September 22, 2017 • 28 mins
Jason Smith and Michael Harmon discuss how the recent CTE report on Aaron Hernandez may lead to the end of Pee Wee football. The guys also share their thoughts on how the Los Angeles Rams always give people something to talk about and explain why people need to pump the brakes on Jared Goff talk until he beats a quality team.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the best of that Jason Smith Show on
Fox Sports Radio. A big story today as it was
revealed that former New England patriotstar Aaron Hernandez, who was
in prison convicted of homicide, was responsible for a couple
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of homicides and killed himself in prison a few months ago.
It was revealed by his lawyer that he had a
severe case of the degenitive brain disease chronic traumatic and cephalopathy,
also known as CTE, which many NFL players have suffered
from throughout their lives and careers. CTE has stages of
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one through four, with four being the worst and the
most severe, and according to and McKee, doctor and director
of the CTE Center at Boston University, she said Hernandez
had a stage three out of four, which can cause
violent mood swings, depression, and other cognitive disorders. So Aaron
Hernandez before he killed himself CTE stage three. Forget for
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a minute about what he's done and what's next with
this story. But let's stop Pierre for a second right now.
Aaron Hernandez played forty four games in the NFL. Forty
four games. Didn't play that many didn't have a didn't
have a long career, didn't you know? It was still
was injured a little bit forty four games in his career.
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All right, this is a guy who was young, played college,
high school, peewee. So now you're seeing with this story
specifically because Aaron Hernandez is a high profile story, everything
that's going on with him his entire life, you're going
to start seeing the next The next result of CTE
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is going to be a band in pewee football. That's
gonna be where we're at. I mean, many many people
want to say, let's look twenty years down down the
line and say there's gonna be no more football. There's
be no more NFL nor more college football. Football is
gonna wind up being too dangerous. But let's let's talk
about what the next step is. Here is because Aaron
Hernandez had this level of ct E after only playing
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in the NFL for a couple of years, and it's
the NFL, the daily, the hits he's taken, that that's
what is supposed to Hey, this an undiagnosed concussions. This
is what is going to, you know, cause people to
have CTE the longer they play football. But it's obvious
that the hitting and the beatings he took, not in
just the NFL, but in college, high school before that.
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That's a very that's a very sensitive topic. You also
saw the research earlier this week of the story that
it's not good for kids younger than fourteen to play
football because that's when the brain is developing and brain injury,
as if you're playing pewee football can be a little
bit more serious. It's just a coincidence that these two
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stories come out this week. Here we are. We have
the one story during the week about the dangers of
playing when you're young, and now you have the Aaron
Hernandez story. But the next thing that's gonna be is
gonna be a bannon peewee football and you're gonna see
a big push in flag football and four kids, because
there's already flag football is incredibly popular. There are many
parents I know whose kids want to play football, and
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they're so nervous when they say flag football, and they
are all in on it, all yesh, flag football. Absolutely,
let's go play flag football. And you will see that
being what kids do because the younger kids are Eventually,
peewee football is going to go out of business because
who controls what what what goes on the moms do.
But but they're not gonna want their kids to play.
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But that's gonna be communities like that's gonna be a
community to community though. Right, we're out here in southern
California where I think there's gonna be a much larger
impact from a story like that. Then say Texas, then
say a lot of your other football strongholds. So I
I think you see it where it will be a
little more fractured. No, that's right. I think it's I mean,
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there's that because it's you're talking about peewee football, it's
not it's not high school football. What are you get
into high school football? Especially places like Texas and floor
you're talking about big money makers and programs, and hey,
kids are looking to get to the NFL and they're
you know, they're looking to be pretty good. But younger
than that, there's gonna be ay, it's very difficult to
say yes, it's safe for kids under fourteen when their
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brains are developing to play football. Well, you would have
you would have a lot of new doctor story. Yeah,
but you'd have a lot of doctors argue that we're
all still developing until we're so in theory, we shouldn't
be able to make any decisions on anything until we're
five years old. So there's a lot of information. Obviously,
we keep learning more and more. My first thought when
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this story came out was not about the suicide, was
lending it to the the Hernandez side of the the
actions and activities that he was involved in off the
field and the murders and everything else. And everybody knows
the storage because there was a law and order s
v U from a few years ago that tackled ct
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E with treat Williams as a quarterback who gets himself
into a bunch of issues and they start going into
the CTE discussion about hey, we can't prove it until
he's dead, and what do we do with this? You know,
can this be used as an excuse as a reason
that he can't he shouldn't be held liable because he's
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got this problem. So that that was we're you know,
bringing in the pop culture trying to tackle it and
make sure they keep the topical. But for for kids
playing football, I mean, you see the the inroads that
are being made. You talk about flag football, Drew Brees
getting that going in his in his home state, going
into Texas and going into now in New Orleans and
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building lee eas and we see a lot of that
going on. I don't think it gets abandoned. Think you know,
you're gonna see a little bit maybe the entry age
because I was playing at age eight. I mean I
was big enough to where I was like, all right,
you can strap pads on him, put a helmet on him,
and get him out there. But we were but we're
not moving. We're not moving towards football being safer. We're
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not moving towards football is okay. It's it's more and
more stories that if it was just the players who
played in the sixties and the seventies and the eighties,
when concussions weren't diagnosed as much and it wasn't as
much uh medical attention on it, I could understand it.
But it's not. Now it's junior say how killing himself
right after playing days are over. It's now guys who
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are in their mid twenties being diagnosed with CTE. It's
all it's all of these things that are happening. We're
not We're not stopping the backsliding in how you know, Okay,
football is safe and we're gonna move forward. It's it's
people are always gonna play, We're always gonna watch. It's
people make choices to play this game because they want
to do it. Like I always say, it's like people
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who choose to work in the coal mines because you
can go out of high school and make eighty thousand
dollars a year, and you think, Okay, this is something
that is a skill that's needed. I can do it.
I'll be okay, I'll be careful. Everybody thinks that, but
there's no there's no point where like, Okay, we've hit
rock bottom on this and now we're pushing back and
we're in the process of making things safe. It's it's
new things coming up like this. It's now now. Now
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you you talked about a timeline that's gone from first,
we're seeing guys in their sixties and seventies who have
to have a foot amputated or a finger amputated because
of what they went through their playing career. They didn't
take care of their bodies. Okay, that was one thing.
Then it was okay, guys that are suffering from dementia
and when they're older because of all the hits they took,
and okay, that's another thing. Then it was guys a
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little bit younger who were still suffering from head injuries
that they had they were undiagnosed. Okay, and then now
we're moving back down and now we're into guys in
their mid twenties. I mean, there's there's been no stopping
of this to say, Okay, now we can push back
and realize what we can do to to make the
NFL safer in all of these different things. Bigger, faster, stronger,
better scientific data. This goes in any aspect of our lives.
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Were always learning more about things thirty forty years hence,
and certainly in this respect, you know, we're we're looking
at it with a critical eye and and it's been
uh is something that that's troubling to say the least.
But we still need the incidents rate on people who
aren't football players. Still, there's there's data that you'd love
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to see compiled just for comparison's sake, and right now
that hasn't happened. Be sure to catch live editions of
that Jason Smith Show weeknights at eleven pm Eastern eight
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. The Rams are two and one. Jared Goff
has played well until now. They have played two of
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the three worst teams in the NFL. Jets is the
one you're thinking of, the one I didn't mention. The
Colts are absolutely abysmal. The Niners are absolutely abysmal. Those
two teams they played, the Redskins lost their one in six.
Scott Tolzien and Brian Hoyer are the quarterbacks Jared Goff
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has beaten. But still Jared Goff had a big night.
Brian Horror was slinging it. He was, But we're talking
about Jared Goff just because listen, I get a lot
of hate from people because of what I say about
Jared Goff. Usually make fun of his hands, yes, somewhere
in here, and you know, by the way later on
this hour, get him in things. Jared Goff is better
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than Twitter at How about a Fresca Twitter at Alberta Fresca.
Gonna play that round again? Second round tonight. We started
off tonight with the first round in our special local
hour on here in Los Angeles, a m five seventy hour,
the national show. We're doing here like we do every
single night, things. Jared Goff is better than gotta raise
your game tonight, because Jared Goff was two and three touchdowns.
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Let me see Jared Goff do it against a decent team. Okay.
The Redskins are what barely passes for decent. Pretty good,
They're okay, I mean, I mean, the Rams are are
just okay. And Jared Golf last week to through that
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horrendous pick to lose the game in the final few
minutes through one pass and hit an official in the head, okay,
So let me see Jared Goff do it against a
team that is not dead from the neck up at
Dallas to happen. He takes apart Dallas, then we can
have a conversation. Although Trevor Simeon took a part Dallas,
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but then we can have more of a conversation. You're
trying to be dismissive there. I'm just saying what listen,
Trevor Simeon, I know as smarter than Jared Goff. He
knows where the sun sets. He went to north Western.
I'll give that to Simeon right off the bat. But
let's tap the brakes on Jared Golf. Tap that's tapped
the brakes because these teams are abysmal. These teams are horrible.
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I want to live in the now, though I know
it's great, buddy, from where we were, from where we
were a year ago, when we were watching ineptitude at
every level, and I kept telling you to pump the
brakes on on your your vitriol and your rants on
on Golf, then saying, what's he working with? Bad offensive line?
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Greg Robinson was the guy with the velvet rope, saying, oh,
you look good enough to get in, go ahead, and
he let any defender walk right in on Jared Golf.
He's now in Detroit, so good luck with that, Matthew Stafford.
But the offensive line was terrible. You had no discernible
playmakers in your receiving corps whatsoever. Tavon Austin got paid
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like one. Good for him, Good for him, all right,
But the fact of the matter is you couldn't throw
the ball down field to him. It became end around
and gadgetry, just like it was tonight. Here's some gadgetry play,
oh yeah, and a fumble from him. So he negated
anything he did positively on the offensive end. And then
Todd Gurley couldn't fall forward. Partly his fault, partly out
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of shape. The other part was that bad offensive line
play and no semblance of balance whatsoever. So now you
have a competent offense, you import a couple of wide
receivers from Buffalo. Sorry, Eric, that's the key. Just get
as many players from Buffalo and well they're excited to
get many bills directed their careers are. And all of
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a sudden you got two guys over a hundred yards.
Tonight Mark Goodwin made a big catch. Did you see him?
Toe tap? Oh? That was beautiful. Not that Marky's good
one is going to become a thing, But for tonight,
you know what, he came to play and delivered a
big catch. Again losing effort, but as we saw it,
you had Jared Goff. They put up forty one. It's
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I mean, defense made big plays at the end. Aaron
Donald gets a big sack at the end. And you know,
I'm gonna push all in. But at least for now,
you know what, they're at least entertaining to watch. Yes,
and we saw a great Thursday night game. Yeah, you know,
I'm okay, I'm okay with seeing you know, Look, I'm
a big you know, I think about Thursday Night football,
but tonight was awesome because we had a lot of
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points and it was a close game, and it was
still early enough in the season that we cared about
these two teams. So that's that was the big key.
We're always gonna care if this is a Thursday night
game week fifteen. I don't know if people are gonna care,
but let's let's let's say so this is the real
key to take away from tonight. Todd Gurley also had
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a huge night the Expert Fantasy League. I'm happy, I'm in.
I had Jared Goff going, I'm happy, gave me twenty
four points. I'm look and I'm losing because the guy
had Todd Gurley going. Thanks so much. But this is
what the Rams have done right, and this is why
Jared Goff is enjoying an okay start and a really
great night tonight, but an okay start to two thousand seventeen.
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They have surrounded him with people who can make plays. Now,
you always knew Todd Gurley had the talent. You had
to improve the offensive line a little bit, which you did,
and Todd Gurley had his best night of the season.
Tonight hundred and thirteen yards and three touchdowns. Sammy Watkins
is the difference maker. Sammy Watkins is what turns this
offense from pedestrian too. They can put points on the
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board because he is that good. I know, Gurley and
Golf are gonna get all the attention tonight, and they
will look the glamor, the glamor quarterback, the glamor running
back who we all fell in love with two years ago.
All right, Sammy Watkins is legit. Trust me. I watched
his kid play in Buffalo. He has all the talent
he needed to get out of there. He needed to
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be in a situation where he could stay healthy. Health
is always gonna be a thing. But now he's out
of the cold weather in Buffalo where hamstrings and achilles
and all those kinds of things can can linger on you.
Now and you watch tonight, he made plays. He was
the most dangerous player on the field. He made a
catch on a rainbow throw from Jared Goff that should
have been incomplete, but instead he straight up over his
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shoulders and makes a catch for forty yards. His second touchdown,
he caught at the five yard line and bulldozed over guys,
and then when he was getting taken down twisted his
body stayed up long enough to put the ball over
the goal line. Sammy Watkins is legit. He is the guy.
And if he can play like this, this Rams team,
they can surprise you all through the NFC West. Because
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you know what, the NFC West kind of stinks. It
kind of stinks out loud because you look at the
Seattle Seahawks and they could barely put points on the
board against the Niners at home, and here the Rams
go on the road and the Thursday night and put
forty one on the board. Jared Goff lights you up
for three touchdowns? Is Seattle really that good? What's the
the NFC West is up for grabs now because watching
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what they did tonight, I know everybody thinks the Seahawks
is gonna they're gonna, you know, flip the page week
said in Week eight and the defense is gonna play
great and something there. It just doesn't happen that way.
It just doesn't. The NFC What's is up for grabs
mainly because it stinks. But I gotta give the Rams
credit and their offense credit for playing tonight. But when
you have a quarterback who may not be the franchise
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guy you expect him to be, he can still be
good if you surround him with talent. I always say this,
This is why Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger,
these guys are good year after year. Why Because teams
always go through the draft and they get talent. They
keep bringing guys in who they think are gonna be good. Now,
not every guy works, but when you bring in two
or three guys a year, here's two new receivers, a
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new running back, here's two new running backs. Receiver, here's
a tight end. Here's this. You're gonna hit on one
guy as long as you draft. Okay, you're gonna hit
on one guy a year, and as long as you
keep doing that, you're gonna keep contending. It's no secret
why the team is a great quote. We keep getting
him out. Let's just keep going, keep going, keep going,
keep going, and you find guys. The Rams finally realized, hey,
we got a number one overall pick. We gotta get him. Help.
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They go get Sammy Watchins and now they have over
a hundred points in their first three games. Took them
over six games to get to that point last year,
what's gonna be fun to watch those You're playing the
a f C South, so you've got some defensive work
that that will come after Jared Goff, but offenses, you're
not scared of winnable games. When you start talking about
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playing Jacksonville and playing Houston and later on, they don't
get Tennessee un till their fift game of the year,
but by then we'll really know what Tennessee is all about.
But certainly some winnable games on the slate, and if
nothing else you're putting on points might be bad teams
off the jump, but you can get a little bit
of positivity, a little bit of momentum, and Sean McVeigh
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can get a little more creative in the play calling.
It's gonna be fun to watch. And people here in
Los Angeles where we locate. We're located in the Geico Studios.
You're gonna at least start hearing some rumblings, people getting excited.
It's not just Donald, it's not just Rosen anymore. Look
at that l A is the home for quarterbacks. Be
sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show
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weeknights at eleven pm Eastern, eight pm Pacific, Jared Golf.
Everybody's excited. It's fun. But I feel like I need
to be the Tom Hanks at the part of the
League of the Road when he comes out in the
last stanning in the middle of the movie and he says, well,
game's getting pretty exciting, isn't it. Everybody's got to relax
about Jared goff Jared Goffin was really good tonight. He
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was really good. But but but it's Thursday night. It's
the only game they played the forty Niners, who stink
out loud. The other big game he had was against
the Colts, who stink out loud. The worst teams in
the NFL this year will be the Colts, eat the
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Jets and the Cardinals. Those are your four worst teams
in the NFL. That's how bad they're gonna tapped the
brakes because Jared goff has had two big games against
two of the four worst teams in the league. In
the league, right, it's nice. What he's done is nice.
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I'm not saying it's not. It's hell and gone from
last year when he was clearly just absolutely awful. I
don't buy him as an overall franchise quarterback. But when
I said, hey, Jared Goff stinks, you're talking about a
guy that was taking number one overall and Jared Goff,
the ceiling for him is can he be a good quarterback,
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a decent quarterback if you surround him with a lot
of weapons. And that's the one thing the Rams did
that was really smart. They knew finally after not getting
Sam Bradford weapons for years, they know, Okay, you know what,
we have a guy. We drafted him number one overall.
Let's go get him some melt so we don't have
another year where Tavon Austin is once again the best
weapon on the offense. You have number one. I keep
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I asked the question at the I am I asking again.
That's the worst, that's the worst conscience. Good on them. Look,
I don't like most people go after the player. I
don't go after the player. If you get them to
put a couple of extra zeros, an extra comma and wait,
that's not a one, that's a four, it's really a four,
and you give him a bunch of cash. Good on,
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But to pay him like a number one when the
only way you can get him open is by gadgetry.
Here's an end around. How many times did they fake
the end around tonight? That was the all they can do.
The best thing they did was say, let's go get
you weapons. So, like like I say all the time,
when you have a franchise quarterback, you gotta keep getting
these guys. When you have a guy that could be
that good, or you take them that high in the draft,
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you gotta go out and get him offensive help. You can't.
You can't get by guys like guys that are the
top one tent to one percent of all NFL quarterbacks.
They'll make anybody better, but you need to keep going
to get them help. The Rams finally realize, let's go
get them help, so they drafted Cooper Cup who they
really liked to turn out to be really good. Didn't
have a great game tonight, but he's turned out to
have a nice rapport with him. Sammy Watkins is a star.
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Sammy Watkins is a star. He's got everything you need
in a wide receiver, intermediate routes, short routes, deep routes.
He can do everything. Why did Jared Goff have a
big night tonight? How many times did Sammy Watkins catch
the ball and make an incredible play. After his forty
seven yard reception, golfer just threw it up in the
air and Sammy Watkins caught the most difficult ball you
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can catch in the NFL, running straight out, looking back
over your head, not over your shoulder, but straight over
your head, and he caught the ball in the midst
of two Forts defenders. Beautiful. His second touchdown, he was
wide open at the five yard line and as the
Niners defenders closed in on him, he got to the
He got to the goal line, twisted his body and
stayed up in the air long enough using a Niners
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guy is like a shield to keep him up and
put the ball over the goal long. Yeah, he did
the Gator death roll. He's orange the goal on. Trust me.
I've seen so much of Sammy Watkins over the last
few years in the a f C the East. He's
that good. He needed to get out of Buffalo. He
needed to change the scene. Healthy, right, and you know,
not having to play in the cold weather all the time.
Certainly that's gonna help when you're dinged up with hamstring
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to all those kinds of things. He is legit. He
is the reason why Golf had a big night. But
this is where the credit really should be due for
the Rams is that they have gotten the guys around
Jared Golf to make him succeed. Right the two years
the Jets went to the ANC Championship game, was Mark
Sanchez great? No, But they had a lot of weapons
around him so he was able to do well enough
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to get to the play. Anybody that has done you
look and said, look at the weapons you had. Why
was Tony Romos are good for so long? Because the
Cowboys kept getting him weapons and they kept putting guys
around him that were that good. Other guys could have
done what Tony Romo did, but the Cowboys kept bringing weapons,
kept bringing weapons, kept bringing weapons, kept cycling guys in,
and Tony Romo had wanted up having a great career
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the Rams, this is the best thing they did was
go out and get Sammy Watkins. When they made that move,
You and I were on the air in l A
at AM five seventy with a news broke. We were
filling it on the midday show and we said, this
is a game changing move. Sammy Watkins is just that
kind of guy. No, And that's just it. You needed
a guy that could could stretch the field. And as
we we've seen just through this short sample size where
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you're utilizing him in in all fast of the game,
the quick slant routes the middle of the field that
he will operate in the middle of the field. Now,
I want to blown up picture of the facial expression
when he realized there was nobody within ten yards of
him and he caught that ball for the second touchdown.
You're looking around, go where are the defenders? Because they
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bunched three to the left and he was the middleman
and he came across the middle and walked into the
defensive secondary and looked around like where's the defender? And
so as he catches the ball. Just confusion, but the
fact that you have a guy that you can trust
a to go up and get it. You talk about
that great pass down the left sideline, uh left to
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left to right based on how you're watching television, So
he's a left sideline and going up for the ball
to defenders creating separation. You saw him fight for the
ball in red zone situations and Jared Goff far more confident.
Now we'll see whether the run game and as good
as game as Todd Gurley had tonight, there were times
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when that offensive line couldn't get any pushed in those
short yard and situations. So that's something to watch as
the season goes on. But Jared Goff right now, this
stat is coming from NFL Research their Twitter account tonight
seven and seven for with the three touchdown passes for
the year, red zone efficiency eleven of eleven, five touchdowns,
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and Tom Looney's favorite quarterback rating one s. You know,
the one thing about the Rams is this, and it
feels like, if you're listening to the show tonight, just
think about this for a second. Jason Smith showed Jason
Mike Harmon most of the show tonight has centered around
Thursday Night Football, which it normally should because you know,
this is what we do when we're a sports standalone
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game and and all of those things, and we actually
got entertainment. But this is the Rams and the Forts.
And still you look at all the top trending topics
on Twitter and it's Rams, Todd Gurley, Sammy Watkins and
then you go down l A versus San Francisco, Carlos Hide,
Brian Hoyer. The Rams have a mystique about them in
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that they're interesting to talk about. They are so interesting
to Last year when they moved to l A, they
were interesting to talk about that. There's many teams in
the NFL that are good or that are really bad,
but they're hard to talk about because they don't really
have stuff that jumps up and grabs you. It's very
difficult if you're really good. There's always the Patriots. There's
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always things to talk about, Always things with the Pages,
whether it's Brady Belichick somebody else. There's always how much
water exactly? We'll get to the coming up in a
couple of minutes, because that's just too good to not
talk about. Uh, you know, a team as bad as
the Jets, there's always something they're shooting themselves in the foot.
They're always interesting to talk about. The Raiders because of
the mystique of the Raiders, and and Derek Carr and
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moving to there's always the Rams. Always give you something
to talk about, whether it's golf or it's girly, or
it's Los Angeles. And then hey, we can have fun
and talk about Johnny Hecker. And then there's Aaron Donald
and it just keeps going, keeps cycling through because there's
a big spotlight on them because of the newness of
the Los Angeles market and the players they have. There's
that mystique in that I'm interested, and I think the
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general public is interested in the Rams of teams you
want to talk about, why do the Giants always on
Monday Night football Thursday Football side because of Adell Beckham Jr.
Because they're interesting, We're interested. Talking about the Giants is interesting,
whether it's Eli Manning Odell, whatever, it is. The mystique
some teams they're just more interesting to talk about, and
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the Rams are one of those teams. Well, we know
about the NFC East is always going to get extra
play as well when you're trying to go through your
television markets as you go. But for the Rams, been
an interesting run, right, the amount of picks and compensation
to trade up to get Jared Goff In a year,
you're coming back to Los Angeles where you're as we
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sat here in the in the Geico studios looking at
each other, going you're already you're coming back to l
A football is returning to l after twenty years. You
don't need to make the splash with the quarterback. We've
made that argument. I know Jonas and I Jonas Knox
or teammate here at Fox Sports Trading. We talked about
that a bunch as well, breaking down fantasy stuff and
segueing into in the football chat that you didn't need
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to make that push, but now you're seeing the dividends
being paid into what in a year, how changing out
of coaching staff, changing out of philosophy, and a bit
of personnel wizardry, as it would seem. In other words,
fleecing the Buffalo Bills is paying off in a big way.
Because here's another stat that just came down rams explosive
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plays right twenty plus yards fifteen or eighty last year
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This is the best of that Jason Smith Show on
Fox Sports Radio. A big story today as it was
revealed that former New England patriotstar Aaron Hernandez, who was
in prison convicted of homicide, was responsible for a couple
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of homicides and killed himself in prison a few months ago.
It was revealed by his lawyer that he had a
severe case of the degenitive brain disease chronic traumatic and cephalopathy,
also known as CTE, which many NFL players have suffered
from throughout their lives and careers. CTE has stages of
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one through four, with four being the worst and the
most severe, and according to and McKee, doctor and director
of the CTE Center at Boston University, she said Hernandez
had a stage three out of four, which can cause
violent mood swings, depression, and other cognitive disorders. So Aaron
Hernandez before he killed himself CTE stage three. Forget for
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a minute about what he's done and what's next with
this story. But let's stop Pierre for a second right now.
Aaron Hernandez played forty four games in the NFL. Forty
four games. Didn't play that many didn't have a didn't
have a long career, didn't you know? It was still
was injured a little bit forty four games in his career.
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All right, this is a guy who was young, played college,
high school, peewee. So now you're seeing with this story
specifically because Aaron Hernandez is a high profile story, everything
that's going on with him his entire life, you're going
to start seeing the next The next result of CTE
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is going to be a band in pewee football. That's
gonna be where we're at. I mean, many many people
want to say, let's look twenty years down down the
line and say there's gonna be no more football. There's
be no more NFL nor more college football. Football is
gonna wind up being too dangerous. But let's let's talk
about what the next step is. Here is because Aaron
Hernandez had this level of ct E after only playing
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in the NFL for a couple of years, and it's
the NFL, the daily, the hits he's taken, that that's
what is supposed to Hey, this an undiagnosed concussions. This
is what is going to, you know, cause people to
have CTE the longer they play football. But it's obvious
that the hitting and the beatings he took, not in
just the NFL, but in college, high school before that.
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That's a very that's a very sensitive topic. You also
saw the research earlier this week of the story that
it's not good for kids younger than fourteen to play
football because that's when the brain is developing and brain injury,
as if you're playing pewee football can be a little
bit more serious. It's just a coincidence that these two
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stories come out this week. Here we are. We have
the one story during the week about the dangers of
playing when you're young, and now you have the Aaron
Hernandez story. But the next thing that's gonna be is
gonna be a bannon peewee football and you're gonna see
a big push in flag football and four kids, because
there's already flag football is incredibly popular. There are many
parents I know whose kids want to play football, and
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they're so nervous when they say flag football, and they
are all in on it, all yesh, flag football. Absolutely,
let's go play flag football. And you will see that
being what kids do because the younger kids are Eventually,
peewee football is going to go out of business because
who controls what what what goes on the moms do.
But but they're not gonna want their kids to play.
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But that's gonna be communities like that's gonna be a
community to community though. Right, we're out here in southern
California where I think there's gonna be a much larger
impact from a story like that. Then say Texas, then
say a lot of your other football strongholds. So I
I think you see it where it will be a
little more fractured. No, that's right. I think it's I mean,
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there's that because it's you're talking about peewee football, it's
not it's not high school football. What are you get
into high school football? Especially places like Texas and floor
you're talking about big money makers and programs, and hey,
kids are looking to get to the NFL and they're
you know, they're looking to be pretty good. But younger
than that, there's gonna be ay, it's very difficult to
say yes, it's safe for kids under fourteen when their
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brains are developing to play football. Well, you would have
you would have a lot of new doctor story. Yeah,
but you'd have a lot of doctors argue that we're
all still developing until we're so in theory, we shouldn't
be able to make any decisions on anything until we're
five years old. So there's a lot of information. Obviously,
we keep learning more and more. My first thought when
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this story came out was not about the suicide, was
lending it to the the Hernandez side of the the
actions and activities that he was involved in off the
field and the murders and everything else. And everybody knows
the storage because there was a law and order s
v U from a few years ago that tackled ct
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E with treat Williams as a quarterback who gets himself
into a bunch of issues and they start going into
the CTE discussion about hey, we can't prove it until
he's dead, and what do we do with this? You know,
can this be used as an excuse as a reason
that he can't he shouldn't be held liable because he's
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got this problem. So that that was we're you know,
bringing in the pop culture trying to tackle it and
make sure they keep the topical. But for for kids
playing football, I mean, you see the the inroads that
are being made. You talk about flag football, Drew Brees
getting that going in his in his home state, going
into Texas and going into now in New Orleans and
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building lee eas and we see a lot of that
going on. I don't think it gets abandoned. Think you know,
you're gonna see a little bit maybe the entry age
because I was playing at age eight. I mean I
was big enough to where I was like, all right,
you can strap pads on him, put a helmet on him,
and get him out there. But we were but we're
not moving. We're not moving towards football being safer. We're
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not moving towards football is okay. It's it's more and
more stories that if it was just the players who
played in the sixties and the seventies and the eighties,
when concussions weren't diagnosed as much and it wasn't as
much uh medical attention on it, I could understand it.
But it's not. Now it's junior say how killing himself
right after playing days are over. It's now guys who
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are in their mid twenties being diagnosed with CTE. It's
all it's all of these things that are happening. We're
not We're not stopping the backsliding in how you know, Okay,
football is safe and we're gonna move forward. It's it's
people are always gonna play, We're always gonna watch. It's
people make choices to play this game because they want
to do it. Like I always say, it's like people
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who choose to work in the coal mines because you
can go out of high school and make eighty thousand
dollars a year, and you think, Okay, this is something
that is a skill that's needed. I can do it.
I'll be okay, I'll be careful. Everybody thinks that, but
there's no there's no point where like, Okay, we've hit
rock bottom on this and now we're pushing back and
we're in the process of making things safe. It's it's
new things coming up like this. It's now now. Now
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you you talked about a timeline that's gone from first,
we're seeing guys in their sixties and seventies who have
to have a foot amputated or a finger amputated because
of what they went through their playing career. They didn't
take care of their bodies. Okay, that was one thing.
Then it was okay, guys that are suffering from dementia
and when they're older because of all the hits they took,
and okay, that's another thing. Then it was guys a
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little bit younger who were still suffering from head injuries
that they had they were undiagnosed. Okay, and then now
we're moving back down and now we're into guys in
their mid twenties. I mean, there's there's been no stopping
of this to say, Okay, now we can push back
and realize what we can do to to make the
NFL safer in all of these different things. Bigger, faster, stronger,
better scientific data. This goes in any aspect of our lives.
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Were always learning more about things thirty forty years hence,
and certainly in this respect, you know, we're we're looking
at it with a critical eye and and it's been
uh is something that that's troubling to say the least.
But we still need the incidents rate on people who
aren't football players. Still, there's there's data that you'd love
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to see compiled just for comparison's sake, and right now
that hasn't happened. Be sure to catch live editions of
that Jason Smith Show weeknights at eleven pm Eastern eight
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart
Radio app. The Rams are two and one. Jared Goff
has played well until now. They have played two of
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the three worst teams in the NFL. Jets is the
one you're thinking of, the one I didn't mention. The
Colts are absolutely abysmal. The Niners are absolutely abysmal. Those
two teams they played, the Redskins lost their one in six.
Scott Tolzien and Brian Hoyer are the quarterbacks Jared Goff
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has beaten. But still Jared Goff had a big night.
Brian Horror was slinging it. He was, But we're talking
about Jared Goff just because listen, I get a lot
of hate from people because of what I say about
Jared Goff. Usually make fun of his hands, yes, somewhere
in here, and you know, by the way later on
this hour, get him in things. Jared Goff is better
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than Twitter at How about a Fresca Twitter at Alberta Fresca.
Gonna play that round again? Second round tonight. We started
off tonight with the first round in our special local
hour on here in Los Angeles, a m five seventy hour,
the national show. We're doing here like we do every
single night, things. Jared Goff is better than gotta raise
your game tonight, because Jared Goff was two and three touchdowns.
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Let me see Jared Goff do it against a decent team. Okay.
The Redskins are what barely passes for decent. Pretty good,
They're okay, I mean, I mean, the Rams are are
just okay. And Jared Golf last week to through that
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horrendous pick to lose the game in the final few
minutes through one pass and hit an official in the head, okay,
So let me see Jared Goff do it against a
team that is not dead from the neck up at
Dallas to happen. He takes apart Dallas, then we can
have a conversation. Although Trevor Simeon took a part Dallas,
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but then we can have more of a conversation. You're
trying to be dismissive there. I'm just saying what listen,
Trevor Simeon, I know as smarter than Jared Goff. He
knows where the sun sets. He went to north Western.
I'll give that to Simeon right off the bat. But
let's tap the brakes on Jared Golf. Tap that's tapped
the brakes because these teams are abysmal. These teams are horrible.
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I want to live in the now, though I know
it's great, buddy, from where we were, from where we
were a year ago, when we were watching ineptitude at
every level, and I kept telling you to pump the
brakes on on your your vitriol and your rants on
on Golf, then saying, what's he working with? Bad offensive line?
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Greg Robinson was the guy with the velvet rope, saying, oh,
you look good enough to get in, go ahead, and
he let any defender walk right in on Jared Golf.
He's now in Detroit, so good luck with that, Matthew Stafford.
But the offensive line was terrible. You had no discernible
playmakers in your receiving corps whatsoever. Tavon Austin got paid
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like one. Good for him, Good for him, all right,
But the fact of the matter is you couldn't throw
the ball down field to him. It became end around
and gadgetry, just like it was tonight. Here's some gadgetry play,
oh yeah, and a fumble from him. So he negated
anything he did positively on the offensive end. And then
Todd Gurley couldn't fall forward. Partly his fault, partly out
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of shape. The other part was that bad offensive line
play and no semblance of balance whatsoever. So now you
have a competent offense, you import a couple of wide
receivers from Buffalo. Sorry, Eric, that's the key. Just get
as many players from Buffalo and well they're excited to
get many bills directed their careers are. And all of
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a sudden you got two guys over a hundred yards.
Tonight Mark Goodwin made a big catch. Did you see him?
Toe tap? Oh? That was beautiful. Not that Marky's good
one is going to become a thing, But for tonight,
you know what, he came to play and delivered a
big catch. Again losing effort, but as we saw it,
you had Jared Goff. They put up forty one. It's
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I mean, defense made big plays at the end. Aaron
Donald gets a big sack at the end. And you know,
I'm gonna push all in. But at least for now,
you know what, they're at least entertaining to watch. Yes,
and we saw a great Thursday night game. Yeah, you know,
I'm okay, I'm okay with seeing you know, Look, I'm
a big you know, I think about Thursday Night football,
but tonight was awesome because we had a lot of
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points and it was a close game, and it was
still early enough in the season that we cared about
these two teams. So that's that was the big key.
We're always gonna care if this is a Thursday night
game week fifteen. I don't know if people are gonna care,
but let's let's let's say so this is the real
key to take away from tonight. Todd Gurley also had
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a huge night the Expert Fantasy League. I'm happy, I'm in.
I had Jared Goff going, I'm happy, gave me twenty
four points. I'm look and I'm losing because the guy
had Todd Gurley going. Thanks so much. But this is
what the Rams have done right, and this is why
Jared Goff is enjoying an okay start and a really
great night tonight, but an okay start to two thousand seventeen.
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They have surrounded him with people who can make plays. Now,
you always knew Todd Gurley had the talent. You had
to improve the offensive line a little bit, which you did,
and Todd Gurley had his best night of the season.
Tonight hundred and thirteen yards and three touchdowns. Sammy Watkins
is the difference maker. Sammy Watkins is what turns this
offense from pedestrian too. They can put points on the
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board because he is that good. I know, Gurley and
Golf are gonna get all the attention tonight, and they
will look the glamor, the glamor quarterback, the glamor running
back who we all fell in love with two years ago.
All right, Sammy Watkins is legit. Trust me. I watched
his kid play in Buffalo. He has all the talent
he needed to get out of there. He needed to
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be in a situation where he could stay healthy. Health
is always gonna be a thing. But now he's out
of the cold weather in Buffalo where hamstrings and achilles
and all those kinds of things can can linger on you.
Now and you watch tonight, he made plays. He was
the most dangerous player on the field. He made a
catch on a rainbow throw from Jared Goff that should
have been incomplete, but instead he straight up over his
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shoulders and makes a catch for forty yards. His second touchdown,
he caught at the five yard line and bulldozed over guys,
and then when he was getting taken down twisted his
body stayed up long enough to put the ball over
the goal line. Sammy Watkins is legit. He is the guy.
And if he can play like this, this Rams team,
they can surprise you all through the NFC West. Because
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you know what, the NFC West kind of stinks. It
kind of stinks out loud because you look at the
Seattle Seahawks and they could barely put points on the
board against the Niners at home, and here the Rams
go on the road and the Thursday night and put
forty one on the board. Jared Goff lights you up
for three touchdowns? Is Seattle really that good? What's the
the NFC West is up for grabs now because watching
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what they did tonight, I know everybody thinks the Seahawks
is gonna they're gonna, you know, flip the page week
said in Week eight and the defense is gonna play
great and something there. It just doesn't happen that way.
It just doesn't. The NFC What's is up for grabs
mainly because it stinks. But I gotta give the Rams
credit and their offense credit for playing tonight. But when
you have a quarterback who may not be the franchise
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guy you expect him to be, he can still be
good if you surround him with talent. I always say this,
This is why Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger,
these guys are good year after year. Why Because teams
always go through the draft and they get talent. They
keep bringing guys in who they think are gonna be good. Now,
not every guy works, but when you bring in two
or three guys a year, here's two new receivers, a
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new running back, here's two new running backs. Receiver, here's
a tight end. Here's this. You're gonna hit on one
guy as long as you draft. Okay, you're gonna hit
on one guy a year, and as long as you
keep doing that, you're gonna keep contending. It's no secret
why the team is a great quote. We keep getting
him out. Let's just keep going, keep going, keep going,
keep going, and you find guys. The Rams finally realized, hey,
we got a number one overall pick. We gotta get him. Help.
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They go get Sammy Watchins and now they have over
a hundred points in their first three games. Took them
over six games to get to that point last year,
what's gonna be fun to watch those You're playing the
a f C South, so you've got some defensive work
that that will come after Jared Goff, but offenses, you're
not scared of winnable games. When you start talking about
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playing Jacksonville and playing Houston and later on, they don't
get Tennessee un till their fift game of the year,
but by then we'll really know what Tennessee is all about.
But certainly some winnable games on the slate, and if
nothing else you're putting on points might be bad teams
off the jump, but you can get a little bit
of positivity, a little bit of momentum, and Sean McVeigh
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can get a little more creative in the play calling.
It's gonna be fun to watch. And people here in
Los Angeles where we locate. We're located in the Geico Studios.
You're gonna at least start hearing some rumblings, people getting excited.
It's not just Donald, it's not just Rosen anymore. Look
at that l A is the home for quarterbacks. Be
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weeknights at eleven pm Eastern, eight pm Pacific, Jared Golf.
Everybody's excited. It's fun. But I feel like I need
to be the Tom Hanks at the part of the
League of the Road when he comes out in the
last stanning in the middle of the movie and he says, well,
game's getting pretty exciting, isn't it. Everybody's got to relax
about Jared goff Jared Goffin was really good tonight. He
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was really good. But but but it's Thursday night. It's
the only game they played the forty Niners, who stink
out loud. The other big game he had was against
the Colts, who stink out loud. The worst teams in
the NFL this year will be the Colts, eat the
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Jets and the Cardinals. Those are your four worst teams
in the NFL. That's how bad they're gonna tapped the
brakes because Jared goff has had two big games against
two of the four worst teams in the league. In
the league, right, it's nice. What he's done is nice.
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I'm not saying it's not. It's hell and gone from
last year when he was clearly just absolutely awful. I
don't buy him as an overall franchise quarterback. But when
I said, hey, Jared Goff stinks, you're talking about a
guy that was taking number one overall and Jared Goff,
the ceiling for him is can he be a good quarterback,
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a decent quarterback if you surround him with a lot
of weapons. And that's the one thing the Rams did
that was really smart. They knew finally after not getting
Sam Bradford weapons for years, they know, Okay, you know what,
we have a guy. We drafted him number one overall.
Let's go get him some melt so we don't have
another year where Tavon Austin is once again the best
weapon on the offense. You have number one. I keep
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I asked the question at the I am I asking again.
That's the worst, that's the worst conscience. Good on them. Look,
I don't like most people go after the player. I
don't go after the player. If you get them to
put a couple of extra zeros, an extra comma and wait,
that's not a one, that's a four, it's really a four,
and you give him a bunch of cash. Good on,
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But to pay him like a number one when the
only way you can get him open is by gadgetry.
Here's an end around. How many times did they fake
the end around tonight? That was the all they can do.
The best thing they did was say, let's go get
you weapons. So, like like I say all the time,
when you have a franchise quarterback, you gotta keep getting
these guys. When you have a guy that could be
that good, or you take them that high in the draft,
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you gotta go out and get him offensive help. You can't.
You can't get by guys like guys that are the
top one tent to one percent of all NFL quarterbacks.
They'll make anybody better, but you need to keep going
to get them help. The Rams finally realize, let's go
get them help, so they drafted Cooper Cup who they
really liked to turn out to be really good. Didn't
have a great game tonight, but he's turned out to
have a nice rapport with him. Sammy Watkins is a star.
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Sammy Watkins is a star. He's got everything you need
in a wide receiver, intermediate routes, short routes, deep routes.
He can do everything. Why did Jared Goff have a
big night tonight? How many times did Sammy Watkins catch
the ball and make an incredible play. After his forty
seven yard reception, golfer just threw it up in the
air and Sammy Watkins caught the most difficult ball you
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can catch in the NFL, running straight out, looking back
over your head, not over your shoulder, but straight over
your head, and he caught the ball in the midst
of two Forts defenders. Beautiful. His second touchdown, he was
wide open at the five yard line and as the
Niners defenders closed in on him, he got to the
He got to the goal line, twisted his body and
stayed up in the air long enough using a Niners
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guy is like a shield to keep him up and
put the ball over the goal long. Yeah, he did
the Gator death roll. He's orange the goal on. Trust me.
I've seen so much of Sammy Watkins over the last
few years in the a f C the East. He's
that good. He needed to get out of Buffalo. He
needed to change the scene. Healthy, right, and you know,
not having to play in the cold weather all the time.
Certainly that's gonna help when you're dinged up with hamstring
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to all those kinds of things. He is legit. He
is the reason why Golf had a big night. But
this is where the credit really should be due for
the Rams is that they have gotten the guys around
Jared Golf to make him succeed. Right the two years
the Jets went to the ANC Championship game, was Mark
Sanchez great? No, But they had a lot of weapons
around him so he was able to do well enough
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to get to the play. Anybody that has done you
look and said, look at the weapons you had. Why
was Tony Romos are good for so long? Because the
Cowboys kept getting him weapons and they kept putting guys
around him that were that good. Other guys could have
done what Tony Romo did, but the Cowboys kept bringing weapons,
kept bringing weapons, kept bringing weapons, kept cycling guys in,
and Tony Romo had wanted up having a great career
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the Rams, this is the best thing they did was
go out and get Sammy Watkins. When they made that move,
You and I were on the air in l A
at AM five seventy with a news broke. We were
filling it on the midday show and we said, this
is a game changing move. Sammy Watkins is just that
kind of guy. No, And that's just it. You needed
a guy that could could stretch the field. And as
we we've seen just through this short sample size where
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you're utilizing him in in all fast of the game,
the quick slant routes the middle of the field that
he will operate in the middle of the field. Now,
I want to blown up picture of the facial expression
when he realized there was nobody within ten yards of
him and he caught that ball for the second touchdown.
You're looking around, go where are the defenders? Because they
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bunched three to the left and he was the middleman
and he came across the middle and walked into the
defensive secondary and looked around like where's the defender? And
so as he catches the ball. Just confusion, but the
fact that you have a guy that you can trust
a to go up and get it. You talk about
that great pass down the left sideline, uh left to
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left to right based on how you're watching television, So
he's a left sideline and going up for the ball
to defenders creating separation. You saw him fight for the
ball in red zone situations and Jared Goff far more confident.
Now we'll see whether the run game and as good
as game as Todd Gurley had tonight, there were times
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when that offensive line couldn't get any pushed in those
short yard and situations. So that's something to watch as
the season goes on. But Jared Goff right now, this
stat is coming from NFL Research their Twitter account tonight
seven and seven for with the three touchdown passes for
the year, red zone efficiency eleven of eleven, five touchdowns,
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and Tom Looney's favorite quarterback rating one s. You know,
the one thing about the Rams is this, and it
feels like, if you're listening to the show tonight, just
think about this for a second. Jason Smith showed Jason
Mike Harmon most of the show tonight has centered around
Thursday Night Football, which it normally should because you know,
this is what we do when we're a sports standalone
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game and and all of those things, and we actually
got entertainment. But this is the Rams and the Forts.
And still you look at all the top trending topics
on Twitter and it's Rams, Todd Gurley, Sammy Watkins and
then you go down l A versus San Francisco, Carlos Hide,
Brian Hoyer. The Rams have a mystique about them in
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that they're interesting to talk about. They are so interesting
to Last year when they moved to l A, they
were interesting to talk about that. There's many teams in
the NFL that are good or that are really bad,
but they're hard to talk about because they don't really
have stuff that jumps up and grabs you. It's very
difficult if you're really good. There's always the Patriots. There's
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always things to talk about, Always things with the Pages,
whether it's Brady Belichick somebody else. There's always how much
water exactly? We'll get to the coming up in a
couple of minutes, because that's just too good to not
talk about. Uh, you know, a team as bad as
the Jets, there's always something they're shooting themselves in the foot.
They're always interesting to talk about. The Raiders because of
the mystique of the Raiders, and and Derek Carr and
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moving to there's always the Rams. Always give you something
to talk about, whether it's golf or it's girly, or
it's Los Angeles. And then hey, we can have fun
and talk about Johnny Hecker. And then there's Aaron Donald
and it just keeps going, keeps cycling through because there's
a big spotlight on them because of the newness of
the Los Angeles market and the players they have. There's
that mystique in that I'm interested, and I think the
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general public is interested in the Rams of teams you
want to talk about, why do the Giants always on
Monday Night football Thursday Football side because of Adell Beckham Jr.
Because they're interesting, We're interested. Talking about the Giants is interesting,
whether it's Eli Manning Odell, whatever, it is. The mystique
some teams they're just more interesting to talk about, and
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the Rams are one of those teams. Well, we know
about the NFC East is always going to get extra
play as well when you're trying to go through your
television markets as you go. But for the Rams, been
an interesting run, right, the amount of picks and compensation
to trade up to get Jared Goff In a year,
you're coming back to Los Angeles where you're as we
(27:18):
sat here in the in the Geico studios looking at
each other, going you're already you're coming back to l
A football is returning to l after twenty years. You
don't need to make the splash with the quarterback. We've
made that argument. I know Jonas and I Jonas Knox
or teammate here at Fox Sports Trading. We talked about
that a bunch as well, breaking down fantasy stuff and
segueing into in the football chat that you didn't need
(27:40):
to make that push, but now you're seeing the dividends
being paid into what in a year, how changing out
of coaching staff, changing out of philosophy, and a bit
of personnel wizardry, as it would seem. In other words,
fleecing the Buffalo Bills is paying off in a big way.
Because here's another stat that just came down rams explosive
(28:01):
plays right twenty plus yards fifteen or eighty last year
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