8 Mile

In honor of Mac's 35th birthday - We discuss one of our favorite movies growing up - '8 Mile'


Directed by Curtis Hanson and starring Eminem, Kim Basinger & Brittany Murphy - '8 Mile' follows a young rapper in the Detroit area, struggling with every aspect of his life; he wants to make it big but his friends and foes make this odyssey of rap harder than it may seem.


Does the movie hold up?  Where were you in 2002?  How satisfying is the ending?


We also discuss hot chicken, freeze pops & MUCH MORE!


Join the conversation on social media - @MACandGUpodcast

Episode Transcript

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Mac, can you think back tothe last time that, as you were
doing something you said to yourself,I've made a huge mistake. Oh that's
a great question, because I it. I think through a lot of stuff
before I go and actually do something. I'm pretty well thought out, not
very spontaneous these days. So offthe top of my head, no,

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nothing, nothing comes up. I'mso calculated though, Mac. It's more
laziness than anything. So yesterday Iwas going to take my son to a
movie. I got a pass forGarfield, a little screening, gonna impress
him, be like, hey,I want to check out Garfield Brag.
And ahead of time had to havesome lunch. I said, do you
want to have some Dave's Hot Chicken? He keeps seeing billboards for Dave's Hot

(00:46):
Chicken. He was like, ohmy god, Dave's Hot Chicken. So
we went and as we were ordering, him like just give him the dullest
flavor, and just give me whateverthe hottest flavor is. And they're like
reaper, like yeah, whatever itis. And they gave me a sh
sheet of paper to sign and I'mlike, oh, that's kind of cute.
So I signed the paper. Wesit down, I take a couple

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of bites of this chicken and immediatelyknow that it is going to come out
of me. I have never beenthe adventurous type when it comes to hot
food. Goo. I hit mylimit around Buffalo mild, that type of
stuff, because then I start sweating. Anyways, I turn red. Anyways,
I can't do that's my upper limit. I can't handle the spice level.
So I don't know why if you'retrying to have a nice Sunday with

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your son, why you would tortureit just before a movie? Mind you
right? And I'm pretty sure thatI've had this specific sandwich in the past.
I think I just ate it slower, like I took my time when
I was eating it, but theway I kind of scarf this down.
As we were then walking to thetheater, I'm sweating. My mouth is
all red from the heat, andI'm like, oh, no, I've

(01:52):
made a huge mistake. And thenI brought my son into the bathroom stall
with me and he had to sitthere horror as I was throwing up Jesus
CHRISTO. That's why he didn't likethe movie. Oh he's taking about the
movie because he was thinking about hisdad losing his soul in the toilet for

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the whole thirty minutes you were there. No, no, So I will
say this, and I think we'reallowed to share spoilers, not spoilers,
but like a review of this movie. Garfield is a mashed potato sandwich.
It stinks good. I texted youthis a little bit earlier. I think
I've seen nineteen movies on the yearnow, maybe eighteen, and almost half
of them have been dog shit.Yeah, different levels of dog shit,

(02:34):
some diarrhea, some solid, butstill dog shit. And as much as
I have liked Dune, this hasbeen a pretty bad year for movies so
far. Yeah. And I wasactually going through the schedule of movies coming
up earlier because I'm I don't wantto brag, but I you know,
tease movies at work. You knowwhat's coming out this weekend. And I
was writing them mount and I'm like, uh, oh, we're hitting a

(02:57):
real bad patch and this last goodpatch wasn't that right? Yeah, it's
it's gonna be by the end ofthe year. We might have trouble rounding
out a good four for for theGoody Vault. And then speaking uh once
again of being at that movie onSunday. The most excited my son,
my three year old son, waswith the Garfield movie was when I said,

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do you want to leave about anhour in? It's yes, yes,
I do one good, three yeah, Jos three. King of Queen

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MARYL. Street entered time go andI am Mecai Pheiffer. Want you take
your white ass back? Cross eightmiles paying the pie piper? All the
pain inside amplified by the fact thatI can't get bye with my nine to
today we are discussing eight mile eightmile was I believe and I'm not even

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joking, even though I'm giggling whileI'm saying it like a seminal movie in
the childhoods of Goo and I.It came out in two thousand and two,
the beginning of our eighth grade year. So Goo and I are thirteen
years old. A piece soon tobe fourteen also point out that we are
white males, white males. Yeah, so eminem, and there's no shame

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in this eminem. Certainly, whateverlevel of fans we were of rap prior
to eminem, eminem double triple quadrupledthat it just made it more accessible.
That's just simply a fact. Andalso at thirteen, fourteen years old.
You were so suggestible, like youcould so easily fall into trend, just

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so easily do this, so easilydo that. It was just this movie
hits at the absolute perfect time forgood. And I think this might be
the first movie and maybe the onlymovie that I stepped out of it being
like I think I should do that. It's one of those things where you
know, there's just there's that alltime online clip of I just want to

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do a hood rat ship with myfriends. Yeah, And that's that's the
feeling you get leaving this movie.Like I thought to myself, imagine a
life where around every turn there's arap battle. Once a week, you're
going to defend your honor. No, And like all I knew in my
head was that as long as itrhymes, that's good. That's a start.

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That's a start, as long asit rhymes. Now, Mac,
let me ask you, how didyou see this movie at first? So
I, if I recall correctly,it was a group of like five or
six of us, and we hadto have someone's older sisters for us at
Fresh Pond Movie Theater in Cage andthat's how we got in. And the

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sister didn't even come in with us. She had a cup with us to
buy the tickets so that we couldget in. I went with my father
and my younger sister corn Yep.We both loved Eminem. My dad liked
Eminem. I think my dad likedthe story of the movie. It's a
pretty good story. Obviously, thereis a sex scene that was extremely awkward,

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two of them. Yeah, souh yeah, it was quite something.
Yeah, but it was a moviethat we had to see. If
I didn't see it, I don'tknow what would have happened. Yeah,
And speaking to that and our age, our demographic, should I say I
think at least two thirds, ifnot three fourths, of our eighth grade
yearbook, our middle school yearbook,our class listed their favorite movie males and

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females as Lose Yourself or as aneight mile, and favorite song as lose
Yourself. I actually had my songas eight mile I Wanted to be Different.
That's a good song too, though. Yeah. It just absolutely dominated
that school year for us, andwe liked eminem anyways, but if you
if you saw that movie already lovingEminem, it just took it to the
nth degree. And really it's justlike the Eddie Murphy joke from Raw where

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he said as soon as Italian sawRocky, they suddenly thought that they could
fight as soon as I saw him, Like I can fucking freestyle, I
can rap battle people. I wastrying to remember. I don't think my
Space was quite out yet. Thismight have been right before my Space,
but it's in that era of Internetand uh in what we would be influenced

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by. I was very much whatsome folks might call a poser. Then
there's there's a worse word for it, but I there There is certainly records
of me wearing like a bandana undera sideways cap, like I was like
living that life. I did thatfor at least one summer. Yeah.

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Yeah, I thought I was thecoolest cat out there. So I call
it my White Chocolate era. That'sthat's really defined that. That was my
rename. I had dog tags madeon the eighth grade DC field trip that
said white Chocolate, although I misspelledchocolate. I did two a's instead of
two o's. They're so dumb.That's really great for me. So that's
really where where we're at really.And also Mac, I took a cue

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from this movie and I said tomyself if and when I get into a
rap battle, I'm gonna attack myselffirst, because if I attack myself first,
what's the other person gonna do?Right? Right? I honestly think
there's a generation of people molded bythat final rap battle or like, I
gotta get out ahead of this.I gotta be stef I gotta be self

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detrimental here. And we need topoint out right now before we say anything
else, the final twenty five minutesto thirty minutes of this movie is that
when the rap battle at the shelterstarts up again. Yeah, A plus
cinema, dude. I would argueninety percent of this movie is a plus
cinema. It's I don't know goingback and watch some of this. I
knew every scene that was coming up. Like I even said to myself ahead

(09:01):
of time, like do I haveto rewatch this movie? I know this
thing point for point. I hadsuch a good time. Really, I
guess my only issue with it isthat while I knew all the point to
points, I think every scene wentjust a smidge too long. I don't
know. I don't know about that. It's just about a bunch of young
lings fucking wreaking havoc in the Cityof Details. Also, could you imagine

(09:22):
this? Could you imagine if whendid we start the podcast nine years ago?
Sixteen? Okay, so what ifI said to you, Mac,
I want to start this podcast.It's me this great sports podcast. We're
going to reach all these people,And as soon as my cousin turned on
the microphone, I just started throwingup everywhere. What kind of a start
to this career would we have?That's totally different though it is more is

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it? It would be more akinto the first time we did something in
front of a live audience and youjust started throwing up everything. No,
it's like, of Mac, Mac, we're gonna talk about the Mets pitching
versus the Cubs offense. That's harmsAnd then they're like, dude, your
response, Oh, but you wantto be a rapper? Okay, all

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right? November eight, two thousandand two, that's the setting for eight
Mile. It hits theaters right beforethe Christmas season, A rated R drama
and music. I guess they justcould call things music now. So I
don't know if it is music becauseit's like it's perfect. There's music weave
throughout and there's music overall. No, but the music is like it isn't

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naturally flowing throughout, Like they takea battles no, but they take a
step off to the side to doit. And there's also a great like
ninety four ninety five soundtrack in herewith some really good hip hop songs.
I've always thought of you as beinga shook one great and they use it
again at the end for the rapbattle beats. Yeah. Runtime of one
hundred and ten minutes, so it'sa pretty crisp hour and fifty minutes.

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There's not much waste of time inhere. I don't know how crisp it
is. I'm not gonna live fuckyou, fuck you, dickhead. Like
I think everything at the Shelter isamazing. I think the sex scenes are
great, but some of it isis a little repeat y. No.
I like the it's it's it's ait's essentially a day in the life but
a week, a week in thelife of Jimmy Smith Junior, right,

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but within like hours of things happeningof like, oh I heard you choked,
that just happened. How do youhear about that? Well, it's
yeah, I mean word of mouth, you know everyone's playing telephone. Gude,
riddle me this. This is themost dumbfounding thing, and I didn't
know this. This might be thefirst time I ever went on Roddy T's

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for eight Mile seventy five percent fromthe critics, which honestly is higher than
I thought it was gonna be.Yeah, fifty four percent from the audience.
How does eight mile have fifty fourpercent from the audience? Okay,
so I don't even care about that. I want to give the critics credit
here because I think what they realizeis that while yes, he's kind of

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playing himself, Eminem does a damngood job, a great job and also
seventy seven on metacritics. So yeah, the critics got this, and it's
a compelling story. It's a prettywell made movie for a guy basically telling
his life story on a So withthat, I would like to now take
a kickflip off of my own pointright there and ask why not just make

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a bio pic? Oh, becauseI think you want some creative freedom to
make the story more compelling. That'san easy one, but yeah. But
all they really change, though,is that his daughter is now his sister.
They asked him to just have hisnormal colored hair to you know,
differentiate from his you know, blonde. So like, is it's really similar?

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Why not just stick with what itis? I don't know if it's
really similar. It's it's the onlymain similarities is that he's a poor white
rapper coming up in a predominantly blackindustry. He lives in a trailer park.
His girlfriend is either pregnant or fakingPregnantory lied about it. I don't
know. There's a lot going onthere with Pansacola. And then also,
uh, his mom, Greg won'tgo down on her. U. Kim

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Basinger, is that how you pronounceit? Basing Yeah, more like Bassinger?
Right? I thought she's great aswhite trash. I love I love
Kim bas That's a butt double,right, we're assuming definitely Kim Basinger,
that's a butt, that's a funa titty, or that's a butt double.
I'm saying butt double money on buttondouble. Disagree again fifty four percent
from the audience. I don't knowwhere that came from. And like,

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not for nothing if you're looking likein the in the grand scope of like
musical artists that made a movie oracted in a pretty big budget movie that
weren't previously actors actresses M and M'son the shortlist for best job, like
Whitney Houston's up there too, Likeice Cube, Well, Boys in the
Hood, he's really good. Yeah, ice Cubes up there, there's three,

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but there's there's not many where Likethe fifty set movie is not very
good and he's not very good init, but okay, I think think
the best comparison to this would bePrivate Parts with Howard Stern, where he
is first. Howard Stern's actually prettygood in that movie. He's playing himself,
but it's a you know, aheightened version of himself. And just

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like Eminem at the end of thismovie, Howard Stern at the end of
his movie said that was good,but I'm never doing this again. They
both said the exact same thing.Yeah, Curtis Jackson fifty sent went the
opposite way, but he also dida faithful adaptation of his life that was
more a biopic than anything else.Whereas this is loosely based on this is
like I don't know how to describeit. Like this is like when people

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thought that Departed was about Whitey Bulger, but it was actually an adaptation of
a completely different story, just setin Boston. That's sort of what this
is to Eminem's life. This wouldbe like if we did a movie about
this podcast, then we called itMark and Drew Goo. Yes. Eight
Mile is written by Scott Silver,who has a pretty interesting resume. He's

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only written like seven or eight moviesover thirty years, but it's this,
The Fighter, The Finest Hours andJoker are four of them. That's a
pretty impressive resume for a man that'sonly written six, seven or eight things
upcoming. He's doing Joker Fond atthe end of this year, and he's
doing the untitled hal Coogan biopics,so he's got a couple of decent things

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on the horizon there. Writing prettygood in this now, I do think
I'm sure Eminem had a He doesn'tget a writing credit, but I'm sure
he helped out with like the dialogueamongst the frets. Well, I also
think that they had to lean intohow Eminem spoke as well. Yeah,
no doubt, and also like thesecond half of the movie, like just

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right yelling next to all of hislines. A good This is directed by
Curtis Hansen. He did the handthat Rocks the Cradle also won Best Adapted
Screenplay, and he directed La confidentiallywith Kim Beasinger. Yep, damn right.
This was his biggest hit at thebox office, though eight Mile made
one hundred and sixteen million domestically twohundred and forty two million worldwide, like

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by far his most successful movie.So for a guy that's directed, I
think he's got twenty plus directing credits, eight Mile is his single most successful
one. Also, by the way, we did way too much research on
this movie, maybe the most researchthat we've ever done on any movie.
And one of the directors who wasin the mix to direct this film was

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Quentin Tarantino. Could you imagine thatsex scene, both those sex scenes,
but the focus on the feet.I as much as I like Quentin Tarantino,
this movie would be worse. IfQuentin Taranty, it would be a
lot weirder, weirder and worse.It would not have because this is like
crisp in pretty quick. Tarantino's eightMile would have been two and a half
hours and there would have been somepretty weird shit in there. He was

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working on kill Bill at the time. Yes, yes, there you go.
Synopsis follows a young rapper in theDetroit area, struggling with every aspect
of his life. He wants tomake it big, but his friends and
foes make this odyssey of rap harderthan it may seem. Pretty good,
yes, And you know what Ilove about it is that the entire movie
eminem is like, if I justwin this rap battle at the shelter,

(17:12):
my life is all set. Andthen at the end of the movie he
does win it and nothing changes abouthis life. No, it's the vote
of confidence he needed. It's theboost for you. But also, but
also is there cash that you win? Do you win cash? You probably
get a little bit of a cashprize, I'm guessing because his friend Glasses

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there was like, you can youcan live off of this now He's like,
you, what are you doing?Go back to work? You just
won this rap battle. No,I think I think you probably get a
little bit of cake. Sure,But it's more so the confidence booster that
he needed to go and record hisdemo. You know he's got he's got
like a proof of concept now.And that's really what this movie is about,
because it just imagine living in Detroitwhere you have your winnings from the

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Uh from the Rap Battles, andthen your mother just on bingo, like
you can go to the Burlington CodeFactory and living. I think that's why
I like this movie so much,though, is it just takes place over
a week. They don't give usthe first twenty years of Eminem's life,
you know, it's just like yousort of can read into how he grew

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up. They place you right in, drop you into a week in the
life. They give you a coupleof compelling storylines, and you dip out
with a really satisfying ending. Clarencealso just won three straight of these I
think, like three to five straightup Clarence. Yet that's his name.
His name is Clarence. He justand I don't think it's changed Clarence's life
at all. No, for Clarence, it's more of a power thing.

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I think that a little bit ofa power struggle there in Detroit Rock City.
You know. Clarence goes, He'slike, why didn't you guys just
get a fucking divorce? Go?Yeah. This movie stars Eminem as Jimmy
Smith Junior aka Bunny Rabbit b Rabbitthumbs up. I For whatever reason,
I just look the rabbit. Nickname just works. I liked the little

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story they give of when he wasa little kid, he had big,
big teeth, like a bunny rabbitand that's how he got the name.
And apparently that was based off ofthe real life fact that his relatives called
him Mickey when he was younger,because apparently he looked a little bit like
Mickey Mouse. Can I point outhow stupid that is? Well, what
are you gonna do? Mickey Mousehas a beautiful smile, he doesn't have
buck teeth. I was thinking moremaybe big ears for Mickey Mouse. I

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wasn't thinking smile wise. Oh,I that it was a sant thing with
like the buck teeth, or maybeit could have been a teeth thing.
I was thinking ears wise. Ifhe had big ears, I would have
called him Dewey, like from Melcolmin the Middle. A real cool fun
fact about this movie, and fora guy that had never acted before,
the fact that he's in every singlescene in this movie is really impressive.

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Once again, that's what reminds meabout him and Howard Stern. Howard Stern
is in every scene of his movie. Fair enough, That is fair enough.
I feel like Howard Stern would havehad more creative control than eminem though,
but that's I feel like they bothhad the same amount of control in
their movie. And then that's solike h on the Howard Stern not to
go into like a different direction,but like actors have asked him, why
didn't you do more movies after thisone? He is like, that was

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too hard. I didn't want todo that anymore. Well, because most
actors aren't in every scene in amovie. That's that's why it's so hard.
So instead of two but also thesetwo guys also aren't trained actors too,
So it's like like I want togo and be like a broadcaster again.
I want to go rap again.Because even while so when he wasn't
acting in this movie, he waswriting music, he was writing the soundtrack.

(20:29):
Yeah, and beyond that, ifyou're not a classically trained actor,
Let's say you have a scene comingup the next day where you get to
memorize twenty lines. If you don'thave a good process for that, that
might take you five hours instead oflike an hour like a regular actor.
Yeah, because if you look atsome of these scenes, Makai Pfeiffer had
the lines written on his forehead forhim. Also in this movie, Goo
Kim Bezinger is his mom, StephanieMackay Pfiffer's future aka David Porter as he

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gets called at one point. Thischaracter was based on Eminem's friend Proof Rip
Proof I think died in two thousandand six. Brittany Murphy is Alex,
who brings like the perfect skanky sexappeal to this role. She's great at
just being that's it's a perfect takeon it, and go here's a little
fun fact that I didn't know untiltoday. Yeah, she admitted on an

(21:18):
interview in Leedhiman, I don't knowtwenty years ago that they actually got romantically
involved during the filming of this movie. And I would say you can one
hundred ccent feel that in their sexscene. Yeah, she kind of has
like that uh lew Anne Platter voicegoing on in this too. Of course,
she voices Lewayne and King of theHill like the deeper voice. Evan
Jones is cheddar Bob. A coupleother people that read for this role Goo
Seth Rogan and Jason Siegel. Imagineif they casted both of those guys instead

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and they just flipped them every scene. Siegle's too tall Seth Rogan would have
been interesting there. What if theycasted both of them and they just had
they switched them every scene. OmarBenson Miller has Soul George, she's the
big dude. D'Angel Wilson as djis, he's the preachy one gooster actually
brothers, although they don't I don'tthink say that during the movie. Uh,

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Eugene Bird is wink son of abitch, real good son of a
bitch, swindling everyone. Whether yougrew up in the inner city or you
know, you grew up rich,there's always a wink type that you grew
up with that you don't really like. But every once in a while you're
like, all right, I'll tryit, you know you old man.
I parked Ray Allen's car the otherday. Yeah, did you? Yeah?

(22:26):
Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah.Taron Manning as Janine. She's only
in like three scenes, she's prettygood in them. Interesting to note here.
She's also in Britney Spears' movie fromtwo thousand and two called Crossroads.
You also might know her as Pensacolafrom Orange is the New Black. Yes,
indeed, Chloe Greenfield as Lily,who did a couple of TV things
after this, but I don't thinkshe acts anymore. That is, of

(22:48):
course Eminem's sister in this movie,who's she's probably like eight in this.
Michael Shannon is Greg Buell, whoagain is only in like two scenes,
but he's fucking great rate in thetwo scenes he's in. And I found
this earlier that the original choice toplay Greg Gary Sonise, who would have
been great in that role too,because he's always great. He just would

(23:10):
have he would have looked older thanMichael Shannon. Also, every of the
line would have been won't someone thinkof the troops? Goode? Anthony Mackie
is popa Doc aka Clearance. Uh. This is his first real role.
He had an uncredited TV appearance beforethis. This is his first fucking role
ever, and it's eight Mile,playing essentially the villain of eight Mile.

(23:33):
That's fucking epic. Gary Sinise alsoloves the moon. It's like a split.
Those are his two young favorite things. Uh. Some cameos here or
like the final the Rappers. Herewe have Strike Sanders as lickety Split.
This is the fella who's who hascorn rows and the headband not jacked.

(23:53):
Also, uh, he got jobbedduring his rap at the end. We'll
talk about that at the end,though I don't know if I agree.
But Future kind of swayed the audience. But let's it's close to no Eminem
swayed the audience with his pale Future. Also Future gave him a little bit
of a home field advantage. Iget that. But let me also ask
you, out of everyone here,out of all the rappers, lickety split

(24:17):
might be the worst name, right. I don't mind lickty Split. I
don't like lickety split. U wehave nasehan Ox Breed, Love is Lotto.
This is the fellow with the cornraillRose but jacked in the wife beater.
He's the second battle with Snoop Dogggot a boob job. Now you're
you've already kind of said this isthat your rapping name would have been white
Chocolate. Yeah, for sure.Like I've had several nicknames. I think

(24:37):
I could do Jmac too. Andnow there's a famous porn star with that
who who stole my thunder? Whatdo you think? Do you think big
rag Goo or Rooster is better?Rooster is way better better? Yeah,
Shamboo could have worked too. OhI was Shamou at the time. Yeah,
Shamou would have worked. I thinkRooster is the best of the b
I think Roos is the best.To get on Twitter and vote about goose

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rap name, guys, tell usright now, what do you think my
best rap name was? Come onM's boy Proof who futures based off of
plays little Tick. That's the guyat the very beginning of the movie who
Eminem chokes against. Obi Trice cameosas one of the gimmicks. But yes,
yeh exhibit is the lunk struck rapperthat gets put down by Eminem.

(25:21):
Great scene. I would send itout of all of the like random around
the corner rap battles, that's myfavorite one, just for the line of
look at those boots, they're growingroots. By the way, if you
are maybe like twelve or fifteen yearsolder than us, so maybe you were
like twenty five when this movie cameout, and maybe Eminem missed you,

(25:44):
I don't know. I still recommendthis movie. I still think it's like
a pretty good drama with good pacing. I think it's a good movie outside
of the Eminem's Let me ask youa question though, because the movie seems
to be lost on My wife isthis a WPS white people shit. Yeah.
I don't know if it is becauseM and m's not white people shit,
because I mean it also might evenbe more pigeonholed into being WBS white

(26:11):
boy shit. Yeah, but wewent so I guess it'll be more white
people because half the girls who wentto school with also loved this. Maybe
you had to see it in twothousand and two to like it as much
as we do. I think it'sa legit good movie. No, I
like it. I like it alot. Yeah, that's a good that's
an interesting thing. I'm honestly surprisedthat Batty doesn't like it. Yeah.
I was watching it last night.She's like, what are you watching?

(26:32):
It's terrible? And I'm like,first off, how haven't you seen this?
You closed ticket easier? Take don'ttell? I said that, can
you cut this from the podcast?Goo? The music in this movie,
like I alluded to before, isspot on. I love how at the
beginning, the Jimmy related stuff theyshow him right in a little bit.
How it's like incomplete Rhyde. Youknow that that scrap piece of paper was

(26:56):
sold for ten thousand dollars? Yeah, I got it later. You fuck
well I didn't first time. Yournotes are fucking TLDR the way, too
many notes. Just fucking know thatI covered everything? How about that?
All right? Fine? But yeson the bus when you see him scribbling
there at the beginning was the actualpaper that he wrote Lose Yourself to that
ended up selling for ten thousand dollarson eBay in like two thousand and six

(27:18):
or something like that. Yeah.The soundtrack, outside of the M and
M stuff is awesome. It takesyou back to like ninety four ninety five.
Some of the best songs from thatera, great hip hop music,
especially when they go into the clubs. All of the original songs on the
soundtrack too, are great. Soyou have I think three or four eminem
songs. You have Wangster, butWangsta is a or eer Wangster. Well,

(27:41):
no, no, it's something somethingsomething, it's fifty cents. Yeah,
it's the other one. It's thefirst one. Okay. Do you
not know the song? No,I'm hearing it in my head. I
thought they were the same song.No, it's the first song that made
him famous. Like this is wherefifty cent broke with this song. Sing
it again. You say you werepump. That's not the same song no,

(28:07):
and I haven't heard that song ina long time. I'm making up
the words right now. Yeah,okay. And also a good exhibit song
on there. There's a good jayZ song on there. Score one for
Gou. Yeah. Ifamous League goon set, they needed a couple of
people for the rap battles during themovie. They held open auditions to pick
three or four extras to end upbeing in the rap battles, which I
just thought was really cool. Youcan see some of that on the DVD

(28:32):
some of the extra features they showsome of those rap battles. Dude,
Lose Yourself won the Oscar for BestOriginal Song, first rap song to ever
win, and that actually opened upThere's been a couple a few rap songs
since. I think that really legitimateizedlegitimized rap, at least in the eyes
of the academy, which is fuckingweird. And also notoriously, Eminem didn't
show up because he didn't think hehad a chance of winning and ended up

(28:56):
performing that song in twenty twenty atthe Oscar. So that's a nice little
to admit there. And oddly enough, Gou, I think because his especially
his first album is a lot morerap and less hooks. Lose Yourself became
his first legit number one hit overall, not on the rap charts, but
overall, so that's a fun factthere. The movie soundtrack went to number

(29:18):
one and was the fifth best sellingalbum of two thousand and two despite only
having two months November and December,so that's pretty good. We talked about
the paper getting sold. This moviemade fifty one million dollars on its opening
weekend, becoming number one at thebox office, beating Goo's third favorite movie
of all time, The Santa Claustwo. You think about that, well,
my first favorite is Santa Claus three, of course, yeah, right,

(29:41):
and then second would be the SantaClaus the first one. I love
the Santa Clauses. And my favoriteTV show is the Santa Claus Show that's
on right now. Sure that's athing, definitely I knew about. Also,
fifty one million the second highest openingfor an R rated movie ever behind
Hannibal at that point anyways, andthen it got beat out next the second
its second week gup by Harry Potterand The Chamber of Secrets, also a

(30:03):
movie I very much enjoyed when Iwas thirteen years old, Speaking of the
DVD, I found out this weekthat I no longer own this movie and
or I can't find it. Thiswas one of the first DVDs I ever
owned, and I was a littlesad to learn that I couldn't find it.
So I still do own this DVD. It's in my attic, but
I did not want to plug myPS five in, so I went ahead

(30:26):
and I just rented it for fourbucks. Yeah, I did the same
thing from Prime. And it's alsoonly streaming for free on Stars, which
is ridiculous. I don't know howthat happened. That's it was on Netflix
at some point. I definitely rememberthat. By the way, DVD salesmax
seventy five million dollars, and Ithink one of the reasons why is because

(30:48):
it had Superman the music video onthere. Yeah, if you never got
a chance to watch the Superman musicvideo, I don't do you think you
can watch that online now? Assomeone uploaded that Mariah drive through twice.
It's like an X rated music video. It's it's pretty nudy, features porn
star Gina Lynn, and it's thecold keyhole stuff. I was a big

(31:10):
fan of it. It's a bigold orgy scene too. Own the DVD
there, Yeah, so for theextra rapt battles, but for the naked
yet mainly I mean I mainly boughtit for the two sex scenes and the
music video. Also, I thinkwhat this movie deserves the most credit for
is spawning Malibu's Most Wanted and anew canned spaghetti sauce. There you go,

(31:33):
Mom's spaghetti. Yeah, and thenhe had that pop up a couple
of years ago where he actually servedmops spaghetti, which is pretty good when
I get to the octagon or thedecagne. But whatever number we got in
here, now, all right,mac fun factor and the real fun here
is the battles, specifically, Iwould say the shelter battles. I had
a blast rewatching this whole thing,and I think part of it is because

(31:56):
I remember back to like being athirteen year old kid like this movie.
And there's movies that do this forcertain time periods in your life, like
The Lion King brings me back tobeing like five years old and being traumatized.
This brings me back to being likethirteen years old talking to people on
aim like that sort of shit,So that that part is fun. Satisfactor

(32:16):
really, there might be nothing moresatisfying in movie history than the final bat
I'm not even exaggerating. This isone of the most satisfying endings to a
movie ever. It's so fucking satisfying, the like the breadcrumbs were there.
When he's in the club and he'slike and he hears a girl say,
oh, his real name is Claricceis like Clarence. No, that was

(32:39):
that was like when they were inlike someone's basement or something in someone's basement.
Sorry, yeah, before that,and then right before the final rap
battle, cheddar Bob's like, areyou worried what he's gonna say about you?
How like wank fucked your bitch andall that, And then he starts
thinking, so credit to cheddar Bob, the cheddar Bob, the alley is
always there, borometer. And Iguess I had a little more bore than

(33:02):
obviously when I was younger, justgoing from point A to the end point
B, and I might have beena little I wasn't annoyed, but like
them playing up them winning this onerat battle as being life or death,
and then it ended up really meaningnothing. Really, you're missing the whole

(33:23):
thing. You you're missing the messagebehind eight mile, like how it's just
how obsessed he is with it.Small victories, okay, small fine whatever,
not an ounce of born here forme. I unabashedly love this movie.
I recognize it's incredibly predictable and it'snot overly complicated, but I think

(33:50):
it's actually paced extremely well. Andthis might plant like a different one of
our things here, but like whenthey tried to get a little more complicated
with like you know, talking aboutlike the Detroit landscape and like you know,
the guy who are the lady andall that stuff, and then they
burned down the house. Yeah inin Okay, all right, you know

(34:14):
Aquate down the house when you werethirteen, Aquator. It's better than Aqua
Man Halloween. Compared to the firsttime I saw this, I think I
had it when out like a fortywhen I first saw it at thirteen.
So yeah, it's waned a littlebit, I guess, a little bit,
but it is. It's a legitmovie. I get shotshak by every
time, so it really has it. Plemonade Mac. When life gives you

(34:35):
plemons, you make plemonade. AndI think I guess I'll go with Britney
Murphy here. But I also reallyliked how whenever anybody insulted future Mackay Pfeiffer's
face, like h Brittany Murphy provideslike the perfect love interest slash foil in
this. But the plemonade for meis cheddar Bob, cheddar Bob all time,

(34:57):
great character. Everyone's got a cheddarBob and they're crew too. And
if you don't know who the cheddarBob and your crew is, then you're
the cheddar Bob. All right,Mac, we added X factor last week,
but that's kind of stupid. I'mgonna throw that one away. Uh,
let's do something I like to callinstead, uh, wrapped up real
nice? Whose story was wrapped up? The best? Not gonna answer this,

(35:19):
gud, I'm gonna say his momshe won Benghost. He's got thirty
two hundred bucks, which is likefifty five hundred in today's cash. There's
a lot of cash for it,and in Detroit that's like one point three
million. Buy a house even today, you could buy two trailers and stack
them on top of each other.Oh quick, double wide. Oh you're
talking double decker couch style, Yeah, but trailer max credit Uni. You

(35:42):
know who you're give him credit toIt's gotta be eminem again. He's in
every scene of the movie. Hedoesn't get a nomination for this. I
think if he was more well likedat the time, if there wasn't as
much controversy surrounding him lyrics in hispersonal life, I think he could he
would have goneered a nomination like thelast nomination in a year. I don't

(36:04):
know if I would go that far, but I would also say that I
think he's very good in this Yeah, phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal Pants ten City
Excite, bike Mania? What inthis movie got you going? And for
me, it's just besides the sexscenes, the rapping at the shelter is
just like the beginning. Even thefirst guy that he battles, he's pretty

(36:27):
good, but those last three rapbattles is just it's Martin Scorsese's cinema.
I'll say, baseline, every rappingscene, every at the little like underlying
score that's in half the movie.But my biggest pants tent scene other than
the sex scenes, because that's prettyclear, is the chintikis when they're rapping

(36:50):
in the parking lot. Ten FreakingGirls, ten ten ten Freaky girls.
My favorite favorite scene in the wholemovie. I'm surprised you don't do that
more. I can't tell you howmany times I've that in real life,
and maybe Morty will pick up onit. Almost no one picks up on
what I'm referencing, and I'm like, how how do you not know what
I'm referencing? For those of youtarty to the Mac and Goo party,
we rate everything on a forty hotdog rating system, and I would say

(37:15):
truly one of ten movies growing upthat like had a real influence on me.
Something that walking out, I'm like, I'm gonna be a rapper.
I'm gonna wrap battle everyone I seenow. I'm gonna buy a dictionary.
I'm gonna buy a Theosaurus. Noone's gonna stop me. I looked at

(37:36):
myself in the mirror, and Isaid, how can I take aim at
myself? What are my enemies gonnalook at me and say, I'm gonna
get that. I'm gonna get myselffirst. I'm gonna make sure of this.
This movie is great. I'm notsure the last time that I saw
this full movie prior to watching ityesterday, but I have at least seen

(37:57):
these rap battles at least once ayear since, Like, I have gone
out of my way to watch thefinal half hour and it is just some
like that's my favorite stuff, likethat final the final rap battles, and
like I said, future kind ofsways the audience a little bit. But
I fucking love it. I loveit so much. The in between scenes
might not have had the same effectas me on me as they as they

(38:21):
might have in the past. SoI'm looking at like thirty thirty four.
Oh my god, I came intothis. I came into this with thirty
three. But you have really You'vereally opened my eyes again. I think
thirty four is like baseline pretty good. It's a B. I think I

(38:44):
think it's a B. Yes,I'm trying to be realistic about that.
No, you're not, No,you are not. I'm looking at your
shit there. You're not being realistic. There's a clear bias in here from
White Chocolate. But even if youlook back at lists from two thousand and
two, like ten Best Movies,this was on a lot of people's lists.
I'm trying to look back versus youknow, in its era in two
thousand and two, The Two Towersforty dog movie, no doubt, best

(39:07):
movie of the year. I thinkyou have Minority Report, which was pretty
close, roughly a forty dog moviefor me. I fucking love that movie.
Catch Me if you can probably betterthan this Other than those three,
which were our three other nominees whenwe did the vault for this year,
I would probably take this movie overevery other movie from that year. Oh,
we forgot to give a credit forspawning Yomama with Wilmer Valderrama and Wilding

(39:30):
Out. You had Roads Perdition,which some people love as an all timer,
no doubt, but I would preferthis. You're the first spider Man,
Sam Reimi. Spider Man came outthat year, Signs great movie,
Insomnia, So it's I think it'sin the conversation for best probably six,
top six or seven on the year. Did Catch Me if you can come
out that year? Yeah? Twothousand and two, Yeah, I have

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this at thirty eight. Hot DogsGooo. It's not an all timer,
but in any given year it couldfinish in the top No, but for
you, is it an all timer? Yeah, like no doubt. But
if I were gonna if I wereto make a list of one hundred greatest
movies, this wouldn't be anywhere nearthe top forty year five. But also,

(40:12):
can you name me another movie thatyou walked out being like, that's
what I want to do? Iwould be hard pressed to come up with
one higher on that list than thisone. Again, separate from the M
and M stuff and the white chocolatestuff, the pacings phenomenal. The drama
is great, the music is awesome. It perfectly defines and captures like two

(40:36):
thousand and two. I think it'sa great movie. Who thinks it's a
very good movie or a pretty goodmovie? No, but I also think
the bookends of it are fucking amazing. And you know me, this is
what it is more than anything.Goo. I am a sucker for a
satisfying conclusion, and this is themost satisfying. But even the beginning with
him, you know, not beingable to go on stage, choke,

(40:59):
choke, choke. All right,well let's get to the timeline then,
yeah, how about that. Also, just realizing spoilers if you haven't seen
this movie, yeah, hours agowe opened Detroit nineteen ninety five. Uh
you hear shook ones in the background, see b rabbit in the bathroom mirror
kind of like trying to get ittogether, fucking throws up vomits on his
sweater. Bouncer won't let him backin until Future vouches for him, So

(41:22):
you're like, even the people atthe shelter don't want Jimmy there. We
find out his ex girlfriend has claimedshe's pregnant. He gave her the car.
He's going to move back in withhis mom an eight mile. Uh.
We kind of figure out Papa Doxlike the king of the shelter.
He's the host. You see thechoke choke choke line that Papa Do's not
the host. Future's the host.Oh sorry, yeah, Papa Docks the

(41:42):
king futures the host. That setsthe characters like down a very good path
for the rest of the movie.Uh. When he finally gets back to
his mom's trailer, he walks inon his mom riding cowgirl on Greg Buell.
Great scene, and you sent aperfect thing. Let me see it
was from Cinema Sins. Let megrab the exact quote here. What did

(42:05):
they say? Cinema Sins is apretty good take up of this movie.
I got rid of it to nothave a naked but on my one second,
Okay, I have it from yourtext, give me a second,
all right, all right, Cinemasaid said Also, it's not like Jimmy's
quiet as he walks in there,but his mom doesn't even turn around to
see who's coming in the front dooras she's letting someone else come in her

(42:30):
front door. Yeah, Greg's theone that notices she keeps riding. It's
fucking incredible. Yeah. Also,him and Greg Buell went to the same
school. Yeah, but Greg wasthree years older. Again, Kim Besiger
is great as white trash in this. We meet his sister Lily. Then
we meet Wink, who's promising Jimmythe world. He's an over promiser,

(42:51):
under delivered, just classic. Also, we figure out that Wink doesn't really
like the shelter, probably because knowwhat, the shelter really likes Wink.
Then we meet Brittany Murphy's all outsidethe factory. And also one of my
sneaky favorite scenes is the double Birdbecause he's trying to flip off his boss
flips her off. She flips itback right then and there you're like,
oh, Alex gets it. I'min on Alex. And then go my
second favorite scene of the movie outsideof the Chintiki scene the Sweet Home Alabama

(43:15):
remix. My name is Jimmy,his name is Greg Buell me him and
you. We went to the sameschool and Future it's the school the same
time that Jimmy does because he getsit. He understands Rat. You know,
he knows what's coming. Yeah,it's that kid rock song right A
live man a trailer. Uh.We find out when caing Future fucking hate

(43:36):
each other, we get a coupleBiggie Tupac references, which is always fun.
Again, the freestyle circle outside ofthe Chintiki is my favorite scene in
the In the whole movie, Iquote it way too many times. No
one ever understands what the fuck upquoting. They get in a quick fight
with the free world there, uhcheddar Bobb yells yeah, fuck the free
world. And this is where weget the first instance of you need to

(43:59):
take your white ass back across eightmile. Another thing that I quote all
the fucking time. I say italmost every day. Also in this movie,
Future keeps on telling Jimmy that assoon as Jimmy wins a rap battle,
three one three or the three onethird, is that what their group's
called? Yeah? Three one threeit's easy living for them, Like that's

(44:20):
it. As soon as this happens, their reputations through the roof. I
don't know if it did anything.I don't. I think you're putting you're
putting words in future's mouth. ThreeI'm not that's exactly what he's saying.
And then we get a couple ofminutes later the scene where Eminem pulls the
Yui, gets out and starts tofight with Free World. That's where Chetta
Bob shoots himself in the leg,and we cut the scene of the car
where he asks Jimmy if mc bobis a good rap name. Uh back

(44:45):
at work you Jimmy smokes exhibit atthat lunch truck, and that makes Alex
so moist. They got to immediatelyrun into the factory. Fuck. I
will say that Cinema Sin's also dida great takeup of like so for a
break, you get thirty men minutes. He waited in line to get his
uh deviled eggs for so long,then he went outside and did a rap
battle. Then he had sex forwhat feels like forever. How long are

(45:08):
these breaks? I probably was probablyabout thirty minutes. Crammed that all in
in thirty minutes he did like,I don't even know if he got to
eat. Actually, he was probablypretty hungry that day, especially after sex.
Not on those boiled eggs that arefor the defending machine disgusting. Uh
and then uh not too many minuteslater, he fucking finally makes it to

(45:30):
the studio to meet Wink. Washe fine? Go his boy Wink fucking
his girl Alex? They hadn't knowwhat was going on because they knew Jimmy
was coming. Excuse me, Iknow you must just threw up. That's
how upset this makes me. Yeah, I think this was a little bit
of Alex testing be rabbit here,like I know you might catch us,

(45:50):
but this is fun for me asa thirteen year old, I was I
rashly upset in the theater. Iwas like, how dare you? Motherfucker?
And then minutes later we get likethe scare scene quote unquote of the
movie with a Free World, witha Wink holding the fucking ice back on
his face, comes and beats theshit out of him in front of his
little sister, which is like hardto watch. She's screaming Jimmy from the

(46:10):
trailer. It's like hard to watchit's not great. I don't like that
scene though. It's like, wink, grow up. Yeah, seriously,
you gonna have your friends beat hima fucker? Yeah, if you deserve
it. Wake deserved his beating.Wake. If you want to fight him,
fight him, yeah, fight,fight like a man. His mom
wins Bengo thirty two hundred. Huzzah. They get they're gonna get a double

(46:30):
decorationd How much money is she puttinginto the pot that she's gonna get thirty
two It must be a massive banquethall that they're doing bingo in, because
that is a lot of money.Yeah. The combination of him getting his
ass beat and then running into Alexagain and her kind of taunting him about
not going back to the shelter finallymotivates him enough to go back and redeem
himself. Uh so we get weset the scene for like the final act

(46:53):
at the shelter. And this iswhere you took a note here from a
from a Papa Doc line. Atthis point we should have all said,
maybe Papa Doc isn't a great insultrapper. He said to Cheddar Bob and
to Jimmy, it looks like ahandicap convention. In here. Yeah,

(47:14):
he really smoked them. You're gonnathey have anything more clever. You're the
three time champ of this rap battle. I don't know why he keeps saying
three either. I don't know whereyou're getting that number for. It's at
least three, I bet, Ibet it's like a month. Yeah,
I'd say probably. If it's amonth, he doesn't have to do it
anymore. What's he doing? Ithink he's gonna retire. Yeah, his
friend with the glasses suggested that heretired after winning it once. First battle

(47:37):
rap. On the evening he getsLickety Split, and the whole audience is
like, ooh, this almost seemslike lickety Split was maybe underseated. I
don't know how they do the seedings. Might have been some controversy back in
in ninety five. Uh, licketySplit, pretty good job. But Eminem
uses his own line against him atthe end of his and walks his eight

(47:57):
is his white ass back cross eightmile. I think that's what puts Eminem
over the top. But the crowddidn't understand that reference. Yeah they did.
They didn't know that callback. Itwas a callback to something earlier in
the movie. No Lickety Split saysit in his in his in his rap
it yeah he does, all right, my bad on that. But I
would also say that as soon aseminem I'm sorry, it's not eminem.

(48:20):
As soon as Jimmy finished his rap, future just a means like, that's
that, that's it, that's it. It's over because he just showed his
white ass because he just finished hisrap. You gotta let people know.
You gotta get people. You gottagive you the thirty seconds. Take a
step back, consider the first rap, think about it, and way,
all right, guys, let's seewhat come. Let's see a show of

(48:45):
hands for licking down. Let's seea show of hands for be a rabbit.
I think I could host this.I think I could host this.
Don't get me wrong. It wasclose. Lickedy got it, and then
he's faced up against Lotto, whois also got corner, but it's more
jacked. He gets hit with theleave of the beaver line, and then
at the end of that he's like, oh, the leave the beaver line

(49:06):
almost killed me. But he spinsit back on him good, which is
obviously a common theme leading up tohis final battle with Papa Doc. He
said I think you were a littlehard on the beaver. So is Eddie
Haskell, Wally and Miss Cleaver pointingto the Free World, which a great,
great fucking line, and then hebasically tells him he's he's a he's
a roted out freak. And he'salso like, you're saying the same same
shit he did, AKA, youdon't have anything else on me, and

(49:29):
then he beats him. Then weset up for what is like such a
satisfying moment that Papa Doc is like, let this bitch go first. Like
I can't even think of any Rockymovie, any like Karate Kid, any
Final Showdown, uh Usa, Verus, Russian Miracle, Mighty Ducks. I

(49:51):
can't think of anything more important thanthis one final rap battle. And it
starts so perfectly. Now, wellhe stands tough. I notice that this
man did not have his hands up. It's like perfect. Fuck. The
Free World three started with a chantfor if you want to win a rap
battle, just fucking chance. Iam white, I am a fucking buck.

(50:12):
I do live in a trailer withmy mom My boy future is an
uncle Tom. I do got adumb friend named cheddar Bob who shoots himself
in his leg with his own gun. I did get jumped by all six
of you chumps, and wake didfuck my girl. I'm still standing hands
screaming Fuck the Free World. Seminalmoment in my lifetime. Then he brings
it back though, yeah, butI know something about you. So good.

(50:34):
The lady says it, it's sogood. Went to brook it's a
private school, and Clarence's parents havea real nice marriage, and everyone's like,
boo, fuck you, you suck. It's so good. It's so
fucking good. Like what an insult? Oh, your parents love each other,
you only have one Christmas? Youloser? Uh, it's so good.

(50:58):
Fuck the Free World three one three, and then he exchanges the bird
with Alex again. Then we getto your favorite line of the movie,
where it Is tells him you're theman now dog, you ain't got to
work, and he's like, no, I didn't make any money off that.
I need to buil money. Ilove. Right after he says that,
the beginning of Lose Yourself starts playingand he's like, nah, I

(51:19):
gotta go back to work, andhe starts walking down the alley and Lose
Yourself plays us out in the theater. Fucking amazing. Then he jumps in
the air with his hand and itgoes into a freeze frame. The final
Yeah, you're right, the final, like twenty minutes of this movie is
just fucking eight thousand hot dogs.It's so fucking good. It's so good.

(51:40):
I think I'm good with the beI think that cool. I'll put
it this way. I tried reallyhard to not give this forty hot dogs.
I was very objective. Thirty eighthot dogs. That's pretty good.

(52:01):
Max and Maxac could be anything,that could be a boat and Mac.
As the weather gets hotter, weare coming upon Freeze Pops season. So
I need to ask you. Thereare six colors in a box, the
old traditional box, whatever you wantto call them, freeze pops, otter

(52:23):
pops, ice pops, ice pops. Tell me which colors are you going
to first? I don't even carewhat the flavors are because there's an argument
always, Well, that's blue resor, that's caught in candy, that's
tropical pups, that's watermelon. Theflavor is the color, Yeah, the
flavor is the color. Yeah,no doubt about that. To me,

(52:45):
there's a clear top three, andI don't know. I actually haven't had
a free pop in so long,so I'm not confident with my number.
I just bought them. So yes, Uh, but blue, green,
and pink clearly head and shoulders abovethe other three. No, no,
no, I think the clear twothat are above the other three is blue
and pink. Oh see, Iwould lean if James gun to my head,

(53:07):
shot gun to my balls, I'dgo green and blue with pink.
Third. Want to hear me outreal quick, Okay, I think that
green is the licorice of freeze pops. You either love it or you hate
it. That's probably purple. Purple, I believe is delicious because it tastes
like medicine. It's the worst flavorthough, so I think that it's better

(53:27):
than red. Though I think thatred. Hear me out, shut the
fuck up. Red is the mostconsistent flavor, like, you know what
you're getting with red, but it'snever one that I'm seeking out. Red
is clearly fourth, ahead of orange. That is clearly fifth. Purple is
clearly sixth. And then in myhomes as a child, purple and orange
were always the last two. Istill like them, but clearly the bottom

(53:51):
two. And my parents' home rightnow from when I was a child.
There are still green ones. OhI'm going over there tomorrow. You can
have those twenty year old freeze pops. It's still good, right. And
also, I think that orange andred are closer than what you're making them
out to be. I think they'repretty similar. Yeah, four than fifth,
but you can flip them. Iwouldn't flip them. I think red's
better than orange, but I thinkthey're clearly fourth and fifth. You can

(54:14):
make that the middle tier if youwant. Now, I'll even say this
is that I prefer pink over blue, but I'll give you the edge of
blue over pink, because I thoseare the two best those you're gonna make
our list. Blue would be numberone, then, yes, our combined
list, and then pink would benumber two. Where would you rank green?
So green would be my last one, but because you have it number
two, it would end up beingthree. Probably it might be number one

(54:36):
on my list. So yeah,it would be three, and then red,
red, and orange would be fourthand fifth in some order. And
then purple, red and orange wouldbe tied for fourth act because I have
purple, I think at three,Oh what I like purple a lot at
three, though, yes, Ohmy god, it tastes like medicine.
I love medicine. I'll tell youwhat. We would be a good split

(54:59):
though, if we had to eatfree spots together, because you can take
blue, we would get half thepinks. Okay. So say if we
say, if we opened a boxof twenty four, let's say how many,
So this six flavors. So let'ssay if we had a box of
eighteen. This works out perfect.Three flavors. Need to know, make
it even number? Make it no, no, let's make it an odd
number. Wait for it. Okay, So if it was an odd number,

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would open the box. You wouldget two blues. I would get
two pinks, would each get oneof each. Then you would get all
three greens. I would get allthree purples, and then we would work
out the rest. That might work. Yeah, the math works out pretty
well. It might. I'm alsosaying that most likely they're gonna sell them
in a twenty four pick, sothat was kind of pointless. I would
like one of every flavor, though. Let me make that clear. Oh

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but you don't like purple. No, I like purple. It's just clearly
six. You just talked to them, would you fucking hate it purple.
No, I said, it's clearlysix. I like it though, I
just like it about you. Ilike them all. It's like skittles,
I like them all. Purple isjust clearly the worst one. You eat
them, did you like mash themup first and then like eat them as
a fine slush. You know whatI really liked was taking an extra long

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cut of the top and eating thatlittle little bite at first, you know,
like a like a little costcoat tasteteaser right there. You know what
I used to do as a kid. And this makes no sense. So
you usually buy them when they arejust juice. Yeah, you put them
in the freezer. They freeze over, and then what I would do is
I would sell science works. Butthen I would take them out of the
freezer, wait until I turn backinto juice, and then drink it.
No. I did like though,if you grabbed like six or eight,

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because you're not just getting like two, you're getting a handful in a paper
towel, and by like the thirdone, the fifth, sixth, seven,
the eighth, worns are getting prettyjuicy, so you're getting like a
different texture with each freeze pop asyou go along. Would you ever mix
the colors. Oh yeah, yeah, did that quite a few. Sometimes
I would intentionally not drink the bottombits of juice and then by the end

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make one long thing of juice.You are a mad scientist. Yeah all
right, guys, so head overto Twitter right now. Tell us your
favorite freeze pops, tell us whatyou think our rap name should be,
and then just you know, tellgood that you're sorry that he threw up
yesterday. And I bet in twothousand and two I ate a shit ton

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of freeze pops while watching eight Mile. Yeah guaranteed, MC freeze Pop.
That's a terrible dame. I thinkRooster's your best name. All right,
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the biggest news that came out ofthis past weekend is U meatball summer is

(57:58):
back. I have had I hadmultiple meatball subs since I saw you tweet
out meatball subs. Look, Ihave a feeling that when I eat my
meatball subs this summer, it's gonnabe all homemade ones, because I think
I make them better than most stores. I would agree that you can make
a better one at home than likeninety five percent of restaurants. Yeah,

(58:19):
like, I love my sauce.I love my balls. Just the ad
effect. Some places do it,the ad effect that if you just put
a little garlic butter and turn itinto like a pseudo garlic bread with the
meatball sub just puts it over top. But also, and not every place
does this. Most places will provolone. Then you go with the nice I
like and mozzarella. I like ablanket of provolone. Yeah, sometimes the

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mutts, but definitely for sure thesprinkle of the pecorino romano. Oh ah,
palmersan sorry not mozzarella. It's palmersanI like the Pecorino romano. No,
I do both. I'm unstoppable.So guys tweet us out your photos
of meatball subs all summer long.And also, I forget who asked me.
They're like, wait a second,isn't this the spring? No summers
started when June two hit the theaters. Summer kind of starts this week.

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We're getting eighty degrees this week.Damn straight acs will be going up.
I'm gonna try and not drop itout my window. Good luck, So
Tuesdays or goosdays? I abuse kangaroos. The team Barton, please flip the

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cassette over to side B to continuethe adventure