May 11, 2024 • 27 mins
Chris and Rob explain why Draymond Green is spot on when he says that this current New York Knicks playoff run is a ‘fluke’ that won’t be sustained in the years to come, tell us if Caitlin Clark will be able to make the WNBA a viable product for sports fans in America and discuss this wild sports media beef between James Jones and Austin Rivers and the narrative that NBA players could play in the NFL.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Everyone in these parts is going crazy over the New
York Knicks.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
And oh the possibilities.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Could this be the year where they break the drought
and get to the NBA Finals? Where they break the drought?
I said, they get to the NBA Finals for the
first time in twenty five years. Last time was nineteen
ninety nine, right the lineration And yes, and I covered
(01:02):
that series a generation ago.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
They lost in five to the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Or man, could they actually win their first championship in
fifty one years nineteen seventy three the last time they want?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And I hate to say this, Rob, but it is
the truth.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
When the Knicks won their two championships nineteen seventy nineteen
seventy three, especially.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Half of the best players in the world were in
the ABA.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
It's just true. Yeah, but there's nothing that they could
do about that.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I know, but I'm just saying, you do what you
want with that, but it is it is the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Half of the best players in the world were not.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
What you want them to do playing the other league.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Nah, but I want to give the ABA players just
as much credit. I want to give Doctor J just
as much credit for his two rings uh in the
A b A as the Knicks and the Lakers with
Jerry West and Will Chamberlain and the Jerry West, Oscar Robertson,
UH and the Knicks. That's just the name a few.
(02:15):
Their only championships came. Well, half of the best players
in the world weren't even in the NBA. I'm just saying,
so let's get I'm saying that to say, let's give
Doctor J and those ABA stars just as much credit
for their rings as we give the NBA during that
period of the ABA.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
The only problem is, yeah, you have digressed, Oh.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Go ahead, you got something.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Only just that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, only the only reason you don't give them as
much credit is one league survived and the other one didn't.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
That that that's why if it was the other way around.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
If it was the other way around, and it was
the ABA we're talking about it, and the NBA was
the one to put five teams into the A B A,
then then it would be the.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Reverse, right, I agree, that's the only one.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Also, Yeah, because then the ABA.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
The thing that really made me start thinking about this, Rob,
they used to play exhibition games, the ABA and the
NBA against each other.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You know this.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Every year they played well over one hundred I think
about one hundred and fifty something total. The last three
years they played exhibition games before the merger.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
The ABA won like sixty four percent of them.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah that was but you know
what I'm saying, No, I get, although I do wonder
had that been the case, they may have got grandfathered
those rings in somehow or something like that. So I
just think the ABA, considering that it was I would
say at least as.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Good as the NBA, if not better.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I know they didn't have as many teams and all that,
but I think you got to give those guys credit.
All right, But anyway, Rob, here we want to talk
about the Knicks and Draymond Green.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I'm catching flak.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I think you're catching flak because we're saying Jalen.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Brunts and it's not a superstar.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well, Draymond Green has joined you and me and catching
flag not for saying Bruns is not a superstar, but
for saying this on his podcast.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
In the Eastern Conference, you can get to the conference.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Finals Atlanta Hawks with like playing very mid teams.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
And so that's kind of what y'all are doing right now.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
And I think what this is setting up for y'all
up for is what happened to the Atlanta Hawks three
years ago when they made the conference finals.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
And they never got back.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Another team to give you some perspective on this, Nope,
but one second.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Another team that did this to.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Give you some perspective on this was the Portland trump
Blazers years ago when they had Alfa Arukaminu, Alan Krabb
all those guys. They had all those guys, and they
went to the conference finals and we swept them pretty
much without Steph Curry. They ran off and paid all
of those guys because they thought they had a team
that had a chance and it was a fluke. And
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so that's what the Knicks are setting y'all up for
right now. And it'll be probably another fifteen years of
misery that we all sit around and laugh at Knicks
fans with their delusion about.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
You know what happens?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Who is that with him? Does anybody know who that was? Okay,
we don't know who that guy is on there with him,
But Rob, it sounds like a Knick fan because he
was all right, yeah, definitely was a Knicks game. Rob,
He's right, he is so right. Now I disagree, I
don't even disagree a lot. But it's possible if the
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Knicks make the right moves in the summer that they
add a star, whether it's trading Julius Randalls, some of
those draft picks whatever to get another star.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
With Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's possible that they could really become a legit contender.
But Draymond Green is on the money. The Eastern Conference
is food gaz. It was fu Gayzy when you were healthy,
and now without Yiannis, without Dame at least in part
with Joe lmbat on one tire with the Balls and Celtics,
(06:12):
even without Chris daphfazingis with Jimmy Butler out for Miami,
it is a fu Gayze comedy. The Western Conference is
the varsity. The Eastern Conference is the jv. The Knicks
would not be doing this in the East or in
the West. And he is absolutely right. This team is
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not one of the elite teams in the league. They
are doing great. I have nothing but respect for him,
Jalen Brunson, Tom Thibodeaux, Ogian Nanobi, Isaiah Hartenstein, Josh Hart, Donte, Devincenzo,
all of them. They are doing outstanding work. But they
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are not in the class of the Nuggets, the t
Wolves and teams like and I'm don't even think the Celtics,
although I got worries about the Celtics mental state, but
I think Draymond's right, Rob. This is a wonderful story.
But don't be fooled if you think it's an elite
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team that you know, we're as constructed right now, is
about to go on some type of great run.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Right, Well, I've said it.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
What did I say that last week or a couple
of days ago, that they've been, you know, more lucky
than good and situation circumstances. We talked about all the
close games easily what was their first five games or
whatever it was, or first seven with the point differential
was five.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Well, we did the series with Philly, Well they won
that series by one point. Even though they won the
series obviously, and right now Chris is plus fourteen and
eight games.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
All these have been real rais or close where they
could have gone the other way. They got some bad calls,
their opponents got bad calls at the Matters Square Garden
a few games.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
So there's a lot of things going.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, both definitely, But but the other thing is it
is about what.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
They can do to improve on this.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
If it's just a pat like you got the magic formula,
then you're gonna be in for a rude awakening because
of all the injuries in the East and what's happened.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
So if j you know on that, I get it.
Jo Aymond.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He did a little lecture to rub it in on
Knicks fans, which is fine. I mean, I mean, I
have no issue with that. But but the premise is
not far fetched.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Absolutely absolutely, and we'll see what the Knicks do this offseason.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
That's the key. Now, you know, tonight it's a huge game.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Obviously they win the night, they should win the series,
go up three to zero. But Indiana with the Knicks
ailing and look Indiana, Rob, they're kind of playing with
house money because they're so young. But to me, if
they lose this series, it's not a death kneil again
because they're young, but they should not lose this series.
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With the Knicks so beat up, Indiana could easily be
up two to zero, and not just because of calls,
but they these games have been close enough where they
could have won both. And if they can't beat the
Knicks with Jalen Brunson playing on the bad foot and
o Johnnobe out at least for this game and probably more,
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then they don't deserve to win and they really need
to do some soul searching in the offseason.
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Speaker 3 (10:18):
Caitlyn Clark, we we've talked at nauseam about what will
the impact be that she has on the WNBA. Will
she have the impact that everybody's assuming she will have,
or will she kind of fade away like a lot
of the great players have in the WNBA who were
wonderful college players but weren't able to really.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Put the WNBO on the map, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, Rob in her first preseason game in Indiana, so
her first home preseason game. She is at the Knicks
Pacers game. By the way, they showed her on TV
ROB for a preseason game on a Thursday night, thirteen
thousand fans. Now here's the perspective, and it was at
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the Pacers arena. Last year the fever, the Indiana fever.
The WNBA team averaged four thousand fans per game last year,
So that is significant. That is an absolute boost, to
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say the least. So so far, Robin, we haven't even
started the real season, but so far, the Caitlin Clark
effect is in full effect.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I think she's just as I said to you before,
she's the hallm globe trotter. She will attract people. I
don't think that there's even any issue about that of
people who want to see her who didn't get to
see her during the college if they come to you
know what I mean, she comes to that town or whatever.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, it's the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
League that we're talking about, her team and the game
she plays in for at least in the beginning, Chris,
people are gonna want to see what can she do?
And she putting up the logo threes you know what
I mean? All that they will be in that there's
no there's a there will be tickets. It's the second
time around, the third time around, do you know what
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I mean?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Like the initial yes.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well that that wants you like you said initially of course,
and then she will have to play really well. Like
I was just talking with Alex doing a break about it, and.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Alice was talking about the w NBA.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, yeah, and we I think rob he was kind
of saying, if she's dominant, that could hurt because people
will be like, well, what's the competition. I'm like, no,
I think the best thing for her for the w
they want to see a ball up be if she
is dominant, if she if she averages twenty four and
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not assist as a rookie, and the Indiana Fever are good,
like they need her to be dominant, Rob, And I
think if she is, you're right, I mean, but that's
all you can ask for is that people.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Go to her games. And if people really go to
her games, and then.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You know she's playing really well, and then in the
playoffs they want to see her play, that will spread
out to the other game, other teams, it'll spread out,
and Rob, it might put again in college, you've got
players now because of her to some degree, to a
large degree like Becker's page, Becker's in at Yukon Juju
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Watkins at USC that people are gonna be watching for
and so then when they enter the league, like she
could have a whole trickle down effect where yeah, it
starts with just people going to the Fever games, but
then it spreads out because I think, I mean, obviously
the NBA was in pretty good shape when Michael Jordan
joined it, but when he joined it, that didn't have
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an impact on the Sacramento Kings ticket sales. But eventually,
because people fell in love with him and he was
so great and he brought so many casual fans, it
does trickle down to everybody else.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
I think that's what they're hoping with the w n
b A.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I'm my thing would be just curious of the preseason
game or whatever, what was the attendance around the rest
of the league.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
If people are.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well again, I mean, I don't even know how you expect.
I don't hurt that to have an effect on the
rest of the league, but.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
The rest of the other game. There was another preseason
game that day five, which is which is what the league?
Which is what the league is, right, And I'm just
saying I agree.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But don't you think if she's great, if she's let's
say at your point, she don't other teams don't sell
more than they did last year, right, but the fever
blow up.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Don't you think if she's really.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Good that that's going to impact eventually the rest.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Of the league. I'm not sure. I'm really not, because.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
I mean, she did because basketball, but I want to
see after people have seen her in person once or twice,
is it okay if you.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Don't get tired of seeing a great player.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I mean, people wanted to keep seeing Lebron, they wanted
to keep seeing Michael. I just and I get it.
She's not I'm not saying she's that, but she is
fun to watch. She's not just piling up points.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
That's not what I'm fun to watch. I have to
believe it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Just for me to think that she's going to sell
out every single one of her games for the next
thirteen oh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I don't know that that's even a I mean, certainly
they can hold more near arena.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't know if they put.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Tarp on the top or not know that, but that
sounds like about right, Chris NBA arenas aren't that.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Big, right or they No, they're bigger there.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
They hold rough eighteen Yeah, anywhere from eighteen or over twenty.
You know, average is probably nineteen twenty.
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Speaker 3 (16:10):
Rob we were talking on Shop Talk about the beefs
Shannon versus Shack and Kendrick versus Drake and so on
and so forth, and I said, there's one out there
that I'm we're missing. And this was it Austin Reed
Rivers versus James Jones. And it really was kind of,
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at least initially, Austin Rivers versus the entire NFL. But
here's what Austin said to get himself in, I guess
hot water.
Speaker 10 (16:40):
We got to get you outside of that football lane, man,
where the guaranteed contracts are, where the best athletes in
the world are.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
That's us.
Speaker 10 (16:47):
I could take thirty players right now in the NBA
and throw them in the NFL. You cannot take thirty
NFL players and put them in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Whoa five on the court. Let's just let you get
a break every play.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I gotta just catch them runs north or south.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I mean, look, we talked about this rock Austin overstated,
and and look they're in an argument or you know,
just excited conversation. He probably didn't mean thirty literally, but
it's probably more like between five and ten. Rob that
could play in the NFL. Like now that you could
take uh and put him in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
But that sparked. Obviously, NFL players didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
And Rob g take it from here because it's and
it has been back and forth with several guys, but
mostly James Jones, our own FS one Fox Sports colleague,
James Jones, Chris Packers.
Speaker 11 (17:44):
Chris Long, JJ Watt, Jeff Shortz, the Weekend got here
all going, George Reiser got in involved in it. But
the one has been the most vocal has been FS
one's James Jones, former Packers wide receiver. So he first
took really offense to it when the audio first came
out and he was saying some of the effect of
Austin needs to put more respect on our sport.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
It's not an easy game.
Speaker 11 (18:05):
If you would have came out there, you would have
quit immediately because you would have got broken. Talk about
soft NBA players are Austin Rivers responded, they didn't like that, say,
I never heard of you talking about I barely made
the NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But I was a lot of repick, like what are
you saying?
Speaker 11 (18:19):
Then, James Jones felt like he dropped the hammer because
he suggested that Austin Rivers was a bust.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
He suggest while saying it, Austin Rivers is a bust.
Speaker 11 (18:29):
You averaged nine points a game two rebounds to assist
only because your dad where you were taking in a
lot of ride says I'm not going to go back
and forth. You if I was six four two hundred,
maybe you should have tried a football. You might have
had a better career. And then Austin Rivers came over
on the top rope and today he said, I'm not
talking about it anymore, but if we want to talk numbers,
let's talk about the fifty seven million I made in
my career and then you made seventeen and I made
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more than that in one season. So it's been going
on all week. I think this is the end of it,
but that's the to be your thoughts, what you're doing this.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I feel bad for people that this is what I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I just don't understand like people people need, I guess
feel like they need something to be worked up about.
So what if he thinks that there's and Chris, you
could have a conversation about it, But now you get
all personal.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I don't understand that part of it.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You want to have a debate or have a conversation
when you get in the name cub we talk about
it's the lowest common denominator. When you get into name
calling and all kinds of other situations, that's when I
turn off. Like if you want to have a debate
and and if and if I'm if if Austin Rivers
laid out Chris, well, let me name a couple of
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players who play basketball and not football in college and
they wind up being uh, pro football Hall of famers
or you know whatever it is, right and then and
then the other comeback is, well, what about like like
they could be an argument or conversation, but to go
like gutter and foul right away, that's when I tune out.
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I just I'm not interested in that stuff. And I
know a lot of people into it. I talked about
it before, lowest common denominator, Chris, and people are into
that stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I'm just not and maybe I'm just too old. That
stuff doesn't do anything for me.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
No people are into it. It's entertaining for a lot
of people. And I agree, like debates are fine, back
and forth are fine, but even like I said, with
Kendrick and Drake, I mean, it just devolved into such.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Just dark name calling accusation.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Chris A found that they are right like a pedophile
like right, you better have receipts with that stuff. He
need receipts for it too, like you know. And so yeah,
I agree, and this, look, I get why NFL players
were offended, because.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
It does.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I mean, if it if somebody said, you know a
lot of these NFL guys could go to the NBA
and and play, well, the NBA players would be offended.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
You know, that's your profession.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Man, You're one of only a handful that got to
that level, and you know how hard it is, and
you know how much harder the NFL is physically, at least,
you know, as far as the collisions, the hits and stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Like that than the NBA. So I get why they're upset.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
But I think you make a good point that you know,
you want to just keep it on the on the credentials,
and I mean James called him a buck.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
He just went he went at his credentials, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And and I do think Robin fairness, if somebody just said,
I mean, you get upset with that or with athletes
that jump jump into media because you're like, look, I
know what it took to get to where we're at
and be journalists. I don't have a I don't have
a problem in there.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I don't have a problem with people being analysts.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I'm talking about when they prop them up and act
like they're reporters or that's that's similar.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's really no different an NFL player being upset because
Austin Rivers said, man, we could take thirty of.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
These cats, but at least he has some examples.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
That's all I'm saying, is like his is not that
Antonio Gates is probably Who's the other player we talked
about earlier.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
The other ones played a little jim Jimmy Pepper's like
they most of them played in college both sports football
and basketball. So but still, I mean, I do think
there are NBA guys that could play in the NFL.
I think you could take some and you gave him
a training camp, maybe a year to get ready, and
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they will be able to do it. But I also
think from it for NFL players, I don't think you
could just take I don't know if you could take
hardly any, if any NFL players and they could play
in the NBA, like with a year of training or
something like that. But I do think they're NFL players
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that had they chosen basketball instead of football, when they
went to college that I think there might be something
that could have made the NBA because Rob, you know,
I mean Deon Sanders was a fantastic basketball player as
well as baseball and football in high school. A lot
of these dudes were high school basketball stars. Greg Jennings
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Rom Greg Jenny's on our show all the time. Rob,
he got recruited by Michigan State to play basketball. So
like Greg was a great player in Michigan where they
got Hoopers.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
He from played basketball too.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
He e Fron played basketball in college.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
So doesn't mean that they were going to make it
to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
A lot of guys, but back then, a lot of
good athletes play multiple sports. It doesn't mean that they
were going to be And then for the most part,
people pick, you know, sports because they know what they're
really best in.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
It's funny I told you that, you know, or their
size or whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You can look at what they think it's easier to
make it to the league.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think I told the story before about David Justice
went to college as on a basket to play basketball,
and they random Chris, they were doing the drills and
all that.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
He just he didn't want to do them.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And he went and he saw the baseball team over
there playing and just decided to go out for the.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Team and drinking beer and the dugout, you.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And and but he made it to the major league
because he a scout was at a game where he
hit two home runs out of the ballpark.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Chris, and that was it. That really is all he said.
That's how they're fantastic athletes. And so you know a
lot of them could you know, maybe play a different sport.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
But yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Interesting because beef is definitely in the air. I don't
know what's going on, right. I mean, you and I
have a show based on beef, The eyd Couple based
on debating and going out, and we don't go at
it like these these dudes are like.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You know what I mean, And it's so personal. I
just don't like, isn't it, Chris. It just seemed like
a real personal well and I'm.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Not gonna get on let's not get we can get
on a high horse maybe individually, but look, we see
two of our two journalists, one of us is a
great friend of ours, stephen A. And what I didn't
like that with him and with really, yeah, I don't
like that either.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I mean it got it got ugly. I didn't like
that either.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, I agree, because I don't generally like I don't
see it as my place to.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I mean, get in beefs with other reports if.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You have an issue to me, if you want to
have a conversation privately, or you want to yell at
each other on the phone for five minutes, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
But the public part of it, I guess, is what
I have an issue.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
With, because at the end of the day, Rob, you're
entertaining people.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
You're just entertaining. And I don't mean like in a
good way.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Necessarily, No, right, people love that.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's like people are and sometimes people are
laughing at you. Sometimes people think it's ridiculous, but it's entertaining,
you know, and so you know. But I think ultimately
what I'm saying is I do think they're I think
it would be easier for some of these NBA players,
just a few, to move to the NFL. I think
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of Anthony Edwards. I think I think Lebron Rob. I
think Lebron would have been a Hall of Fame football player.
Hatty chosen to go to the NFL because he was
phenomenal in high school. Ain't Ohio? Well, Ohio was a
football Ohio is not a basketball state. It's amazing that
(27:04):
Lebron came from Ohio because it's not like one of
the basketball hot.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Beds, but it is a football state.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
It is a hotbed football state, top probably seven in
the country as far as states and high school football.
And so for him to be dominant, and I know
the school he went to, they were dominant.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Football school and basketball, but more so.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Football, and he was great. So I think he went
his speed, his size. He is one I think would
have been a Hall of Fame tight end or something
like that.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Chris Bruso and Ron Harker.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Everyone in these parts is going crazy over the New
York Knicks.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
And oh the possibilities.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Could this be the year where they break the drought
and get to the NBA Finals? Where they break the drought?
I said, they get to the NBA Finals for the
first time in twenty five years. Last time was nineteen
ninety nine, right the lineration And yes, and I covered
(01:02):
that series a generation ago.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
They lost in five to the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Or man, could they actually win their first championship in
fifty one years nineteen seventy three the last time they want?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
And I hate to say this, Rob, but it is
the truth.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
When the Knicks won their two championships nineteen seventy nineteen
seventy three, especially.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Half of the best players in the world were in
the ABA.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
It's just true. Yeah, but there's nothing that they could
do about that.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I know, but I'm just saying, you do what you
want with that, but it is it is the truth.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Half of the best players in the world were not.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
What you want them to do playing the other league.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Nah, but I want to give the ABA players just
as much credit. I want to give Doctor J just
as much credit for his two rings uh in the
A b A as the Knicks and the Lakers with
Jerry West and Will Chamberlain and the Jerry West, Oscar Robertson,
UH and the Knicks. That's just the name a few.
(02:15):
Their only championships came. Well, half of the best players
in the world weren't even in the NBA. I'm just saying,
so let's get I'm saying that to say, let's give
Doctor J and those ABA stars just as much credit
for their rings as we give the NBA during that
period of the ABA.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
The only problem is, yeah, you have digressed, Oh.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Go ahead, you got something.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Only just that.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, only the only reason you don't give them as
much credit is one league survived and the other one didn't.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
That that that's why if it was the other way around.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
If it was the other way around, and it was
the ABA we're talking about it, and the NBA was
the one to put five teams into the A B A,
then then it would be the.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Reverse, right, I agree, that's the only one.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Also, Yeah, because then the ABA.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
The thing that really made me start thinking about this, Rob,
they used to play exhibition games, the ABA and the
NBA against each other.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You know this.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Every year they played well over one hundred I think
about one hundred and fifty something total. The last three
years they played exhibition games before the merger.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
The ABA won like sixty four percent of them.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah that was but you know
what I'm saying, No, I get, although I do wonder
had that been the case, they may have got grandfathered
those rings in somehow or something like that. So I
just think the ABA, considering that it was I would
say at least as.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Good as the NBA, if not better.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I know they didn't have as many teams and all that,
but I think you got to give those guys credit.
All right, But anyway, Rob, here we want to talk
about the Knicks and Draymond Green.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I'm catching flak.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I think you're catching flak because we're saying Jalen.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Brunts and it's not a superstar.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Well, Draymond Green has joined you and me and catching
flag not for saying Bruns is not a superstar, but
for saying this on his podcast.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
In the Eastern Conference, you can get to the conference.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Finals Atlanta Hawks with like playing very mid teams.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
And so that's kind of what y'all are doing right now.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
And I think what this is setting up for y'all
up for is what happened to the Atlanta Hawks three
years ago when they made the conference finals.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
And they never got back.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Another team to give you some perspective on this, Nope,
but one second.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Another team that did this to.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Give you some perspective on this was the Portland trump
Blazers years ago when they had Alfa Arukaminu, Alan Krabb
all those guys. They had all those guys, and they
went to the conference finals and we swept them pretty
much without Steph Curry. They ran off and paid all
of those guys because they thought they had a team
that had a chance and it was a fluke. And
(05:00):
so that's what the Knicks are setting y'all up for
right now. And it'll be probably another fifteen years of
misery that we all sit around and laugh at Knicks
fans with their delusion about.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
You know what happens?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Who is that with him? Does anybody know who that was? Okay,
we don't know who that guy is on there with him,
But Rob, it sounds like a Knick fan because he
was all right, yeah, definitely was a Knicks game. Rob,
He's right, he is so right. Now I disagree, I
don't even disagree a lot. But it's possible if the
(05:39):
Knicks make the right moves in the summer that they
add a star, whether it's trading Julius Randalls, some of
those draft picks whatever to get another star.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
With Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It's possible that they could really become a legit contender.
But Draymond Green is on the money. The Eastern Conference
is food gaz. It was fu Gayzy when you were healthy,
and now without Yiannis, without Dame at least in part
with Joe lmbat on one tire with the Balls and Celtics,
(06:12):
even without Chris daphfazingis with Jimmy Butler out for Miami,
it is a fu Gayze comedy. The Western Conference is
the varsity. The Eastern Conference is the jv. The Knicks
would not be doing this in the East or in
the West. And he is absolutely right. This team is
(06:33):
not one of the elite teams in the league. They
are doing great. I have nothing but respect for him,
Jalen Brunson, Tom Thibodeaux, Ogian Nanobi, Isaiah Hartenstein, Josh Hart, Donte, Devincenzo,
all of them. They are doing outstanding work. But they
(06:53):
are not in the class of the Nuggets, the t
Wolves and teams like and I'm don't even think the Celtics,
although I got worries about the Celtics mental state, but
I think Draymond's right, Rob. This is a wonderful story.
But don't be fooled if you think it's an elite
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team that you know, we're as constructed right now, is
about to go on some type of great run.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
Right, Well, I've said it.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
What did I say that last week or a couple
of days ago, that they've been, you know, more lucky
than good and situation circumstances. We talked about all the
close games easily what was their first five games or
whatever it was, or first seven with the point differential
was five.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Well, we did the series with Philly, Well they won
that series by one point. Even though they won the
series obviously, and right now Chris is plus fourteen and
eight games.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
All these have been real rais or close where they
could have gone the other way. They got some bad calls,
their opponents got bad calls at the Matters Square Garden
a few games.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
So there's a lot of things going.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, both definitely, But but the other thing is it
is about what.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
They can do to improve on this.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
If it's just a pat like you got the magic formula,
then you're gonna be in for a rude awakening because
of all the injuries in the East and what's happened.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
So if j you know on that, I get it.
Jo Aymond.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
He did a little lecture to rub it in on
Knicks fans, which is fine. I mean, I mean, I
have no issue with that. But but the premise is
not far fetched.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Absolutely absolutely, and we'll see what the Knicks do this offseason.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
That's the key. Now, you know, tonight it's a huge game.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Obviously they win the night, they should win the series,
go up three to zero. But Indiana with the Knicks
ailing and look Indiana, Rob, they're kind of playing with
house money because they're so young. But to me, if
they lose this series, it's not a death kneil again
because they're young, but they should not lose this series.
(09:09):
With the Knicks so beat up, Indiana could easily be
up two to zero, and not just because of calls,
but they these games have been close enough where they
could have won both. And if they can't beat the
Knicks with Jalen Brunson playing on the bad foot and
o Johnnobe out at least for this game and probably more,
(09:31):
then they don't deserve to win and they really need
to do some soul searching in the offseason.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
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Speaker 8 (09:49):
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Speaker 3 (10:18):
Caitlyn Clark, we we've talked at nauseam about what will
the impact be that she has on the WNBA. Will
she have the impact that everybody's assuming she will have,
or will she kind of fade away like a lot
of the great players have in the WNBA who were
wonderful college players but weren't able to really.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Put the WNBO on the map, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, Rob in her first preseason game in Indiana, so
her first home preseason game. She is at the Knicks
Pacers game. By the way, they showed her on TV
ROB for a preseason game on a Thursday night, thirteen
thousand fans. Now here's the perspective, and it was at
(11:07):
the Pacers arena. Last year the fever, the Indiana fever.
The WNBA team averaged four thousand fans per game last year,
So that is significant. That is an absolute boost, to
(11:28):
say the least. So so far, Robin, we haven't even
started the real season, but so far, the Caitlin Clark
effect is in full effect.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I think she's just as I said to you before,
she's the hallm globe trotter. She will attract people. I
don't think that there's even any issue about that of
people who want to see her who didn't get to
see her during the college if they come to you
know what I mean, she comes to that town or whatever.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Yeah, it's the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
League that we're talking about, her team and the game
she plays in for at least in the beginning, Chris,
people are gonna want to see what can she do?
And she putting up the logo threes you know what
I mean? All that they will be in that there's
no there's a there will be tickets. It's the second
time around, the third time around, do you know what
(12:19):
I mean?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Like the initial yes.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well that that wants you like you said initially of course,
and then she will have to play really well. Like
I was just talking with Alex doing a break about it, and.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Alice was talking about the w NBA.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, yeah, and we I think rob he was kind
of saying, if she's dominant, that could hurt because people
will be like, well, what's the competition. I'm like, no,
I think the best thing for her for the w
they want to see a ball up be if she
is dominant, if she if she averages twenty four and
(12:59):
not assist as a rookie, and the Indiana Fever are good,
like they need her to be dominant, Rob, And I
think if she is, you're right, I mean, but that's
all you can ask for is that people.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Go to her games. And if people really go to
her games, and then.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You know she's playing really well, and then in the
playoffs they want to see her play, that will spread
out to the other game, other teams, it'll spread out,
and Rob, it might put again in college, you've got
players now because of her to some degree, to a
large degree like Becker's page, Becker's in at Yukon Juju
(13:45):
Watkins at USC that people are gonna be watching for
and so then when they enter the league, like she
could have a whole trickle down effect where yeah, it
starts with just people going to the Fever games, but
then it spreads out because I think, I mean, obviously
the NBA was in pretty good shape when Michael Jordan
joined it, but when he joined it, that didn't have
(14:08):
an impact on the Sacramento Kings ticket sales. But eventually,
because people fell in love with him and he was
so great and he brought so many casual fans, it
does trickle down to everybody else.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
I think that's what they're hoping with the w n
b A.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I'm my thing would be just curious of the preseason
game or whatever, what was the attendance around the rest
of the league.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
If people are.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Well again, I mean, I don't even know how you expect.
I don't hurt that to have an effect on the
rest of the league, but.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
The rest of the other game. There was another preseason
game that day five, which is which is what the league?
Which is what the league is, right, And I'm just
saying I agree.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
But don't you think if she's great, if she's let's
say at your point, she don't other teams don't sell
more than they did last year, right, but the fever
blow up.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Don't you think if she's really.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Good that that's going to impact eventually the rest.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Of the league. I'm not sure. I'm really not, because.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
I mean, she did because basketball, but I want to
see after people have seen her in person once or twice,
is it okay if you.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Don't get tired of seeing a great player.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I mean, people wanted to keep seeing Lebron, they wanted
to keep seeing Michael. I just and I get it.
She's not I'm not saying she's that, but she is
fun to watch. She's not just piling up points.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
That's not what I'm fun to watch. I have to
believe it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Just for me to think that she's going to sell
out every single one of her games for the next
thirteen oh, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I don't know that that's even a I mean, certainly
they can hold more near arena.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I don't know if they put.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Tarp on the top or not know that, but that
sounds like about right, Chris NBA arenas aren't that.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Big, right or they No, they're bigger there.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
They hold rough eighteen Yeah, anywhere from eighteen or over twenty.
You know, average is probably nineteen twenty.
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Speaker 3 (16:10):
Rob we were talking on Shop Talk about the beefs
Shannon versus Shack and Kendrick versus Drake and so on
and so forth, and I said, there's one out there
that I'm we're missing. And this was it Austin Reed
Rivers versus James Jones. And it really was kind of,
(16:31):
at least initially, Austin Rivers versus the entire NFL. But
here's what Austin said to get himself in, I guess
hot water.
Speaker 10 (16:40):
We got to get you outside of that football lane, man,
where the guaranteed contracts are, where the best athletes in
the world are.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
That's us.
Speaker 10 (16:47):
I could take thirty players right now in the NBA
and throw them in the NFL. You cannot take thirty
NFL players and put them in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Whoa five on the court. Let's just let you get
a break every play.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I gotta just catch them runs north or south.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I mean, look, we talked about this rock Austin overstated,
and and look they're in an argument or you know,
just excited conversation. He probably didn't mean thirty literally, but
it's probably more like between five and ten. Rob that
could play in the NFL. Like now that you could
take uh and put him in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
But that sparked. Obviously, NFL players didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
And Rob g take it from here because it's and
it has been back and forth with several guys, but
mostly James Jones, our own FS one Fox Sports colleague,
James Jones, Chris Packers.
Speaker 11 (17:44):
Chris Long, JJ Watt, Jeff Shortz, the Weekend got here
all going, George Reiser got in involved in it. But
the one has been the most vocal has been FS
one's James Jones, former Packers wide receiver. So he first
took really offense to it when the audio first came
out and he was saying some of the effect of
Austin needs to put more respect on our sport.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
It's not an easy game.
Speaker 11 (18:05):
If you would have came out there, you would have
quit immediately because you would have got broken. Talk about
soft NBA players are Austin Rivers responded, they didn't like that, say,
I never heard of you talking about I barely made
the NBA.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
But I was a lot of repick, like what are
you saying?
Speaker 11 (18:19):
Then, James Jones felt like he dropped the hammer because
he suggested that Austin Rivers was a bust.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
He suggest while saying it, Austin Rivers is a bust.
Speaker 11 (18:29):
You averaged nine points a game two rebounds to assist
only because your dad where you were taking in a
lot of ride says I'm not going to go back
and forth. You if I was six four two hundred,
maybe you should have tried a football. You might have
had a better career. And then Austin Rivers came over
on the top rope and today he said, I'm not
talking about it anymore, but if we want to talk numbers,
let's talk about the fifty seven million I made in
my career and then you made seventeen and I made
(18:53):
more than that in one season. So it's been going
on all week. I think this is the end of it,
but that's the to be your thoughts, what you're doing this.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I feel bad for people that this is what I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I just don't understand like people people need, I guess
feel like they need something to be worked up about.
So what if he thinks that there's and Chris, you
could have a conversation about it, But now you get
all personal.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I don't understand that part of it.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You want to have a debate or have a conversation
when you get in the name cub we talk about
it's the lowest common denominator. When you get into name
calling and all kinds of other situations, that's when I
turn off. Like if you want to have a debate
and and if and if I'm if if Austin Rivers
laid out Chris, well, let me name a couple of
(19:47):
players who play basketball and not football in college and
they wind up being uh, pro football Hall of famers
or you know whatever it is, right and then and
then the other comeback is, well, what about like like
they could be an argument or conversation, but to go
like gutter and foul right away, that's when I tune out.
(20:07):
I just I'm not interested in that stuff. And I
know a lot of people into it. I talked about
it before, lowest common denominator, Chris, and people are into
that stuff.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I'm just not and maybe I'm just too old. That
stuff doesn't do anything for me.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
No people are into it. It's entertaining for a lot
of people. And I agree, like debates are fine, back
and forth are fine, but even like I said, with
Kendrick and Drake, I mean, it just devolved into such.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Just dark name calling accusation.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Chris A found that they are right like a pedophile
like right, you better have receipts with that stuff. He
need receipts for it too, like you know. And so yeah,
I agree, and this, look, I get why NFL players
were offended, because.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
It does.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
I mean, if it if somebody said, you know a
lot of these NFL guys could go to the NBA
and and play, well, the NBA players would be offended.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
You know, that's your profession.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Man, You're one of only a handful that got to
that level, and you know how hard it is, and
you know how much harder the NFL is physically, at least,
you know, as far as the collisions, the hits and stuff.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Like that than the NBA. So I get why they're upset.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
But I think you make a good point that you know,
you want to just keep it on the on the credentials,
and I mean James called him a buck.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
He just went he went at his credentials, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And and I do think Robin fairness, if somebody just said,
I mean, you get upset with that or with athletes
that jump jump into media because you're like, look, I
know what it took to get to where we're at
and be journalists. I don't have a I don't have
a problem in there.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
I don't have a problem with people being analysts.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I'm talking about when they prop them up and act
like they're reporters or that's that's similar.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
It's really no different an NFL player being upset because
Austin Rivers said, man, we could take thirty of.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
These cats, but at least he has some examples.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
That's all I'm saying, is like his is not that
Antonio Gates is probably Who's the other player we talked
about earlier.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
The other ones played a little jim Jimmy Pepper's like
they most of them played in college both sports football
and basketball. So but still, I mean, I do think
there are NBA guys that could play in the NFL.
I think you could take some and you gave him
a training camp, maybe a year to get ready, and
(22:59):
they will be able to do it. But I also
think from it for NFL players, I don't think you
could just take I don't know if you could take
hardly any, if any NFL players and they could play
in the NBA, like with a year of training or
something like that. But I do think they're NFL players
(23:20):
that had they chosen basketball instead of football, when they
went to college that I think there might be something
that could have made the NBA because Rob, you know,
I mean Deon Sanders was a fantastic basketball player as
well as baseball and football in high school. A lot
of these dudes were high school basketball stars. Greg Jennings
(23:43):
Rom Greg Jenny's on our show all the time. Rob,
he got recruited by Michigan State to play basketball. So
like Greg was a great player in Michigan where they
got Hoopers.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
He from played basketball too.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
He e Fron played basketball in college.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
So doesn't mean that they were going to make it
to the NBA.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
A lot of guys, but back then, a lot of
good athletes play multiple sports. It doesn't mean that they
were going to be And then for the most part,
people pick, you know, sports because they know what they're
really best in.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
It's funny I told you that, you know, or their
size or whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
You can look at what they think it's easier to
make it to the league.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think I told the story before about David Justice
went to college as on a basket to play basketball,
and they random Chris, they were doing the drills and
all that.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
He just he didn't want to do them.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And he went and he saw the baseball team over
there playing and just decided to go out for the.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Team and drinking beer and the dugout, you.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And and but he made it to the major league
because he a scout was at a game where he
hit two home runs out of the ballpark.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Chris, and that was it. That really is all he said.
That's how they're fantastic athletes. And so you know a
lot of them could you know, maybe play a different sport.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
But yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Interesting because beef is definitely in the air. I don't
know what's going on, right. I mean, you and I
have a show based on beef, The eyd Couple based
on debating and going out, and we don't go at
it like these these dudes are like.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You know what I mean, And it's so personal. I
just don't like, isn't it, Chris. It just seemed like
a real personal well and I'm.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Not gonna get on let's not get we can get
on a high horse maybe individually, but look, we see
two of our two journalists, one of us is a
great friend of ours, stephen A. And what I didn't
like that with him and with really, yeah, I don't
like that either.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
I mean it got it got ugly. I didn't like
that either.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Yeah, I agree, because I don't generally like I don't
see it as my place to.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I mean, get in beefs with other reports if.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You have an issue to me, if you want to
have a conversation privately, or you want to yell at
each other on the phone for five minutes, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
But the public part of it, I guess, is what
I have an issue.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
With, because at the end of the day, Rob, you're
entertaining people.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
You're just entertaining. And I don't mean like in a
good way.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Necessarily, No, right, people love that.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's like people are and sometimes people are
laughing at you. Sometimes people think it's ridiculous, but it's entertaining,
you know, and so you know. But I think ultimately
what I'm saying is I do think they're I think
it would be easier for some of these NBA players,
just a few, to move to the NFL. I think
(26:43):
of Anthony Edwards. I think I think Lebron Rob. I
think Lebron would have been a Hall of Fame football player.
Hatty chosen to go to the NFL because he was
phenomenal in high school. Ain't Ohio? Well, Ohio was a
football Ohio is not a basketball state. It's amazing that
(27:04):
Lebron came from Ohio because it's not like one of
the basketball hot.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Beds, but it is a football state.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
It is a hotbed football state, top probably seven in
the country as far as states and high school football.
And so for him to be dominant, and I know
the school he went to, they were dominant.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
Football school and basketball, but more so.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Football, and he was great. So I think he went
his speed, his size. He is one I think would
have been a Hall of Fame tight end or something
like that.
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