May 25, 2025 • 36 mins
This week on The Big League Podcast - Warriors hooker Wayde Egan stops by for a chat after the club's win streak ends at five.
Michael Burgess reflects on the 16-10 defeat to Canberra as well as a heated press conference back and forth with Raiders coach Ricky Stuart, and we debate whether the NRL needs to consider a mid-season representative break.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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This week on the b LP, Wade Egan stops by
for a chat after the Warriors wind streak ends at five.
Michael Burgess challenges camera coach Ricky Stewart after his sides
aggressive tactics and does the NL need to seriously consider
a mid season representative break. My name is Nick Buley.
(00:44):
Let's go b LP. Ah, here we go again. The
Warriors lose and the pitchfork's are out. The keyboards are
being bashed too many eras, they've got nothing on attack.
They're soft through the middle. It goes on and on
and look, well, I admire the passion from the fan
base and some questions do need to be asked. Can
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we please take a collective breath and cut the doomsday nonsense?
The Warriors were not far off beating a very good
Canberra team without their co captains, arguably their two most
influential players. Let's not lose sight of the big picture.
They are third third on the NRL table. Was it
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a disappointing result?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Is it season defining no Michael Burgess, Senior Sports rider
at the New Zealand Herald.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Have I gone soft or I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
What was your initial take after Sunday's performance and defeat.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
It's a good point, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
I think the reaction, the frustration, the anger even is
being felt because people know that they could have won
that game and how big it would have if they
managed to jag that win on Sunday, that would have
been a massive result and even more momentum, and it
was there. But they weren't quite good enough. That doesn't
mean they didn't play well. I thought they played quite well.
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They just weren't clinical enough. And the Raiders are a
very good team, very good team. You know, they're better
than any of the teams the Warriors have played lately.
I think looking back across the season, maybe the Raiders
are probably only second to the Storm in terms of
who the Warriors are faced. So Raiders are a very
good team. Tough conditions. Without their two leaders, they still
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had a real go. But I can see I can
understand the frustration because people know how important this could
have been, especially given they've got what have they got
coming up, Rabbitos Away, Sharks Away and then Penrith for memory.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
So they've got a tough run coming up. So understand
the frustration.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
But I agree with you not season defining, and there
were things to like, which we'll get into in a minute.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, we certainly will.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And look, I want to get into the attack specifically
as one of them.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I want to also get into it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But a press conference back and forth featuring yours truly,
But look, before we get to that, special guest Wade
Egan stop by for a chat with you Burge for
his take on that sixteen to ten loss to Canberra.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Hell of a battle tonight. Look like a credibly tense game.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
What did you make of it?
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Yeah, they're a good side can Berus are. Yeah, very
tense game. And yeah we probably just left a few
chances out there. I thought were pretty good defensively other
than a few lapses. But yeah, we probably should have
sort of scored some points at about tennis toga.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Was that the difference? You think? Just all that rid
zone ball and you couldn't make the most of it.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Yeah, we got held up a couple of times. I
will close a few times, and yeah, we just didn't
nice our chances. I think we are a few little
communication sort of areas as well on ages and which
is disappointing, but I thought we can take a lot
out of it, like we're good defensively.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
And how do we get sort of build on that.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
How hard are they to play against the special with
their defense which seems to sort of swarm and slide
at the same time.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
No, they're a very good team.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
They're probably the best team we've played so far this year.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Obviously played them twice, but I think they're probably other
than probably Melbourne. I guess them in Melbourne are probably
the toughest opposition we face. And they're there.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Backfield, just outstanding out there the way they carry the ball.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
So credit to them.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
They played really well, and then they're going to be
a pretty tough team to be.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I think that you made here.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
How crucial were those two simboning periods. They score when
they're down to twelve men and then they also score
on you when chance gets gets burned.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Yeah, that's disappointing obviously, probe more disappointing when we had sorry,
they had twelve men and they scored. So yeah, I
guess we'll look at an interview and hopefully sort of
take things we can improved from.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
On a positive note. Happy with the defensive.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Effort, Yeah, yeah, definitely, that's sort of what we're trying
to pride ourselves on their defensive effort.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And I thought we were really good for most of
the game tonight.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Obviously got a few few tries in there, but our
goal on defense is pretty good and we can take
some pretty good complies.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Out of that.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Everyone's feeling a bit down.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
But if you look at thirteen weeks on from Las
Vegas against the same team, can you.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
See can you see a lot of progress? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Yeah, a lot of progress made. But yeah, we're definitely
not happy with the loss. You know, even though we
won a few in a row, we definitely wanted to.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
We thought we'd sort of.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Left one out out tonight, and yeah, it's very disappointing.
But we go again next week and yeah, we're sort
of I guess we progressretty well since since round one,
but yeah, we're still not out near where we.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Want to be.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Does that show our father's teams come that that you're
you're all pretty pretty flat after this?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah? I think so, mate.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Obviously, I think we hold ourselves to pretty high standards
and if you don't win, it's sort of a I
guess the disappointed resolved for us.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
But I guess we can take some good things.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Out of that game as well, especially out of fence.
So yeah, we're revealed tomorrow and to go from there, how.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Were you feeling with sort of five ten minutes to go?
Do you think you were you were going to do it?
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Yeah? Well, I think Big Maratha got held up, like
he just missed there. And you know, we're close to
Scrin a couple other times, so we definitely threw some
good shots at.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Him, but we just yeh couldn't get over.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
One night and Joseph Tupp and he just told us
that it does sort of mean more to him playing
against the Warriors than other in there our teams, with
his family in the crowd, and you know, he's a
key with it felt like he was on a bit
of a man on a mission tonight. He's how tough
is he.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Is an opponent?
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Yeah, Yeah, he's a world class player. Obviously, he's one
of the of the best front rolls in the game.
And yeah, I guess it is sort of a bonus
for him coming back home and playing in front of
his friends and family, and yeah, he was. He was
really good tonight and he's he's he's good most week's
made his Yeah, as I said, one of the best
front rollers.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And yeah, he had a games hot.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
And finally, how are you coping with the load, all
the travel you had recently and all these all these
close games?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
How are you feeling physically? Yeah? No, feeling good, mate.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I think I've sort of the Fittestuf've sort of being
I guess in healthier stuff, sort of.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Been for a while.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
So yeah, feeling really good and yeah, hopefully keeping knocking
the knocking the games up.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Did it? Did it hurt a bit? The origin situation?
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Oh, I'm not not, not really mate. If I if
I get the call it one day to be awesome.
But until it, I'm just sort of focused on playing
for footy for Warriors.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
And if if a chance comes, I guess I'll take it.
But yeah, until then, I'm focusing the worst.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Is it nice though, that you're right in the frame
and there were some people a bit surprised that you
you didn't get the call it.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
That must be a nice feeling I get. Yeah, yeah,
it is a nice feeling.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Mate, I guess, Yeah, sort of Coulter be up in
I guess mentioned in the likes that Arena.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So yeah, sort of a dream.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
As a kid wander a young Feller and Risko who
South Wales trying to grow up and play Origin. But yeah,
it is also also pretty cool just to be mentioned
in so I guess arena.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
This is the Big League podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
This is going on?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, the Big League podcast on the Warriors band wagons
since day one.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well Berger, before we unpack the Warriors performance, a lot
of commentary online about the way the camera Raiders went
about their work.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
They had two.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Synbons, four players put on report, ten penalties committed in
all but to carry on postmatcht howsari if you want
to call it that which has riled up some Warriors supporters.
It sounds like the players we're giving it back after
a few Warriors fans were dishing it out during the game.
Here's Ricky Sture more specifically on some of those incidents
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around aggression. This all came about unprompted by the way
Ricky Stewett talking about his team's approach.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
We could getting told these games about entertainment and that
was an entertaining game tonight. But we can't discipline aggression
because our game, our broadcast is promote aggression. We've got
to be real careful that we don't go and want
to scrutinize aggressive actions in a game that is molded
on pure aggression and passion. On Wednesday night, we've got
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the one of the most special games in our calendar happening,
and it's created the profile and the culture. The passion
of origin is through aggression. My promoting foul play. But
I got panealizing and I don't mean penalizing out there.
But with match review committees, we can't gauge as willing
nelly passion players for aggression.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And here you are, Michael Burr, just challenging Ricky Stewart's
position as you.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Say, you feel like you when he releases Joe's when
you release his head. That's what we practice to do.
But we practice releasing the head and less I didn't
say I've said it wrong, but you spoke the referee
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about releasing your head. And I'm not, as I say, like,
I'm not promoting for.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Our playmate, not promoting for oul playmate.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I enjoyed that that little tip for tat there, Michael Burgess,
and look, you're there as a journalist asking the hard
questions which we want to hear and answer from. But
you are on here on the Big League Podcast as
an analyst. You're there live obviously. Did you think the
camera raid has crossed the line?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Probably? Probably?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I mean, it's a tricky one, isn't it, because you
know that they are a very aggressive team. It's an
aggressive game. All teams have their enforces. I just look
like maybe they pushed the boundaries a bit too much.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You know.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I hate crusher tackles, I really do. And sometimes they're accidental,
sometimes they're not. But I didn't like what I saw
with that. There are a couple of high shots, a
couple of shoulder charges, but it just felt like they
were out to intimidate, which you know is part of
the game. And good on them because they were coming
to Mount Smart thirty thousand people.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
They had to do it. They wanted to upset the Warriors.
They did it well.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
The Warriors probably lack enforces in a way without Fisher,
Harrison Barnett on the field, but I thought there probably
could have been another syn been in there, and I
just think Ricky Stewart. You know, origin is different, unusual,
parallel to draw, but also you've just got to you
do still have to protect the players to some degree.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I agree, and look, I thought one of the most
frustrating people out there in the field on Sunday night
was Adam g the referee. He was really trying to
get a handle on both teams, showing real willingness and
intense and agree call it what you like. And then
around the discipline around six to goes and offside penalties,
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he went to the Synburn option. Even then that didn't
seem to prove a deterrent for poor discipline and it
just sort of unraveled for the Earth. Will be interesting
at this point in time as we go to record.
At some stage this afternoon Monday afternoon, the Nral judiciary
will come out with a report looking at those incidents.
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Jacob Laban was the other one on report outside of
the four Raiders incidents.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
That was for something we don't see all that often.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Too, burge a raised leg off a kickoff reception into
the contact into a defenders.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Sorry, so that'll be an interesting one as well.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Let's part that for the time being, though, Let's get
to the Warriors, and look, they had their chances, particularly late.
I mean on another night, ma Arter, their cord reaches
out there and dots it down. He was held up
centimeters short. But look, I think you nailed it in
your report. They were pretty poor during those sinbinning periods.
Not often you see a camera team or an opponent
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go down a player and still able to win the
arm wrestler in terms of posision, field position and the points.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
That's when they scored one of their tries.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And then when Chance Nickel Klukstar was yellowcarded or sinbind
in the second half, camera then scored again. So that
was one that Andrew Webster I'm sure will reflect on
and know that their game drivers need to be better.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
They do.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I mean, that was a key We talk about turning points,
but that was a key turning point. The Raider has
just gone down to twelve men, Warriors hot on the attack,
They've got the lead, gig got momentum. They get a
penalty as well, of course, and they go wide from
that penalty. I think it was Chance that tried to
sort of no look past to Roger on the first
or second tackle. It goes over the sideline and then
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I think on their next set was when Chanelle spilled
the ball and that was just about the only time
they had the ball in that ten minute period. Otherwise
the Raiders were camped in their line. They scored a try,
so I think things started to unravel there because if
the Warriors go to halftime it's a fourteen nil, which
they could have done, then it's a very different game
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and it's probably enough enough to get home. But the
Raiders got back into the game in that period and
they were the ones feeling good at halftime. So yeah,
not making the most of those of those the period
of the symbenning was really really frustrating for the team
and I'm sure the crowd.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Well, let's take away look down at the attack because
I suppose over the last three weeks now two of
which have obviously been wins. But if we look at
the last three weeks, just scored the six tries. One
on Sunday night against Canberra, that being Roger tw e
vasishit good finish in the left wing corner.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And we were.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Talking last week Burge more about it felt like a
slight shift for mine from a positive standpoint on the
fifth tackle options of Shanelle Harris Tavita and Luke Metcalf.
It felt like they were moving in the right direction.
Sunday night against the Raiders. Look, it wasn't easy. We're
the wise against a very good team, missing your two
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premiere props. But so the backs aroundable to perhaps fully
function off front football, but it just looked a little
bit clunky combinations, a little bit off. Ali l'attawa coming
back in on that right center position. Lekahala Sima just
there was a bit of a disconnected there and I
noticed he actually ended up getting subbed off having played
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eighty minutes the week before for a couple of repeated eras.
Here's Andrew Webster's thoughts first.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
On the attack before we unpack it.
Speaker 9 (14:50):
There's some really good attack, there was some frustrating So
it just wasn't going to be a night to go
around them, to try and go hands hands hands.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Well, Roger scored one.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
But after that we tried to do that a couple
of times. It just wasn't a night for that. We
looked on unorganized at times. But we'll call the players
and some blokes turn turning up with the no and
their roles, so something you just got to we've got
to really fix this week.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
What do you make of the attack Verge?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
I mean, Wade Egan made a good point when I
talked to him after the game about the communication was
a bit off, which he said is disappointing because there's
one thing, regardless of other things in the match, the
communication should always be there. But as webs are alluded to,
some of the some of the calls and the plans
went a right. I think the thing here is that
we've got to look a bit deeper. It's not so
much about the fifth tackle options. It's about what's happening
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on tackle two, three and four in the red zone.
Because there's not much happening. So they get to the
fifth tackle, they're not on the front foot, they haven't
asked questions. That offence is swarming all around, and then
it makes it even harder to come up with something
that's the That's the genius of teams like the Storm
is that they do so much earlier in the count
when there in the red zone. By the time they
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get to the fifth tackle, you've got camera Munster or
Pappenhausen or someone who's got or Hughes who's got time
and they set up a play and bomb, So there
are issues there. Metcalf Luke feels like he's still doing
things off the cuff a bit, which is fine because
that's how he plays. But there's there's got to be
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a balance, and there were points in that game weren't
there where the Warriors had a lot of repeat sets
and didn't create too much. There are caveats. The conditions
made it hard. Raiders' defense is amazing. They've got one
of the best defense in the competition. They seem to
be able to slide and jam at the same time,
and they were pushing it with the offside and doing
it well. So you put those treasons together. But there
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had to be a bit more variety, didn't they.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
That was the word I was about to use, variety.
And there's been criticism or scrutiny around, you know, the
same sort of attacking shape or the Warriors being just
a little bit predictable or one dimensional, you know, heading
that short man whether it's near Corda or a Hallaesima
at second row and then trying to play out the
back or trying to get it out to Dallen or
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Roger without sort of earning the rights and as you say,
that's where Melbourne are so effective, was sort of so
much so much going on and attack, creating a decision
in the defensive line, and then ultimately seeing that wilt.
So it will be interesting going forward. Before we move
on Tomighty Martin has been sort of lurking in and
around the interchange role, various roles. He actually ended up
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slotting into fullback with Charles Nickel Klokstar Sinbins in the
second half and then he sort of floated around as
a sort of playmaking locke. I suppose he was a
middle ford really when Chars came back on, Wade Egan
was still on the field.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Is that an option going forward?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Did you like what Tomighty was able to offer or
is that even a case then of cluttering things even further,
because then you've got what is it for playmakers or
trying to do something to inspire something on attack?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Yeah, I mean it can clatter, can't.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
And you notice when Tomarty does come come in and
try to play make Chanelle sort of takes a bit
of a back seat.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
But I like what Tomati does.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
He's a bit different to his approach, so I think
that's worth per savering with it's a point of difference.
That's what Andrew Webs is thinking. And on Lecky, you
mentioned him before. I think the thing with Leccer we're
forgetting is he's only played a handful of games and
this does happen to young guys.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And maybe you know, I still like him as an
impact player.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
I think he's been great starting, but he's great as
an impact player. Maybe he needs a couple of games
where he's back to being an impact player. Of course,
it's hard to have a guy on the bench as
a second rower. It changes your rotation a bit. But
you know, I wouldn't be too worried about what he
did on Sundays, just a young guy that that'll happen.
He gets targeted and makes a couple of mistakes. There's
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no doubt he's a gun, but you just need to
manage his time.
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Speaker 4 (18:58):
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Speaker 5 (18:59):
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Speaker 3 (19:01):
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Love alongside Michael Burges. We're going to get to Sunday's game.
This Sunday's game against South Sydney during our quick fire predictions.
But I did want to get into what's becoming an
age old issue, Burge, and that is, should the NRL
continue during State of Origin? Could we alternatively have a
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three week representative break?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
For example?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And I bring this up because on the weekend we
have five upsets in a condensed round. Maybe I'm just
angry because I went none from five and tipping. But
the Bulldogs, for example, there top of the table, hampered
significantly by losing players to Origin, which game ones on Wednesday,
and are thrashed by the Dolphins. We effectively end up
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getting this for six weeks of the NRAL because it's
both before and after an Origin game which is held
midweek on a Wednesday. And look, I really start feeling
for the good teams who have deserved their place on
the NRAL ladder, who are then unfairly punished having good players.
This issue won't go away, I know, Burge. In the past,
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there's been discussions around do we move into the end
of the year. Doesn't feel like the players really want
to batter themselves after a big NRL season, then have
three weeks of Origin tagged on to the end.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
There'll be expansion at some point with.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
The Perth Bears and the Papua New Guinea team and
potentially another entry to take it to twenty that could
then see a change in the schedule. What is the
answer here, because at the moment it doesn't feel like
we're in a good situation for the competition or the
integrity of the competition, at least that's my view.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
I hadn't thought about it exactly how you worded it,
And you're right. The big teams kind of do get punished,
don't they for their performances and having good players that
end the playing origin. I mean, I guess the other
side of that is you've got teams like the Roosters
in the Storm that have a lot of good players
and seem to have a lot of money, and people
wouldn't feel as sorry for them in that way. But
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it's hard to think of other competitions, sporting competitions of
the world where it does become so lopsid a different
times and these teams get effectively burdened for having star players.
The answer is exactly right. There needs to be a break,
ideally with some tests thrown in there. This is another
topic for another podcast Nick, But test match footy is
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becoming more and more irrelevant, and it's so sad because
it's sort of been disappeared to November and by then
a lot of players aren't available on a play, whereas
you've got to at least have one mid year test
with some specific games as well. The problem is it
will never happen because the broadcasters they just need content.
All they care about is content. And if then I
go to them and say, look, we're going to shave,
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We're going to shave three weekends off, they're saying, well,
what do we want in return?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It's a real shame. What you need here.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
You need the top people at Channel and at Fox
taking a a more holistic view and saying players need
a break. You get better competition, less injuries if you
have a a more realistic season instead of just bloody
burning them like they do to be great.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You know, I'd really like to know and maybe put
in some inquiries with a Fox or A nine or
a Sky. Is there a dip in broadcast viewership during
this period? Because I look at some of those teams
and I follow NRAL closely and with the greatest respect,
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I haven't heard of some of these guys that are
just popping up Willie Nelly out a reserve grade.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
You know, is that what we want for the competition?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Don't we want our best players playing, as you say,
a content beast. But I'm growing increasingly frustrated around Yeah,
as you say, what other competition does this happen? Where
I know State of Origin is king in terms of
the revenue that's created and the broadcast interest there, but
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we're pulling away forty forty five of the best players
and we're getting to a situation where I think it
might hurt a team in the grand scheme of things,
perhaps making the eight. And look, it's a funny thing
to say in many ways because I know it's benefited
the Warriors over the years. And yes they lost just
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the Mitch Barnett at the week just being but yeah,
I just wonder if there's a simple solution, as you say,
if you then had a break, you can reinvigorate Test football.
I know that complicates things even further because we're currently
got a situation where salm Old and Tonguan players are
playing Origin as well. But who's to say we couldn't
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have a Kiwi's England Series Super leagu'es just finished we
summer tour or something like that.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
P and G. I don't know, But it's a talking.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Point, isn't it, Because I know we're going to get
into our quick fire predictions shortly, but I'm just for
the sake of it going to pick all the teams
that I don't think are going to win, because it's
just an absolute lottery at the moment. Like we both
went none from five and that's purely with team who
are below. We went with basically all favorites. And yeah,
I just wonder is it good for the competition creating
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this this lottery situation when players are absent through origin.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
My argument would be it's not.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
There has been over the years a bit of romance
around this period too, because you had players you haven't
seen before come along, play a couple of games, and
then the next season they're in first grade. And I
remember often they talk about the baby Broncos back in
the days when the Broncos had so many Queensland players,
you know, and they or a Storm team that was
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devoid of a few of their stars, or that the
Storm always been lucky. Because I've drenly had a lot
of Kiwis, so the Kiwis of course are still playing.
So yeah, there's some people like the interests that creates
having some new names in there. But I just think
the other thing is asking way too much of the players.
It's not it's actually it's actually worse. It's worse what
happens this weekend. The fact they're playing an Origin game
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on Wednesday night, which is the toughest thing they do
all year, and then they're expected to back up on
Friday night. You know, you had players in the past
back and a half to forty eight hours. I think
Camera Smith once played on well many times on a
Friday night after playing Wednesday, and they meant to play Friday, Satday, Sunday.
And the bodies aren't aren't designed for that, but they're
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loyal to their club. They're kind of expected to play.
That's crazy stuff. But I think from a welfare point
of view, because then you probably get more injuries this
weekend because of it, et cetera, et cetera. It's another
can of worms. From a welfare point of view, it
needs to be looked at and the next broadcast deal.
Let's hope this is on the.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Gender big Moments the Big League Podcast.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
On that note, Birch, let's get into some quick fire predictions.
We'll start with State of Origin A because Wednesday night,
I know you'll be glued to your TV as will
I an intriguing series. This New South Wales, fair to
say coming in his favorites having won last year, but
that was under Michael McGuire, who is now under serious
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pressure as a Brisbane Broncos here coach Larry Daily comes
back in first game is in Brisbane, so there is
obviously that home advantage there for Queensland.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Which way do you see this one going?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
First of all, Nick, I can't remember are you Are
you a blues.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Man or I'd have to say morons if I was
really pushed. I'm not super passionate about it. But yeah,
if one or the other that I'd go with Queensland.
I think that's just I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I went with that.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Then my stepbrother supported New South Wales and I just
thought it'd be different.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Okay, yeah, I mean I think I think it's still
light a key. We still love Queensland from back in
the Allen Langer Wally Lewis days, I think right. And
then there was a long period when they were the
underdogs for a long time, and then that period where
they were unbeatable for a long time. But for some
reason we seem to follow Queensland and a lot more.
I know that frustrates change. Your Webster's always saying he
runs into so many, so many Queensland fans on his
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walks around around the eastern suburbs. I'm delaying this though,
because I'm really not sure Queensland at home and they
kind of have to win because if you lose the
first game at home it makes the series really really hard.
But it's hard to tip against New South Wales. They
do look like the better team on paper. They look
like they've got more weapons certainly, and probably a bit
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more size. So it's going to take one of those
underdog Queensland spirit type efforts to do it. I think Queensland,
if they win, will have to win it late. New
South Wales is more of a team that could build
a lead and go on with it. So I will,
against my heart, will I will tip New South Wales.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Okay, I'll go Queensland. And as you say, I think, yeah,
they're going to have to grind away almost Warriors esque
where it's just built on effort, scramble, defense and a
couple of key moments. I'm really intrigued actually to see
how Mitchell, Moses and Nathan Cleary combine as a five
eighths halfback duo to sort of Premier seven's in the NRL.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Do we see more of Moses as a runner? Do
we see more of Area is a runner?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Or do they just sort of duel half back if
you like, just own a side of the field each.
But very much looking forward to Wednesday night. Then we
kick into the NRL and what have we got? A
seven game slates? As you mentioned, Bird, there will be some.
I'm just trying to wrap my brain off the top
of my head. Dragons Knights is the Friday night game.
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Newcastle representatives, Kaylen Ponger. You think, surely, Kaylen Ponger wouldn't
back up forty eight hours. We've seen, as you said,
Caam Smith do it in the past, but Dragons Knights
the Nights out of nowhere without Ponger beating Penrith.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
At the weekend, Yeah, there was out of nowhere.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I guess it just shows you know, they would do
to put in a good performance. They've had a terrible season,
but on paper they've still got a good team, so
I was happy for them because it's been pretty miserable
for the nights.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
But I can't see continuing. I think I like the
Dragons in this.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I'm going to go Newcastle because I like the Dragons too.
And this is the NRL, as we know, during the
state of Origin period where nothing makes sense. Three games
late Saturday afternoon, Titans and the Melbourne Storm on the
Gold Coast to kick things off five pm, New Zealand
times at three pm.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
I've talked a lot of Storm players over the years
about this, and I think even Craig Bellamy once and
he just said that they take great pride in their
performance during Origin.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
They're sort of.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Every year they say themselves, right, no matter who we've
got missing or who's not playing, we're still going to perform.
We're still going to bank points and invariably that's what
they do. So I'll back the Storm to keep on
keeping on.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, I'm going to Titans are going to be consistent here.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Cowboys Tigers.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I love this. I like the Cowboys at home.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
I think Tigers, you know, they're an interesting team. The Tigers,
I don't think their top eight material. Don't think they've
had the They've got this squad that's deep enough to
get to September football. But you know they've had some
had some good wins, but just starting to see some cracks.
So yeah, I think the Cowboys at home will prevail.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, I'm going to be a bit more sensible here
and go with the Cowboys, although again they are you know,
Tom Deeddon for example, state of origin and Joame Low
perhaps are the points to prove having been demoted out
of New South Wales, so that'll be an interesting one,
but I will go the Cowboys are manly Brisbane around
out things on Saturday night, that's at Brookvale.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I think the Broncos will be starting to get a
bit desperate, won't they, because already Michael McGuire is under
so much pressure. Like it hasn't been a great start
to the season. It's been okay, but they've had you know,
a few losses now in the last few weeks, so
they really really need to win this. But they're not
always great when they come to Sydney. Last time they
came to Sydney, they lost. So I really hope the
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Broncos can do it for McGuire's sake, and maybe maybe
they will.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah. I thought Manly were very average without DC, which
I did sort of flag on last week's pod. Thirty
points to ten. They lost to a paramount side without
Mitchell Moses. Yeah, that's a real tough one to pack.
I'll go Manly.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah. I think there's a few things.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Bubbling away off field at Brisbane, which tends to be
every season, but it seems to be getting in the
way of the on field performance right onto the big
one for a lot of fans and listeners of this podcast.
In terms of Warriors on the road facing the South
Sydney rabbit Os, It's a two pm local kickoff at
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Akor Stadium, so four pm Sunday for us here in
New Zealand. James Fisher Harris will be back from suspension.
Mitch Barnett an outside chance. I would have thought he'll
be named either as a starter or on an extended
reserves bench and provided he gets through Wednesday, okay, he
should play rabbit Oze. It's always been a tough one history,
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hasn't it for the Warriors Birds.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
How do you see this one playing now?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I mean It's good that it's a Sunday because that
does give Mitch Bunnett a bit of extra time. Let's
just see how banged up he gets some origin. Hopefully
he's okay because he is vital, as is Fisher Harris.
As we've seen against the Raiders when they're not there. Look,
they've got the rabbit o's and then the week after,
as you said, they've got Creneller away. You would have
thought that the rabbit os is really a game to
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target because Crenella will be extremely tough the way they're going,
So this is a big one. They've got to be
a lot better across the park. They can be a
lot better across the park. The question will be can
they take their chances. I'm sure the yardage game will
be okay, But as you say, you're exactly right. Rabbits
traditionally always cause problem for the Warriors. I remember a
lot of bad losses over the years. I will tip
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the Warriors here to bounce back. I think there's enough
in this team that they can bounce back quickly, but
they'll need to be good.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
They will be They will need to be good.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Rather the one in car uraging sign that I would
point out as yet that the Warriors have been really
good after a loss.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
After the Vegas loss, they won. After the Melbourne mauling,
they won.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
So let's hope that that trend continues and losing streaks
don't become a theme in season twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
So I will go the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Then it's so we wish Sydney, Derby, Penrith and Paramatta.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah, this should be a good one. Actually, shouldn't remember
just a few years ago when these two teams were
two of the best teams of the comp and of
course there was the Grand Final in twenty two.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
So this should be because Paramatta is showing some signs
finally of getting going a bit this year. I'm going
to tip the Panthers though, because it's unusual for them
to have two losses in the role.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But Seevan teens Burge the last ye.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
They have had a crazy season this year. Yeah, do
you write them off for they gone? Can they still
make the eighth?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
No that I will Nick Buley guarantee here they will
the eight.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Okay, Oh, I like that. I will have to.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
We'll make a notice and we'll look back. But I
kite agree with you. I was reading a piece in
the Cidny Morning Herald about a month ago where they've
already been written off, saying they can't make the eight.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
They're the kind of team that can constring ten to
eleven games together and suddenly you know they're not going
to be first or second, probably not even top four.
But if they get to fifth or six, they're still dangerous.
So ye, I'll go with the Panthers here to win
the Battle of West Sydney.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, I'm going with the Panthers as well, And just
to illustrate my confidence the Panthers. Yes, there are nine points,
three wins, seven losses, and a drawer against the Cowboys,
but there's just three points separating seventeenth and eighth, so
it seems a long way away, but an actual fact,
when you study the table little bit more, it isn't.
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So there's just enough class there and Ivan Cleary's going
to figure it out. They're going to figure it out
at some stage, and they'd be the last team I
want to play first round in September to just round
things out. Birds here and now I'll supposed to be
quick fire predictions, but there's anything but Roosters Raiders, which
in itself has a fair bit of history between these
two teams as well, And I'm sure Ricky Stiett will
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be lacking very little motivation to get up against the
Sydney Roosters. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
I think there's still some herd from that from that
Grand Final and a couple of dusty calls. They think
they've got this game. Probably depends on what happens, not
make excuses for myself, but probably depends on what happens
at the judiciary, because if Tarpani and someone else ends
up out, it does change things for them quite a bit.
But I really like what the Raiders are doing this year.
They're they're a good team. Man, They're going to be
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right in it in the final. So I'll tip the
Raiders against a resurgent Roosters.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, I'm going to go with the Raiders as well.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I think that is an important caveat to note if
they were to be without a Tarpany or potentially a
Huts and young post origin. But they look like a
very complete team, a very well balanced team. Like the
way they go about their work through the middle, they
make yardage, they're back five.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
I thought we didn't really get to but they were
super impressive.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
The lots of to Balley Savage said Chris, so yeah,
we'll go with the Green Machine to continue.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
To roll on.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
That'll do it. For other edition of The Big.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
This week on the b LP, Wade Egan stops by
for a chat after the Warriors wind streak ends at five.
Michael Burgess challenges camera coach Ricky Stewart after his sides
aggressive tactics and does the NL need to seriously consider
a mid season representative break. My name is Nick Buley.
(00:44):
Let's go b LP. Ah, here we go again. The
Warriors lose and the pitchfork's are out. The keyboards are
being bashed too many eras, they've got nothing on attack.
They're soft through the middle. It goes on and on
and look, well, I admire the passion from the fan
base and some questions do need to be asked. Can
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we please take a collective breath and cut the doomsday nonsense?
The Warriors were not far off beating a very good
Canberra team without their co captains, arguably their two most
influential players. Let's not lose sight of the big picture.
They are third third on the NRL table. Was it
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a disappointing result?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Is it season defining no Michael Burgess, Senior Sports rider
at the New Zealand Herald.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Have I gone soft or I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
What was your initial take after Sunday's performance and defeat.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
It's a good point, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
I think the reaction, the frustration, the anger even is
being felt because people know that they could have won
that game and how big it would have if they
managed to jag that win on Sunday, that would have
been a massive result and even more momentum, and it
was there. But they weren't quite good enough. That doesn't
mean they didn't play well. I thought they played quite well.
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They just weren't clinical enough. And the Raiders are a
very good team, very good team. You know, they're better
than any of the teams the Warriors have played lately.
I think looking back across the season, maybe the Raiders
are probably only second to the Storm in terms of
who the Warriors are faced. So Raiders are a very
good team. Tough conditions. Without their two leaders, they still
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had a real go. But I can see I can
understand the frustration because people know how important this could
have been, especially given they've got what have they got
coming up, Rabbitos Away, Sharks Away and then Penrith for memory.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
So they've got a tough run coming up. So understand
the frustration.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
But I agree with you not season defining, and there
were things to like, which we'll get into in a minute.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, we certainly will.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And look, I want to get into the attack specifically
as one of them.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I want to also get into it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But a press conference back and forth featuring yours truly,
But look, before we get to that, special guest Wade
Egan stop by for a chat with you Burge for
his take on that sixteen to ten loss to Canberra.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
Hell of a battle tonight. Look like a credibly tense game.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
What did you make of it?
Speaker 7 (03:07):
Yeah, they're a good side can Berus are. Yeah, very
tense game. And yeah we probably just left a few
chances out there. I thought were pretty good defensively other
than a few lapses. But yeah, we probably should have
sort of scored some points at about tennis toga.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Was that the difference? You think? Just all that rid
zone ball and you couldn't make the most of it.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Yeah, we got held up a couple of times. I
will close a few times, and yeah, we just didn't
nice our chances. I think we are a few little
communication sort of areas as well on ages and which
is disappointing, but I thought we can take a lot
out of it, like we're good defensively.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
And how do we get sort of build on that.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
How hard are they to play against the special with
their defense which seems to sort of swarm and slide
at the same time.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
No, they're a very good team.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
They're probably the best team we've played so far this year.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Obviously played them twice, but I think they're probably other
than probably Melbourne. I guess them in Melbourne are probably
the toughest opposition we face. And they're there.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Backfield, just outstanding out there the way they carry the ball.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
So credit to them.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
They played really well, and then they're going to be
a pretty tough team to be.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I think that you made here.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
How crucial were those two simboning periods. They score when
they're down to twelve men and then they also score
on you when chance gets gets burned.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Yeah, that's disappointing obviously, probe more disappointing when we had sorry,
they had twelve men and they scored. So yeah, I
guess we'll look at an interview and hopefully sort of
take things we can improved from.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
On a positive note. Happy with the defensive.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Effort, Yeah, yeah, definitely, that's sort of what we're trying
to pride ourselves on their defensive effort.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And I thought we were really good for most of
the game tonight.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
Obviously got a few few tries in there, but our
goal on defense is pretty good and we can take
some pretty good complies.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Out of that.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Everyone's feeling a bit down.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
But if you look at thirteen weeks on from Las
Vegas against the same team, can you.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
See can you see a lot of progress? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Yeah, a lot of progress made. But yeah, we're definitely
not happy with the loss. You know, even though we
won a few in a row, we definitely wanted to.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
We thought we'd sort of.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Left one out out tonight, and yeah, it's very disappointing.
But we go again next week and yeah, we're sort
of I guess we progressretty well since since round one,
but yeah, we're still not out near where we.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Want to be.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
Does that show our father's teams come that that you're
you're all pretty pretty flat after this?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah? I think so, mate.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
Obviously, I think we hold ourselves to pretty high standards
and if you don't win, it's sort of a I
guess the disappointed resolved for us.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
But I guess we can take some good things.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Out of that game as well, especially out of fence.
So yeah, we're revealed tomorrow and to go from there, how.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Were you feeling with sort of five ten minutes to go?
Do you think you were you were going to do it?
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Yeah? Well, I think Big Maratha got held up, like
he just missed there. And you know, we're close to
Scrin a couple other times, so we definitely threw some
good shots at.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Him, but we just yeh couldn't get over.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
One night and Joseph Tupp and he just told us
that it does sort of mean more to him playing
against the Warriors than other in there our teams, with
his family in the crowd, and you know, he's a
key with it felt like he was on a bit
of a man on a mission tonight. He's how tough
is he.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Is an opponent?
Speaker 7 (06:05):
Yeah, Yeah, he's a world class player. Obviously, he's one
of the of the best front rolls in the game.
And yeah, I guess it is sort of a bonus
for him coming back home and playing in front of
his friends and family, and yeah, he was. He was
really good tonight and he's he's he's good most week's
made his Yeah, as I said, one of the best
front rollers.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
And yeah, he had a games hot.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
And finally, how are you coping with the load, all
the travel you had recently and all these all these
close games?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
How are you feeling physically? Yeah? No, feeling good, mate.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
I think I've sort of the Fittestuf've sort of being
I guess in healthier stuff, sort of.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Been for a while.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
So yeah, feeling really good and yeah, hopefully keeping knocking
the knocking the games up.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Did it? Did it hurt a bit? The origin situation?
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Oh, I'm not not, not really mate. If I if
I get the call it one day to be awesome.
But until it, I'm just sort of focused on playing
for footy for Warriors.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
And if if a chance comes, I guess I'll take it.
But yeah, until then, I'm focusing the worst.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Is it nice though, that you're right in the frame
and there were some people a bit surprised that you
you didn't get the call it.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
That must be a nice feeling I get. Yeah, yeah,
it is a nice feeling.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
Mate, I guess, Yeah, sort of Coulter be up in
I guess mentioned in the likes that Arena.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So yeah, sort of a dream.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
As a kid wander a young Feller and Risko who
South Wales trying to grow up and play Origin. But yeah,
it is also also pretty cool just to be mentioned
in so I guess arena.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
This is the Big League podcast.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
This is going on?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, the Big League podcast on the Warriors band wagons
since day one.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well Berger, before we unpack the Warriors performance, a lot
of commentary online about the way the camera Raiders went
about their work.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
They had two.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Synbons, four players put on report, ten penalties committed in
all but to carry on postmatcht howsari if you want
to call it that which has riled up some Warriors supporters.
It sounds like the players we're giving it back after
a few Warriors fans were dishing it out during the game.
Here's Ricky Sture more specifically on some of those incidents
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around aggression. This all came about unprompted by the way
Ricky Stewett talking about his team's approach.
Speaker 8 (08:16):
We could getting told these games about entertainment and that
was an entertaining game tonight. But we can't discipline aggression
because our game, our broadcast is promote aggression. We've got
to be real careful that we don't go and want
to scrutinize aggressive actions in a game that is molded
on pure aggression and passion. On Wednesday night, we've got
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the one of the most special games in our calendar happening,
and it's created the profile and the culture. The passion
of origin is through aggression. My promoting foul play. But
I got panealizing and I don't mean penalizing out there.
But with match review committees, we can't gauge as willing
nelly passion players for aggression.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
And here you are, Michael Burr, just challenging Ricky Stewart's
position as you.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
Say, you feel like you when he releases Joe's when
you release his head. That's what we practice to do.
But we practice releasing the head and less I didn't
say I've said it wrong, but you spoke the referee
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about releasing your head. And I'm not, as I say, like,
I'm not promoting for.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Our playmate, not promoting for oul playmate.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I enjoyed that that little tip for tat there, Michael Burgess,
and look, you're there as a journalist asking the hard
questions which we want to hear and answer from. But
you are on here on the Big League Podcast as
an analyst. You're there live obviously. Did you think the
camera raid has crossed the line?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Probably? Probably?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
I mean, it's a tricky one, isn't it, because you
know that they are a very aggressive team. It's an
aggressive game. All teams have their enforces. I just look
like maybe they pushed the boundaries a bit too much.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
You know.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
I hate crusher tackles, I really do. And sometimes they're accidental,
sometimes they're not. But I didn't like what I saw
with that. There are a couple of high shots, a
couple of shoulder charges, but it just felt like they
were out to intimidate, which you know is part of
the game. And good on them because they were coming
to Mount Smart thirty thousand people.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
They had to do it. They wanted to upset the Warriors.
They did it well.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
The Warriors probably lack enforces in a way without Fisher,
Harrison Barnett on the field, but I thought there probably
could have been another syn been in there, and I
just think Ricky Stewart. You know, origin is different, unusual,
parallel to draw, but also you've just got to you
do still have to protect the players to some degree.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I agree, and look, I thought one of the most
frustrating people out there in the field on Sunday night
was Adam g the referee. He was really trying to
get a handle on both teams, showing real willingness and
intense and agree call it what you like. And then
around the discipline around six to goes and offside penalties,
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he went to the Synburn option. Even then that didn't
seem to prove a deterrent for poor discipline and it
just sort of unraveled for the Earth. Will be interesting
at this point in time as we go to record.
At some stage this afternoon Monday afternoon, the Nral judiciary
will come out with a report looking at those incidents.
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Jacob Laban was the other one on report outside of
the four Raiders incidents.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
That was for something we don't see all that often.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Too, burge a raised leg off a kickoff reception into
the contact into a defenders.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Sorry, so that'll be an interesting one as well.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Let's part that for the time being, though, Let's get
to the Warriors, and look, they had their chances, particularly late.
I mean on another night, ma Arter, their cord reaches
out there and dots it down. He was held up
centimeters short. But look, I think you nailed it in
your report. They were pretty poor during those sinbinning periods.
Not often you see a camera team or an opponent
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go down a player and still able to win the
arm wrestler in terms of posision, field position and the points.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
That's when they scored one of their tries.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And then when Chance Nickel Klukstar was yellowcarded or sinbind
in the second half, camera then scored again. So that
was one that Andrew Webster I'm sure will reflect on
and know that their game drivers need to be better.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
They do.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I mean, that was a key We talk about turning points,
but that was a key turning point. The Raider has
just gone down to twelve men, Warriors hot on the attack,
They've got the lead, gig got momentum. They get a
penalty as well, of course, and they go wide from
that penalty. I think it was Chance that tried to
sort of no look past to Roger on the first
or second tackle. It goes over the sideline and then
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I think on their next set was when Chanelle spilled
the ball and that was just about the only time
they had the ball in that ten minute period. Otherwise
the Raiders were camped in their line. They scored a try,
so I think things started to unravel there because if
the Warriors go to halftime it's a fourteen nil, which
they could have done, then it's a very different game
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and it's probably enough enough to get home. But the
Raiders got back into the game in that period and
they were the ones feeling good at halftime. So yeah,
not making the most of those of those the period
of the symbenning was really really frustrating for the team
and I'm sure the crowd.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Well, let's take away look down at the attack because
I suppose over the last three weeks now two of
which have obviously been wins. But if we look at
the last three weeks, just scored the six tries. One
on Sunday night against Canberra, that being Roger tw e
vasishit good finish in the left wing corner.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And we were.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Talking last week Burge more about it felt like a
slight shift for mine from a positive standpoint on the
fifth tackle options of Shanelle Harris Tavita and Luke Metcalf.
It felt like they were moving in the right direction.
Sunday night against the Raiders. Look, it wasn't easy. We're
the wise against a very good team, missing your two
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premiere props. But so the backs aroundable to perhaps fully
function off front football, but it just looked a little
bit clunky combinations, a little bit off. Ali l'attawa coming
back in on that right center position. Lekahala Sima just
there was a bit of a disconnected there and I
noticed he actually ended up getting subbed off having played
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eighty minutes the week before for a couple of repeated eras.
Here's Andrew Webster's thoughts first.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
On the attack before we unpack it.
Speaker 9 (14:50):
There's some really good attack, there was some frustrating So
it just wasn't going to be a night to go
around them, to try and go hands hands hands.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Well, Roger scored one.
Speaker 9 (14:56):
But after that we tried to do that a couple
of times. It just wasn't a night for that. We
looked on unorganized at times. But we'll call the players
and some blokes turn turning up with the no and
their roles, so something you just got to we've got
to really fix this week.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
What do you make of the attack Verge?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
I mean, Wade Egan made a good point when I
talked to him after the game about the communication was
a bit off, which he said is disappointing because there's
one thing, regardless of other things in the match, the
communication should always be there. But as webs are alluded to,
some of the some of the calls and the plans
went a right. I think the thing here is that
we've got to look a bit deeper. It's not so
much about the fifth tackle options. It's about what's happening
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on tackle two, three and four in the red zone.
Because there's not much happening. So they get to the
fifth tackle, they're not on the front foot, they haven't
asked questions. That offence is swarming all around, and then
it makes it even harder to come up with something
that's the That's the genius of teams like the Storm
is that they do so much earlier in the count
when there in the red zone. By the time they
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get to the fifth tackle, you've got camera Munster or
Pappenhausen or someone who's got or Hughes who's got time
and they set up a play and bomb, So there
are issues there. Metcalf Luke feels like he's still doing
things off the cuff a bit, which is fine because
that's how he plays. But there's there's got to be
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a balance, and there were points in that game weren't
there where the Warriors had a lot of repeat sets
and didn't create too much. There are caveats. The conditions
made it hard. Raiders' defense is amazing. They've got one
of the best defense in the competition. They seem to
be able to slide and jam at the same time,
and they were pushing it with the offside and doing
it well. So you put those treasons together. But there
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had to be a bit more variety, didn't they.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
That was the word I was about to use, variety.
And there's been criticism or scrutiny around, you know, the
same sort of attacking shape or the Warriors being just
a little bit predictable or one dimensional, you know, heading
that short man whether it's near Corda or a Hallaesima
at second row and then trying to play out the
back or trying to get it out to Dallen or
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Roger without sort of earning the rights and as you say,
that's where Melbourne are so effective, was sort of so
much so much going on and attack, creating a decision
in the defensive line, and then ultimately seeing that wilt.
So it will be interesting going forward. Before we move
on Tomighty Martin has been sort of lurking in and
around the interchange role, various roles. He actually ended up
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slotting into fullback with Charles Nickel Klokstar Sinbins in the
second half and then he sort of floated around as
a sort of playmaking locke. I suppose he was a
middle ford really when Chars came back on, Wade Egan
was still on the field.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Is that an option going forward?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Did you like what Tomighty was able to offer or
is that even a case then of cluttering things even further,
because then you've got what is it for playmakers or
trying to do something to inspire something on attack?
Speaker 5 (17:53):
Yeah, I mean it can clatter, can't.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
And you notice when Tomarty does come come in and
try to play make Chanelle sort of takes a bit
of a back seat.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
But I like what Tomati does.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
He's a bit different to his approach, so I think
that's worth per savering with it's a point of difference.
That's what Andrew Webs is thinking. And on Lecky, you
mentioned him before. I think the thing with Leccer we're
forgetting is he's only played a handful of games and
this does happen to young guys.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And maybe you know, I still like him as an
impact player.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
I think he's been great starting, but he's great as
an impact player. Maybe he needs a couple of games
where he's back to being an impact player. Of course,
it's hard to have a guy on the bench as
a second rower. It changes your rotation a bit. But
you know, I wouldn't be too worried about what he
did on Sundays, just a young guy that that'll happen.
He gets targeted and makes a couple of mistakes. There's
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no doubt he's a gun, but you just need to
manage his time.
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Speaker 3 (19:01):
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Love alongside Michael Burges. We're going to get to Sunday's game.
This Sunday's game against South Sydney during our quick fire predictions.
But I did want to get into what's becoming an
age old issue, Burge, and that is, should the NRL
continue during State of Origin? Could we alternatively have a
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three week representative break?
Speaker 4 (19:23):
For example?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And I bring this up because on the weekend we
have five upsets in a condensed round. Maybe I'm just
angry because I went none from five and tipping. But
the Bulldogs, for example, there top of the table, hampered
significantly by losing players to Origin, which game ones on Wednesday,
and are thrashed by the Dolphins. We effectively end up
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getting this for six weeks of the NRAL because it's
both before and after an Origin game which is held
midweek on a Wednesday. And look, I really start feeling
for the good teams who have deserved their place on
the NRAL ladder, who are then unfairly punished having good players.
This issue won't go away, I know, Burge. In the past,
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there's been discussions around do we move into the end
of the year. Doesn't feel like the players really want
to batter themselves after a big NRL season, then have
three weeks of Origin tagged on to the end.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
There'll be expansion at some point with.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
The Perth Bears and the Papua New Guinea team and
potentially another entry to take it to twenty that could
then see a change in the schedule. What is the
answer here, because at the moment it doesn't feel like
we're in a good situation for the competition or the
integrity of the competition, at least that's my view.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 6 (20:40):
I hadn't thought about it exactly how you worded it,
And you're right. The big teams kind of do get punished,
don't they for their performances and having good players that
end the playing origin. I mean, I guess the other
side of that is you've got teams like the Roosters
in the Storm that have a lot of good players
and seem to have a lot of money, and people
wouldn't feel as sorry for them in that way. But
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it's hard to think of other competitions, sporting competitions of
the world where it does become so lopsid a different
times and these teams get effectively burdened for having star players.
The answer is exactly right. There needs to be a break,
ideally with some tests thrown in there. This is another
topic for another podcast Nick, But test match footy is
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becoming more and more irrelevant, and it's so sad because
it's sort of been disappeared to November and by then
a lot of players aren't available on a play, whereas
you've got to at least have one mid year test
with some specific games as well. The problem is it
will never happen because the broadcasters they just need content.
All they care about is content. And if then I
go to them and say, look, we're going to shave,
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We're going to shave three weekends off, they're saying, well,
what do we want in return?
Speaker 5 (21:50):
It's a real shame. What you need here.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
You need the top people at Channel and at Fox
taking a a more holistic view and saying players need
a break. You get better competition, less injuries if you
have a a more realistic season instead of just bloody
burning them like they do to be great.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
You know, I'd really like to know and maybe put
in some inquiries with a Fox or A nine or
a Sky. Is there a dip in broadcast viewership during
this period? Because I look at some of those teams
and I follow NRAL closely and with the greatest respect,
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I haven't heard of some of these guys that are
just popping up Willie Nelly out a reserve grade.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
You know, is that what we want for the competition?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Don't we want our best players playing, as you say,
a content beast. But I'm growing increasingly frustrated around Yeah,
as you say, what other competition does this happen? Where
I know State of Origin is king in terms of
the revenue that's created and the broadcast interest there, but
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we're pulling away forty forty five of the best players
and we're getting to a situation where I think it
might hurt a team in the grand scheme of things,
perhaps making the eight. And look, it's a funny thing
to say in many ways because I know it's benefited
the Warriors over the years. And yes they lost just
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the Mitch Barnett at the week just being but yeah,
I just wonder if there's a simple solution, as you say,
if you then had a break, you can reinvigorate Test football.
I know that complicates things even further because we're currently
got a situation where salm Old and Tonguan players are
playing Origin as well. But who's to say we couldn't
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have a Kiwi's England Series Super leagu'es just finished we
summer tour or something like that.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
P and G. I don't know, But it's a talking.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Point, isn't it, Because I know we're going to get
into our quick fire predictions shortly, but I'm just for
the sake of it going to pick all the teams
that I don't think are going to win, because it's
just an absolute lottery at the moment. Like we both
went none from five and that's purely with team who
are below. We went with basically all favorites. And yeah,
I just wonder is it good for the competition creating
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this this lottery situation when players are absent through origin.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
My argument would be it's not.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
There has been over the years a bit of romance
around this period too, because you had players you haven't
seen before come along, play a couple of games, and
then the next season they're in first grade. And I
remember often they talk about the baby Broncos back in
the days when the Broncos had so many Queensland players,
you know, and they or a Storm team that was
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devoid of a few of their stars, or that the
Storm always been lucky. Because I've drenly had a lot
of Kiwis, so the Kiwis of course are still playing.
So yeah, there's some people like the interests that creates
having some new names in there. But I just think
the other thing is asking way too much of the players.
It's not it's actually it's actually worse. It's worse what
happens this weekend. The fact they're playing an Origin game
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on Wednesday night, which is the toughest thing they do
all year, and then they're expected to back up on
Friday night. You know, you had players in the past
back and a half to forty eight hours. I think
Camera Smith once played on well many times on a
Friday night after playing Wednesday, and they meant to play Friday, Satday, Sunday.
And the bodies aren't aren't designed for that, but they're
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loyal to their club. They're kind of expected to play.
That's crazy stuff. But I think from a welfare point
of view, because then you probably get more injuries this
weekend because of it, et cetera, et cetera. It's another
can of worms. From a welfare point of view, it
needs to be looked at and the next broadcast deal.
Let's hope this is on the.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
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Speaker 3 (25:46):
On that note, Birch, let's get into some quick fire predictions.
We'll start with State of Origin A because Wednesday night,
I know you'll be glued to your TV as will
I an intriguing series. This New South Wales, fair to
say coming in his favorites having won last year, but
that was under Michael McGuire, who is now under serious
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pressure as a Brisbane Broncos here coach Larry Daily comes
back in first game is in Brisbane, so there is
obviously that home advantage there for Queensland.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Which way do you see this one going?
Speaker 5 (26:20):
First of all, Nick, I can't remember are you Are
you a blues.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Man or I'd have to say morons if I was
really pushed. I'm not super passionate about it. But yeah,
if one or the other that I'd go with Queensland.
I think that's just I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I went with that.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Then my stepbrother supported New South Wales and I just
thought it'd be different.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Okay, yeah, I mean I think I think it's still
light a key. We still love Queensland from back in
the Allen Langer Wally Lewis days, I think right. And
then there was a long period when they were the
underdogs for a long time, and then that period where
they were unbeatable for a long time. But for some
reason we seem to follow Queensland and a lot more.
I know that frustrates change. Your Webster's always saying he
runs into so many, so many Queensland fans on his
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walks around around the eastern suburbs. I'm delaying this though,
because I'm really not sure Queensland at home and they
kind of have to win because if you lose the
first game at home it makes the series really really hard.
But it's hard to tip against New South Wales. They
do look like the better team on paper. They look
like they've got more weapons certainly, and probably a bit
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more size. So it's going to take one of those
underdog Queensland spirit type efforts to do it. I think Queensland,
if they win, will have to win it late. New
South Wales is more of a team that could build
a lead and go on with it. So I will,
against my heart, will I will tip New South Wales.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Okay, I'll go Queensland. And as you say, I think, yeah,
they're going to have to grind away almost Warriors esque
where it's just built on effort, scramble, defense and a
couple of key moments. I'm really intrigued actually to see
how Mitchell, Moses and Nathan Cleary combine as a five
eighths halfback duo to sort of Premier seven's in the NRL.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Do we see more of Moses as a runner? Do
we see more of Area is a runner?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Or do they just sort of duel half back if
you like, just own a side of the field each.
But very much looking forward to Wednesday night. Then we
kick into the NRL and what have we got? A
seven game slates? As you mentioned, Bird, there will be some.
I'm just trying to wrap my brain off the top
of my head. Dragons Knights is the Friday night game.
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Newcastle representatives, Kaylen Ponger. You think, surely, Kaylen Ponger wouldn't
back up forty eight hours. We've seen, as you said,
Caam Smith do it in the past, but Dragons Knights
the Nights out of nowhere without Ponger beating Penrith.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
At the weekend, Yeah, there was out of nowhere.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I guess it just shows you know, they would do
to put in a good performance. They've had a terrible season,
but on paper they've still got a good team, so
I was happy for them because it's been pretty miserable
for the nights.
Speaker 5 (29:04):
But I can't see continuing. I think I like the
Dragons in this.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I'm going to go Newcastle because I like the Dragons too.
And this is the NRL, as we know, during the
state of Origin period where nothing makes sense. Three games
late Saturday afternoon, Titans and the Melbourne Storm on the
Gold Coast to kick things off five pm, New Zealand
times at three pm.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
I've talked a lot of Storm players over the years
about this, and I think even Craig Bellamy once and
he just said that they take great pride in their
performance during Origin.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
They're sort of.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Every year they say themselves, right, no matter who we've
got missing or who's not playing, we're still going to perform.
We're still going to bank points and invariably that's what
they do. So I'll back the Storm to keep on
keeping on.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, I'm going to Titans are going to be consistent here.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Cowboys Tigers.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
I love this. I like the Cowboys at home.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
I think Tigers, you know, they're an interesting team. The Tigers,
I don't think their top eight material. Don't think they've
had the They've got this squad that's deep enough to
get to September football. But you know they've had some
had some good wins, but just starting to see some cracks.
So yeah, I think the Cowboys at home will prevail.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, I'm going to be a bit more sensible here
and go with the Cowboys, although again they are you know,
Tom Deeddon for example, state of origin and Joame Low
perhaps are the points to prove having been demoted out
of New South Wales, so that'll be an interesting one,
but I will go the Cowboys are manly Brisbane around
out things on Saturday night, that's at Brookvale.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I think the Broncos will be starting to get a
bit desperate, won't they, because already Michael McGuire is under
so much pressure. Like it hasn't been a great start
to the season. It's been okay, but they've had you know,
a few losses now in the last few weeks, so
they really really need to win this. But they're not
always great when they come to Sydney. Last time they
came to Sydney, they lost. So I really hope the
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Broncos can do it for McGuire's sake, and maybe maybe
they will.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah. I thought Manly were very average without DC, which
I did sort of flag on last week's pod. Thirty
points to ten. They lost to a paramount side without
Mitchell Moses. Yeah, that's a real tough one to pack.
I'll go Manly.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah. I think there's a few things.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Bubbling away off field at Brisbane, which tends to be
every season, but it seems to be getting in the
way of the on field performance right onto the big
one for a lot of fans and listeners of this podcast.
In terms of Warriors on the road facing the South
Sydney rabbit Os, It's a two pm local kickoff at
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Akor Stadium, so four pm Sunday for us here in
New Zealand. James Fisher Harris will be back from suspension.
Mitch Barnett an outside chance. I would have thought he'll
be named either as a starter or on an extended
reserves bench and provided he gets through Wednesday, okay, he
should play rabbit Oze. It's always been a tough one history,
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hasn't it for the Warriors Birds.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
How do you see this one playing now?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (32:12):
I mean It's good that it's a Sunday because that
does give Mitch Bunnett a bit of extra time. Let's
just see how banged up he gets some origin. Hopefully
he's okay because he is vital, as is Fisher Harris.
As we've seen against the Raiders when they're not there. Look,
they've got the rabbit o's and then the week after,
as you said, they've got Creneller away. You would have
thought that the rabbit os is really a game to
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target because Crenella will be extremely tough the way they're going,
So this is a big one. They've got to be
a lot better across the park. They can be a
lot better across the park. The question will be can
they take their chances. I'm sure the yardage game will
be okay, But as you say, you're exactly right. Rabbits
traditionally always cause problem for the Warriors. I remember a
lot of bad losses over the years. I will tip
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the Warriors here to bounce back. I think there's enough
in this team that they can bounce back quickly, but
they'll need to be good.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
They will be They will need to be good.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Rather the one in car uraging sign that I would
point out as yet that the Warriors have been really
good after a loss.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
After the Vegas loss, they won. After the Melbourne mauling,
they won.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
So let's hope that that trend continues and losing streaks
don't become a theme in season twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
So I will go the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Then it's so we wish Sydney, Derby, Penrith and Paramatta.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah, this should be a good one. Actually, shouldn't remember
just a few years ago when these two teams were
two of the best teams of the comp and of
course there was the Grand Final in twenty two.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
So this should be because Paramatta is showing some signs
finally of getting going a bit this year. I'm going
to tip the Panthers though, because it's unusual for them
to have two losses in the role.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
But Seevan teens Burge the last ye.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
They have had a crazy season this year. Yeah, do
you write them off for they gone? Can they still
make the eighth?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
No that I will Nick Buley guarantee here they will
the eight.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
Okay, Oh, I like that. I will have to.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
We'll make a notice and we'll look back. But I
kite agree with you. I was reading a piece in
the Cidny Morning Herald about a month ago where they've
already been written off, saying they can't make the eight.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
They're the kind of team that can constring ten to
eleven games together and suddenly you know they're not going
to be first or second, probably not even top four.
But if they get to fifth or six, they're still dangerous.
So ye, I'll go with the Panthers here to win
the Battle of West Sydney.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, I'm going with the Panthers as well, And just
to illustrate my confidence the Panthers. Yes, there are nine points,
three wins, seven losses, and a drawer against the Cowboys,
but there's just three points separating seventeenth and eighth, so
it seems a long way away, but an actual fact,
when you study the table little bit more, it isn't.
(34:56):
So there's just enough class there and Ivan Cleary's going
to figure it out. They're going to figure it out
at some stage, and they'd be the last team I
want to play first round in September to just round
things out. Birds here and now I'll supposed to be
quick fire predictions, but there's anything but Roosters Raiders, which
in itself has a fair bit of history between these
two teams as well, And I'm sure Ricky Stiett will
(35:17):
be lacking very little motivation to get up against the
Sydney Roosters. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
I think there's still some herd from that from that
Grand Final and a couple of dusty calls. They think
they've got this game. Probably depends on what happens, not
make excuses for myself, but probably depends on what happens
at the judiciary, because if Tarpani and someone else ends
up out, it does change things for them quite a bit.
But I really like what the Raiders are doing this year.
They're they're a good team. Man, They're going to be
(35:44):
right in it in the final. So I'll tip the
Raiders against a resurgent Roosters.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, I'm going to go with the Raiders as well.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I think that is an important caveat to note if
they were to be without a Tarpany or potentially a
Huts and young post origin. But they look like a
very complete team, a very well balanced team. Like the
way they go about their work through the middle, they
make yardage, they're back five.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
I thought we didn't really get to but they were
super impressive.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
The lots of to Balley Savage said Chris, so yeah,
we'll go with the Green Machine to continue.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
To roll on.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
That'll do it. For other edition of The Big.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
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