November 2, 2023 • 34 mins
Mike Harmon and Kerry Rhodes put a bow on the World Series. Cardinals coach Jonathan Gannon says QB Kyler Murray is "fired up, ready to go" about potentially playing this week vs. Browns. And we remember Legendary Indiana basketball coach Bob Knight who passed away earlier today at the age of 83.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Welcome in. Second half of the show begins Mike Harmen
alongside as you heard all Pro safety Carry Rhodes strumming
his air guitar. As we get ready to talk some
more NFL commemorate more of what the Texas Rangers did.
See how that applies to our NFL world. As we
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the way tire buying should be. World Series Game five
and everybody out and about Arizona flooding the streets after
(01:13):
the win and certainly on the streets of Arlington, Texas
as the Rangers celebrate their World Series win five games,
Corey Seeger winning the MVP. Every once in a while,
the broken clock is right, Harmon gets a prediction right
of the series and the MVP. Yay me fifty to one.
(01:35):
We're seeing the tickets that people are cashing at casinos,
online and otherwise throughout the world. So good job by
them if you put the money down back when they
were fifty to one. Big payroll and expenses and they
get the job done. Over Arizona, the big Blasts coming
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through after a gutty effort from Vivaldi to work out
of trouble, the Diamondbacks zero for nine with runners in
scoring position and wasting a fantastic effort from Zach Gallon
who had a no hitter through.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Six yep, but not in the seventh.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, he gave up that loan run in the seventh,
and really that's all all all it took. And we
watched watched it unravel five to nothing, your final strikeout
looking to end it all. Always appropriate, uh, and you
look at just what was what they were able to
do rolling through all of the expectations from the heavyweights,
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and the Astros were there in the end. Uh counted
them out for much of the year, a lot of injuries, inconsistency,
playing great baseball down the stretch, and they were able
to vanquish them. And Dusty Baker goes into retirement quote
unquote because you know, the doors cracked like a kind
of like a horror movie. You think they're done, but
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back like that. No, that's good. Yeah, all of a
sudden the door creaks back open, and away we go.
We used a lot of those yesterday. I don't know
when we have any of those lab but for Dusty Baker,
one of the game's great managers.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And people people person people people, I don't know whatever,
you know, you know, you know what I was trying
to say there, But he and Bruce Bochi squared off.
You're able to vanquish them and send them away, even
with Jordan Alvarez doing crazy stuff in the end, it's
see Corey, seeger Adoles Garcia show. And here we are
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now celebrating the end of a baseball season, and immediately
everybody put up these giant clocks, going how fast is
there an offer for show? Hey Hotani, how quickly does
this the resolve is like we got straight to that
in my time, I was like, oh, congratulations, that's great.
Here are the top free agents at heys and get
after it.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
And the crazy thing about that, Sho Hay is as
as great as he is. Obviously going to talk about
him here soon, but he's he's not going to change
one organization by himself. And so I think the part
about what the Rangers did, they went on and got
multiple pieces, right, so we obviously want to know where
so he's gonna go because I mean, he's a so stopper,
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one of the best players in the league. But one
guy isn't going to get you over to hump. And
I know he he's more than one guy when he's healthy,
but he hasn't been healthy, so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, I would be remiss getting a lot of messages
on Twitter. You know, Jason, while he knew the Rangers
were gonna win because I predicted them and he took
the Diamondbacks, he did not take to night off because
he anticipated the Rangers winning. So here's how you can
reach him though, And how about a fresco on Twitter?
Because you're finding and sending them to me. All about
(04:47):
Schurezer into Grom and I appreciate them. Boy, they're lining
up in droves. What do you got, Frostberg? I was
gonna say he took the night off because he knew
schres Are and the groum we're gonna be World Series champions. Yeah,
face that. Psychologically, I'm sure it's very to him right now.
Uh but it's funny how many people are like quoting
things from March off Twitter because you know he loves
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to do that, right. I hate to say I told
you so does. That's one of Jason's favorite things. And
right now people are bringing back old tweets about de
grom Insureser and going you said this too, x Mets
now good even if they weren't on the field. Yeah,
I mean they brought that clubhouse spirit, camaraderie and look
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sure out a little bit until he needed a backy
out of me.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
You all, it's all good, exactly. He did all right,
the Grom didn't you know, have a real hand in
the thing. But uh, yeah, I mean that's what happens
in baseball.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Man.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
You get to, you know, be on one team that
you think is gonna have a chance to win a
World Series, and that kind of derails and next thing,
you know, you're in a better situation. And it's just
it's really it's really ironic how baseball goes right. I
mean even with the asteroids, right, Berlanda goes back there
and almost gets back to the to the World seas
again as well.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So it's just part of baseball.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Dillings, is that what I do for Like his birthday
is gonna come up soon to do I just give
him a box and when he opens it, it's a
bunch of ex met ballplayers who've gone on to greatness
once they left.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And get it signed. If you can get a signed.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No, no, that's efforts that costs money. No, no, no,
the trading cards. I just go to the Commons box.
But with the little effort you stick it in and
they like twist it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I can do Verland, we can talk to Ben. You know,
maybe we could have talked to Verlander to mock him.
But no, all good things. I mean, just a fun series.
I know people were down on the ratings and it's
like I hate this team or that team. U I know,
h if you're fans of certain squads, former Padres getting
rings uh not sitting well with some of our guys
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here in the offices, So you know, that's it's a lot.
We wrap everybody in a big hug. It's okay, still
a World Series title, it's still a big deal.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I think Brendan's back there, so we're probably crying, kicking,
and he was not happy.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, yeah, no, he certainly was not happy by the
fact that you know, you saw Austin Hedges get a ring,
so that's certainly vexing him. He expressed that even before
the game had gone final. So you know, it's all good. Look,
hope Spring's Eternal will start advancing. There was a fifty
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one shot like that's one thing. Now your team may
not be able to go out and spend the kind
of money the Rangers did to reverse course of recent history.
We talked about one hundred loss seasons and everything else,
But the opportunity certainly does avail itself to you in
short order. As we start getting into the silly season,
hot stove and rumor conjecture, speculations, we got plenty of that.
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John Balmerosi as always, will be with us throughout the
offseason as things start to play out and managerial changes,
et cetera. But it lends us straight to the NFL
trying to find that diamond in the rough, right, because
the Lion second half of last year, people were starting
to jump on board that bandwagon. All the laughter about
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Dan Campbell and biting kneecaps and all that stuff. It
was gone because they were embodying a different type of
Lions team. And look, I love Barry Sanders watching him
except against the Bears, and Calvin Johnson except against the Bears.
Watching those teams, they had component parts kind of like
we were talking about with the Raiders earlier, who we'll
get back to here before long, but that never came together, right,
(08:31):
Guys like Lomus Brown whatever. There's some legends and guys
that played some great football for a bad franchise. But
we watched as the season war on last year that
they embodied some of their head coach, former NFL player
and seeing those connections. That's one of those things where
I think you're intrigued by Antonio Pierce a little bit,
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right especially, and I've seen this throughout the social media.
I mean, what's it mean when an next player gets
the shot, even if it's temporary.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I think when the ex player gets a shot like
a Dan Campbell right, his career kind of you know,
kind of presides who he is, right, and so the
mentality that he had with that opening press conference as
outlandis and a little bit of a caricature of what
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a press conference should be.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Well, look is that some peers today, right, it's not
from Compton, California, and this is who.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yes, and like it's a little bit of a caricature,
but it is who they are as well. And so
there's a level of when you see some of that stuff,
you Okay, he's doing too much, and if you're not
a player, you won't understand it.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But if you're a player and you know that that.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Track record of who that player is presides that you're
gonna hop on board with that.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
One of the things that we can hear a little
Antonio Pierce from earlier today as he takes over control
of the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
That had opportunities to leave and go to other organizations,
I decided not to. The short story a matter of
fact is I grew up in Compton, California. I was
born a Raider. I was born with the Raiders rolling
in the coliseum in LA I was rolling with NWA
talker straight out of Compton Rock and Raider hats. So
an opportunity came to work with Josh and Pat Graham
and Dave, I jumped on it.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
So that's what set me up for this. I was
born this way.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
There you go, He gets a little lady ga gay
at the back end.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I was born this way.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But just that that spirit, right, Raider fans, whatever the
results are, at least for today. Look, there was a
liking problem with Josh McDaniels. They didn't it is, and
they didn't the entire way. Like when he got hired,
it was like, all right, here's wonder boy. Is he
gonna do what he did to the Colts? And no show? Well, no,
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he came and then you saw what it became. My
house divided. Derek Carr the end of last year operations
shut down, so he was healthy and he gets spun
off Devontae Adams raising his hands saying, what about me?
Josh Jacobs looking with a giant sign running back, should
get paid to you know, I mean, you had all
of that going on and swirling in the background. But
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to link that Pierce audio back to Campbell because Campbell's
got a staff full of x NFL play. It does
so room to room. You got guys that can talk
about the highs the lows, and they can call you
on your bs in a way that the guys that
just went through the normal coaching ranks, well, they can't.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Mike.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
It's like one of those things where, I mean, we've
seen it a lot. When you have guys that have
been through that fire, been through the wars, the conversations
are a little bit different. And also it just holds
a little bit more weight because you know what I've
been through. I'm hurting right now. I'm going to give
you everything I can. And he understands what that means too, right, Like,
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it's not just this player and this coach that's really
smart and can do analytics and can draw plays in
the dirt and and it works when you're doing that, right,
But when it's moving parts players going through the grind
of a season and knowing how that feels too, and
knowing how to bring guys together with not just the
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not just talk, but the way that you do talk,
it's a big difference.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, because it is a curiosity, right, you make this
move now if you're the Raiders and you've got the
road to go with Aidan O'Connell will see what it is.
Because McDaniel's famously a couple of weeks ago, when asked
why Hoyer got the start over him just said, it's
not pre season anymore, as if to you know, a
backhand slap of yeah, that was great. That was and
we don't know, like we got to see O'Connell a
(12:43):
little bit, but when you're thrust into a game. He
didn't throw up on himself, right, It wasn't terrible, like
we've certainly seen worst efforts from rookie quarterbacks coming in
an emergency relief. But that showed a little bit of
a dismissiveness to your lawcker room, which was it would
seem done necessary even at the time, not not even
(13:04):
foreshadowing two to three weeks later you're throwing the door,
shown the door and thrown out with the bad fish.
Is that you kind of showed you showed yourself a
little bit in that moment instead of saying, hey, the
rook isn't ready, Yes, I need a veteran guy. This
is a team. We're near five hundred whatever I mean,
(13:24):
And it's coach speak and it's a bit of a
tap dance, right. I always reference the Richard gear performance
as Billy Flynn in Chicago, where he just like starts
tap dancing while he's saying a whole lot of nothing.
As a coach, sometimes you need to do that, and
instead you basically just said, yeah, he's no good, which
anybody that had watched him through college and whatever I'm
(13:47):
put on tape in the preseason, yeah, and practices a
different animal, of course, would have gone down that road.
It's like, well, that seemed done necessarily harsh for the situation.
Sometimes you need the kid gloves.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, he definitely did not say it correctly, and he
doesn't look look like somebody who would actually take the
time to say it correctly, you know what I mean.
And that's the that's the issue here, right, because obviously
Hoyer was the right person to go to in that moment,
especially that first game, the one that was in game
(14:20):
where he knows the system, he knows the Patriots, he
knows all the ins and outs around what that.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Entails, right, So that made sense.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Now the following week, having a full week, obviously you
drafted this kid, we know how talent and talented he is.
If you're as good a coach as you say you are.
You getting ready to plays. That's that's what my whole
take would have been, you know, speaking.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Of coaching him up. We're gonna go to Arizona coming
up next. Lots swirling about the ownership and a big
report that came out from ESPN some that we've heard
whispers for. It's an organization you played for, so we'll
get your perspective on your time there, But certainly the
war of Kyler Murray is where I want to traverse
next at Carrie twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (15:12):
Welcome back, fun, hotly contested, chaotic night in the world
of sports. The Rangers are World Series champions. Five games.
They take care of the Arizona Diamondbacks five nothing the win.
Corey Seeger wins your World Series MVP. Now we're back
into the world of the NBA. You celebrated the Mavericks
(15:34):
beating my beloved Chicago Bulls earlier. Maybe a little little
um much and I heard some change jingling in your pocket.
Carrie Rhodes in for Jason Smith tonight as we come
to you live from the Tirak dot com studios. We
just watched Sabonis hit a big shot you call it
bank the bank was open. And then the ensuing possession
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for the Warriors down one hundred and one hundred, and
they can't get the ball back to steph He's running off,
can't break free, can't get screened properly. So the ball
get back and you even yelled, there's like steph Ain
getting back. It gets the ball into Clay Thompson and
Thompson bay knocks it down, knocks down the jumper. One
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oh two, one oh one, now, zero point two seconds remaining. Meanwhile,
the battle for La the Lakers seven point thirty two remaining,
a timeout on the court, a four point lead over
those pesky Clippers as we go deep into the fourth quarter.
So great stuff all around, a great day of sports.
We had the what what they call it the sports
(16:41):
Equinox or whatever the other day with all the major sports.
Kind of like the world from Jack Skellington and the
Nightmare before Christmas. You walk into the forest and you
decide which door you want to go into. Same thing
here with your sports what do you want to watch?
You got it all?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
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So earlier today, a report comes out on Bidwell and
the management of the Arizona Cardinals, alleging a lot of
(17:20):
workplace and this has been going on for a little
while here right that we've heard this percolating. Now it's
more buttoned up in longer form about certain exchanges with
the employees, one that goes down to parking spots and
yelling things at people when we start getting into potentially
some racially charged commentary that comes in. So there's a
(17:44):
lot swirling there. We know, organizationally, Steve Kim and the
team that had been put together before he was relieved
of duties. There were a lot of questions of draft
picks not making it through, some of the free agent signings,
a lot of the free agent signings that didn't quite
go according to plan, and so you've had some organizational
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disfunction well for a while. Yeah, Now, you played there
at the end of your career. What was it a
coming from the Jets. I mean, because we tried to
do the compare and contrast. Right, You've got the metal
stand and we always talk about stability in Pittsburgh and
Baltimore and how they do things versus the rest of
the NFL. Can you give us any insights of what
(18:28):
you saw inside the building? Obviously it's it's a few
years removed, but the same family.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Same family.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, and you know what I mean, the last big
free agent that came into town was probably probably me.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
No, I'm joking, I like that start pointing no, no, no, no, that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Was only one thumb. You didn't give it second second
or half no. But when I went in, you know
it was Yeah, it was never top not. You know,
there wasn't any Ill's stability there. Obviously they had the
two years before I got there really good with Kurt
Warner and Larry Fitzgerald an offense and has some success,
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but yeah, I mean it always felt like a second
rate kind of organization. Did you ever get billed for
your meals in the offseason when you're in there working
in the film room and stuff, because that was one
of the reports for this offseason. Do you ever get hey,
you bought a chicken palm plate on Monday? No, man,
because I mean when we saw it, we referenced Moneyball before.
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I mean, that was one of the famous things. I
don't want my guys paying for for soda anymore.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
You know what the crazy part about that question you
just asked me, I'm not one hundred percent sure because I.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Was actually checked the line. He's like, now I have
to go check and see my deductions again, different tax
brackets during time.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Exactly right, And that's that's real. That's the real statement.
So I may not have known this, So let me
actually go check these receipts after this show.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I'll let you know next time.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, let me know check the does the Dutch's go
back and.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They took out what? Yeah? I know you are I
think you owe me something, sir.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, I mean a legit question because we watch organization,
because I mean, the Bengals for years, that was always
the reputation, and even with success, there's still always that
side eye of have things really changed have they not?
But now we've got this situation, and we predicted it
the other night when all of a sudden after Sunday's game,
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Dobbs is our starter, blah blah blah. Meet the media
the next day. Well, after watching the film, he's third, like, no,
you were trading him right now. It just became a
where's he going? He ends up going to the Vikings,
which is interesting. We'll talk about the Vikings because they
now hold the longest tenure of a Big Four franchise
(20:49):
without a title, after the Rangers One to Night, established
in nineteen sixty one. So there you go. I add value,
just random stats that I pulled up that now matter,
even molt and tie back in. See we weave a
rich tapestry. So factoids here good. But now there you've
got Clayton Tune, the young kid. You're in pole position.
(21:11):
You want Drake May, you want Caleb Williams, whoever it is.
And look it's it's now the silly season, so people
are going to try to sell their narrative of the
quarterback they like most, Whether Caleb Williams should be the
first or not, whatever, We've got months to fight about that.
But the point is Arizona right now, if the draft
were today, they've got the number one slot. So you've
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got Clayton tune. But all the while leading up to
the trade deadline. And this is where I ask you
if if I'm reading this room right, is Kyleer Murray's healthy,
He practiced fully, He's almost ready. How much was that a?
All right? He's ready and ready to play for us
versus Hey, you all need quarterbacks, come knocking on the
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door if the price is right.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Oh, you're reading the room one hundred correct there, because
he could have played last week. And you know, obviously
if he was your franchise guy and somebody that you
were actually trying to win games with.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Once he's ready and the available he's playing.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
But with this squad right now, like you got you
gotta be you gotta be real.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
No, no, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You're so just saying, all right, we got a half season.
Can we legitimately do any damage with the component parts
that are there with a healthy Kyler Murray?
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Well, if he was your franchise quarterback, yes, because as
bad as Arizona has been record wise, in all of
these games, they had a chance to win and.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
They were fighting Cardinals exactly. No, like really they beat
the Cowboys, the Cowboys and every.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Other I mean even Baltimore last week.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
They were Wow, that was that was backdoor?
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Oh no, no, no, no, in the first half I think
the I think a half time was fourteen seven.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, and you're every in every game they've been in there.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Right, Eventually Connor does come back.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Who he's not a game game.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But terms of running backs, I mean, he's not far
off anymore. It's fine, let's let's talk about the running
back position. He's still a top ten guy in today's sure,
in today's NFL.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I don't know what that says.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I don't know either, but it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But like, it's just the question of do you roll
him out with the opportunity in front of you number
one first versus like, maybe he's still your guy and
this is all going to the new brass post time,
post that new contract and everything. I'm looking around and go, well,
we like Kyler and from all reports he and Gannon
get along really well. He's been around the team and
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really more invested perhaps than he had been.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Is he really though, if you're selling him as he's
healthy now to the other team and he's ready to go,
then you don't want to have any more bad stories
leak out either, because you don't want that guy to
be cancer.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
So if you know it's.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
A there's a lot of massage going on, but it's
the the idea of all right, if we're going to
get the number one pick, but we got our guy,
because now he's not traded, he's here now, maybe in
the off season he gets spun off, but that number
one pick this year probably has more value than what
any year in recent memory. Right, So when you need
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a lot of stuff, and they need a lot of stuff,
that it becomes the curiosity of the second half of
how you manage it when you've already committed to dollars
and cents and that contract that someone else would have
to absorb to spin him off. Like because if you
can go into the draft and get one of these
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other young guys, unproven, unknown, but we have the body
of work that Kyler has plus a big major injury,
maybe you want that drafting instead.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Mike, You know what, this is actually really interesting because
there are so many angles to this and it can
go so many ways. And what you're saying is actually
what they're really saying. Right, If him and again and
get along, then the head coach and the quarterback is
a big deal. Right, So if they got along and
that was the guy that you know you want moving
forward for next year and keep him and you still
(25:10):
have the number more pick to the auction off and
get more pieces, then that's the play.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Well that's probably why we see Clayton tune a while longer. Right.
I don't know that Kyler River comes out of the
bubble wrap.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
He's not going to play If that's the case, No,
for sure, because yeah, he wouldn't come back to be
able to turn that thing around.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That being said, Big Weell has already done a one
and done with the coach before.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
He's done it with a coach and a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
So yeah, so we've certainly seen that, right So Jos, Yeah,
Rosen and certainly Steve Wilkes who got called out. I
want to ask you about this as a defensive back
and a guy who played in the league a number
of years. It's in the intro all pro people can
look up. We were talking about your tax brackets and
all that fun stuff. You were paid commensurate to the
(25:59):
level you played, right, I give you all props, all
love for the career that you had. We certainly talked
about you a lot on the radio. That play dissected
so many ways, right, Addison and the touchdown sixty yarder
ahead of the half, and then the head coach comes
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out and calls out Wilkes for the defensive call. I
should have overruled it. Guy was in a position to
make a play. He just didn't make the play. Doesn't
matter what the hell else was going on. His hands
were on the football and he should have caught it
and been going the other way. How's that Steve Wilks's fault?
Why does everybody hate Steve Wilkes?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
They're hating Steve Wilkes for other things at the moment
right now, and it just kind of perpetuates the fact
that a lot of people don't think he's the right
guy for that job. Right, So anything that happens negatively
or gives more credence to what they are already feel,
that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Coaches, coach, players play, and players have to make the call.
Make the play right.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
But you know a lot of those situations, I know
a lot of coaches like to play all out blits
in certain situations to make sure the ball gets out
quick and you know, blah blah blah blah blah. But yeah,
at the end of the day, it's about the players
making the play man. And I hate when if the
head coach just took the call and said.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
We made the wrong call, that would be But again
it goes back to being a leader. Yeah, being accountable.
It's a WI.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, don't put we lose.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Right, It's a wei. And then goes back to Josh McDaniels.
And it's one of the things I don't like about
Kevin o'connells. When I don't like about Lincoln Riley heberfluses
the king of it. You might as well put a
crown and a cape on that game. Nothing's his fault.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
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Speaker 3 (27:50):
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for some dopey thing I said, or some piece of
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music or television or film history that I wanted you
to remember on this date. Now we've got the Lakers
and the Clippers coming down to the wire. They're in
a TV timeout one seventeen one fourteen, eighteen point five
seconds left. We'll get to that coming up in about
ten minutes as we watch the dramatic finish of that game.
But earlier today, the news of Bob Knight passing the
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legendary Indiana Texas Tech coach USA Basketball. All of those
things look a guy that you see the word complicated.
For a long time while he was still in the
coaching realm, it was embattled because he fought with everybody.
But what you can't argue with is success. Yeah, the titles,
(28:58):
the Olympics, the number of kids that graduated through his
program through the year, all of that goes through. Yes
you've got incidents, Yes you've got some quotes that leave
you a little unnerved. I always just love the fishing
show that he had fishing and the golf show that
he did back in the day, and the golf tips
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were some of the best, and our staff they went
through and they got all the curse words out, because well,
it's Bob Knight going to work on the golf course
to teach you how to improve your game.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
There's no place that better services my appetite than Pizza Hut.
Even after a bad round, if I have a chance
to smell the pizza, I'm hooked. It's just like I've
made three birdies in a row. I'm into the parking
lot at the Pizza Hut, and my appetite is satisfied
pretty quickly when I'm there. Pizza Hut is the appetite
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what Jack Nicholas is the golf.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So there you go there like he would do these reads.
And if you go onto YouTube and go down that
rabbit hole tomorrow because it is as good as again,
you know, we can't we you literally can't even have
the next line without a bunch of curls. So like
every time he mishits like trying to demonstrate here I
am with my you know five iron you blankety blankety blank.
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And his co host is a golf pro who's laughing
and chuckling. At times, he just starts cursing because he's
really awkward alongside Bob and things like that, right, he
just the simple reads he goes. That's a bleep and
bleep in Tony. It's like and you hear someone yell,
it's not Tony's being Emmy. It's like TV and some
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of the others, like just promos for going to the grocery.
Here's what you should do. You go to the grocery
store and you get your wife a knife steak to
cook for you. Like, wait, what I call it? These
promos like and I go down that rabbit hole. In
addition into some of the coaching quotes and the back
and forth, right intimidating at press conferences, and yeah, that's
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exactly exactly what you know justin Prosberg, our Executi producer
in my ear, you know the the it's a different mold, right,
It's a different time. And and even towards the end
of his run, you saw how differently things were navigated
during his time at Texas Tech versus Indiana the fiefdom.
For me, I had the one great interaction. He always
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came to Northwestern and Indiana would roll in and celebration. Right,
we had some of the greats coming through all the time,
between he and Gene Katie and and some others that
would traverse the Big ten sidelines. Uh and usually pretty
good with the student section and and and would you know,
you know, smile and wave, especially when they were drumming us.
(31:48):
But one year, close game, wintry night, and I had
a basketball with me, like collecting autographs, you know, my
kid whatever, And I have a basketball, and I'm like,
I'm gonna stay by the Northwestern side. There's like fifty
boosters standing over by the Indiana locker room. Sure enough,
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coach Knight comes out the Northwestern side like just keep
walking and like does the whole thing where he kind
of draws up to beat us with this big play
at the end of the game, and he's like, just
keep going, signs the basketball, and I get with him,
and I'm a human shield all the way out the
door to the bus. So he gets right past all
the boosters and he goes to get on the bus,
(32:29):
grabs me anything like to brace himself because it's you know,
slush on the ground.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
He goes, thanks kid, I needed that. And he gets
on the bus and you see all these people coming
running after us trying to get that that minute to
shake his hand in glad hand but for that night
he got away without having to do it.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
That's one of my favorites. That's a that's a great story.
And I could say I could see you doing that, Mike.
I know you're you're a man of the people and
you care about it's.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
A good blocking assignment. Yeah, you're trying to think of
you got to clean it up because you can't use
the words coach Night exactly. I'm gonna let that one go.
But great story.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I want to talk about Coach Knight in the way
that you know, we talked about the good, bad and ugly, right,
let's talk about good back, good bad and ugly.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
This Laker game is crazy. I don't know how it
ends up in overtime.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We'll get to overtime. That means we get free basketball
into the fourth hour of the show.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Throwing me off, But Coach Night man one of those
guys that you know, enigmatic obviously only I would think
from the from the outside of any program means he's
ever been at. But you know, even though with all
the complexities of him as a human being and all
the you know, the the outbursts that we saw and
all the things that happened around him, I think the
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one thing about him which can will always ring true
is that how how good of a coach he was.
And I think a lot of the antics kind of
water down what he did and did and what he
meant for the and I think we need to appreciate
that part of it as well.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Well.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
When you go through and you look at a lot
of those squads, it's not like he was running around
with some of the talent necessarily that you would see
at Duke or what Kentucky or whatever. Became like he
molded guys into a team exactly. Godspeed, Bob Knight. Will
continue to celebrate those clips, but we'll go back into
this Laker Clipper game.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
It's chaos.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Oh my god.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Welcome in. Second half of the show begins Mike Harmen
alongside as you heard all Pro safety Carry Rhodes strumming
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See how that applies to our NFL world. As we
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the way tire buying should be. World Series Game five
and everybody out and about Arizona flooding the streets after
(01:13):
the win and certainly on the streets of Arlington, Texas
as the Rangers celebrate their World Series win five games,
Corey Seeger winning the MVP. Every once in a while,
the broken clock is right, Harmon gets a prediction right
of the series and the MVP. Yay me fifty to one.
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We're seeing the tickets that people are cashing at casinos,
online and otherwise throughout the world. So good job by
them if you put the money down back when they
were fifty to one. Big payroll and expenses and they
get the job done. Over Arizona, the big Blasts coming
(01:56):
through after a gutty effort from Vivaldi to work out
of trouble, the Diamondbacks zero for nine with runners in
scoring position and wasting a fantastic effort from Zach Gallon
who had a no hitter through.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Six yep, but not in the seventh.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, he gave up that loan run in the seventh,
and really that's all all all it took. And we
watched watched it unravel five to nothing, your final strikeout
looking to end it all. Always appropriate, uh, and you
look at just what was what they were able to
do rolling through all of the expectations from the heavyweights,
(02:36):
and the Astros were there in the end. Uh counted
them out for much of the year, a lot of injuries, inconsistency,
playing great baseball down the stretch, and they were able
to vanquish them. And Dusty Baker goes into retirement quote
unquote because you know, the doors cracked like a kind
of like a horror movie. You think they're done, but
(02:59):
back like that. No, that's good. Yeah, all of a
sudden the door creaks back open, and away we go.
We used a lot of those yesterday. I don't know
when we have any of those lab but for Dusty Baker,
one of the game's great managers.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And people people person people people, I don't know whatever,
you know, you know, you know what I was trying
to say there, But he and Bruce Bochi squared off.
You're able to vanquish them and send them away, even
with Jordan Alvarez doing crazy stuff in the end, it's
see Corey, seeger Adoles Garcia show. And here we are
(03:33):
now celebrating the end of a baseball season, and immediately
everybody put up these giant clocks, going how fast is
there an offer for show? Hey Hotani, how quickly does
this the resolve is like we got straight to that
in my time, I was like, oh, congratulations, that's great.
Here are the top free agents at heys and get
after it.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
And the crazy thing about that, Sho Hay is as
as great as he is. Obviously going to talk about
him here soon, but he's he's not going to change
one organization by himself. And so I think the part
about what the Rangers did, they went on and got
multiple pieces, right, so we obviously want to know where
so he's gonna go because I mean, he's a so stopper,
(04:13):
one of the best players in the league. But one
guy isn't going to get you over to hump. And
I know he he's more than one guy when he's healthy,
but he hasn't been healthy, so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, I would be remiss getting a lot of messages
on Twitter. You know, Jason, while he knew the Rangers
were gonna win because I predicted them and he took
the Diamondbacks, he did not take to night off because
he anticipated the Rangers winning. So here's how you can
reach him though, And how about a fresco on Twitter?
Because you're finding and sending them to me. All about
(04:47):
Schurezer into Grom and I appreciate them. Boy, they're lining
up in droves. What do you got, Frostberg? I was
gonna say he took the night off because he knew
schres Are and the groum we're gonna be World Series champions. Yeah,
face that. Psychologically, I'm sure it's very to him right now.
Uh but it's funny how many people are like quoting
things from March off Twitter because you know he loves
(05:07):
to do that, right. I hate to say I told
you so does. That's one of Jason's favorite things. And
right now people are bringing back old tweets about de
grom Insureser and going you said this too, x Mets
now good even if they weren't on the field. Yeah,
I mean they brought that clubhouse spirit, camaraderie and look
(05:28):
sure out a little bit until he needed a backy
out of me.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
You all, it's all good, exactly. He did all right,
the Grom didn't you know, have a real hand in
the thing. But uh, yeah, I mean that's what happens
in baseball.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Man.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
You get to, you know, be on one team that
you think is gonna have a chance to win a
World Series, and that kind of derails and next thing,
you know, you're in a better situation. And it's just
it's really it's really ironic how baseball goes right. I
mean even with the asteroids, right, Berlanda goes back there
and almost gets back to the to the World seas
again as well.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
So it's just part of baseball.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Dillings, is that what I do for Like his birthday
is gonna come up soon to do I just give
him a box and when he opens it, it's a
bunch of ex met ballplayers who've gone on to greatness
once they left.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And get it signed. If you can get a signed.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No, no, that's efforts that costs money. No, no, no,
the trading cards. I just go to the Commons box.
But with the little effort you stick it in and
they like twist it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I can do Verland, we can talk to Ben. You know,
maybe we could have talked to Verlander to mock him.
But no, all good things. I mean, just a fun series.
I know people were down on the ratings and it's
like I hate this team or that team. U I know,
h if you're fans of certain squads, former Padres getting
rings uh not sitting well with some of our guys
(06:45):
here in the offices, So you know, that's it's a lot.
We wrap everybody in a big hug. It's okay, still
a World Series title, it's still a big deal.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
I think Brendan's back there, so we're probably crying, kicking,
and he was not happy.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, yeah, no, he certainly was not happy by the
fact that you know, you saw Austin Hedges get a ring,
so that's certainly vexing him. He expressed that even before
the game had gone final. So you know, it's all good. Look,
hope Spring's Eternal will start advancing. There was a fifty
(07:22):
one shot like that's one thing. Now your team may
not be able to go out and spend the kind
of money the Rangers did to reverse course of recent history.
We talked about one hundred loss seasons and everything else,
But the opportunity certainly does avail itself to you in
short order. As we start getting into the silly season,
hot stove and rumor conjecture, speculations, we got plenty of that.
(07:44):
John Balmerosi as always, will be with us throughout the
offseason as things start to play out and managerial changes,
et cetera. But it lends us straight to the NFL
trying to find that diamond in the rough, right, because
the Lion second half of last year, people were starting
to jump on board that bandwagon. All the laughter about
(08:06):
Dan Campbell and biting kneecaps and all that stuff. It
was gone because they were embodying a different type of
Lions team. And look, I love Barry Sanders watching him
except against the Bears, and Calvin Johnson except against the Bears.
Watching those teams, they had component parts kind of like
we were talking about with the Raiders earlier, who we'll
get back to here before long, but that never came together, right,
(08:31):
Guys like Lomus Brown whatever. There's some legends and guys
that played some great football for a bad franchise. But
we watched as the season war on last year that
they embodied some of their head coach, former NFL player
and seeing those connections. That's one of those things where
I think you're intrigued by Antonio Pierce a little bit,
(08:51):
right especially, and I've seen this throughout the social media.
I mean, what's it mean when an next player gets
the shot, even if it's temporary.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I think when the ex player gets a shot like
a Dan Campbell right, his career kind of you know,
kind of presides who he is, right, and so the
mentality that he had with that opening press conference as
outlandis and a little bit of a caricature of what
(09:22):
a press conference should be.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Well, look is that some peers today, right, it's not
from Compton, California, and this is who.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Yes, and like it's a little bit of a caricature,
but it is who they are as well. And so
there's a level of when you see some of that stuff,
you Okay, he's doing too much, and if you're not
a player, you won't understand it.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
But if you're a player and you know that that.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Track record of who that player is presides that you're
gonna hop on board with that.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
One of the things that we can hear a little
Antonio Pierce from earlier today as he takes over control
of the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
That had opportunities to leave and go to other organizations,
I decided not to. The short story a matter of
fact is I grew up in Compton, California. I was
born a Raider. I was born with the Raiders rolling
in the coliseum in LA I was rolling with NWA
talker straight out of Compton Rock and Raider hats. So
an opportunity came to work with Josh and Pat Graham
and Dave, I jumped on it.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
So that's what set me up for this. I was
born this way.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
There you go, He gets a little lady ga gay
at the back end.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I was born this way.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
But just that that spirit, right, Raider fans, whatever the
results are, at least for today. Look, there was a
liking problem with Josh McDaniels. They didn't it is, and
they didn't the entire way. Like when he got hired,
it was like, all right, here's wonder boy. Is he
gonna do what he did to the Colts? And no show? Well, no,
(10:47):
he came and then you saw what it became. My
house divided. Derek Carr the end of last year operations
shut down, so he was healthy and he gets spun
off Devontae Adams raising his hands saying, what about me?
Josh Jacobs looking with a giant sign running back, should
get paid to you know, I mean, you had all
of that going on and swirling in the background. But
(11:08):
to link that Pierce audio back to Campbell because Campbell's
got a staff full of x NFL play. It does
so room to room. You got guys that can talk
about the highs the lows, and they can call you
on your bs in a way that the guys that
just went through the normal coaching ranks, well, they can't.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Mike.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
It's like one of those things where, I mean, we've
seen it a lot. When you have guys that have
been through that fire, been through the wars, the conversations
are a little bit different. And also it just holds
a little bit more weight because you know what I've
been through. I'm hurting right now. I'm going to give
you everything I can. And he understands what that means too, right, Like,
(11:52):
it's not just this player and this coach that's really
smart and can do analytics and can draw plays in
the dirt and and it works when you're doing that, right,
But when it's moving parts players going through the grind
of a season and knowing how that feels too, and
knowing how to bring guys together with not just the
(12:17):
not just talk, but the way that you do talk,
it's a big difference.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yeah, because it is a curiosity, right, you make this
move now if you're the Raiders and you've got the
road to go with Aidan O'Connell will see what it is.
Because McDaniel's famously a couple of weeks ago, when asked
why Hoyer got the start over him just said, it's
not pre season anymore, as if to you know, a
backhand slap of yeah, that was great. That was and
we don't know, like we got to see O'Connell a
(12:43):
little bit, but when you're thrust into a game. He
didn't throw up on himself, right, It wasn't terrible, like
we've certainly seen worst efforts from rookie quarterbacks coming in
an emergency relief. But that showed a little bit of
a dismissiveness to your lawcker room, which was it would
seem done necessary even at the time, not not even
(13:04):
foreshadowing two to three weeks later you're throwing the door,
shown the door and thrown out with the bad fish.
Is that you kind of showed you showed yourself a
little bit in that moment instead of saying, hey, the
rook isn't ready, Yes, I need a veteran guy. This
is a team. We're near five hundred whatever I mean,
(13:24):
And it's coach speak and it's a bit of a
tap dance, right. I always reference the Richard gear performance
as Billy Flynn in Chicago, where he just like starts
tap dancing while he's saying a whole lot of nothing.
As a coach, sometimes you need to do that, and
instead you basically just said, yeah, he's no good, which
anybody that had watched him through college and whatever I'm
(13:47):
put on tape in the preseason, yeah, and practices a
different animal, of course, would have gone down that road.
It's like, well, that seemed done necessarily harsh for the situation.
Sometimes you need the kid gloves.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, he definitely did not say it correctly, and he
doesn't look look like somebody who would actually take the
time to say it correctly, you know what I mean.
And that's the that's the issue here, right, because obviously
Hoyer was the right person to go to in that moment,
especially that first game, the one that was in game
(14:20):
where he knows the system, he knows the Patriots, he
knows all the ins and outs around what that.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Entails, right, So that made sense.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Now the following week, having a full week, obviously you
drafted this kid, we know how talent and talented he is.
If you're as good a coach as you say you are.
You getting ready to plays. That's that's what my whole
take would have been, you know, speaking.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Of coaching him up. We're gonna go to Arizona coming
up next. Lots swirling about the ownership and a big
report that came out from ESPN some that we've heard
whispers for. It's an organization you played for, so we'll
get your perspective on your time there, But certainly the
war of Kyler Murray is where I want to traverse
next at Carrie twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Welcome back, fun, hotly contested, chaotic night in the world
of sports. The Rangers are World Series champions. Five games.
They take care of the Arizona Diamondbacks five nothing the win.
Corey Seeger wins your World Series MVP. Now we're back
into the world of the NBA. You celebrated the Mavericks
(15:34):
beating my beloved Chicago Bulls earlier. Maybe a little little
um much and I heard some change jingling in your pocket.
Carrie Rhodes in for Jason Smith tonight as we come
to you live from the Tirak dot com studios. We
just watched Sabonis hit a big shot you call it
bank the bank was open. And then the ensuing possession
(15:56):
for the Warriors down one hundred and one hundred, and
they can't get the ball back to steph He's running off,
can't break free, can't get screened properly. So the ball
get back and you even yelled, there's like steph Ain
getting back. It gets the ball into Clay Thompson and
Thompson bay knocks it down, knocks down the jumper. One
(16:18):
oh two, one oh one, now, zero point two seconds remaining. Meanwhile,
the battle for La the Lakers seven point thirty two remaining,
a timeout on the court, a four point lead over
those pesky Clippers as we go deep into the fourth quarter.
So great stuff all around, a great day of sports.
We had the what what they call it the sports
(16:41):
Equinox or whatever the other day with all the major sports.
Kind of like the world from Jack Skellington and the
Nightmare before Christmas. You walk into the forest and you
decide which door you want to go into. Same thing
here with your sports what do you want to watch?
You got it all?
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Hey?
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So earlier today, a report comes out on Bidwell and
the management of the Arizona Cardinals, alleging a lot of
(17:20):
workplace and this has been going on for a little
while here right that we've heard this percolating. Now it's
more buttoned up in longer form about certain exchanges with
the employees, one that goes down to parking spots and
yelling things at people when we start getting into potentially
some racially charged commentary that comes in. So there's a
(17:44):
lot swirling there. We know, organizationally, Steve Kim and the
team that had been put together before he was relieved
of duties. There were a lot of questions of draft
picks not making it through, some of the free agent signings,
a lot of the free agent signings that didn't quite
go according to plan, and so you've had some organizational
(18:07):
disfunction well for a while. Yeah, Now, you played there
at the end of your career. What was it a
coming from the Jets. I mean, because we tried to
do the compare and contrast. Right, You've got the metal
stand and we always talk about stability in Pittsburgh and
Baltimore and how they do things versus the rest of
the NFL. Can you give us any insights of what
(18:28):
you saw inside the building? Obviously it's it's a few
years removed, but the same family.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Same family.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, and you know what I mean, the last big
free agent that came into town was probably probably me.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
No, I'm joking, I like that start pointing no, no, no, no, that.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Was only one thumb. You didn't give it second second
or half no. But when I went in, you know
it was Yeah, it was never top not. You know,
there wasn't any Ill's stability there. Obviously they had the
two years before I got there really good with Kurt
Warner and Larry Fitzgerald an offense and has some success,
(19:09):
but yeah, I mean it always felt like a second
rate kind of organization. Did you ever get billed for
your meals in the offseason when you're in there working
in the film room and stuff, because that was one
of the reports for this offseason. Do you ever get hey,
you bought a chicken palm plate on Monday? No, man,
because I mean when we saw it, we referenced Moneyball before.
(19:30):
I mean, that was one of the famous things. I
don't want my guys paying for for soda anymore.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
You know what the crazy part about that question you
just asked me, I'm not one hundred percent sure because I.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Was actually checked the line. He's like, now I have
to go check and see my deductions again, different tax
brackets during time.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Exactly right, And that's that's real. That's the real statement.
So I may not have known this, So let me
actually go check these receipts after this show.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I'll let you know next time.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, let me know check the does the Dutch's go
back and.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They took out what? Yeah? I know you are I
think you owe me something, sir.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, I mean a legit question because we watch organization,
because I mean, the Bengals for years, that was always
the reputation, and even with success, there's still always that
side eye of have things really changed have they not?
But now we've got this situation, and we predicted it
the other night when all of a sudden after Sunday's game,
(20:27):
Dobbs is our starter, blah blah blah. Meet the media
the next day. Well, after watching the film, he's third, like, no,
you were trading him right now. It just became a
where's he going? He ends up going to the Vikings,
which is interesting. We'll talk about the Vikings because they
now hold the longest tenure of a Big Four franchise
(20:49):
without a title, after the Rangers One to Night, established
in nineteen sixty one. So there you go. I add value,
just random stats that I pulled up that now matter,
even molt and tie back in. See we weave a
rich tapestry. So factoids here good. But now there you've
got Clayton Tune, the young kid. You're in pole position.
(21:11):
You want Drake May, you want Caleb Williams, whoever it is.
And look it's it's now the silly season, so people
are going to try to sell their narrative of the
quarterback they like most, Whether Caleb Williams should be the
first or not, whatever, We've got months to fight about that.
But the point is Arizona right now, if the draft
were today, they've got the number one slot. So you've
(21:32):
got Clayton tune. But all the while leading up to
the trade deadline. And this is where I ask you
if if I'm reading this room right, is Kyleer Murray's healthy,
He practiced fully, He's almost ready. How much was that a?
All right? He's ready and ready to play for us
versus Hey, you all need quarterbacks, come knocking on the
(21:55):
door if the price is right.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Oh, you're reading the room one hundred correct there, because
he could have played last week. And you know, obviously
if he was your franchise guy and somebody that you
were actually trying to win games with.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Once he's ready and the available he's playing.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
But with this squad right now, like you got you
gotta be you gotta be real.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
No, no, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
You're so just saying, all right, we got a half season.
Can we legitimately do any damage with the component parts
that are there with a healthy Kyler Murray?
Speaker 5 (22:23):
Well, if he was your franchise quarterback, yes, because as
bad as Arizona has been record wise, in all of
these games, they had a chance to win and.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
They were fighting Cardinals exactly. No, like really they beat
the Cowboys, the Cowboys and every.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Other I mean even Baltimore last week.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
They were Wow, that was that was backdoor?
Speaker 5 (22:43):
Oh no, no, no, no, in the first half I think
the I think a half time was fourteen seven.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah, and you're every in every game they've been in there.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Right, Eventually Connor does come back.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Who he's not a game game.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But terms of running backs, I mean, he's not far
off anymore. It's fine, let's let's talk about the running
back position. He's still a top ten guy in today's sure,
in today's NFL.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I don't know what that says.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I don't know either, but it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
But like, it's just the question of do you roll
him out with the opportunity in front of you number
one first versus like, maybe he's still your guy and
this is all going to the new brass post time,
post that new contract and everything. I'm looking around and go, well,
we like Kyler and from all reports he and Gannon
get along really well. He's been around the team and
(23:36):
really more invested perhaps than he had been.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Is he really though, if you're selling him as he's
healthy now to the other team and he's ready to go,
then you don't want to have any more bad stories
leak out either, because you don't want that guy to
be cancer.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
So if you know it's.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
A there's a lot of massage going on, but it's
the the idea of all right, if we're going to
get the number one pick, but we got our guy,
because now he's not traded, he's here now, maybe in
the off season he gets spun off, but that number
one pick this year probably has more value than what
any year in recent memory. Right, So when you need
(24:15):
a lot of stuff, and they need a lot of stuff,
that it becomes the curiosity of the second half of
how you manage it when you've already committed to dollars
and cents and that contract that someone else would have
to absorb to spin him off. Like because if you
can go into the draft and get one of these
(24:36):
other young guys, unproven, unknown, but we have the body
of work that Kyler has plus a big major injury,
maybe you want that drafting instead.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
Mike, You know what, this is actually really interesting because
there are so many angles to this and it can
go so many ways. And what you're saying is actually
what they're really saying. Right, If him and again and
get along, then the head coach and the quarterback is
a big deal. Right, So if they got along and
that was the guy that you know you want moving
forward for next year and keep him and you still
(25:10):
have the number more pick to the auction off and
get more pieces, then that's the play.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Well that's probably why we see Clayton tune a while longer. Right.
I don't know that Kyler River comes out of the
bubble wrap.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
He's not going to play If that's the case, No,
for sure, because yeah, he wouldn't come back to be
able to turn that thing around.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That being said, Big Weell has already done a one
and done with the coach before.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
He's done it with a coach and a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
So yeah, so we've certainly seen that, right So Jos, Yeah,
Rosen and certainly Steve Wilkes who got called out. I
want to ask you about this as a defensive back
and a guy who played in the league a number
of years. It's in the intro all pro people can
look up. We were talking about your tax brackets and
all that fun stuff. You were paid commensurate to the
(25:59):
level you played, right, I give you all props, all
love for the career that you had. We certainly talked
about you a lot on the radio. That play dissected
so many ways, right, Addison and the touchdown sixty yarder
ahead of the half, and then the head coach comes
(26:19):
out and calls out Wilkes for the defensive call. I
should have overruled it. Guy was in a position to
make a play. He just didn't make the play. Doesn't
matter what the hell else was going on. His hands
were on the football and he should have caught it
and been going the other way. How's that Steve Wilks's fault?
Why does everybody hate Steve Wilkes?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
They're hating Steve Wilkes for other things at the moment
right now, and it just kind of perpetuates the fact
that a lot of people don't think he's the right
guy for that job. Right, So anything that happens negatively
or gives more credence to what they are already feel,
that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Right.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Coaches, coach, players play, and players have to make the call.
Make the play right.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
But you know a lot of those situations, I know
a lot of coaches like to play all out blits
in certain situations to make sure the ball gets out
quick and you know, blah blah blah blah blah. But yeah,
at the end of the day, it's about the players
making the play man. And I hate when if the
head coach just took the call and said.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
We made the wrong call, that would be But again
it goes back to being a leader. Yeah, being accountable.
It's a WI.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
Yeah, don't put we lose.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Right, It's a wei. And then goes back to Josh McDaniels.
And it's one of the things I don't like about
Kevin o'connells. When I don't like about Lincoln Riley heberfluses
the king of it. You might as well put a
crown and a cape on that game. Nothing's his fault.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
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Speaker 3 (27:50):
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(28:12):
music or television or film history that I wanted you
to remember on this date. Now we've got the Lakers
and the Clippers coming down to the wire. They're in
a TV timeout one seventeen one fourteen, eighteen point five
seconds left. We'll get to that coming up in about
ten minutes as we watch the dramatic finish of that game.
But earlier today, the news of Bob Knight passing the
(28:35):
legendary Indiana Texas Tech coach USA Basketball. All of those
things look a guy that you see the word complicated.
For a long time while he was still in the
coaching realm, it was embattled because he fought with everybody.
But what you can't argue with is success. Yeah, the titles,
(28:58):
the Olympics, the number of kids that graduated through his
program through the year, all of that goes through. Yes
you've got incidents, Yes you've got some quotes that leave
you a little unnerved. I always just love the fishing
show that he had fishing and the golf show that
he did back in the day, and the golf tips
(29:22):
were some of the best, and our staff they went
through and they got all the curse words out, because well,
it's Bob Knight going to work on the golf course
to teach you how to improve your game.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
There's no place that better services my appetite than Pizza Hut.
Even after a bad round, if I have a chance
to smell the pizza, I'm hooked. It's just like I've
made three birdies in a row. I'm into the parking
lot at the Pizza Hut, and my appetite is satisfied
pretty quickly when I'm there. Pizza Hut is the appetite
(29:57):
what Jack Nicholas is the golf.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So there you go there like he would do these reads.
And if you go onto YouTube and go down that
rabbit hole tomorrow because it is as good as again,
you know, we can't we you literally can't even have
the next line without a bunch of curls. So like
every time he mishits like trying to demonstrate here I
am with my you know five iron you blankety blankety blank.
(30:24):
And his co host is a golf pro who's laughing
and chuckling. At times, he just starts cursing because he's
really awkward alongside Bob and things like that, right, he
just the simple reads he goes. That's a bleep and
bleep in Tony. It's like and you hear someone yell,
it's not Tony's being Emmy. It's like TV and some
(30:45):
of the others, like just promos for going to the grocery.
Here's what you should do. You go to the grocery
store and you get your wife a knife steak to
cook for you. Like, wait, what I call it? These
promos like and I go down that rabbit hole. In
addition into some of the coaching quotes and the back
and forth, right intimidating at press conferences, and yeah, that's
(31:07):
exactly exactly what you know justin Prosberg, our Executi producer
in my ear, you know the the it's a different mold, right,
It's a different time. And and even towards the end
of his run, you saw how differently things were navigated
during his time at Texas Tech versus Indiana the fiefdom.
For me, I had the one great interaction. He always
(31:28):
came to Northwestern and Indiana would roll in and celebration. Right,
we had some of the greats coming through all the time,
between he and Gene Katie and and some others that
would traverse the Big ten sidelines. Uh and usually pretty
good with the student section and and and would you know,
you know, smile and wave, especially when they were drumming us.
(31:48):
But one year, close game, wintry night, and I had
a basketball with me, like collecting autographs, you know, my
kid whatever, And I have a basketball, and I'm like,
I'm gonna stay by the Northwestern side. There's like fifty
boosters standing over by the Indiana locker room. Sure enough,
(32:09):
coach Knight comes out the Northwestern side like just keep
walking and like does the whole thing where he kind
of draws up to beat us with this big play
at the end of the game, and he's like, just
keep going, signs the basketball, and I get with him,
and I'm a human shield all the way out the
door to the bus. So he gets right past all
the boosters and he goes to get on the bus,
(32:29):
grabs me anything like to brace himself because it's you know,
slush on the ground.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
He goes, thanks kid, I needed that. And he gets
on the bus and you see all these people coming
running after us trying to get that that minute to
shake his hand in glad hand but for that night
he got away without having to do it.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
That's one of my favorites. That's a that's a great story.
And I could say I could see you doing that, Mike.
I know you're you're a man of the people and
you care about it's.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
A good blocking assignment. Yeah, you're trying to think of
you got to clean it up because you can't use
the words coach Night exactly. I'm gonna let that one go.
But great story.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
I want to talk about Coach Knight in the way
that you know, we talked about the good, bad and ugly, right,
let's talk about good back, good bad and ugly.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
This Laker game is crazy. I don't know how it
ends up in overtime.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We'll get to overtime. That means we get free basketball
into the fourth hour of the show.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Throwing me off, But Coach Night man one of those
guys that you know, enigmatic obviously only I would think
from the from the outside of any program means he's
ever been at. But you know, even though with all
the complexities of him as a human being and all
the you know, the the outbursts that we saw and
all the things that happened around him, I think the
(33:49):
one thing about him which can will always ring true
is that how how good of a coach he was.
And I think a lot of the antics kind of
water down what he did and did and what he
meant for the and I think we need to appreciate
that part of it as well.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Well.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
When you go through and you look at a lot
of those squads, it's not like he was running around
with some of the talent necessarily that you would see
at Duke or what Kentucky or whatever. Became like he
molded guys into a team exactly. Godspeed, Bob Knight. Will
continue to celebrate those clips, but we'll go back into
this Laker Clipper game.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
It's chaos.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Oh my god.
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