November 30, 2024 • 40 mins
Home workouts, gym, or a personal trainer - which is more effective?
Alex Flint is a personal trainer at Body Torque joins with the answer.
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It's the Health Hub and joining us. He is a
personal trainer at body Talk. I love a good pun
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t O r q u E. Of course body Talk
it's all about energy momentum. And his name is Alex Flint.
How Alex, how are you? Oh, hang on a minute,
I'll just tell on your microphone then you can say
it again. You're good.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm really good, Tim, Thanks for me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Excellently looking forward to the Christmas season. Yeah you've noticed
the tinsel has gone up around the studio.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah I have. It's been a lovely touch since.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Anyway, Hey, look we're going to talk about well home workouts,
but you know, you know when you should use a
personal trainer and and what you should why people use
personal trainers for one, but the fun one I also
want to touch on, just to get the conversation rolling,
as the worst or the best piece of home workout
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equipment you've ever owned, And there would have been a
time when Alex Flint didn't know much about exercise, so
you may have been that teenager in his room with
the chest expander and the bullworker, thinking that there was
going to make you look like the guy in the ads.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
What's guilty as charged?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
What's the worst ever piece of exercise equipment you've ever owned?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I've had a lot, really. Yeah. At fourteen years of age,
was had every muscle fitness magazine, and I think I
had collected probably in the vicinity of half a dozen
to a dozen home exercise pieces of equipment, all which
were pretty much useless and gave me no results when
compared to the person that I saw in the ad,
who was like an Adonis. So well creaiting for that
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to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Do you think those I mean, I wonder when people
ever work out that the person who's advertising the abdominizer
amazing probably has only held an abominizer in their hands
during the ad and the rest of the time they're
doing other things.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, I'm not sure if they'd even know what the
name of the equipment was, to be honest, but yeah,
they seemed to be able to find the very most
athletically gifted and beautiful looking people to advertise. But yeah,
they don't. They definitely don't use them.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I had the chest expander was my first piece. I
think the thirteen or fourteen year old boy the testosterones hit.
You don't know what to do with yourself. You think
I need I look like I still looked like an
eleven year old. But I've got all these hormones coursing thrown.
I've got to transform myself. And I bought the chest expander,
which was the thing with two handles and a bunch
of chains. That was the running gag was I think
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you could put there were springs, five springs, and depending
on your strength, you would have either one, two, three,
four or five and I think three was hard enough.
And it was a bit of a running gag with
friends about the guy who was only using the one spring.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And ironically the biggest thing about that, you know, you
buy it as a chest expander and it's not actually
even using you it's bad pixels. Yeah, it's using your
back muscles. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I did wonder about that. I thought, you know, any
of your what did you have and was there something
that actually was quite useful?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, well, the first one that came to mind, and
I do remember buying it and I would have been fourteen.
Was the abdominizer. I was trying to think of the
name of it here that you reminded me just as
we started, and that was like an ab roller, so
it was on the ground. It was like you put
your head on a pad and then put your arms
up in the air and sort of rock back and
forth and basically did a crunch. And I think I
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saved up all my paper money for goodness knows how
many weeks to buy that to pretty much do an
abdominal crunch on the floor.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But actually, because there is a way of doing that
with a dumb bell with handles on each side where
you're sort of lying down a press up position, you
roll out and you go back, there's something and that
isn't that?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah. I think at the end of
the day, marketing gets us at the majority of home
exercise equipment purchase late at night. So and I even
know that from my own from my own gym, that
a lot of members sign up when they're when they're
in bed later on in the in the evening, when
they're thinking about doing something. Uh, And that happens very
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much with home exercise equipment. So the times that we
buy am probably our motivation is there because we think
in tomorrow is going to be the day that I start.
We see the marketing and purchase away, but never really
use them unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And I think, of course we're thinking of that infomercial
driven sort of exercise machines, and I think, you know,
let's not say, if you've bought yourself a home a
full home gym with free weights and all that in
the equipment, that's when that's not what we're really talking about.
But there is one piece of exercise equipment somebody's just
reminded me on the text, which is legit if you've
got the budget to get a decent one, and that's
a rowing machine.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Oh absolutely yeah, But what is it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
With see rowing machines? It's obviously it's not still not
going to expand that chest that But what's what's so
good about a rowing machine?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah? I think, just to be fair and to clarify things,
there is some absolutely fantastic home exercise equipment out there.
Probably the biggest thing that we can use to justify
it is actually and clarify it is the cost of
the purchase. So if you're buying something which you're also
going to see in a commercial environment. You know, for example,
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a rowing machine that you'll also see in a gym.
You know, it's a great bit of equipment and it's
going to be around long enough to use it. A
lot of the stuff that we see on infomercials, that's
where the issues lie because they're cheap, they don't last
very long, and they don't necessarily give us much of
a workout really, and so you know, there's a big
differentiation in terms of what's great gear for home and
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what's not. So the first thing that is really fantastic home,
and it's interesting that that's the first one that's come
up in the text, is a rowing machine. So a
rowing machine full body exercise, great for cutting vascular work,
also great for muscular strengths, uses all your back muscles,
your leg muscles. That's also great if your posture, as
long as you use it properly, so you're getting all
of these bang few buck things in one machine.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I've always hated the rowing machines at the gym. When
that you know, you go and see a personal trainer
and they say let's get on the rowing machine. I'm like, ah,
just I, just I don't know what, but I mean,
is there anything it's it's not it's not working your
chest out, is it?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
No? Not really no?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Does it matter?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Well? I mean yeah, I mean there's no one exercise
that's going to be great for everything. We need multiple
things and it's the same. Rowing is a fantastic form
of cardiovascular work and it uses a reasonablemount of muscular
strength and power. But like anything, there's not really a
one size fits all exercise or machine.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Actually that does sound like also a talkback question, to
be honest. I mean, what is if you're going to
do one excess? If you're going to do one thing,
what should it be for me? Up until the point
your knees go? And Greg Pain's going to call me
in a moment saying, what do you mean your need
is going? You're running wrong? But I would argue that
the best piece of home exercise equipment you can get
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as a decent pair of running shoes.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Absolutely, yeah, Ben Guy Beverage for the one. That's the one.
If there's one thing that you can do, get yourself
a pair of running shoes and get outside, start running,
and if that's walking, to start with Greg Pains and
men to talk more about getting people into it, you know,
effectively in a safe way. But yeah, absolutely running is
number one. Having said that, there is a big reason
why we need to include strength training as well.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well, that's actually part of our conversation. We wanted to
have this affternoon because and some of the conversations that
we come up with, you know, is a discussion with
myself and my producer and other people around. But this
one's come from me because I'm walking, because I've had
to take a break from running for a few weeks
just to let a knee settle down. And it's one
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of the things my physio who doesn't like to tell
me what to do, but she has not set a
no to it in the way that's I think she's
telling me I should do strength training again. And I
used to go to do strength training with the four
major well you know, we had left squats and a
couple of others. And so here's the question is around
when should you use a personal trainer? Is it when
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you are and why do people use personal trainers because
everyone have a different reason. For me, I would use
a personal trainer to get good professional advice because I
can motivate myself to turn up, whereas other people get
a personal trainer because it's an appointment they.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Have to keep.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
But let's talk about when it is advisable or very
helpful to have a personal trainer.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, it's a great question, and probably tim your I
would say, a reasonably motivated exerciser and something that's you
know on your mind? Would you say it?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Actually, only because I found something I really enjoy and
I finally got over the hump of running. I used
to hate running, and then I did it enough that
I now it's I will miss it if I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah. So the number one reason when people are interviewed
and they've been in involved in personal training for a
long period of time is believe it or not, it's
out of accountability and motivation is the number one reason.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So it's a date. Basically, I've got a date with Alex.
I can't make it. Even though I'm paying them. I'm
going to let them down if I'm not there.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Regardless of how you know the experience and the expertise
of the personal trainer, it's the fact that someone's waiting
there for you, and that's a hard thing to stand
someone up. Yeah, So that's the first reason. So just
being accountable and turning up and having someone waiting for
you is the number one reason, followed relatively closely by
expertise and professionalism. So obviously in your case, you know,
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if you feel like you need to get back into
strength training and it's something that you want to complement
your running, then just going to the gym and starting
any old programs probably not the right way to go.
You want something which is specific enough to not only
help you run, but maybe also help you stay injury
free or get over any injuries. So that's I guess
where the expertise of a good trainer will lie is
being able to set you up with the right programs
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for what you're out.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
How do you identify a good personal trainer? Because there
will be those who are qualified, and there will be
those who've not necessarily qualified, but they've been doing it
for twenty years and they've learned on the job, and
that's a legitimate way of becoming good at what you
do as well. But how do you actually, yeah, how
do you choose a personal trainer? Apart from obviously Alex Flint, Yeah,
well you.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Could always choose me. Now, I think the biggest thing
that I've found. I'm almost fifty now, and through my
own experience, I feel that it's very important that your
trainer has empathy for your position, and they almost might
have been through a similar stage either in their life,
or they've been through a similar weight loss journey, or
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it might be you know that they've got similar sort
of motivations or goals or backgrounds. So that is something
which I believe is very important. So you're looking for
a trainer which is aligned, I guess with yourself, and
they've probably got a background that means you're going to
have similarities. One of the biggest things that I've found
over time is when I was young, training people that
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were say twenty to thirty years older than me, I
just didn't know how their bodies felt. I didn't understand
injuries the same way I didn't understand the drag that
and not having energy because you've got kids and family
and you know these types of things that can pull
you down. So probably I wasn't as effective training people
that were twenty years older than me when I was
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in my twenties because I just didn't understand. So as
time's gone on, me being able to I guess experience
some of those things myself has also made me experience
it in a way that I have to get better myself.
But also I've got more empathy and more understanding of
how to get the results with certain people.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Does that I guess that means you've changed the way
you do business. I almost wondered whether because this is
the thing, people are impatient. They make an appointment, they
arranged to meet a personal trainer, and probably the most
frustrating thing is for the clients, So they just expect
you to pull out a program, right, let's get into it,
We're onto it, when probably the first thing you want
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to do is interview them and chat to them and
get their priorities where they're like, yes, I want to
get in good shape. Yes, yes, yes, But that is
a huge part of it, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, it is. When people are ready to go, they
make their appointment to see their trainer, or you know,
they start googling online. The motivation factor means that it
is important that they get off to a quick start
and start to see some results, but it's also equally
as important that we make sure that there's a long
term process put into place, because often I think you know,
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associated with personal trainers is you know, short term six
week programs, twelve week programs. We often have people coming
to us at the gym that just want to do
a couple of weeks, you know, big kickstart. But the
problem with that is your risk of injury and your
risk of overdoing it is highest at the start. So
it's almost like there's got to be a pulling back
of expectations and a more long term outlook.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
So for someone who's getting okay, and look, this is
my situation, but there be a lot of people like it,
especially when you've been around a few years. You've been
into a few gyms, you've been out of them, You've
done different exercises, you've done different routines, and you think, oh, look,
I'm just going to go back and I'll do that
simple routine I did five years ago. But intuitively, I'm
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telling myself that I shouldn't just go into the gym
and do that stuff. I should really do it supervised.
That sounds to me because I just I don't really
want to. I just I feel I just want to
rip into it. But my brain's my little Jim and
E Cricket's going no, no, don't do that alone. Go
and see someone and just get them to not nurse
you through it. But you know what I mean, would
that be your advice?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
That's a really sensible way to go about it. I mean,
exercise is relatively simple. What we need to do. You know,
we need to be consistent. If we're strength training, we
need to pick effective exercises, we need to do enough
of it, and we need to do it regularly enough.
Same with cardiovascular work, same with mobility inflexibility work. But
really one of the most important things with this is
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that you almost have a blueprint and you understand how
your body works where it's at, and you meet your
body with a program which is effective for where your
body is at the moment. So even if we talk
about five ten years ago, what worked for you then
may not work for you the same now. And one
of the things that I really recommend that everyone starts
with with a good trainer or just going to a
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gym is actually getting a very effective and reasonably sort
of lengthy assessment program which will give you a blueprint
for where you're at.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
What's that? What's an assessment program?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
So what we do is we do some body scans
seen a match fit we do. We look at it
if I want to know, what the hell's that? Oh
that's you, Yeah, so that's you know. We look at
blood pressure, we look at resting heart rate. If someone
can we get them to go to the doctor and
get some blood tests just so we know that those
types of things are safe. But that also then means, okay,
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we know what your health is like, and if you've
got a healthy body, you've got a responsive body. If
you've got a body which is not so healthy, that
should be your first priority because often if you take
an unhealthy body and push it hard, you're just asking
for you're asking for trouble. So assessments number one and
then figuring out from that what your strengths and weaknesses
are and then tailoring the program based on that. So
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if we find, you know, that someone comes in for
an assessment and they're in really good health and they've
said that their goals are they want to get a
bit stronger, or maybe they've you know, they've got a
half marathon goal, we know we can pretty much move
straight into that. For someone else, they might have really
bad knees which are preventing them from being able to
participate in what they would really love to do later on.
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So the first step for them should be some sort
of rehabilitation program to see how we can get on
and move them down the track.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Is there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I've to generalize, but is there an age where people
are more inclined to seek, you know, a personal trainer,
because obviously you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one year old.
You know, they've got mates, been to the gym, they
probably played sport. They're just going to rip in there
with their mates.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Whereas TikTok is a big I really plays a big
part in that as well. Now really yeah, so in
the younger age groups, might I've got daughters, you know,
they both my fifteen year old she I noticed she
starts she's looking more into exercise online. But you know
the rise of influencers and there is to be fair.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
There'd be some good ones, but there'd be some rubbish ones.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit of a minefield, like there's
some really really good ones and just within the field.
Obviously I sort of follow a lot of that sort
of stuff myself, and there is I think over the
last probably twelve months, there's been a rise in what
you kind of I guess call the rise of sensible advice,
where yeah, there's a sort of almost like a real
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attack or an exposing of the ones which are you know,
look great but don't necessarily care about anything but themselves,
or they don't have a lot of education or experience
in training others.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's a trend that's creeping in that the internet's getting smarter, Yeah,
getting more sensible.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Oh my goodness, that's great. It's yeah, it's long overdue.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, I will want to take your cause on this.
And if you've got any questions for Alex, he's a
personal trainer at body Talk and he's well known. He's
been on You've been on TV. But Getting exports people
to get back into shape. I can't remember what the
name of that show was, match Fit, Match for that's
the one.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
We've had four seasons of match Fit and we've just
got a new one coming out.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, really is it all under wraps?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
It's under wraps, change of players, change of genders, still legendary.
Exports now exports women from around about the same era
that also won World Cups. A bit of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm going to ask you off here and keep it
to myself right. We'll be back in just moment. You
got any questions for Alex, give us a call eight
one hundred and eighty, ten to eighty. But also if
you specifically want to contribute on one of the topics
I've thrown out there. Have you bought a piece of
home exercise equipment which is either fabulous and you swear,
but and you've never looked back and it's changed your
life or maybe not so much. Eight hundred and eighty
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ten eighty. It's twenty five past four.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Oh, be had bells home. I'm behold with bells off,
up the tree and round the presents. Time the Christmas newsical.
It's Christmas Alby Hall with bells. I travel around this
country across the water is dealing work me.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You don't like some friends. You know what we use
not joy ogla.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's Christmas time again and the a year is coming gold,
and I can't dream bender how it longs out. So
I'm bed with bells off. I'm behol with bells off
do tree from the present time. Christmas Eve is gold.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
It's Christmas Alvey Home with bels.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I'm ashamed to say that. Initially when I heard this,
I was like, who the hell is this? And then
my progesser says it's Dolly and Kenny. I was like, oh,
how's this disgraceful? I didn't know that, and then I
listen and I go, of course it's it's Dolly parton
Kenny Kenny Rogers. Anyway, welcome back to show on Tim
Beveriges is the weekend collective of the health Up. My
guest is a personal trainer at body Talk and his
name is Alex Flint, and we're talking about well, when
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do you need a personal trainer and why you know
you can give us. We'd love to have your calls.
If you've got any questions for Alex. Of course you
can give us a call as well and just pick
his brains on maybe an exercise issue or getting fit,
or a well being issue you want to have a
chat with him about. On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
we had a bunch of texts to get into, so
we'll start off with a few of those. Shaw we Alex, Oh,
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well here's one of us. We'll just read this out.
I'm not sure if what was sent through by one
of your friends or something, but it says hi, Tim
a big shout out to Alex and the work he
and his team do it body talk. He's been a
supportive influence on my health journey. Dropped forty kilos. No
longer Oh this is quite amazing. No longer a type
too diabetic and now found the enjoyment and exercise the
key good nutrition, setting, a realistic goal, no goal, no purpose,
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Realize you'll have ups and downs and surround yourself with
positive like minded people. Stay consistent, and a coffee at
five This is what you're talking about me in the
break you said, a coffee at five thirty am gym
class for mental health. Thanks Alex.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
That's some Tony to thank you. Tony. That's pretty awesome though,
wasn't it. Yeah, he's an amazing fellow, Tony. He's done
exceptionally well and he's an example of someone who's had
clarity the whole time through. So he's very clear on
what he needed to do. He had his assessments like
we talked about, he knew what he needed to do
and he just broke that down into micro goals and
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he's done nothing but achieve them all the way along.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Is it easier to have a clarity and purpose when
you he's mentioned there type two diabetes and things. When
you've had a health whammy and you've it's very clarifying
when you get news, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
You'd like to think so, but anecdotally and just through
personal experience, it doesn't work for everyone. So for a
lot of people that actually almost makes them feel more
helpless and they don't know what to do, so it
can become actually quite a hindrance. You would like to
think that, you know, if you get some diagnosis or
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some bad news, that that's the kickstart to you getting
on and changing everything in your life. But unfortunately, know that,
you know, health statistics don't don't work like that. So
you've got to be driven and you've got to be motivated,
and it's and it is really important to have good
people around you.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
On the On the exercise equipment, by the way, which
was your worst piece of exercise equipment? You said you
had bought about a bunch of things. So I threw
that up at the top at the top of the
show because I love a good trivial topic. What was
the worst piece of exercise equipment you bought?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, it was a chess expander. Yeah, yeah, there was.
I don't know if you remember, there was one.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Called a bull worker, So that was the one where
you had.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
The springs and you brought this brings together. Yeah, so
that I was actually too much of a pipsqueak to
even use it. It was too strong for me.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
But yeah, the best thing about the chest expander was
when you know, boys were hitting that age where they're
growing a bit of body here and they'd snags some
chest hairs, and the chest expanderre chest. If you can
open the thing up at all, it was just about
pretty impossible to deal with. Somebody else that says here
the abdominizer ad used to crack me up. The selling
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point was you'll never need another abdominal I can't even
say it, you'll never need another abdominal product. As if
obviously they're they're marketing to people who buy everything that's
on the infomercials on't they Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Absolutely. The statistics are that home exercise equipment this is
a few years old, and we're talking about equipment that
has brought off infomercials is used long term less than
ten percent. So if you buy it, there's a ninety
percent chance that you'll probably use it less than three times.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But that makes sense on me, doesn't it. Imagine if
you met someone who was like, how I bought the abdominis,
I use it every day and literally if they like
postles on that, it's changed my life. Now, actually, let's
get into this thing about for people who are wanting
to get into a new exercise regime, what is an
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accessible way to deal with it? Where Because a lot
of people, cost is relevant, and there are those who
can afford to have a personal trainer, you know, every
session or every third session every week, But what are
the pragmatically, what are the practical ways of getting some
good in put so you don't ruin yourself on your
first outing.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
There is probably the most simple way to do it
is just to start by looking inwardly at what is
it that you think is missing in terms of bringing
you up to being a healthier version of you. So,
first of all, obviously you're going to be you know
what your your goals are, and then the very first
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thing is just sitting down and saying, Okay, where do
I need to get to and how am I going
to get there? So if that might be that you
can simply start with something like walking or running or
going outside, then that's fantastic. If you have something which
is maybe dealing with injury, or you have you know,
you have some goals about maybe running a half marathon,
or you know some people that want to step on
(25:31):
stage and challenge themselves and do something, you know, a
physique contest, then there's a need. There's a need for
you to get professional help pretty quickly. But going back
to when is it time to have a personal trainer,
I think the number one thing is can you be
self motivated? And if you can be self motivated, there
is a lot of information out there now. There's a
lot of relatively low cost programs that you can purchase
(25:54):
or even download for free off the internet that will
get you started. And then from there it really depends.
I mean, you've just got to look at how you're going.
You know, if things are tracking well, then there's no
need to fork out big dollars to get someone for
professional help. But if you feel like you're stagnating, or
you're getting injured, or you don't know what to do,
then that's when you've got to look at it.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I think, I mean, I think the thing is also
knowing how hard you know what pain is good pain. Oh,
I don't mean pain, but you know discomfort. And I
would have thought usually when you once you've got yourself
into the routine of exercising, that most people probably don't
work hard enough. There'll be the odd extreme where somebody
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is absolutely cooking themselves. But I mean, people say, listen
to your body. But every time I've worked with a
personal trainer, if my memory saved me correctly, they were
usually like, I think we're going to add another ten
percent of that term. Oh, I think you'll add a
bit more weight to that. And I'm like, it's hard already.
And then they add a bit more and you're like okay,
and still do it.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah. So progressive overload is the number one concept when
it comes to exercise progression, performance and long term achievement.
So if we think about our body loves to maintain
equilibrium where we are right now, if we do nothing,
we'll go backwards because our body is very efficient at
getting rid of anything that we're not using, be that
muscle tissue, be that aerobic fitness. On the same way,
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if we don't continue to challenge ourselves sensibly over time
through progressive overload, we're going to find that we don't
keep getting better. And there is a lot of cases
where we have people that will go to a gym
that you know, they're through no bad ill or not
wanting anything other than the best for themselves, but they're
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going through the same process, the same motions, over and
over again, not really getting anywhere. So we have to
challenge our bodies over time, having saying that we shouldn't
be having to walk into the gym every time and
then you know, dragging or crawling out. Exactly. It needs
to be enjoyable, but we need to find ways, you know,
so that that might be a little bit more training,
(27:58):
it might be a little bit harder training, or it
might be just some smart ways to get you know,
some more.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Effective after well, we're going to go to a corner,
but remind we've got to talk about dom's because that's
the one where you think you've probably cooked yourself, but
it's possibly unavoidable for that first workout or two. Let's
go to Matt.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Hello, Hey, Tim and Alex. I'm kind of similar age.
You're going going through the getting fitter thing because you
know you're worried about your health, but I just enjoyed
the match foot shows, and I was very sad that
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when el Inger the Winger passed on after one of them.
In hindsight, Alex, do you think he might have pushed
himself a bit hard for his health?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah? May you rest in peace. It was very very
tragic what happened. So just a background, Inger worked incredibly hard.
He had lost about twenty kilograms before the show even started.
He switched off his so he put his type two
diabetes into remission. He's cardiovascular these cardiovascular health was a
(29:11):
lot lot better. Did he push himself too hard? The
health implications that he had potentially were very very long
term and it was one of those it's very hard
to know. Obviously, behind the scenes with all of these
types of shows, he was closely monitored through his exercise.
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He had medical professionals with him the whole way, and
probably you know, there's an element on television where things
are sensationalized a little bit, but he was very much
exercising within his own means. You know, he wasn't being
pushed too hard. So did exercise contribute to him getting
a lot healthier than he had been over the last
sort of ten fifteen years. Absolutely, But yeah, it's just
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very very unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I guess the question around that is matter's just that
it's about if you are middle aged and you'll get
get into something that's not that common, you know, you've
fallen out of the habit. It's just about how do
you manage it so and we can talk about the
extremes that risks that people take, but just how do
you manage it so you don't hurt yourself?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, yeah, and back to the whole assessment and making
sure that the whole way through that you're very aware.
So one of the things that's really important if you
are middle aged and you're getting back into it is
use hard rate monitors and also go and get a
full doctor's check up before you start. So those two
things will you keep you safe to start with, because
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obviously hopefully you've got a decent idea of where your
health is. And then number two, keeping your heart rate
within healthy zones. Just make sure that you're not overdoing it.
And unfortunately there is an inherent risk with any type
of exercise, but you know, it's very very minimal.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
More about managing risk. I mean, life's about managing risks.
I mean you go out for a ride on your
bike and there's a risk not just within your own body.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
M M. Yeah, it's a hard one.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
But yeah, thanks for call Matt. We take going to
take quick moment. It's nineteen minutes to five News Talks.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
He'd be tons of shakes. It's kind of Chevy sixty nine,
How was on?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
How I was on? How was on?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Destination?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And no one as we've won them for some gas,
especially placed the post reveals a.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Smile on the back. Gosh, time's flying on this our
news talks it b We're with Alex Flint talking about
personal trainers and and we've been having a bit of
a fun chat about just the worst of a piece
of exercise equipment you you ever bought? Harold? Hello, how
are you guys? Good?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Thanks Harold?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Okay, now I'm eating two and going on to the
eighty three And and as you said, you have to
see your workout routine as you get older. But one
thing I wanted to ask is please sell this pre
workout powder. And I've been taking some call and I'll explode.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Is that worth my pre workout powder? What's it called?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
They're no explode, no explode.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Alex?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yes, So is that tell us a little bit more
about why why do you take that before before you
work out?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Well, it gives me a little bit more of a
boot will I before I work out? Before I I
don't eat anything before I work out, So I have
a cup of coffee. Then I have that and I'll
explode and it gives me a little bit better routine.
But I don't know if it's harming me or not.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, it's look at the reason that you're taking is
the right reason. The jury is out a little bit
on the long term safety and efficacy of using them.
So they're largely a really big shot of caffeine and
then a few other supplements in with them on the side.
So one of the problems with them can really excuse
(33:05):
me dramatically raise your blood pressure, So as someone in
your eighties, you would want to just be aware of
where your blood pressure is at. And then yeah, so
there's I actually trained an endochronologist and he said that
one of the things that he is very adverse to
is pre workout powders for that reason that they're just
(33:27):
they can be too much of a stimulant. But having
said that, you know, a cup of coffee is a
great way to get a little bit more energy, but
you just have got to be careful about yea.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
What time do you work out, Harold?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I like to work out after I have my get up,
I have my corvee, I wear coak two hours and
until after two hours, then I do a workout in
the morning. Okay, and I like Friday, then two, Thursday,
Saturday three.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Fantastic, awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
How long have you been taking this powder for? Are you?
Were you about to take it?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
No, I've been taking it now for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Okay, Well, you're probably out of the risk of giving
yourself a caffeine shock. I don't know, but.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
There's there's In the last few years there has actually
been a rise of non caffeinated pre workout drinks, which
slightly if you have a look into those, if you
just get online and have a look at and non
caffeinated ones. Yeah, yeah, and they'll still give you a
you know, a boosting energy and something, but potentially might
just be that little bit safer.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
What it be better just to have a banana or something?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Not really the hit doesn't hit you like a coffee does.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
No, I know, but you know it feel safer.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
A banana you know, yeah, definitely. Yeah, when how.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Long before you work out should you have something to
eat just get you through? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Well, I mean if you're looking to build muscle or
create an environment where you're going to have good performance,
you want to be eating within an hour of exercise,
just not huge amounts of food. But then having said that,
some people love to fast before they exercise. Do that,
you know, their exercise fast and not necessarily that great
for fat loss, but they'll do it for one reason
or another. But yeah, nutrition around training can really hype up, and.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
So it can actually make a difference because I've always
thought it was just because the gym's there and you're
in there and the exercise frame of mind you see
no explode or whatever it is, or the latest protein
powder where it's like, just have a decent breakfast, a
decent lunch, and a decent dinner and.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Then yeah, that's number one. Nutrition breakfast, lunch, dinner, that
snacks is most important. One of the things that I
have a discussion with a lot with people is are
you leaning on this because you've got no energy? Like,
is it something that's just don't have the energy that
you should do? So Number one for that is sleep.
How do you sleep? And if that's so, that's where
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we're looking at. So if you've got an energy problem,
no one in the world has as a lack of
pre workout floating around in their bloodstream. There's some other
reason for it.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Okay, right, let's actually tell you what We'll take a
quick break. Can come back in just a moment. It's
eleven minutes two five news talks.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
It be.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Welcome back to news. It's talk, there'd be. This is
the weekend collective of the Health Hub. My guest is
Alex Flint from Body Talk. That's Body Talk with a
T O r que. Look them up on the web
and actually I just typed him body Talking bingo there.
It was a few texts. Actually, Alex should be pleased
to know this person had a bullworker where we were
(36:35):
using it one night in the bedroom and the cable snapped.
It shot through the fluorescent light, which exploded, sounded like
a bomb went off. We got a hiding. I'm guessing
this is from someone who was a teenager at the time.
Worst things you could have been doing in your bedroom. Hi,
first time Jim Garrett sixty personal trainer all the way,
So I stayed safe, didn't hurt myself eight years later,
so fit lost weight. Private gym one on one regards Barbara.
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So there we go, and worst bit of jim gear
the Chuck Norris total gym put all sorts of stress
in all the wrong places. Best kit of a bit
of kit at home as a rower, closely followed by
an assault bike. H well a bike yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah, so AsSalt bike is the one with the movable arms.
They are fantastic. Yeah. I think it's you know, if
you're going to have something at home, having a bit
of gear which is bang for your buck, you know
you don't need to spend a lot of time on it.
It's going to be something that holds up long term,
it's not going to fall apart, and it's actually nice
to be on. So a lot of the cheap stuff
it just doesn't feel like a good exercise experience. So
on as salt bike, a normal bike, a treadmill, a rower,
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they're all things that you know, they stand the test
of time and it's all effective exercise.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Okay, quite a few questions here. We're going to see
if we can squeeze a couple of answers out for ladies.
Over fifty and going through menopause gained a few kilos.
What would you recommend And they've given a choice here, pilates,
yoga or a boot camp.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
It's a difficult one. Exercise is not the way that
you're going to lose weight. Protein in take strength training
their number one and two when it comes to getting
through menopause. The things that you need to really focus
on is bone density, keeping your muscle, and doing that
on the other side, you're going to be a lot
healthier and probably in a position where you're going to
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be able to lose weight and just be in better shape.
So whether it's a boot camp, whether it's pilates, it's
more so the overall putting those other things.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Does menopause actually affect the way your body absorbs and
nutrients and food and everything?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
What?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Yep. So there's big changes in musculo skeletal health through menopause,
and there's also changes in the way that we can
Actually it's called anabolic resistance, so women start to struggle
to uptake the protein that they're eating, so that needs
to go up. Yeah, So the type of exercise should
be the one that you enjoy the most, because if
you enjoy it, there's more chance that you're going to
(38:57):
stick with it. But you've really got to look at
it like, what are the things which are most important
rather than which exercise should I choose? So it's protein intake,
some form of resistance training which you can get from
any one of those three.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Actually, okay, we've got about a minute left. No pain,
no gain true or false.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
In the middle, we definitely need to go through some discomfort,
I would say, but pain absolutely not joint pain. Pain
which makes you feel like you are over exerting yourself
or you're doing too much, is very demotivating, and it's
also a big risk of injury. So we should be
over time challenging ourselves with being a little bit outside
(39:37):
of our comfort zones, but safely.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Difficult to have a decent T shirt though, no pain,
no gain is a good one, But no discomfort.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
No, no discomfort some of the time.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Maybe you should make it up using the font using
one of those exercise sort of aggressive fonts, so it
looks cool. It just has a slightly more subtle and
sophisticated message.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah, I just don't know if anyone can get what
progressive overload meant. That's really what I.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
But no progressive overload. I think just just cram up
the fonts and get and have the body talk over
at the bottom.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Job done. See how it goes? Ok?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Mate, Hey Alex, thanks so much for your time. Mate,
great Devin the studio, Thanks very much for having me on. Yeah,
Merry Christmas too. You know we can say that now
it's first of December. You know we're looking into and
I can say it because next time I'll see you'll
be in the New year.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Probably absolutely, And remember everyone, it's not what you do
between Christmas and New Year's accounts, it's what you do
between New Years and the next Christmas.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
We could have just talked about that right through the show,
but maybe we'll do that next year years resolutions x way. Anyway,
body talk, go and look them up on the web
and we'll be back shortly with Smart Money and Madame
Morales in the studio.
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I like you for Christmas, please make my wish come true.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Oh yes. Actually, the reason I'm playing that as well
is because I am going to give a shout out
because I'm doing a community event. This is me, by
the way, from my Christmas album that I recorded a
few years ago for hospice. It's because I'm doing community
event at the Holy Trinity next Saturday night with the
North Shore Brass and it's a Christmas concert and I
can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to it
(00:46):
because we've had such a busy year and suddenly it's like, oh,
let's get together sing a few Christmas songs. So there
you go. That's my I said to my producer, say,
I didn't say play some tim beverage, but I did
say in different words. Maybe I pretty much said play
that track. Yeah I did, Okay, yes, but I didn't
use it in those words. I didn't say play someth
and beverage. Conceptor sounds very ego centric, doesn't it. Anyway?
(01:09):
Welcome back. The interviews are up for Politic Central, so
you can go online and check them out. Had a
fascinating discussion with Ashley Bloomfield and also Chris Hopkins and
Thomas Coglan on the AGM for Labor and that was
politics central. But right now I guess what we're moving on.
It's the Health Hub and joining us. He is a
personal trainer at body Talk. I love a good pun
(01:31):
t O r q u E. Of course body Talk
it's all about energy momentum. And his name is Alex Flint.
How Alex, how are you? Oh, hang on a minute,
I'll just tell on your microphone then you can say
it again. You're good.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I'm really good, Tim, Thanks for me.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Excellently looking forward to the Christmas season. Yeah you've noticed
the tinsel has gone up around the studio.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah I have. It's been a lovely touch since.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Anyway, Hey, look we're going to talk about well home workouts,
but you know, you know when you should use a
personal trainer and and what you should why people use
personal trainers for one, but the fun one I also
want to touch on, just to get the conversation rolling,
as the worst or the best piece of home workout
(02:15):
equipment you've ever owned, And there would have been a
time when Alex Flint didn't know much about exercise, so
you may have been that teenager in his room with
the chest expander and the bullworker, thinking that there was
going to make you look like the guy in the ads.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
What's guilty as charged?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
What's the worst ever piece of exercise equipment you've ever owned?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I've had a lot, really. Yeah. At fourteen years of age,
was had every muscle fitness magazine, and I think I
had collected probably in the vicinity of half a dozen
to a dozen home exercise pieces of equipment, all which
were pretty much useless and gave me no results when
compared to the person that I saw in the ad,
who was like an Adonis. So well creaiting for that
(02:57):
to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Do you think those I mean, I wonder when people
ever work out that the person who's advertising the abdominizer
amazing probably has only held an abominizer in their hands
during the ad and the rest of the time they're
doing other things.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, I'm not sure if they'd even know what the
name of the equipment was, to be honest, but yeah,
they seemed to be able to find the very most
athletically gifted and beautiful looking people to advertise. But yeah,
they don't. They definitely don't use them.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I had the chest expander was my first piece. I
think the thirteen or fourteen year old boy the testosterones hit.
You don't know what to do with yourself. You think
I need I look like I still looked like an
eleven year old. But I've got all these hormones coursing thrown.
I've got to transform myself. And I bought the chest expander,
which was the thing with two handles and a bunch
of chains. That was the running gag was I think
(03:46):
you could put there were springs, five springs, and depending
on your strength, you would have either one, two, three,
four or five and I think three was hard enough.
And it was a bit of a running gag with
friends about the guy who was only using the one spring.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
And ironically the biggest thing about that, you know, you
buy it as a chest expander and it's not actually
even using you it's bad pixels. Yeah, it's using your
back muscles. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I did wonder about that. I thought, you know, any
of your what did you have and was there something
that actually was quite useful?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, well, the first one that came to mind, and
I do remember buying it and I would have been fourteen.
Was the abdominizer. I was trying to think of the
name of it here that you reminded me just as
we started, and that was like an ab roller, so
it was on the ground. It was like you put
your head on a pad and then put your arms
up in the air and sort of rock back and
forth and basically did a crunch. And I think I
(04:40):
saved up all my paper money for goodness knows how
many weeks to buy that to pretty much do an
abdominal crunch on the floor.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
But actually, because there is a way of doing that
with a dumb bell with handles on each side where
you're sort of lying down a press up position, you
roll out and you go back, there's something and that
isn't that?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah. I think at the end of
the day, marketing gets us at the majority of home
exercise equipment purchase late at night. So and I even
know that from my own from my own gym, that
a lot of members sign up when they're when they're
in bed later on in the in the evening, when
they're thinking about doing something. Uh, And that happens very
(05:19):
much with home exercise equipment. So the times that we
buy am probably our motivation is there because we think
in tomorrow is going to be the day that I start.
We see the marketing and purchase away, but never really
use them unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
And I think, of course we're thinking of that infomercial
driven sort of exercise machines, and I think, you know,
let's not say, if you've bought yourself a home a
full home gym with free weights and all that in
the equipment, that's when that's not what we're really talking about.
But there is one piece of exercise equipment somebody's just
reminded me on the text, which is legit if you've
got the budget to get a decent one, and that's
a rowing machine.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Oh absolutely yeah, But what is it.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
With see rowing machines? It's obviously it's not still not
going to expand that chest that But what's what's so
good about a rowing machine?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah? I think, just to be fair and to clarify things,
there is some absolutely fantastic home exercise equipment out there.
Probably the biggest thing that we can use to justify
it is actually and clarify it is the cost of
the purchase. So if you're buying something which you're also
going to see in a commercial environment. You know, for example,
(06:29):
a rowing machine that you'll also see in a gym.
You know, it's a great bit of equipment and it's
going to be around long enough to use it. A
lot of the stuff that we see on infomercials, that's
where the issues lie because they're cheap, they don't last
very long, and they don't necessarily give us much of
a workout really, and so you know, there's a big
differentiation in terms of what's great gear for home and
(06:49):
what's not. So the first thing that is really fantastic home,
and it's interesting that that's the first one that's come
up in the text, is a rowing machine. So a
rowing machine full body exercise, great for cutting vascular work,
also great for muscular strengths, uses all your back muscles,
your leg muscles. That's also great if your posture, as
long as you use it properly, so you're getting all
of these bang few buck things in one machine.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I've always hated the rowing machines at the gym. When
that you know, you go and see a personal trainer
and they say let's get on the rowing machine. I'm like, ah,
just I, just I don't know what, but I mean,
is there anything it's it's not it's not working your
chest out, is it?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
No? Not really no?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Does it matter?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Well? I mean yeah, I mean there's no one exercise
that's going to be great for everything. We need multiple
things and it's the same. Rowing is a fantastic form
of cardiovascular work and it uses a reasonablemount of muscular
strength and power. But like anything, there's not really a
one size fits all exercise or machine.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Actually that does sound like also a talkback question, to
be honest. I mean, what is if you're going to
do one excess? If you're going to do one thing,
what should it be for me? Up until the point
your knees go? And Greg Pain's going to call me
in a moment saying, what do you mean your need
is going? You're running wrong? But I would argue that
the best piece of home exercise equipment you can get
(08:08):
as a decent pair of running shoes.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Absolutely, yeah, Ben Guy Beverage for the one. That's the one.
If there's one thing that you can do, get yourself
a pair of running shoes and get outside, start running,
and if that's walking, to start with Greg Pains and
men to talk more about getting people into it, you know,
effectively in a safe way. But yeah, absolutely running is
number one. Having said that, there is a big reason
why we need to include strength training as well.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Well, that's actually part of our conversation. We wanted to
have this affternoon because and some of the conversations that
we come up with, you know, is a discussion with
myself and my producer and other people around. But this
one's come from me because I'm walking, because I've had
to take a break from running for a few weeks
just to let a knee settle down. And it's one
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of the things my physio who doesn't like to tell
me what to do, but she has not set a
no to it in the way that's I think she's
telling me I should do strength training again. And I
used to go to do strength training with the four
major well you know, we had left squats and a
couple of others. And so here's the question is around
when should you use a personal trainer? Is it when
(09:15):
you are and why do people use personal trainers because
everyone have a different reason. For me, I would use
a personal trainer to get good professional advice because I
can motivate myself to turn up, whereas other people get
a personal trainer because it's an appointment they.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Have to keep.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
But let's talk about when it is advisable or very
helpful to have a personal trainer.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, it's a great question, and probably tim your I
would say, a reasonably motivated exerciser and something that's you
know on your mind? Would you say it?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Actually, only because I found something I really enjoy and
I finally got over the hump of running. I used
to hate running, and then I did it enough that
I now it's I will miss it if I couldn't.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah. So the number one reason when people are interviewed
and they've been in involved in personal training for a
long period of time is believe it or not, it's
out of accountability and motivation is the number one reason.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So it's a date. Basically, I've got a date with Alex.
I can't make it. Even though I'm paying them. I'm
going to let them down if I'm not there.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Regardless of how you know the experience and the expertise
of the personal trainer, it's the fact that someone's waiting
there for you, and that's a hard thing to stand
someone up. Yeah, So that's the first reason. So just
being accountable and turning up and having someone waiting for
you is the number one reason, followed relatively closely by
expertise and professionalism. So obviously in your case, you know,
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if you feel like you need to get back into
strength training and it's something that you want to complement
your running, then just going to the gym and starting
any old programs probably not the right way to go.
You want something which is specific enough to not only
help you run, but maybe also help you stay injury
free or get over any injuries. So that's I guess
where the expertise of a good trainer will lie is
being able to set you up with the right programs
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for what you're out.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
How do you identify a good personal trainer? Because there
will be those who are qualified, and there will be
those who've not necessarily qualified, but they've been doing it
for twenty years and they've learned on the job, and
that's a legitimate way of becoming good at what you
do as well. But how do you actually, yeah, how
do you choose a personal trainer? Apart from obviously Alex Flint, Yeah,
well you.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Could always choose me. Now, I think the biggest thing
that I've found. I'm almost fifty now, and through my
own experience, I feel that it's very important that your
trainer has empathy for your position, and they almost might
have been through a similar stage either in their life,
or they've been through a similar weight loss journey, or
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it might be you know that they've got similar sort
of motivations or goals or backgrounds. So that is something
which I believe is very important. So you're looking for
a trainer which is aligned, I guess with yourself, and
they've probably got a background that means you're going to
have similarities. One of the biggest things that I've found
over time is when I was young, training people that
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were say twenty to thirty years older than me, I
just didn't know how their bodies felt. I didn't understand
injuries the same way I didn't understand the drag that
and not having energy because you've got kids and family
and you know these types of things that can pull
you down. So probably I wasn't as effective training people
that were twenty years older than me when I was
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in my twenties because I just didn't understand. So as
time's gone on, me being able to I guess experience
some of those things myself has also made me experience
it in a way that I have to get better myself.
But also I've got more empathy and more understanding of
how to get the results with certain people.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Does that I guess that means you've changed the way
you do business. I almost wondered whether because this is
the thing, people are impatient. They make an appointment, they
arranged to meet a personal trainer, and probably the most
frustrating thing is for the clients, So they just expect
you to pull out a program, right, let's get into it,
We're onto it, when probably the first thing you want
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to do is interview them and chat to them and
get their priorities where they're like, yes, I want to
get in good shape. Yes, yes, yes, But that is
a huge part of it, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, it is. When people are ready to go, they
make their appointment to see their trainer, or you know,
they start googling online. The motivation factor means that it
is important that they get off to a quick start
and start to see some results, but it's also equally
as important that we make sure that there's a long
term process put into place, because often I think you know,
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associated with personal trainers is you know, short term six
week programs, twelve week programs. We often have people coming
to us at the gym that just want to do
a couple of weeks, you know, big kickstart. But the
problem with that is your risk of injury and your
risk of overdoing it is highest at the start. So
it's almost like there's got to be a pulling back
of expectations and a more long term outlook.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
So for someone who's getting okay, and look, this is
my situation, but there be a lot of people like it,
especially when you've been around a few years. You've been
into a few gyms, you've been out of them, You've
done different exercises, you've done different routines, and you think, oh, look,
I'm just going to go back and I'll do that
simple routine I did five years ago. But intuitively, I'm
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telling myself that I shouldn't just go into the gym
and do that stuff. I should really do it supervised.
That sounds to me because I just I don't really
want to. I just I feel I just want to
rip into it. But my brain's my little Jim and
E Cricket's going no, no, don't do that alone. Go
and see someone and just get them to not nurse
you through it. But you know what I mean, would
that be your advice?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
That's a really sensible way to go about it. I mean,
exercise is relatively simple. What we need to do. You know,
we need to be consistent. If we're strength training, we
need to pick effective exercises, we need to do enough
of it, and we need to do it regularly enough.
Same with cardiovascular work, same with mobility inflexibility work. But
really one of the most important things with this is
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that you almost have a blueprint and you understand how
your body works where it's at, and you meet your
body with a program which is effective for where your
body is at the moment. So even if we talk
about five ten years ago, what worked for you then
may not work for you the same now. And one
of the things that I really recommend that everyone starts
with with a good trainer or just going to a
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gym is actually getting a very effective and reasonably sort
of lengthy assessment program which will give you a blueprint
for where you're at.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
What's that? What's an assessment program?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
So what we do is we do some body scans
seen a match fit we do. We look at it
if I want to know, what the hell's that? Oh
that's you, Yeah, so that's you know. We look at
blood pressure, we look at resting heart rate. If someone
can we get them to go to the doctor and
get some blood tests just so we know that those
types of things are safe. But that also then means, okay,
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we know what your health is like, and if you've
got a healthy body, you've got a responsive body. If
you've got a body which is not so healthy, that
should be your first priority because often if you take
an unhealthy body and push it hard, you're just asking
for you're asking for trouble. So assessments number one and
then figuring out from that what your strengths and weaknesses
are and then tailoring the program based on that. So
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if we find, you know, that someone comes in for
an assessment and they're in really good health and they've
said that their goals are they want to get a
bit stronger, or maybe they've you know, they've got a
half marathon goal, we know we can pretty much move
straight into that. For someone else, they might have really
bad knees which are preventing them from being able to
participate in what they would really love to do later on.
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So the first step for them should be some sort
of rehabilitation program to see how we can get on
and move them down the track.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Is there.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I've to generalize, but is there an age where people
are more inclined to seek, you know, a personal trainer,
because obviously you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one year old.
You know, they've got mates, been to the gym, they
probably played sport. They're just going to rip in there
with their mates.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Whereas TikTok is a big I really plays a big
part in that as well. Now really yeah, so in
the younger age groups, might I've got daughters, you know,
they both my fifteen year old she I noticed she
starts she's looking more into exercise online. But you know
the rise of influencers and there is to be fair.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
There'd be some good ones, but there'd be some rubbish ones.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit of a minefield, like there's
some really really good ones and just within the field.
Obviously I sort of follow a lot of that sort
of stuff myself, and there is I think over the
last probably twelve months, there's been a rise in what
you kind of I guess call the rise of sensible advice,
where yeah, there's a sort of almost like a real
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attack or an exposing of the ones which are you know,
look great but don't necessarily care about anything but themselves,
or they don't have a lot of education or experience
in training others.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's a trend that's creeping in that the internet's getting smarter, Yeah,
getting more sensible.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Oh my goodness, that's great. It's yeah, it's long overdue.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, I will want to take your cause on this.
And if you've got any questions for Alex, he's a
personal trainer at body Talk and he's well known. He's
been on You've been on TV. But Getting exports people
to get back into shape. I can't remember what the
name of that show was, match Fit, Match for that's
the one.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
We've had four seasons of match Fit and we've just
got a new one coming out.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, really is it all under wraps?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
It's under wraps, change of players, change of genders, still legendary.
Exports now exports women from around about the same era
that also won World Cups. A bit of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm going to ask you off here and keep it
to myself right. We'll be back in just moment. You
got any questions for Alex, give us a call eight
one hundred and eighty, ten to eighty. But also if
you specifically want to contribute on one of the topics
I've thrown out there. Have you bought a piece of
home exercise equipment which is either fabulous and you swear,
but and you've never looked back and it's changed your
life or maybe not so much. Eight hundred and eighty
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ten eighty. It's twenty five past four.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Oh, be had bells home. I'm behold with bells off,
up the tree and round the presents. Time the Christmas newsical.
It's Christmas Alby Hall with bells. I travel around this
country across the water is dealing work me.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You don't like some friends. You know what we use
not joy ogla.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's Christmas time again and the a year is coming gold,
and I can't dream bender how it longs out. So
I'm bed with bells off. I'm behol with bells off
do tree from the present time. Christmas Eve is gold.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
It's Christmas Alvey Home with bels.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I'm ashamed to say that. Initially when I heard this,
I was like, who the hell is this? And then
my progesser says it's Dolly and Kenny. I was like, oh,
how's this disgraceful? I didn't know that, and then I
listen and I go, of course it's it's Dolly parton
Kenny Kenny Rogers. Anyway, welcome back to show on Tim
Beveriges is the weekend collective of the health Up. My
guest is a personal trainer at body Talk and his
name is Alex Flint, and we're talking about well, when
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do you need a personal trainer and why you know
you can give us. We'd love to have your calls.
If you've got any questions for Alex. Of course you
can give us a call as well and just pick
his brains on maybe an exercise issue or getting fit,
or a well being issue you want to have a
chat with him about. On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
we had a bunch of texts to get into, so
we'll start off with a few of those. Shaw we Alex, Oh,
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well here's one of us. We'll just read this out.
I'm not sure if what was sent through by one
of your friends or something, but it says hi, Tim
a big shout out to Alex and the work he
and his team do it body talk. He's been a
supportive influence on my health journey. Dropped forty kilos. No
longer Oh this is quite amazing. No longer a type
too diabetic and now found the enjoyment and exercise the
key good nutrition, setting, a realistic goal, no goal, no purpose,
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Realize you'll have ups and downs and surround yourself with
positive like minded people. Stay consistent, and a coffee at
five This is what you're talking about me in the
break you said, a coffee at five thirty am gym
class for mental health. Thanks Alex.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
That's some Tony to thank you. Tony. That's pretty awesome though,
wasn't it. Yeah, he's an amazing fellow, Tony. He's done
exceptionally well and he's an example of someone who's had
clarity the whole time through. So he's very clear on
what he needed to do. He had his assessments like
we talked about, he knew what he needed to do
and he just broke that down into micro goals and
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he's done nothing but achieve them all the way along.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Is it easier to have a clarity and purpose when
you he's mentioned there type two diabetes and things. When
you've had a health whammy and you've it's very clarifying
when you get news, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
You'd like to think so, but anecdotally and just through
personal experience, it doesn't work for everyone. So for a
lot of people that actually almost makes them feel more
helpless and they don't know what to do, so it
can become actually quite a hindrance. You would like to
think that, you know, if you get some diagnosis or
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some bad news, that that's the kickstart to you getting
on and changing everything in your life. But unfortunately, know that,
you know, health statistics don't don't work like that. So
you've got to be driven and you've got to be motivated,
and it's and it is really important to have good
people around you.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
On the On the exercise equipment, by the way, which
was your worst piece of exercise equipment? You said you
had bought about a bunch of things. So I threw
that up at the top at the top of the
show because I love a good trivial topic. What was
the worst piece of exercise equipment you bought?
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah, it was a chess expander. Yeah, yeah, there was.
I don't know if you remember, there was one.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Called a bull worker, So that was the one where
you had.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
The springs and you brought this brings together. Yeah, so
that I was actually too much of a pipsqueak to
even use it. It was too strong for me.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
But yeah, the best thing about the chest expander was
when you know, boys were hitting that age where they're
growing a bit of body here and they'd snags some
chest hairs, and the chest expanderre chest. If you can
open the thing up at all, it was just about
pretty impossible to deal with. Somebody else that says here
the abdominizer ad used to crack me up. The selling
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point was you'll never need another abdominal I can't even
say it, you'll never need another abdominal product. As if
obviously they're they're marketing to people who buy everything that's
on the infomercials on't they Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Absolutely. The statistics are that home exercise equipment this is
a few years old, and we're talking about equipment that
has brought off infomercials is used long term less than
ten percent. So if you buy it, there's a ninety
percent chance that you'll probably use it less than three times.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
But that makes sense on me, doesn't it. Imagine if
you met someone who was like, how I bought the abdominis,
I use it every day and literally if they like
postles on that, it's changed my life. Now, actually, let's
get into this thing about for people who are wanting
to get into a new exercise regime, what is an
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accessible way to deal with it? Where Because a lot
of people, cost is relevant, and there are those who
can afford to have a personal trainer, you know, every
session or every third session every week, But what are
the pragmatically, what are the practical ways of getting some
good in put so you don't ruin yourself on your
first outing.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
There is probably the most simple way to do it
is just to start by looking inwardly at what is
it that you think is missing in terms of bringing
you up to being a healthier version of you. So,
first of all, obviously you're going to be you know
what your your goals are, and then the very first
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thing is just sitting down and saying, Okay, where do
I need to get to and how am I going
to get there? So if that might be that you
can simply start with something like walking or running or
going outside, then that's fantastic. If you have something which
is maybe dealing with injury, or you have you know,
you have some goals about maybe running a half marathon,
or you know some people that want to step on
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stage and challenge themselves and do something, you know, a
physique contest, then there's a need. There's a need for
you to get professional help pretty quickly. But going back
to when is it time to have a personal trainer,
I think the number one thing is can you be
self motivated? And if you can be self motivated, there
is a lot of information out there now. There's a
lot of relatively low cost programs that you can purchase
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or even download for free off the internet that will
get you started. And then from there it really depends.
I mean, you've just got to look at how you're going.
You know, if things are tracking well, then there's no
need to fork out big dollars to get someone for
professional help. But if you feel like you're stagnating, or
you're getting injured, or you don't know what to do,
then that's when you've got to look at it.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I think, I mean, I think the thing is also
knowing how hard you know what pain is good pain. Oh,
I don't mean pain, but you know discomfort. And I
would have thought usually when you once you've got yourself
into the routine of exercising, that most people probably don't
work hard enough. There'll be the odd extreme where somebody
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is absolutely cooking themselves. But I mean, people say, listen
to your body. But every time I've worked with a
personal trainer, if my memory saved me correctly, they were
usually like, I think we're going to add another ten
percent of that term. Oh, I think you'll add a
bit more weight to that. And I'm like, it's hard already.
And then they add a bit more and you're like okay,
and still do it.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah. So progressive overload is the number one concept when
it comes to exercise progression, performance and long term achievement.
So if we think about our body loves to maintain
equilibrium where we are right now, if we do nothing,
we'll go backwards because our body is very efficient at
getting rid of anything that we're not using, be that
muscle tissue, be that aerobic fitness. On the same way,
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if we don't continue to challenge ourselves sensibly over time
through progressive overload, we're going to find that we don't
keep getting better. And there is a lot of cases
where we have people that will go to a gym
that you know, they're through no bad ill or not
wanting anything other than the best for themselves, but they're
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going through the same process, the same motions, over and
over again, not really getting anywhere. So we have to
challenge our bodies over time, having saying that we shouldn't
be having to walk into the gym every time and
then you know, dragging or crawling out. Exactly. It needs
to be enjoyable, but we need to find ways, you know,
so that that might be a little bit more training,
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it might be a little bit harder training, or it
might be just some smart ways to get you know,
some more.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Effective after well, we're going to go to a corner,
but remind we've got to talk about dom's because that's
the one where you think you've probably cooked yourself, but
it's possibly unavoidable for that first workout or two. Let's
go to Matt.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Hello, Hey, Tim and Alex. I'm kind of similar age.
You're going going through the getting fitter thing because you
know you're worried about your health, but I just enjoyed
the match foot shows, and I was very sad that
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when el Inger the Winger passed on after one of them.
In hindsight, Alex, do you think he might have pushed
himself a bit hard for his health?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah? May you rest in peace. It was very very
tragic what happened. So just a background, Inger worked incredibly hard.
He had lost about twenty kilograms before the show even started.
He switched off his so he put his type two
diabetes into remission. He's cardiovascular these cardiovascular health was a
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lot lot better. Did he push himself too hard? The
health implications that he had potentially were very very long
term and it was one of those it's very hard
to know. Obviously, behind the scenes with all of these
types of shows, he was closely monitored through his exercise.
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He had medical professionals with him the whole way, and
probably you know, there's an element on television where things
are sensationalized a little bit, but he was very much
exercising within his own means. You know, he wasn't being
pushed too hard. So did exercise contribute to him getting
a lot healthier than he had been over the last
sort of ten fifteen years. Absolutely, But yeah, it's just
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very very unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I guess the question around that is matter's just that
it's about if you are middle aged and you'll get
get into something that's not that common, you know, you've
fallen out of the habit. It's just about how do
you manage it so and we can talk about the
extremes that risks that people take, but just how do
you manage it so you don't hurt yourself?
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yeah, yeah, and back to the whole assessment and making
sure that the whole way through that you're very aware.
So one of the things that's really important if you
are middle aged and you're getting back into it is
use hard rate monitors and also go and get a
full doctor's check up before you start. So those two
things will you keep you safe to start with, because
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obviously hopefully you've got a decent idea of where your
health is. And then number two, keeping your heart rate
within healthy zones. Just make sure that you're not overdoing it.
And unfortunately there is an inherent risk with any type
of exercise, but you know, it's very very minimal.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
More about managing risk. I mean, life's about managing risks.
I mean you go out for a ride on your
bike and there's a risk not just within your own body.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
M M. Yeah, it's a hard one.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
But yeah, thanks for call Matt. We take going to
take quick moment. It's nineteen minutes to five News Talks.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
He'd be tons of shakes. It's kind of Chevy sixty nine,
How was on?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
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Speaker 1 (31:26):
Destination?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And no one as we've won them for some gas,
especially placed the post reveals a.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Smile on the back. Gosh, time's flying on this our
news talks it b We're with Alex Flint talking about
personal trainers and and we've been having a bit of
a fun chat about just the worst of a piece
of exercise equipment you you ever bought? Harold? Hello, how
are you guys? Good?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Thanks Harold?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Okay, now I'm eating two and going on to the
eighty three And and as you said, you have to
see your workout routine as you get older. But one
thing I wanted to ask is please sell this pre
workout powder. And I've been taking some call and I'll explode.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Is that worth my pre workout powder? What's it called?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
They're no explode, no explode.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Alex?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yes, So is that tell us a little bit more
about why why do you take that before before you
work out?
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Well, it gives me a little bit more of a
boot will I before I work out? Before I I
don't eat anything before I work out, So I have
a cup of coffee. Then I have that and I'll
explode and it gives me a little bit better routine.
But I don't know if it's harming me or not.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, it's look at the reason that you're taking is
the right reason. The jury is out a little bit
on the long term safety and efficacy of using them.
So they're largely a really big shot of caffeine and
then a few other supplements in with them on the side.
So one of the problems with them can really excuse
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me dramatically raise your blood pressure, So as someone in
your eighties, you would want to just be aware of
where your blood pressure is at. And then yeah, so
there's I actually trained an endochronologist and he said that
one of the things that he is very adverse to
is pre workout powders for that reason that they're just
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they can be too much of a stimulant. But having
said that, you know, a cup of coffee is a
great way to get a little bit more energy, but
you just have got to be careful about yea.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
What time do you work out, Harold?
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I like to work out after I have my get up,
I have my corvee, I wear coak two hours and
until after two hours, then I do a workout in
the morning. Okay, and I like Friday, then two, Thursday,
Saturday three.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Fantastic, awesome.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
How long have you been taking this powder for? Are you?
Were you about to take it?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
No, I've been taking it now for a couple of years.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Okay, Well, you're probably out of the risk of giving
yourself a caffeine shock. I don't know, but.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
There's there's In the last few years there has actually
been a rise of non caffeinated pre workout drinks, which
slightly if you have a look into those, if you
just get online and have a look at and non
caffeinated ones. Yeah, yeah, and they'll still give you a
you know, a boosting energy and something, but potentially might
just be that little bit safer.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
What it be better just to have a banana or something?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Not really the hit doesn't hit you like a coffee does.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
No, I know, but you know it feel safer.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
A banana you know, yeah, definitely. Yeah, when how.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Long before you work out should you have something to
eat just get you through? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Well, I mean if you're looking to build muscle or
create an environment where you're going to have good performance,
you want to be eating within an hour of exercise,
just not huge amounts of food. But then having said that,
some people love to fast before they exercise. Do that,
you know, their exercise fast and not necessarily that great
for fat loss, but they'll do it for one reason
or another. But yeah, nutrition around training can really hype up, and.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
So it can actually make a difference because I've always
thought it was just because the gym's there and you're
in there and the exercise frame of mind you see
no explode or whatever it is, or the latest protein
powder where it's like, just have a decent breakfast, a
decent lunch, and a decent dinner and.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Then yeah, that's number one. Nutrition breakfast, lunch, dinner, that
snacks is most important. One of the things that I
have a discussion with a lot with people is are
you leaning on this because you've got no energy? Like,
is it something that's just don't have the energy that
you should do? So Number one for that is sleep.
How do you sleep? And if that's so, that's where
(35:47):
we're looking at. So if you've got an energy problem,
no one in the world has as a lack of
pre workout floating around in their bloodstream. There's some other
reason for it.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Okay, right, let's actually tell you what We'll take a
quick break. Can come back in just a moment. It's
eleven minutes two five news talks.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
It be.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Welcome back to news. It's talk, there'd be. This is
the weekend collective of the Health Hub. My guest is
Alex Flint from Body Talk. That's Body Talk with a
T O r que. Look them up on the web
and actually I just typed him body Talking bingo there.
It was a few texts. Actually, Alex should be pleased
to know this person had a bullworker where we were
(36:35):
using it one night in the bedroom and the cable snapped.
It shot through the fluorescent light, which exploded, sounded like
a bomb went off. We got a hiding. I'm guessing
this is from someone who was a teenager at the time.
Worst things you could have been doing in your bedroom. Hi,
first time Jim Garrett sixty personal trainer all the way,
So I stayed safe, didn't hurt myself eight years later,
so fit lost weight. Private gym one on one regards Barbara.
(36:58):
So there we go, and worst bit of jim gear
the Chuck Norris total gym put all sorts of stress
in all the wrong places. Best kit of a bit
of kit at home as a rower, closely followed by
an assault bike. H well a bike yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
Yeah, so AsSalt bike is the one with the movable arms.
They are fantastic. Yeah. I think it's you know, if
you're going to have something at home, having a bit
of gear which is bang for your buck, you know
you don't need to spend a lot of time on it.
It's going to be something that holds up long term,
it's not going to fall apart, and it's actually nice
to be on. So a lot of the cheap stuff
it just doesn't feel like a good exercise experience. So
on as salt bike, a normal bike, a treadmill, a rower,
(37:38):
they're all things that you know, they stand the test
of time and it's all effective exercise.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Okay, quite a few questions here. We're going to see
if we can squeeze a couple of answers out for ladies.
Over fifty and going through menopause gained a few kilos.
What would you recommend And they've given a choice here, pilates,
yoga or a boot camp.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
It's a difficult one. Exercise is not the way that
you're going to lose weight. Protein in take strength training
their number one and two when it comes to getting
through menopause. The things that you need to really focus
on is bone density, keeping your muscle, and doing that
on the other side, you're going to be a lot
healthier and probably in a position where you're going to
(38:21):
be able to lose weight and just be in better shape.
So whether it's a boot camp, whether it's pilates, it's
more so the overall putting those other things.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Does menopause actually affect the way your body absorbs and
nutrients and food and everything?
Speaker 2 (38:35):
What?
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Yep. So there's big changes in musculo skeletal health through menopause,
and there's also changes in the way that we can
Actually it's called anabolic resistance, so women start to struggle
to uptake the protein that they're eating, so that needs
to go up. Yeah, So the type of exercise should
be the one that you enjoy the most, because if
you enjoy it, there's more chance that you're going to
(38:57):
stick with it. But you've really got to look at
it like, what are the things which are most important
rather than which exercise should I choose? So it's protein intake,
some form of resistance training which you can get from
any one of those three.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Actually, okay, we've got about a minute left. No pain,
no gain true or false.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
In the middle, we definitely need to go through some discomfort,
I would say, but pain absolutely not joint pain. Pain
which makes you feel like you are over exerting yourself
or you're doing too much, is very demotivating, and it's
also a big risk of injury. So we should be
over time challenging ourselves with being a little bit outside
(39:37):
of our comfort zones, but safely.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Difficult to have a decent T shirt though, no pain,
no gain is a good one, But no discomfort.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
No, no discomfort some of the time.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Maybe you should make it up using the font using
one of those exercise sort of aggressive fonts, so it
looks cool. It just has a slightly more subtle and
sophisticated message.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah, I just don't know if anyone can get what
progressive overload meant. That's really what I.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
But no progressive overload. I think just just cram up
the fonts and get and have the body talk over
at the bottom.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Job done. See how it goes? Ok?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Mate, Hey Alex, thanks so much for your time. Mate,
great Devin the studio, Thanks very much for having me on. Yeah,
Merry Christmas too. You know we can say that now
it's first of December. You know we're looking into and
I can say it because next time I'll see you'll
be in the New year.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Probably absolutely, And remember everyone, it's not what you do
between Christmas and New Year's accounts, it's what you do
between New Years and the next Christmas.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
We could have just talked about that right through the show,
but maybe we'll do that next year years resolutions x way. Anyway,
body talk, go and look them up on the web
and we'll be back shortly with Smart Money and Madame
Morales in the studio.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
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