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Hey everybody, welcome to The Large nerdrun Collider, the podcast
that's all about the geeky things happening in the world
around us and how very excited we are about them.
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I'm Aerial casting and with me as always is long
time favorite never out of Style, Never out of this
is not working, but he does. Jonathan Strickland. Wow, that's
that's possibly the second greatest introduction I have ever received.
Thank you, Ariel, And in return, I have a question
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for you. Oh yeah, a question, so Ariel, as always,
I start this episode with a question. I did not
think this one up ahead of time because I just
realized that, wait, that's something I'm supposed to do. So
here's here's your here's your off the cuff question, if
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you couldn't have it any classic television series, like you
are living in the world of that TV series and
I'm talking about a series from say the late eighties
or earlier, which one would you pick? I'm gonna go
with the easy answer. And you know, not a lot
of thought put into this, but probably I love Lucy
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because I got red hair, and she's got red hair,
and she's a goofball and I'm a goofball. So it
just seems like an easy transition and fit. What about you, Well,
if I'm going to live in any nostalgic television series,
it's going to be w k RP and Cincinnati because
I've already got the job skills to talk on the
microphone and be a DJ, and uh, it'd be it'd
be an easy transition. Plus some pretty awesome tunes in
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that era, and uh, you know, as Dr Johnny Fever's
got the night shift. So today we've got our our
roundup of news in the geek sphere, and we start
off with something that is equally absurd, and I guess
not not so much shocking as it is like, well,
of course they did, So what is that aerial Alright,
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So KFC Kentucky Fried Chicken has come out with a
gaming console and I thought at first that this was
a huge old joke, especially after they came out with
their Colonel Sanders Love short film early this Christmas Sees Yes,
with Mario Lopez playing the Colonel. But I should have
known because KFC really likes to shoot for the fences.
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Set out that phrase shoot for the moon, you know,
aim for the fences, something like that, something like that. Anyhow,
you know with the KFC double down, they they like
to experiment and have fun, and uh, this time they're
having fun with a game console. So it is a
gaming device that also has a chamber to keep your
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KFC chicken warm, which I will say he's a good
thing because KFC chicken, once it gets cold and you
have to reheat it is not fantastic. But also better
to eat it cold, no the cold, crispy or not KFC.
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When they're hot and they're fresh, they're good. After that,
I'm picky about reheating my chickens. So it's it's a thing.
But but also, fried chicken is not really a great
gaming snack because it gets your finger salt oily and
then you're catching whatever controls that you're using, and so, uh,
you know, it's interesting. It says that it's cross platform,
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so I don't know what that means. So I'm pretty
sure that we would just call this a like a
gaming PC like this is this is just a gaming rig.
It's not like it's an Xbox or a PlayStation, which
arguably those are also at this point more or less
just very specialized gaming computers. And um, A couple of
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things on that I would think of is that one,
it does sound like it's a pretty powerful machine based
on on the specs that have been released. Two, we
don't know if or when this thing will ever be
available for purchase. It may very well be that there
is one it exists, but it will never become a
commercial product. That's a possibility. Or Two, when it does
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become available, if it does, we don't know how much
it's gonna cost. And three, my main thought was that this,
like you were saying, fried chick can end video games
not a great combination, not just because it gets your
fingers all greasy, but if you've ever had to clean
out like an oven or anything where you've been cooking
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greasy food, it leaves that film over everything, and I
would imagine like, even though I know the airflow for
this device is to pull air away from the electronic
components up through the chamber where the chicken is and
then out through the top, I would be worried about
that build up of of oily residue affecting the electronics
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below and drastically reducing the useful life of that particular
piece of hardware. I say that as the host of
a tech podcast, it just doesn't sound like a good
idea to me. Moving on, our next story is that
we heard recently that some of James Duhan's remains that
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as the actor who played the original Scottie on Star Trek,
the original eas uh, some of them have ended up
aboard the International Space Station and have actually been up
there for uh more than a decade now. And this
story goes along with the fact that he wanted to
have his remains uh shot into space, you know, sort
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of a sort of a nod to him as his
role in a very popular science fiction franchise, and one
part of his remains is criminated. It remains were in
a rocket that failed to reach orbit, so that one
did not quite make it into space. Another was uh
pushed out the airlock of of a spacecraft, but that
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minute just eventually deorbited and burned up on re entry.
The third, though, appears to have been smuggled aboard the
International Space Station by Richard Garriott, who is also known
as Lord British, the creator of the Ultima series of
computer games, who in two thousand and eight was one
of a very small number of private citizens whoever got
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a chance to visit the International Space Station. He paid
about thirty million dollars to do it, and as a
favor to one of James Dewan's relatives, he brought with
him a plaque that had James doing on it and
a little bit of his remains and then hit it
below the floorboards of part of the International Space Station.
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So since two thousand and eight, Scotty's remains are part
of it have been aboard the International Space Station. Um,
I don't know if it's going to stay up there now,
but that was something I read today. I mean, I'm
not too mad by it, like that's I'm fine with it.
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A weird thing, nonetheless, and we thought we would open
this show with a couple of weird notes but the
rest are are some pretty straightforward things, and it starts
to kind of tie into some of the other stuff
we'll talk about in this episode. One is that we
now know what Warner Brothers strategy is going to be
moving forward. After one. We already reported about how the
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company is going to release all of its movies simultaneously
to theaters and to the HBO Max streaming service. But
that's not what's going to happen after that, right, No,
well maybe two. We don't know, but they're planning on
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releasing their movies in theaters once again. I know that
in a previous episode we worried that theaters might be
going by the wayside, and I say, I stay worried
because Jonathan and I both like a movie theater experience sometimes.
But it seems like the studios, whether it's due to
h production companies saying no, please don't just release us
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on streaming, or whether they are really banking on the
movie theater industry rebuilding, are planning on still using movie
theaters and I happy about it. I'm happy about two.
And as we've kind of alluded to in previous episodes,
this might be It's probably is a necessity if we
expect to get the same kind of films that we've
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become used to over the last couple of decades, because
without those box office returns, you don't have the financial
incentive to produce blockbuster movies, not at the budgets that
we've been seeing. So without the movie theaters, movies are
not going to be the same. So I think this
is more good than bad. But it does mean that
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they're counting on movie theaters having a major comeback. I
mean that being said. You know, Wonder Woman eighty four
released this Christmas, and despite not having a big box
off his opening, uh, they are already in plans to
make a third one. Yep, it's already been greenlit. The
film pulled in sixteen point seven million dollars upon its debut, which, again,
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if you look at recent blockbuster releases from like twenty
nineteen or earlier, that that would be considered a colossal
failure most terms, But in a year where many theaters
are are shut down, like their entire theater chains that
are shut down, and a lot of people are quarantining
at home, sixteen point seven million dollars is nothing to
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sneeze at. So we know that Patty Jenkins has been
signed to direct the third film, so just as she
did the first two. Uh, and both of us have
seen Wonder Woman eighty four At this point, Ariel, do
you want to give like a non spoilery reaction to
what you felt about the movie? Sure, the opening was
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this is can be super vague. The opening was better
than I expected. I had seen like a little They
released the opening clip from Wonder Woman on YouTube prior
to the movie releasing, uh, and it was okay. But
when I watched the clip in its entirety, as opposed
to what had just been released on YouTube, I get
very excited. Um. I think all of the characters really
committed to the roles they were playing. And of course,
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you know, going In is a bit of a comic
superhero supervillain nerd. I knew who all the characters were,
and I knew some of their history outside of this movie,
and so I was able to connect with that For
people who, like some of my my family who have
seen the movie, who um, weren't really familiar with who
Robert Minerva was or Max Lord Maxwell Lord, you know,
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the reveals for them kind of came too late in
the movie for them, like it didn't quite have the
piecing for growth that someone coming in fresh would need.
And for me, it just felt like there were some
really fantastic moments and there was some really great character work,
but plot wise, I felt like they jumped, especially in
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the last third of the movie, from point A to
point C, without a lot of interconnecting tissue between the points.
And so for me personally, I enjoyed it, but if
I think about it too hard, it falls a little flat. Yep.
Same here, I felt like I felt the movie was bloated.
It's two and a half hours long, so I felt
that the movie was too long, and yet I also
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felt like there was a lot of connective tissue, as
you say, that's missing, Like there was a lot of jumping,
you know, like we have to put this scene in
because this thing has to happen, but we don't have
the time to connect it to the previous scene. And
even as someone who's familiar with comic books and someone
who was really paying attention during this movie, I was
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confused by the progression because I kept feeling like we
were missing out on a connected scene and that was
really frustrating for me. There was also some questions I
had that never get answered in that movie. One big
one that I'm not going to ask because it's a
it's an integral part. But maybe after we record, I'll
ask you, Ariel, what you thought? Um and yeah, I
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found it largely unsatisfying. I thought, as you say, the
performances were fine. I thought the tone was all so
very strange, Like the tone went all over the place,
from very lighthearted and almost home alone esque with the
opening hist sequence, to really dark and disturbing stuff. Um.
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So it was very It seemed like a very inconsistent
film to me. That being said, I also thought that
the first Wonder Woman film was a billion times better,
apart from the fact that their third act and in
the first Wonder Woman movie also kind of goes off
the rails. But my hope is that One Woman three
will be more like the first film and less like
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the second film. It also makes me worried a little
bit about Rogue Squadron, another movie that Patty Jenkins is directing,
although again we should also remember that writing and directing
are two different things. Yes, and and you know, It's
been this weird balance in the Justice League between Snyder's
vision for the d C EU and what the writer's
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visions are for each individual move, and some of the
audience saying we don't want something quite this dark. So
it's been a weird balancing act they've been trying to
figure out. You know, I'm still I'm still enjoying it
enough that I'm happy to let them continue to try
as long as they're willing, because I have enjoyed you know,
I liked Aquaman enough. I enjoyed the character again. The
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character work in Justice League was really good, even though
the story was oh hum for me, you know, I
liked the First Wonder Woman things like that. But that
being said, um, kind of to tie the last story
in with this one. I read right before we started
recording that even though they were releasing movies to movie
theaters in three they are also planning on releasing at
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Shock or things like that. So we'll see what happens.
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to all of the DC streaming network stuff, because that
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we've got a lot to talk about with some nostalgic pieces,
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so we're gonna start talking about retro and nostalgic pieces.
We've got a couple of other news items that fall
in with this, one of those being the Cobra Kai series,
which originally released on YouTube Premium. It was a YouTube
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Premium exclusive. Now it is a Netflix original starting with
season three, and we learned that they're going to actually
release season three one week earlier than had previously been reported. Yeah,
January one, So happy New Year's everyone. Uh you know,
cover Kai is one of those ones where I have
a lot of of fun nostalgia for the Karate Kid.
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It took me a little bit to get into the series,
but I think they're doing a really good job with it.
And I think, you know, seeing Zabka go in all
the times from like having little uh cameos and all
these other shows I've it does make me go, huh,
I wonder how Johnny would have turned out. And so
I've been really enjoying the series for that. And it's
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fund that's building on that internet meme of who was
the real villain in Karate Kid? Yeah, another man, It's
just like this week, looking at all of the geek news,
it's all been nostalgia. Another one of those was news
about the Barbie vague news about the Barbie movie that
is in theory coming out sometime in the future that
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they've been trying to make for fields a few years now. Yeah,
Originally there were talks of a live action Barbie movie.
I mean at least as as early as twenty fifteen,
if not sooner or earlier, rather not sooner, but but
those projects never really came to fruition. But currently there's
a project that's helmed by Uh Greta Gerwig and Noah
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bomb Bach, who have written lots of movies together and
separately and directed movies separately, who are working on this,
and Margot Robbie is the actress who is attached to this,
and um, we don't know much except to that Robbie
said that the movie is both faithful to the intellectual
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property and yet is not what you think it is,
which seems like that's an impossible combo. Yeah. Yeah, And and
and honestly, of all these things of yeah, we'll get it,
we'll get into this once we get past the last
couple of news items, of all the things that are nostalgic,
and I'm like, I really don't want them to mess
with the original story. Barbie is one that I don't
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particularly care if they I mean, the whole point of
Barbie is to imagine new things. So yeah, I I
personally I thought that the way Barbie was uh imagined
in the Toy story movies worked really really well, Like
it was a fun imagining of that character. A live
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action one. I've definitely like, yeah, I don't even know
what to expect. I mean, for one thing, the the
toy has a lot of baggage attached to it when
it comes to things like building up unrealistic body image
expectations and that sort of thing. I mean, there's a long,
long history of criticism directed towards the toy for that reason.
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So it does make me curious how they will or
if they will even address that at all overtly or
in subtext in the movie. I don't know. I just don't. Yeah,
I guess, I guess we'll see if if this one
actually launches and takes off and gets through production. Uh.
You know, we also got another trailer for Want of
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Vision that's coming up this week, and that you know
that show is also making a lot on nostalgia and
would Leave It to Beaver and Grady Bunch. You know,
it goes through all of these old sitcoms. Is Wanda
is trying to imagine a perfect world to live in
with visions, So at least that's what we assume is
going on. It's really hard to tell because we don't
know if the world she inhabits, which is clearly a
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sitcom inspired world like the Brady Bunch and the Partridge
Family and the Leave It to Beaver and all those
kind of shows, maybe even a little bit of I
Love Lucy and there too. All these things are are
clearly part of it, but we don't know if this
is Wanda's own creation, as she's you know, falling into madness,
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which would be kind of similar to a storyline that
actually played out in the comics, or if she's been
trapped there by some other entity. I've seen one guy
who's really really swinging hard for it, being Mephisto, who's
behind everything. Um, we just don't know, but yes, that
nostalgia element is definitely a big part of that trailer.
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And then finally we have a trailer. This was actually
the one that kind of got us into thinking about
this episode in the first place, because Ariel saw the
trailer and then sent it my way for me to
look at. And it's a film called Max Cloud, which
I had no awareness of until Ariel sent me the link.
It looks like a lower budget movie, but it has
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some some i would say, pretty middling to high names
attached to it. It's got the woman from the new
James Bond movie who's also and Captain Marvel, and someone
from Westworld and someone from Legends of Tomorrow. It's so
it's got all of these successful actors in it, but
it looks kind of like a a B level movie,
and it's, uh, you know, we're talking about nostalgia, and
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everything we've mentioned so far is banking off of a
property that previously existed, and this movie is banking off
of people's love for um eighties video gaming and that
sort of feel of movies. So it almost feels kind
of like a Tron movie or or The Last Starfighter
where a girl gets sucked into a video game and
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becomes one of the characters, or like to Mungi and Um,
clarity ensues. Her friend finds a game and she's got
to convince her friend that she the character in this
old eighties game is her and that she sucked in
the game and they have to fight bad eyes and
she has to find some way to get back out
of the game. Yeah, it's funny because if you watched
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the trailer, it's a combination of so many things. I
said in our notes that's a combination of like wreck It,
Ralph and Toy Story and Jumanji. Um. But it's also
I would think kind of a a uh, kind of
a throwback to movies like Big where a character makes
a wish the wish comes true somehow, and then the
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character realizes that the consequences of that wish were not
what they expected and they have to find some way
to reverse it. So it's like a combination of all
those things. And it is very much, uh tagged into
the nostalgia of a genre of video games from the eighties,
so not a specific title, but more like the general
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way that that smash them up, fight them up, side
scrolling video games worked, you know, stuff like Double Dragon,
that kind of stuff back in the eighties. And yeah,
but it's very much trading heavily on nostalgia. But for me,
like I have interest in seeing it because not because
I think it's going to be phenomenal cinema, but because
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unlike Copra Kai, which I do enjoy, or coming to America,
to which I'm sure I will enjoy, it's something new
built off of the love of something old. So I
guess the question for you, Jonathan, is so much of
our media now is is focusing on these things that
we loved in the past. And I know there's always
the Internet thing going around of there are no new stories,
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just old stories that people are rehashing. You know, I'd
say Stranger Things is a new story even though it
focuses on the eighties or you know things like that.
Do you do you like stuff that banks heavily on
the nostalgia or would you prefer something that's new, that's
set in the future nowadays or something like that. I
don't have any problem with something that that taps into
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nostalgia if it's doing so from a genuine place, and
that the set adding uh is an integral component to
the storytelling to me, Like, that's what makes it work.
And this is not anything new, it's I mean, we
notice it because now we're seeing the media reflect the
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stuff that was popular when Ariel and I were kids, right, Um,
but this happens all the time. Like when I was
a kid, one of the big movies that was really
popular was Greece, which in turn was a nostalgic piece
about being a teenager in the nineteen fifties. Uh. In
the in the uh you know, nineties and early two thousand's,
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you look at things like that seventies show and again
you're looking back at a something that happened twenty to
thirty years previously. So this is a cycle we see
all the time where the media of the day is
reflecting the childhood loves of the people who are watching it.
So you look at how the age of the average
viewer subtract twenty to thirty years, and that's what's that's
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the stuff that you're gonna see in the meeting end.
This happens a lot, and if it is done well,
I like it. And there are certain ones that really
play with the nostalgic criteria and they do it well.
There's a movie called Turbo Kid that is this crazy,
schlocky science fiction action movie, exceedingly violent but in a
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very kind of tongue in cheek cartoonish way. Um. But
it comes across as like you watch and you're like,
I could totally see this having been made in the
nineteen eighties, except the sensibility of it is a little
too advanced for the nineteen eighties and the effects are
actually a little too advanced for the nineteen eighties. But
other than that, it feels like it could have been
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lifted from that era of really weird, over the top
science fiction films, stuff like Big Trouble in Little China
or Buckru Bonsai. Um. And so when it when it
does that, when it feels like it's it's a genuine story.
To me, it's no different than if you were doing
a period piece that was set in like you know,
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medieval Spain or something. You're just you're you've it's it's
this period and the setting of the story you want
to tell. It's when you just are trying to cash
in on that and your story doesn't have much story
to it and you're just relying on that nostalgia to
carry you through, that's when it falls flat for me.
What about you? Um, I feel the same way, you know.
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I I was raised on so much sci fi that
I kind of like looking to the future. But I
don't mind if it's got a hint of the past
in there. Um. You know, for instance, the not new
now but newer Star Trek movies where they went back
to the old James Kirk. You know, were they the
most mind blowing cinema ever? No, But it was new
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stories with old characters. I love that still looked to
the future and that was kind of fun For the
most part. They did just straight up rabbit con in
the second one. But yeah, well, except that they also
made Spok a raving lunatic in the second one he
was angry punching action hero, which is about as non
spot as you get. But you know, I do. I do,
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like you know, some movies that are made just for
the the one quick laugh. Something I don't have to
think about very much is why I like watching bad movies,
you know. So Kung Fury, which actually haven't watched, is
an example of that where I'm like, I would watch this,
it would be funny because I haven't had what nostalgia
they throw in their ruined for me, but it would
probably be like a one time watch. And then there
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are other examples, like Stranger Things is set in the
nineteen eighties and is also clearly a love letter to
some of the most influential filmmakers of the eighties, like
Steven Spielberg's influence on the filmmakers or the series makers
for Stranger Things is incredibly obvious. If you watch that
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show their nods to Alien in season two, there's their
nods to The Thing, John Carpenter's The Thing as well.
So plus all the lovecraft Ian imagery, there's all the
D n D imagery. There's there's a ton of influences,
but again it feels genuine within that story of it.
When the film version it came out, they made a
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decision to shift the timeline of it. Now when it
came out as a novel, it came out in nineteen
eight six, So the six novel of it, the childhood's
were taking place in the in the fifties, not in
the eighties, because you go back thirty years where I
think it's twenty seven years something like that. It's I
forget now how many years the Pennywise goes into hibernation
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then comes back out. But anyway, the childhood was set
at a different time period because the current events were
set in nineteen eight six. When the movie comes out,
they just shift everything up so that the adults are
modern day, childhood is nineteen eighties, um. And again it
was a way to connect to the audience of today
because if you if you said it where modern day
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was the nineteen eighties and the childhood was nineteen fifties,
you would no longer connect with the majority of your audience.
So that was a very calculated decision. And I think
you know, with it and with Stranger Things, more with
Stranger Things than with it when you put in that nostalgia,
like i'llbeit you know, they're both set in the eighties,
which you know is my childhood time. But when you
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when you put in the little things like the alien
or the thing or Bob or whatever. You know, all
these little nods, and they're subtle, and you have to
pick up on them, and you have to work for it,
it's much more rewarding. We have a mash up that
we need to present, but first I think we're going
to chill for a second and take a quick break
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You came up with a mash up to create the
ultimate nostalgic experience, can you explain? Yes, So Jonathan and
I are going, what are we gonna What are we
gonna mash up? You know we can mash up man
while we've already done that, you guys haven't heard it yet.
We'll come out in the future. But you know what,
what can we do that isn't doesn't already exist? Because
the more you rehash old properties, the more they get
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blended together. So we took something that was just truly
nostalgia back to the future. Is because you know, we're
nostalgic about it now. And then we took something that
is nostalgic about back to the future but modern stranger things,
and we said, what would this be like? What this
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even work? I guess we'll find out. So do you
want me to go first? Or do you want to
go first? Um? I guess I will go first because
I'm pretty sure yours is going to be better than
stop saying that every single time you go first. I'm like, oh,
that's such a good idea. All right, I want to
hear yours. I just like your ideas so much. I'm
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just supporting you, Okay, So appreciation society, Yes, upside Down
to the Future, Marty McFly and Doc Brown are added
again after a tweak to their Dolorean where they add
tacking on particles to improve its time jumping capability. They
are off to thirty one years in the future once again.
Here back to the future too. They went thirty years
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in the future to make sure they didn't mess it
up with their time traveling antics. They just can't leave
well enough alone. But the tack on particles in conjunction
with the flex capacitor opened a dimensional rift and they
end up in what looks like a weird jumble between
Indiana and Georgia. As they exit the car, they realize
they are still in the eighties, darker, more bleak version
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of the eighties. What has happened that they must be
in an alternate universe. As they scour the city this
Indiana Georgia, the hybrid City, looking for parts to fix
their Dolorean so they can return to their timeline instead
of their time, they come across a bunch of kids
looking for their friend Will. When they see Doc and Marty,
they stop looking and start to freak out, pointing and screaming,
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running towards Doc and Marty. Seemingly knowing who they are,
Doc and Marty, not wanting to upset the timeline further
run into the woods, and that's when they see it. No,
not not Pennywise, the demi organ and it sees them
as a demogorgon double takes. It starts slowly towards Marty
and Doc. As it gets close to Doc and Marty,
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it's mouth head thingy starts to slowly open, and a
last ditchen of self defense, doct throws a right hook
straight into the ribs of the demogorgon and they hear
a familiar ouch. All of a sudden, the monster's mouth
opens and a beefy blonde head pops out. It's Biff Tannin.
Then they see the cameras all around them. Iff says,
what the heck are you two doing here on set?
He explains that they are in two thousand sixteen on
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a TV set, Their DeLorean isn't broken, and they are
in fact movie stars in the future. Not having ever
expected that they would be famous, they decide, huh, well,
what's a hurry back? And they stick around for a while.
What havoc will this week? We'll find out in the
sequel Back to the present, Twin Pining for Home. Okay,
first of all, my hat is off to you. The
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fact that you reference that Stranger Things is shot in
Georgia but said in Indiana in your meta fiction is perfect.
And once again, Aeriel, somehow we have taken exact opposite
approaches to our pitches without sharing them. So now is
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my chance to share with you. Back to Stranger Things,
it's five and Marty McFly is helping old Doc Brown
with an experiment. Why is Marty friends with Doc Brown?
That in itself is one of life's great mysteries, but
perhaps it's so that Marty can occasionally access Doc Brown's
insanely overpowered amplifiers. Anyway, Marty ends up ducking into a
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time machine made out of a Dolorean to escape some
terrorists who come after Doc Brown for the theft of plutonium.
Marty goes back to the past to nive so pretty
much at this point everything is playing out like the
original Back to the Future film, except this time in
the past, Marty encounters a young, ambitious scientist in his
late twenties named Martin Brenner. Marty and Martin bonding over
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sharing the same name, because we know in movie universes,
that's the closest bond you can have, uh the They
worked together with Doc Brown to solve the time traveling issue,
but all the while we see Brenner viewing the proceedings
with a calculated eye, something that Doc Brown finds concerning
but necessary in order to get Marty back home to
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nineteen eighty five. Eventually, with the help of Doc Brown
and Martin Brenner, Marty is able to return to Night.
Only things have changed. His father is not, as it
turns out. A popular science fiction novelist, but rather an
important scientist, and he doesn't live in California anymore. When
Marty returns to nineteen eighty five and he sees that
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Doc has survived the terrorist attack, he is told by
his old friend that his father and mother left California
for Indiana after his dad accepted a position in a
lab his dad's boss, Martin Brenner, and so Marty and
Doc traveled to Indiana to find out what's going on.
They go to Hawkins, Indiana, a town where weird stuff
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has been happening for a couple of years, and they
learned that George McFly is Brenner's successor, Brenner having been
consumed by the demogorgan two years earlier. George is obsessed
with tracking down a young teenager referred to as eleven,
even as the barriers of reality are breaking down in Hawkins.
They also learned that Marty is named after the deceased Brenner,
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and Marty is horrified to hear that his namesake has
been up to these terrible things. Marty tries to reconcile
what is happening. He is heading back to his little
motel room in Hawkins when he encounters a group of
kids Mike Wheeler, Dustin Henderson, Lucas Sinclair, Will Buyers, and
the aforementioned eleven. They're investigating why rats keep us floating?
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From there, we are pulled into a complicated story about
how scientists using technology adapted from Doc Brown's time travel
devices have opened up a portal to other dimensions that
now threaten the safety of everyone in Hawkins and Beyond.
And Marty is faced with a new challenge to go
back in time again and prevent Martin Brenner from being
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part of his solution without being spotted by his past
self in the process. Oh and it's super hard to
do because now magnets don't work, and that messes with
the time circuits and the DeLorean. So at the end
of the movie, Doc Brown, Marty, and science teacher Scott
Clark played by my friend Randy Havens figure out how
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to send Marty back to nineteen fifty five again, setting
up the inevitable sequel the end. Oh, I love it,
And if that is not the actual next season of
Stranger Things Stranger Things season four, I'm going to be
sorely disappointed. I mean, like it's to me, it's fascinating
that we both went in different directions like you went.
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You went with the parallel universe approach and I went
with a well. Back to the Future too taught us
about alternate futures because of altering the past and UH,
and I thought, well, if we just throw Martin Brenner,
who is, by the way, the bad guy and see
season one of Stranger Things, he's the scientist who's going
after eleven, if we just transport him and he would
have been about twenty nine, I guess, like I did
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some calculations, he would have been in his late twenties.
In UH. Then that makes it all work out for
the storyline of of Stranger Things and Back to the Future.
So that's why I went with it. I really like it,
you know, I feel like this was the exact right
amount of original story and nostalgia for me. But we
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are curious what you guys think, if you have your
own ideas of what a mash up between Back to
the Future and Stranger Things would look like, or if
you have any suggestions for future mashups, or just things
that you would like us to cover. You know, important
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