June 27, 2025 • 35 mins
Kelvin Washington and Rob G. (sitting in for Rob Parker) open hour 3 discussing the Jazz selecting Ace Bailey in the top five of the NBA draft despite him not wanting to go there. Then they react to recent comments from Mavs head coach Jason Kidd on the plan for Cooper Flagg. Raptors reporter Akil Augustine joins the show to break down the NBA draft and discuss Toronto's decision to part ways with longtime executive Masai Ujiri.
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is gone there. We'll talk about that and just some
of the moves the Raptors have made and how they're
going to be able to try and compete in the
Eastern Conference. So looking forward to that conversation as well.
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And it's also been great having Rob g feell in
as well. Man usually on the other side of the glass,
but he's here, Alex is here, Ians is here, and
Steve over here.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, Ian's there. Well, no you don't. You got two
of the biggest boxes of pizza I've ever seen in
my entire life. Right now?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
What why did I Why did I just spend one
two hundred and seventy five dollars on pizza?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Okay, might have egagerating a little bit. What the heck?
When did people? Did I have something? I'll tell you what.
Thank you for the pizza bout No, it ain't about that.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It's when the heck the pizza gets to put so
expensive that I miss something.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, you know, we're paying for the Mulberry experience. Mulberry
allegedly is like the best New York style pizza you
can get.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
On the West Coast. It is pretty good, can so
that's what you're paying for. You for the quality. I
can't last really good though.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Uh anyway, all right, so Rob g We've been talking
about Ace Bailey now started really last week. He's missed
out on some workouts. Then he puts out is his hitless?
By hitless, I mean I ain't playing for him. I
ain't playing for him. I don't want to go there.
His agent, who is more of a manager family friend,
is asking to be paid for interviews. This has just
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been a really strange last few weeks with a kid
was so good. Again, it wouldn't have been crazy if
he was the number one pick, if there wasn't the
likes of a Cooper Flag is sitting there. He's that talented,
ends up going fit to the Utah Jazz. But now
the reports are that he hasn't shown up for the
Jazz yet. We've already seen Cooper Flag. We've already seen
some other teams that have pictures and video and audio
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with their new new you know, rookie they're all excited about.
But Ace Bailey, it's just been an odd occurrence. And you,
my friend, already feel a particular way about it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I really do. And let's just update the story.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
According to Andy Larson in the first hour and he
hasp and his report here in the last thirty or
forty minutes or so that Bailey will report to you
all this weekend on Saturday, be with the team on Sunday.
Ideally press conference will be introductiond in sometimes Sunday afternoon,
maybe Monday morning. So we'll see, right, you know that
if he actually because in all honesty, when Walter Clayton
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got on that private jet, he should have been on
there too, So you know, we'll see if he actually
does make the.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Trip there this weekend. But having said all that, I'm already.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Convinced that As Bailey is going to be a capital
B bust and has nothing to do with his on
court talent, because to your point, just based on talent,
he is, if not neck and neck, but like right
there with Cooper Flag. As a high school senior, he
was number two in his class, right there with Cooper Flag.
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The expectation when he was being recruited is, hey, you
want to go to Kentucky, Do you want to go
to Kansas? Do you want to go to or like
pick your favorite blue blood. They all wanted Ace Bailey.
And what he did instead was it go to Rutgers.
No disrespect to Rutgers, but Rutgers is not what I
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would call a basketball powerhouse. What it tells me is
that Ace Bailey is not in the business of trying
to win championships. He's not in the business of trying
to advance a program or something bigger than himself what
he is looking to do. And this is not any
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kind of insult. This is not meant to be derogatory,
because there are a lot of athletes who are like this.
Ace Bailey is about Ace Bailey. I'm sure he would
like to win. I'm sure that you know, as a competitor,
you know you want to end when the buzzer sounds
your team has won, when the season's over, you would
like for your team to have won the championship, of course,
but priority number one for Ace Bailey is to get buckets.
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Is for Ace Bailey to sell the most jerseys. It's
for Ace Bailey to make the most money. So he
goes to Rutgers thinking, Hey, when I'm there, Dylan Harper's coming,
We're gonna get so much unimpeded action that we are
going to showcase ourselves and get taken high in the draft.
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Credit to him, it worked out. They both went in
the top five, but Rutgers playing in the Big Ten
last season with two top five draft picks, they were
fifteen to seventeen. Ace Bailey because he doesn't like to
pass the ball. That's not what he does, because he's
not looking to win games as part of a bigger group,
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as part of a team finished the year averaging seventeen
and seven on forty six thirty five sixty nine splits.
And all of the draft knicks who do this for
a living say, he's got all the tools, he's got
all the ability. What he has, though, is tunnel vision,
and he's gonna throw up some wild between two defenders
type shot because Ace Bailey needs to get a bucket.
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We have seen countless players in NBA history who were
like this. Some of them have been very successful doing it.
The problem, though, is you don't get that full fledged outlook,
that mindset, like fully developed until you've already been in
the league three, four or five years. Right, you've already
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kind of established yourself as a player, whether your team
was good or not. They saw that you could do something,
and then eventually you saw it play out.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
In real time. Like you know what.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I don't think James Harden is really about winning. I
think James just wants to pound the ball, get his
twenty five and twelve and play James Harden basketball. If
he wins, great, If not, I'm doing what I like
to do, which is pound the rock into oblivion and
then either score or pass the ball. Ace Bailey's doing
this before he even gets to the league, so I
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don't think he's gonna have that same kind of runway
like somebody before him would have had, where it's like, yeah,
he's kind of a black hole. But you know, he's
been doing the right thing. He's got his head down,
he's grinding. Grinding will give him a second contract, and
then by the time as the third card, then you
figure out that he's just that's he's.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Not a team player, right, He's Jordan Poole.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
He just want to get his Because Ace Bailey is
already getting off on such a bad foot, I think
that you're gonna see very quickly that Utah and Danny
Age you mentioned in the first hour that he's one
of the more you hard ass type executives in the league.
They're not gonna stand for this kind of stuff. He's
not even gonna be able to showcase his physical ability
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because he's gonna come in with the attitude like I
don't care about y'all, It's about me. And because of that,
I don't see him ever reaching his full potential. He's
not gonna get the same kind of leeway that he
probably should as a Hive draft pick, and eventually you're
gonna see maybe not this level of bust, but he's
gonna be like a Cam Reddish, where cam Reddish coming
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into Duke was I believe a top five prospect. The
idea was that he was gonna be, if not the
best player, one of the best players come out of
that class, and then he kind of just away. I
think the same is gonna happen with Day's Baby. I'm
gonna start, I'm gonna work backwards.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I disagree with that because I think cam Reddish had
a work ethic issue a in a heart and desire
where you saw the natural talent. He's the guy you're
watching a pickup game you like. I know, y'all say
he's a better player, but man, look at his dude
skill set. But then when it comes to everything else,
it takes to be a pro. And that's the part
a lot of kids don't understand. It ain't just you
can shoot. It ain't just you can dribble. It isn't
just you can pass. It's all the things that come
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to being a pro. It is your mentality. Can I
trust you? Can I trust you to make the team bus?
Can I trust you to not have a bad attitude
and bring everybody down when we lose. Can I want
you to be upset we lost, but also have the
right perspective and say, hey, it's eighty two games. We're
not gonna make. We're not gonna win every game. It's
a balance. It is how are you handling criticism? It's
how are your nutrition? How are you are you taking
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your rehab? You hear the first thing you always hear
about guys when you hear Lebron talk about it as
soon as the games are go, get my start working
on my rehab and making sure I'm doing everything where
I get my rest. It's all of that that goes
into a pro And I think sometimes people forget. They think,
is I'm just nice, I'm just good. I can just sing,
I can just wrap, I can just act. It's a
lot that goes into it. Because franchises are saying, if
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I'm handing you the keys of my franchise. If I'm
making you the face of my team, it's everything. It's quarterbacks, right.
The reason why people want their quarterbacks to be good
in front of the podium, they want them to be
able to be good in the meeting. And now I
have a lot of drama because you're the face of
this franchise. Now let's break down a few things you
just mentioned here. Enough So I disagree with that part.
I do because I think talent wise, hunger wise, work
ethic in the gym, I don't question that, and I
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think he'll have the talent. The question will be will
be a guy who gets what I call pointless points
where he's putting them eighteen a game on bad teams
for eight years and we don't even think about him anymore.
That to me can change if he has, if he
continues to be professional.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I'll explain a couple of things here for you, Rob G.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Number one, I think what you're looking at is the
problem with not the nil, but the mindset of the nil.
When I was coming and when I was listen playing
in high school, dude, we were trying to win. We
want to to beat our cross time rivals. We wanted
to beat the kids from the other blocks. We wanted
to beat that other school. We want to you know,
coming from the ann Arbor area. You want to beat Detroit,
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you want to beat sacking All. You want to beat Flint.
They always say they got the better players.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
No, we do. Let's make a name for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And now because of the ability to control everything, it's
become where let me make sure my mixtape is right,
let me make sure I look this way, let me
make sure I'm presented this way, which then turns to
let me control everything. And there's a hands on approach
to wanting to dominate and control everything. And I think
people are taking the LeVar Ball approach on steroids, you
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know what I mean, and try and do it their
own way, and I think it's backfiring on some people.
So when I look at an As Bailey, by all
accounts we're hearing, is a good kid. He works hard,
he's in the gym, basketball, he takes it very seriously.
But I'm gonna give you a quote here that I
want you to and this is for you everybody listening. Remember,
especially younger po folks and really all of us. Talent
is one thing, but having good counsel is one of
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the most underrated part of a person's journey. Shout out
to Jamal Crawford, who just put that out there. I'm
gonna say that again. Talent is one thing, but having
good counsel is one of the most underrated parts of
a person journey.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I'm gonna throw a few names out at you. Rob Parker,
you remember Ricky Williams. You just call me Rob Parker,
I mean Rob g that's the insult. Ye, yes, I
remember Ricky Williams.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Ricky Williams is coming out one of the best running backs.
Heisman Trophy. Were like, Oh, Ricky Woods is gonna be
the man in NFL. And what does he try to do.
He tries to get with Master P, who was the
hottest businessman as far as the music industry at the time.
He's trying to start an athletic agency and all that
he gets with him, he gets bad counsel on his
career and what does he do. He does this so
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don't even worry about the rookie scale and all that
pay me based off how good I'm about to be,
and he ends up getting jacked up. His first contract
is trash. He moves on from Master Pce Agency and
all that, but it was bad. Sometimes you can have
bad counsel. It's not that you're a bad person. Is
that you put Uncle Ray Ray in charge, or you
put my dad's guy who spent you know, a few
months in the business and now he's running this. So
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I don't think Ace Bailey is a bad kid. I
don't even I think the collective is trying to control
his destiny and they may be shooting themselves in the
foot by trying to do this.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So here's my thing as well.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He has an opportunity to finally relinquish the crips of
trying to control everything, like you mean, I'm gonna go
to Rucers.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I can do this.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm gona to this high school, I play with this
AAU team. He has a chance to finally say, you
know what, the goal was to get in the league,
and the goal is to dominate, to be the best
I can and let the chips fall what they may.
And I think him trying to well, I want to
go to Washington because I can go there. I could
be the guy and I can lead to Well, dude,
you can also go to Washington and be Jordan Poole,
Kyle Kuzma. You can also go to Washington and be
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a guy that just puts up point and said we
never care about or some other team. You want to
be a part of an organization that has an identity
that's going somewhere, that's building, and be a part of that,
a cog in that piece.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And to me, that's what I would encourage him.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
This portion of your life, roll what you can work out,
be on time, be a professional, stay in shape.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But you don't.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You can't control every single move because sometimes you will
make the bad decision.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Try and to override destiny.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
If you will override, Sometimes masterful things just happen, you
know what I mean. Sometimes things just fall in your
left I didn't know I was gonna go here. I
didn't know they were gonna bring this other player over here.
It worked out. Now we're balling and we've competed for
a couple of championships.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You don't know that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You never know how that's going to play out when
you're trying to control everything and hold it on locking.
We're only gonna do it this way, and there's no
other way to doing it. And you got some people
who've had some background issues leading you. So I would
just advise him to consider the council, consider who's around you,
because we've seen this before. Michael Vick was one of
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the most talented players that ever played college football, and
he has the wrong people around him, keeps the wrong
people from back home around him, and it brings him
down for a period of time. And we've seen this
happen before, and I just want the kid to be
able to maximize his talent and go and ball and
let the ball be the ball, you know what I mean.
Let that part play out. And it becomes difficult at
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times when you again, when you have the wrong people
around you and when your mindset is on the wrong things.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You're already coming in. Dude.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
You have no equity, you have no rapport, you haven't
built anything, and all you want to do is come
in and prove and I want to do this.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You can do that. I'm gonna give you last example
for me.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
This guy didn't win a Super Bowl, he didn't have
a ten to two record in the postseason. But I
remember when the Lions were just putrid O sixteen and
Matthew Stavord's tell no, I don't want to duck that Detroit.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I understand where they are, but I want to go
there and be a part of building this thing and
be a part of helping them turn this thing around.
And to me, he got there and they went to
the postseason a few times, and they had some solid
years to good years, and he had some big time
years himself, and he was a pro bowler. And it's like, dude,
it can happen in unexpected places if you allow it
to and if you do the work.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
So that would be what I would offer him. I
agree with everything you just said. Here goes Nicki minas
carnival size. But the only the problem is.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
To do what you're asking him to do require a
certain level of maturity that he has not shown at all.
And more importantly to what you said, the people around
him not shown it. Like a lot of pointed out
at Omar Cooper, who is the guy who's his manager,
is not his agent, He's just kind of the guy
advising him. You mentioned there were some allegations about his
past just quickly people don't know. In the nineteen nineties,
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he was charged with attempted murder and possession with attempt
to distribute cocaine on or by a school property. In
two thousand and three, he was indicted for possessing a
machine gun and a black short clip UZI. That's all
reported by NJ dot com. The other thing is Omar
Cooper's son, Sharif Cooper, which if you like college basketball,
you know that Shreve Cooper a couple of years ago
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was a bucket at Auburn. Do a little background research.
Sharif Cooper's story is eerily similar to what Ace Bailey
is doing right now. Five star recruit could have went
anywhere he wanted to in the country recruited by cal
but Meana Kentucky coach calab Party says, you know what,
I'm gonna go to Auburn. I'm gonna stay local because
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I'm gonna get buckets. Ends up going to the NBA.
I think after his sophomore season washed out a year
and a half later. I'm not saying he's gonna be
watched out a year and a half, but at some point,
you know, history kind of repeats itself, and I just
don't know if Ace Bailey is going to realize soon
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enough that he hastens himself from this situation that he
needs new advisors because quite frankly, what he's been doing
has worked. He got to the NBA, he's the top
five pick. He's got to guaranteed what thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Coming his way. So I don't know. I'm not optimistic.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Everything, and I have no problem with you not being optimistic.
Is history generally repeats itself if it's not changed. But
the only thing I would offer, and the hope is
that I do think there's enough people that will care
about the young man that he doesn't even know care
about how meaning I'm just an I mean this is
an extreme example, but hey, like to mention Jamal Crawford.
He randomly put this on his Instagram four hours ago.
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I think we know what it was about.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Jamal Crawford had a heck of a career by all accounts,
and he went to Michigan, so I won't say I knewhim,
but I saw him around town.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Great guy when I was. We were both there and
in are Bre at the same time. Avery Bradley's in UK,
Carlos Boozers in Utah.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
He has I think enough people And this is the
kind of thing we mentioned this We were talking about
Paige Becker's and kind of and and just speaking up
and wanted to be a part of people's lives, to
help people and offer love and hope. This is one
of those times I could absolutely see a Lebron shoot
a random text. This does not surprise me. This is
a Lebron somehow gets in them. Hey man, just wish
you out the best. But you know, keep some rhight
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people around you, see, I keep my crew. We grew together,
we learned the business, I got the you know, the
white guys around me. I absolutely can see. This is
where quietly Lebron was shooting, well not quietly because its Lebron,
we gonna know, but he shoots off a text. Got
the pune with little Bro. He's straight. He's straight now
we figured it out, but you get what I mean
where it's like, hey man, you know, just offering some advice.
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And I'm being ridiculously hopeful that that type of thing happened.
I hope it does happen. I would love to be
wrong with one other kid that I kind of, you know,
just were it was all right there and it kind
of fell apart in Moani Baits and he's in the league.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
He's with the cab.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
People want to even see more and hopefully he turned
this thing around, but a lot of things started didn't
make sense.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And you're like, what what?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And I believe in the money's you know, I'm hoping
he writes a ship and has an amazing career. But again,
we've seen where this has kind of happened, so we're
wishing him the best, all right to kill Augustine's getting
ready to join us in a little bit as well.
And then, by the way, if eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox, we talked about as Bailey for like
a week and a half or so, all this kind
of drama. If you want to jump in on this,
we want to open the lines for you. Eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. Do you think, like Rob
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G that he's going to be a bus Do you
think this is just gonna you know, he's just trying
to do his best and own in his career and
kind of be the one to dictate his career, which
you might think is a good thing. The player empowerment
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Let's take a
couple of calls on this. This diaka Robb G in
for Rob Parker Kevin Washington on the Funky Flashback Friday,
Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio. It's the Odd Couple.
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a great show thus far. Rob will be back on Monday.
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com for that. In just a few minutes, we'll be
joined by Akil Augustine, covers the Raptors on NBA TV
Canada for twenty plus years. Talk some hoops there, some
movement there, and other NBA storylines and Rob g Man
anything he would have put a quick button on.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Just a conversation as baby. Before we get over to Steve,
what's trending? Well, let me just say one quick thing.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I just got this tweet from at Ian Roddy Underscore
on Twitter. Okay, and he said, shout out to Rob
g for making this the blackest the Odd Couple has
ever been. We're celebrating blackness tonight. This is just false reporting.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Take any man. I appreciate it that what.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You're trying to say, because I'm like, I'm at least
four shades darker than Broussard.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You are that, and we're into a black hole. I'm
in with the think Parker, what does that say, I'm
darker than Chris? You are darker than you. Actually he
is actually like right on base with Chris. Yeah, Sam Brown,
but is the man? See there you go, Alex.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Let's say weal quick called Andre Massachusetts. You are on
with the Akabo Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Andre. What's up? Man?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Hey, what's going on? Thanks taking the call. Happy Friday.
I have to go along with the line of thinking.
I think what a barely needs is better representation, better
people around him. Frankly, I think Clutch sports would be
a great place for him because on the trajectory that
he's on. Now, let's talk about the Johnathan Vengers of
the world. Okay, talk about the Darius Miles in the world.
And for me, I'm dating myself, but I don't even mind.
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Reminds me of Lenny Cook.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Right player with the area.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Okay, years ago, you know the phenom you know it
was supposed to be Lenny cooking Lebron James, Right, Lenny
was a year older, okay, and one person became what
he did and the other was kind of like.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
The greatest that never was.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
So it is a little bit off putting that the
way that he's coming to the NBA, I think he's
frankly rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
And I just hope that.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
He gets the people around, because if nobody denies the talent,
the talent is clear. But of the three best players, himself,
Parker and Cooper Flag, both those other players have elite
intangibles and mindset to go along with their skill, and
he's just had that five star talent. But you know,
in terms of perspective, it's in the negative. So I'm
pulling for the kids. But as you all said, you know,
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it might be the NBA, but it could be the
NFL many.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Not for long.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Brase Bailey, thanks.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Taking a call, all right, Andre, Yeah, we all kind
of on the same page on that one.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Appreciate the cause always.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
All right, we're gonna get to kill Augustine just a
moment right now, Steven Seger's gonna get you set on
with trendon, Steve.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
There we go Hello there, I wanted to see. I
was trying to compliment him on the thanks for the pizza.
Couldn't get couldn't.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Even get it out over the air, Alee. Let me
get some shine here, Alex.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Now, we did have a superb game pitch by the
Saint Louis Cardinals starter on the road tonight, Sunny.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Gray spectacular, nearly perfect and one hitter.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He allowed one base lunner, five nothing. Saint Louis wins
at Cleveland. That was Apple TV with the call, Yeah,
complete game, one hitter These days, that alone is news.
Sunny Gray's eight and two for the Cardinals eleven strikeouts,
no walks tonight, and it only took eighty nine pitches
to finish this complete game. Philly's at Brave still in
a rain delay at the start. Giants now lead three
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to one at the White Sox in the bottom of
the six. Seattle ahead at Texas four to one in
the bottom of the fifth. Houston's great home team so
far this year. Houston up seven to one on the
Cubs top of the fifth. Houston Astros at home thirty
and thirteen. At Milwaukee, it's the Brewers six to one
over the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Top of the fifth.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
If Colorado loses, the Rockies will be eighteen and sixty
four this season. The Dodgers got a leadoff homer from
Shoeo Tanis twenty one, but now at Kansas City it's
Royals over the Dodgers four to three going to the
fifth inning. There are two late games coming up in
a few minutes, including the Angels hosting Washington. Angels manager
Ron Washington will remain on medical leave for the rest
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of the season. Blue Jays lead five nothing at Boston
top of the eighth, so the Red Sox steering a
sixth straight loss in the face at Cincinnati. It's the
Reds eight nothing over the Padres in the top of
the eighth, and the starter for Cincinnati, Nick Martinez, a
former Padre, is throwing a no hitter, five strikeouts, one
walk through seven ninety five pitches thrown. At the moment
(23:37):
as they're in the top of the eighth inning of
that one, the Rays were ahead six nothing at Baltimore
in the second inning. It's now Orioles eleven to seven
in the lead. In the top of the seventh, Yankee
still shutting out the A's three nothing top of the
ninth and at Pittsburgh Pirates nine to one over the
Mets in the bottom of the eighth among the five
WNBA games. Tonight, Indiana is at Dallas, but Caitlin Clark
(23:59):
is out again with a groin injury. Indiana was up
twenty after the first quarter. They're holding on eighty eight
eighty two at Dallas with under three minutes to go.
The Utah Jazz say first rounder Ace Bailey will report
on Saturday. Massaiu Cheery is out as president of the Raptors.
Minnesota's Nas Reed will reportedly re sign four years plus
a player option back team.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
All right, Steve Hay, have a wonderful weekend, my friend,
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It is the odd couple. Kelvin Washington, Rob g in
for Rob Who.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It will be back on Monday on a funky flashback Friday.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Thank you for hanging out with your boys.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
We're joined now by Akil Augustine, cover of the Raptors on
NBA TV Canada for twenty plus years. He joined us
now to talk about some movement, some things shaking up
there above the border or kill what's going on?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
And how you doing?
Speaker 6 (24:44):
I'm good man, How you doing well?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Rob g and I were just, you know, last hour
think it was we had our conversation about Messiah Jeri
and his tenure there thirteen years. I kind of said
we could split it up in halves. First half really
good exactly the year championship, a bunch of fifth you
win seasons. Second half, rob g he kind of let
them up with some of these moves and decisions and
trades and pickups that did not work out as well.
(25:09):
How do you overall rate his thirteen years there, I.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Think, I mean, yes, definitely you can divide it up
into the two chapters, but I think you have to
put right smack dab in the middle of that chapter,
obviously the Championship and then COVID, because I think sometimes
people forget the Raptors were the only teams that had
to leave their home city, state and function full time.
(25:34):
So it was a real odd situation for the entire
front office and organization. And if you think about the
relationships that kind of fractured or splintered post championship, a
lot of it happened in the bubble, right you talk
about stuff happening with Fred Pascal, A lot of that
(25:54):
happened while the Raptors had that really weird two year stretch,
and I think people forget that and don't understand. Also,
he's playing in a market unlike any other market. We
have the one market outside of the United States. So
all those things kind of significantly impacted how he could maneuver,
and I think they were hurdles that no one's ever
(26:14):
had too.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Incounerance sports, you bring.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Up great points that I didn't even consider.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And COVID through a monkey rinch in all of life,
you know, economically, socially, there's so many kids that struggle
through that. Physically, a lot of people are still sick
with long COVID. So you're right, COVID is something that
sometimes we forget that was a real thing and challenge
so much of our conventional ways.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, when you.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Think about Pascal had that you know, relationship thing with
Nick Nurse that happened around that time, friends, you know,
stuff with comments about Scottie Oh Scotti. Development kind of
messed up the timeline because you had this four pick
all of a sudden because you weren't the relevant team
in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
So yeah, just to back.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Up the point, Yeah, so a kill one of the
guys that we compared him to in the second hour.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Was pat Riley right.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Pat Riley came out with willing Westerns in Miami recently.
You know, it's been kind of tough sledding down there.
But one point that Kelvin brought up, which I thought
was a very sharp one, is what pat Riley has
going from in Miami is that the Arisons are not
selling the team they are in charge, and it's he
almost has that sweat equity already built up and that's
why he can keep making these ziccups or in this case,
(27:17):
he doesn't make any trades and then that he's fine.
How much of this with with Messiah Jerry is just
the new ownership group came in. They wanted a new
direction for the franchise, and the best way to do
it is to get rid of the previous regime.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
And the guy was in charge, I think it is.
I think him moving into the president role too.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Like listen, I'm not here to, like, you know, say
who's doing more.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Work, But I do believe the president role is very
different from the GM role, and so people assign, you know,
more weight to the GM role in the NBA. But
let me get to the point. You were talking about,
which was the fact that it's a very different ownership
situation here in Canada because when we had significantly lest millionaires, right,
so a lot of times kind of like how you
see with Boston and their sports group and what happens
(28:04):
what happened with the Lakers. We were owned by Mayple
Lice Sports and our tapers. I say wee because I've.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Been embedded with the team for so long. So Mayble
Sports Entertainment was a was.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
A collective owned by our two major sports networks, right,
our esp and our Fox Sports Net which is sports
Net and TSN. So it was really an odd situation
where two companies fighting for the rights to the lease
and the Raptors also owned the Leafs and the Raptors.
So people outside of the market don't get how strange
(28:34):
of a market it is.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Because there really is no competition.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
There's one horse in this race, right, MLSC if they
own the Raptors and the Leafs, the Dotal, the Blue Jays,
but they own all the other major properties, our CFL team,
our MLS team, right, So that group, it's a different
situation to navigate because you're not really with a single
billionaire owner where this is a vanity project that he
wants to win a championship. This is a business and
(28:59):
debt with multiple players, and I think that's something you
really have to consider, especially with all the reporting about
tension between one of the groups, Rogers and the Rogers
family and the Air and the Sun having with MASSI
all this was getting neared up publicly down here, and
I don't think you guys hear about that down south.
So there was a lot of peaces moving, especially with
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the purchase.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Kil Augustine.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
As our guests cover the Raptors, the NBA, TV and
Canada for twenty plus years, as you mentioned, used to
be embedded with the team.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
All that aside, okay, cool was great and Massia this
and new ownership of that. Now is time time to winning,
right and the East is wide open and this time,
actually Rob G and I were talking.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
They have talent.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You got Barns, you got Ingram, you got h Bart,
you got quickly, got some guys there and in East
that in it like the Big Three and Boston are
there the mid two thousands Pistons or Lebron sitting there?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So where do you where do you look at the
outlook for this upcoming season for them.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
It was kind of a shock.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
So a lot of us on the ground looking at
the team simply because they kind of with the hey baby,
my daughter's trying to get my attention to.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Hey listen, dude, we have five girls between the trust
me we do. We're right there with you.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
So the Ingram move kind of put us on notice
that this was you know, the rebuild was over or
the rejig was over, right, So it's kind of strange
that this move gets made now. But obviously the sale
just happened or was finalized at the beginning of the year,
so you kind of felt like the next shoe was
going to drop. But on the court, I think he's
putting the team in a really good position. I think
(30:35):
Bobby's like a lot of people look over Bobby around
the league because Masia's got such a big name, But
Bobby Webster.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
OURGM has done a good job, and I.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Think the changing landscape of the Eastern Conference gives this
team a bit of a boost.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
But I think the drafts really.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Hurt what we were expecting because then the nine pick
was not what the Raptors were expecting.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
As well as a couple of other teams.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Right, we're in the same bucket with Charlotte in.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
A couple of teams like those.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Those those draft ping pong balls really.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Hurt our progression. But I mean the team's in a
good spot.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
If you look at the Eastern Conference, there aren't too
many heavy hitters.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
With all these act Achilles injuries.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, so you mentioned those those five players again, Ingram quickly, Barrett,
Perl and Barns in a vacuum.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I think they're all very talented players.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
The problem is that the record hasn't really beared out
that way, whether because the injuries or or bar you know,
Ingram just got there.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
One thing we're seeing with this new NBA in the
second apron is if you have too many good players,
you better not get used to it, because they're going
to be gone. And in this year and next year,
that five some accounts for one hundred and fifty four
and one hundred and sixty three million dollars. I'm assuming
at least one of them is going to get traded
for some kind of cost cutting move. Which one do
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you see as the least likely to be part of
the corps moving forward?
Speaker 7 (31:51):
Well, the conversation online with the fans and with the
journalists are j Barrett. Which is sad when you think
about the year he just had for us, being by
far the most efficient player, a huge year, kind of
proving some of the things that the Knicks organizations has
said about him with the ball handling and creating and
obviously local kid. I've known the kid since he was born, right,
(32:12):
real goodness, his dad who actually runs Canada basketball. Yeah,
so it's like it's it sucks, but I don't think
it's like he's appealing. And that's the thing about this
NBA right appealing.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Contract move to quickly move.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
We signed him and the numbers haven't really gotten to
where people would say, okay, let's take that contract. Obviously, Scott,
he's untouchable, right so and in the Ingram deal, he
hasn't played a game yet. So yeah, sadly here in Toronto,
his home city, the conversation seems to be Argent looks
like the guy that would be moved.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, and you mentioned he was kind of had a resurgence,
if you will. Just at that moment we thought this
is what we thought he could be. And obviously he's
going to be looking forward to this next season. Hopefully
they can make some noise. We'll have to all wait
and see. Man, get back to your daughter, Keith, Augustine Brother,
appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
What's that guys? Thanks for having me now again.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
We know we know about that daughter life.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Oh yeah, you know it's funny too. Speaking of COVID
and speaking of daughters. Remember we were all in that
and I don't remember if this is exactly because of quarantine,
but that viral video of my man who was doing
a zoom and he was trying to have a serious
conversation with everything, and.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
With daughter walks in and the mom slides and trying to.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
The one the other one on the walker, like, ah,
this is bad, dude. We were living through some wild times.
And he brought up a great point in like it
affected the sports world. It's so much, I mean so
many different ways. I mean, things could have if we
don't have COVID. Dude, the Brooklyn Nets have a title,
they might you know what I mean? Do we have Kyrie,
(33:39):
James Harden and KD balling out of control if we
don't have COVID. Some people will say in the bubble,
the Lakers wouldn't get that ring. You know, some people say,
I don't believe it. I don't agree with that, but
that that's a narrative that will a lot of sports.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
They say, if we didn't have COVID, he never would
have saw Zach Wilson Trey lanmce get picked in the
top three picks, right because they played like eight games
and then it was no fans and.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
You're just kind of like, I guess he was good.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So so many different things came from that, and again
there's so much that we're just you know, we're still
a couple of years, two and a half years of
whatever it is, removed from it, that we haven't been
able to dissect so much of our society. I'm talking
about economically, the the long COVID, just what it's done.
It did so much to teenagers, man, the data and
these kids who are suffering loneliness. Robbie senior year, I
(34:25):
couldn't go to prom, supposed to go on this state
championship running my football team. The basketball team got canceled,
and you see a lot of kids I remember, you know,
I do a lot of mentorship and I'm I'm a
board a director on this nonprofit and it's for youth
in underprivileged youth out here in southern California. And my
point is, I remember hosting an event is right when
we're coming out of COVID, and Rob G. You remember
(34:47):
in high school, if I were to be like, what
high school did you do? You have to tell me,
but what do you're high?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So if I said we got the mean gads up here,
now we got Whitny Robin, dude, I'm we got such
and such.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
We can do.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm looking in their eyes. They were lost. It was
rough Man rough Pierce. I said all that to say
he's right that we kind of just move on, move on,
move on. But COVID was a strange, strange time. The
entire world stop. Yeah, it's hard to believe, all right.
Last call eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox, We're gonna take another call.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
We'll take one more before we get out of here.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
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is gone there. We'll talk about that and just some
of the moves the Raptors have made and how they're
going to be able to try and compete in the
Eastern Conference. So looking forward to that conversation as well.
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And it's also been great having Rob g feell in
as well. Man usually on the other side of the glass,
but he's here, Alex is here, Ians is here, and
Steve over here.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, Ian's there. Well, no you don't. You got two
of the biggest boxes of pizza I've ever seen in
my entire life. Right now?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
What why did I Why did I just spend one
two hundred and seventy five dollars on pizza?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Okay, might have egagerating a little bit. What the heck?
When did people? Did I have something? I'll tell you what.
Thank you for the pizza bout No, it ain't about that.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
It's when the heck the pizza gets to put so
expensive that I miss something.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, you know, we're paying for the Mulberry experience. Mulberry
allegedly is like the best New York style pizza you
can get.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
On the West Coast. It is pretty good, can so
that's what you're paying for. You for the quality. I
can't last really good though.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Uh anyway, all right, so Rob g We've been talking
about Ace Bailey now started really last week. He's missed
out on some workouts. Then he puts out is his hitless?
By hitless, I mean I ain't playing for him. I
ain't playing for him. I don't want to go there.
His agent, who is more of a manager family friend,
is asking to be paid for interviews. This has just
(02:17):
been a really strange last few weeks with a kid
was so good. Again, it wouldn't have been crazy if
he was the number one pick, if there wasn't the
likes of a Cooper Flag is sitting there. He's that talented,
ends up going fit to the Utah Jazz. But now
the reports are that he hasn't shown up for the
Jazz yet. We've already seen Cooper Flag. We've already seen
some other teams that have pictures and video and audio
(02:38):
with their new new you know, rookie they're all excited about.
But Ace Bailey, it's just been an odd occurrence. And you,
my friend, already feel a particular way about it.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I really do. And let's just update the story.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
According to Andy Larson in the first hour and he
hasp and his report here in the last thirty or
forty minutes or so that Bailey will report to you
all this weekend on Saturday, be with the team on Sunday.
Ideally press conference will be introductiond in sometimes Sunday afternoon,
maybe Monday morning. So we'll see, right, you know that
if he actually because in all honesty, when Walter Clayton
(03:13):
got on that private jet, he should have been on
there too, So you know, we'll see if he actually
does make the.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Trip there this weekend. But having said all that, I'm already.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Convinced that As Bailey is going to be a capital
B bust and has nothing to do with his on
court talent, because to your point, just based on talent,
he is, if not neck and neck, but like right
there with Cooper Flag. As a high school senior, he
was number two in his class, right there with Cooper Flag.
(03:44):
The expectation when he was being recruited is, hey, you
want to go to Kentucky, Do you want to go
to Kansas? Do you want to go to or like
pick your favorite blue blood. They all wanted Ace Bailey.
And what he did instead was it go to Rutgers.
No disrespect to Rutgers, but Rutgers is not what I
(04:04):
would call a basketball powerhouse. What it tells me is
that Ace Bailey is not in the business of trying
to win championships. He's not in the business of trying
to advance a program or something bigger than himself what
he is looking to do. And this is not any
(04:27):
kind of insult. This is not meant to be derogatory,
because there are a lot of athletes who are like this.
Ace Bailey is about Ace Bailey. I'm sure he would
like to win. I'm sure that you know, as a competitor,
you know you want to end when the buzzer sounds
your team has won, when the season's over, you would
like for your team to have won the championship, of course,
but priority number one for Ace Bailey is to get buckets.
(04:52):
Is for Ace Bailey to sell the most jerseys. It's
for Ace Bailey to make the most money. So he
goes to Rutgers thinking, Hey, when I'm there, Dylan Harper's coming,
We're gonna get so much unimpeded action that we are
going to showcase ourselves and get taken high in the draft.
(05:12):
Credit to him, it worked out. They both went in
the top five, but Rutgers playing in the Big Ten
last season with two top five draft picks, they were
fifteen to seventeen. Ace Bailey because he doesn't like to
pass the ball. That's not what he does, because he's
not looking to win games as part of a bigger group,
(05:34):
as part of a team finished the year averaging seventeen
and seven on forty six thirty five sixty nine splits.
And all of the draft knicks who do this for
a living say, he's got all the tools, he's got
all the ability. What he has, though, is tunnel vision,
and he's gonna throw up some wild between two defenders
type shot because Ace Bailey needs to get a bucket.
(05:59):
We have seen countless players in NBA history who were
like this. Some of them have been very successful doing it.
The problem, though, is you don't get that full fledged outlook,
that mindset, like fully developed until you've already been in
the league three, four or five years. Right, you've already
(06:20):
kind of established yourself as a player, whether your team
was good or not. They saw that you could do something,
and then eventually you saw it play out.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
In real time. Like you know what.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I don't think James Harden is really about winning. I
think James just wants to pound the ball, get his
twenty five and twelve and play James Harden basketball. If
he wins, great, If not, I'm doing what I like
to do, which is pound the rock into oblivion and
then either score or pass the ball. Ace Bailey's doing
this before he even gets to the league, so I
(06:49):
don't think he's gonna have that same kind of runway
like somebody before him would have had, where it's like, yeah,
he's kind of a black hole. But you know, he's
been doing the right thing. He's got his head down,
he's grinding. Grinding will give him a second contract, and
then by the time as the third card, then you
figure out that he's just that's he's.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Not a team player, right, He's Jordan Poole.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
He just want to get his Because Ace Bailey is
already getting off on such a bad foot, I think
that you're gonna see very quickly that Utah and Danny
Age you mentioned in the first hour that he's one
of the more you hard ass type executives in the league.
They're not gonna stand for this kind of stuff. He's
not even gonna be able to showcase his physical ability
(07:29):
because he's gonna come in with the attitude like I
don't care about y'all, It's about me. And because of that,
I don't see him ever reaching his full potential. He's
not gonna get the same kind of leeway that he
probably should as a Hive draft pick, and eventually you're
gonna see maybe not this level of bust, but he's
gonna be like a Cam Reddish, where cam Reddish coming
(07:50):
into Duke was I believe a top five prospect. The
idea was that he was gonna be, if not the
best player, one of the best players come out of
that class, and then he kind of just away. I
think the same is gonna happen with Day's Baby. I'm
gonna start, I'm gonna work backwards.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I disagree with that because I think cam Reddish had
a work ethic issue a in a heart and desire
where you saw the natural talent. He's the guy you're
watching a pickup game you like. I know, y'all say
he's a better player, but man, look at his dude
skill set. But then when it comes to everything else,
it takes to be a pro. And that's the part
a lot of kids don't understand. It ain't just you
can shoot. It ain't just you can dribble. It isn't
just you can pass. It's all the things that come
(08:27):
to being a pro. It is your mentality. Can I
trust you? Can I trust you to make the team bus?
Can I trust you to not have a bad attitude
and bring everybody down when we lose. Can I want
you to be upset we lost, but also have the
right perspective and say, hey, it's eighty two games. We're
not gonna make. We're not gonna win every game. It's
a balance. It is how are you handling criticism? It's
how are your nutrition? How are you are you taking
(08:47):
your rehab? You hear the first thing you always hear
about guys when you hear Lebron talk about it as
soon as the games are go, get my start working
on my rehab and making sure I'm doing everything where
I get my rest. It's all of that that goes
into a pro And I think sometimes people forget. They think,
is I'm just nice, I'm just good. I can just sing,
I can just wrap, I can just act. It's a
lot that goes into it. Because franchises are saying, if
(09:09):
I'm handing you the keys of my franchise. If I'm
making you the face of my team, it's everything. It's quarterbacks, right.
The reason why people want their quarterbacks to be good
in front of the podium, they want them to be
able to be good in the meeting. And now I
have a lot of drama because you're the face of
this franchise. Now let's break down a few things you
just mentioned here. Enough So I disagree with that part.
I do because I think talent wise, hunger wise, work
ethic in the gym, I don't question that, and I
(09:30):
think he'll have the talent. The question will be will
be a guy who gets what I call pointless points
where he's putting them eighteen a game on bad teams
for eight years and we don't even think about him anymore.
That to me can change if he has, if he
continues to be professional.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I'll explain a couple of things here for you, Rob G.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Number one, I think what you're looking at is the
problem with not the nil, but the mindset of the nil.
When I was coming and when I was listen playing
in high school, dude, we were trying to win. We
want to to beat our cross time rivals. We wanted
to beat the kids from the other blocks. We wanted
to beat that other school. We want to you know,
coming from the ann Arbor area. You want to beat Detroit,
(10:07):
you want to beat sacking All. You want to beat Flint.
They always say they got the better players.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
No, we do. Let's make a name for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And now because of the ability to control everything, it's
become where let me make sure my mixtape is right,
let me make sure I look this way, let me
make sure I'm presented this way, which then turns to
let me control everything. And there's a hands on approach
to wanting to dominate and control everything. And I think
people are taking the LeVar Ball approach on steroids, you
(10:37):
know what I mean, and try and do it their
own way, and I think it's backfiring on some people.
So when I look at an As Bailey, by all
accounts we're hearing, is a good kid. He works hard,
he's in the gym, basketball, he takes it very seriously.
But I'm gonna give you a quote here that I
want you to and this is for you everybody listening. Remember,
especially younger po folks and really all of us. Talent
is one thing, but having good counsel is one of
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the most underrated part of a person's journey. Shout out
to Jamal Crawford, who just put that out there. I'm
gonna say that again. Talent is one thing, but having
good counsel is one of the most underrated parts of
a person journey.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I'm gonna throw a few names out at you. Rob Parker,
you remember Ricky Williams. You just call me Rob Parker,
I mean Rob g that's the insult. Ye, yes, I
remember Ricky Williams.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Ricky Williams is coming out one of the best running backs.
Heisman Trophy. Were like, Oh, Ricky Woods is gonna be
the man in NFL. And what does he try to do.
He tries to get with Master P, who was the
hottest businessman as far as the music industry at the time.
He's trying to start an athletic agency and all that
he gets with him, he gets bad counsel on his
career and what does he do. He does this so
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don't even worry about the rookie scale and all that
pay me based off how good I'm about to be,
and he ends up getting jacked up. His first contract
is trash. He moves on from Master Pce Agency and
all that, but it was bad. Sometimes you can have
bad counsel. It's not that you're a bad person. Is
that you put Uncle Ray Ray in charge, or you
put my dad's guy who spent you know, a few
months in the business and now he's running this. So
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I don't think Ace Bailey is a bad kid. I
don't even I think the collective is trying to control
his destiny and they may be shooting themselves in the
foot by trying to do this.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So here's my thing as well.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He has an opportunity to finally relinquish the crips of
trying to control everything, like you mean, I'm gonna go
to Rucers.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
I can do this.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm gona to this high school, I play with this
AAU team. He has a chance to finally say, you
know what, the goal was to get in the league,
and the goal is to dominate, to be the best
I can and let the chips fall what they may.
And I think him trying to well, I want to
go to Washington because I can go there. I could
be the guy and I can lead to Well, dude,
you can also go to Washington and be Jordan Poole,
Kyle Kuzma. You can also go to Washington and be
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a guy that just puts up point and said we
never care about or some other team. You want to
be a part of an organization that has an identity
that's going somewhere, that's building, and be a part of that,
a cog in that piece.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
And to me, that's what I would encourage him.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
This portion of your life, roll what you can work out,
be on time, be a professional, stay in shape.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But you don't.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You can't control every single move because sometimes you will
make the bad decision.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Try and to override destiny.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
If you will override, Sometimes masterful things just happen, you
know what I mean. Sometimes things just fall in your
left I didn't know I was gonna go here. I
didn't know they were gonna bring this other player over here.
It worked out. Now we're balling and we've competed for
a couple of championships.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You don't know that.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You never know how that's going to play out when
you're trying to control everything and hold it on locking.
We're only gonna do it this way, and there's no
other way to doing it. And you got some people
who've had some background issues leading you. So I would
just advise him to consider the council, consider who's around you,
because we've seen this before. Michael Vick was one of
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the most talented players that ever played college football, and
he has the wrong people around him, keeps the wrong
people from back home around him, and it brings him
down for a period of time. And we've seen this
happen before, and I just want the kid to be
able to maximize his talent and go and ball and
let the ball be the ball, you know what I mean.
Let that part play out. And it becomes difficult at
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times when you again, when you have the wrong people
around you and when your mindset is on the wrong things.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You're already coming in. Dude.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
You have no equity, you have no rapport, you haven't
built anything, and all you want to do is come
in and prove and I want to do this.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You can do that. I'm gonna give you last example
for me.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
This guy didn't win a Super Bowl, he didn't have
a ten to two record in the postseason. But I
remember when the Lions were just putrid O sixteen and
Matthew Stavord's tell no, I don't want to duck that Detroit.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I understand where they are, but I want to go
there and be a part of building this thing and
be a part of helping them turn this thing around.
And to me, he got there and they went to
the postseason a few times, and they had some solid
years to good years, and he had some big time
years himself, and he was a pro bowler. And it's like, dude,
it can happen in unexpected places if you allow it
to and if you do the work.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
So that would be what I would offer him. I
agree with everything you just said. Here goes Nicki minas
carnival size. But the only the problem is.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
To do what you're asking him to do require a
certain level of maturity that he has not shown at all.
And more importantly to what you said, the people around
him not shown it. Like a lot of pointed out
at Omar Cooper, who is the guy who's his manager,
is not his agent, He's just kind of the guy
advising him. You mentioned there were some allegations about his
past just quickly people don't know. In the nineteen nineties,
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he was charged with attempted murder and possession with attempt
to distribute cocaine on or by a school property. In
two thousand and three, he was indicted for possessing a
machine gun and a black short clip UZI. That's all
reported by NJ dot com. The other thing is Omar
Cooper's son, Sharif Cooper, which if you like college basketball,
you know that Shreve Cooper a couple of years ago
(15:45):
was a bucket at Auburn. Do a little background research.
Sharif Cooper's story is eerily similar to what Ace Bailey
is doing right now. Five star recruit could have went
anywhere he wanted to in the country recruited by cal
but Meana Kentucky coach calab Party says, you know what,
I'm gonna go to Auburn. I'm gonna stay local because
(16:05):
I'm gonna get buckets. Ends up going to the NBA.
I think after his sophomore season washed out a year
and a half later. I'm not saying he's gonna be
watched out a year and a half, but at some point,
you know, history kind of repeats itself, and I just
don't know if Ace Bailey is going to realize soon
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enough that he hastens himself from this situation that he
needs new advisors because quite frankly, what he's been doing
has worked. He got to the NBA, he's the top
five pick. He's got to guaranteed what thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Coming his way. So I don't know. I'm not optimistic.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Everything, and I have no problem with you not being optimistic.
Is history generally repeats itself if it's not changed. But
the only thing I would offer, and the hope is
that I do think there's enough people that will care
about the young man that he doesn't even know care
about how meaning I'm just an I mean this is
an extreme example, but hey, like to mention Jamal Crawford.
He randomly put this on his Instagram four hours ago.
(17:03):
I think we know what it was about.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Jamal Crawford had a heck of a career by all accounts,
and he went to Michigan, so I won't say I knewhim,
but I saw him around town.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Great guy when I was. We were both there and
in are Bre at the same time. Avery Bradley's in UK,
Carlos Boozers in Utah.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
He has I think enough people And this is the
kind of thing we mentioned this We were talking about
Paige Becker's and kind of and and just speaking up
and wanted to be a part of people's lives, to
help people and offer love and hope. This is one
of those times I could absolutely see a Lebron shoot
a random text. This does not surprise me. This is
a Lebron somehow gets in them. Hey man, just wish
you out the best. But you know, keep some rhight
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people around you, see, I keep my crew. We grew together,
we learned the business, I got the you know, the
white guys around me. I absolutely can see. This is
where quietly Lebron was shooting, well not quietly because its Lebron,
we gonna know, but he shoots off a text. Got
the pune with little Bro. He's straight. He's straight now
we figured it out, but you get what I mean
where it's like, hey man, you know, just offering some advice.
(18:01):
And I'm being ridiculously hopeful that that type of thing happened.
I hope it does happen. I would love to be
wrong with one other kid that I kind of, you know,
just were it was all right there and it kind
of fell apart in Moani Baits and he's in the league.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
He's with the cab.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
People want to even see more and hopefully he turned
this thing around, but a lot of things started didn't
make sense.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And you're like, what what?
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And I believe in the money's you know, I'm hoping
he writes a ship and has an amazing career. But again,
we've seen where this has kind of happened, so we're
wishing him the best, all right to kill Augustine's getting
ready to join us in a little bit as well.
And then, by the way, if eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox, we talked about as Bailey for like
a week and a half or so, all this kind
of drama. If you want to jump in on this,
we want to open the lines for you. Eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox. Do you think, like Rob
(18:43):
G that he's going to be a bus Do you
think this is just gonna you know, he's just trying
to do his best and own in his career and
kind of be the one to dictate his career, which
you might think is a good thing. The player empowerment
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Let's take a
couple of calls on this. This diaka Robb G in
for Rob Parker Kevin Washington on the Funky Flashback Friday,
Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio. It's the Odd Couple.
(19:07):
Rob Parker is not here. Rob g is in. Been
a great show thus far. Rob will be back on Monday.
Kelvin Washington, thank you for hanging out with us. If
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com for that. In just a few minutes, we'll be
joined by Akil Augustine, covers the Raptors on NBA TV
Canada for twenty plus years. Talk some hoops there, some
movement there, and other NBA storylines and Rob g Man
anything he would have put a quick button on.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Just a conversation as baby. Before we get over to Steve,
what's trending? Well, let me just say one quick thing.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I just got this tweet from at Ian Roddy Underscore
on Twitter. Okay, and he said, shout out to Rob
g for making this the blackest the Odd Couple has
ever been. We're celebrating blackness tonight. This is just false reporting.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Take any man. I appreciate it that what.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
You're trying to say, because I'm like, I'm at least
four shades darker than Broussard.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You are that, and we're into a black hole. I'm
in with the think Parker, what does that say, I'm
darker than Chris? You are darker than you. Actually he
is actually like right on base with Chris. Yeah, Sam Brown,
but is the man? See there you go, Alex.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Let's say weal quick called Andre Massachusetts. You are on
with the Akabo Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Andre. What's up? Man?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Hey, what's going on? Thanks taking the call. Happy Friday.
I have to go along with the line of thinking.
I think what a barely needs is better representation, better
people around him. Frankly, I think Clutch sports would be
a great place for him because on the trajectory that
he's on. Now, let's talk about the Johnathan Vengers of
the world. Okay, talk about the Darius Miles in the world.
And for me, I'm dating myself, but I don't even mind.
(20:52):
Reminds me of Lenny Cook.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Right player with the area.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Okay, years ago, you know the phenom you know it
was supposed to be Lenny cooking Lebron James, Right, Lenny
was a year older, okay, and one person became what
he did and the other was kind of like.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
The greatest that never was.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
So it is a little bit off putting that the
way that he's coming to the NBA, I think he's
frankly rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
And I just hope that.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
He gets the people around, because if nobody denies the talent,
the talent is clear. But of the three best players, himself,
Parker and Cooper Flag, both those other players have elite
intangibles and mindset to go along with their skill, and
he's just had that five star talent. But you know,
in terms of perspective, it's in the negative. So I'm
pulling for the kids. But as you all said, you know,
(21:36):
it might be the NBA, but it could be the
NFL many.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Not for long.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Brase Bailey, thanks.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Taking a call, all right, Andre, Yeah, we all kind
of on the same page on that one.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Appreciate the cause always.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
All right, we're gonna get to kill Augustine just a
moment right now, Steven Seger's gonna get you set on
with trendon, Steve.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
There we go Hello there, I wanted to see. I
was trying to compliment him on the thanks for the pizza.
Couldn't get couldn't.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Even get it out over the air, Alee. Let me
get some shine here, Alex.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Now, we did have a superb game pitch by the
Saint Louis Cardinals starter on the road tonight, Sunny.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Gray spectacular, nearly perfect and one hitter.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
He allowed one base lunner, five nothing. Saint Louis wins
at Cleveland. That was Apple TV with the call, Yeah,
complete game, one hitter These days, that alone is news.
Sunny Gray's eight and two for the Cardinals eleven strikeouts,
no walks tonight, and it only took eighty nine pitches
to finish this complete game. Philly's at Brave still in
a rain delay at the start. Giants now lead three
(22:34):
to one at the White Sox in the bottom of
the six. Seattle ahead at Texas four to one in
the bottom of the fifth. Houston's great home team so
far this year. Houston up seven to one on the
Cubs top of the fifth. Houston Astros at home thirty
and thirteen. At Milwaukee, it's the Brewers six to one
over the Rockies.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Top of the fifth.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
If Colorado loses, the Rockies will be eighteen and sixty
four this season. The Dodgers got a leadoff homer from
Shoeo Tanis twenty one, but now at Kansas City it's
Royals over the Dodgers four to three going to the
fifth inning. There are two late games coming up in
a few minutes, including the Angels hosting Washington. Angels manager
Ron Washington will remain on medical leave for the rest
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of the season. Blue Jays lead five nothing at Boston
top of the eighth, so the Red Sox steering a
sixth straight loss in the face at Cincinnati. It's the
Reds eight nothing over the Padres in the top of
the eighth, and the starter for Cincinnati, Nick Martinez, a
former Padre, is throwing a no hitter, five strikeouts, one
walk through seven ninety five pitches thrown. At the moment
(23:37):
as they're in the top of the eighth inning of
that one, the Rays were ahead six nothing at Baltimore
in the second inning. It's now Orioles eleven to seven
in the lead. In the top of the seventh, Yankee
still shutting out the A's three nothing top of the
ninth and at Pittsburgh Pirates nine to one over the
Mets in the bottom of the eighth among the five
WNBA games. Tonight, Indiana is at Dallas, but Caitlin Clark
(23:59):
is out again with a groin injury. Indiana was up
twenty after the first quarter. They're holding on eighty eight
eighty two at Dallas with under three minutes to go.
The Utah Jazz say first rounder Ace Bailey will report
on Saturday. Massaiu Cheery is out as president of the Raptors.
Minnesota's Nas Reed will reportedly re sign four years plus
a player option back team.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
All right, Steve Hay, have a wonderful weekend, my friend,
appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It is the odd couple. Kelvin Washington, Rob g in
for Rob Who.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It will be back on Monday on a funky flashback Friday.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Thank you for hanging out with your boys.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
We're joined now by Akil Augustine, cover of the Raptors on
NBA TV Canada for twenty plus years. He joined us
now to talk about some movement, some things shaking up
there above the border or kill what's going on?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
And how you doing?
Speaker 6 (24:44):
I'm good man, How you doing well?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Rob g and I were just, you know, last hour
think it was we had our conversation about Messiah Jeri
and his tenure there thirteen years. I kind of said
we could split it up in halves. First half really
good exactly the year championship, a bunch of fifth you
win seasons. Second half, rob g he kind of let
them up with some of these moves and decisions and
trades and pickups that did not work out as well.
(25:09):
How do you overall rate his thirteen years there, I.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Think, I mean, yes, definitely you can divide it up
into the two chapters, but I think you have to
put right smack dab in the middle of that chapter,
obviously the Championship and then COVID, because I think sometimes
people forget the Raptors were the only teams that had
to leave their home city, state and function full time.
(25:34):
So it was a real odd situation for the entire
front office and organization. And if you think about the
relationships that kind of fractured or splintered post championship, a
lot of it happened in the bubble, right you talk
about stuff happening with Fred Pascal, A lot of that
(25:54):
happened while the Raptors had that really weird two year stretch,
and I think people forget that and don't understand. Also,
he's playing in a market unlike any other market. We
have the one market outside of the United States. So
all those things kind of significantly impacted how he could maneuver,
and I think they were hurdles that no one's ever
(26:14):
had too.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Incounerance sports, you bring.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Up great points that I didn't even consider.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And COVID through a monkey rinch in all of life,
you know, economically, socially, there's so many kids that struggle
through that. Physically, a lot of people are still sick
with long COVID. So you're right, COVID is something that
sometimes we forget that was a real thing and challenge
so much of our conventional ways.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Yeah, when you.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
Think about Pascal had that you know, relationship thing with
Nick Nurse that happened around that time, friends, you know,
stuff with comments about Scottie Oh Scotti. Development kind of
messed up the timeline because you had this four pick
all of a sudden because you weren't the relevant team
in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
So yeah, just to back.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Up the point, Yeah, so a kill one of the
guys that we compared him to in the second hour.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Was pat Riley right.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Pat Riley came out with willing Westerns in Miami recently.
You know, it's been kind of tough sledding down there.
But one point that Kelvin brought up, which I thought
was a very sharp one, is what pat Riley has
going from in Miami is that the Arisons are not
selling the team they are in charge, and it's he
almost has that sweat equity already built up and that's
why he can keep making these ziccups or in this case,
(27:17):
he doesn't make any trades and then that he's fine.
How much of this with with Messiah Jerry is just
the new ownership group came in. They wanted a new
direction for the franchise, and the best way to do
it is to get rid of the previous regime.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
And the guy was in charge, I think it is.
I think him moving into the president role too.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Like listen, I'm not here to, like, you know, say
who's doing more.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Work, But I do believe the president role is very
different from the GM role, and so people assign, you know,
more weight to the GM role in the NBA. But
let me get to the point. You were talking about,
which was the fact that it's a very different ownership
situation here in Canada because when we had significantly lest millionaires, right,
so a lot of times kind of like how you
see with Boston and their sports group and what happens
(28:04):
what happened with the Lakers. We were owned by Mayple
Lice Sports and our tapers. I say wee because I've.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
Been embedded with the team for so long. So Mayble
Sports Entertainment was a was.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
A collective owned by our two major sports networks, right,
our esp and our Fox Sports Net which is sports
Net and TSN. So it was really an odd situation
where two companies fighting for the rights to the lease
and the Raptors also owned the Leafs and the Raptors.
So people outside of the market don't get how strange
(28:34):
of a market it is.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
Because there really is no competition.
Speaker 7 (28:37):
There's one horse in this race, right, MLSC if they
own the Raptors and the Leafs, the Dotal, the Blue Jays,
but they own all the other major properties, our CFL team,
our MLS team, right, So that group, it's a different
situation to navigate because you're not really with a single
billionaire owner where this is a vanity project that he
wants to win a championship. This is a business and
(28:59):
debt with multiple players, and I think that's something you
really have to consider, especially with all the reporting about
tension between one of the groups, Rogers and the Rogers
family and the Air and the Sun having with MASSI
all this was getting neared up publicly down here, and
I don't think you guys hear about that down south.
So there was a lot of peaces moving, especially with
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the purchase.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Kil Augustine.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
As our guests cover the Raptors, the NBA, TV and
Canada for twenty plus years, as you mentioned, used to
be embedded with the team.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
All that aside, okay, cool was great and Massia this
and new ownership of that. Now is time time to winning,
right and the East is wide open and this time,
actually Rob G and I were talking.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
They have talent.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
You got Barns, you got Ingram, you got h Bart,
you got quickly, got some guys there and in East
that in it like the Big Three and Boston are
there the mid two thousands Pistons or Lebron sitting there?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So where do you where do you look at the
outlook for this upcoming season for them.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
It was kind of a shock.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
So a lot of us on the ground looking at
the team simply because they kind of with the hey baby,
my daughter's trying to get my attention to.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Hey listen, dude, we have five girls between the trust
me we do. We're right there with you.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
So the Ingram move kind of put us on notice
that this was you know, the rebuild was over or
the rejig was over, right, So it's kind of strange
that this move gets made now. But obviously the sale
just happened or was finalized at the beginning of the year,
so you kind of felt like the next shoe was
going to drop. But on the court, I think he's
putting the team in a really good position. I think
(30:35):
Bobby's like a lot of people look over Bobby around
the league because Masia's got such a big name, But
Bobby Webster.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
OURGM has done a good job, and I.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
Think the changing landscape of the Eastern Conference gives this
team a bit of a boost.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
But I think the drafts really.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
Hurt what we were expecting because then the nine pick
was not what the Raptors were expecting.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
As well as a couple of other teams.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Right, we're in the same bucket with Charlotte in.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
A couple of teams like those.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Those those draft ping pong balls really.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
Hurt our progression. But I mean the team's in a
good spot.
Speaker 7 (31:08):
If you look at the Eastern Conference, there aren't too
many heavy hitters.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
With all these act Achilles injuries.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, so you mentioned those those five players again, Ingram quickly, Barrett,
Perl and Barns in a vacuum.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I think they're all very talented players.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
The problem is that the record hasn't really beared out
that way, whether because the injuries or or bar you know,
Ingram just got there.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
One thing we're seeing with this new NBA in the
second apron is if you have too many good players,
you better not get used to it, because they're going
to be gone. And in this year and next year,
that five some accounts for one hundred and fifty four
and one hundred and sixty three million dollars. I'm assuming
at least one of them is going to get traded
for some kind of cost cutting move. Which one do
(31:47):
you see as the least likely to be part of
the corps moving forward?
Speaker 7 (31:51):
Well, the conversation online with the fans and with the
journalists are j Barrett. Which is sad when you think
about the year he just had for us, being by
far the most efficient player, a huge year, kind of
proving some of the things that the Knicks organizations has
said about him with the ball handling and creating and
obviously local kid. I've known the kid since he was born, right,
(32:12):
real goodness, his dad who actually runs Canada basketball. Yeah,
so it's like it's it sucks, but I don't think
it's like he's appealing. And that's the thing about this
NBA right appealing.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Contract move to quickly move.
Speaker 7 (32:25):
We signed him and the numbers haven't really gotten to
where people would say, okay, let's take that contract. Obviously, Scott,
he's untouchable, right so and in the Ingram deal, he
hasn't played a game yet. So yeah, sadly here in Toronto,
his home city, the conversation seems to be Argent looks
like the guy that would be moved.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, and you mentioned he was kind of had a resurgence,
if you will. Just at that moment we thought this
is what we thought he could be. And obviously he's
going to be looking forward to this next season. Hopefully
they can make some noise. We'll have to all wait
and see. Man, get back to your daughter, Keith, Augustine Brother,
appreciate your time.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
What's that guys? Thanks for having me now again.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
We know we know about that daughter life.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Oh yeah, you know it's funny too. Speaking of COVID
and speaking of daughters. Remember we were all in that
and I don't remember if this is exactly because of quarantine,
but that viral video of my man who was doing
a zoom and he was trying to have a serious
conversation with everything, and.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
With daughter walks in and the mom slides and trying to.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
The one the other one on the walker, like, ah,
this is bad, dude. We were living through some wild times.
And he brought up a great point in like it
affected the sports world. It's so much, I mean so
many different ways. I mean, things could have if we
don't have COVID. Dude, the Brooklyn Nets have a title,
they might you know what I mean? Do we have Kyrie,
(33:39):
James Harden and KD balling out of control if we
don't have COVID. Some people will say in the bubble,
the Lakers wouldn't get that ring. You know, some people say,
I don't believe it. I don't agree with that, but
that that's a narrative that will a lot of sports.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
They say, if we didn't have COVID, he never would
have saw Zach Wilson Trey lanmce get picked in the
top three picks, right because they played like eight games
and then it was no fans and.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
You're just kind of like, I guess he was good.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
So so many different things came from that, and again
there's so much that we're just you know, we're still
a couple of years, two and a half years of
whatever it is, removed from it, that we haven't been
able to dissect so much of our society. I'm talking
about economically, the the long COVID, just what it's done.
It did so much to teenagers, man, the data and
these kids who are suffering loneliness. Robbie senior year, I
(34:25):
couldn't go to prom, supposed to go on this state
championship running my football team. The basketball team got canceled,
and you see a lot of kids I remember, you know,
I do a lot of mentorship and I'm I'm a
board a director on this nonprofit and it's for youth
in underprivileged youth out here in southern California. And my
point is, I remember hosting an event is right when
we're coming out of COVID, and Rob G. You remember
(34:47):
in high school, if I were to be like, what
high school did you do? You have to tell me,
but what do you're high?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (34:51):
So if I said we got the mean gads up here,
now we got Whitny Robin, dude, I'm we got such
and such.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
We can do.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm looking in their eyes. They were lost. It was
rough Man rough Pierce. I said all that to say
he's right that we kind of just move on, move on,
move on. But COVID was a strange, strange time. The
entire world stop. Yeah, it's hard to believe, all right.
Last call eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox, We're gonna take another call.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
We'll take one more before we get out of here.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
It is the odd couple, Rob G and for Rob
Kevin Washington on a funky flashback Friday, Stick with Your
Boys one more Time.
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