Belichick who just keep digging, digging,
digging into defense. I mean, he made a defensive coordinator

(23:53):
an offensive coordinator. I've been very critical of Mike Tomlin.
Again more than cape leader and motivator of men, but
he you know he's digging in. The Steelers once again
lead the NFL in paying their defense over their offense
year after year after year. Is that Sean McDermott was

(24:13):
getting a lot of heat last year, remember the Tyler
Dunn article and some of its coaches in the locker room.
But I don't see Sean McDermott as an old, rigid,
stubborn coach. And the reason I don't see it is
because I'm watching him evolve. He's not digging in. He's
not old school. I think Sean McDermott has listened to
his critics. I mean, they drafted a tight end last

(24:35):
year first pick. This year, their first pick overall, I
think it was second round was a wide receiver. James
Cook was a second round pick. So the first four
or five years there, you know, after the Josh Allen pick,
they were going defensive guys heavy in the draft at
the top of the draft their first picks. Now they've evolved,
they're going heavy offensive guys. He's also moved off multiple

(24:56):
offensive coordinators. He understands the value of the He's also
let some really good defensive players go. I look at
Sean McDermott at a guy who's evolving. He's not being
old school. He's not digging his feet in. He's trying
to get Josh Allen helped. A lot of teams don't
draft tight ends in the first round. He's going tight end.

(25:18):
He got a running back in the second round. A
lot of teams first second round. They don't want to
get running backs. They want to get that stuff later.
So they're using their draft capital on offensive guys very early.
They're moving off first round guys as defensive guys. He's
moving off defensive players. He keeps fine. Joe Brady appears
to be a great fit with Josh Allen. So like
Mike Tomlin has not had a playoff win in six years,

(25:40):
Belichick didn't have it in his last five years in
New England. And it just felt like they kept doubling
down on defense. And it feels very old school to me.
And I don't think Sean McDermott's old school. I think
he's evolving. That's what I'm watching. Here's Sean McDermott after
the win line night.

Speaker 13 (26:01):
We've got a lot of new players and whatnot, and
you're never really sure. There's so many unknown starting a season,
and you know we'd come back the first week of
the season and win, And I think that was a
step for us, for any team to be able to
say that you can do that, you can play in
close games, and then this game being able to come
down here in a short week to your point at

(26:23):
their place and and play.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Play like we did.

Speaker 10 (26:27):
We played We played our styles football.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean, no penalties, not having turnovers, running the football,
offensive line, dominance. It was like, it wasn't that totally
Josh Allen reliant. And the reason being is because of
the rookie receiver, the other tight end, the running back.
They've done a good job. They you know, listen, they've
won four straight AFC East titles. I didn't have them

(26:51):
in my top ten week one because I just I
wanted to watch them. I just let's just watch. And
I watched them play Arizona. I'm like, eh, it's just
too Josh Allen. I was totally impressed last Like, that's
a super Bowl team. And I do feel with Josh
Allen he's too talented not to win one. But that's
as good a win, not just because of the outcome
and not just because of the separation with Miami that's

(27:13):
about as good a win and as hopeful a win.
If you think the Bills should win the Super Bowl,
that's as good as it gets. Big running game, no penalties,
no mistakes, didn't have that many tonal yards, not a
lot of Superman plays. It was just help. Josh. It's
like we said this about Luka Dontac, Like, you start

(27:33):
looking at this schedule now, and they got a tough
one against Baltimore. I mean, they've they've got They're gonna
need some balance here when they face Lamar C. J. Stroud,
Aaron Rodgers. I don't know. This schedule looks like a
lot of wins to me. It gets really tough in November.
But I thought that was really impressive last night Arizona.
In the first half, you weren't quite sure what they were.
It's Week one, nobody knows what anybody is.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
Wait, Colin, hold up, hold on, are you sure that
the Bills are very good with these two results, because
if you look at the holes in that run game
last night, Miami just had no defense. I mean the
Jags went up and down the field against him in
the first half.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
On Sunday they wore down.

Speaker 7 (28:08):
But I'm looking at the Josh Allen passing numbers. In
week one he through twenty three passes and week two
we through nineteen. Yes, this is a totally different Bills
team than the ones of years.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Exactly what I happened.

Speaker 10 (28:19):
But is this sustainable throwing against the teams?

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well, it's there too.

Speaker 7 (28:23):
Arizon is a five win team, Miami looks like a
six to seven eight win team.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, what I would say is get past the result.
When you're throwing nineteen and twenty three times, the Bills
are sending a message what we're doing is fun. It's
not working. It's not working. So the Bills are pivoting
to we need to become more balanced and more run first.
The other thing, as good as Josh is every season

(28:49):
December on, it's four degrees Thurman Thomas, you have to
run the ball. This is not Miami. We always talk
about Miami's great. In September, it's warm and buff all
for about two home games, and then all of a sudden,
by November you got snowfall. So to me, the way
to win with this organization is power running in defense,

(29:09):
and with McDermott, we know the defense is always going
to be fine. I mean just what they do. They're
always going to be above average defensively because of Sean.
But I look at those passing totals and I'm like,
stop worrying about winning MVPs twenty three to twenty four
passes with Josh Allen. You know what that shows me? Discipline? Okay,
Like the offensive coordinator is disciplined.

Speaker 7 (29:27):
So I love this conversation. Remember in the summer we
said there was a wide receiver bubble happening, and these
guys are overpaid. You cannot pay your quarterback and your
receiver this month and expect to continue to win. What
did we see in week one? Colin the fewest three
hundred yard passers in week one in over a decade.
There was only two of them, and we saw a
lot of one hundred yard rushers I think of the

(29:49):
most since like twenty eleven or something. Are we seeing
a pivot from passing league heavy to let's go back
to the run. We've overemphasized passing. Let's pivot back to running.

Speaker 13 (29:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I think there's two things here. When you pay quarterbacks
what you're paying them now, protecting them becomes even more vital.
So you do not want your quarterback throwing forty five
times a game. You're trying to protect the number one asset.
That's always been the case. Now you're paying guys five
hundred million dollars. The second thing is everything is cyclical.
In the NBA, it's all about three pointers. Then you

(30:19):
go to the playoffs in the mid range teams, the
team's getting buckets. You know, you get to the playoffs
and it's like there's a lot of you know, there's
a lot of teams not shooting threes winning games. Right
the NBA it's a small league, small ball. Now it's
all the big guys dominating the league. What the Celtics
have is length. What Denver had, Denver had length, what
Dallas to the finals had BIG's length. When they acquired

(30:42):
it at the trade deadline, they were a better team.
So everything is cyclical in sports. It used to be
in baseball you could not strike out. Now it's the
ground balls. The killer get the ball in the air.
And so in the NFL you had this time where
it was like, now it's all about passing, and I
still think that's the way to win. But the difference
is quarterbacks now are so expensive and you have to

(31:04):
pay him because all the rules now favor the quarterback. Well,
what you don't want is that forty passing attempt number.
That's the number to avoid. You want your quarterback throwing
thirty eight or less. Go look at Dak the minute
Dak throws forty or over, losing record thirty eight and
under winning record.

Speaker 10 (31:20):
Well, the only thing about paying the quarterback.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
Okay, Jordan Love goes down in week one, We'll see
what the health status is, could be out three to.

Speaker 10 (31:26):
Six, maybes back. Yea Tua goes down in week two.

Speaker 7 (31:30):
Those teams are cooked if the quarterbacks out for a
prolonged period of time.

Speaker 10 (31:32):
Well, so I listen. I'm hopeful that two is okay.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
I like that.

Speaker 10 (31:37):
I like contract looks horrible, and I know you had
to pay him, but there's other options.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, no, I think tous contract. I said it before.
I think a lot of media members. I remember when
two assigned. I read a lot that day because my
take was I wouldn't have gone there. I think I
said that on the show. I was not comfortable based
on his concussion history and his inability to win weather
in January, I couldn't have gone there, Dak. I'm actually

(32:03):
more comfortable with because Dak's a bigger, stronger guy, and
I don't look at Dak as a guy that can't
win North. With Tua, it was always like, you know,
I just don't think. I mean, look at all the
good teams in the AFC, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Buffalo,
it's all cold while you're playing in January. None of
them have domes. Or in the NFC, a lot of
the good teams North have domes like Detroit. And so

(32:24):
I had repercussions and what happened last night was the
elephant in the room. Nobody wanted to talk about it,
but it was something that you know, I mean, he
had three concussions.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
And by the way, before the concussion, he was awful,
Well he was Interceptions were, yeah, he was struggling. Maybe
it's just Buffalo because against Buffalo he always stinks up
the joint.

Speaker 10 (32:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
But I think this is why you need to have
these conversations. I said this when Joe Biden was still president.
I said, you have to have hard conversations. This can't
be the president going forward. That can't be the candidate.
Like have hard conversations. It's painful. You like Joe Biden,
Democrats eventually had hard conversations. You have to do the
too a thing. As you were going to sign this contract,

(33:03):
there were people that were like, hey, let's not get
into the no no, no, no. You got to consider
everything because once you go four or five years at
forty five to fifty five million dollars, it changes the
entire organization. So you know, you just we're.

Speaker 10 (33:14):
Happy to have got paid. Obviously, I I'll.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Go back to it.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
I think there should be an amnesty clause. I think
I think I would like to see Two or retire.
That's what I would do. He gets all his money,
but I feel bad because Two is gonna feel He'll
probably feel guilty. He's you know, he'll probably feel like
I got to come back and help the franchise. I'd
rather re retire. That said I, if he does, then
all of a sudden, his teammates, his coaches, I mean,
you got this contract without a player. So this has

(33:40):
a lot of tentacles. I think everybody sides on compassion.
We're all hoping to is fine, you know, and I
think some of us, I'm one of those, I would
probably lean toward called a career. But pro athletes just
don't do that.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Those guys are they are warriors out there. They fight
to the end, they feel guilt, they want to be
part of something. He'll, you know, he'll probably have sort
of an abandonment thing, like he's quitting. So pro athletes go,
I know, they get paid a lot and they're famous,
but they go through a lot. Here he's you know,
they've built this franchise around Toua and I think he

(34:14):
feels that responsibility. My guess is he feels that. I mean,
he's a very bottom line religious conviction. This is a guy,
not a guy that's got his head all over the play.
He's always football, family, faith. He's a very centered kid.
And I think faith, family, and football matter to him.
And I think his teammates are everything to him and

(34:34):
his family, and in sports, your teammates are family. And
so I think it's going to be really difficult for him.
I really do this.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
Last note on the Bills real quick. In the running game,
you like to talk about seeing around corners. I'm just
telling you look for a lot of two tight end
sets around the league this weekend. A lot of running
the football, controlling clock. Guys like the Minnesota Vikings they
get that early lead and Aaron Jones, did you see
them lean on the running game against the Giants?

Speaker 10 (34:59):
Darn early passing.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
We're gonna run the I think Donold through like three
passes second half, like we just just get out of
here with the win. The run game is starting to
come back in the NFL. Remember two summers ago, it
was like nobody wants to pay running backs. Well they're
back down.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
And here's what happened. Linebackers got smaller, Saty's got smaller
and faster. Well, all of a sudden, you start looking
after a two or three year trend. You got two
hundred and twenty pound linebackers, not two hundred and forty.
You can run the football. So this stuff is all cyclical.
Jim Harbaugh takes over, he drafts Joe Alt, and what
does he get JK. Dobbins. So Harball comes into the NFL.
The first thing he does is I'm not going fancy,

(35:33):
I'm not going finesse. I'm going physical. And you watch
it against the Raiders JK. Dobbins, Joe Alt. So, I
think what we're having is in a cyclical world. We
live it in sports. It is moving back toward Hey,
all these linebackers that weigh two hundred and twenty five
pounds and can run run over them, can't run away
from them, run over them. And so this is why
I love football. This is why I love sports. It's

(35:55):
constantly evolving. It's a small ball league, It's a big
ball league. Jangles, what everybody talks about in baseball? Now,
get the ball in the air.

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Speaker 1 (37:05):
So something I've thought a lot about why the men,
especially coaches, have such a hard time copying. Like I
watch guys that go in like Jim Harbaugh. Everywhere he
goes immediately it works. He builds a culture. He's the

(37:25):
best culture builder in American football. Saban's retired, Belichick's gone,
he's the best. And Chargers when they're opening game their
defense with the same dudes totally revamped, he goes and
gets a right tackle Joe Alt, who was eleven for
eleven against Max Crosby, one of the best pass rushers

(37:45):
in football. And I think what Harbad does. It's not schemes,
because I've had multiple friends on his staff. It's culture.
He builds toughness and belief and it's a great example.
So they're going to Carol I need to play this week,
and then then they would have to fly back to
LA and go out to Pittsburgh. And Harbaugh said, no, no, no, no, no,

(38:06):
We're just gonna We're gonna bring the board games and
the snacks, and we're gonna stay out east. And that
is Harbaugh. And he's done this multiple times. He did
this in San Francisco, So it's not an ideal situation.
We have flycross country. NFL doesn't love their teams doing that.
So he just said, hey, bring the board games, guys,
we're gonna it's gonna be like training camp. We're going east.
We're not coming back for two weeks. And I don't

(38:27):
know why more teams don't do this. It's just coaches
have this thing about it's like their way and my style.
You know, if I ever had to replace Jim Harbaugh,
I would be like, whatever he's doing, we're gonna do
more of it. Like this, do what he's doing. Coaches
don't like to do that. They bring in their own
sensibility and style. But I mean they have Last year,

(38:49):
this was the worst defense in the league. It was
the worst culture in the league. I mean, the team
almost had a mutiny before the end of the season.
They got rid of the coach. They had to. They
lost the locker room. They're one game in. Everybody's all
in one camp. One game they're all in, and you
start looking at this schedule, win over the Raiders, they're
gonna beat Caroline. I would imagine they should beat Pittsburgh. Okay,

(39:11):
Kansas City's tough, but they get them at home. There
are a lot of dou ws here. I mean, we
said before the season. J McK and I both felt
this had a chance. We both felt this had a
chance to be an eleven win team. We didn't think
that was hyperbolic. We thought eleven. You know, you get
into thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. I don't think they have the
firepower They're going to have to get in some shootouts
in this league. I don't think they have the firepower

(39:32):
to do that. But you start looking at the Chargers
and there's a lot of wins there. There are a
lot of do ws there, and what you see with
Herbert and Harball because it's a coach quarterback league. Early
success makes selling your culture easier. Early success makes makes
all this stuff. It's much easier to buy into a

(39:53):
culture with doubles. And I didn't think they played a
perfect football game against the Raiders, but the Raiders kind
of uglead it up. But they were the more aggressive team.
They ran the ball better. I know it sounds crazy
to think you can be as bad as you were
last year and eleven twelve win team because it is
overwhelmingly outside of a new little slot receiver and a

(40:15):
right tackle, it's the same roster. It is all the
same dudes. It's just harb On his guys, same players
for a team. Last year, they lost the opener, got
into a crazy shootout against I think it was Miami,
led lost the lead. They lost leeds all last year.
It's amazing why more people don't copy him. It works,
It works instantly. San Diego Niners, Michigan Chargers, bring the

(40:39):
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