The Business of Tech

The Business of Tech

The Business of Tech, hosted by leading tech journalist Peter Griffin and BusinessDesk Technology editor Ben Moore. Every week they take a deep dive into emerging technology and news from the sector to help guide the important decisions all Business leaders make. Issues such as cybersecurity, retaining trust after a cyberattack, business IT needs, purchasing SaaS tools and more. New Episodes out every Thursday. Follow or subscribe to get it delivered straight to your favourite podcatcher. @petergnz @bentm_journo @businessdesk_nz


February 21, 2024 50 mins

Canadian journalist, host of the Tech Won't Save Us podcast, and former Wellington resident Paris Marx joins us to discuss the role that technology and the billionaires that control it play in mitigating the impact of climate change.

Plus, the role Aotearoa New Zealand can play in ensuring that emissions mitigation tech is effective at more than just turning a profit.

Plus, we talk about the cellphone bans in schools, cleaning up...

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Since 1998, there has been a global moratorium on charging tariffs for digital services but that may soon come to an end, depending on what happens at the World Trade Organisation conference later this month.

Ben talks to BusinessDesk senior correspondent Dileepa Fonseka about his research into the matter, and what it might mean for Kiwi software companies looking to go global.

Plus, Peter and Ben discuss the need for sovereign a...

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After years of bringing together cloud products, adding a little engineering and business strategy magic, and then implementing and managing bespoke cloud services, Dave Howden is out to do the same thing with AI.

While an AI consulting and services business may not sounds as flashy as an exciting new platform, it's the kind of company that makes up the backbone of a major technological transition.

Peter speaks to Dave about why ...

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January 31, 2024 46 mins

Already in 2024 we are seeing big tech companies like SAP point at AI as a reason to slash headcount, and it's likely we will see more of that to come. This week, technologist and educator Frances Valintine joins to talk about how to stay relevant in the age of AI, and what responsibilities businesses bear to their employees when it comes to learning.

Ben and Peter also share their thoughts on the topic, and look at some recent ne...

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Tech reporter and commentator Rob O'Neill says he likes to "get down among the weeds" and in our first episode for the year, he does exactly that.

We speak to Rob, senior writer for Reseller News, about what he's seeing in his reporting on the IT industry in NZ, and his view of the future for all of the work that's been done on the now-dead water reform and Te Pūkenga IT transformation projects.

Plus, more AI talk, VR/AR, disinfo...

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In March of last year, Judith Collins was but a senior member of parliament for the opposition. Today, she is a senior member of the government, with more ministerial positions than any other member of the National Party government.

Collins spent a significant amount of her time in opposition learning about NZs tech sector, and wooing its members.

It was in March when Peter Griffin spoke to her to ask her thoughts on tech in NZ a...

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Jackson Henry is an Australian ethical or white hat hacker who we spoke to last year.

We only featured him briefly in episode 29 because he was guesting on a lot of shows, but our interview with him was a little different.

He spoke a little more widely about his career path and how he went from cheating at video games to being a part of the white hat team that breached the United Nations

He also delved into what cybersecurity me...

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Back in July of 2023, now last year, Rocket Lab finalised its plans for recovering and reusing engines for its rockets.

Founder and CEO Peter Beck spared some time to chat about what that means for the company.

Plus, he spoke about how he saw the space industry in Aotearoa New Zealand, and where he thought we stood on the global stage.

Since then, Beck hosted the National Party’s pre-election space policy announcement, and the i...

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Mark Clare is the founding and managing partner at Clare Capital, a boutique investment bank that releases a regular tech insights newsletter.

We chose this conversation to feature because not only does Mark offer fantastic insights about listed companies and the public market, but goes wider than that.

He talks about the private capital market, about the value that a strong NZX can bring to the country, the benefits of selling t...

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December 13, 2023 48 mins

It's episode 33, the final full episode for the year. To put a bow on what has been a full on year of tech news, we quickly recap the biggest stories from 2023 from across the world, and in Aotearoa New Zealand.

Then we speak to Merja Myllylahti, a senior lecturer at AUT and co-director of the universities research centre for journalism, media and democracy (JMAD). She recently published her book From Papers to Platform, which scr...

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This week we look back at the NZ tech stock market in 2023 to get a sense of where priorities lie for those investing their capital into the industry, and which stocks to watch in 2024.

We speak to three financial markets specialists, Clare Capital’s founder Mark Clare, and Joshua Dale and Stephen Ridgewell from Craigs Investment Partners to hear about the positives and negatives of higher rates and constrained capital for tech.


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Artificial intelligence exploded onto the scene in a major way in 2023, establishing foundations for a level of disruption that we don't yet fully understand.

In this episode, we speak to Simply Privacy's Frith Tweedie and Frankly AI's Matt Ensor about what we saw in the AI market this year, and where we might see it go in 2024.

We also share our thoughts about the new government's ministerial make-up, and what that might mean fo...

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Easy Crypto CEO and co-founder Janine Grainger joins us to explain why she and her team decided to launch a locally owned wallet, and the NZDD stablecoin pegged to the NZ dollar, and backed 1:1 by funds in the bank.

Plus, we discuss the biggest tech story of the year, the ousting of OpenAI founding CEO Sam Altman, and why the news should matter to Kiwis and their businesses.

Note: When Ben said artificial generative intelligence,...

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Toby Littin features this week’s episode to talk about the global success of Parkable, a company that started in 2015 as a way to connect drivers with people with spare carparks, and has grown into an international parking management platform with the likes of Meta as a customer.

Littin speaks to the changes a company goes through when it moves from start up to scale up, and whether it’s possible to remain a NZ-based company in th...

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This week, Peter talks to stalwart of both the supermarket and telecommunications industries, Ernie Newman.

In the early 2000s, the government intervened to ensure that the monopoly that then-Telecom had on broadband internet industry didn’t last long. What can we learn from those efforts and where should we be putting out hopes for disruption? 

We also chat about the latest tech news including, the governments facial recognition...

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November 1, 2023 45 mins

Peter talks to Lawrence Gasman, the founder of news and research company Inside Quantum Technology, who says that quantum computing and the changes it will bring is now just around the corner.

Whether you’re a total quantum newbie or an industry stalwart this interview will give you something to think about.

We also dig into the latest tech news, including Supie’s downfall and the surprising ups and downs of Big Tech’s Q3 results...

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This week we look into Tātaki Auckland Unlimited's plan to grow the city's tech industry, create high-paying jobs and attract more talent and investment to the region. One year into the three year Tech Tāmaki Makaurau strategy, how are things tracking? 

Tātaki's head of tech and innovation Marissa Brindley joins us to explain how the Auckland Council's economic development arm is helping startups make global connections, attract a...

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On this episode we chat with Emma-Kate Greer, 2degrees' chief corporate affairs officer whose duties include overseeing the telco's emissions reduction and sustainability efforts.

She shares why 2degrees has gone with science-based targets and how it plans to get there, offering a frank look at the challenges faced by the telecommunication industry.

Emma-Kate also offers some insight into where NZ Inc might need to focus in order...

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October 11, 2023 49 mins

With the 2023 general election just days away we have one last episode around tech and politics, this time looking at the fear that concerted and bad-faith social media campaigns are eroding the very fabric of democracy.

We're joined by Ximena Smith from the public interest think tank Brainbox Institute who digs into whether the outcome of democratic elections are really being swung by social media and all its algorithms.

We also...

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Whoever wins the vote at the election, it is going to be a very different government than we have had for most of the past six years. Part of that, is going to be overseeing the contuing digitalisation of business, government and pretty much every other part of our society.

One big project will be enabling digital identification for the residents of Aotearoa, a move that is working its way through the grinding gears of our own par...

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