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Gooday there, and welcome to the rewrap for Tuesday, All
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S Allen. Of course, now the Treaty principles? Is the
government a bit out of touch and specifically, as Chris
lux In a bit out of touch with all this
polling suggests that he might be. Are the banks overreaching
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with some of the decisions they're making about who they
will and won't loan to Trump? Gold Trump? Has he
ever got a loan from the bank? Is even paid
back alone? None of that's really up for debate today.
We've got some news about him anyway, about when he
becomes president next year, and we'll finish up talking about
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the latest thing that they've found out isn't as bad
for you as you thought it might have been and
might actually be good for you. That's my favorite kind
of thing before any of that pole time. Yeah, it's
a pole or ama and it's not good. Well, it's
sort of good news, but not good news for Christopher Luxen.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We've had a flurry of polls just in the last
twenty four hours. Of all of them, I mean, I
think most I think we can agree most of them
don't matter because it's a couple of years away from
the election. So but I think of all of them,
the one out this morning as the most important by far,
because this is actually the polling I've been waiting for
months now. I've wanted to know how people feel about
the Treaty Principal's Bill, and now we've got it. So
what it is is it's done by Curier Polling on
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behalf of Hobson's pledge, and it measures the support basically
for the general ideas of the Treaty Principal's Bill. I reckon,
I'm going to run you through the numbers, but I
reckon that this is the clearest proof yet that our
Prime Minister is making a mistake by killing off the
Treaty Principal's Bill, because his own supporter is actually like
what's in that bill. So, according to this poll, hardly
any National Party voters want things to stay the way
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they are. They do not like it with the Treaty
Principles only nine percent of them want the courts to
keep on deciding what the Treaty Principal's bill, but what
the Treaty principles are, that's the status quo. Nine percent
want the Treaty Principles to stay in the status quo
or whopping fifty nine percent want to do it differently.
They want either Parliament or ask the people to decide,
which is basically exactly what the Treaty Principles Bill is
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intending to do. More than three quarters of National Party
voters want universal human rights to trump any special rights
that anybody may perceive that the Treaty confers. Now, I
think what you're seeing here is that part of the
reason that Chris Luxon is having a tough time in
the polls in general is because if you're a National
Party voter and you care about treaty issues and race
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relation issues, then National is at risk of losing you
to Act because National is not doing what you want,
but Act is doing what you want. And even if
you don't care about treaty issues, which a lot of
people don't, then what you're seeing as a Prime Minister
who is scared to actually have an opinion on this
and do something right, So on ice, I've got it,
I've got I've got to be honest about it. It's
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on something judging by this polling, that I think most
of us have an opinion on, even if we even
if we don't rate it as something that's very important
to us. Once we're asked to have an opinion, we've
got an opinion. So how can we have an opinion
but our Prime minister doesn't have an opinion? Being a
wars is never that attractive, right Truly? The other polls
out that that came out yesterday don't matter. It's too
far away from the election for that stuff to matter.
But this poll matters because it's never great for a
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party leader to be on the opposite side of the
debate from his own party members.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah, I mean it's always hard to know, isn't it?
How presidential our election process has become because you're not
voting for Christopher Lapson really in any way, you're just
voting for the party and it's you know, it's a
bit like what we've seen in Australia. I don't think
anybody really wants to vote for Peter Dutton, but they
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just want to not vote for labor. I think that's
the problem there, so we wrap Yeah, certainly. I mean,
you know he Hither asked Christopher Luxon this morning if
you'd seen the poll about his response to the Treaty principles,
and he said he hadn't. And I think because he's
not overly worried about polls. But some poles you've got
to be worried about, don't you.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Here the once again Chris Luckson just threw a sidestep
about the Treaty Principal's bill doesn't want to go there.
It's so obvious it's going to be his downfall. Hither,
we want both the treaty a Treaty bill done and
the economy Hither feel free to tell Chris Luckson at
sixty three years of age, having voted National all my life,
I've emailed both Nationals headquarters and Chris Bishops saying if
it doesn't support the Race Relations Bill from Act, they
will have lost my vote for the remainder of my life.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So what I was quoting to Chris Luckson was just
the breakdown of the National Party voters right and what
they think. But I'll give you, I'll give you the
breakdown across all voters. So this is across green voter's,
labor vot voters, national voters. Massive majority support the fundamental
ideas behind the Treaty Principles Bill. So when people were asked,
who do you think should have a final say on
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what the Treaty principles are? The judiciary and the White
Tonguey Tribunal being basically the status quot those guys who
currently decide what the Treaty principles are. Only twenty seven
percent of people said yeah, leave it with the leave
it with the judges, leave it with the White tonguey Tribunal.
Fifty four percent of people double it said that they
wanted to be up to us via a referendum or
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up to Parliament to decide what should happen with the
Treaty principles. And then on the issue of like do
you have special rights conferred by the treaty so special
EEWI rights or just universal rights that trump everything, again
massive majority saying we want universal rights. Only twelve percent
said go for the special treaty rights. Sixty two percent
say go for the universal rights. So if you were wondering,
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and I have been wandering for months. Now, where where
does the support lie? Is it going to be popular
or overwhelming? Not even a question overwhelmingly popular? What actor
is doing. It's whether people can kind of get into
the that they support the general idea, whether they understand
that is what is going on with the treaty Principle's belt,
which is quite complicated. I don't know, but yeah, Chris
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Luxon definitely not on the popular side of this one.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah. I do wonder how many times do you can
you get away with saying that I don't really take
any notice of poles until somebody gets asked a question
and a poll. Do you think that such and such
a person there's a bit out of touch? You see
what I'm saying? You know? Okay, well, let's just move
on then rewrap ethical banking. It's a thing. Apparently people
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are actually being refused loans because they're in the wrong
sort of business or are.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
They Yesterday, something that happened which is reasonably significant, A
long running court case came to an end at least
for now, and the B and Z has one permission
to shut down Glory of Vale's bank accounts. Now. I
actually fel quite uncomfortable about this, and I'm not uncomfortable
because I'm a fan of Glory of OL's quite the opposite.
I think the place is weird. I'd like to see
it close, to see the people there realized just how
weird their situation is. And so I guess, on the
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face of it, I should actually like what B and
Z is doing because it will effectively and quite possibly
actually end up shutting down Gloria Val because without a bank,
how on earth is Gloria Val going to be able
to continue. I mean, no one else is going to
bank them. They've tried. This is why they took the
court case, because they were trying to force B and
Z to keep their bank accounts open because without these
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bank accounts, it be in Z basically can't do business anymore.
Can They can't do anything? Really? I mean, you think
about your situation in the modern world. If you didn't
have a bank account, you can't survive. It's how you
get paid, It's how you pay your power bills, it's
how you get a mortgage to be able to buy
a house. It's how you order things from overseas with
the credit card that the bank gives you. Absolutely everything
nowadays requires you to have a bank account. And yet
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I still, despite the fact that I don't like Gloria
Vale and the fact that I would like them to
close down, I still do not think this is the
right thing for B and Z to be doing. Because
of the precedent that this sets, banks can shut your
account if they don't like what you're doing. By the
looks of things, doesn't have to be criminalism, don't have
to like it. And I think there's already too much
of this moral police and coming from the banks. I mean,
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have a look at what's already going on. We got
the Aussie banks here imposing penalties in our dairy farmers
because they think that they're not cutting emissions big enough.
You've got Kewibank already pledging to stop banking coal mining
businesses because they an't like that. You've got B and
Z who will not let a couple of women run
who are running a sex toy shop open bank accounts
because B and Z doesn't like sex toy shops. By
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the looks of things, there is a massive d banking
scandal playing out in the US where even Milania Trump
reckons that her account will shut down after the January
sixth rides. It's already played out in the UK with
Nigel Farage, And to be fair to banks, it's not
as if this is something that they've just taken up recently.
I mean, remember, these are the guys who wouldn't let
women take out mortgages unless a male relative said it
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was okay, and we're talking as recently as the nineteen eighties. Now.
I get that it's a bank's right to stop doing
business with whoever it wants to and refuse to do
business with whoever it wants to. I just don't like
the bank's reason for why they're doing this, because if
it's Gloria of today a couple of girls selling sex
toys tomorrow, who comes next?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Now I'm not okay with the intricate details of the story.
So is it possible that part of the consideration to
not granting the loan for a sex toy shop is
that they looked at it as in terms of a
business case and thought, oh, I know, it's not really
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a good option. And do people who don't get loans
for things because the bank's decided it's not really viable
as a business the idea? Do they then just shout oh, no,
ethical banking, come to get me. Don't get me wrong.
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I'm not trying to defend the banks. I'm just raising
that as a possibility. And as I say, not o
fay with the details. So probably completely wrong. Right now,
we've got some news from one Donald Trump about to
be president for the second time.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Donald Trump has announced he will refuse the presidential salary.
It's actually not bad. It's a four hundred thousand salary,
he says. I'm not going to accept a salary. No,
I didn't take it the first time. By the way,
I got no credit for that. But that's okay. Well,
it's obviously not okay.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's just a brag, not a humble brag.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Is that what that is.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
It's just a brag. Yeah, that's a brag winge actually
as a winge brag. I didn't and I'm not going to.
I just feel it's for me. It's a nice thing
to do. So that is nice from him. If he
does this, which he says he's going to do, take
him at his word, he will be the first ever
president to do it two times.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I'm assuming that that is true and that they didn't
pay him verse time round. But sometimes I feel like
Donald Trump sees these things and then doesn't actually, like,
you know, send the note to payroll, say hey, don't forget,
don't pay me. It's a bit like, you know, during
the campaign, there's quite a lot of times for reading.
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You know, he'd like, go to the pizza shop by
everybody pizza and then you wonder did he actually do
that or did nobody end up picking up the bell
and the pizza shot just goes, oh, well, I guess
that just happened. You know, it's got that feeling about it.
I'm sure he did. I'm sure he's very generous the rewrap.
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I'm not sure if he's into sweet treats. I know
he eats McDonald's, but I'm not sure if he is
a Sunday with the McDonald's. Great news from here there
are on sweet treats, though.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Got a little bit of good news for you. If
you've got especially if you've got a sweet tooth, or
if you're pregnant, or if you just you know, want
to enjoy your life. Apparently you can have a couple
of sweet treats a day, and not only is it
not going to do you any harm, it actually looks
like it might be doing you some good. So if
you go in you have yourself a couple of pastries
or chocolates or sweets, and you do that a couple
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of times a day lowers your risk of heart attack
and stroke. Now this is out of a study out
of Sweden. They tracked like quite a large number of sweeds,
about seventy thousand to them, and they tracked them for
twenty two years. So it's a reasonable period of time,
is ral. So it's not just like oh, mate, woke
up down to otargo and went, let's do this for
three months. Like these guys properly leaned into this study
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and they asked these seventy thousand sweeds over twenty two
years to track what they were eating and drinking. And
they found that eating things like pastries and chocolates and
sweeds twice a day was linked to a twenty five
percent lower risk of a stroke and a twenty two
percent lower risk of a heart attack. And then if
you switch to the honeys and the jams and the marmalades,
and you're putting that on your toast, and you're putting
it on your porridg you're putting it wherever you want
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basically linked to an eleven percent reduction in heart failure. Now,
the differences do not confuse this with sugary drinks, because
that has a completely different impact on you. Apparently, if
you're drinking the pepsi and the colas and the fruit
juices and the sodas and even the diet stuff which
people think is okay, it's really not okay. All of
that stuff linked to an increased risk of stroke, heart
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failure and the heart problems and all that stuff. Now,
the thing about this as the scientists don't know why,
because that's not what they were looking at. They were
just looking at what happens. So it's it's correlation rather
than causation. They don't know why this leads to you
having potential even if it does lead to it just
can be a complete coincidence that all these people have
lower risks of strokes and heart attacks.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I sometimes I think with this sort of thing, that
is the kind of person who allows themselves to have
a few sweet treats. Are they just sort of a
little bit more easy going and a little bit stressed
and a little bit less wound up about things?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
This is what I was going to get to you
haven't got anxiety. You're not stressing yourself out by being like, oh,
I have to do my intimatedent fasting and only drink
my lemon TEA Am I describing somebody?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I feel like there's somebody, but I just maybe can't
think who that would be.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Nobody around here.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah at the moment. Not not, not right now. If
you're the kind of person who's like ah sized size
ten size to welb, who cares? I have a good life.
I'm gonna I'm just gonna enjoy myself a little bit
of a cake. And you're chilled out, that's probably.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
And by that we don't mean cold plunging, none of
that cold showers.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Now, you don't want to be like, you know, religiously
in your sauna at three pm, out into the cold
for breakfast, standing on one foot while brushing your teeth
like all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I can't think anybody like that.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Too much stress, that's what's your problem. That's your problem
right there.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So I've just got a question about portion sizes with
the sweet treats. Like there's a king sized bar of
topic chocolate, does that count as one sweet treat? Or
do I have to spread that out across several days
from that to just asking for a friend, I am
Glen Hart. That was the rewrap. We'll be back with
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more lovely treats for you tomorrow se then
Speaker 1 (15:02):
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