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I don't know if I'm just more excited about this game, Mike,
because here we are, you know, getting towards the holidays.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But I don't know, man, I alred tell you this much.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I think tomorrow Packers the Lions, It's gonna easily be
the most watched Thursday night football game of the year,
and the other games aren't going to be close. Obviously,
it's streaming, so to compare it to other games you can,
especially when you know forty million people watched Cooper Rush
and Drew Locke on Thanksgiving. But I think Thursday night,
Tomorrow night meant what a game. I cannot wait for
this game, Toronto.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
You you're jumping on that already.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I look, it's a It's another NFC North Divisional game
where my team has no stakes. Yes, we suck, but
the fact of the matter is you got a bunch
of injuries that will play into this one. You know,
you got all your Lions gear on.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I'm sorry that we'll actually have to be in the
studio to watch that one, because then I can't curse
at you on air.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
When you'll just wait till the microphones off like you
always do.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You'll try that happened when Josh Jacobs is running the
ball down your throat on his way towards It's not
my team, it's my wife's family.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, but you've jumped on board their bandwagon because they're exciting. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It's fun to watch a team score forty points a week.
That's fun thing, man, that's fun. I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Sory's more exciting and more excited about the fact that
there's six teams on by so this one gravitated to
the top.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
I'm sorry that you have to watch your Bears games going.
I know something unbelievably horrible is gonna happen at the end,
Whereas when I watch the Jets, I know what's gonna happen.
I tell you there's still gonna suck, but I know
what's gonna happen. You go something real, it's like watching
going like like knowing, Hey, you know the end of
Hereditary it's gonna end bad for everyone, right the end
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of Midsummer it's gonna end. There's no winners here, and
you know how, because that's how you have to watch
football games. There's no ending that's gonna be good for anybody.
When you watch the Bears.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
One movie good third act, the other one not so much.
I'll let you guess which off the two you named.
But that's exactly it's it's all the movies you watch
now for the third act that there needs to still
be some juice, at least with the Bears. There's been
that it's a twist that you did not see coming.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Well, yeah, it's an f night Shalaman movie on steroids.
You know there's a twist, except you have no idea
where it's gonna come from.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
You just know that it's going to be a spectacular fail.
But no, Look, I'll hate watch both these teams tomorrow.
Be exciting a lot of excitement for both of them
going down the stretch run as we try to argue
teams into that very narrow window of teams that could
still compete for a title. I'm curious to see the
Detroit effort up front with the number of injuries they're battling.
(03:31):
Obviously JayR Alexander out for the Packers is doing them
no favors downfield, Hi, I'm on ross Aint Brown. But
all of that to say, yeah, it's good to have
a Thursday night game with some juice and not because hey,
the winds are gonna be swirling or there's going to
be snow to create chaos.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
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So we'll give you our official picks for this game
coming up later on this hour.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
What yeh? The Bears win because they're not playing.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
But I always like to talk about, Hey, all these
different jobs that I could do in sports. I wasn't,
you know, doing the show with you. It wasn't a
host on you know, radio and TV.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I'd always say, I could do this job. I could
be a I Co'd be a PR director for a team.
I could be a PR director for people. I'd be
great advertising.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
All the ideas. I love control.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, But but I realize today there is absolutely one
job I could not do.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I could I especially now.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Today was National signing Day in college football, right, and
it's a day that everybody seems to be happy because
no matter what you're you're getting players to come in
that you think are gonna be great. Yes, we grade
the classes and who really knows, right, it's great to
be mentioned if you have a top ten, top twenty,
top thirty, top fifty class, it's awesome, right, But you
don't really know. But the job I could never do
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is I could never It's so daunting, especially with what's
the latest phenomenon the last couple of years. I could
never be a cop recruiter. I could I could.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Never do it.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
The amount of stress and attention to detail. I'd have
to have with waking up every day and texting a
seventeen year old kid on his way to school and say, hey,
hope you have a great test in trigonometry today.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Hey hope you have fun of your girlfriend's birthday tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Let me know how it goes up there, and then
to watch and then that'd be tough enough. But then
to watch them flip at the end, I would just
I would just I would throw myself out the window.
I mean, because now guys flip all the time. You know,
it used to be eh, you know, kids go, they
verbally commit and and and that's pretty was pretty much
a solid. Then they absolutely commit in they're there. But
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now you have a kid for so long and because
nil has changed everything, where hey, we just want to
stay in contact.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
With you, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And kids are eighteen, they change their mind. If they're
committed to one school for more than eight hours, they
get a little antsy, going, I don't know, do I
really want to go here? I was committed to the
school for a long time. Bryce Underwood was LSU for
like eight months. When you're eighteen years old, like eight
months is forever. Right, it's forever. So sometimes you just
get antsy, you want to scratch that itch, but especially
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now with NIL, when suddenly out of the blue, you
think you have everything lined up and the kid calls
and says, hey, so sorry, but so and so just
came through with an extra three hundred thousand dollars for
me in NIL money, or an extra one hundred grand
for me, or an extra fifty grand, whatever it is.
And so I'm going there, I'm sorry. And this kid
that you have spent the lad better part of the
last two years getting down to your final list, having
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them in the final having him pick your hat on
National Signing Day, and did get all the way to
that point and then it's okay, we got him, we
got them. And then to have him flip because what
was the big story today? All the flips that happened,
all the schools that flip kids from other schools flipping here,
that's become the thing now, it's not become signing a
four star, five star recruits. How many four and five
star recruits can you flip from other schools to come
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to you and add to your class. I could never
do that job. I would just once a kid if
a kid texted me, hey said, thanks coach, I appreciateiate it,
but I'm gonna go here because you know, so and
so they promised my girlfriend a job, you know, on
campus or whatever whatever. I would just say I could
never talk to that kid again. I couldn't do it,
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and it would just drive me absolutely crazy. I could
never do that. Not in a You could say to me, Jason,
I will give you twenty million dollars. Okay, well what
do I gotta do? You have to be a D
one high level college football recruiter for two years, and
I would say I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
I cannot do it. I would I would disintegrate by
the time it was over. Couldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, there's a couple of pieces to this, and one
I'm gonna drag my school while I'm at it, so
let's go. Is the the fact that it's the old
Nino Brown. This is how you would get through it, Jason.
Always business never personal. We got to go back to
the film Classic New Jack City. Always business never personal,
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because that's it, right, You got a lot of yourself
invested as a recruiter, as a coach, assistant coach. Right
if you're the head of recruiting on a staff, that's
gonna be your way to move up the ladder. Look
at the kid I developed this relationship with and blah
blah blah blah blah. Yeah, you know what that's worth
in today's marketplace, given the free flowing economy that we
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have now, which is why I'd like to drag my
school the Northwestern Wildcats signing day. You know you're peacocky. Hey,
here's all the kids we got, But this is an
indictment of the schools all quote, in terms of our
recruiting process, not a single one of these young men
was induced to come to Northwestern through NI held dollars.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
There wasn't a wait wait, wait, it gets better.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
There wasn't a single cent of nil committed to these
young men. Okay, Now, while I like the idea you
sell the school, top ten university, Chicago adjacent all of
those things, here's the careers.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Look at all the luminaries and all these.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Different fields, broadcasting legends like Mike Harmon and Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I mean, there's a lot to sell, but that's the thing.
You're gonna go walk out and all these guys nobody.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Offered them a cent, so they chose us because we
didn't offer them anything either. Look, I've been barking up
that tree for the last couple of years. Right of
the fact that Northwestern, which your school, Syracuse, a couple
of these others, that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Theory had a first move or advantage. You know, you've
got alumni bases, moneyed alumni bases, and that you didn't
activate those in time like waiting and wishing and wanting
and hoping for guardrails that were never built or were
shoddily constructed along the way. That's you gonna be your message.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's either hey, fire me because I'm letting all the
secrets out come get me. Because look at the crap
I gotta do to try to build a recruiting class.
Look at what my step Look how weather did warn
they are from the recruiting process, waiting for the flip.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That wouldn't happen.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I would look like you remember at the at the
end of what was when all the reporters were just
absolutely bent, uh, when they just looked exhausted after they
worked on this store. I'm trying to think there's a
there's a newsroom shot. I'm thinking of and I can't
think of okay, where they're just all absolutely spent after
working on this story for like months and months and
months and they finally go to press with it and
(10:19):
it comes out now they're gonna do and they're just
all sitting looking at each other like I am utterly exhausted.
That would be me, like after a week, like I do,
I can't do it. I cannot do this. I can't.
I can't. I know, I yes, I know. It was
his it was his aunt's birthday.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I know.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
I don't think anybody from LSU was there. But I
will see. I will see who he's talking to after
the game this weekend. If he said congratulations in the
line to a kid who's going to Florida that said, hey,
hit me up, they may have a room for another
defensive lineman, like I couldn't. That's something that I don't
know how you do it. And it really makes me
appreciate the next level of coaches that are coming through
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college football, because that's one thing that's being on set.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
We spent so much time talking.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
About the end of the old guard, right the guys
that are saying this is not the college football, Like
coach right, Nick Saban Dabosweeney. Even though the Sweeney could
be in the playoff this year, he's still all I
don't like it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You get a lot of coaches that are walking away
now because hey, this is not the college football era
that I grew up with. This is not what I appreciate.
I don't get to coach enough. It might spend too
much time on the phones for nil and the transfer.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's too much time away from coaching. I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
And yeah, and it's easy to say, hey, yes, college
football isn't what it used to be and blah blah,
blah blah. But at the same time, I look at
all these new guys that are coming in now, that
are up for the challenge, that are recruiting in places
that you didn't think they would recruit and recruit this
fastat whether it's Syracuse or Indiana or anywhere else. It's well,
all of a sudden, look at what Look at what
(11:47):
we got going on here, because these guys come in
and this is this is their especially it's their wheelhouse.
Is Yeah, I'm a pretty good head coach. I could
be a pretty good head coach. But my job is
to get the kids in, get him in the program,
get him to pay attention, and let my coordinators do
their thing. Like that's the next level of coach, the
college coach that's gonna succeed. It's not gonna be someone
coming in with some kind of great offensive scheme or
(12:09):
going It's gonna be the recruiters that know how to
be the CEO of head coaches and can delegate and
get to the most important thing is getting the talent
in the building and getting the talent on the same page.
And that is absolutely tireless because you still got to
have some kind of say the on the game plan
and what's going on and running practice and all all
that stuff. I mean, I really I have so much
(12:29):
respect because as much as college football, being a head
coach is a twenty four to seven job for our
entire lives, it's been now it's now it's like twenty
eight seven. You gotta find a way to get twenty
eight hours worth of work into us, you know, into
a into a seven I mean into a into a
twenty four hour day, and you gotta find the way
to get nine days worth of work and do a
seven day week. Like, my respect for these guys coming
(12:49):
in that are doing this and succeeding is just off
the charts to something I can't even fathom doing.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Well.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
A lot of it's gonna be like being the head
of any level of political processes, because much of your
day is spent shaking hands, kissing babies and working on
the next deal, right, keeping money flowing into the coffers,
and working towards the next campaign, which is this, It's
(13:15):
not as much the day to day. You're gonna have
to do a lot of delegation along there. Oh, Also
to drag in, Northwestern lost one starter on each side
of the ball, very influential guys offensive.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Line, all big ten safety.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Didn't even bother to thank those guys for their services
by name, just kind of said that, just beat it.
Clearly they'll go somewhere else and make some money and
play meaningful football in twenty twenty five. But the fact
of the matter is for coaches, yeah, it's always been
we identified programs with long standing, long established ten years.
(13:51):
That's not the way it works anymore, Right, Guys bouncing
from place to place, not only players but coaches as well,
but the administratives of it. You're really gonna be building
a lot of middle management to try to administer to
each part of this. All right, here's three people that
are gonna be in charge of deals and going into
(14:12):
the community and finding, you know, all the local businesses
that perhaps we can get to come on board. Hey,
you get some free meals, you get some free kicks.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Here's some cars to drive all of those kind of things.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Uh, folks that are actually dealing with the money part
of it, uh, investment strategies, banks and and whatever else
to make sure that part of it's flowing. Oh yeah,
and then you still have to go commit to the
football side, yeah, and build game plans, practice schedules, and
and flow from there.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Can I go get dinner first? Now there's no time
to eat. Well, we'll have something brought to you. You
get you have you have ninety five seconds where you
can stand in this spot and eat whatever I hand
to you.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Okay, great, that's what I'll do. That'll be my dinner tonight.
But that's it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You're on the tread bill like you got one of
those little walking pads under your desk, You tread bills.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
You're at your desk. You got don't know that you're
doing film review in front of you. You got a
booster on the headset, tell the phone at your work
if they're like your Madonna, and you got the little
walking pad underneath. Meanwhile, you're facetiming your kids, going hey,
daddy loves you. Yeah, I'll see you in the morning.
I haven't and I haven't, heaven.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I have a six hour window where I can see
you in a month and a half, so write it down.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I believe it's on. You know.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I'll have my assistant get back to you on the
day in the time. But I have a six hour
window all set for you in a month and a half.
I'm looking forward to it. We'll do Christmas then, but Dad,
it'll be February. Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Oh wait, that's super Bowl. No, No, we'll fit in.
We'll fit in, don't worry about it. That's wait.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Why does your voicemail go to Harry chap And Dad? Yeah,
you really pat you to pick a better song. You're
making me sad trying to call you to come to
my rehearsal. Can you teach me to throw? I said,
I'll go see the offensive coordinator. I gotta go call
somebody else.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
The sign I've assigned someone an hour to work with
you on your throat.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Those are the alternate lyrics to the song Exit Out
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coming up next. Yes, college football so red hot with
everything going on today, National Signing Day coming up next.
We'll tell you why the college football playoff is already
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Speaker 1 (16:54):
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Speaker 2 (16:59):
You know, I missed it. It was a few years ago.
I forget who it was.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And this is where you know, advertising is where advertisers
get really mad.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
But I forget what company it was.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But they use this song for a Christmas promotion and
it was It's.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
The most Wonderful Time to Give Gear. And it was like, hey,
you know, I'm gonna say Model's but it's not Modell's.
Like hey, come on down, you know here, we.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Got this, this, this, this, and they played the most
Wonderful Time to Give Gear and they had a whole song,
and I'm like, see, now that's a good advertising campaign
because I will sing that part of the song when
that song comes on the radio.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
And now to show you it's lost on me. I
forget what it was. But it was a few years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So maybe people don't care because the the the whole
plan and the whole project is gone for a long time.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Now they're on to other things, so maybe they're okay
with that.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, that is an interesting proposition. Always, you remember bits
and pieces of commercials and we don't consume the same
way that we once did, certainly on televised events. Why,
especially if you're on a football Sunday, you're flipping to
the other game. Hey, I got my four box. Well
that one's on an AD, so I'm gonna move my
sound over here to the next one.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I had to explain, I give, I had to explain
to you the one of the the no fees the
Postmates with there's there's no fees in our food. You
must free your food from fees. Yeah, but here's the
thing you actually were remembered what that was for. Meanwhile,
you're singing about the most wonderful time to give gear
and it could be any number of sporting good stores.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, you're right, I mean, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Like, and then that's the thing that's lost, like, oh,
that's really great. Like the only ad that I can
I know exactly what the jingle is is.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Every time I see Will Ferrell, I hit my head
against a wall again.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
If I could ask him one experiment, I would say, Okay,
look you you really you won't do ELF two, but
you're gonna sing in these crazy ass commercials, right, This
you won't do, but this is what you're gonna do.
It always baffles me anytime I see a huge, unbelievably
big star that obviously doesn't need the money or doesn't
need the relevancy that will do these commercials.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
We never can never we can never understand fully their
economic impact, right uh, and whether they actually quote unquote
need the money just because they've made a lot of money.
Remember Patrick Ewing told us long long ago, we make
a lot of money, but we spend a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, but you could turn you can turn actors and
actors who were unknowns into big stars.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
There's the can you hear me now? Guy became a millionaire?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I know flow from Progressive is probably a millionaire, is
a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
And get somebody.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But then I'm like, why is Jennifer Garner doing all
of these Capital One Jennifer Garner's been a huge start
and and and she's still doing stuff and she's her
early fifties.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Why is she doing these? I don't understand. They are
more people.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I was saying, I gotta get a Capital one credit
card because Jennifer Garner is doing that commercial. I'm sorry,
I bet maybe I just don't have the head for
business and you like to think of it, but I
really don't understand why like like all of this stuff
has to go that way.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Remember this, there's always a I mean, look look at
guys at our business that have like ninety seven jobs.
Do they need to have another one? And then you
read how the schedule's done? Well, this is taped in
thirty three minutes and it's a four hour radio show
because all they do is introduce the next song to
a read, ask a question or two, bam, wrap it up.
Done for the day. All right, Now where are they at.
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They're on a television set.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
How long is that day? Live to tape twenty two minutes? Bam,
bam bam.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Dude, that's like every dude on satellite music. Hey, I
remember the first time I saw Billy Joel back in
eighty six the Meadowlands in New Jersey. It was a
really fantastic show. Here's scenes from Italian restaurant Channel seventy nine,
Like that goes back like that's all that plant, But
it goes back to exactly what we're just talking about
with coaches in their twenty four hour day, because I
(20:46):
was like, how does this guy have so many jobs?
And every one of you is picturing an individual in
your head I'm not gonna plant it in there. You
would know exactly what four or five guys I'm talking about.
I can show you how the sausage just made very
easily to say, how they could still get three hours
at a gym, have dinner with their family, and have
(21:08):
a number of jobs and sleep eight hours. It works
out pretty well. All that to say, you know, it's
the mouth Montgomery burns. He will just keep flipping the
rocks over.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'll trade it off for a little more because eventually
the phone stops ringing in the interim.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Don't tell me.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
It's easy work to keep me, to keep me front center.
You can do any one of a number of streaming
movies you know that don't even have scripts, and you
can they can be You could start.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Shoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, and it could be
out by January first.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You just went down a deep dark path there, speak
of which I did watch the new holiday film with
Holiday Holiday Holiday.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Holiday Holiday with Lindsay Lohan. Okay, oh, with the Kensandy
Chiefs one was that the Chiefs one where one that's
a different one. I got to catch up on that
this week.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Okay, Well, and now I know that like or something
you know in my house is listening to me because
the Will Ferrell PayPal commercial just came on TV. Oh
someone's talking about Will Ferrell. Let me give you that
commercial right there, so you know, Jason, go use PayPal,
Use PayPal on eBay. Rely, man, I'm telling you, I'm
telling you, Ay, I's coming for.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
All of us.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
No, it's already obviously taking over your brain.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Now, you're never gonna forget. You're never forgota forget. You're
never gonna guess. You're also never gonna forget. You're never
gonna guess, never gonna get it. What quarterback said today,
it would be quote ridiculous to make a player with
his resume auditioned to play next season. Quote if my
team wants me to stay fantastic, if it takes these
five games, maybe they don't know what I bring to
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the table. But that being said, I'd love to play
really bleeping well these last five games. Hey, I'm off
for only Who said? Who said that? Was that Kirk Cousins, No,
not Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Was it not kirkut Sorry not Kirk Cusins. Was that
Aid O'Connell, No, No, no, not eight. No cut, wasn't
eight o'condle, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That was New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers who said
it would be ridiculous to make a player with his
resume audition for next season. Oh boy, okay, so many things.
The first one is this, It's obvious Rogers is in
the denial phase of knowing that he's this is the
end of his career in the NFL, right because we
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talked after the game against the Seahawks. He just seemed, Hey,
I had the rest, I had the buy, I came back.
I still can't throw the ball downfield. I'm still skintch
in the pocket.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I throw the.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Ball second and a half after I get it off
the snap. This is not what I was. It's not
what I've had a long time to come back from this,
and I can't. And he knows that the Jets are
going to want to move on because he had to
play well down the stretch and now it's its empty
time and the Jets are just, you know, punching the
clock waiting for next year. So we told you after
the Seahawks game, that was it. That was where Aaron
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Rodgers knows this is gonna be it for me, because
when it was rumored that maybe he would lose his job,
he could get benched, the big quote that he said was, well,
if that's what Jeff Elbrick is thinking about, you know,
we could talk about and have a conversation like, that's
not what you say.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
If you're like, wait, what do you mean, Ben, That's
not happening. This is my job, this is my thing.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So I know that he has accepted it, But I
think denial comes after acceptance, in the stages of grief
and knowing your NFL career is over. And I think
that like today on Pat McAfee saying this, he really
is in denial because he has to know that this
is it for him. Who's gonna bring him back next year?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Look?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Look at his numbers every week is one hundred and
eighty five yards passing with two top five wide receivers
and a top five running back.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
How is this? How is this year going on? This way?
Speaker 1 (24:39):
He just isn't the same guy, and he knows it.
And maybe now he wants to just control the narrative
and if it's out here that oh, I want to
beg for a job next year, show a resume. Hey,
I'm not doing that because he knows, doesn't matter what
you've done the last twenty years. If this year you stink,
your team's gonna want to move on from it doesn't matter.
Oh look what Aaron Rodgers did in twenty eleven. It's
twenty twenty five. I don't care what he did fourteen
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years ago. If he stinks this year, I'm not going
to bring him back next year. So I think he knows,
and this is just him wanting to control the narrative
down the stretch. And we're still gonna get that announcement
sometime around Christmas because he's gonna know, Hey, no one
wants me unless I catch absolute fire in these next
three games and I throw nine touchdowns and I look
like the old version of myself. But he's not because
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that guy's gone, right, you can see it. You thought
it might be. I thought there was a little bit
of a spark early on in the season, but now
clearly that's not the case anymore. The Jets aren't going
to bring him back. Nobody's gonna sign him to be
the starting quarterback after this year, even with a really
bad free agent crop of quarterbacks that's not happening. So
I feel like he's in he's in that denial stage
where and I forget if accepted?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Where ready go ahead? Where where's acceptance coming? Here's denial
for okay. Then we get to anger okay, a people, Okay,
we get.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
To bargaining, trying to making okay, reasons for things going on.
Then we get to depression. Okay, he not there four
one yeah, okay, that acceptance.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
And acceptance okay. So so knowing on Sunday, knowing.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That this was gonna be it, he knew that this
was gonna be it for him, that he was gonna
probably this is last year in the NFL. He's gonna
have to retire. He's not gonna sit out there in
free agency and then announce his retirement sometime in April.
That's not gonna happen. He wants to control the narrative
about himself. So I would say if he knew that
coming off a Sunday right now, he's kind of in
the denial into anger phase.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I would say that's kind of where it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Is, because it seems like he's still a little denying,
but he's also angry. So he's still there where maybe
the full acceptance of it is gonna be later. Okay,
I get it. So yeah, the big decision that he
knew after the game Sunday. Now he's into that acceptance
denial part of things. Okay, Now he's in that denial
anger part. Okay, got that's about where he is right now.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, because because we haven't gotten a bargaining yet, because
eventually it becomes philosophical of what he might have done better,
what he might have worked with the former GM and
coach to his establish a little bit better the last year,
plus all of those things, how they might have made
Mackay Beckon a better player. So he isn't ex jet
now good Like see, I.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Think when you say bargaining, I'm expecting to hear say
this is when he says, hey, look just pay me
like the veterans minimum next year.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I don't need a lot of money. I just want
to come back and play.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's the bargaining that might Yeah, that might be the
extended remix that we get to next off season because again,
owing to the dearth of quality options and free agency,
and then at the draft you decide how much you
love or hate guys beyond Sanders and Ward right I mean,
there's a few guys that have flashed and shown you
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bits and pieces.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
At the collegiate level that they could be guys, and
many others that we have questions of.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
So could Aaron Rodgers be that guy kind of lurking
in the shadows that if someone goes down to an injury,
you know that old tale that we tell each year,
that he's still there and he's in shape and ready
to go break last in case of emergency kind of guy.
But all of that to say, I think we've seen
enough on tape to know this is ending terribly and
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already has right, You've had opportunities your point, You've got
several top notch players at skill positions. You still have
a terrible front five. I know I harp on that
for teams way too much for your liking, but reality is,
you don't have any guts.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
You're not making it through the day.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So that's the way it works in the National Football League,
and for Aaron Rodgers to be at them, I'm offer
only I'm not auditioning, dude, Recognize where.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You're at your MVP.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Your MVP tape don't play in twenty twenty four, twenty five,
No like.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
If you wanted to come in to be like an
assistant coach of some kind. Hey, I don't need to interview.
I know what you can do. Hey, let's come in
and talk. But this is Oh, you want to play quarterback.
Oh that's that's something different. Like if you want to
come in and be an offensive analyst or assistant and
look at I'll tell you he could be an unbelievable
new age head coach in the NFL. I'm completely serious
(29:05):
about this. The way his knowledge of the game, how
easy it flows, how easy he talks about things and
and and the right thing to do on a certain play,
you know, the way the players like him, the way
they listen to him and are drawn to him, because look,
the guy's one of the top five quarterbacks to ever
walk the earth. Knows more about playing the quarterback position
than just about anybody else.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, he would be an incredible new age type head coach.
It wouldn't surprise me if that's he winds up going
into after But you know, but now if it's like, oh, hey,
wait a minute, you mean Aaron's agent is on to
play quarterback for Oh well, oh boy, how long do
you have to call him back. Can you say you
couldn't reach me and say I'm unreachable, I'm I'm I'm away,
(29:45):
I'm I'm I'm uh oh, I'm I'm I know where
i am. I'm in Egypt. Oh no, wait, he could
be in Egypt. He could might say, oh, I'll meet
you there at one of the pyramids. Uh no, tell him,
I am, I am, I'm somewhere on a whitewater rafting
expedition and I'm unreachable for the next three weeks. Just
just say that. That'll be fine, that'll work.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah, It's it's funny that just the we keep going
back to the audition slash offer only it's like, hey,
when you got that role, what do you have to die?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Auditioned seven times?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Man, I just had to keep going back like you're
an A list superstar, Like yeah, they didn't think I
could sing, man, They just they just.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Didn't want to believe it, you know.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
And then finally I got the roll and look at me,
It's like, is that really your voice?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I'll never tell Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I mean, he's done, he knows that he's he's just
trying to control the fall, because when all you have
left is the fall, it matters greatly, which I think
is Richard the third.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I'm not sure that's.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
What this is all this is, this is this is
what matters. Now, how does he fall? How how do
the next five weeks go for him? Where he can
leave one on as high a note as possible. It's
not going to be high, but as high a note
as possible. It's not going to be a high E.
It may be more of a low B flat, But
I mean that's that. That's how he's going to live,
and he wants to be as high as possible.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I would say this if you are gonna fall though, Right,
we're getting to the icy time of the year across
the country and the globe. Remember, hands up, don't let
the hand go down. Don't try to brace yourself. It's foolish.
I'll show you my scars. I'll show you the pins
that have been in my hand for years.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Bell don't do it.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Han zuckson exit out about of Fresca Exit swollen dome.
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It's Mante Bolanios with what's trending? Jason? Why are you
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just handed the number one team in the country, Kansas,
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Speaker 4 (32:31):
Three win for the Blue Jays. So if you're on
FS one, right now, you can catch the celebration because
they stormed the court. Obviously, that's what happens nowadays. Number
twenty five Yukon held on to beat number fifteen Baylor
seventy six to seventy two. Right now, we've got two
games going on possible upsets because Number eighteen Pittsburgh losing
to Mississippi State seventy one to forty four less than
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ten minutes to go in the game early in the
second half. Number two Auburn losing to number nine Duke
two to forty. In the NBA, the Clippers just got
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heat crushed. The Lakers won thirty four to ninety three.
Tyler Hero thirty one points, including nine threes.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
His career high is ten.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
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this season with thirty or more points, and the Hawks
snapped the Bucks seven game winning streak, coming out on
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top one nineteen to one oh four. Trey Young seventeen
points and seven assists in the win. In the NFL,
Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence was placed on injured reserve today
with the concussion, and then it was later reported that
he is going to have surgery on that ac joint
injury in his left shoulder in the coming weeks. His
season is over. Mac Jones is going to be taking
over the starting quarterback job in Jacksonville. Texans linebacker Aziz
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Al Shaier, who appealed his three game suspension today for
that hit on Trevor Lawrence, well, the league is upholding
that suspension. And he also tweeted something on X quote,
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Speaker 2 (34:12):
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they played Monday, which can't lose. It was it was more.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Than enough browns for the week on Monday night, like
I got my Philip Browns and then someone m it's
like Thanksgiving with turkey. I had had enough turkey, enough browns.
I had enough browns on Monday night. It was awesome
and I loved it. But have enough rounds for a
few days. Who's walking away with a big winning the
biggest TNF game of the year. That's next Jason and
Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
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Most is like, you like that, right, and then he
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That's that's still my favorite.
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Most is like when he explains the Godfather to Maggie,
using her, using her adults.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
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Speaker 1 (36:06):
All right, So uh look Tomorrow night, we talked about
it earlier this hour. We have the best Thursday night
football game of the year coming up. We got Packers
and the Lions, and this game is going to be
everything you expect it to be. It'll wind up being
the highest, the most watched game, most stream game on
Thursday night this year. You have two teams that are
absolutely playing well. The offenses are playing really well. The
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atmosphere in Detroit for this nationally televised game is gonna
be insane. You know how good the Lions offense is
with the injuries. Unfortunately for the Lions, the Packers offense
looks really good too.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
This is gonna be.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
An old fashioned shootout, tons of points on the board
and look, I'd love to look for a way to
pick the Packers in this game. I really would. But
Detroit at home. I can't see them losing this game.
They have completely flipped the optic of this organization. They've
changed their identity. Their rushing attack is too good, even
with Dan Campbell for some reason saying no, no, no,
(37:03):
I know, Jamir Gibbs is the better player and he
averages seven yards of carry. I'm still gonna give the
ball to David Montgomery twenty five times a game and
give Jamir Gibbs twelve touches even though they have the
same amount of yards, even though Dan Campbell still is
at that point where I'm gonna give Dave Montgomery the football.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Way more than he should. Uh, why do you think
it works?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Though David Montgomery softens up, he gets into the soft thunderbelly.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Look that bam, you run past them with Gibbs. Hey, dude,
I'm not saying stop giving the ball to Dave Montgomery.
I'm saying it needs to really be a fifty to
fifty thing.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
This kid.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
He give Montgomery with twenty four touches and Gibbs with twelve,
Like that's ridiculous. I mean, come on, man, I mean
you could. You could give Gibbs the ball five seven
more times a gain. The guy's the best running back
in the NFL. The guy's electric. He season I don't
even see the hole sometimes, and he finds a way
to get through it. It looks like the hole is twenty
yards wide. No, don't do that best back in the NFL.
You torpedo the Saint Quon Barkley ship.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You Bill.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm telling you, man, mister Gibbs don't do that. The
most running back in the NFL. But look, I'd love
to find a way, but I can't see the Packers.
Look offensively, they're gonna put up points. Jordan Love is
playing really well again. But this Lions team, especially at home,
is just a machine right now. I'm going to stick
with the Lions until they prove to me otherwise because
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other than that, you're just looking for a place to
say that seems like a great spot for the Lions
to lose. Yeah, at home on the Thursday night against
Green Bay. This is not that spot. Give me the Lions.
They will cover.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
They get the W minus three fifty one and a
half the total. By the way, they should have been
playing at least for overtime last week against the crap
ass Bears team the team that is which one of
these is not like the other. You look at turnover
differential in the National Football League, you got the Bills,
you got the Steelers, Chargers, all these team with winning records.
They're the Bears plus ten time for fourth best in
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the National Football League, but also among those league leaders,
the Packers right there with the Lions at plus nine.
That's where I go in the edge. I'm not going
to do the full laundry list of guys that are
hurt in their defensive line rotation for the Lions, but
that's gonna give opportunity h for Jacobson for that run
game to get going. It's just a matter of can
Jordan Love keep himself from what he loves to do,
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turnover worthy plays? And I say, in this game, yes,
just enough Packers get the win here, that probably lose
the war, but they'll win the battle on Thursday night.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh you're just doing that just to be fun. Just dude,
I picked the Packers you just met. You're mad about
last week. That's what you're just mad about last week.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I'm mad about a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Okay, you're trying to localize into one thing.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
You're just mad about. Where's Allan Williams. That's all, dude.
We can't keep asking that question. Man, if someone has to.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Just you're only picking them because you're mad about Thursday.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Packers plus three.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
You'd be a great you'd be a great football a
professional gambler. Why are you picking the million they're gonna win? No,
I'm just really pissed about last Thursday.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
I am doing really well against the number this year.
But but Pas plus three.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Exit, im bout of Fresca exit. Swollen Dove Jason is
with Mike Harmon coming up next. Why the college football
Playoff is already better than anything we had in the
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