Tom Brady, Dak Prescott, Sam Darnold, and Cam Newton

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Joy Taylor is back. I never asked where she goes,
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found out she had a great time. I'm not saying okay,
I'm back now, so you're back. I'm back, yes, officially

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back this this coming up weekend, we got college football.
We're ready to go. It's football season. Officially. I want
to start my show today on a Monday with this
is that when you've had power forever, it's very hard
to surrender it. And football's always been a controlling sport.
The general manager controls the players, and the head coach

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controls the players, and there's no guaranteed contracts. And if
you do something wrong, you are out of here. The
NBA has got guaranteed contracts one or two star players
can change a franchise in a city in commerce forever.
So the NBA coach has never felt all powerful. The
NBA general managers never felt all powerful. So it's much

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easier for Steve Kerr to relinquish power, much harder for
a football coach. But it's coming, and this is fascinating.
So when I say team with Tom Brady, you think Patriots.
When I say Russell Wilson team, you think Seahawks. When
I say Aaron Rodgers team, you think Packers. But when

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I say Lebron James team, you know what I think
of Maverick Carter, Chris Paul, the guys he runs with,
and you know whoever the team is currently. And that's okay.
That's the way it should be for superstars. We have
no problem giving Lebron James or any NBA star latitude.

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He's got a trainer that travels with him, he's got
an agent that travels with him, he's got a marketing
shoe guy that travels with him, and he's got his
best friend that travels with him. He's his confidante inner
circles tight. It's his team wow problem. That's been happening
for thirty years. But in the NFL, Alex Guerrero a
career extending trainer, wildly respected around the league. Tom's opening

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a clinic. Players want to be in the clinic. The
fact that he now travels with Tom Brady again. Brady
goes on a local Boston radio station w EEI this morning.
They don't want to talk about the Patriots. They don't
want to talk about the wide receivers, they don't want
to talk about football. What is it with Alex Guerrero?
We saw the reports this weekend that Alex was on

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the team plane, which he wasn't for the second half
of last year, I guess, and not on the sideline.
Is that accurate? Yeah? He was with me this last week,
so it was Yeah, what changed him not being on
the team plane last year and this year? You know,
I don't want to I'm not getting into all that, Okay.
When I ran in him at the Super Bowl last
year Minneapolis and I talked to him there, he had said,
in his opinion that all this stuff had been overblown,

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that he in Belichick actually had a pretty good relationship
even then, would you say that was true? I'm said,
they don't want to get into it. Okay, go ahead, Evan, Yeah,
I mean everyone knows it's well documented. How you know
the work that he and I do together? No, I know?
I no, no, yeah, no, I understand that. I'm just
trying to figure out because I saw the reports this
weekend that he's traveling with the team. Was he on
the sideline Friday? Yeah? All right, guys, have a great day.

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I'll talk to you later. Oh, there he goes this morning.
Hung up on him. The question is not that he
hung up on him. Why are we so hung up
on Tom Brady having as eighteen years, eight super Bowls,
world's greatest football player in the last two decades. He's
hanging up because we're hung up on Alex Guerrero. By

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the way, Finally, I've been pleading about this for several years.
Quarterbacks take control of your career. Finally Tom Brady's like, yeah,
this guy makes me last longer. I'm gonna I'm gonna
travel with him. Check Aaron Rodgers, this franchise, Taggart's garbage.
I'm trapped for five years, he says it. Check Kirk Cousins. No,

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I'm not going to sign with Washington. You didn't give
me the respect I deserve to win a bunch of games.
I'm out of here. I'm gonna be a free agent,
and I'm gonna put myself on the market. Check. This
is exactly what I've been preaching for years. Why is
it okay? When I say Lebron's team? I think of
his guys, his friends, his confidants, those he respects and trusts,

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his agent, maybe a marketing guy, maybe a high school buddy.
That's his team. He's the best player in the world.
I'm good with the team. But if Tom Brady says
that whoa whoa, tom Brady's hired of answering to something
as the greatest football player in America should be an
absolute understanding. This is not a SPA treatment. It's not

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me going to you know, the Marriott and getting a SPA.
It is a career extending element to his career. He
has every right to do this. I mean, Tom Brady
is not a guy we can question. Tom Brady's not
like you know, he's just pampered. He's an egomaniac. He's
not a team guy. Opposite opposite, opposite of what I

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just said. So this is really interesting to me is
that in our football culture in America, we bristle at
the idea of Kirk Cousins saying no to a team
and Aaron Rodgers saying the franchise tag is garbage, and
Tom Brady saying I'm traveling with a trainer. When the
Lakers signed KCP a couple of years ago, remember literally,

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Rob Polenka, the Laker gam came up on the podium,
and remember what happened? Who he mentioned twice? Remember who
he mentioned twice? Here's the audio. I would venture to
guess there's people in the room that are familiar with
the stories in the Book of Genesis where there was
a time when the Israelites were wandering in the desert

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and all of a sudden bread came down from heaven.
That's kind of what today feels like for us to
have ksep joined. As Magic said too, I think Rich
Paul and Farah from Clutch are here today. I think
just their understanding of sort of the free agent market
and cap space and all of the things that come

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into play. When Rich texted me and said, hey, I
see you and Magic have been really, really careful with
your space. You're being very patient. Yeah, let's talk. It
was like, you know, a lightning bolt hit us, and
we said, yes, this has to be our focus. We
got to find a way. Look who is sitting closest
to the GM of the Lakers. It wasn't a player.

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It was part of Lebron's team. Because KCP is represented
by Rich Paul, part of Lebron's team. When you say KCP,
everybody in the league knows, oh, that's part of Lebron's
team clutch Sports. He represents them. So we have a
player in the NBA who literally can move players around

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to other teams. Would you be upset if Tom Brady
had an agent group that move players into the Patriots?
Why would you be upset with that? That's what Lebron does.
Why can't Aaron Rodgers create Packer Clutch Sports and move
players into the Packers that he represents. Why are we
letting NBA guys do this? But we're outraged by NFL

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guys traveling with a trainer. I don't get it, never
have and I am pro four one hundred percent behind
franchise quarterbacks have I don't know an eighth of the power.
Russell Wilson changed the city of Seattle. He deserves as

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much power as otto porter of the Washington Wizards. I'm sorry,
crazy me tom Brady hung up because we're hung up
on Tom Brady ridiculous. You know I was thinking about
this is that my stepfather passed away yesterday. I was
a handful in high school, but he was my little

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league coach and a very good man and became a
really interesting influence in my life. Now. We weren't close.
He and my mom eventually broke up, but at her funeral,
I made sure when I saw my stepdad to mention
something to him, and I said, I really appreciated how
you stabilize my family. I'm just one of those kids
in America. There's a lot of them that come from
divorce and you know your life's going left and right

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and everywhere. And my stepdad at the time Irvan Hermann,
who passed away yesterday, and again we weren't close at
the end. I'm not trying to make it into something
it wasn't. He did stabilize my family, and I've always
had great appreciation for people who can stabilize things. People
can have ceilings I'm okay with it, but stabilization is
a real thing. It's why I've always defended Doc Rivers

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of the Clippers. They were a grease fire for forty years.
He has stabilized them. And why I've always defended Marvin
Lewis of the Bengals. They were an embarrassment for four decades.
He stabilized them. That's why I've defended Doc. And every
time I hear Doc's gonna get fired, Marvin's gonna get fired,
I'm like, no, no no, no, no, what were they before
they arrived? So did you watch the Cowboys last night?

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Eight turnovers? Do you know the last time they looked
like that? When Tony Romot got hurt before they drafted
Dak Prescott. That's what they looked like, Colin. They were
playing with backups last night. Yeah, so is Arizona. Arizona's
backups didn't have eight turnovers. This is what I've said
about Dak Prescott, Zeke Fire, des fire. J Ari's always

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making noise. Biggest brand in the league since Dak Prescott
has arrived with the loudest franchise in America, not football franchise,
loudest sports franchise in North America is the Dallas Cowboys. Joy.
He has started thirty two games legit starts. They have
not only won twenty two of thirty two, but of

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the remaining ten, they have been in the game for
five of ten one possession. Now, they did have a
really really ugly three game stretch. Yeah, that was when
they lost Shawn Lee for two games Zeke because of
his legal action and the best left tackle in football
in fifteen years, Tyron Smith was out and all by
the way they lost at Atlanta. They're pretty good against

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the Eagles, super Bowl champs, and the LA Chargers, who
if they had a kicker one of one thirteen games
last year. Dak Prescott is the great stabilizer. Okay, as
a kid, my stepdad could drive me crazy. My dad
was a doctor, that's what you have to be, and
my stepdad was more blue collar. But you know what,

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there is real value in stabilizing families. My dad had
his issues. My stepdad may have had a ceiling in
my eyes as a kid, but boy, he was my
little league coach. He was there, no late night screaming.
It was really quiet in the house. And I had
a really awesome high school. Got to be quarterback. I

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remember my high school years very fondly going home, food
in the table, no yelling, screaming, really stable. Stabilization's a
real thing. The Cowboys, when Romo got hurt before Dak arrived,
were a mess, or in other words, they were last night.

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This is the biggest, loudest, at times, most dysfunctional, hard
to manage brand there is. You know, when people used
to bang on Joe Torrey of the Yankees, I used
to say, you do get the Yankees in the eighties
and Steinbrenner, he walked into that room with a Rod
and Jeter and I mean Clemens and the Yankees. They

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kind of had a weird, strange, blue collar farmer, do
your work, head down, low key. It was like all
the circus stuff was Steinbrenner breathing down your neck. It
kind of evaporated. Joe Torrey was a nine to five
show up, do your job. Everybody, get along as well
as we can. Not a lot of noise in the clubhouse. Listen.

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I'd never thought Dak is cam talented, or Breeze accurate
or Rogers rifle armed. But I gotta tell you something,
when I look at the Cowboys and I watched them
last night. I'm like, yeah, that's what they look like.
Pre Dak thirty two starts, twenty two wins, five one
possession losses, and five other losses. He had a bad

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three game stretch when the city, the team, the organization,
the old line, the running back, and the wide receiver
caught fire. I'm good and I continue to think Dak,
we don't understand his real value, a value that's often
overlooked in a lot of people. We are loaded today.
We are loaded today. You know how people will say

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this from time to time, Colin, you know you're different
now that you used to be at the other place.
You've changed. And to that I always say, well, thank you.
I hope. So new information coming in and I'm gonna
flip flop or maybe just evolve on something I saw
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a Monday, Joy Taylor is joining me. Got her Miami
Dolphin colors all ready to go. As the NFL season
is getting close, I got my Seahawks stuff on a
little bit of a home er. I admit that from
the Pacific Northwest, where we're wearing our hall I just
noticed we're wearing our home colors today. Maybe it's subliminal,
but we're getting close to the NFL season. Shannon Sharp's
on in ten minutes, Albert Breer today, all sorts of
good stuff. So I say this from time to time,

(15:13):
is that you'd want your doctor if you had new
information and you were going into surgery or your kids were,
you'd want the doctor to use the new information. If
you had a stockbroker in the stockbroker says insiders are trading.
The CEO of that company just traded off shares, You'd
be like, oh, new information, get me out of that stock.
We always seek new information if it helps us. But

(15:34):
with a sportscaster or if I have a new opinion
due to new information, it's like, WHOA, you're flip flopping. No,
I'm not flip flopping. I have new information. I do
my homework. It's the way I looked at all these
rookie quarterbacks, Joy and I disagree with this. I am
buying large a believer in let them start the year
on the bench watching and depending on their talent, start

(15:56):
them after a month, start them by Thanksgiving, start them
at the end, but let them kind of develop. You know,
you have fewer OTA's. You know, the way the world works,
there's no huddles. Now football it's harder than ever for
a quarterback, right and college football doesn't even look like
pro football at the quarterback position. But I'm watching Sam

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Darnald and I'm thinking to myself. Initially my opinion was
Teddy Bridgewater's better, should start and then bring Sam in
off a bye week Thanksgiving. And you know, I'm watching
now and I still think Teddy Bridgewater this second is better.
But it's so close. I think you're better to start

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Sam Darnald and move Teddy and get a second round
pick and a starting right tackle, and it's just time.
The gap is not big enough. On a scale of
one to ten, ten being Tom Brady in one being
a college quarterback. If Teddy Bridgewater's a six point eight,
Darnald to me looks like a six point three or

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a six point four. I still think Teddy's slightly more
ready to win a game this year. But boy, it's close.
And if I can get a couple of pieces to
help Sam, I think you just do it. When I
watched Flacco and Lamar, I see a big gap. When
I watch Bradford and Rosen, I see a smaller gap,
but still a gap. When I see Tyrod and Baker,

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I see a gap. But what Darnald and Teddy? How
he has closed that gap in like three weeks? I
still like Teddy, But if he's done this in three weeks,
what can he do in five weeks, six weeks, nine weeks?
And Teddy can get you real players? Teddy bridgewatchers a
starter in this league. You can get stuff for Teddy Bridgewater.

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You can get You can get a starter somewhere on
your team and a good draft pick. Don't I think
the gap? I think Teddy's better now, But I think
the gap is closing. Sam Jarnald again looked very very good.
I saw a story this morning where Jets players quote
expect Sam to start. The players now see it in practice,
they see it in games. By the way, this is

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what I do as a parent, joy all the time.
I'm not seeking perfection with Sam Donald. I'm not seeking
with my rookie quarterbacks perfection. But once my kids are
mature enough that I can leave with my wife overnight
and they don't burn the house down, then I go
with my wife down to you know, Laguna for a

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night or Malibu, right. I know my kids still can't
handle a burglar breaking in, but they won't light the
house on fire. Therefore, I feel good enough for a
night to leave, go golf, go hang out, go spend time,
go do something, and leave them in control of the
house for sixteen hours. But I know they can't handle

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a burglary. I know Sam Donald can't single handedly beat Philadelphia.
I know Sam Donald can't go up against Damic and
Sue and Aaron Donald and the ram Secondary and torch it.
But I'm not looking for that. He is now mature
enough that Teddy Bridgewater can leave and go away and
Sam won't burn the house down. And I think you

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can really get some nice pieces with Teddy Bridgewater. So crazy,
crazy me, I've changed my opinion, But I got new information,
and the gap with Teddy and Sam has closed really,
really quickly. Here's a play from the weekend Durtal pump throw.
Of course it's prior the angle. Turrell tire sneaks in

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for the touchdown. This is what I like about Darnell.
He's trying to get these tight ends on the double post,
but What he does is he goes to his alternative
when it's covered. Watch his eyes left. He wants the
double post, it's not there. He's got a plan. He
gets the ball to the underneath receiver and he get
a touchdown out of it. So again having an understanding,
having a pre snap idea of what potentially could happen,

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and then follow him through with the alternative receiver. That's
a heck of a play. That's Jets color analyst Anthony Beckt.
Who's here a next hour, really smart guy, thirty five
minutes from now? Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong?
Shannon Sharp and ten, here's Joy with the news. No, no,
the news, this is the herdline news. So Andrew luck

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looked like his old self during the colts twenty three
seventeen win over the forty nine ers on Saturday, and
if it appears going to be an indication of his
confidence going into the twenty eighteen NFL season, sick lesson,
I'm not gonna lie to you. It's like I actually
feel very good and strong. My shoulder felt alive. I was,
I was. I was a little happier with where the

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ball went when I threw it. You know, I felt
like I felt like I had a little more of
a sense. Okay, you know, I want to back shoulder
this to Ryan, you know, on the sidelines. Okay, good,
it ended up where I wanted to know. I feel
way more confident. I feel like I proven my when
I said proven I think really to myself. Now, we've
talked a lot about there being too many preseason games

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and you don't feel like certain people should be playing
in the preseason. But do you like this for Andrew
lut Yeah? No, No, I actually do like Andrew's one
of the few guys I'd like to see him take
some snaps. I will tell you this. He doesn't quite
look the same. But I said this last week he's
gonna be good this year? Is he going to be good? Second?
Third year? When he took them single handedly to the

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AFC Championship? So I don't I think we should temper
a little bit. He literally had a lacerated kidney. Okay, So,
but I do feel like we are totally overlooking the
cult in the weaker AFC, and well, I think that's
probably part of just being conditioned to overlook them because
Andrew Luck has been out. We don't know what to
expect from him. And like you said, people are trying

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to temper their expectations of Andrew Luck coming back because
it is Andrew Luck at the end of the day.
But he's come back from a lot yep, but it's
good year that he's feeling confidence. So Jack's receiver Marquis
Lee suffered a terrible knee injury Saturday when the Falcons
safety to monte Kaze Jovis helmets into his knee. They
hit Drew, lowering the helmet penalty, but Lee's teammate Jalen

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Ramsey is blaming the rule book for the drake. You
can't be mad at two seven m. I kind of
gotta be mad at the NFL. I guess I don't.
I'm mad at him, but I mean, it's just how
the rule is. Like, people are scared to people are
scared to tackle normal I guess just because they think

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they're gonna get helmet to helmet ornything, they're gonna get flagged.
And now it's not even flagged. It's also you know,
potentially getting thrown out the game. Yeah. I don't know, man,
it's just tough, tough. I never want to see that
happened to one of my teammates period. But I already
I can't really glad to seven by the way he
keeps talking. But he hasn't been wrong in anything yet.

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You know what he's saying. Everybody blasted him last week out.
He's taking these opinions on quarterback. He wasn't wrong in
any of the stuff he said about the quarterbacks. I
don't think he's wrong on that. No, and Marquis Lee
will have surgery. He'll be placed on I ART today.
That's from the Jaguards official accounts. Although I mean you
could pretty much self from that hit that that was
really bad knee injury. Here's nate question about this now,

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this is like, this is why it's confusing to me.
So this is a penalty, this drew leading with the
head penalty. What are you supposed to lead with? Well,
if you're a safety on that play and I have
a receiver running running at me, it is four. We'll
good receiver. Okay, he's off to the races. Where do
I hit you? Well, I'm gonna I'm just trying to
figure out, like physically, what do you lead with? Are

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we are we tackling like elbow first now or I
just don't. I just don't understand it. They're hard to
bring down. You really have to sort this out before
this season gets started. I know we talked about it before,
like they're going to do and they're gonna call more
play more penalties now in the preseason and examine it
and figure out what is and what is not a penalty.
But I just physically, I don't understand what you're supposed

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to lead with there, what are supposed to do hug him?
Were like, please don't run past me. Maybe that'll work. Finally,
if Friday's Nights and any indication the Patriots still have
some work to do before the season kicks off. They
struggled a lot and their twenty five fourteen loss to
the Panthers, and Belichick had this to say after the game.
No Panthers obviously did a good job tonight, um, coach
of Vera's staff. Their team played well in all three

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phases of the game, and I've played us across the
door four quarters, so we got a lot of work
to do. Um, it wasn't but there wasn't any part
of the game that was very competitive. So just have
to go back to work and see if we can

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find a way to do a few things better than
we did in tonight. Always love a good sound bite
with all three phases of the game, and it's that
I'm telling you this New England receiving Corps in September.
No Julian Edelman, Philip Dorset. They're going to depend on him.
He was a marginal bust and Indie. I mean, I
know everybody loves Brady. I love Brady, I love Belichick,
but this is different this year. You're you're probably right,

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but I just can't. I cannot come around to doubt
in the Patriots yet. I've suffered with the Patriots for
too long. I'm just I'm not ready to write them
off yet. I get it. I get it. Bill's very
Bill's not convincing me of anything. He went back to
the room and out of Scotch, laughing at everybody panicking.
I mean, I'm just We've seen this so many times before,
I know, but it feels different. I've been on this

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for two months since April. This is their Eric Decker
retired their fourteenth receiver moves in Tapril third. It feels
it feels like Mayhem. It feels like it, but then
you remember that it's the Patriots, and then they go
win Super Bowl and you're just annoyed. It doesn't I
don't know. I don't feel this time it feels real.
Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see joy with the news. Well

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that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the third line.
One of the most decorated guys to ever play the game.
A Hall of Famer, he is at three times Super
Bowl champion, eight Pro Bowlers, many believe as good at
tight end as the sport ever gave a Shannon Sharpe
who only only I get him twice a year. That's it,
because he leaves undisputed and he goes and works out,

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and I get you twice a year. So let me
start with this, Brady Receivers. Are we freaking out or
are we looking at a ya where Chris Hogan is
the guy? Yeah, this is as bad as I've seen.
Is also calling you. I mean, three guys got cut.
Eric Decker was retired like two years ago. He just
didn't tell anybody till yesterday. He's what they call a

(26:16):
shot flip player. His body has failed him and he's
lost confidence. You watch him playing in the games, he's like,
I shouldn't be here. You're watching practice. They show clips
of practice. I shouldn't be here. I think they allowed
him to retire, to give him his dignity, because he
wasn't gonna make the squad. He was that bad. They
released Jordan Matthews, released Malcael Mitchell, Kenny Bread got released,
They traded Brandon Cooks. They can make all They make

(26:38):
all these moves because they believe Tom, with a healthy
Gronk and Chris Hogan, that will be enough. But man,
you're asking an awful lot from marginal players. Their marginal
at best. Those guys I mean Gronk. I believe Gronk
is the most dominant non quarterback in all of football,
regardless of position, defensive line, cornerback, wide not only given

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for ten games, you know he's gonna get nicked at
some point, even Chris Hogan, he normally misses time doing
the course of the year with an injury. But if
anybody can do it is these two, Tom Brady and
Coach Belichick. By the way, I said this, I have
never when I say team Lebron, I don't think Lakers
are Calves. I think of Maverick carter Ridge, Paul. I
totally back NBA players traveling with the agent, a confidante,

(27:24):
maybe a shoe marketing guy. But I say Brady and
Russell Wilson team, I think Patriot Seahawks. Right. Thomas said, hey, listen,
I am the greatest player of all time. I'm gonna
have a career extending trainer with me. And people are
freaking out, why is it that we I have? I

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am four quarterbacks, saying now the franchise tag is terrible.
I think the thing is what's different is that when
Maverick Carter, or Rich Paul or Randy Millams travel with Lebron,
he's not trying to recruit other players. They look at
Alex Guerrero and the Patriots team staff. If they say
we didn't want you to ice for twenty minutes and
Guerrero says, nah, unionally only ice for ten, there's where

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the conflict comes in. If he's only gonna work with
Tom or the guys he's working in. But guys, I
believe this is me. I haven't talked to anybody. I
believe other guys were going, well, I see what he's
doing for Tom, I see what he's doing for Gronk
will let me go get a second opinion. And so
now we're paying the training staff millions of dollars and
they're going outside to a guy that's not trained through

(28:29):
the traditional methods of school orthopedics and they're getting their
advice from him. I think that's where the problem came
in at. But I don't have a problem either, because
normally what happens is that you find somebody that's really good,
you recommend him, a lot of guys start using him,
and he does travel with the team. We had one
endeavor that did the very same thing. But I think

(28:49):
that's the biggest different colin If Randy Mims and Richie
Paul were traveling and that's Lebron's team and they started
trying to recruit, I think there in lives would be
a problem that the team would have and is like, nah,
I think we need to So I said this is
I grew up in a family of chaos, so my
stepfather came in and stabilized it. And I've always believed

(29:12):
that not everybody can be you. Okay, not everybody's gonna
be a Hall of Famer, but there are people that
enter our lives. It can be an aunt, an Ungal
a coach that stabilizer room. Yes, and there's real value.
The Cowboys pre Dak were a mess and the Cowboys
are the loudest, most distracted brand in a North American

(29:35):
sports Last night, Dak doesn't play. Now, I know what
was backups. That's what they look like before Dak. Right, Okay,
I'm not saying Dak is great, But in thirty two starts,
twenty two wins, five one possession losses, are we undervaluing
Dak on what he is doing with? I got Zeke,
I had Deaz, I got Jerry Boy. He looks like

(29:56):
a stabilizing force. When he doesn't play, they're a mess. Yeah,
everybody can't a quarterback, and everybody can't play quarterback for
a high profile team. And the thing is, although they
were out there were without Dak. You look at what
Dad's gonna be throwing too. I don't know how much
better it's gonna get when he gets in there. I mean,
Michael Gallup, we're gonna be counting. You don't Dallas this year.
I'm not I'm not on. I think their defense can

(30:17):
be really good, but their offense is gonna be predicated
on Zeke. How many can Zeke rush for eighteen hundred
plus yards. That's what it's gonna take for the Cowboys
to be good. Those receivers, those who's the tight end.
I think I can. I might can make the squad
at tight ends. I'm fifty with a bad name, and
I think I might make the Cowboys at tight end.
So you know you're not as big on Dak as
I am. No, um no, because I think everything is

(30:40):
really predicated on Zeke. He had an opportunity to show
me that he can do all. I'm fine without it.
You see these top quarterbacks, Tom Brad, I don't care
if I got a running game, Ben, I don't care
if I got a running game, Breeze or Rogers. These
guys that can take that next step. And that's what
you say when they say they're gonna make the offense
more Dak friendly, they're saying, we're gonna ask you to
turn around and hand the ball off to Zeke. We're

(31:00):
gonna ask you to get Zeke more involved in the
passing game because he doesn't throw the ball down the field.
That's not his expertise. Well, they're gonna shorten the field.
It's like, well, you're not gonna throw it over our head.
So we're gonna play close to the line of scrimmage.
We're gonna they're gonna try to take Zeke away. They're
gonna make this young man beat them throwing the football
and see if he can beat them throwing the football
over the top. Shannon Sharp fourteen years, eight Pearl Bowls,

(31:24):
three rings, gold jacket. Guy, Okay, I'm gonna name um.
I'm gonna name a quarterback battle, and you tell me
who should start in? Y Okay, Trod, Taylor Baker Mayfield?
Who starts in? Why, I'm gonna say Tyrod, because I
believe this team is ready to win right now. It's
hard for a rookie to come in and start winning
right away unless everything is in place. Now, you get

(31:47):
Ben didn't start right away. Tommy Maddis got hurt the
first game, and then Ben came in and they baby
sat him for about six games. But they were loaded
at every position. Defense was ready to go sound running
game hins, so they were they were straight across the board,
I believe, and plus they want one in thirty one
over the past two season. Hugh Jackson doesn't have the

(32:07):
luxury of going oh in three or in four with
a rookie quarterback, because that means Greg Williams Todd Haley
is going to finish the rest of the season. Now
Hugh knows that. So I believe ty Rod will start,
start Sam Donald, Teddy Bridgewater who starts in wine, Well,
looking at it now, I think Sam Donald will start.
You gotta ten I think he got ten million guaranteed,

(32:29):
and Josh McCown, I don't know if somebody's gonna take
that contract. Teddy Bridgewater is only five billion dollars and
he has value. You can get something for Teddy Bridge. Question.
The question is that I have for Teddy Bridgewater. With
his injury history and concussion history, how good can he be?
The guy missed basically two years and he has a
history of concussions, So how good can he be? I
haven't seen him long term, but I haven't seen him

(32:50):
play consistently for a year or two. That's so that's
the problem that teams are gonna be up against. Yeah,
he throws the ball. I mean, he's been unbelievable in
the preseason, but you realized he was a starter, and
sometimes he's playing against guys they'll be coaching in about
a week. Finally, John Gruden, I suspect this could be
a mess. Shannon Sharp thinks I agree. I don't think

(33:13):
everybody will will Gruden is you know this and the
quarterback whisper I just ten years is a long time
to be away from something in football. It's hard for me.
It's hard for me to believe that a surgeon can
be away, does no surgery for ten years and just
go right back in and pick back up. It's just
hard for me to believe. There's I said this silicon
valleys like this. Tech changes every year. Yes, football changes

(33:36):
every two years. There are you know, the post office
today looks like the post office ten years ago. There
are industries that don't change. That's why people don't use
it too. Newspapers, yes, they look the same as twenty
years ago. But football, I mean there's no there's no
huddles anymore. No, and there's really no fullback. Everybody to
play bases out of three wide receivers at one tight

(33:56):
end on the running back. The fullback is is an
ice or it's a relic. Things. Things are so are
so different now. The way you the way you meet,
the way you practice, the way you attack, the quarterback.
Now they got this helmet rule. Things have changed so much.
I mean in the last two years, Shannon, players are

(34:17):
more empowered now. Oh yeah, ten years ago, if a
coach in the NFL came in said no politics understood.
If a coach came in and said no politics, half
the room's like, well, I got an opinion on politics. Right.
The world's changed, right, absolutely, Yeah, it's a different time now,
and everybody feels that they have a voice. Everybody's feeling embolding. Sure,
well you think it's changed. You let players get guaranteed

(34:38):
contracts like they get in basketball, like they get in baseball.
That's why basketball players and they say, well, why basketball
players will take on issues that football players can because
Steph Curry is getting all two hundred and five million
up billions dollars and the guy in football has signed
for one hundred million. He's only gonna get that forty
fully guaranteed money, and those guys don't want to risk that.

(34:59):
I love having you on a little being on. Do
you remember two years ago before Undisputed start, you came
on this couch that was almost three years ago, three
years ago, and I said to management, get him a
show fast. I love what you've done. I love having
you on. Thanks for having I really appreciate you speaking
up for me behind the scenes. A lot of people
don't know that, but I know what you did for me.
I appreciate it. Shannon Sharp undisputed back in a second,

(35:20):
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Sharp on the show at the top of the hour.
Where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, plenty of both,
and Albert Brere will join us live. Tom Brady hung

(35:42):
up on the local radio station, the Patriot Station this morning,
the Alex Guerrero stuff. I think Tom feels a little stress.
I think I don't think this wide receiving core is
working out like they thought. They're leaning heavily on Philip Dorset,
who I think is a borderline bust in indianapole Us.
It's a mess. I think it's a mess. I think

(36:02):
Tom's holding it together, but it's a mess, and he
got frustrated this morning. You know, I was thinking about
this today. I love the NBA. In fact, one of
the criticisms I get is you talk too much NBA,
but it's a star driven league. I think Lebron Lakers
for the first time in my life, I'll talk NBA
in October late October. I never do that. I usually
do six months of football, you know, and then I
move into NBA in April. But you know, this year

(36:25):
it's going to be different. Lebron to the Lakers is
going to capture the league. And I think we've got,
you know, some really good stories. But the difference between
the NBA and the NFL is hope. Listen, there are
two overwhelming favorites to win the NBA championship, Golden State.
It would be shocking if they didn't win. But I
do think Boston and Houston are good enough to challenge them.

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We saw Houston do that in a series. Kyrie Irving,
Gordon Hayward joined those young Celtics with Brad Stevens certainly
good enough to challenge him. So Golden State empirically is
the team, and I think we have two real challengers.
And then after that it's a bunch of teams, you know, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Lakers, Utah,
Oklahoma City, Toronto, maybe San Antonio. They're interesting, but they're

(37:12):
not really titled contenders. Nobody thinks Milwaukee's gonna win the championship.
That would be shocking. It would be shocking if Toronto
not only beat the Celtics but then beat the Warriors,
that would be shocking. You can be interesting, but there's
three team. It wouldn't be shocking. If Houston with Carmelo Anthony,
Chris Paul, James Harden, wouldn't be shocking. If in seven

(37:35):
games they won Game seven in Houston. Golden States showing
fatigue in the last year wouldn't be shocking. Okay, think
about the NFL. Let's just look at the NFC. I
have no idea who's gonna win the NFC none. My
choice right now is Atlanta. I think they're probably the

(37:56):
most underrated team in the league. We forget they were
in Philadelphia, had beaten the Rams in LA, traveled home
to Atlanta. Then they went up to Philadelphia and had
with a minute left, fourth and nine, fourth down on
the nine yard line, Julio Jones hands on the ball
of the end zone best receiver arguably after Antonio Brown
in the league. Had the ball dropped the ball, they
win and they would have gotten to the Super Bowl
because Minnesota came off the miracle win and was flat

(38:18):
the next week. But I think Philadelphia has the best roster,
So Atlanta's my pick to meet Philadelphia and the NFC championship.
But after that, Rams, Saints, Packers inches away. Now, I
would not be shocked if the Vikings because their rosters
fantastic and their coaches really good, and Kirk Cousins has
probably better Oh yes he is by a long Shotover

(38:40):
case keenom. But there are six teams in the NFC.
I would not be the least at all shocked if
they made the Super Bowl. I'm not even mentioning teams.
I kind of like like Dallas Carolina. I like I
like them. Carolina's front seven is low dead and Cam's
already been to one Suoner Bowl. Ron River's already been
to Winson Bowl in Dallas. I don't know old line's healthy,

(39:03):
best online in the game, ze best running back arguably
the kind of like them. All right, let's go to
the AFC. Okay, I have the Steelers as winning the AFC,
even though I don't like the Patriots current momentum with
wide receivers, they do have the best coach in quarterback
in sports. The Chargers at eighteen to one, are the
best Super Bowl bet by a mile. They have two
elite pass rushers, an elite safety now an elite corner,

(39:25):
and Hayward Mike Williams, their number one pick at wide receiver,
got hurt a year ago. Oh my, he's back and
he looks really good to go along with Keenan Allen.
They have a great running back Melvin Gordon, Hall of
Fame quarterback, good left tackling center. They're really good. Houston
Kansas City rosters loaded, and Baltimore is my right now

(39:45):
best team in the league that nobody gets. Of all
the teams I've seen in preseason AFI NFC, the team
that looks significantly better than I predicted two months ago
is Baltimore. These are the Super Bowl contenders. Let me
line them up in in the NFL. I would not
be shocked if any of those teams were in the
Super Bowl. I wouldn't be I mean, Chargers are eighteen

(40:06):
to one. Wouldn't be shocked. Chargers have a better roster
right now than New England. New England doesn't have two
elite pass rushers. New England doesn't have two receivers as
good as Mike Williams and Keenan Allen. New England doesn't
have a left tackle as good as Russell lo'coon. I'm
not sure New England has a running back as good
as Melbourne Gordon. But in the NBA, here are the

(40:26):
title odds. Golden State overwhelming favorite, and you would I would,
we would all be shocked. Of the six teams, Vegas
gives a chance to win. Wouldn't we be shocked? If
Toronto got to the finals and be Golden State, wouldn't
we be shocked. I'm gonna go with they're not getting

(40:46):
past Boston. They're not getting past Golden State. Folks, nobody
sells hope like the NFL. Nobody sells hope. We know
in the NBA we got three teams that can win it.
We know in college football we got about five. And
I love college football and I love the NBA, but

(41:07):
we got we have look at all these teams in
the NFL. The NFC is absurd, It is stacked. I
have Minnesota as my sixth best NFC team, and there's
a lot of people that think outside of the Rams,
they have the best NFC roster, and we know they

(41:28):
have a capable coach and a capable quarterback. Where Colin
was right, where Colin was wrong. Hope is a real thing.
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(41:50):
in however you may be listening live in Los Angeles, iHeartRadio,
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What a lively stour, Shannon Sharp, stop by, Yes, Albert
Breer in five minutes and you're starting to come come
over to my side. I am sorry, sorry, it's okay.
Starting to believe that a rookie quarterback can play well.

(42:12):
We do it every week at this time all year.
You used to do just do it in the football season,
but people liked it so much they said, do it more.
We do. In the last week, I've whipped and sometimes
I've been spot on where Colin was right, Where Colin
was wrong, Where Colin was right, been on this for years.
The preseason is too long, and you should never play stars. Well,

(42:32):
what do you know if you watched the Rams, they
won't play any of their good players. Have you watched
the Cowboys? They won't play any of their good players.
The NFL preseason should be two games, and for anybody
in this league longer than three years, you should not
have to play in it. Just increase joint practices. If
college football with seventeen eighteen nineteen year olds cannot have

(42:54):
a preseason and have an nc DOUAA limited practice schedule,
with no joint practice, with no tas where you got
mid terms in classes, and yet Notre Dame Michigan will
play a week from today and look really, really fine.
Let's limit it. I have been saying for years. Coaches
take control of the preseason, don't risk your stars, and
certain teams, like the Rams, they don't even have an

(43:17):
interest in playing their best players. Where Colin was raw,
Andy Dalton for years has been in my crosshairs. They
call him the red Rifle, and for years I call
him the beige water pistol. But you know what, he
looked great yesterday. He's looked great in the preseason. When
you stack him up with a lot of these young quarterbacks,
he looks so refined Listen, He's been in the NFL
seven years, he's sixty three, forty four and two. Now

(43:40):
he can't beat Big Ben. Well, guess what? Not a
lot of people are okay outside of Tom Brady, who
do you feel good against when they faced Big Ben? Listen,
there was a time that I thought he was overrated.
But now I look at Andy Dalton, and I look
at a lot of these teams, looking at rookie quarterbacks
and a lot of these bottom third teams in the NFL,
and you know who's better than all of them? Andy Dalton,

(44:03):
with an eighty nine passer rating, five playoff appearances seven years,
won sixty three and lost forty two. I'm retiring forever
beige water pistol. He is a poised, albeit limited franchise quarterback,
but he has become a poised, refined, respectable franchise quarterback.
Where Colin was right. I told you coming in, I

(44:25):
didn't care where Sam Darnold went. He looked the part
of a number one quarterback, and boy has he He's
bigger than Baker Mayfield. He looks more poised than Baker Mayfield.
I don't want to hear excuses that Jets have a week,
old line, no tight ends, and no running backs. Cleveland
at least has a great young running back and a
star slot wide receiver, and they paid some money for

(44:47):
their old line. Okay, Darnold looks the part. Okay, against
the first team of the Giants. Seven first downs, touchdowns
against the first team defense twice, and that's not a
terrible Jets Giants defend. There's players two touchdowns. He has
looked the part. He looks big enough, mobile enough, will
find enough, strong enough. He got the slide down, which

(45:10):
he wasn't great out in college. That's what a number
one picks had looked like, regardless of who went number one,
where Colin was row. I've been a big supporter through
the years of urban Meyer, the Ohio State coach, but
I got to be honest after the last couple of weeks.
He looks like an enabler that struggles with the truth.
He did at Florida and he did at Ohio State.

(45:32):
And the gap between Nick Saban and urban Meyer is
the Grand Canyon. It seems a mile wide. Finally, on Friday,
urban Meyer released a press statement which I agreed with. Finally,
on Friday, he admitted, yeah, I sort of butchered this
and that I wasn't as thoughtful as I should have been. Listen,
I always thought Urban Meyer, I always kind of held

(45:53):
him and Nick Saban as somewhere better than college football,
capable of winning the NFL. But I gotta be honest.
I think of urban Meyer now and it's different. And
it bums me out because for years and years ioways
considered him actually every bit or better at times than Saban.
And it doesn't feel like that today. He feels like
somebody who can struggle with the truth where Colin was right. Listen,

(46:18):
the Patriots wide receiver group, I'm sorry, it is different
this year. Kenny Brett, Eric Decker fourteen moves, fourteen moves
since April. You're gonna tell me. Last year they had
Brandon Cooks. Last year, I got a kid named Mitchell. Everybody, like,
I'm telling you right now, I'm not here to be hyperbolic,

(46:41):
but Julian Edelman will not play in September. There's a
reason Tom Brady is snipping with everybody on wei. He
sees what's going on. This is different, this is not Listen,
the San Antonio Spurs dynasty did not fall off a
cliff it's slightly eroded. This feels like this feels like

(47:01):
Duncan retires. Spurs make the playoffs, but they're just not
dynamic enough to beat the really good teams, especially in
the NFC. Where Colin was right, Josh Allen I told
you coming in he was more project than prospect. Well,
this weekend he finally faced the number one defense, and
where Darnald looked smooth, he looked awful. He was overwhelmed

(47:27):
by Cincinnati eighty one yards of offense, sacked six or
seven times. He held the ball too long. Now again,
I'm not saying their offensive line was great, but he
misfired on open passes six of twelve thirty four yards.
He does not look like a starter. And again, a
lot of these guys against twos. Sam Darnald did it

(47:48):
this weekend against ones and had back to back scoring drives.
You're like, oh, that's a starting quarterback. Sam Darnald's gonna struggle.
He's not gonna be completely utterly, springing a leak and drowning.
Allen looked like a college quarterback. He was. He looked
terrified by the end. Where Colin was wrong. When Andy

(48:09):
Reid traded up to get Patrick Mahomes, I'm like, oh,
good lord, here comes another big arm guy man that kid.
Preseason passer rating one h three to five. That's against ones,
completion percentage seventy two percent. That's against ones. When he
and I love Andy Reid, he and I text regularly,

(48:30):
and I was like, oh, no, I'll be honest, he's
facing ones. He looks good, and he's spreading a ball
around to multiple players. He's not like a lot of rookies,
young guys. They glowm onto one or two guys. He's not.
He is spreading it all over the yard. Now I
see why they traded up to get him. He has

(48:52):
really looked a part where Colin was right. The helmet rule.
Only nine helmet rule calls last weekend. So what I
said I predicted was the NFL was gonna overcall it.
We were all gonna overreact, and then by the end
of preseason they were going to start pulling it back,
pulling it back. And also it shows that players now
have adjusted to the rule. So as predicted, the NFL

(49:15):
overcalled it. I have freaked out. You freaked out, the
world freaked out. Players, coaches adjusted and this week week
two to Week three, sixty four percent decline in helmet
rule calls. Listen, this is gonna take a while, but
the pattern has been what we predicted overcalled adjust by players.

(49:37):
This weekend when I watched games, it didn't freak me
out as much where Colin was right. You know last
year about mid season, Goolay can defend me on this
because he's a Cowboy lover. Last year I said at
the end of the year, I said, Cowboys defensive line
is going to be their next great offensive line. Is

(49:57):
anybody watching the Cowboys defensive line? Did you see him
against Arizona? Now? The Cowboys were awful? David Irving, Taco
Charlton DeMarco, Lawrence, Randy Gregory. Cowboys defensive lines a real thing.
It is a real thing. Their offensive line gets all
the love, and they got issues, by the way. Their
secondary's got issues. They got a bunch of young guys.
Their linebackers look talented, but we don't know how good

(50:18):
they are and if they can stay healthy. But I'm
telling you right now, I said at last mid season,
this has the potential in Dallas to be an elite,
top five defensive line. They are, they are fast, they
can move laterally they can run up field, they are long,
they are athletic, and again don't last night their offense

(50:41):
was a mess, but that defensive line was dominating, overwhelming
Arizona upfront, where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong,
and with that via the Coward Global Satellite Network, he's
at Buffalo today, Senior NFL reporter m MQB. All right,
Albert Breyer, Tom Brady up on WI this morning. Is

(51:02):
that you know, there's a lot of reasons. I could
say he's just getting tired of it these NFL franchise quarterbacks.
Look at the NBA guys. If an NBA guy traveled
with a trainer, nobody would care. Tom's the best quarterback
for fifteen years and he can't travel with Alex Guerrero.
That's kind of how I see. He's just frustrated with it.
What do you make of him blown up this morning
on radio? Well, and remember it's not the first time

(51:23):
this has happened. This summer. He did punt a ball
during practice, which got a fair amount of attention up
in New England, and so I think he's still sort
of working through some things. He didn't go to He
wasn't at any of the OTAs. Obviously, that's been a
sideways offseason and they're working through a lot of issues
on the offensive side of the ball. Now, Gronk's still there,
you still have a loaded back field, but that receiver

(51:44):
spot's going to be an issue going forward. And I
just make the argument now they're going to have to
find a different way to do it. We've seen in
the preseason they've used James White the running back as
a receiver a little bit more. You've seen Jacob Pollister,
a young kid they have out of Wyoming, being used
as a move tight end. And so I don't think
that there are answers in the receiver group. I think
they're going to have to find answers elsewhere. I think

(52:06):
Brady's shown a little frustration working through that. Yeah. I
mean I said this before, Dynasties don't fall off a cliff,
but you have. When I watched the Rams talent and
the Pittsburgh's talent in Philadelphia and Atlanta, you know, Albert,
at some point, systems alone can't win Super Bowls. You
have to be dynamic at some spot. I do feel
like Albert this year's different, that they're just not dynamic

(52:29):
enough at pass rusher or wide receiver. Am I overreacting? No,
I'd agree with that. I mean, I think you know
we said it last year. It was hard when you
looked at their roster to find a guy who was
under twenty five years old and was a cornerstone. In fact,
one of the guys you would have pointed to last
year at this time that was in that group is
Brandon Cooks, and he's gone and forever and ever and ever,

(52:50):
they've been able to get by because Tom Brady has
been their margin for error, I mean, beyond just Bill
Belichick in the system. Number twelve has always been able
to make it work. If you look back, you see
years when they went deep in the playoffs two thousand
and six as a prime example, where they've been torn
down at the skill positions and Brady has found a
way to make up for it. The question is, at
forty one years old, is he's still capable of doing it.

(53:11):
If he plays like he did at forty last year,
the league MVP and the Patriots will be all right.
But if he slips even a little bit, that margin
Freir isn't what it used to be. Sam Darnold, I
started the year saying Teddy's better and it's pretty noticeable.
And then I watched last week and I'm like, Okay,
Teddy may still be better. But at this point, I
think Sam's good enough to be viable, and I think

(53:35):
you may be able to get stuff on the open
market for Teddy like an offensive lineman. Most of these
rookie quarterback battles, I don't think the guys are ready. Boy,
Sam looks close Albert, doesn't He He sure does. And
you know what the coaches really liked from the last
preseason game. Go back and watch that first drive. We
know how good he is an improvising We know how

(53:56):
good he is off schedule. He was making plays from
the pocket, he was going through his greions, he was
doing things on schedule and going deep into his progressions
in Jeremy Bates offense, he showed a mastery of what
they're asking him to do. And that's a really important
piece here. Now. Of course, he's a rookie, so he's
going to be going through some different things. There are
two reasons that I'm going to give you why Sam
Darnad was equipped to play as a rookie quarterback in

(54:17):
the NFL. We saw both of them last year at USC.
Number One, he can take hits. That's a big piece
of this. He's going to take hits behind that offensive
line this year. We saw him take hits last year
behind a reworked offensive line at USC. The second piece
of this, he's got an ability to compartmentalize mistakes. He
still needs to be tighter with the ball. He was
a little careless. He'd get a little careless last year

(54:39):
at USC. But what he did show at SC last
year when he made a mistake, he was able to
put it behind him. They got off to a little
bit of a rough start there. He was able to
rebound and win the Pac twelve title. In game you
saw him being able to compartmentalize individual mistakes. And so
because he's got those two qualities, because he can take
hits compartmentalize mistakes, the Jets feel very, very comfortable that

(54:59):
he'll be fine out there as a rookie quarterback. I
think we've all seen evidence of it over the course
of the three preseason games. Okay, let's shift a Baker.
What do your sources say on Cleveland Torod Taylor Baker, Mayfield,
Hugh Jackson, House what transpires there? All right? Well, Hugh
told me directly, because you know, I know there's been
some question why isn't Baker taking first team reps all
that stuff? And so I asked you about this directly.

(55:22):
He was the quarterbacks coach in Baltimore in two thousand
and eight when Joe Flacco as a rookie got them
to the AFC Championship Game. He was in Cincinnati with
Andy Dalton, who played as a rookie, who started as
a rookie. So my question to Hugh was, why aren't
you doing that here? And his answer was, I don't
want to saddle Baker with all the history one and
thirty one over the last two years, we haven't done

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well with rookie quarterbacks, and Cody Kessler two years ago
and Deshan Kaiser last year, and then there's a lineage
of first round quarterbacks since since the Browns came back
into the league, from Tim Couch to Brady Quinn to
Brandon Whedon to Johnny Menzel. He doesn't want to saddle
Johnny Menzel with all of that, and so because of that,
he wants to give Johnny Manziel a chance to sit

(56:02):
and learn without having all of that on him, and
that's why they've been so resolute and saying Tyrod Taylor's
are starting quarterback. Beyond just believing in Tyrod. Yeah, Albert
Brer is joining US senior NFL reporter the Monday Morning Quarterback.
So I said, when my prediction on Josh Allen, he
and Lamar are projects, not prospects. But then his footwork improved.

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He looked pretty good against the twos. This week, he
looked overwhelmed against the ones. You're in Buffalo, do they
have a choice? I mean, I just thought when I
watched him against Cincinnati, Albert, I thought, oh, good God,
that's he's not ready. Yeah, what do you make of it? Yeah,
I would agree with you. I think his footwork has improved,
and we have seen improvement over what he was at Wyoming. Certainly,

(56:45):
I think some of the work that Jordan Palmer did
with him has taken hold, and so he's a better
player than he was a year ago. He see some
encouraging signs there, but again, he was a pretty raw
prospect coming into this, coming into the draft process. I
still think he's pretty raw, and you need to consider
not just what's good for the Bills. Here is Josh
Allen the right guy to start right now for the Bills?
You also have to consider whether or not playing for

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the Bills right now is good for Josh Allen. This
is a reworked offensive line. Cordy Glenn's gone, Richie and
in Cognito's gone, Eric Wood's gone, And so I think
that that's what Brian Dave Ball and Sean McDermott and
Brandon being are wrestling with right now. Do we want
to get Josh Allen experience? And it's even good for
Josh Allen to be out there right now? I think
those are the questions they need to answer. Albert Brer

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is joining us for the record the Cowboys. You know,
I know there's reservations on Dak eight turnovers last night.
An interesting point was brought up by somebody last week
on our show that you know, because Dak was drafted
in the fourth round, he's going to have some player
rights now coming up. Whereas if you draft a guy
in the first round, you know, teams can control that

(57:50):
player for an extra year. It feels like, you know,
what if Dak is just so so this year, is
it a huge year for Yeah, it is I think
it is a big year for him because I don't
think they necessarily have to extend him after a year three.
Remember they still have the franchise tag after a year four,

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and so I still think this is a big year
for Dak, and it's a big year for him as
a leader too. I mean, that's a really young football
team all of a sudden, with Witting out the door
and Deaz out the door. There are only three guys
in that roster who are in their thirties, and one
is the kicker and another is a long snapper. Shaun
Lee is the only position player on that roster who's
over thirty years old. So they've committed to building around

(58:33):
the offensive lineman, the young defensive lineman. You've talked about
the young defensive backs. They feel good about where their
youth is at. Certainly now they've put Dak in a
position to lead that team, and this to become more
about Dak and more about guys like Ezekiel Elliott and
more about guys like Zach Martin and Tyrann Smith. And
so I think we've got a lot to learn about
Dak over the course of the next of the next

(58:53):
sixteen games and one thing that's really interesting about this
they actually believe that taking DEAs out of the equation
is going to help. Yeah, and then it's going to
play to his strength a little bit. He's going to
be able to go out there and play point guard
a little bit more, use the whole field rather than
worrying every three or four plays whether or not they
gotta gets the ball. Great stuff, Albert, who for the record,
would never mention this, but got injured and he's literally

(59:17):
on the iright fighting through this interview. You do incredible stuff, Albert,
Thanks for coming on our show. All right, thanks called
coming up next. I've been critical of Cam, but I
saw something that is very promising with Cam, and I
want to discuss that. I think this is a big
year for Cam and what I saw this weekend. That's

(59:37):
coming up. Catching an MLB doubleheader Saturday on FS one. First,
Sean Carlos sand leads the Yankees against the Tigers. Then
the Raised battle Francisco Lindor and the Indians. It all
starts at three thirty Eastern on FS one or stream
it live on the Fox Sports app. By the way,
Yankees picked up three and a half games this weekend
on the scuffling Red Sox and the Yankees. John Carlos

(01:00:00):
Stanton's on fire. Now, very interesting, all those big playoff
games on fogs and very interesting. Red Sox scuffling, Patriots scuffling.
What's happening to Boston? They'll be even more miserable than
use usually? All right, here we go. So Cam Newton
had been critical love and if I'm critical of somebody,
there's a reason, Colin, you're brute love Baker Mayfield. He's

(01:00:21):
grabbing his junk. He's a quarterback. I got a police video.
I'm not a big fan of it. Yeah, crazy nutty me.
I don't like police videos with franchise quarterbacks. What an
outrageous stake. Cam Newton, you're brun love him. Yeah, that's
because there's a reason. Ten years ago we became a
precision league. We're no longer a precision We are a

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precision league for a quarterback. Let me give you an example.
It used to be the big stud big arm guys
in the seventies, Joe Namath, Terry Bradshaw. They completed like
fifty percent of their throws. And then in the eighties
and late eighties and nineties, Elway Marino big stud quarterbacks.

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Well that was closer to fifty five percent, fifty eight percent,
and then the big stud arms were eight when in
five and oh yeah, they moved into sixty sixty one percent,
sixty two percent, and now Aaron Rodgers, the big arm guy,
sixty five percent. You're noticing a trend. You could win
super Bowls in the seventies with fifty percent, you win

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multiple super Bowls. You can win super Bowls in the eighties,
in the mid fifties, and then all of a sudden
you win super Bowls and sixty percent and then now
that's different. And so yeah, yeah, the last eight to
ten years it has become a precision league. And if
Terry Bradshaw played the day or Troy ach when I'd

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be like button or up, come on, you can't have
these fifty percent games. But I will tell you this.
They brought in Norv Turner and so far came in
the preseason against Ones is eleven for seven teen precision,
and against Miami he was nine for twelve precision and
against Buffalo he was six for nine precision. Listen, this

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game has changed. The big armed guy won super Bowls
in the seventies at fifty percent. Then it went up
to about fifty five percent to win Super Bowls. Then
I went up to about sixty percent to Wincerer Bowl.
Now the guys that are winning a lot, like Brady,
Rogers and Breeze, it's in the mid sixties, Tom Brady.
Last four or five years, it's like sixty six six

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and a half six six percent. That's what you gotta
get to. So now if you go to the last
four years, it's almost like airlines. Like in the seventies
they glamorize smoking on planes, and then in the eighties
they started reducing smoking, and then the nineties they banned it.
And now nah, now it's twenty eighteen. It's a federal crime.

(01:02:55):
At an airport or on a plane. Just a pull
like a fire extinguisher, like just to play with that
is a federal crime. In the seventies, there'd be ads
smoking on planes. In the eighties are like, not great,
you can still do it, but let's not romanticize it.
In the nineties are like, I don't know why, but
we allowed smoking on planes to now you touch a

(01:03:19):
fire extinguisher, that's a federal crime. The world evolves, can't
act the same on a planer at an airport. Can't
say the same stuff. Now you're taking shoes off and
belts off, and I gotta nickel in my pocket. That's
gotta be on TSA's conveyor belt. Joey Taylor with the news, No,
no turns. This is the herd Line news. All right,

(01:03:41):
this is something that's never been said before. Colin. The
Patriots are heavy favorites to win the Super Bowl. Wow,
it's very shocking. Vada's latest odds at the Patriots as
the front runners two wins super Bowl fifty three with
six to one odds, followed by the Rams, the Vikings,
and Steelers Eagles. Packers say about these Chargers, that is
the shakiest super Bowl favorite in a long time because

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they are not as talented roster wise as the Rams, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Philly,
New Orleans, Atlanta, or the Chargers. They are not just Vegas.
Respect Belichick, Brady in the NBA Golden States, the favorite.
It's a legit favorite. We'd be shocked if they didn't win.
New England is the least talented roster of those eight
teams on my screen. I think their roster is similar

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to Green Bay, but it's nowhere near Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Atlanta,
New Orleans, Chargers, Rams, no way, Philadelphia, no way, They're not.
That roster is not close to the Eagles. I just
don't know, Colin, it's not ready. I'm living in fear
of the Patriots so well, that's because you've been haunted
by them as a Dolphin fans for two decades. Yeah,

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for twenty years. I just I'm just not ready to
believe that it's over yet. I mean, I'd like to,
but I'm just I'm not going to be the best.
It's Spurs over. It's not over over, but it's kind
of Spurs, right, But I'm not I'm not ready to
say that Spurs are well. This is winning the Super
Bowl ods obviously, Like I don't think that Spurs are
gonna win the championship this year, but I also don't
think they're going to miss the playoffs. I'm just not
ready to leap to that yet. I do see what

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you're saying, though, and it does have a different feel.
And there's been all the you know, rumors and uncharacteristic
things that have happened around the team this year, especially
with the Super Bowl and the Malcolm Butler thing and
everything else. But I just don't know. I'm moving in here.
It's fine. The backup quarterback position still remains a question
mark for the Raiders, and John Gruden isn't even sure
he has the backup quarterback on his roster. I don't know.

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You know, we're going to continue to work, continue to
see who's available. And you know, I thought there were
some good moments tonight, and there were some moments tonight
that weren't good. It's been too inconsistent. But I'm not
going to say much more tonight until I see the tape.
But we're going to continue to evaluate it. In my lifetime,

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who best coaches easily at a podium are John Gruden
and Mike Tomlin even just saying that, I'm fascinated with Gruden,
like I watch him and everything he says. I you know,
Raider fans are sending me a lot of hate for
the record. I'm hoping they win. First of all, I
think they're a good brand. They're kind of the rebel

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of the NFL. I love Derek Carr, and I know Gruden,
and like Gruden, I have real misgivings about leaving an
industry for a decade being close and going in. But
you know, I will say this, I've watched every preseason
Raider game. There's something there. They don't look disheveled, they
don't look disorganized. There. You know, when Derek Carr's playing,

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they look pretty good. I mean, they're great for content.
Oh God, for if you took the Cowboys out, the
next five great brands in the league, Pittsburgh Green Bays
Raiders are now. Now it's been a dead brand for
fifteen twenty years, but it was as a kid growing up,
it was every bit as big as the Cowboys. But

(01:07:04):
they just have history in the in the fan base obviously.
But look, you need to get a backup quarterback. Maybe
this is the Maybe this is the Jets move. Yeah,
you know Teddy Bridgewater out there? Or does that cause problems?
I think that's interesting. You need a backup quarter But
Derek Carr is so good, he's beyond I think I

(01:07:25):
still think Bridgewater fits best in Miami. Tannehill's coming off
an injury, nobody's in love with him. Teddy played high
school football, didn't the in Miami? Yeah, that feels like
And I think Jacksonville is another one. I think Bortles.
I think Bridgewater is better than Tannehill and Bortles not
a ton better, but he's better. Yeah. So finally, there's
no superstar on the planet that lives more under the microscope.
And Lebron obviously, and he has plenty of critics. On

(01:07:47):
a recent trip to Shanghai, Lebron shared how he does
not let his failures overcome him. He told the Global Times,
being able to accept failure is a process. It's not
wrong you fail. People get so afraid to fail they
don't get everything into it. I understand that will be
a time I don't succeed or may fail, but I
won't stop. I will continue to go back. He's right,
it is important to try. You don't try. People don't

(01:08:10):
try things because they're afraid of failing. Then you never
succeeded anything either. But I do think that this saving
has lots to do with White and stay in Cleveland
either both times. I mean, because he could have stayed
in Cleveland, have been comfortable and had expectations, but not
necessarily been crucified for not ever winning because it was
Cleveland and him going to the Lakers is a big risk.
If he doesn't win here, he's going to be criticized.

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A lot of people who take big professional gambles are
offered opportunities to stay, but they just want something new
and fresh. They want to extend the fun times in
their life because very few people go to work and
have fun. Lebron goes to work and he has fun.
You and I go to work and we have fun. Right,
our job is to just really extend the fun as
long as we can because we can. You know, there's

(01:08:52):
a lot of people in every business, including ours, that
aren't having fun. When you go to work and it's fun,
Like Lebron, he just said, you know, Cleveland, I don't
love the owner. This roster is I'm carrying it. I'm
getting older. The Lakers, at least you'll you drive to
work and you're like, this is kind of hopeful Los Angeles. Yeah.
Or maybe he'll helicopter it in. Maybe you have cookies connecta.

(01:09:13):
It'll be like Batman's. It'll have a big l on it,
flying over every night, landing on the stables. Joy of
the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping
by the Herdline News. We've told you we think of
all the rookie quarterbacks Darnold's the one that could start
coming up next. I'm gonna bring on a guy that
was a tight end for the Jets and Tampa Bay

(01:09:35):
play in the NFL for a while. Anthony becked he
does the Jets preseason games, and there are reports this
morning Jets players are now are kind of like, hey,
Darnold's the guy. So we're gonna bring on somebody that's
been doing the Jets preseason games. Anthony Beck's right around
the corner. He'll be joining us from New York. Be
sure to catch live editions on the Herd weekdays and
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in high school in Pennsylvania, in college at West Virginia,
and in the NFL for twelve years, Anthony Beck was
a reliable go to tight end, a mature guy who
coaches like and he started with the Jets and he's

(01:10:23):
now doing their preseason games. He's got a podcast called
Spittin Fire. I've been watching him as a color analyst.
He used to work at the place I used to
work at ESPN as well, and we bring him via
the Coward Global Satellite Network. The former first round pick
with over a decade in the NFL. So I've had
Shannon Sharp and Anthony Becked on today, I'm giving love
to tight ends. So let's start Anthony with this. You

(01:10:44):
were a dependable player, not always flashy. You could block,
you could catch. Coaches liked you, and I think that's
an underrated part of NFL football because the league is
getting younger. So with most of these quarterbacks, Anthony, I'm like,
they need to city year. But I met Sam Darnold
three years ago and I said on the air, he's different.

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He's a grown up. This is why I fell in
love with Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck. How much of
Darnold's personality is impressing the Jets, how much of his
game is impressing the Jets, coaches, everything. I think you're
exactly right. He is really what he's brought to the table,
in my opinion, is he's all ball. When he gets

(01:11:28):
in the building, it's all ball. There's nothing else that's
more important to him. He's only played three years at
the quarterback position. He's twenty one years old and he's
dived into this playbook and he's mastered. I've talked to
him the last couple of weeks before the games and
he said, I'm just dialed into every single scenario, everything
that the Jets have thrown at me, and he's been
on top of that. You've heard tid Bowls and Jeremy Bates,

(01:11:49):
the coordinator, talk about that weekend and week out. You know,
his accuracy on the move, his intelligence of the game
and just playing the position for three years. His scrambling ability,
his move and skills, his ability to pre snap read
too a lot of the and he had a bunch
of scenarios in the preseason so far where there's been
some blitzes or he's gotten off the one and the two,

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and he's had a plan. He gets it to the checkdown,
he gets it to the crossing tight end. He hits
Terrell Prior when two tight ends are running double posts
on the backside in the red zone, and Prior gets
the ball underneath and he becomes the guy that scores
the touchdown against the Giants. So those things have been unbelievable.
I firmly have been a guy. I'm a little old
school column I don't really like thrusting quarterbacks, rookie quarterbacks

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on the field. I think he's demonstrated everything that you
want in a young quarterback to make you feel good
and comfortable. But I will hesitate that this is the NFL,
this is a league of intricate defenses. It is not easy.
He's not on the Patriots, He's not coming on the
team that just went to the super Bowl. He's on
the Jets, a team that's young, that's building, and that

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really is gravitating to him. That's another thing too, are
the team. Are his teammates believe and what he can
do on the field and day to day in practice
that they feel comfortable him. He even has that going
for him. But even with that all said, there is
a luxury with the Jets right now. They have three
starting quarterbacks on their roster, and just because of that luxury,

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I think the risk outweighs the reward of starting him
now and one of these other two guys and letting
him learn and grow for the future. But there's no
question all those intangible, intangible things I just talked about
is what is leading the coaching staff, the organization, and
even me at times believing he can get it done. Now, Anthony,
it's not a great offensive line. They don't they tight

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end spots, not loaded. Running back's pretty meager. I do
think they're wide receivers. If Robbie Anderson can give me
sixteen games, the receiving corps maybe better than I give
him credit for. Could I make the argument, though, that
Teddy Bridgewater on the open market could get me a
draft pick and an offensive lineman. That Darnold's good enough

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to roll the dice and Teddy can get your stuff
on the market. Could I make that argument? There's no
question Teddy can get you something on the market. I
don't know if the markets set to get the maximum
value for him right now, because I don't know if
anybody really needs Teddy Bridgewater. They may be enticed to
have Teddy on their team and maybe not loving their

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current position, but he definitely the more he's played, the
more he shows, becomes a huge asset for a lot
of teams in the NFL. You know, for me, Teddy
is when you look at this quarterback situation across the board,
I got to look and ask two questions, Is there
any quarterback on this team. That's head and shoulders, head
and shoulders above anybody else. That's the guy you should play.

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If you look at the course of history Aikman, he
was head and shoulders against. I think it was Steve Walsh.
There's no question he's playing Peyton Manning head and shoulders against.
Was it Kelly Holcomb was the guy behind him? No question?
Andrew Luck same thing. He's still in question what his
future lies. But at the time he's the guy or
are they all the same across the board where you

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can pick and choose? You know if to me his
upside is bigger than both of Josh and Teddy. I
think he brings a lot to the table, but he
hasn't done anything yet, to be quite honest with you,
in a real game, Teddy Bridgewater to me is the
guy that Okay, he's young, he's twenty five, he's healthy,
he looks great, he's been accurate. His stats have been
equally as good as Sam playing with threes and sometimes

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four in the preseason game. And he's been to a
Pro Bowl and he's led it to into the playoffs
and he's still twenty five. So listen, you have some
valuable options there to help the growth and development, and
we haven't really talked about the other things that restrict quarterbacks.
I mean, there's a nightmare situation brewing here with three
games in what ten or eleven gays to start your
rookie career. That's tough ask. You know, I played with

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Chad Pennington. He was a first round pick. If you
ask him straight up if he was ready to start,
he'd say he knew the playbook, he had everything it
took to be the starter, but he wasn't ready for
that grind. And we have Vinie Testaburi there and he
was able to grow and come into that position when
he was ready. And also I'd love to have Sam
Darnold ask great questions or ask dumb questions, or even

(01:16:04):
make mistakes in closed doors instead of maybe saying it
in front of Rich Zemini or Steve Zerbe or some
of these other players or other reporters that he's going
to have to deal with every single week in the
NFL after games. So there's a luxury there. You can
go both ways. But you're right, the Jets are in
a great position here and this is gonna be a
tough decision. Yeah, you know. I said this last week.

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We all know the good coaches, but there's always been
a time in the NFL where good coaches Belichick, Pete
Carroll got fired. One of the things I like about
Darnold I like Todd Bulls and boy, am I in
the minority on the internet when you look at the
quarterback instability he's faced. They they won five games last

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year without much and had six one possession losses, mostly
to good teams. They beat playoff teams. I think Bowls
is the rare NFL coach with a losing record the
tax a really good football coach. Now, I know you
work for the Jets. It is harder for some people
to beat critical. But when I watched the Jets play Anthony,
I see a well coached team without a ton of personnel.

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Am I wrong? They're young? Number one, we got to
start with that. Last year for me was eye opening
because you're right, they were in so many games last
year and it was really impressive. Listen, I was there
day one when Tabbos entered the NFL from college football
in two thousand. He was a defensive back coach for
the Jets my rookie year, and I saw the same
guy then that I see now, But I see a

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guy that's grown in so many aspects. He was able
to coach under guys like Bill Parcels, Al Grove, Bruce Arians.
He's earned his stripes every single year, becoming positional coach
to a defensive coordinator and then again a defensive coordinator,
and now he's prepared himself for this position. It doesn't
surprise me at all that the players, the people in
the building, everybody embraces him. Now. He doesn't have the

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Starstroke Gruden, the Herm Edwards cliches or any of that stuff.
But Todd is well liked, very very smart, and a
very very detailed head coach. And you're right, only five
wins last year. They had a strong first year when
he was there, But I think they're growing a very
strong nucleus. The fundamentals and the interiors of this team.

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The positive sense in the locker room is very strong.
Even though they're a young team. They have a good
mix of veteran players and you'll see improvement across the board.
Their defense will be much improved this year with the
secondary and some of the pieces he had the linebacker
position and their draft picks. We only talk about Sam Darnold,
but I think Sam Darnold, I think Nathan Shephard, a

(01:18:39):
very underrated defensive lineman from Fort Hayes State, will be
a starter game one heading into the season. So they
have some pieces there that they can build on, along
with some of the guys they have now. Anthony Beck,
talented guy, former NFL tight end doing Jets games. You'll
hear a lot more from him. We appreciate you stopping by.
You did a great job for us. Thanks appreciate it.
Anytime at got good insight. You know it is interesting,

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as he pointed out, the Darnald things complicated because the
Teddy Sam gaps not much. They've got winnable games early.
You can get stuff for Teddy Bridgewater. Like I think
to Rod Taylor Baker, you know I see a gap Flacco, Lamar,
I see a gap Bradford Rose and I see a gap.
I see the gap with this one now is small.

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I do think Teddy's better today. But you know you
can make this argument too. Joy play Teddy because he's
off an injury. Show him off. If you start looking
at the Jets defense and who they face in the
first month, you could win three games. This is not
like the Browns who open up with the Steelers and
the Saints and you're going on two. Like the Jets

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could open up with either of these quarterback winning games,
and you could. It's a very valid argument to say
we're gonna put Teddy on tape for the league go
three and one. Now maybe with Darnold you go three
and one or two and two. But we're gonna just
show Heady off. We're gonna put him. You know, you
drive by the car dealership in the window they put
the nice cars. We're gonna show Teddy off, the backfire

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tam hurt. Then you don't. You don't get anything for him.
And Arnold is definitely the future of the franchise. So
it's a it's a really complicated situation with the Jets.
Um I can't wait for it. At A lot of
you are saying, Colin, you're just rooting for Darnold because
you know you have been the guy that's been on him.
I'm rooting for all these guys because if you ever

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watched the football game with bad quarterback play, Yeah, mostly no,
because it's unwatchable. I don't want any of these guys
to bust, Like if you look at the NFC right now,
if if Rosen's the real deal, like you don't have
a single NFC team without their future quarterback. If Trubisky
and I've got my reservations, if Trubisky ends up being okay,

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and I'm kind of on the fence on that, everybody
in the NFC has got a guy. It never works
out there. There's always like three teams within a conference
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Our three. This is the herd, wherever you may be
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energy today because the NFL season. I'm watching football. I

(01:21:36):
got a little college football this weekend. We're about six
seven days away from college football opening up. This is
week three in the NFL. Joy, where you can kind
of watch teams. You gotta get in a sense of
who can who's gonna do things and who isn't gonna
do things? It's fun, right, Week three's always the best week. Yeah,
it's the best week. I don't love the preseason nothing,
a lot of it's junk. But Week three is the
best of the week. So three times Super Bowl champ

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marks faith in studio in fifteen minutes, going to call
me out on something. He sees, something he likes, and
I don't later for best for last. We have a
great best for last today. You know the NBA game
I do. I give every team at the start of
the season the three word game. I can describe every
NBA team in three words. Well, I'm gonna do AFC today,
NFC tomorrow. I can describe every AFC team in three words.

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So that's where we are today. But first, Tom Brady
had a very interesting Monday morning, so let me start there.
When you've had power forever, it's very hard to surrender it.
And football's always been a controlling sport. The general manager
controls the players, and the head coach controls the players,
and there's no guaranteed contracts, and if you do something wrong,

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you are out of here. The NBA has got guaranteed contracts,
one or two star players can change a franchise in
a city in commerce forever. So the NBA coach has
never felt all power full. The NBA general managers never
felt all powerful. So it's much easier for a Steve
Kerr to relinquish power, much harder for a football coach.

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But it's coming, and this is fascinating. So when I
say team with Tom Brady, you think Patriots. When I
say Russell Wilson team, you think Seahawks. When I say
Aaron Rodgers team, you think Packers. But when I say
Lebron James team, you know what I think of Maverick Carter,

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Chris Paul, the guys he runs with, and you know
whoever the team is currently. And that's okay. That's the
way it should be for superstars. We have no problem
giving Lebron James or any NBA star latitude. He's got
a trainer that travels with him, he's got an agent
that travels with him, he's got a marketing shoe guy

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that travels with him, and he's got his best friend
that travels with him. He's his confidant, inner circles tight.
It's his team problem that's been happening for thirty years,
but in the NFL, Alex Guerrero a career extending trainer,
wildly respected around the league. Tom's opening a clinic, players

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want to be in the clinic, The fact that he
now travels with Tom Brady again, Brady goes on a
local Boston radio station, WEEI this morning. They don't want
to talk about the Patriots. They don't want to talk
about the wide receivers. They don't want to talk about football.
What is it with Alex Guerrero? We saw the reports
this weekend that Alex was on the team plane, which

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he wasn't for the second half of last year, I guess,
and not on the sideline. Is that accurate? Yeah? He
was with me this last week, So yeah, what changed
in him not being on the team plane last year
and this year? You know, I don't want to I'm
not getting into all that, Okay. When I ran in
him at the Super Bowl last year Minneapolis and I
talked to him there, he had said, in his opinion
that all this stuff had been overblown, that he in

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Belichick actually had a pretty good relationship even then, would
you say that was true? I'm sure they don't want
to get into it. Okay, good Evan. Yeah, I mean
everyone knows it's well documented. How you know the work
thinking and I do together. No, I know, I no, no, yeah, no,
I understand that. I'm just trying to figure out because
I saw the reports this weekend that he's traveling with
the team. Was he on the sideline one frond? Yeah,

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all right, guys, have a great day. I'll talk to
you later. Oh, there he goes this morning. Hung up
on him. The question is not that he hung up
on him. Why are we so hung up on Tom
Brady having as eighteen years, eight super Bowls, world's greatest
football player in the last two decades. He's hanging up
because we're hung up on Alex Guerrero. By the way, Finally,

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I've been pleading about this for several years. Quarterbacks take
control of your career. Finally Tom Brady's like, yeah, this
guy makes me last longer. I'm gonna I'm gonna travel
with him. Check Aaron Rodgers. This franchise tag, it's garbage.
I'm trapped for five years, he says it. Check Kirk Cousins. No,

(01:26:02):
I'm not going to sign with Washington. You didn't give
me the respect I deserve to win a bunch of games.
I'm out of here. I'm gonna be a free agent,
and I'm gonna put myself on the market. Check. This
is exactly what I've been preaching for years. Why is
it okay? When I say Lebron's team, I think of
his guys, his friends, his confidence, those he respects and trusts,

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his agent, maybe a marketing guy, maybe a high school buddy.
That's his team. He's the best player in the world.
I'm good with his team. But if Tom Brady says
that whoa, whoa, tom Brady's hired of answering to something
as the greatest football player in America should be an
absolute understanding. This is not a SPA treatment. It's not

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me going to you know, the Marriott and getting a SPA.
It is a career extending element to his career. He
has every right to do this. I mean, Tom Brady
is not a guy we can question. Tom Brady's not
like you know, he's just pampered. He's an egomaniac. He's
not a team guy. Opposite, opposite, opposite of what I

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just said. So this is really interesting to me, is
that in our football culture, in America. We bristle at
the idea of Kirk Cousins saying no to a team
and Aaron Rodgers saying the franchise tag is garbage, and
Tom Brady saying I'm traveling with a trainer. When the
Lakers signed KCP a couple of years ago, remember literally,

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Rob Polenka, the Laker Jam came up on the podium,
and remember what happened? Who he mentioned twice? Remember who
he mentioned twice? Here's the audio. I would venture to
guess there's people in the room that are familiar with
the stories in the Book of Genesis where there was
a time when the Israelites were wandering in the desert

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and all of a sudden bread came down from heaven.
It's kind of what today feels like for us to
have KCP joint. As Magic said too, I think Rich,
Paul and Farah from Clutch are here today. I think
just their understanding of sort of the free agent market
and cap space and all of the things that come

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into play. When Rich texted me and said, hey, I
see you and Magic have been really really careful with
your space. You're being very patient. Let's talk, it was like,
you know, a lightning bolt hit us, and we said,
this has to be our focus. We got to find
a way. Look who was sitting closest to the GM
of the Lakers. It wasn't a player. It was part

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of Lebron's team. Because KCP is represented by Rich Paul,
part of Lebron's team. When you say KCP, everybody in
the league knows, Oh, that's part of Lebron's team clutch Sports.
He represents them. So we have a player in the
NBA who literally can move players around to other teams.

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Would you be upset if Tom Brady had an agent
group that move players into the Patriots? Why would you
be upset with that? That's what Lebron does. Why can't
Aaron Rodgers create Packer Clutch Sports and move players into
the Packers that he represents. Why are we letting NBA
guys do this? But we're outraged by NFL guys traveling

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with a trainer. I don't get it, never have and
I am pro four one hundred percent behind franchise quarterbacks
having I don't know an eighth of the power Russell
Wilson changed the city of Seattle. He deserves as much
power as otto porter of the Washington Wizards. I'm sorry,

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crazy me tom Brady hung up because we're hung up
on Tom Brady. Ridiculous coming up next, Mark Schlareth like something.
I've got dubious expectations of NBA player of note Big
News Joy Taylor has that as well. We got a

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(01:30:49):
in Mark Schlareth. Multiple super Bowls, three in fact three
big Rings, multiple time Pro bowler Schlareth and Evans Mornings
in Denver. Okay, let's start with us. We got breaking news.
Let's show some Odell Beckham love. He just signed a
five year extension makes him the highest paid wide receiver

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in the NFL, a ninety five million dollar dat maxdeal.
This is breaking news. Sixty five million total guaranteed, Mark Schlaret,
your reaction myra good for him, man, I want everybody
to get paid, and good for Odell, because Odell Beckham
Junior is one of the most phenomenal receivers that we
have ever seen in this league. But I'll tell you what.

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Find the video of him in three or four of
his teammates celebrating in the locker room, because that says
a lot about a person when you can celebrate somebody
else's success, Like how often do you ever celebrate somebody
else's success somebody gets promotion, you're like, oh, man, I
deserve that promotion. Like here's a guy in your locker

(01:31:52):
room that gets paid, and there's three or four guys
dancing around like they just got paid, Like it's that
much excitement for Odell Beckham Junior. So like, I appreciate
his passion Now there is a question about emotional maturity
sometimes right, But don't get confused. This guy is a
passionate football player. He brings great energy that way, he

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needs to control the emotions sometimes and sometimes he lacks
that emotional maturity. But he grows up. He continues to
play the way he's played with, the passion that he's
played with, the work ethic that he's played with, and
the spectacular nature with which he plays. I'm telling you what,
the guy is one of the best in the league.
They are my Super Bowl dark horse team. And here's why.

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So Beckham didn't play. He's back. They were. It wasn't
just that they were average at receiver. They were bad.
Now they'll get great. They were awful at left tackle.
Now they'll be really good Nate Solder. They were awful
at running back. They'll be exciting with Sequon Barkley. They
were awful and play calling. Now they get Pat Shermer.

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I can make the argument after quarterback, OC left tack,
running back, receiver in today's NFL with the rules are
the four hit spots. They have made massive upgrades in
all of them. I think the Giants are a very
interesting team. I really do let me tell you, let
me take it one step further, that you didn't even

(01:33:16):
come up with that basically lends credence to your kind
of what you think here is that may have been
the worst culture in football. The New York Giants last year,
last year unbelievably bad. That locker room unbelievably bad. Quit
because of the guy who was the head coach. And
to clear that out Macadoo obviously, to clear that out

(01:33:40):
and to bring in, you know, to bring in Pat Shermer,
and to now have healthy guys, like you said, and players,
rearrange your offensive line, get a running back that can
be efficient. I think a lot of people like try to,
you know, try to bury Eli Manning too soon, right,
I mean they try to write the obituary a little
too soon. You put some weapons around Eli Manning. I

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think you can still be very efficient, and so get
a better culture, better weapons. This is a team in
a division, Come on, what do we really think about? Why?
We know? We know Philadelphia's good upstairs, good coach, good
quarterback line, But after that, there's a lot of I
think they could be good. I think I just I

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just know that winning back to back championships is really difficult.
There's only a few teams that have ever done it.
Even New England doesn't do that. There's only a few
teams that did it. They did it in the two thousand,
like two thousand three, two thousand two, two thousand and
three or something like that, but they did win back
to backs. I was on a team that won back
to backs. It's hard. It is hard because once you're

(01:34:46):
sated by success, a lot of guys want contracts. A
lot of guys are like, like, like we just talked
about with the Giants guys celebrating Odell Beckham Juniors contract,
most guys are pointing fingers like why is that guy
getting paid? And I'm not getting paid. I was part
of the championship. How come I can't get like. There's
a lot of that that goes on. It's really hard
to maintain that focus. And we've seen them not play

(01:35:07):
very well even though they're this such a tight knit group.
We've seen them come out here in the preseason and
almost like I just don't believe in mailing it in
the preseason. It doesn't count, but it does matter. It
matters that you don't show up, It matters that you
don't play well. Those are things that you look at
and say, man, it matters how you establish yourself when

(01:35:27):
you're playing this game and they haven't played well. You know,
it's interesting about Odell Beckham. I said this about a
year ago. He's the NFL's first NBA player. He got
a shoe deal. Is that in my lifetime? First of
all NBA guys, Blake Griffin, you know, good player, had
like four commercials, National commercials at one point. NBA guys

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have made money. A lot of them make more money
on shoes, Derek Rose than their game. But the NFL
has always been about the system. Maybe a quarterback would
have it, you know, a dodge commercial, but that this
is the first. I think there's a chance that Odell Beckham,
you know how Steph Curry is. Maybe not Steph's not
as good as Lebron, but Steph has changed the game.
He eliminated centers. He has revolutionized the sport. If you

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don't shoot at three, you can't be on the floor.
Odell Beckham to me, Mark, I wonder this is this
organization's the most conservative organization in the NFL. I mean,
you talk about an accounting firm in pads and they
just gave a ton of money to a flashy, personality
driven guy that doesn't necessarily win games for him. It

(01:36:33):
feels like a little changing of the tide in the
NFL where this whole offseason mark right receivers are getting
money defensive guys, aren't you know? You know it's interesting
he'll have arrived. I'll tell you when you know you've
arrived as a spokesperson in the marketing world. When you
can sell cars that you don't fit in, that's the NBA.

(01:36:54):
When you could sell a car that you don't actually
fit in, shack you, Yes, you know you've arrived. Like, yeah,
I mean he can sell anything. Shaq can sell anything. Hey,
here's a little car. I don't fit in it, but
go ahead and buy it. You know. That's the power
of the NBA. And I do think O'Dell's got an
NBA quality like I've never seen. All Right, So Tom
Brady's on radio in his hometown of Boston and he

(01:37:14):
hangs up the phone on the radio host. What do
you make of that? The Alex Guerrero questions, Well, I mean,
you know, this is the second time Tom Brady has
hung up the phone on a show that he has
contracted to do, right, I mean, so I'm sure with
Tom he was cordial. They asked him, they had a question,

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It wasn't out of bounds. A question wasn't out of bounds,
It wasn't vitriolic. They didn't go after him. He didn't
want to talk about it, and he mentioned twice that
he didn't want to talk about it. When they asked
him again, he just said, all right, see around sometime. Well,
you know, we'll try this again next week. So Tom
has earned the right to talk about what Tom wants
to talk about. Eighteen years in the NFL, the greatest

(01:37:57):
quarterback that's ever played, and you know, yeah, Alexe Guerrero,
he's got a quirky system. It seems to be working
for Tom, and if he doesn't want to discuss it,
then that's fine. Yeah. The media this week was pressing
Tiger Woods on political talk and he's like, I'm hungry,
I want to go eat, right. Yeah, if once you're
a superstar. I mean, both Tom and Tiger answer the

(01:38:18):
first question, but they're not going to extend a narrative
for you as a reporter. And if you're gonna keep
pressing the same question, then They're just gonna move on
and stop the interview, all right, So what would you
do with Sam Darnold. We can see the gap between
Flacco and Lamar. I think you can see a gap
between Bradford and Rosen. The gap between Bridgewater and Donald's
not a gulf. I think Teddy's better. But what would

(01:38:42):
you do if you ran the Jets? Yeah? Interestingly enough,
I mean I think you have to look at yourself,
like what kind of season do we expect to have,
what division do we play in, are we're really going
to catch the new Elam Patriots? And what sets us
up best for the future. So I think that Donald's
going to play eventually, whether it's Week one or whether

(01:39:02):
it's Week four, He's gonna get to play. So you
have to decide if those first four or six games,
if that's gonna either retard his development or if that's
going to excel his development. I would say, based on
what we've seen, based on decisions in the line of scrimmage,
based on reading out the routes, the route combination versus
the coverage, that he's ready to play, and on top

(01:39:24):
of that, on top of that, honestly, this is why
signing veteran quarterbacks is important. I know a lot of
teams don't like to do it. They don't want to
spend a six or seven million dollars whatever it is, right,
chump change in the overall scheme of things. I mean,
you could tilt over the cushions in the coach's office
and grab six million bucks, you know. I mean, these
teams make a lot of money to have a veteran

(01:39:45):
set of eyes at the quarterback position, like Josh McCown,
to let guys know how to play the game, how
to study film. Like. There's a lot of guys that
come into this league, and I'll just use I'm in Denver,
I'm at practice every day. I'll use Paxson Lynch as
an example. I believe that he thinks he's working hard.
I believe that he thinks he's studying hard. But there's

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never been a veteran presence in that in that locker room.
They had it with Mark Sanchez, they ended up cutting
him and having Trevor Simmeon and Paxson Lynch together, And
the same thing went down last year with the Broncos.
So you don't have a veteran set of eyes in
there to say, whoa rewind that? Did you see that?
I don't see anything? Now look at that. I mean,
it's what happens to most of us as young players.

(01:40:27):
I got drafted the Washinger Redskins. I was with the Hogs.
You know, I was named a starter. Halfway through my
rookie years, I was in the film room with Russ Grimm.
Russ Grimm's the smartest football player I've ever been around.
Russ Grimm was our emergency quarterback. I'm not kidding. Junter
eighty five pound guard was the emergency quarterback. Here's here's

(01:40:49):
this is how smart Russ was. Um, we have some protection,
right and he's on the sideline and um, I come off.
I come off. It's stirred down. Whatever we don't convert,
we punt? Come off? And he says, where was the
ref lined up? I was like, what not? Like what
defense were they in? Where was a safety? What was
a linebacker doing? He goes, where's a ref lined up? Like,

(01:41:12):
what are you talking about? Where's the ref? He goes,
you don't check to see where the ref's lined up?
I mean he's incredulous, right, Like, how can you be
this dumb? Like you don't check? I got no. I
never even thought about where the dude. Come on, if
the ref lined up inside of you, he's way inside
of you. You can yank a dude down with your
right hand, with your outside hand and not get called

(01:41:32):
if he's on the edge of you, because you're on
the other hash. He goes, you gott to yank him
down with your your inside left hand. He goes, come on, now,
you gotta learn how to hold You gotta learn how
to pay attention. And I was just like, I'm blown away, right,
But that's that's what veteran eyes give a guy. Yeah,
that's so was Sam Darnold. Having a Josh mccollwen in
there is worth its weight in goal. Trent Dilford told

(01:41:55):
me he called me. We were talking on the phone
about half about Let's say I called him two weeks ago,
and I remember where I was sitting, and he said,
let me tell you something. He goes, the Jets don't
have a quarterback coach. He goes, they don't need one.
He goes, Josh McCown is the next player in the
league that can go right into coaching today. He said,
Josh McCown, he goes, not only he's one of the
best humans in the league. People love it. Yes, he's

(01:42:17):
totally for the community and the team. He said, Josh
McCown will retire and he goes. I wouldn't be surprised
if the Jets just gave him a job as their
quarterback coach, and so Baker doesn't have that right now.
He's competing against a veteran and a coach who wants
his job. Darnold's got the advantage. We have to be
honest here of a unbelievable guy in the room that

(01:42:38):
helps him every day. Yeah, it is a massive deal
for the record. You know, I was thinking about parody.
I was talking earlier in the show about parody. I
love the NBA, but outside of Golden State, Boston and
maybe Houston, that's about it. I was looking at the
NFC alone, Mark, I don't there are six teams. If
they won the NFC today now Dallas, I would be surprised.

(01:43:02):
But I can make the argument in the NFC that
if the Packers, Saints, Eagles, Falcons, Rams and Vikings one,
I would not be surprised. I mean the Vikings I
like less than Philadelphia because they lost Pat Shermer and
they have a new new coach the NBA. As much

(01:43:25):
as I like it, there is a mile gap between
like Team two and Team twenty. Do you have somebody
in the NFC, because I imagine we both like Pittsburgh
a lot in the AFC. That's a real good team.
Is there an NFC team you feel today? It's like
I'm all in on that team Green Bay with Aaron
Rodgers when he's healthy. Yeah, Like you mentioned the parody thing,

(01:43:47):
just think about the NFC North, Like you can make
a compelling argument for green Bay from Minnesota and hey
have a couple of things for all right Detroit, Like
you got three teams in that division that you could say, hey,
there could be three playoff teams from that division. You
could get two wild cards out of that division. I mean,
it is so tight. The same with the South with Atlanta,
New Orleans, Carolina. Carolina has got I would argue Carolina

(01:44:11):
has got the best front seven defensively in the league,
which generally gets you to the playoffs. And that's if
I read all the magazines. You know, I always read
the NFL preseason magazines. They're third by almost everybody. It's like,
that's the best front seven and by the way, a
former MVP quarterback now with one of the sharpest OCAs
in the league. And now they've got a couple of

(01:44:31):
really good running backs. Right, So I mean there are
you know, we look at, is Aaron Donald gonna get
done with the Rams? How do they progress in their
next you know, the second season under McVeigh. They're really intriguing.
I mean, there are so many in the NFC. There
are so many intriguing teams. You know, in the AFC,
you're looking at New England and Pittsburgh and they kind

(01:44:52):
of feel a not right and then and then you
feel like, well, because the Chargers have Philip Rivers, that
maybe they can do something the special. But I think
there's just more question marks in the a FC. In
the NFC, there just seems to be a lot of answers.
You know, yeah, and you're a hundred you're one hundred
percent right. I've always felt like there's probably twelve teams

(01:45:12):
in the NFL whose ownership is truly committed to winning
a championship, and then there's you know, then there's the
other half or a little bit more than half that like, hey,
if a championship falls in our laps, that's great. Right,
If the stars aligned, we stay healthy, and all of
a sudden somebody at the quarterback positions plays better than
we thought he could, you know, maybe we can get one.
But there's about twelve teams. But that's pretty good because

(01:45:35):
in the NBA, I think there's about three teams that
you look at and say, wow, they're you know, they're
all in. They're all in. And then there's a bunch
of markets that you just look at and they're like, hey,
it's really fun to go to NBA games. You know,
we're not really gonna win a championship, but you know,
I live in one in Denver. It's fun. They're exciting,
they're young squad. You know, they've got some guys that
are potential stars. Zero chance to win a title. It's

(01:45:55):
just got a chance. Yeah, none. Mark Slayreth, good to
see anybody. Oh. Likewise, Mark Schlere of three rings, a
lot of Pro Bowls. Joey Taylor with the news. No, no,
this is the herd Line news. That's a big news today.
Colin Odell's getting paid and as you mentioned earlier, one
of the most beloved players in Spurs history is calling

(01:46:18):
it a career Manugenobli posted this on Twitter just a
few minutes ago today, with a wide range of feelings,
I'm announcing my retirement from basketball. Immense gratitude to everyone family, friends, teammates, coaches, staff,
and fans involved in my life in the last twenty
three years. It's been a fabulous journey, way beyond my
wildest dreams. Tony Parker season is gone. Man who's gone,

(01:46:43):
Duncan's retired, Kawai was the next guy gone. It's a
this is how dynasties end their gradual They're gradual. Pops
now getting close to seventy, they're gradual. This has got
a hurt if you're a Spurs fan. Well he was.
You know what, man, who's one of those guys? Is

(01:47:03):
he the greatest sixth man ever? He's probably the greatest.
I mean that that is not a small thing. No,
he's probably the greatest sixth man in league history. Well him,
Duncan and Parker are the winningest trio in NBA history.
Is that true? Yeah? So, I mean not that. You know,
Janobody was the thing that was going to put the
Spurs over the edge for me this year. But this

(01:47:26):
is a this is a big deal. I mean he
was the last part of that. I mean, obviously besides
Pop of that Spurs dynasty base. Have you ever gone
to a YMCA and there's like a fifty eight year
old guy that can Now, he can't run very well,
but he can still score. Man who's going to be
in a gym somewhere in Argentina. He'll be seventy four
and he'll be still dropping like eighteen points in games

(01:47:48):
at the water when he's playing twenty minutes averaging nine points.
So he's jolly. And just to think about that, ninety
percent of kids in college will never make the NBA.
Of the ones that do, almost none will average nine
in a game. Ever, the dude could just get buckets.
That's crazy. Well, I don't know, it's gonna be very
interesting now, especially with Kawai Goan. All Right, so there's

(01:48:08):
been some rumblings of someone's retired coming back to the NBA,
speaking of running around the Why Kobe Bryant. There's some
rumors that he was going to be coming back to
the NBA or possibly played for the Big Three, And
he went on the Rich Eyes and Show and had
this to say about it. Come on, I want to

(01:48:29):
hear it. You know me too. We have this, we
don't have this, Okay, I'll read it. When I retired,
everyone was saying he's too competitive, He's not going to
know what to do with himself. He's going to have
to come back. I took that as a personal challenge
of them, thinking that I'm a one dimensional person. But
all I know how to do is dribble the ball,
shoot the ball, play basketball, and compete at that level.
So basically he's saying you shouldn't have said all he

(01:48:51):
was gonna do is have to come back, because now
Kobe is taking that insane competitive drive that he had
with basketball and applying it to life after basketball. He
has definitely not coming back. No, I mean, once you
get to be Kobe Bryant. I mean, you know what
I love about Michael Jordan at the you know, was
doing baseball and the Wizards, and it's just kind of sloppy,
like Kobe ends with sixty points drops the mic wins

(01:49:18):
an Oscar. I thought he made it very clear he
was done with that. Like you listen, I could argue
no NBA star has ever ended their career as well
as Kobe. Shack was a beaten up mess. Michael was
losing games for the Wizards, and he was not the
same player. Kobe dropped sixty, dropped the mic, and then

(01:49:39):
won an Oscar twelve months later, Like that's it is
remarkable when you go into the history of the NBA,
how many guys, i mean stars, Larry Bird could no
longer run, Davitsky can't move. I mean, I'm talking all
time great Shacks, Barkley falling apart physically. Boy, Kobe ended
it with elegance. I just I you know what I

(01:50:02):
think it is. I think it's I think it's Kobe
fans who are still upset and Lebron came because now
it's going to be Lebron's team and they can't deal
with it. So they're drumming up this, uh, this idea
that Kobe's going to come back and play and take
the team back over from Lebron. Kobe is retired and
that's okay, Yeah, it's okay, Kobe fans. Finally, Josh Gordon
is back on the Brown's active roster. The team decided

(01:50:22):
to clear him on Saturday. Hugh Jackson said he won't
start Week one, but he is back on the active roster.
And shortly after Josh Gordon post this posted this on
his Instagram account with the caption it was all part
of the story, even the scary nights. You know. I
root for Josh Gordon and this could be a really
one of the greatest redemption stories in sports history if

(01:50:44):
he's able to come back, because he's just so talented
and the Browns are really stuck by him. But with
all the talk that there that's being discussed now with
mental health and you know, addiction, you know, dealing with
a disease of addiction surrounding sports, I really do root
for Josh Gordon. I hope that they are able to
get him out there and he's he's able to get
things back on track, and it seems like they are

(01:51:05):
really getting him and being patient with him. Well, he
is a bizarrely talented guy, right, He just is better
than almost everybody in the league. He's right, he is
just Raw's talent. Yeah, raw talent. He's an example of that.
So I don't know, we'll see. I mean, the Browns
are so interesting to see, there's so many characters with them,
but Josh Gordon is uh. I hope just for not

(01:51:25):
just for Josh Gordon's sake, but just for the overall,
you know, movement of mental health and supporting players this
outside of just their their physical health. I hope that
he ends up succeeding. Totally agree Joey with the news.
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The
Herd Line. News coming up, I'll give you every AFC

(01:51:45):
team in three words. We do at the NBA game.
We thought we'll do AFC today, NFC tomorrow, best for last.
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Giants ninety five million dollar Maxtel sixty five million guaranteed.

(01:52:27):
One of the things that has been obvious over the
last twelve months, Joy is wide receivers are getting money now.
I believe there's two reasons behind this. Number. One is
the catch rule has been flipped, and if we suspect
and I do one more catch a game will be
allowed and not disallowed. That's four hundred, five hundred catches.

(01:52:50):
Many of those will be touchdowns. That is a very
pro wide receiver rule. The helmet rule will there'll be
one helmet rule call per game. I think that's reasonable.
Five hundred calls automatic first down. Some of those will
be in the red zone. They'll give you points, field
goal or touchdown. You are seeing NFL people react suddenly

(01:53:13):
to two rule changes, both benefiting the wide receiver. And
I also think if you start looking around the league
right now, the teams I really like Atlanta and Philadelphia
and Pittsburgh, New Orleans, Minnesota, the Rams, the Chargers, they
have dynamic playmakers. I don't believe the receiver is one

(01:53:36):
of the five most important positions, but right now in
the league, if you're playing another team with the franchise quarterback,
you better have a better have somebody that changes the
temperature of the room. And the top teams in the
league right now Philly, Pittsburgh, Rams, Atlanta, New Orleans Packers.

(01:53:57):
They've got some difference makers. That's one of my noo
it's on New England. They don't have perimeter difference makers.
I'm sorry, but Gronk is a seam guy down the middle.
But you gotta have some pop and you've got rule
changes right now in the league that are benefiting receivers.
And the Giants are like, you know what, we gotta pop.

(01:54:17):
We gotta keep our pop guy. So there you go.
Odell Beckham, beloved by fans in New York, sometimes lack
some emotional discipline, but Antonio Brown can go sideway, so
can Lavian Bell. They also make the Steelers better. Here
we go on a Monday, Best for Last. After almost
three hours, Colin apparently hasn't gotten to the point yet

(01:54:39):
quit holding out on us Cowherd. It's the best for Last.
I do this on the opening day of the NBA.
I believe very few words can describe almost any situation.
And I call it the NBA three word game that
I can literally describe an NBA team. If you didn't
watch the NBA, I could give you three words and

(01:55:00):
it would pretty much sum up the team. It's not
that difficult. You can see good, bad, and awful very quickly,
and can similarly describe good, bad and awful very quickly.
So let's do today, We'll do the AFC. Tomorrow, we'll
do the NFC The three Word Game AFC edition. Let's
start with the AFC East New England Patriots. Tom Brady's team.

(01:55:23):
It hasn't always been for a long time. This was
Belichick's reign, but Brady got Riddy Garoppolo, Brady skipped OTA's
Gronk followed suit. Brady gets his trainer on the plane.
This is now Tom Brady's team. The owner, Bob Kraft,

(01:55:45):
had to choose between the coach and the star quarterback,
and he chose the Ladder Jets. Sam I am, folks,
whether he starts Game one or not, he has looked
the best and most refined and most polished and most
durable of the first round quarterbacks. And the conversations they
are having right now in New York are not if

(01:56:09):
they're gonna trade Teddy Bridgewater. It's when they're gonna trade
Teddy Bridgewater. It's his franchised Sam Darnald Buffalo Bills no
playoff return Listen. My sources in the NFL say Buffalo's
got a real good coaching staff, they really do. But
Josh Allen with a rebuilt offensive line. You watch that

(01:56:31):
Cincinnati game. Josh Allen is not Sam Darnald. He's not
that kind of player yet. I don't think he's that
durable for sure, and him starting with a rebuilding offensive
line and brand new wide receivers. As good as that
coaching staff is in Buffalo, that's not a playoff team
as of today. Finally, Miami over the Tannehill. I'm sorry, listen,

(01:56:55):
he's coming off an injury. They're rebooting the locker room.
But I look at Tom Brady and I look at
Sam Darnold and I look at Ryan Tannehill and I'm like,
I think we've kind of hit a ceiling on this
thing a little bit. It'll be interesting to see because
I think Adam gas is a really smart offensive guy.
But boy, if Ryan doesn't pop here, where do you go?

(01:57:17):
You go and draft another quarterback? AFC West Chargers just
need a kicker. Good god, folks, they're loaded. I mean,
then Mike Williams has popped during training camp. The number
one picked last year that was hurt the wide receiver.
So now they have Keenan Allen and him. Maybe they
have questions in a little bit at tight end, but

(01:57:37):
last year, if they had a kicker, they could hit
like pats and short field goals. They're a thirteen win team.
They were red hot in the last two months. Kansas
City Chiefs Mahomes, Sweet Mahomes, I think they found their quarterback.
He's on the show tomorrow, Patrick Mahomes. He has looked
spectacular against first team defenses. We knew he had a cannon.

(01:57:59):
I'm is a little reluctant on guys with a cannon arm.
He's looked really special and his completion percentage is high.
Let me tell you something. Sammy Watkins and him haven't
connected yet, but he and Tyreek Hill looked really comfortable already. Mahomes,
Sweet Mahomes. Raiders, go excuse me. Broncos. Elway's latest case

(01:58:21):
case Keenum listen. John Elway is trying to get this
quarterback right and Paxton Lynch that didn't work, and he
got Tebo out of town and Peyton worked for a
few years and he's looking for the next Peyton. And
I don't think it's case Keenam, but in this league,
you can't be awful at quarterback. Case Keenom's not awful
at quarterback. I think they're gonna realize very quickly that

(01:58:45):
case Keenam was great because of Pat Shermer in Minnesota,
and I think they're gonna find out very quickly case
Keenum's mostly a workable see plus at best quarterback. And finally,
Raiders must win baby. John Gruden got ten years. He's
gonna be tough on players. He better win early because

(01:59:06):
if he loses early. John Gruden loving and barking football
is gonna get real old, real fast because he can
grind guys hard. So he needs to win early for
them to buy in to his style of coaching because
it is old school coaching. AFC South Texans. Does DeShawn
deliver couple of acls? My guess he does. But if

(01:59:29):
he gets hurt in the first month, Oh, Colts, good luck, charm,
Andrew Luck's back, They'll win. Stop arguing, folks. It's the
easiest betting sports. If Andrew Luck starts, the Cults are good.
Jaguars Saxonville to Lastonville. I don't buy it. Luck in

(01:59:49):
Deshaun Watson return, and I think Jacksonville goes back to
their rightful place in the AFC South and Tennessee like
their talent, but for God's sakes, tighten it up this organization.
Coaching changes, personnel, changes, lose games they should win. Tighten
it up. And finally, in the AFC North Steelers Super

(02:00:10):
Bowl bound my pick to get there and win it.
Ravens Joe Flacco's last stand. Lamar Jackson was drafted to
put heat on him. Don't kid yourself, Bengals red rifle reloaded.
I can't believe I said that, but he does offer
stability as a lot of teams in the AFC are
looking and hoping for young quarterbacks to flourish in Brown's

(02:00:35):
Mayfield of dreams. If you wielded, he will come. Baker, Baker,
touchdown maker. We'll see tomorrow. No, I got a minute left,
Mayfield of Dreams. I didn't come up with that one.
That was my favorite one in the room, and I
didn't even come up with it. Where did you go? Staff?
Good stuff? We'll see you in the her tomorrow.

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