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February 22, 2018 122 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon explain why Mark Cuban's soft response to the ongoing domestic violence within the Mavericks organization makes him look like a enabler - and why a $600,000 fine should be the least of his worries going forward, why it looks like Kawhi Leonard's days are numbered in San Antonio, why you shouldn't be shocked that Rick Pitino still can't take responsibility for his role in the Louisville stripper scandal, and much more! Plus, Dallas Morning News columnist Matt Mosley stops by

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from the United States versus Canada gold medal Ice hockey.
I guarantee it's gonna be a better effort that that
shootout we watched last night. We had a better effort
in the car chase that we were watching here Inside
the guy go Fox Sports Radio Studios that we did

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in the men's loss. NBC in Los Angeles cut away
from the Olympics to show a car that's a good move.
How big it wins. How bad are the Olympic ratings?
When you know, we gotta show a car chase. But
it was a good car chase. Guy went under the
the the track tracks and got away. My wife and

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I were talking about that after the show last night. Yeah,
that's a smart thing to do. Okay, look at today,
I didn't see any evidence that it actually caught the perpetrator.
What do we got going on? Well, let's see where
it's the aftermath of the men's hockey team and they
just lost. What else do we have? Oh we have
some short uh program? Uh figure scanning women's Yeah, what else?
We have some more curling and what else? Uh? Is

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a police chase? Cut the feed? Got the feed? Go
to the police chase. Now we had the short track
skating where we had people getting pushed down, and that's
all it is. It was kind of interesting that people
getting snubbed and and looked away from. But then that
was that was on the cable networks. But on the
local NBC A Villi and they said, to hell with this,

(02:13):
let's go with what wins. Hearkening all the way back
to anchor Man and run now before we get to
mark you. But I want to I want to throw this.
You've seen that short track speed skating how fast every way?
Could you kind of like the same philosophy of putting
as suma wrestler and goalie in the NHL. Could you
give that guy, Give a short track speed skater a stick,

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teach him how to stick handle, and he would be
unstoppable Because these guys get from it would be one
dot in the on on one side to the next
dot in front of the goalie, in front of the
goalie on the team in two seconds. I mean, they
can go just have to skate around the net, pick
up the pucket, like right around the dot, and they're

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down the ice in two seconds. Who's getting in their
way to stop them? Nobody can. He's right in front
of the net for a shot every single time. I
don't know about the the ice skating capacity of a
sumo wrestler. No, no, no, Well he just had to
sit there. But I'm starting to think about that he
just had to sit He would But you can have
that one be the enforcer and then another in net,

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but they won't be able to do that move like
the Czech Republic goalie was so successful with. You'd have
a little bit of trouble with the split side. Guess
I don't know. I mean, I could you brought it back?
So I had to, you know, finish the job. Tighth,
what's up with gronk? Why there you're at a D

(03:39):
plus night already. I'm just gonna throw in misfire because
it was never really wrong to throw the gronk into
the party that I guess that's true. Yeah, you're right,
you can get to that. No matter where we're at.
Adding drawn to the party is a win. But it's
time for the NBA to step in and say, Mark Cuban,
we were leaving you temper reaily of your duties as

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owner of the Dallas Mavericks while we investigate these sexual
assault and harassment situation surrounding your basketball team. Last night,
the story broke. Sports Illustrated had a big expose that
detailed a culture and animal house type culture around the
Mavericks in which sexual harassment is part of an everyday thing.

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Their former CEO was accused of a couple of times
of sexual harassment situations. He stayed CEO for a long
time that he left to go to under armour, and
he was fired from there after two months, very murky
reasons why he was fired, and then he moved on
from there, went to another company. And if you look
in the liner notes, he's currently on a quote a sabbatical. Yeah,

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well I'm awad a bunch of money on the on
the dock and in the profits and then is on
a sabbatical. So you've got a nice trail that is following.
And then Knew had the story of Earl Sneed, who
was a reporter slash television host that was hired by
Mark Human in two thousand and nine and stayed employed
by the team until last night. He was a TV

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host up until last summer, which is what we found
out last night. And Earl Sneed, who twice in his
time with the Mavericks had domestic violent situations police reports,
one where his girlfriend wound up with a broken wrist.
Police were called, he fled the scene. At the time,
he stayed on with the Dallas Mavericks. And then there

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was another situation in which he was dating someone who
worked for the Mavericks and she showed up to work
with a puffy face. Apparently he hit her. She brought
her complaint to human resources, and still Earl Sneed was
allowed to stay as an employee of the Dallas Mavericks.
Now last night, when this story broke, Mark cubans exact

(05:53):
response was, I don't know about this. I'm hearing this
for the first time. That's what he said. And we
talked about halls about the couple of days prior that
there was something brewing but specific, but he said, listen,
I'm just hearing this for the first time. This is
ab horrent behavior. It's terrible, and we're like, okay, can
you really believe Mark Cuban when he says, I'm just

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the owner, you know, the Rick Pettino. I'm just I'm
just the head coach. I don't know anything about all
this illegal stuff. I'm just the owner. As hands on
as Mark Cuban is emailing fans every five minutes. When
they say, hey, Mark, how's it going, he says, I'm
just hearing about this. Now today a much different story
with a statement he gave the ESPN about this situation

(06:36):
in which he said that it is my fault that
this went on. It came down to my file decision
that I made surrounding both his CEO and Earl Sneed.
This is a far cry from last night. Yeah, I'm
just hearing about this for the first time. So already
Mark Cuban has lied about domestic violence. He has lied

(06:56):
about this situation. But here's what gets me, and this
is why the NBA has to step in right now.
I'm not I'm not an alarmist. I'm not saying something
without knowing the facts. Mark Cuban has admitted. This is
my fault when it comes to Earl Sneed. This is
what he said. Quote. It was bad, but we made

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a mistake about the whole thing and didn't pursue what
happened with the police after the fact. So we got
it mostly from Earl's perspective, and because we didn't dig in,
we kind of we didn't see all the details until
just recently. So okay, it's a half fast investigation into
Earl Sneed. But then this is what I can't believe,
and this is where I go, are you kidding? So

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when the second time came around direct quote from Mark Cuban,
the way I looked at it was and again, in hindsight,
it was a mistake. I didn't want to just fire
him because then he would go out there and get
hired again and do it somewhere else. That's what I
was truly afraid of, and that was the discussion we
had internally. It was a choice between just firing him
and making sure that we had control of him. So

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he kept him on, and he made him sign an
agreement that he would stay away from women. He wouldn't
be alone in the company of another woman without a chaperone.
Here was a step from the statements of the Dallas
Morning News. Quote signed a contract stating I would not
have one on one contact or Frida and eyed with
female employees. After that second incident, that he underwent counseling

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for years and that followed to quote avoid future instances.
And he thanks Cuban in the statement that he gave
to the Dallas News for his willingness to help facilitate
quote that growth. This tells you all you need to
know about Mark Cuban. He kept a guy on twice
who was involved in domestic violence situations which resulted in

(08:44):
violence and injuries towards two women, and he kept him
on and he said, so I can keep an eye
on him. I didn't want him to go somewhere else. Gee.
Maybe it's just me, but I would have fired the
guy and made sure people know this guy's a domestic
violence abuser. This guy's beat up a woman twice, but
may be out getting You know, I'm kind of stupid.
I can't figure out an easy solution like that, But

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this is what it is. If Earl Snead was caught
stealing from the Mavericks, let's just say instead of instead
of domestic violence, he was caught stealing. Security guard came
in and he's walking out with all kinds of Dirk
Novitsky jerseys. He's got basketballs, he got all kinds of stuff.
What happens He gets fired? Doesn't he gets fired right away?
If he gets caught twice doing it, does he get fired?

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Of course he gets fired. You get fired, you'd get
fired for stealing. But domestic violence towards women and he
keeps his job. And you wonder why women are afraid
to come forward. You wonder why they don't want to
come forward and tell their story when this is the
result of a guy who beat up a woman twice,
And the cognizant decision was, let's keep him around so
we can keep an eye on him. No, no, no,

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you cut that guy loose, and you make sure people
know this guy is toxic. You're an NBA owner, you
can set an email to people. You can say, listen,
don't hire this guy. This is what's going on after
all of that happens. This is what's deserving. The guys
signed an agreement to stay away from it. So you
know this is not something that well, we have to
wait and see is he guilty? Is he not? All

(10:09):
this was admitted. Mark Cuban laid it all out, and
I know he's flailing because he has no idea what
to do because I now I have to say something. Well,
this statement is is ludicrous. Ready, you go back to
yesterday and it became a hey, you know what, I
let people do their jobs and I stayed out of
the day to day operations. Uh. Some saying you know,

(10:30):
for the most part, when he's in Dallas and not
doing the TV shows and stuff, he may work from
home a bunch and not be as hands on. But
we know that already isn't passing the smell test on
a larger scale. You can't can't tell me he doesn't
have someone that works in his pr core or media

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relations or and I know I know he fired folks
from hr. But there's not someone there telling him how
dummy sounds in this process of Hey, you know what,
we want to protect other organizations from what he is,
but you know what, let's keep a toxic environment in
our own house. How do let's just keep that here?
How everybody's afraid of where he is at all times.

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That's the most brilliant thing I've ever heard an owners say.
Are you kidding me? This is a guy that aspirations
of and and ridiculing anything in the political process and
saying I could be president all these other things. And
this is the statement you come forward with. This is
how you your platform is. Hey, you know what, I
keep him around. So he's my problem, and every one

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of my employees doesn't feel safe coming to But on
the outside, you're great. I keep them all here. I
I fail to understand how he refused to take care
of his employees. Who all knew about the guy. It's
not like this was something well I don't know, I
don't know. Oh no, everybody knew. As you saw in
the story, everybody knew about these situations. Well, you get promoted,

(11:54):
and you're getting of what your promotion in jail's Hey,
that's great for you, gonna have a bigger paycheck, a
bigger office. By the way, good luck dealing with that guy.
That's the message you're getting across the organization. The You
can't be seen as going light on domestic violence. We
talked about it last night. Certain things. If you're talking
about cheating on a test in college or you know,

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recruiting violations, you know, I get it. This is something
human and you're seeing as for the last however many years,
you kept an unsafe work environment because you decided I
want to keep I'm gonna play god and keep an
eye on a guy when I should have just let
him loose. This is why the NBA need to say,
you know what, this is awful. This is the worst

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story we've had. You need to step away, and we
have to go and make sure that everything is above board.
And now this and now we have this unlocked on
the desk, and all your files are are open to investigation.
But you can't have any partners. You gotta absolve you know,

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yourself from any of these proceedings and the investigation that
goes forward, whatever the NBA decides to come in and whatever.
I guess you start looking at the FEDS or or
at least local law enforcement as well, when you're talking
about the practices that were allowed to go on inside
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Is he the guy to clean things up? Does he
need to go? We'll go inside the Mavericks for the
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(15:08):
Mark Cuban Mavericks owner has admitted in an interview with
ESPN that keeping MAVs dot com writer Earl sneed On
staff after two instance of domestic violence was quote a
horrible mistake. We also had to d m Usury former
CEO of the team that was helping the team make
money doing well, named as a serial sexual harasser in

(15:30):
the Big Sports Illustrated story that broke last night. Joining
us Now on the Hotline for more on This is
Matt Moseley covers the Mavericks Dallas Morning News. Matt, what's happening?
How are you, oh Man doing? Doing fine? Yeah? This
is Uh. It's been a pretty busy news week for
the MAVs and uh, things took a pretty bad turn

(15:51):
for them last night. So yeah, it's all I've been
writing about lately. When we look at what's next. Mark
Cuban tried to get in front of it today and
and and gave very awkward statements. He even admitted saying,
oh keeping him on was a mistake after the second
incidence of domestic violence. Talking about Earl's need after a
night ago when the story broke, he said, I'm just
kind of hearing this story for the first time. It

(16:14):
seems like he was really caught flat footed and and
and it was a deer in headlights with this. Well,
and that's that's a big part of the problem is
that he's now suggesting that he didn't know anything about
any of this, and he's gonna try to lead the
you know, answer and respond to all this. And for
a guy who has created the perception that he is

(16:36):
on top of everything and that he is constantly aware
of what everybody's doing in every department, that's sort of
a tough argument to suddenly make. And it, uh, it's
a it's sort of a convenient argument for him to
try to use right now, is what I don't I
don't come to the office. Now. You know, I've done
some work from the Mavericks in the past as far

(16:58):
as like you know, some podcasts, being helping them out
with some stuff, and I can't say that you know,
he doesn't come in. Um, Now, that doesn't mean because
you don't come into the office doesn't mean you don't
sort of know everything going on at the office and
that type of thing. So, um, I think right now
you'll hear people tell you, well, he wasn't there and
so this is what happened. But I it's it's pretty

(17:20):
bad in to your to to you know, add to
your point on this earl case neat thing. I think
the statement he made today to ESPN, I thought that
was pretty rough when he said, well, we decided to
keep him because we didn't want to send him somewhere
else where he would do the the same kind of thing.

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And in a sense, when he was trying what what
Cubans trying to say is we almost trying to rehabilitate him.
So we didn't cast him or or or forced him
on another organization. But basically, you sent the message to
the women in your own organization that listen to this guy,
We're gonna keep him around, even though now wife he's
had these uh these domestic violence, one of which was

(18:04):
with the MAV's employee who he was dating at the time. So, man,
this is a this is a really bad deal. Uh
And and I don't know what I don't understand why
is is I don't know if Mark Cuban is really
the appropriate one to lead the Mavericks through this, since
he was really the one that should have been overseeing

(18:26):
this whole thing in the first place. Well, that's it, right.
It would seem that the perception that he'd wanted to portray,
since he's took ownership of the team as the knowing,
all hands on owner, that superman kind of effect. At
this point, it really comes back to bite him, and
even in giving these press quotes today that he tried

(18:49):
to do it alone and ended up sticking his foot
in his mouth and making things infinitely worse. Yeah, I
don't I don't think he I don't think he helped
himself at all. And and one of the things is
this is this is sort of a crisis management time
and Mark likes to do everything on his own, and
so I I don't know it. Right now, he seems

(19:12):
to be kind of making all the calls on how
to respond to this. And oh, by the way, he
gets fine for six hundred tho dollars for saying the
man admitting the MAVs we're taking on that dr J
podcast during the All Star weekends that hits today. Uh,
in addition to everything he's dealing with, I'm you know,
I'm gonna be fascinated, guys to see what the league does.

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You know, in this environment, the league can't really just go, oh,
we're gonna find him. You know. There there's a sense
that there has to be serious punishment, and there's a
belief that when you find a multi billionaire that you know, again,
somebody had to note today that in for Mark Cuban
six hundred thousand is just you know, it just doesn't

(19:57):
hurt obviously as much as it would hurt the of us.
And so, uh, you know there is the NBA can
do a lot of things here, including the possibility of
taking a draft pick away from them. And this is
a team, don't forget that is uh that is in
tank mode and trying to secure a high draft pick.
So uh, you know, the most important thing is what

(20:19):
has happened to these females in the organization, how do
you clean that up? And then what will come next?
As far as what what will the NBA due to
the MAVs And the worst thing they could do to
Cuban is as far as like I I should say,
the best punishment, uh for to get his attention would

(20:40):
be to take him away from the team because it's
everything to him showing up with those games and being
hands on. Uh he he sort of wrote the book
as far as all of owners for this kind of
hands on and we think about that for years. People
are like, man, I wish we had an owner like
Mark Cuban, And I think that's why right now this
is uh, I mean, it's it would be a big

(21:02):
story with any team, but especially a guy that is
so public and has been so highly critical of our
current president leading up to the election and then after
he was elected for something like this now to to
you know, happen on Cuban's watch. I think a lot
of people are sitting back kind of saying, you've had

(21:22):
this coming in a circle, went Matt Mosey, Dallas Morning
News Mavericks Insider with us here on the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmen. See Matt, I think that's what
the NBA has to do right now. You know, it's
one thing to talk about tanking, and you know, get
fine and think with that, but this is a human
situation about a non safe work environment that Mark Cuban
allowed to have happened and go on for years. I

(21:44):
think the NBA has no choice but to say, while
we look into this further, we're removing you from day
to day operations because we need to know more about
this and more we You have a document, and you've
admitted that you kept a guy on after he was
and admitted domestic alb is it you had them sign
up a piece of paper that said I won't be
alone with a woman without a chaperone and still you

(22:06):
kept him on. I don't see how the they can't
be seen as as coming down light on domestic violence. Well,
I mean, we don't. To me, we'll see where they
come down on it. They're not. I mean, what they
did today was something completely unrelated to this. So I
don't think, Uh, I think the NBA will see them
act quickly. Now what it's almost like one of these

(22:29):
n ci A violation type deals. Will the will the
NBA wait and let the Mavericks bringing in this outside council, Uh,
some folks from New York and I think one from
New Jersey to come in and take a look at this.
Will the NBA wait and see what the findings are there?
Will they launch their own investigation? I mean I think

(22:51):
I think, well, you know, it remains to be seen.
But to your point, with every thing that's happened in
Hollywood and in this sort of post Weinstein world that
we live in now, there is an expectation that, you know,
the NBA is going to have to act and act
quickly in in the face of the franchise. I don't
know if you guys have seen the quotes that have
come down to the last hour from Dirt Nvinski basically saying,

(23:12):
you know, I was just disgusted, I think was the
quote by what I read, and you know this could uh,
this is a this is a very proud organization, and
obviously Dirk has become the face of the organization, and
I think it's very embarrassing to him and these players
who I should you know, as you read in the
SI article about the only ones who didn't come off

(23:34):
looking bad were the actual Mavericks players. But the rest
of your organization looks pretty awful right now. You can
follow them on Twitter at Matt Moseley, that is at
Matt Moseley, co host of the Doomsday podcast You Are
Looking Live podcast, and of course columnists for the Dallas
Morning News. Matt, thanks a bunch, as always, appreciate it.
We'll talk to you down the road. Thanks so much. Yeah, yeah,

(23:54):
I was hoping to hear a little more Rick Astley.
But okay, you guys, well we'll send you want to
send him out. Let let's send him out with some RICKA.
We got some form. Here we go. Thanks a bunch, Matt.
You've got a body saying Matt, there you go. You
put a little bit of positivity if they end by
bringing risk Rick Astley back and having a little bit
of levity. But I mean, you're talking about how this

(24:16):
is now spun into far more than like even a
night ago, as Mark Cuban protested his innocence, and you know,
being out of the st of the realm, and you
know the plausible deniability of hey, I hired people in
my company to do X, Y and Z and then
immediately taking two or three steps back and leaving the

(24:38):
door not only cracked, but kicking it open a little
bit so you can really see what's behind the curtain.
We really have some some bigger issues curious as to
how Dallas reacts, but also the NBA imperative that they
step in. You can't hand having internal investigation. This isn't
self reporting on how many meals someone took out of
the mess hall and come on, how how toned off

(25:01):
for the NBA. As this story is breaking today and
Cuban gives his statement about how we kept a guy
on who was a serial domestic abuser, the NBA announces
we're finding him six hundred grand for his tanking comments.
It's Vegas mystery. Let's talk about taking some more talking
about that. Really looking over here, do you not see
there's a bigger story. Who the bleep cares about tanking

(25:23):
at this point? There's a bigger story like, Oh, I
didn't get down to that on my to do list.
We just had the tanking stuff and now he got down.
You gotta make a ruling, I guess at some point
just seems like you you do that in the undercover
of night, kind of like two am when no other
news was breaking Twitter at how about a fresco The
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(25:46):
get tired of. And there's a reason why I never
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talk show here Talk Sports Radio Monday through front and
USA Women's hockey going for the goal. Tonight of the
Winter Olympics, USA versus Canada four seven left in the
first period. Canada and the United States of America are
tied zero zero or nil nil, as the squishy Europeans say.

(26:28):
NBA legend Dr J isn't really a doctor, and Dr
J has a radio show that's not really a radio show.
It's a pretend radio show. It's a podcast recorded on
a cassette player that he got for Christmas. And the
other day and Dr Jay's pretend radio show, Dallas Mavericks
owner Mark Cuban was a guest, and Cuba was so
giddy about being on his heroes pretend radio show that

(26:51):
Cuban admitted that the Dallas Mavericks were tanking games. And
as a result, today Mark Cuban find six hundred thousand
dollars by the NBA and two upsets in college basketball
so far Tonight six ranked Texas Tech upset by Oklahoma
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Mike like that. That's an awards? Is that the casting award? Yes?
Would you say? Award winning update aiker? Tom Looney? Is
that all? I was a three time Pop Warner All
Star and I have trophies for each one of those,
A two time twice in Pop Warner. We were undefeated
the Almira Heights Mason's so I won those awards and
m v P one of those championship games. And when

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I was a senior in high school, got an acting trophy. Oh,
the Acting Participation Trophy was it was it was an actor.
It was a theater award from the Elmira Little Theater
Full of Drama Myra Little Theater. Thank you, Mr Loing.
I like that. Hey got a great stuff from there. Hey.
I won Best Actor at Summer Camp BAC in ninety nine.
I mean, I don't want to tell you I was
best Actor. Were the Mets were on top of the world. No, no, no,

(28:19):
I was the bad guy. I was the bad camp counselor. Yeah,
who was? And everybody wanted to be the good guy,
and then they said, no, you'd be great as the
bad guy. I'm like, all right, so I was the
bad the better role always is. And next hour, we're
gonna talk about going to camp. Yes there's I'm not
lying to you. There is a Friday the thirteenth camp
that is coming up in the next couple of weeks.

(28:41):
I love that little an actual Friday, not Friday like
on Friday the thirteen. This is the Friday the thirteenth movie.
There's going to be a camp you can go to.
It sounds like it sounds like either the best camp
in the world or the worst camp in the world. Well,
go to Friday the thirteenth. Up, what's gonna happen. I'm
gonna chase play a guy in a hockey mask and

(29:02):
all kinds of knives, people paying a hundred bucks a
pop to go do that come Halloween time. We can't
get into fetish stuff, Okay, we can't. We were just
gonna do the story. Okay, you're gonna do this story
little early for that. But I could do this story
every day. I could do this story of Rick Pettino

(29:24):
playing the victim every single day It was a day
ago that the n c A stripped Louisville of their
two thousand and thirteen national championship because of all kinds
of violations, mainly involving prostitutes on campus, entertaining recruits and players.
Remember just the middle of a series of infractions, violations,

(29:45):
and and and bad play at Louisville. Today, Rick Pettino
had an appearance during a news conference at a law
firm in Manhattan. He said it was unjust for the
n c A to rule the Cardinals had to take
down their national chance being hip banner, and he went
on to say, listen, I understand that things happen with
people I hired, and I'm responsible, and I take responsibility,

(30:08):
except I'm not really taking responsibility. What the n c
double A did, this committee did hurts, and it takes
time to get over that hurt. I do really think
it's unjust. But again, I fully take ownership to the
people I hire. That's my favorite. I take ownership. Wait, wait,
wait for the people I hired. Because of course I

(30:31):
knew nothing that was going on. I knew nothing about
Adidas on campus and and and all these players that
have deals going to the NBA getting to an apparel company. You. Meanwhile,
Adidas has given him all kinds of money over the
course of his career. No, no, no, I knew nothing
about all of these parties that were going on on campus.
I I knew nothing. I'm taking responsibility for the people

(30:55):
I hired who were responsible for making this happen. Body
plays them, I mean everybody in their family. You always
have You always have one person. I'll say to you
right now and you'll think of it, you, Mike Carmen,
And when you're listening, who's the one person your family
that always plays the victim? And right away you know, oh,
I know who that is. I know, right away, name

(31:16):
comes the top of your head. That's the Rick Pettino
of your family. Everything. This is not my fault. I
didn't know anything. Mark Cuban trying to play the whole. Hey,
I'm just the owner, and I didn't know a lot
of this was going on, even though I did. Rick
Pettino does that all the time, all the time. He
goes from I am just the basketball coach now when
he was the basketball coach, I'm just the I. I

(31:39):
can't I can't be expected to know all of this
Now there is plausible deniability because it doesn't work where
you know, if you think Rick Pettino was in the
room saying, hey, make sure we get those prostitutes into
Billy Minardi Hall. So there they make sure they get
there at eight o'clock, all right, because Bowen's gonna be
there and some other good you know, you get those
pros there at eight, we're really good. No. But if

(31:59):
he but he puts it in in the Billy Minardie Hall,
then he gets to go in front of the media
and say would I ever do anything in Billy Minarty Hall?
Right right, So he's also built in another But he's
not the guy in the meeting saying that he drawing.
He's the one saying, hey, take care of these recruits

(32:19):
and make sure something good, oh all right, like something
like prostitutes. Hey, I don't know anything about that, but
if that you know whatever. I mean. That's the plausible
deniability that coaches have because they don't. You know, it's like, look,
you have to insulate me a little bit from things.
You know. I can't be the white can't planning. He's

(32:40):
not on a website going let's see hot legs dot com.
How about let's get Amber and Destiny and Amborette and
let's get creativity really waned and quickly, and let's get
marry Anne and let's get you know, I mean, you
know he's not doing that well. Then out of this though,

(33:04):
did a few of the players partaking parties they didn't organize, Yes,
yes they did, but that had nothing to do with
extra benefit, That had nothing to do with helping their
eligibility or performance and winning that championship. Those parties did
not enhance our player's ability to win a national championship
or go to a final four. But it got him
in the building, you jackass. I know, like that doesn't matter.

(33:26):
They would have come here if if they there was
no hookers, they would have gone to North Carolina instead.
I mean, and and Rick Pettino was also trying to say, yeah,
these happened, but I mean not bad enough to take
a championship away. I mean not that it's just part
of the overall experience. And that's like saying that that's like,
you know, well, what this guy did was bad, but
not bad to put him in jail. But he committed crimes, Yeah,

(33:46):
but they're not crimes like to go to jail crimes.
They're they're different crimes or what crimes? Are? They not
crimes that you know Merritt going to jail. That's really
the philosophy. Rick Pettino has two things. I want to
I love that he still has to get in the
folks in a legal environment, because that's where it's been
every time there's been a statement made related to these

(34:06):
these charges along the way, uh too. After he was
finished with his statements and they finished and put the
violins away, did anybody ask him if he's getting his
tattoo removed? No? No, oh, maybe they make him get
the tattoo removed. Maybe take that tattoo, tattoo vacating the tattoo.
I like the how you think might come on twitter at?

(34:26):
How about a fresca? On twitter at? How about a fresco?
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon. We have more
on Rick Pettino, but right now we have a we
have a fog horn. Apparently there's a boat coming into
the harbor. That's Pink Chase. Why I'm gonna think of
an old Miami Vice episode now now I'm thinking about
like the Wire when they would we have a power

(34:47):
play goal the United States on board. Hillary Night her
second goal of the tournament on the power play with
twenty five seconds to go in the first period. Gold
medal game has put the United States on top of
Canada one to nothing. So maybe we could get a

(35:08):
good result tonight after that, maybe already better than the shootout.
We'll keep you posted, but coming up next, an eye
opening story out of the NBA today. One of the
best players in the league looks like he may not
play for quite a long time, and his coach doesn't
seem too broken up about it. It's next on Fox.

(35:29):
But again, I fully take ownership to the people I
hire and t J. The boys are back in town,
but Kauai Leonard apparently not with Thinn Lissie t J
alright Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon live from the Geico Studios, and this Kauai Leonard

(35:56):
story out of the NBA is bizarre. I will get
back and more in the Mark Cuban situation coming up
a little bit, but well, a couple of weeks ago,
it was how injured is he? And how long will
it be? Is there? A bit of acrimony and slap
fighting and people kind of pushed it to the side,
saying it's the Spurs. That's not the way this works. No,

(36:17):
Kauai Leonards played nine games all year. He's had a
mysterious quad injury. And mysterious because Gregg Popovitch has said
on many occasions, I don't know how bad it is.
You gotta ask him. We don't know. We can't find
anything wrong, and nobody knows why Kauai Leonard is not
back with the San Antonio Spurs. But because at San
Antonio and we have Lebron in the war Here's and

(36:37):
everybody else in the rockets to talk about. This is
kind of falling under the radar until tonight because with
no return in sight for Kauai Leonard, Gregg Popovitch said
today he doesn't expect to see him the rest of
the season. We've got to move on, you know, realizing

(37:02):
this is who we are, so who we have, this
is gonna play and you know, wishing and hope and
doesn't do anybody any good. Uh, You've got to do
a weekend to be the best team possible as the
season winds it out. Leonard had been working out, but
it's unsure why he's not playing. This is not one
of those cut and dried. This guy's heard he's not

(37:24):
coming back. Well he went on, I went away and
saw in a second opinion, he's going to see specialists
and really just pushing himself away from the team. The
fact that Greg pop Fitch comes out and says we
don't expect to have him for the rest of the season.
He's twenty six years old and with the Spurs he
was one of the end and still is one of

(37:45):
the NBA's most dominant players. Now, I firmly believe you
get him away from the Spurs, not that he's gonna
be just another guy, but he's not gonna be as
good because when you take guys away from teams, he
fits in with the system. And really, how great is
he when the Spurs are still third in the Western
Conference without him, No, they're not fort two and eleven,

(38:06):
but they're still in third place and they're still you know,
double digit games over five hundreds, So you can't really say,
boy Kawhi Leonard how it's the same thing you could
say with Steph Curry. Take him away from Golden State.
Gold State would sell the same record they have. They
still win this many games. They still be at this point.
When you find players to fit a system, it works
for you. But Kawhi Leonards, certainly, I would say, right now,

(38:28):
if you said to me, after this season, what are
the odds Kawhi Leonard is still a San Antonio Spur,
I would say less than because there's too much smoke
for there not to be something going on. I mean,
there's two nobody knows why he's hurt. I'm having second
third opinions. He's getting opinions on doctors away from the team.

(38:49):
He's it's almost like he's now Derrick Rose ten years later,
where so many things happened with Derrick Rose. He didn't
come back. Remember when he was hurt. I'm gonna come
back when I can dunk off my left foot. It's
like random something something's happening, whether it's acrimony between him
and the Spurs, whatever, there's some kind of craziness going on.

(39:10):
I would say less than fifty he's a San Antonio
Spur after this year, Well, they lost five of six,
three straight. As you got towards the break, you look
at what they've done overall. But again you go back
to early January. You had some of these reports about
some disharmony, some some breaks in what has always been

(39:32):
the impenetrable, much much like when all of a sudden
we started getting reports out of the New England locker room,
and why some of that just let's just scratching your head.
Where suddenly nobody talked for years and then a dozen
or more sited. I still say it's a dozen or
more personalities from what or two people, But that's the
either here or there. But it's the same kind of thing.
San Antonio is always just kind of trudged on. Next

(39:54):
guy into the system to play, whether he's a star
or not. You don't hear much coming out of it.
You go from the quad injury early in the season
to the shoulder and then the quad acting up again,
and all opportunities to put him back on the active
roster he's declined. And so for Popovitch trying to get
his team ready for the second half, better to just

(40:17):
say it would be a surprise if he comes back,
rather than just leave that door open. Just all right,
this is our team. This is who we go into
the stretch run and into the playoffs with, and that
Kawhi Leonard is out of sight. Out of mind, and
for Popovitch that usually means you can be excised fairly
quickly thereafter. Well and for us, for him to say
the decision to come back rests with him, this tells

(40:39):
you we think he's healthy. We don't think that the
decision for whatever reason, he's not feeling it right now.
We think it's feast fine, We don't see anything wrong.
So this decision rests with him when he's comfortable. Read
between the lines there, because that's exactly what Greig Popovitch
is saying. Well, you go into start looking at contracts, right,

(41:00):
he's only on the books, uh for another year before
you start getting into you know, free agency and tags
and all that other fun. Fox Sports Radio The Jason
Smith Show with Mike car But I mean less than
he stays next year, you go come back. We get
back into the biggest story of the night. This is

(41:21):
Fox Sports Radio, Our two of the program, Jason and
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Hailey Irwin has tied it up for the Canadians you
weren't cheering on. It was a play the United States

(41:45):
would love to have back. It was she passed to herself.
It was a bad play defensively, allowing the Canadians to
gain deep into the zone. Uh Canadian player threw it
at the center of the net. Haley or skating in
just put her stick out in front and it knocks
in off her stick for a goal that ties the

(42:06):
gold medal game between the United States and Canadian women
at one apiece, although the United States now going on
the power play following a tripping call. So seventeen forty
two to go in the second period, Gold medal game,
United States Canada one one. But the USA is headed
to the power play. If they win the gold medal,
it makes up for the United States men's team getting

(42:27):
knocked out. Lift the puck, lift the puck and shootouts.
It makes up for them not winning last night. We're
gonna feel better about it. It's absolutely true. And men,
but the the Greatness was still laying ahead had they
been able to pull that that game out right, because
now you're talking about advancing and getting getting into the
medal round and pushing ahead instead. Here it's the finale

(42:50):
and we need all the medals we can get right
now as we get into the second week of competition, yeah,
I mean suddenly it's like, boy, we we're getting worked
by everybody. Before it was just Norway. Now it's like
Russia doesn't even have a flag and they have more.
We don't know how many guys are gonna fail drug tests.
I mean, you're your girl's husband went down. It was

(43:12):
a final, so I mean how many more are going
to fail drug tests? But the o A RS and
how many more skiing events can you postpone because the
weather that's gonna stop you know, MICHAELA and everybody else
from getting medals. You know. Oh, by the way, just
really quick. People train four years for the Olympics, and
now we're having people having to skip events because of

(43:35):
the weather, because of high winds. They're pushing skiing events
and Michaela shift fron. Other skiers have to skip because
they're skiing in different events. Uh, you know what, Olympics,
how about you build in a day each week where
you can make up those events so people aren't training
for four years ago. Yeah, you know, the winds are
too I sorry, we can't have sorry, we can't have
the event today, Well I gotta skip it. Oops. Sorry, Now,

(43:55):
I I know the closing ceremonies is a big deal,
but let's build in a day like Wimbledon builds in
a day on you know, hey, if we have to
have matches, that building one day a week for the
Olympics extended by two days, and say, okay, Friday is
our dead day, but this is in the day we'll
have some events. If stuff gets postponed because of high winds,

(44:18):
we can do what everybody can compete mom, and it's
a made for TV event. You've got lots of sponsorship
for those closing ceremonies. You've got you don't have the
closing ceremonies, But say, okay, the Olympics will start on
Thursday night and then we're gonna have events for the
first week and then the following Friday there are no event.
But if everything goes goes as schedule, Now what are

(44:39):
you doing, potato, You have a day off and all
of that that everybody thinks the Olympics. Oh, then they
all go get to go have sex. It's a free day,
you know. The you know, the saddest site after the
Olympics is gonna be whatever are thrown away and not
know they're gonna be souvenirs, gonna be sad and being

(45:02):
brought back. You can't no, no, no, you can't make
you can't have unused condoms of souvenir. You don't look
cool friends. Yeah, but but maybe you had plans for
each one of them. Yeah, and then it didn't happen. No, no, no,
post Olympics after thet any other kind of condom you got?
Have an Olympic cop Tell me this wasn't be the

(45:24):
big thing though. I don't think you could get well.
Could you get back to down the States and say, hey,
if I have an Olympic condom, can you and I
get busy happen? If it's an Olympic proof I was
in the Olympic village? What proof? Here's why condom that
I didn't you on the court and then the ship

(45:46):
love Greek freak again right now? United States in Canada
one one, just under fifteen minutes ago. In the second period,
United States did not score on their power play. The
biggest story in sports the last twenty four hours has
been what is going on with the Dallas Mavericks. Last night,
we brought you the breaking story about Sports Illustrated in

(46:06):
depth investigation into the culture surrounding the Mavericks. It was
described as an animal house type culture in which sexual
harassment behavior was allowed to breed and become an acceptable
part of what it was like. The two biggest stories
involving their former CEO, who, according to many people who

(46:28):
were interviewed for the story, was a serial sexual harasser
and there were stories in the in in the investigative
reports that it happened many times. One woman tells a
story about how he made her feel very uncomfortable, telling
her she was gonna get blanked over the weekend. These
are your plans for the weekend. And then we have
the story of Earl Sneed, who was now a former

(46:50):
employee of the Dallas Mavericks, but he worked for the
Mavericks from two thousand nine up until yesterday. Earl Sneed
was hired in two thousand and nine. He he became
a television host, a weekly television host for the Dallas
Mavericks and was a reporter from MAVs dot com. He
is now an ex employee after Sports Illustrated unearthed that
twice in the last few years, he has been involved

(47:14):
in violent sexual situations violent assaults, one involving a former
girlfriend in which she broke her wrist. When the police came,
he had fled the property. Mark Cuban knew about this
kept him on. There was another incident a couple of
years later in which he was dating another employee of

(47:37):
the Dallas Mavericks. She showed up one day with a
puffy face. She's She filed her report with Human Resources
that girls need hit her, and he still kept his job.
When Mark Cuban was reached for comment last night, he said,
this is all new to me. I'm hearing this for
the first time. Today he sung quite a different tune

(47:57):
in a statement to ESPN, saying I'm responsible for this.
I feel bad. This has to stop. He went on
to explain why someone like Earl Snead was allowed to
be around the organization and this wasn't I didn't know.
This is new to me. This was after the first incident.

(48:17):
We came to a conclusion that he needed to sign
an agreement that he wouldn't be around a female employee
un chaperoned. You had the second incident, which involved a
Dallas Mavericks employee, and still he was allowed to be
around the team. Not you're fired, but I'm keeping you

(48:39):
around the team. Cuban explained by saying, I didn't want
to let him go and just fire, and because he
would go someplace else and do it someplace else, so
I kept him here where I could keep an eye
on him. But the type of deal that if he
was to go somewhere else and this pattern of behavior continued,
it traces back to Dallas and gets out that way.

(49:00):
This way he can do as much damage control by
keeping that story in house. Is that part of the
thank you? Obviously we we know what kind of level
of toxicity ran through the the organization. You have the
statement from Dirk Davitsky that comes out tonight. It's tough,

(49:20):
it's disappointing, heartbreaking. I'm glad it's all coming out. I
was disgusted when I read the article, obviously, as everybody was.
I was shocked about some of the stuff, which means
you weren't shocked about all of this, so you knew
there was something. You've certainly been in the building nearly
two decades at this point for Dirk Navitski. But the
Cuban comments in terms of keeping sneet around as a

(49:45):
protective measure against him going and being employed elsewhere is
abhorrent and clearly flies in the face of everything he
tried to sell yesterday. So now it becomes the all right,
you've opened the door. How much more did you know?
How much more of this? If that's a high level
example of what was going on, what else is in

(50:06):
these human resources files that got buried? Take a step
back and think about this, because what I'm gonna say
has to happen. The NBA has to step in and say,
Mark Huban, we're removing you from day to day operations.
We're not calling it a suspension. We're removing you from
day to day operations while we investigate this culture that

(50:26):
has been rampant surrounding the Mavericks. Why because Mark Cuban
admitted that he now knew about this Earl's need stuff,
admitted that this was out there when a night ago
it was Hey, I don't know, I'm just hearing this
from the first time, just like you are so already
he is lied once. This is domestic violence. This is
not a garden variety offense of These are two guys

(50:51):
who got in a fistfight at practice, or this is
someone who was stealing stuff. Where this is in college,
where you know we had a violation because the guy
had a classed unformed. This is domestic violence, This is
sexual harassment. This is Mark Cuban making his first decision
to keep Earl Sneed around because I didn't want him
out there doing it someplace else. So I'm okay with

(51:13):
making all the women in my company feel at risk
and ill at ease, not creating a safe work environment
for the women where they work, which tells me what
Mark Cuban really thinks about women, what he really thinks
about women to say, I'm gonna keep this guy around.
He's gonna sign an agreement, he's not gonna be around
a woman. I want to keep him around. How do

(51:35):
I feel if I'm a woman and I work from
Mark you? How do I feel if I'm a woman
about Mark Cuban? Period? This guy's the biggest domestic violence
enabler there is. And think about this. If it was
a garden variety thing like stealing. Right, let's just say
that Earl's Need was caught stealing from the Mavericks, Mark
Cuban would have fired him right away, or somebody would
have fired him right away. He's walking out of an

(51:56):
equipment closet with basketballs and Novitski jerseys and tube socks.
Whatever it is, you get fired right If he got
in a fist fight with an employee, he would have
gotten fired. There's many things you would have done right away.
You're done. Especially you had to such incidents, you would
have gotten fired. But to domestic violence incidents which resulted

(52:16):
in injuries for women, and still he keeps his job.
You're telling me you're not the biggest domestic violence enabler
that we've seen. You wonder why women won't come forward.
This is why. Because this guy does this and he
still keeps his job, not once, but twice. This is
why women still say I'm afraid to come forward. And
I get it, because if you're in the Mavericks, why

(52:37):
would you come forward when you saw that's what happens,
That's what happens with both you Surad the GM and
now Earl sneed Usually, why would you ever come forward?
You would just say, you know, I just gotta quit
and find a job someplace else because I can't come
forward because these guys are allowed to stay. Mark human
is at the top of this, and he has admitted
that he was the guy making the decisions about earl sneed.

(52:58):
This is why the NBA needs to say we need
to take you out of things, because this is domestic violence.
You see how people react to it. This is a
much bigger deal than something else. I don't I could
give a crap about tanking. This is domestic violence. We'll
find a six hundred grand for tanking. We don't care.
This is something human. Well that Mark Cuban has shown
that I can't be trusted with the tanking part of

(53:19):
it all is just an absolute joke. You can watch
the on court results and know exactly what's going on
from an organizational standpoint, Uh, six thousand dollars isn't much.
And and really in the way this all comes down
seems like a desperate attempt on some level to just
have some other story, because, as we now know, the

(53:40):
timeline certainly shifting from our Cuban about what he knew,
when he knew it, and how this was coming down
in this Sports Illustrated article. So you have a an
organization where he's been set himself up as superman for
two decades, right, he knows all does all and if
you if you didn't I didn't know any better, you'd

(54:02):
believe he was the guy not only cleaning the facilities
at night, but he was taking tickets and doing everything else.
That's how he set him up as everything every man
of the the Mavericks, including all of the the famous
email marathon sessions with fans, knowing every detail, every complaint
that they have about the team. And so now when

(54:23):
you look at the the NBA, they the finding them
a draft pick is nothing because they really haven't done
much with many of them. Right, we look at we
look at this year's well that they gave him. You
got Dennis Smith. Okay, so that's a hit, we think,
at least from so far. But otherwise you've got one

(54:44):
or two hits over the period during which Mark Cuban
has owned the Mavericks. So that's really not much of
a It's also a human thing. This is not we're
cheating at Spygate, and hey we have an advantage on
the field. So here's a fun But that's the point
is real life. Yeah, all that stuff is is all fine.
You want to talk about how you hit the team
that way, you pull him out of the team, and

(55:05):
then we start going down as we talked about last night,
where you may have a real Donald Sterling situation as
you uncover the layers of how much this was really
going on? Right if you allowed your CEO, you Sarah
to to do this for so many years? What else
was was going on on people that weren't your quote
right hand man that slipped through the cracks? Twitter At

(55:29):
how about a fresca Mike at Swollen on The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmen Live from the Geico Studios.
We love more on Mark Cuban coming up, but we
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(55:52):
This Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my
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more on car insurance. All right, now, six minutes to
go in the second period, United States staring at a

(56:13):
to one deficit to Canada, and look you and I
are big hockey fans our whole life. We've been big
hockey fans. Everybody turns into a big hockey fan at
the Olympics. This you know now that the United States,
the men's are the men's team is out United States
and Canada is a huge ribvaly women's hockey. It's you know,

(56:33):
it would make up for the men's loss if the
United States would somehow win this. But I'll tell you what,
and one thing is for certain. It's never a good
sign when one team is shooting on goal and your
goalie is continually looking over her shoulder, his or her
shoulder to see where the puck is. Because that's going
on with the United States right now. Canada has been
carrying the play and every time there's a shot, I'm

(56:56):
looking over where's the puck, Where's the puck, where's the puck.
That's not a good sign. A little bit of confusion.
You've had the odd rushes. So certainly head on a swivel.
Gotta play here. As this second periods progressed, you know,
once again, the as we noted in yesterday's game, as
the men played the Czech Republic, attendance an issue even

(57:18):
here for a gold medal game, You've got a lot
of empty seats. It's amazing there, Like, I can't I
can't imagine what it's like to play in a game
filled with everything, right, Like the gold medal is on
the line. On last night, you have the shootout and
the entire world is watching and there's nobody in the stands. Yeah,
there's there's more people in the stands night, but still

(57:40):
sure there's great seats still available. Last night for the
United States and the Czech Republic, it was like a
club game. I mean there was there was like a
couple hundred people in the stands and it's like so
much pressure, such a big deal. But at their yeah,
and women's yeah right, oh United States second? Yeah, Okay, Like,
how do you still feel the stakes and how big
a deal it is when nobody's at the game. It's tough.

(58:03):
It doesn't give it that gravity. You do have Pierre
McGuire on the in the sidelines. Well, I like per McGuire,
but you know, it gives it a little bit of
gravitas as it were there, but certainly a better contested game.
I think we we've seen more action, uh, from post
to post than we did in the men's game a
night ago. Yes, well much more wide open, Yes, much

(58:25):
more wide open, and uh hopefully you know, look, Maddie
Rooney continues to uh, you know, make some big saves.
But I'll tell you looking behind her is not That's
never a good sign when the goalie is doing that.
It's like, yeah, I don't know where it is. I
don't know where it is. It's confidence, it's it's it's
not expecting, it's being confused. Uh, it's many things. So
the United States right now trailing Canada two to one.

(58:47):
They do have a power play though coming up. I
feel like every time we come back and power plays
here for the United States, you haven't scored, but as
a power play, run through those two minutes pretty fast,
and especially if there's you know, really no commercials and
you know, hockey game, let's go real fast, get him
over and get him in. It's been kind of a
heavy show so far with the Mark Cuban situation. We're

(59:07):
gonna get into the newest of hot take machines coming
up in a couple of minutes, because it's a seventy
five year old man who really just you know, can't
get out of his own way. But just because this
is so interesting, there is actually a Friday the Camp. Yes,

(59:28):
you can go to a Friday the thirteens camp. Um.
This is not a camp that just happens to be
on Friday the thirteenth. This is a camp that is
happening at the location of Camp Crystal Lake. It's in

(59:48):
New Jersey. This is where they filmed the original Friday
the thirteen, in the Kiny Mountains. It's the Warren Counties Camp.
No Bi Bosco wasn't a quarterback for Bosco. I was
gonna say so. It's a camp. It's actually owned by
the Boy Scouts. Not open to the public, but people

(01:00:10):
have been trying to visit for the last few years.
And now next month or actually on April thirteenth and fourteen,
Friday the thirteenth, Friday and Saturday, the camp is gonna open.
People can apply via lottery to go and spend the night,
the day and night at Friday the thirteenth Camp at

(01:00:30):
Camp Crystal Lake where they shot the movie He Did
Nothing Do You. Now. Here's the thing. This could either
be the greatest camp in the world or the worst
camp in the world. Like, hey, I'm here, like there's
gonna be We're gonna get to go see some place
where they shot some of the scenes. Here's where Kevin
Bacon got stabbed with all the darts whatever it was,
Sorry sport, you know. This is where Mrs moorehe showed

(01:00:51):
up everybody. Um, but also I believe was the same
site for Friday the Thirteenth, Part two, which is where
the first one where you met Jason. Uh, it would
be interesting. I got a feeling that if you fell
asleep at night, you'd be a little weirded out thinking
something's gonna happen to you. Uh. But you know, for
my money, it's really only worth it if you get

(01:01:12):
terrorized by a guy in a hockey mask with knives
and you don't know whether it's real or not. Like,
of course it's not real, but you think it might
be real, and people are in on it, but just
not the people in the camp, and you have to
band together to try to kill the guy with the machete. Now,
obviously when you get to the point where you may
kill him, we stop it. Go all right, everybody, all right,
this is just Tim. He's the guy that drove you

(01:01:33):
in in the bus. Look, Tim, take the mask off.
It's just him. But I mean I feel it's kind
of like a you know, they have Fantasy Camp for baseball,
and in Fantasy Camp for bad, Fantasy Camp for Friday.
You try to kill Jason and see if you can
do it before he kills you. Now that becomes a
whole figure that out. There's a whole other movie surviving
the game. Was was that about going after human? There's

(01:01:56):
no no, no, at least in this. I mean, you
can buy a bottle of Angry Mother Bottling Company Souvenir
Lake Water, Crystal Lake Lake Water. Yeah. Special guest Adrian King, Uh,
part of the from the first she was the arrow
in the first movie from the cast, will be there

(01:02:18):
as part of this UM tours. Uh the lottery process.
You're talking at a minimum on at thirty five bucks
a person to be pretty cheap, though they've been around since.
Adrian King got a She got a um, I think
she got it like some kind of knife to the
head in the sorry spoiler alert in the beginning of

(01:02:38):
the second one, which is kind of weird. I feel like,
you know, you survived the whole first movie, you get
a pass, but no, no, no no, we're starting the second
movie and you're done. Oh boy, thanks for that. I
pick I think that's fret because because Mrs Vorhees his
head was in the in the refrigerator. And then it
was a nice pick in the head. Yes, it really,
it all blends together. Once she got tonight, I kind

(01:03:01):
of tuned down. Well, I'm still in the second one here,
you know. Then three was trying to not conflate them,
and and how people die, I mean, it gets a
little tough. I don't have that chart memorize. I think
four was with the Cories. I think they were in
that corries. I think so. And then and then which
one was when he went to space? That was ten, right,
he fought Freddy Krueger. He went a space. Yeah, but

(01:03:23):
fri to the thirt if you could somehow do that.
You know you're gonna be terrorized by a guy with
with a machete and maybe it's like okay, it's a
plastic and he finds you, Oh I kills you. You're dead.
Uh great, and you're you're out, you know, and then
it's gets down to the final what you know whatever,
It's like paintball. You know, you gotta get you get
somebody with paintball are you're dead, you're out of the thing.

(01:03:45):
You know, you do somehow like that, but you do
with knives and paintball things coming off the knives. Well,
you know, now you're a tour operator. You've gone from
radio show host to part time singer to tour operators.
Here's how I do it. We get to do some
paintball fights. While it's got to be something like that, right,
I mean there's because then you could have if this

(01:04:06):
works out, there could be a Halloween fantasy camp. You
try to kill Michael Myers has gotta be a Freddy
Krueger fan. So what you're telling me is our next
move is do not buy up general property here in
southern California, to go to all the historic landmarks and
find the actual houses and in some cases prisons or
mausoleums or whatever that we're used in horror films, and

(01:04:28):
then start creating these type of experiences. There might be
some kind of market to be able to roll with this,
because I guarantee you Robert England would show up. Then
there's no question, Hey what do you want? What do
you pay me? This pays twenty dollars a day and
you get fed. Great, I'm in what don't we have
a bunch of people show up and start asking about
V looking at people. I'm not I'm not his up

(01:04:54):
on all the Friday as you. But I'm gonna give
you an obscure V reference and be proud of myself
just that he was in the movie that, just that
he was in the miniseries. No, no, no, you were
in the specificity of let's see this guy died this way,
and then eighteen minutes later the machete camere gonna bring

(01:05:15):
up the deadbeat? Why could bring up people who are dead?
Isn't that what you were doing? You were going chronologically
as to how people were defeated in the Friday movies.
People don't get defeated. I yield at the end. This
is not like you know in Black Panther when they're
fighting and you have you what do you do? The

(01:05:35):
hell is wrong with you? Hey, everybody's seen Black Panther.
I haven't seen it yet. Sorry about that. Oh sorry,
Jason Voorhies kills everybody at the end of Now if
that happens on that note. Coming up next, the hottest
of hot take machines is a seventy five year old guy.
You'll hear it, but first he's too soon for David Fizdale,

(01:05:58):
a guy who was never full of hot takes thank you,
because wait a minute, all his food is warmed up
cold to keep all the vitamins inside. It's Tom Loney
with what's Friending and Mr Ritz Crackers USA women's hockey
team going for the goal tonight at the Winter Olympus
USA versus Canada. Let me lost it incomes Augusta dropped

(01:06:19):
up to pull on a shoche scars from between the circles.
It's Marie phillippool In and it's to one team Canada.
Westwood One Radio Network providing us with the word pictures
thirty eight seconds left in the second period, with Canada
in front of the United States of America two to one.
The other day, on Dr Jay's pretend radio show, Mark

(01:06:42):
Cuba was on, and Cuba was so giddy about talking
to his childhood hero Dr J that Mark Cuban admitted
and Tallas Mavericks were taking games and so as a result,
Mark Cuban has been six hundred thousand dollars by the NBA.
San Antonio Spurst Our quiet letters legs are so tattered
from carrying the team on his back that he may

(01:07:03):
not play again this year for the San Antonio Spurs.
Coach Gregg Popovich agrees with me. I'll be surprised if
he returns this season. Yeah, I told you, gag. It's
out twenty five games in college basketball tonight to upset
alerts for you six rank Texas Tech goes down. They
were upset by Oklahoma mistake seventy nine seventy one and

(01:07:25):
technical difficulties for Clemson on rank. Virginia Tech upset fifteen,
rank Clemson eight. And now a guy who eats Ritz
crackers right in front of me even though he knows
they don't eat carves Jason Smith and a guy who
gave up green beans for lent Mike Harmont on Fox
Sports Radio. Someone's got to eat the Ritz crackers had
green kills earlier today, So I gotta go dependance. Oh

(01:07:48):
you you do? Thank you? Mr No sodium with my
green beans. We're live from the guy goes studios where
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car insurance. More Info is a Geico dot com. Well,
the United States and Canada will go to the third
period Canada with a two to one lead over the
US and one team could be twenty minutes from a

(01:08:13):
gold medal in women's hockey. Will keep you posted. But
Bill Polian is a guy that's kind of own the
last forty eight hours in the National Football League. That
is how you feel. A content void. Former Colts GM
now an analyst for ESPN, has apparently decided, you know what,

(01:08:35):
the young people like our hot takes. I've I've read
this on the internet. It's a thing. So I'm gonna
now give you hot takes on players who could be
drafted and were drafted in the National Football League this
week on ESPN. It was earlier this week where he
talked about Lamar Jackson and that the Louisville quarterback and
Heisman Trophy winner should change positions because well, he's too short.

(01:09:00):
I think wide receiver short and a little bit slight
and and clearly clearly not the thrower that the other
guys are. He's the accuracy isn't there. So I would say,
don't wait to make that change. Don't be like the
kid from Ohio State and so short being six three

(01:09:20):
Lamar Jackson, but I could play, but he's short. For
a quarterback, but he could play wide receiver. I like
that part of it. Yeah, he's too short, will become
a wide receiver, but I thought he was too short?
Is he? I mean, is is he Danny Amondola? Is
you know? Is is he gonna be one of those?
I mean, seriously, we're talking about here. When we're getting
into quarterbacks, most guys are what six three, six four,

(01:09:41):
and then you have what you want, a bunch of
brock oswallad. He's gotta be six seven, six eight? Is that?
Is that what you're trying to compare him to? I mean,
you look at Lamar Jackson with the body of work
he put up. Are there things that all of these
quarterbacks need to clean up along the way? Sure, but
the the old standby becomes hey, think about changing positions? Now,

(01:10:04):
that's that's the take from a seventy five year old
man that you would hear, you know, because that's what
he thought in five. Here's an athletic black quarterback. Let's
turn him into another position because I don't think he
can play quarterback in the NFL. I mean, really, that's
really where that's that's a take from nineteen eight five,
nineteen nineteen nineteen eighty. That's really a take from five. Yeah, no,

(01:10:26):
he can't. Let's change his position. Oh really, I mean
Terrell Pryor was never a good quarterback. Joel Pryor was
never a really good college quarterback. He could never throw
the ball well. He could run a little bit, and
he could he could glide. He he ran like Dion
Sanders did change positions and he was good. But he
came up as a quarterback. He couldn't make it. Okay,
now we're gonna move him to another position. Lamar Jackson

(01:10:47):
is so much of a better quarterback than Terrell Prior
was so much better. He he had a better year
than Josh Allen, and he threw for two thousand more yards,
and Josh Allen did an account for twenty more touchdowns,
and he was more accurate throwing passes. But Josh Allen
is still the number one guy. Lamar Jackson's got a
change position. I like that. That's pretty funny. I like

(01:11:10):
that you gotta fit the old scouting combined suit and
the T shirt and underwear Olympics. But that's not the
only take the Bill Polly has had. Because today he
went after the Cleveland Browns went on draft night three
years ago, he called and x X told for the
Browns to draft Johnny Manzel. Today, a little bit of

(01:11:34):
revisionist history when it comes to the Browns and Johnny Manziel.
From Bill Polian on ESPN, Cleveland got what they deserved.
When people did their homework on Johnny Manzel, as everybody
will on Baker Mayfield. They were well aware that Johnny
had problems that might affect his playing in the National
Football League, and they Cleveland ignored them. And so they

(01:11:57):
got what they deserved. Okay, they got what they deserve.
You said on draft night, go get him. Now, they
got what they deserve. Johnny Manziel has magic. Yes, if
you're the Browns draft room, you owe it to the
fans to consider taking him at number four, you know.
And that's that's okay, that's revisionist history. And it's also

(01:12:17):
implying the Browns did something bad. You got what you deserved. Uh.
And I'm offended if I'm Baker Mayfield and I'm being
compared to Johnny Manzel. Johnny Manzel is a guy who
has found himself out of the National Football League. Is
a big partier, He's a big drinker, had his own
domestic situations, went to a point where he was making

(01:12:38):
money for autographs and has found himself out of the
NFL because of his behavior, and now he's back in.
He had the big admission last week. He's by polar
he needs help. But Johnny Manziel was his own worst
enemy in being out of the National Football League. Baker
Mayfield white because he grabbed his crotch during the game,
So he's Johnny Manziel. I'm insulted if I'm Baker Mayfield.

(01:12:59):
I tell Bill Polian, you know you don't know me.
You're you're gonna You're really gonna compare me to him.
That's completely out of the realm of what's acceptable. And
now apparently we have sirens going off in the studio.
We were talking about the hot takes of Bill Polian.
The way did you get so hot? The fire alarm
is going off. The hot take machine is certainly there.

(01:13:20):
That's what's happening to try to talk about whoa we
got that? Maybe that's a thing now when we talk
about something that's too much of a hot take, the
sirens go off. You're listening, okay, you can hear him. Listen, Listen,
yeah to the banker. Mayfield point. I mean we do
have him getting drunk and being caught. I mean, you

(01:13:41):
do have that institure that becomes extrapolates and just becomes
a much bigger issue. But you can't says I mean,
there's a thousand things that happened with Johnny Manzel exactly,
but it becomes the Hot Take Theater as we get
ready for the combine and everything else. To throw that
into the hopper, A conducting radio show with the with

(01:14:02):
the fire alarm going off because the Hot Take was
just so hot. It was so hot. Coming up next
a story I never get tired of. No, it's not
Friday the thirteenth Camp, it's something even better Fox Well,
it's it's turned from Hot Take theater fire alarms into

(01:14:29):
a disco. Those sticks are out. If you were listening
to the show a few minutes ago, you know that
the fire alarm went off in our studio because you
could hear it. We've taken care of the alarm, but
the lights are still blinking. So now I feel like
it's a disco here. We are drink specials two for one.

(01:14:50):
Jake and Olwood at the bar special long two shots,
making their way through the crowd, and here comes a
special on gold Schlagger. That's what I'm expecting. How many
clubs were you in where that was the announcement? I

(01:15:12):
think you were just tying. No, there were some there
were some bars where gold schlager. I remember having shots
of gold Schlager. I'm not saying you didn't. I just
don't know that I ever heard of DJ going over
the top and telling you, hey, I'm special. Now, it
depends whatever. They have an extra stuff down in the butt. Listen,
we got those bottles of gold Slager collecting dust. Hey,
we'll have a special trade. We'll get rid of all

(01:15:35):
of them, all right, Fine, put them in, getting set
to start the third period. Canada leads the United States
gold medal game in women's hockey two to one, Canada
taking a lead in the second period. We'll have more
on the Mark Cuban story coming up in fifteen minutes
because Dirk Novitsky has weighed in and oh boy, uh

(01:15:56):
did he es mentioning things to say following what's going
on with the Dallas Mavericks. But Rick Pettino once again
has decided to let everybody know I have done nothing wrong.
Rick Pettino, who throughout his career has been no stranger

(01:16:17):
to all kinds of scandal, two sex scandals, scandal involving
players coming in and being pushed to Adidas and to
different marketing companies and losing his job at Louisville because
of it. Yesterday, the n c A stripped Louisville of
their two thousand and thirteen and championship because of ostensibly

(01:16:41):
hookers being brought to campus to entertain players and recruits. Patino,
of course, lost his job a few months ago because
of the sweep study and story that went on about
how assistant coaches at different schools were put in charge
of getting recruits, steering them towards certain apparel, cup beanies
and people who could be their agents in the NBA.

(01:17:04):
But the stripping of the process, the stripping of the title,
is what is the big story right now. I watched
some Louisville players way in Luke Hancock, who was the
MOP of the Final four, is that I think about
winning that game every day of my life, and now
I didn't do anything wrong, and it's it's a stained

(01:17:24):
for me. And look, there's many people I feel bad
for that that weren't caught up in this, and maybe
Luke Hancock was, maybe he wasn't, But there's certainly there's
enough innocent people in it. Rick Pottino is not one
of them. Rick Pettino loves to do the thing he
does better than anybody else is to play the MARTYRCRD.
I'm the mark. This is done and I've had no

(01:17:45):
idea this was going on. He has never taken responsibility
for any scandal, anything that's gone on. When this scatal
first came out. One guy knows the truth, Andre mcgheey,
one guy. No. I think a lot of people know
because those parties are a lot of people were at
him coach. A lot of people knows, so don't tell me.
One person knows. But today in Manhattan at a law firm,

(01:18:08):
he tried to take responsibility for what happened with Louisville
and still couldn't find a way to do it. Listen
for the pause before he lets himself off the hook.
What the n C double A did this committee did hurts.
It takes time to get over that hurt. I do
really think it's unjust, but again, I fully take ownership

(01:18:32):
to the people I hire wasn't really that well, that
was a little bit. There was a pause where he says,
I fully take responsibility for the people I hired. In
other words, it's not my fault once they got on campus.
I hired these, put them into a role, and told
them what they needed to do, and however they got

(01:18:53):
that job. John, I have no knowledge. He just can't
take respect. He's like a kid. He's like a kid,
and you can say say you didn't know, I didn't
do it. What happened was the reason the cigarette was
in my bag was because Jeanette had it and she
found it and it was she thought it was funny,
so she put it my bag as a joke. And
I'm like, no, just just take responsibility, or at the

(01:19:15):
very least, don't insult my intelligence with you know, it's
really not my fault because that's what he's doing. I
take responsibility for the people I hired. In other words,
you know, you can only blame me so much because
it's the people I hired who did this without my
knowledge at all. Just name Andre McGee and be done
with him. Just say I I hired him, he did

(01:19:36):
this all that I have no knowledge. Dropped the microphone
and walk away instead of trying to back yourself out
of the situation. As he did. He went on to
talk about, hey, did a few players were taking parties
they didn't organize. Yeah, sure they did. Those parties did
not enhance our players ability to win a national championship
or go to a final floor final four and put

(01:19:58):
them in the building and kept them in the building.
Part of the recruiting process, right, that and the shoe
deals and all these other things all piled together to
put a winning team on the court. Uh, he's not
one time do I feel like he's being honest and
genuine and for look, let's let's be honest. There's not

(01:20:20):
for one second do I believe he's on a computer
going let's make sure we get the prostitutes into Billy
Minardi Hall. You know, I like Amber, I like Jessica,
I like Mary Anne. I like that. You know he's
not doing that. But is he directing people to do
things so we can have plausible And of course that's
what's happening. Of course, every coach has to have plausible deniability.
What are we doing to make sure violations occur everywhere?

(01:20:43):
And how well your coaches insulated that you know, depends
on on how well your people are doing what they're doing.
But you can't tell me, Rick Pettina, I just didn't know.
This is all. I'm the head basketball coach. I'm the
most powerful man on campus, probably the second most powerful
person in the state besides John Calipari, and still maybe
even more so because I want to have one a title.

(01:21:05):
But now, but think all these things are going on
and I don't know. Everybody's going above my head and
they're just doing it going ah, He's just the coach
and whatever. We don't even need to involve just take
care of it. The man doesn't need to know. Let
let him he Let him sit in his office and
and do his thing, and we'll we'll just make this
all work. It's any chance, Kendrick said, the old man
is wrong. But it's like all of these stories on

(01:21:25):
college campuses. These are the highest paid individuals in state
after state and run campuses, and to think that all
of these things happen without their knowledge just bewilders me.
That it just doesn't pass the test. And for this,
he's still trying to claim I did nothing wrong, like
he's gonna get hired by someone else tomorrow is like, hey,
he said he didn't do anything wrong. It's all on

(01:21:47):
McGhee and if it was one infraction, maybe you'll let
it slide. They're piling up. It's a backlog Twitter and
how about a fresco The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon coming up next. Will you hear what Novitski had
to say with what's going on with the MAVs? Fox
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just got absolutely drilled in front of the Canadian net.
No penalty is called United States still trails Canada two

(01:22:53):
to one gold medal game women's ice hockey, still thirteen
minutes to go in the third period, and the United
States has been buzzing for the last couple of minutes
but still has not dented twine yet, So still down
to one just under thirteen minutes to go. Is that
part of the dock emrate sound and flipped it? Lost it,

(01:23:16):
served it. No, I almost shufled it. I almost went overman,
put the biscuit in the basket between in betwixt the
legs of the goalie. Know, almost did a little overman
there for you, but not not close enough though. But yeah,
that that hit in front of the net started it
started a buzzing, uh and obviously ruled down the ice

(01:23:38):
that it was two players heading for the puck. But
that was a collision, pool and you're you're glad to
see that everybody got up and kept moving because there
was a moment uh in the initial contact that it
looked pretty up. Yeah, and I don't know how she well,
she got an elbow to the head. I mean, Decker
got an elbow to the face. And pooling doesn't get
called for a penalty. It's a huge deal, especially because

(01:23:59):
you know, checking is not really allowed. There's a there's
a form of it, but you can't check like you do.
And you know in the NHL, in the Olympics it's
it's not as allowed, and that's something. It's in front
of the net, and I'm like, really, that's not that's
not a penalty a penalty. Oh man, that was not
saying the United States would have scored in the power play.

(01:24:20):
But boy, if that's it's gotta be a penalty, you
gotta have it, buddy. So anyway, again, just under twelve
minutes to go, Canada leads the United States two to one.
Dirk Novitsky has weighed in on the Dallas Mavericks scandal
that is now about twenty four hours old. A investigative

(01:24:42):
journalistic report done by Sports Illustrated, which was first revealed
last night, that alleges a culture of animal house behavior
with the Dallas Mavericks that includes many details of sexual
harassment and even domestic violence. A couple of employees by
the Mavericks have been accused of sexual harassment. One is

(01:25:06):
a former CEO who was then let go and then
went to under Armour, where he was then let go
after two months, and now you have the story of
Earl Snead, who was a now former employer employee of
the Dallas Mavericks Number one. He was a television host
and then was a reporter from MAVs dot com. Twice

(01:25:26):
we found out during his tenure with the Mavericks he
was accused of domestic violence situations, both times in which
a woman ended up injured. When this report first broke
last night, Mark Cuban said, this is kind of new
to me. I haven't really I'm kind of just processing this,
and you could tell he was kind of caught off

(01:25:46):
guard by it because today his response was a lot different.
It was this is my fault. I have to fix this,
and what happened is on me. And he went on
to explain in detail how he kept Earl sneed on
even after both of these domestic violence situations, going as
far to say we had him sign an agreement that

(01:26:09):
he wouldn't be alone with a woman without a chaperone
presence and that if he had to do it over again,
he would have fired him. But he wanted to keep
Earl Snead around because he was afraid he could go
someplace else and sexually harass or maybe injured women, showing
you that Mark Cuban is choosing right there to have

(01:26:29):
a not safe work environment for his own employees. Number one,
I mean it's pretty easy. If you have a guy
that's been accused domestic assault twice and there's police reports,
and Mark Cuban is admitting these stories happen. You had
this story happened two times, two times, and he admitted, yes,
I kept him on. You created a not safe work

(01:26:52):
environment for women in your company knowingly did it. Mark
Cuban is a domestic violence enabler and a sexual harras
aspent enabler. And the fact he kept him on. Look,
if he got caught stealing from the Mavericks, he would
have been fired. If he was caught, and if he
was fighting with other people he got in a fist

(01:27:13):
fight with one guy and then a fist fight another guy,
he would have been fired. But the fact that two
instants of domestic violence and he's kept on. You wonder
why women won't come forward, This is why, And this
is Mark Cuban enabling a guy to stay on with
a company when he has been accused and reports are sorry,
this is not like oh, we have to wait and
see what's like. No, this is stuff that was documented,

(01:27:35):
and still he kept him on. The NBA needs to
step in and say, Mark Cuban, you are relieved of
your duties running the Mavericks while we run an investigation.
This is the worst thing since Donald Sterling, and it's
sexual assault. This is not something we take lightly and
go yeah, yeah, I'll clean this up. This is a
very big deal. He should be removed from the team
while the NBA figures us out. You can't be seen

(01:27:55):
as going light on domestic violence. Well, you look at
the comments and how much it changes over a twenty
four hour period in the updated postings of today and
the statements to to ESPN. You had Sarah who was
investigated by the team. Uh earlier on remember Ross perro Jr.

(01:28:16):
When he was the the owner. Uh, there was an
investigation in as well, and that was quote handled and
he denied the allegations in a statement that he issued
his Sports illustrated from But from our Cuban who's been
such a hands on owner in every way, shape and
form and for many as we talked about a little

(01:28:39):
bit earlier in the show, when we were joined by
by Matt Moseley of the Dallas Morning News of you know,
to to the Superman kind of effect as as I
termed it the way he described it, If you know,
as Mark Cuban is hands on all the way around,
and in this case now it comes back as well,
if you were that hands on, then you knew that

(01:29:00):
there was a culture that had started, and certainly with
your CEO there were. There was a lot of money
made during the process. You get the All Star Game,
there a lot of growth, as many markets have for
the NBA, but certainly in Dallas and Mark Cuban has
been a rock star owner. And then his comments today
as related to sneed and keeping him on and not

(01:29:20):
allowing another team to experience the same type of behavior
that that they've seen and you're talking about trying to
rehabilitate or whatever terminology you'd use, it still falls flat
by keeping him in your institution where you've got a
lack of control. You've got we use that in college

(01:29:41):
all the time, but you certainly have it here where
you have multiple detailed accounts of women and other people
in the organ and men in the organization saying you know,
as you go to work on projects with these individuals,
to be careful and to watch yourself and about the reputations,

(01:30:01):
and that you decided that you could keep that in
the house and nobody could feel safe. You get you're
signing one offs of hey, I can't be alone in
a room. I mean, how is how is that you're
enabling any hrs to take place by saying these guys
can stick around. I mean that's why the end, the

(01:30:22):
NBA needs to step in. Well, there's some suggestion that
you know, hey, that he's really gonna work hard, and
the the internal investigation that doesn't work. I can't rust him.
He allowed all this happened four years. But this isn't
a third rate college recruiting violation of a guy skipping
a couple of eight o'clock classes, hanging out with you

(01:30:43):
because you never went to eight o'clock, but the idea
being you know, here, here's the different infractions, or or hey,
he took an extra couple of portions at mess Hall,
so he went over what his food budget should have been,
or whatever the other things you can get nailed for
a collegiate level. I mean, this this isn't one of
those slap on the wrists and the fact that it's

(01:31:04):
conflated today with the tanking topic is just abhorrent on
a whole other level because the the tanking comments. We
all know what's happening. We watched the product on the court.
So saying hey, here's six grand is nothing. I mean
want it's nothing to the Cubans bank account. But on
the large scale, is it's stopping anybody from continuing to

(01:31:27):
try to lose or or be less competitive? No, No,
that's the way the system is set up. That's gonna
keep going and this is not going to be the
impetus to change it. Now, you do have the NBA
that Adam Silver and his group, they are now charged
with something substantive. This isn't changing the playoff seeding anymore.
This is a very real issue for those owners and

(01:31:49):
for the commissioner, and for the growth of the league
and how they respond in the wake of the hashtag
me too, and how that is perceived across and their
product is perceived across the global landscape. Here's Dirk Novitsky,
Maverick Star who weighed in This is brand New, talking

(01:32:09):
about this situation with the Mavericks and what's going to
happen next, that's uh, very disappointing. It's it's heartbreaking. I'm
glad it's uh. It's all coming out. I was discussed
when I read the article obviously, as as everybody was.
I think Mark uh is trying to step up and

(01:32:30):
leave this franchise in the right direction, and that is
hiring investigators, finding out all the little details that that
we have to know as a franchise, what really was
going on. Everything. Dirk Novitsky said, there was correct, It
was great, except I get that your friends with Mark Cuban.

(01:32:51):
He's done a lot for you. You have enjoyed a
great career. You have been very loyal to him. I
get that part of it. However, Mark, you been as
the guy that is responsible for this. He has allowed
this to happen. He allowed all of this, he said.
I am responsible. I allowed domestic violence to happen with
the Dallas Mavericks. You can't say, oh, Mark's gonna do

(01:33:15):
it for now. This is where there's certain times when
a friend of yours does something, the best thing to
say is nothing, right, Like if if a friend of
mine was accused of something really bad, like a guy
that I've known for like and Dirk spent. You look,
he's been with Mark Huban now his entire career. If
he did something really bad and someone asked me about it,

(01:33:36):
would I feel bad because I've been friends with this
guy and I thought I knew him for a long time. Yeah,
I'd feel bad. But at the same time, I couldn't
ignore what he did, and there's no way if you say,
how do you feel, I would say, well, this guy's
he's gonna turn things around. He know he did something
really really bad. If a friend of mine I found out,
but you know, after twenty years was enabling sexual harassment

(01:33:58):
and potential domestic violence to happen at work, how could
I be friends with them? I would simply say, yeah,
this is an awful situation, and I'm not I'm not
gonna defend I'm not gonna seeing this defending him. I
don't get why people are pushing this narrative and they
think like if they say it will happen, that Mark
Cuban is going to be the guy to lead the
Mavericks out of this. Now. I get why he's doing

(01:34:19):
it because he thinks, well, if I seem like I'm
leading this the NBA, I can misdirect him, and they
won't suspend me when they need to come in and say, dude,
you are the guy that is responsible for this, so
now we have to get rid of you. I can
see why he's doing it, but other people saying, yeah,
Mark's the guy, Dirk. You gotta read the room, you
gotta see what's going on and realize this is what's happening.

(01:34:40):
I would hope that maybe he didn't read it and
saw the report and didn't say Mark human going yeah,
this guy twice we were able to uh catch him,
and still we kept them around and kept around and
made a non safe work environment. That's where you go. Yeah,
I don't have a comment on that part of it.
Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle Common commented today for the first
time since this report it was published, saying, what I

(01:35:02):
can tell you is there's gonna be a through investigation
into this from an outside group led by two people
at the top of the profession. Investigation will be conducted
by Crew Toy Law, a New York firm, a man
named Evanty, former prosecutor in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office
and then and Milgram whose uh law practice focuses on

(01:35:23):
a white collar crime government investigations. That's the lead investigation
in investigator in consulting. They're gonna talk to everybody in
this Carlisle again, They're gonna talk to everybody in the organization.
They're gonna find out how, the why, and the best
way to resolve this. An outside party was brought in
so there'd be no local influence or anything like that.
And these people are the best of the best. Their

(01:35:44):
findings then go to Cuban and Silver and the Mavericks
will abide by whatever recommendations are made. And here here's
the key sentence, again falling in line with what Dirk
Davitsky said. I'll tell you that when it comes to
anything involving the Mavericks, Mark Cuban is a believer in
extreme ownership, extreme accountability. These highly mode av did to
get this resolved and an expeditious but thorough fashion. No
steps will be skipped. And and that's good, that's good

(01:36:08):
corporate backing speak. Now it's time for action and to
see what this investigation leads. And the best thing for
all members of the Mavericks, from Mark Cuban on down
is just get out of the way Fox Sports Radio,
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(01:36:50):
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(01:37:11):
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United States and Canada will go to overtime following the
United States goal on a breakaway late in the third period,

(01:39:27):
they are tied at two a piece. And now I'm
as nervous as I was last night going to the
shootout for the United States. Get all twitchy again. Look, look,
I love hockey. And and then you went and you
you blamed all of us for all the badges's playing

(01:39:47):
over time, the anemic effort in the shootout. You went
and yelled at Robert Gara. You called tie shirt names
that are unprinted. But I always do that. These were
a little more extre They were said with a little
more venom. No, no, no, well this is okay. I
wouldn't say I'm as nervous because that was a shoot

(01:40:10):
at we were going to. I wasn't as nervous because
now we're going to overtime and there's a bit of
a break now before we start overtime. Uh that this
is what kind of way Now, certainly, there's nothing like
overtime hockey in the world. Every if you've not, if
you're not a hockey fan right now, you can become
one because if you watch this overtime first goal wins.

(01:40:34):
This is at first goal wins the gold medal in
hockey and women's hockey United States Canada is a very
big deal, just like Women's World Cup United States in
China was a very big deal of very big rivalry.
United States Sweden a very big rivalry. People got up
for that and watched it every time. There are no
such things as innocent plays. I mean it overtime in

(01:40:57):
the NFL, there are innocent plays. All it first down,
here's a run up the middle. It's gonna get somewhere
between two and five yards everything. Every dump in someone
could slip fall, skate in front. Every you're not get
just get it out, Just get it out, Just get
it out. Every shot you are just on pins and
needles for There is nothing like overtime hockey in the world.

(01:41:19):
In the world. I feel like I should get back
into a character of my younger self in the three
levels of the old Chicago Stadium, when I wasn't looking
around at my feet to make sure a rat wasn't
about to sting me. You get stung by rats, That's
what kind of rats are these like rats that were

(01:41:41):
bitten by radioactive spiders turn into rat finally used in
my house. Rats don't sting you the rats tails that sting,
you know, but that's a rat. Yeah, you don't get
stung by a rat. They don't sting you does if
it sound better than rats? Don't know rats don't it
sounds better. No, it doesn't. It does not sound better.
It sounds like it's got some you know, it sounds

(01:42:02):
like you don't know what what animals and rats do?
I get stung by a rat? What happened? I got?
You know, I thought it was kind of funny. I
don't know if it was. It was a fun term.
And now I know all you're doing to say I'm
better than you, you know, looking down your nose. No,
not get stung by dare you? No, you don't get
stung by a rat. You just don't. You're mixing your

(01:42:23):
metaphors and not knowing what animals do. Very well aware
they bite you. I'm very well aware of what a
rat unless it's a rat that has like you know,
those those those you're really filibus. They actually to get
back on the ice, but say something of substance. Right now, County,

(01:42:43):
United States tied at two a piece uh game time
goal late in the third period. There may be no
stranger story in the NBA than what is going on
right now with Kawhi Leonard, the Spurs star now looks
like he won't come back for the rest of this
Season's had a quad injury that has been very mysterious.

(01:43:05):
Now up until today, it's just been kind of a
curious story because, okay, the Spurs no Kauai Leonard, They're
still in third place, which shows you that even without
Kauai Leonard, is he really the great m VP candidate
people say he is because look at the system Greg
Poppa just put in place. He finds players that fit
his system. This is why Steph Curry is a system quarterback.
Can br I'll do my interview anytime you're ready. But

(01:43:28):
you know, we've had Lebron and Hardening, the Warriors and
Katie and all kinds of crazyest stuff to to get to.
So the Kawhi Leonard thing is it's kind of been heads. Okay, well,
he's injured. There's been a shroud of mystery surrounding this injury,
and today Gregg Popovitch lets it slip that he's not

(01:43:50):
expecting Kauai Leonard back for the rest of the season.
We got to move on, you know, realize you this
is who we are, tost who we have. This is
gonna play and you know, wishing and hope and doesn't
do anybody any good. Uh, you've got to do a

(01:44:10):
weekend to be the best team possible, as he sees
and one you know, Uh, I'll be surprised if he
returns this season. I'd be surprised if he returns this season.
And what he said even further makes it seem like
a divorce between Kauai Leonard and the Spurs could happen.

(01:44:33):
We have more on that story coming up in one minute. Nix.
You know, I Leonard to the Knicks, but first a
guy who I would never divorce because he would always
make sure I would eat right and be healthy. Tom
Loony about that USA women's hockey team going for the
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(01:44:56):
who fires it right back in? The Americans have a
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(01:45:19):
the sound of the Vegas Golden Knight's hockey horn. They
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Vegas has the best record in the National Hockey League.
Also tonight, black Hawks filipbuster of the Senators three to two.
Ducks danced on the Stars to nothing. A gaglet Top
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(01:45:43):
or sixth rank Texas. Texas goes down upset by Oklahoma State,
and technical difficulties for Clemson on ranked Virginia Tech upsets fifteen,
rank Clemson eight, and we now forged fourth into the night.
The low quacious Jason Smith and his chatter companion Mike

(01:46:04):
Harmon on Fox Sports Radio, Well, I I got a
suggestion for you. Yes, now, I like you. When you
said the Ducks danced on the stalls, I get it,
But what if you did this? What if you did
really dance? I mean it's like a rat stinging tonight
to collaborate on that. No, tonight, the Ducks went dancing
with the stars and we're eliminated four to two or

(01:46:27):
something like. I I I don't know. I just think
it's too wordy. It's too wordy. I would not want
to do that to you guys. It's too worthy. No
one got punk Stani tonight, didn't see that's one word,
one nice made up. Thank Mr Pittsno, West Virginia always

(01:46:49):
gets Pitt snuggled or they pitt S knoggle someone else,
or when Pitt gets pitt snoggled by West Virginia. It's like,
you know, a confluence of circumstances exactly. We're alive from
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fifteen more and car insurance more info visit Geico dot com. Boy,
you're really chapped about that rat stinging thing. You're really

(01:47:09):
upset about that you called me an ass? And when
when is that new? Yeah? You never do that, No,
you never never. You never stooped a name calling like
that once in a while. Mike never has a second
cup of coffee at home. Mike never calls me an ass.
And we're off the air. I mean, really, just I mean,
I get it. You're realizing that your whole life growing

(01:47:31):
up was a lie because you had a really bad
thing that was referenced and you had great memories. But
now you're just realizing that that was just bad information
about an animal. Oh you really just wanted to cut
me down. Couldn't let me just have a moment to
understand memory of the wanted to understand why a north
Western you would learn that rats stunk people had nothing
to do with my collegiate. If you're sure, I'm gonna

(01:47:55):
start tearing into your life and and and make you
go back to the couch. I'm I know, I know
rat stone stink people. I know that. I think he missed. Remember,
I was having a nice memory. A random phraseology that
we used that we thought was kind of funny. They
have been funny to you, Dad, My life was a lie.
Rat Stone stink people. I think you're making a little

(01:48:19):
more out of it than it is. But uh, and
good luck with your own demons. Uh. Look, I'm not
saying your dat No, I'm a man. Come, I'm not
saying that for you. But Kauai leonard away from the Spurs,
and we saw Greg Popovich say today I don't expect

(01:48:41):
them back all season. This is where it gets to
when he says it's up to Kauai when he's going
to return. Let it have been working out in Manhattan,
but he's working out on his own seeing doctors away
from the San Antonio Spurs. And when you hear Greg
Popovich say, why Leonard will come back when he's ready,

(01:49:01):
When when he feels he's ready, it's up to him.
This is Gregg Popovich saying, or whenever a coach says
it's about a player, he'll come back when he feels
he's ready. This is we don't think you're injured, and
this is something else. It's very reminiscent of the whole
Derrick Rose Chicago Bulls dance that went on. Why hasn't
he come back? What's this started? Talking about my left foot?

(01:49:25):
There's something going on that is making this a situation
that grows more untenable by the day. Why is Kauai
Leonard not back? What is he really injured? Why all
the secrecy? Why is this happening so much behind closed doors?
And it's gotten very stressful for the San Antonio Spurs.
In fact, I'll go this, Gregg Popovitch is not gonna

(01:49:46):
suffer a guy who for some reason is not playing
when he feels he should be playing. If you said
to me the odds of Kauai Leonard being a Spur
after this season, I would say less than this. I mean,
when when you're when you're out in but he knows
why and this is what's happening, and this is bad stuff, man,
This is this is this puts a division between you
and a team. You can't come back from well. And

(01:50:08):
that's the question, is that he was eligible to come
back in the middle of January and opted not to.
We're talking the injury as it's been classified, right, quad
tendinopathy say that five times real fast UH, disease of
attendant clinical presentation, tenderness, pain often when exercise, movement, very

(01:50:28):
general term as you go through it UH. And it's
all about paying threshold according to the reports. So away
from the Spurs, he's seeking other opinions, going outside the team,
doctors and just being a part. Now they've been reports
during that mid January time frame of acrimony and a

(01:50:48):
bit of a division with the team. And now we're
a full month later now, coming out of the All
Star break with games resuming tomorrow, very short window to
get himself healthy and ready and reacclimated to the team.
And Popovich in his comments made note of that as well.
It's like, we don't exactly have a lot of time
for him to to get back in with us at

(01:51:09):
this point, so we're not banking on it. We go
with what we have, and you know, two years left
on the deal before he's an unrestricted free agent having
signed that five year extension. And as we know, uh,
the the NBA flowing a little bit more, as is
the NFL. You're seeing a lot more in terms of
big time player movement, especially when they've decided that they

(01:51:31):
don't want to fit with the program anymore. And for
the Spurs, they haven't really missed a beat. Rough stretch
right at the end of the break. You had a
bunch of teams sleep walking through the final weeks. So
I don't know how much you put on that as
you got into the break, but certainly for Greg Popovich
it he doesn't strike me as the type going all

(01:51:52):
bella chicky and on stuff saying, you know what, we're
just gonna move on. We'll deal with it off the
outside of the parameters of what's going on game game.
And that's the thing, Like we see Kawai Leonard as
a superstar, but Kawuai Leonards become a star in Greg
Popovich's system, and clearly you know, you're still eleven games
over five hundred, despite the fact you lost three at

(01:52:13):
the end of the first half. It's not like he
is irreplaceable, because when you have star players who play
well in systems, it's okay, we can find another guy
to play well in the system if you know his
game is well enough. And this is what I mean
when I say guys like Kawhi Leonard and Steph Curry

(01:52:33):
our system players. Steph Curry was a really good player
before Steve Kerr showed up. He was a periphery top fifteen,
top eighteen guy in the league. You know, he's a
he was a twenty three six and six guy. He
was a good player. He was he was a guy
that was an all star caliber player, but he never
led them anywhere and the Warriors stunk. But Steve Kerr

(01:52:57):
shows up, installs his system of cutting and screens and
shots uh and and threes, and suddenly, now Steph Curry
becomes a super duper star. He was in the league
for seven years before Steve Kerr showed up, and this
was he was a twenty three six and six guy.
But Steve Kerr shows up and he jumps to a
thirty point of game guy. And I get the people
want to love he's got a great image. I understand that,

(01:53:17):
but in the end, he's really a system guy. He
went from being a really good player or something. Now
look how great I am. He wouldn't have been that player.
If Mark Jackson was still there, he would have been
that player, or somebody else was there. Steve Kerr comes in,
puts in a system and now look they can't be beat.
You know, they've been to three straight finals and they
should have won all three. Instead they've won two and
I'm sure they're gonna win this one. So this is

(01:53:39):
where you're at. And the same thing with Kawhi Leonard.
The Spurs have always been good, whether it was Tim
Duncan or Tony Parker, Gen Noble, whoever it was. And
now you have Kawhi Leonard and they've been really good
with him. But is he really a guy that Greg
Poppins is gonna say, no, we have to keep him,
or is he gonna say, well, we're not paying him,
We'll trade and we'll go get a this is who
I want. Let's trade him here, because that's what Popovich

(01:54:01):
will say. Why I want to trade him to this
team or this team, because this is the guy I
want from my system, because this is what's gonna work.
Two decades of excellence and consistency again, rivalry rivaling what
you've seen in the NFL with what the Patriots have done.
You have a player option in twenty nine twenties, so
in theory, uh Kauai can become a free agent after

(01:54:22):
the next full season. So the trade winds start blowing.
And as we talk about big name players and all
those guys hitting free agency, UH of the normal variety
plus the opt outs, You've got a very active and
probably very mobile distribution of stars coming up in these

(01:54:44):
next twenty four months. But Gregg Popovich isn't gonna be
beholden to one player. Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmen. Right now, under seventeen minutes to
go in overtime, Canada and the United States tied to
two apiece. The United it States just had two big
chances in front of Canada's net, could not get a goal.

(01:55:06):
Right now, another chance in front of Canada's net. They
have come out flying to start overtime, three good chances,
but they have not put the puck in the net
still to tot and counting to go. In overtime as
we continue, will be talking about a United States victory
and a gold medal. We'll be talking about Canada's victory

(01:55:26):
and a gold medal. Will still be going on. What
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whole world is riveted to this gold medal game women's
ice hockey. The United States and Canada tied a tow

(01:57:12):
apiece just under eleven minutes to go in overtime. So far,
the United States clearly has had the better play. They've
had three three on two's that they've not been able
to convert. And normally in hockey you see stuff like that.
You see three plays where a team gets a lot
of chances. You know, I hate to say it, but

(01:57:33):
I know hockey, and this is how it goes. How
many times you've seen chance and chance, chance, and then
the team goes down the other way and gets a
soft goal and wins. You know, that's unfortunately, that's kind
of that, that's kind of um a pattern that we
see all too often. But did you know that thirty
eight years ago today February, but those on the East
coast in the Midwest not white on mountain time, or

(01:57:56):
we're here on the West coast. Um was the miracle
on ice the eight years ago about that this wouldn't
quite be a miracle because the United States is clearly
the second best team in the world behind Canada. And
now you're too too in overtime, just under ten minutes
left to go. But I just thought it was a
nice anecdote. It's nice blowing here, and you know, we
had Lindsay Vaughn just finished what's probably the last run

(01:58:18):
of her career, and nobody cares because everybody, everybody is
ripped into this. That's afterthought. There was something put out
from the New York Times graphics department yesterday. I remember
we talked about what the differences between the point four
four seconds between Gold and Lindsay Vaughan's bronze, and they
had the entire runs done frame for frame as to

(01:58:39):
where the variance was in terms of there's their skis.
It's really an amazing graphic, as I show you here inside,
I will make sure to retweet this because it's really
an amazing thing. But we've got that, and we've got
the gold medal game that Jason is now getting really
twitchy about as we get inside of nine minutes. You know,
this is where everybody talks about hockey. And you know,

(01:59:02):
I'm not a hockey fan, and how do you get
people to be hockey fans? And I always hear the
same thing, and I hear it's you gotta go to
a game live. You go to a game live, and
you'll get hooked. All right, yes, and no, I I
can see that if you go to a game and
you sit low and you can watch the game, and
you go to a game live. Yeah, but you want
a sure fireway to make hockey fans, this is what

(01:59:23):
you have to watch. You watch overtime in the Olympics
or an NHL playoff game, and you will get hooked.
For the rest of your life. You will be a
hockey fan. Because I mean that. There is nothing in sports, NFL, NBA,
nothing in sports like overtime hockey because the game can
end at any second. You could say that for football,

(01:59:46):
but really you don't see a lot of ad yard
touchdowns and on the first play of overtime to win.
You don't see that. You don't see a lot of
seventy five yard runs to win a game. In overtime.
You have a lot of time to get used to things.
And even in overtime, now, if you score a touchdown,
all right, the other team gets a chance. Oh so
you get to fourth down. I'm not saying it's not exciting.
But when you talk about overtime and when the stakes

(02:00:07):
are high like this, and I mean like the NHL
playoffs or in an Olympic situation like this, every second
you're you're on pins and needles because every time the
puck comes over your blue line, you're nervous. Every time
the puck gets down into the other team zone, you
get excited that this could be at any slapshot from
even just outside the blue line, this could be at

(02:00:29):
this because you don't know what could go in in overtime.
It's an absolute crapshoot. It's nerve racking, and it's exactly
what sports should be. And if you want to be
a hockey fan, this is what to do. Don't watch
during the season, don't worry about going to a game,
don't spend money, wait turn stame on. Turn this game
on and watch it. Turn it overtime game on in

(02:00:50):
the NHL in the playoffs, and watch it, and you
will get hooked for the rest of your life. I
don't want people to go to games. Yeah, but that
will get you two games eventually. But we get we
get you into the three good level where everybody's a
bit rowdy and you get a little loose. Why is it?
Why is it got to be a rowdy level where
you go. I can't just be going to a game
because you want to be where there's energy and enthusiasm

(02:01:10):
and that there's energy over a rink and there's energy
all over in hockey. You can't. You consider the top
row of of an arena in hockey, and everybody's excited,
the goal happens, everybody stands up, everybody's going. It's a
different animal in the upper levels. But but no, but
it's not like you have bad seats. Seats. All seats
are good. And I'm not saying it's a level of seat.

(02:01:34):
I'm just saying the fans that are up in the
three hundred level maybe a bit more boisterous as the
the game flows. We will agree to disagree all the
rich people sitting down low or not that excited. Sometimes
not all the all the people sitting in the in
the boxes, except for the guys that are sitting next
to the next to the glass because they like to
bang on the glass and yell things. You know, that's

(02:01:54):
one thing I've never done. I've never banged on the
glass of a hockey game. I've been to so many practices,
in so many games. I've never gotten a bang on
the glass tour in a game. Well, you'll have to
make that one of your sports bucket list kind of items. Now, Yeah,
I know the whalers moved that can't go to any
more games. That's it you quit? Uh, he's out. Quit
Wait to get to LaVar. Fox Sports Radio, The Jason

(02:02:17):
Smith Show, Jason, Mike Harman getting on Twitter at how
about a Fresco. Mike is at Swollen Dome right now,
six minutes to go in overtime. The United States just
missed another big check the energy infectious. I'm turning everybody
into hockey. Now coming up next my buddy Ben Mallor.

(02:02:39):
This is the Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen. Right here,
Fox Sports Radio. We're gonna get a goal. Let's see
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