January 30, 2019 • 34 mins
Dr. Darren Weissman, creator of The LifeLine Technique, explains why it’s vital for us to learn to use our subconscious mind to heal what matters most.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
If we can embrace these as a feedback from this
part of ourselves, it's really mysterious and we can learn
to process the emotions that live in our subconscious mind,
our perception of ourselves, the world around us changes quickly. Welcome,
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do you turns the podcast where we talk about all
things change. I'm Lisa Oz and I'm Jill Krzy. We
are talking today about something that is happening right this second.
Every three to five seconds. I have just learned we
have some sort of subconscious reaction. Subconscious is reacting to something.
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So I'm having one right now, and you know, it
sounds like a hot flash or something. Now it does,
it does, And I'm sounding very knowledgeable, But that's it.
That's all I know about the subconscious. I'm the big dummy.
I'm the simple child who doesn't understand anything about the subconscious.
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And I'm laying myself at at your feet and our guests,
well that this is why we have our guest today,
because he is an expert in all things subconscious. We
are joined today by Dr Darren Wiseman. He is a
chiropractic holistic physician and he's also author of the Power
of Infinite Love. And gratitude. Darren, thanks so much for
being here today. I'm so grateful, thanks for having me.
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So can we break it down for Jill and any
of our listeners that are struggling with the subconscious mind. Yeah,
and the simplistic view of the subconscious mind is also
known as the reactive mind. So the difference between the
conscious mind is it's active, it's moving towards something. We're
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the subconscious reactive mind. Its design is it avoids or
moves away, or it puts up some kind of lens
that is a misperception or a mask to ultimately keep
itself protected in the present moment. But it's got a
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deeper layer of what it is which is really important
when it comes to change, and that is it helps
us to evolve. A lot of people don't recognize that
because we judge the book by the cover and all
we can see is the mask, or all we can
look at is what we want to avoid or move
away from. But there is a hidden code inside the
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subconscious that holds a buried treasure for us to awaken,
a power that we'd otherwise not know. We think of
evolution is something that happens over millennia with species, but
evolution is very specific to every living thing right in
the moment. In the moment, and we're really talking about
evolution in this podcast. It sounds like your subconscious is
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both sort of a friend and an enemy to changed
moving in a direction you consciously want to go in
am I right, There never an enemy? Okay, only if
we view it as that. But why does there when
we because our conscious mind were aware of right, our
conscious mind is our mentation, and our subconscious mind is
kind of controls us behind the scenes, and sometimes when
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we decide we want to do something, our subconscious mind
blocks us, kind of controls us. It's in control. So
as much as we might like to think and feel
and believe that we're in control, the nature of the
subconscious mind is it is always seven times faster than
our greatest ninja trained conscious self. So you can be
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a great meditator and you know, read all kinds of
books and do affirmations and do things for your body,
and you know your emotional state of being. And as
much as we get to that leading edge of peat
performance of who we are, our subconscious mine will always
be seven times faster. Just running circles around that medicating,
plank holding plan making conscious and why I say, like, no,
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it's not the bad guy. It's only viewed the bad
guy if we only know what we know and we're
not aware of its nature, and it's a deeper purpose.
What is it? What's its objective? What is it? What's
it trying to get us to do? What you said?
It's evolution. It isn't awakening to the next greatest version
of ourselves. And it shows up as gifts and strange
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wrapping paper. It shows up as these unique patterns that
go on on every level of our life. We can
see them and feel them when we're around people. That
intuitive gut feeling that says, you know what I'm I'm
not feeling comfortable around this person. That's that spiky sense
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that like that gut uncomfortablelity two whole other nature of
like a are a little dimension of the subconscious where
it influences our biology, It influences our behavior, and so
different unique patterns of symptoms and stress that go on
in our bodies are how our subconscious mind speaks through
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us and to us too awaken this next greatest version
of ourselves. So it's about listening to the subconscious that's
one component for sure, But check it out. It's invisible.
It's invisible, so it shows up like, oh, I get
migraine headaches, or I've got this obsessive compulsive trade or
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this addiction. I've got these rituals and I don't like them,
this certain behavior that you know, you know, it's always
like I wish I could change it, And it shows
up in all these unique ways. And oftentimes because we
live in a world that says, make the pain, make
the here, make the stress go away, make it go away,
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and I understand it. I don't want to be in
pain or I don't want to be stressed out, and
I don't want anyone to struggle or software either. However,
this is how the subconscious mind speaks. The body can
only be the body. Our behavior is our behavior, our relationships,
our relationships. They show up in unique ways that are personal, professional,
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or family, in our lives and where we're struggling, where
we're stuck. That's what I like to call a portal.
And it's a portal so that we can begin to
dance with the invisible partner of our subconscious mind. Because
when we can learn to create a relationship with it.
When we can get to learn how to help it
to work with us and for us, then things start
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to align and manifest differently. All right. So I just
need a little clarity here for a second, because it
sounds like the way that you're describing the sub conscious
mind is the way that I would talk about the
collective unconscious rather than subconscious, because it sounds like what
you're talking about is necessarily a positive force for evolution
in our lives. But with the psychology of the subconscious mind,
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it's not always a positive thing. It is protective of
the ego. So you have urges like most superficial example,
if you want to go on a diet. You know
consciously you want to go on a diet, but the
subconscious mind is protecting whatever that issue is that makes
you need to go on the diet, so you break
the diet because of a subconscious impulse. But the way
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you're describing the subconscious is different from that. It's not
the ego protective urge. It's just going another step because
that part that says, you know, I gotta go to
the cupboard and grab the chocolate. I've got to have that.
It's eleven o'clock. It's right, it's the witching hour. I've
got to have them bullet cereal or whatever it might be,
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that ice cream. That is what we're looking for. That
is what we're looking for, that pattern of behavior. When
we learn how to create a relationship with that behavior,
that thought process, that experience, and there's a step by
step process on how to utilize the subconscious mind as
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a tool for manifesting change rather than what happens and
what you're saying, the mind becomes a tormentor, and for
most people, the mind really is a tormentor. We have
these thoughts, they are incessant. Please I don't want to
feel anxious anymore. Please make this go away. It's making
me sick. It's affecting my health, it's affecting my relationships,
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my marriage, whatever it might be. When we can be
open to viewing that as a conversation as what I
like to call the portal to the next greatest version
of herself, and then we follow unique steps, and there
are specific steps that have to be followed if you
want to gain rapport with this reactive part of ourselves.
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Does it have to be those specific steps or is
it is there a way that we can just start
listening to our inner voice and shift the dialogue. I
have found that awareness alone is not enough. Really, yeah,
awareness alone is not enough to identifying these patterns. Tuning
in and hearing that voice it's helpful, chocolate lady voice. Yeah,
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is not that's not gonna that's not gonna put you
in rapport. It's not going to change it. It's awareness.
And that awareness is one of the steps out of
sixteen that I follow. Okay, alright, a sixte that I follow,
And that's a lot of steps we have. You know what,
we'll do as best as we can. This is wild
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because we want to keep this just down to earth
and basic because on one level it's very simple. Another level,
it's in trick it it's like water H two O,
and then it's like wow, that water turns into a
snowflake and there's no two same snowflakes. So when it's
the same kind of analogy, the subconscious mind is simple.
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It's driven by a pattern of love and gratitude. Infinite
love and gratitude is what I like to say. And
and in that that's the simplicity of it. When you
want to influence your subconscious mind. The basic premise is
be in the pain being, the fear being, the stress
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of that chocolate voice that's calling. And I hold my
hand in this posture and American sign language. In American
Sign language, it means I love you. And the way
if you were and I were going to give you
to their high five, you just bend the middle and
ring finger down, that means I love you in American
Sign language. Right on. So, now the chocolate urge or
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the alcohol urge, or the whatever impulse or ritual or
addiction has now taken over in its driving the vehicle
of my mind. I simply place that over my heart,
right in the center of my chest, and I say
the words infinite love ingratitude, infinite love ingratitude, and I
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say that until it shifts, and it will shift, which
is really amazing. Okay, so practical shoes A million questions
lady here. Yeah, you have to say it out loud. No, okay,
you say it in your mind. Infinite love and gratitude
and just a hand posture and a few words repeated
in my head. Is going to get in the way
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of that's gonna it's going to be a process interrupted
or destructive that'll be a process interrupted that at least
will get you into the present moment where I'm like, whoa,
I'm being driven by something that I don't want to do.
I know I don't want to do it. That will
create a process interrupt, but it will not create the
change either. You know, maybe sometimes it does. I had
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a woman listening to a radio show when I used
to do a radio show. She was on the four
oh five in California, and she was in massive traffic
and she started to have an anxiety attack because she
ate something that she was allergic to and she went
into an allergic reaction and she literally she goes and
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she sent me this measure to Dr Darren. I put
my hand in there. I love you, pasture. I put
it over my heart. I know it sounds crazy. I
literally just went infinite love and gratitude, infinite love and gratitude,
and it shifted. The anxiety shifted, and the allergic reaction shifted.
So there is chuck full of information and why that
would that happen, which I would love to dive into.
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We are going to dive into that as soon as
we get back. Before the break, we were talking with
Dr Darren Wiseman about infinite love and gratitude and the
power that that has in making shifts in our lives.
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And I want to go deeper into that. But what
I was thinking about while you're talking about making the
hand motion of infinite love and gratitude, which is the
American sign language where I love you, is it's a moodra.
And so sorry, what's a moodra? Hi gang? Well, okay,
we're gonna I'm confused. Amodra is primarily a hand posture
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that is practiced in India mostly that it's used for
shifts and energy. How would you describe it? Radiates a
vibration based upon in our body is energy. So five
thousand years ago a book was written called the One
dan Ajing Yellow Emperor's Book of Internal Medicine. And these
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barefoot doctors of Chinese medicine, way back when, before all
this cool technology, we're aware of these vibrational pathways that
run from our fingertips to our head, from our chest
down to our hands back and forth to our feet.
Our vedic medicine, they were aware of the chakras and
these power centers that we have, this energy that is
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within us. And so when you move your hands in
different ways. When you create different tones with your voice,
we influence the vibration of the flow of these energy channels.
They're called acupuncture, meridians or chakras. I like to call
emotional channels and power centers. And these emotional channels, this
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is where we're like where our emotions. Where is anxiety,
where's anger? Where is grief? It runs through particular pathways
in specific detailed places that and acupunctures can put needles into.
I now these days do acupuncture without needles. I do
it through the process that I teach and that I
use in my practice. But it is an acupuncture without needles,
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and it's stimulating the energy pathway through intention through intention. Okay,
so we were talking about the infinite love and gratitude
shifting your subconscious intention. Yeah, and well Jill was bringing
up like why not awareness alone, and awareness is the
first step in being able to manifest an intention that
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can get your subconscious mind on board with creating real
sustainable change. I want to create not just change, not
short term change, but I want to create real evolutionary change.
There's four steps, and the first step is conscious observation,
which is awareness. So when we observe our body as
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something that's speaking to us. Our body is a reflection
of our mind. Everything going on in our body is
going on in our mind. Everything comes from the mind,
not like some Most allah everything going on right now
comes from our mind. Most of our mind is subconscious.
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Does that mean that you subscribe to the sort of
thinking that if you get a diagnosis of a disease,
it's a reflection of something that is off in your subconscious,
in your in your mental health. I would say that
it's on. I don't get that. I would say that
our body is giving us an opportunity to look at
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something and feel something and hear something in a way
that a part of us has not been able to.
And when we're able to activate that part of ourselves,
that subconscious, reactive part of ourselves, when we're able to
connect with it, activate it, we can lead it because
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it's reactive. Like a dog. We trained a dog, the
dog will follow. However, even if you're trying a dog
really well, if it sees the squirrel like I've got
a silver Labrador, it's gonna go after it. We have
these limbic parts of ourselves, these emotionally feeding fighting sexually
driven parts of ourselves that are subconscious. There's no choice
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with them. There's no choice with the subconscious. So a
lot of judgment can go on when saying, oh, I've
got autoimmune disease, diabetes, cancer, it's going on in a child,
and saying like it's coming from the subconscious. Did somebody
do something wrong? No, no way. Nobody chooses any dis ease.
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No one chooses to struggle. We weren't born to suffer.
So going back, because this is really important here, the
first step is to observe the body. Most people don't
observe their body as a feedback. Most people go, oh,
you know, I've got these aches and pains, I'm overweight, this,
I'm I'm so fatigued. You know. We don't look at
it as a conversation. We look at it as a victimization.
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And that's the beginning of it. And not only do
we consciously observe our body, but we observe our relationships.
Because what's going on in our body and how our cells, organs, glands,
and systems communicate is also the same vibration and energy
and how I relate and communicate and attract and repel
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different people and circumstances in my life. So I observe
where am I struggling, Well, I'm struggling at home, where
as a husband, or you know, in my business, and
just managing all these things going on. And I feel frustrated,
and I feel anxious eight out of ten, and I
feel overwhelmed and and sad. We observe these things and
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at that point, and I love it that you said this, Jill.
We often just we judge the heck out of ourselves.
But there's a question that we ask in the lifeline
that's called the discerning truth question, so that we can
shift all judgment to discernment. And the truth question is this,
and I'll run it value both. If you are given
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the opportunity in your life, in your body, to create
your body, to create your life, to create relationships, to
create your health, would you ever choose to create it
with autoimmune disease, cancer, aches, pains, and not able to sleep,
hot flashes? You could definitely not check any of the
Would you choose to have anxiety overwhelmed? The answer is
hell no. The answer is hell no. And so now
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it's education time. When we're aware, we're conscious, When we're
conscious we can choose only when we're conscious. Can we
choose when we're aware of something that duh, we'd never choose.
That's not the active conscious mind, that's the reactive subconscious mind.
That's the program mind. And now we can begin a
journey of following then two golden rules on how to
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set intention and then not only set the intention, but
use the power of imagination to bring forth through the
subconscious mind a whole unique m vibration energy to influence.
It's almost like unzipping the fabric of consciousness. Sounds weird
and wild, but unzipping the fabric of consciousness and writing
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a new program in the subconscious mind that influences our
body's ability to be what it's designed to be, which
is self healing. Is that like visualization or something um
part of it? Part of it? So you decide what
is that? Step want step two? We're on step We're
about to get to sea. It's it's we're gonna need
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another podcast. Yeah, we won't have the time. Here's the
beauty of it, and it's it's really profound. It's really profound.
But being intentional is so important in life. We know
that everything is intentional on one level or another. But
we're not always so intentional. Oftentimes we are the reactive
version of ourselves. We are in a gift and strange
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wrapping paper. It sucks, but nonetheless, nonetheless that's conversation. That's
the portal. It's a big learning curve to go. Everything
is a portal from a negative thought to the extreme
horrific situations that happen in life, and they do. If
we can embrace these as a feedback from this part
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of ourselves, it's really mysterious and we can learn to
process the emotions that live in our subconscious mind. Our
perception of ourselves, the world around us changes quickly, quickly,
not twenty years of therapy, quickly in ways that influence
biology and behavior. What's our end game? What's our objective overall?
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Like doing this work, what are we hoping to achieve?
Live a life of meaning and fulfillment? And where we
are in our power? We're living a life that we
love to live. I'm recognizing that there's certain things that
I don't have a choice with, but I'm finding that
I do have a choice when I learned how to
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get my subconscious mind on board. And so what is
that endgame? That endgame is about being present in the
moment and in loving your life and being a light
in the world so that we cannot only influence our
own self, our own health and well being, but we
can be a light for others. That then empower people
to know that wherever they're at, they can shift and
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move through real challenging circumstances, which we're all going through,
all right. So Lisa told me the story of an
encounter that she had with you after you guys, I
guess had first met and you did an interview, and
it definitely left me kind of mystified but intrigued. So Lisa,
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why don't you tell this one? I will tell it
as soon as we're that before the break, had mentioned
an experience I had with Dr Weisman the last time
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we were together, and I will unpack it just very briefly.
A lot of what Darren does is body work because
our subconscious mind and you will articulate this better than
I will manifest in the body. Right, So one way
of communicating with the subconscious is through kinesiology. It's through
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asking your body questions and getting some feedback. And I
when I told you about this, you were very skeptical. Yes,
me too, okay, and I was and I had Darren
on my television show and he said, you want to
do like a little example of this right now and
we're rolling and I said sure. And he said, all right,
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what's something you want to deal with? And I said, well,
this is this anxiety that I have that kind of
drives a lot of my behavior patterns. So he went
through a very quick like when in my life the
trauma that originated this anxiety was and he came to
four years old. I don't know if you remember this.
I know you do it with public, thousands of people,
but with me, he came to four years old and
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I said, no, there was no trauma four years old.
He said, your body says there was, and he was
pressing against your arm. You were holding your arm out
stretched and he was testing your muscle resistance exactly, and
brought up this four year old thing that had happened.
And I said, when you were four years old, when
I was four, there was no specific thing. He mentioned.
You said, your body says it's four and I said no, no,
thank you very much, hahaha. Goodbye. It was lovely having
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you as a guest. Bye. And literally within a minute
of him walking off the stage, I had this flood
of acknowledgement that I had had an experience at four
of having my mother have to leave us for about
a month. Me. I was four, my sister was three,
and my other sister was one, and clearly I had
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no memory of it, and we'd never talked about it
as a family, only briefly, like, oh, your grandfather died
when you were four, that was all. And I called
up my mom and I said, Mom, when papa died?
What happened? She said? I went back to visit my
mom and I said how long were you there? I
said a month? I said, oh, my gosh, And you
were absolutely right. I don't know if I ever told you.
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You never did. Actually, it was really a funny moment.
I'm like, all right, my moved. That was the one
time I missed that. So let me ask you something, though,
Do you think it's possible that you were just really suggestible? No,
because it was confirmed, it was real, and the memory
that you had, I had no memory of it. And
it's really not even about that though it isn't. Here's
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the cool part that four year young part of you
has been committed throughout your entire life to wake you up,
and it used anxiety to wake you up to what.
And I don't remember your intention, but whatever your I
am intention was was what it's all about. So in
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the face of anxiety, what is Lisa desire to feel?
Whatever your heart said in that moment? This what I'm
talking about in guiding people within the subconscious mind. The
biggest component of it, the most important part of it,
is to be intentional. The intention is what we're manifesting.
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That's the change that's occurring. What gets us to it
is this part of ourselves that's buried in memory and
stuck in groundhog day. How can Lisa's recognition that there
was this trauma unbeknownst to her that she's been carrying
and it's sort of manifest in actually in a way
that you can physically sense. How can she use that
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two deal with the anxiety? How is that a portal
for her? Well, the portal is the I am whatever
her intention was. So that's what it was. And so
like after a session, and and he literally with Lisa,
we spent three to five minutes. So that's not a session.
That's not a session. I spent an hour going into
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the many layers of the subconscious mind and use in kinesiology,
muscle reflex testing. I'm able to know when the nervous
system is being activated by a subconscious mind limiting belief.
That is what might have been. I mean, since you
didn't do a full session with her, you can't always say,
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but hypothetically, what could have been the limiting belief that
came out of that experienced traumatic experience of abandonment. Yeah,
do you remember the color of the glasses we were wearing.
I don't remember at all. Was I wearing glasses? Yeah?
I had, so you did put glasses? I just know
I don't, right, So I don't remember. So I think yellow, Okay, cool?
And if it's yellow, then it's the third chakra. And
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the third chakra is all about power and we're just
power come from inside or outside, inside, inside, all the time.
So that's what is awakening when we're doing a lifeline session.
When we're doing this process, it is about awakening for
this particular one, the power of self esteem, self worth.
It I matter that I'm enough based upon the acupunction
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meridians that are involved with it, fire, earth, metal, water,
would whatever which ones they are, there's unique aspects of
nature that then contribute to the deeper meaning and expression
of what's awakening from within us. You know, it's wild, Jell.
I love this conversation with you being really new to
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it because in all reality, no one truly can understand
what this is without experiencing it. It's impossible. Really. Yeah,
I mean, I'm definitely struggling here. I have to tell
you although I don't know. I mean, Lisa does not
does not have experiences like that very often. I have
not known her to. I mean, usually you seem like
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you're sort of fully in command of what you think,
and I can I can completely here and see you
saying nope, I have nothing and when I was by
Dr Wison. Yeah, but I do want to, just briefly
before we lose you touch on the two other pillars,
number three and four, because I know our listeners are
very eager to hear about the two more steps that
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we didn't get to. So once we acknowledge hell, no,
I wouldn't choose these symptoms, these stressors, then we want
to connect with our hearts because the heart is the
one thing that can hack the subconscious mind. The subconscious
mind hijacks the heart always every three to five seconds,
and then our heart starts to beat in this reactive
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type of fear based anxious way that sends signals to
our brain, and our brain produces these chemicals of emotion.
They're called neural peptides, these molecules of course, or our
blood stream, and literally the subconscious mind becomes biological. So
the one thing that can hack the subconscious mind is
the heart. So we put our hand with love of
our heart, and we're doing it and we listen. We listen,
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We listen to heart because there's wisdom in our heart. Now.
Sometimes it's really hard because sometimes there's a lot of sadness.
Sometimes heart has been broken, it's been betrayed. Sometimes we've
got so much and we're just overwhelmed and just anxiety
has just driven me. But you know what, we're here.
So we go deeper and we own it because we're
the common denominator of our life and if we desire change,
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we must take responsibility for where we are. And we
go into our heart and all of a sudden, as
I just sit with it and I find that still point,
it's the sweet spot, and the heart says, what do
I desire in the face of this when I'm just
being me, not expectations of others or assumptions of others.
But I'm being me. My heart desires to feel confident.
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It just comes through, right. And so now I know
that this entire process we're gonna do is about being confident.
And now the second golden rule is to make our
intention not only where we're going our heart's desire, but
as if we're already there, because the subconscious mind is
gonna follow, might as well lead it to the summit,
the highest point. So if I was already there, I
could say the two most important words in front of anything,
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and that is I am. And I could say I
am confident. I am confident, and I am confident. And
now I'm beginning a process of leading the subconscious mind.
Now I'm not confident based upon what the heart desires.
Oh yeah, and with the same person over and over again.
But he's just the words I am. Forget about the
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third word there that is a name of God, right, bingo. Now,
But here's the fun part, because now we're got to
get the fourth step right. We gotta get this in here.
The great thing is, I'm like I'm not confident. In
the subconscious mind pops in and it goes, you are
not confident. You're eating that chocolate at eleven o'clock at night.
You are totally anxious. You're doubting yourself. You're totally indecisive.
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All right, So now we asked the question, and we
ask it out loud because we've got to commit ourselves
to it. Am I open ready and willing to use
my imagination, am I? Because the imagination is the one
thing that can take us two places that we haven't
been yet. And through our imagination, we open up seeing myself,
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feeling myself, hearing myself, putting the expression on my face
of confident. How does it feel in my body? Oh
it feels amazing. I feel amazing. And that amazing feeling
you know what that is? You know what? It's medicine.
Our selves are producing a chemical reaction that give us
that amazing feeling. Every every cell produces these chemical reactions.
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Medicine is made of chemicals. Right. This is mind medicine. Right.
All the all these beautiful things, all these beautiful things,
but this is the mind medicine. This is learning how
to use your mind as the tool versus a tormentor.
And it's a sign that the confidence already inside of us.
Otherwise we wouldn't be able to feel it. And now
once we have the I am confident, feeling amazing. Now
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we began using that really strange muscle testing, it's amazing.
We use reflexes to know what's triggering, and I go
after the triggers. I purposely look to trigger the subconscious
mind until I can't be triggered anymore. And I know
that through muscle testing. And when I can't be triggered
by a reactive pattern, when I've extinct a reactive pattern,
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I've changed. I've changed on the deepest levels. I think
this is the first time on this podcast that someone
has really focused on imagination, the power of imagination in
the process of change, and that resonates really strongly with me. Yeah,
it's the fourth step and being intentional. It started with
awareness and then it goes to discernment versus judgment, because
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based upon what I'm aware of, I hate that stuff, right,
and then once I go it's not me. I put
it in a pot and its fertilizer. Right, this is
my growth factor, and in that I plant the seed
of my heart's desire. And I say this as I
am that seed of the acorn is the full grown
oh tree. It's amazing. And then I imagine it and
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there it comes. But then there's a whole other dance
then using kinesiology muscle reflex testing that enable us to
go into different levels quantum levels, subtle levels, acute levels,
chronic levels of patterns that are amazing. Darren, thank you
so much for helping us all change in the best
possible way. Now, what an honor of what a privilege.
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Thank you. They are amazing. You can connect with Dr
Darren Weissman at the Lifeline Center dot com and connect
with us here at E Turns Podcast
If we can embrace these as a feedback from this
part of ourselves, it's really mysterious and we can learn
to process the emotions that live in our subconscious mind,
our perception of ourselves, the world around us changes quickly. Welcome,
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do you turns the podcast where we talk about all
things change. I'm Lisa Oz and I'm Jill Krzy. We
are talking today about something that is happening right this second.
Every three to five seconds. I have just learned we
have some sort of subconscious reaction. Subconscious is reacting to something.
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So I'm having one right now, and you know, it
sounds like a hot flash or something. Now it does,
it does, And I'm sounding very knowledgeable, But that's it.
That's all I know about the subconscious. I'm the big dummy.
I'm the simple child who doesn't understand anything about the subconscious.
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And I'm laying myself at at your feet and our guests,
well that this is why we have our guest today,
because he is an expert in all things subconscious. We
are joined today by Dr Darren Wiseman. He is a
chiropractic holistic physician and he's also author of the Power
of Infinite Love. And gratitude. Darren, thanks so much for
being here today. I'm so grateful, thanks for having me.
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So can we break it down for Jill and any
of our listeners that are struggling with the subconscious mind. Yeah,
and the simplistic view of the subconscious mind is also
known as the reactive mind. So the difference between the
conscious mind is it's active, it's moving towards something. We're
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the subconscious reactive mind. Its design is it avoids or
moves away, or it puts up some kind of lens
that is a misperception or a mask to ultimately keep
itself protected in the present moment. But it's got a
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deeper layer of what it is which is really important
when it comes to change, and that is it helps
us to evolve. A lot of people don't recognize that
because we judge the book by the cover and all
we can see is the mask, or all we can
look at is what we want to avoid or move
away from. But there is a hidden code inside the
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subconscious that holds a buried treasure for us to awaken,
a power that we'd otherwise not know. We think of
evolution is something that happens over millennia with species, but
evolution is very specific to every living thing right in
the moment. In the moment, and we're really talking about
evolution in this podcast. It sounds like your subconscious is
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both sort of a friend and an enemy to changed
moving in a direction you consciously want to go in
am I right, There never an enemy? Okay, only if
we view it as that. But why does there when
we because our conscious mind were aware of right, our
conscious mind is our mentation, and our subconscious mind is
kind of controls us behind the scenes, and sometimes when
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we decide we want to do something, our subconscious mind
blocks us, kind of controls us. It's in control. So
as much as we might like to think and feel
and believe that we're in control, the nature of the
subconscious mind is it is always seven times faster than
our greatest ninja trained conscious self. So you can be
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a great meditator and you know, read all kinds of
books and do affirmations and do things for your body,
and you know your emotional state of being. And as
much as we get to that leading edge of peat
performance of who we are, our subconscious mine will always
be seven times faster. Just running circles around that medicating,
plank holding plan making conscious and why I say, like, no,
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it's not the bad guy. It's only viewed the bad
guy if we only know what we know and we're
not aware of its nature, and it's a deeper purpose.
What is it? What's its objective? What is it? What's
it trying to get us to do? What you said?
It's evolution. It isn't awakening to the next greatest version
of ourselves. And it shows up as gifts and strange
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wrapping paper. It shows up as these unique patterns that
go on on every level of our life. We can
see them and feel them when we're around people. That
intuitive gut feeling that says, you know what I'm I'm
not feeling comfortable around this person. That's that spiky sense
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that like that gut uncomfortablelity two whole other nature of
like a are a little dimension of the subconscious where
it influences our biology, It influences our behavior, and so
different unique patterns of symptoms and stress that go on
in our bodies are how our subconscious mind speaks through
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us and to us too awaken this next greatest version
of ourselves. So it's about listening to the subconscious that's
one component for sure, But check it out. It's invisible.
It's invisible, so it shows up like, oh, I get
migraine headaches, or I've got this obsessive compulsive trade or
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this addiction. I've got these rituals and I don't like them,
this certain behavior that you know, you know, it's always
like I wish I could change it, And it shows
up in all these unique ways. And oftentimes because we
live in a world that says, make the pain, make
the here, make the stress go away, make it go away,
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and I understand it. I don't want to be in
pain or I don't want to be stressed out, and
I don't want anyone to struggle or software either. However,
this is how the subconscious mind speaks. The body can
only be the body. Our behavior is our behavior, our relationships,
our relationships. They show up in unique ways that are personal, professional,
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or family, in our lives and where we're struggling, where
we're stuck. That's what I like to call a portal.
And it's a portal so that we can begin to
dance with the invisible partner of our subconscious mind. Because
when we can learn to create a relationship with it.
When we can get to learn how to help it
to work with us and for us, then things start
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to align and manifest differently. All right. So I just
need a little clarity here for a second, because it
sounds like the way that you're describing the sub conscious
mind is the way that I would talk about the
collective unconscious rather than subconscious, because it sounds like what
you're talking about is necessarily a positive force for evolution
in our lives. But with the psychology of the subconscious mind,
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it's not always a positive thing. It is protective of
the ego. So you have urges like most superficial example,
if you want to go on a diet. You know
consciously you want to go on a diet, but the
subconscious mind is protecting whatever that issue is that makes
you need to go on the diet, so you break
the diet because of a subconscious impulse. But the way
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you're describing the subconscious is different from that. It's not
the ego protective urge. It's just going another step because
that part that says, you know, I gotta go to
the cupboard and grab the chocolate. I've got to have that.
It's eleven o'clock. It's right, it's the witching hour. I've
got to have them bullet cereal or whatever it might be,
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that ice cream. That is what we're looking for. That
is what we're looking for, that pattern of behavior. When
we learn how to create a relationship with that behavior,
that thought process, that experience, and there's a step by
step process on how to utilize the subconscious mind as
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a tool for manifesting change rather than what happens and
what you're saying, the mind becomes a tormentor, and for
most people, the mind really is a tormentor. We have
these thoughts, they are incessant. Please I don't want to
feel anxious anymore. Please make this go away. It's making
me sick. It's affecting my health, it's affecting my relationships,
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my marriage, whatever it might be. When we can be
open to viewing that as a conversation as what I
like to call the portal to the next greatest version
of herself, and then we follow unique steps, and there
are specific steps that have to be followed if you
want to gain rapport with this reactive part of ourselves.
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Does it have to be those specific steps or is
it is there a way that we can just start
listening to our inner voice and shift the dialogue. I
have found that awareness alone is not enough. Really, yeah,
awareness alone is not enough to identifying these patterns. Tuning
in and hearing that voice it's helpful, chocolate lady voice. Yeah,
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is not that's not gonna that's not gonna put you
in rapport. It's not going to change it. It's awareness.
And that awareness is one of the steps out of
sixteen that I follow. Okay, alright, a sixte that I follow,
And that's a lot of steps we have. You know what,
we'll do as best as we can. This is wild
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because we want to keep this just down to earth
and basic because on one level it's very simple. Another level,
it's in trick it it's like water H two O,
and then it's like wow, that water turns into a
snowflake and there's no two same snowflakes. So when it's
the same kind of analogy, the subconscious mind is simple.
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It's driven by a pattern of love and gratitude. Infinite
love and gratitude is what I like to say. And
and in that that's the simplicity of it. When you
want to influence your subconscious mind. The basic premise is
be in the pain being, the fear being, the stress
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of that chocolate voice that's calling. And I hold my
hand in this posture and American sign language. In American
Sign language, it means I love you. And the way
if you were and I were going to give you
to their high five, you just bend the middle and
ring finger down, that means I love you in American
Sign language. Right on. So, now the chocolate urge or
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the alcohol urge, or the whatever impulse or ritual or
addiction has now taken over in its driving the vehicle
of my mind. I simply place that over my heart,
right in the center of my chest, and I say
the words infinite love ingratitude, infinite love ingratitude, and I
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say that until it shifts, and it will shift, which
is really amazing. Okay, so practical shoes A million questions
lady here. Yeah, you have to say it out loud. No, okay,
you say it in your mind. Infinite love and gratitude
and just a hand posture and a few words repeated
in my head. Is going to get in the way
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of that's gonna it's going to be a process interrupted
or destructive that'll be a process interrupted that at least
will get you into the present moment where I'm like, whoa,
I'm being driven by something that I don't want to do.
I know I don't want to do it. That will
create a process interrupt, but it will not create the
change either. You know, maybe sometimes it does. I had
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a woman listening to a radio show when I used
to do a radio show. She was on the four
oh five in California, and she was in massive traffic
and she started to have an anxiety attack because she
ate something that she was allergic to and she went
into an allergic reaction and she literally she goes and
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she sent me this measure to Dr Darren. I put
my hand in there. I love you, pasture. I put
it over my heart. I know it sounds crazy. I
literally just went infinite love and gratitude, infinite love and gratitude,
and it shifted. The anxiety shifted, and the allergic reaction shifted.
So there is chuck full of information and why that
would that happen, which I would love to dive into.
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We are going to dive into that as soon as
we get back. Before the break, we were talking with
Dr Darren Wiseman about infinite love and gratitude and the
power that that has in making shifts in our lives.
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And I want to go deeper into that. But what
I was thinking about while you're talking about making the
hand motion of infinite love and gratitude, which is the
American sign language where I love you, is it's a moodra.
And so sorry, what's a moodra? Hi gang? Well, okay,
we're gonna I'm confused. Amodra is primarily a hand posture
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that is practiced in India mostly that it's used for
shifts and energy. How would you describe it? Radiates a
vibration based upon in our body is energy. So five
thousand years ago a book was written called the One
dan Ajing Yellow Emperor's Book of Internal Medicine. And these
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barefoot doctors of Chinese medicine, way back when, before all
this cool technology, we're aware of these vibrational pathways that
run from our fingertips to our head, from our chest
down to our hands back and forth to our feet.
Our vedic medicine, they were aware of the chakras and
these power centers that we have, this energy that is
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within us. And so when you move your hands in
different ways. When you create different tones with your voice,
we influence the vibration of the flow of these energy channels.
They're called acupuncture, meridians or chakras. I like to call
emotional channels and power centers. And these emotional channels, this
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is where we're like where our emotions. Where is anxiety,
where's anger? Where is grief? It runs through particular pathways
in specific detailed places that and acupunctures can put needles into.
I now these days do acupuncture without needles. I do
it through the process that I teach and that I
use in my practice. But it is an acupuncture without needles,
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and it's stimulating the energy pathway through intention through intention. Okay,
so we were talking about the infinite love and gratitude
shifting your subconscious intention. Yeah, and well Jill was bringing
up like why not awareness alone, and awareness is the
first step in being able to manifest an intention that
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can get your subconscious mind on board with creating real
sustainable change. I want to create not just change, not
short term change, but I want to create real evolutionary change.
There's four steps, and the first step is conscious observation,
which is awareness. So when we observe our body as
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something that's speaking to us. Our body is a reflection
of our mind. Everything going on in our body is
going on in our mind. Everything comes from the mind,
not like some Most allah everything going on right now
comes from our mind. Most of our mind is subconscious.
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Does that mean that you subscribe to the sort of
thinking that if you get a diagnosis of a disease,
it's a reflection of something that is off in your subconscious,
in your in your mental health. I would say that
it's on. I don't get that. I would say that
our body is giving us an opportunity to look at
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something and feel something and hear something in a way
that a part of us has not been able to.
And when we're able to activate that part of ourselves,
that subconscious, reactive part of ourselves, when we're able to
connect with it, activate it, we can lead it because
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it's reactive. Like a dog. We trained a dog, the
dog will follow. However, even if you're trying a dog
really well, if it sees the squirrel like I've got
a silver Labrador, it's gonna go after it. We have
these limbic parts of ourselves, these emotionally feeding fighting sexually
driven parts of ourselves that are subconscious. There's no choice
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with them. There's no choice with the subconscious. So a
lot of judgment can go on when saying, oh, I've
got autoimmune disease, diabetes, cancer, it's going on in a child,
and saying like it's coming from the subconscious. Did somebody
do something wrong? No, no way. Nobody chooses any dis ease.
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No one chooses to struggle. We weren't born to suffer.
So going back, because this is really important here, the
first step is to observe the body. Most people don't
observe their body as a feedback. Most people go, oh,
you know, I've got these aches and pains, I'm overweight, this,
I'm I'm so fatigued. You know. We don't look at
it as a conversation. We look at it as a victimization.
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And that's the beginning of it. And not only do
we consciously observe our body, but we observe our relationships.
Because what's going on in our body and how our cells, organs, glands,
and systems communicate is also the same vibration and energy
and how I relate and communicate and attract and repel
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different people and circumstances in my life. So I observe
where am I struggling, Well, I'm struggling at home, where
as a husband, or you know, in my business, and
just managing all these things going on. And I feel frustrated,
and I feel anxious eight out of ten, and I
feel overwhelmed and and sad. We observe these things and
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at that point, and I love it that you said this, Jill.
We often just we judge the heck out of ourselves.
But there's a question that we ask in the lifeline
that's called the discerning truth question, so that we can
shift all judgment to discernment. And the truth question is this,
and I'll run it value both. If you are given
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the opportunity in your life, in your body, to create
your body, to create your life, to create relationships, to
create your health, would you ever choose to create it
with autoimmune disease, cancer, aches, pains, and not able to sleep,
hot flashes? You could definitely not check any of the
Would you choose to have anxiety overwhelmed? The answer is
hell no. The answer is hell no. And so now
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it's education time. When we're aware, we're conscious, When we're
conscious we can choose only when we're conscious. Can we
choose when we're aware of something that duh, we'd never choose.
That's not the active conscious mind, that's the reactive subconscious mind.
That's the program mind. And now we can begin a
journey of following then two golden rules on how to
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set intention and then not only set the intention, but
use the power of imagination to bring forth through the
subconscious mind a whole unique m vibration energy to influence.
It's almost like unzipping the fabric of consciousness. Sounds weird
and wild, but unzipping the fabric of consciousness and writing
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a new program in the subconscious mind that influences our
body's ability to be what it's designed to be, which
is self healing. Is that like visualization or something um
part of it? Part of it? So you decide what
is that? Step want step two? We're on step We're
about to get to sea. It's it's we're gonna need
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another podcast. Yeah, we won't have the time. Here's the
beauty of it, and it's it's really profound. It's really profound.
But being intentional is so important in life. We know
that everything is intentional on one level or another. But
we're not always so intentional. Oftentimes we are the reactive
version of ourselves. We are in a gift and strange
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wrapping paper. It sucks, but nonetheless, nonetheless that's conversation. That's
the portal. It's a big learning curve to go. Everything
is a portal from a negative thought to the extreme
horrific situations that happen in life, and they do. If
we can embrace these as a feedback from this part
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of ourselves, it's really mysterious and we can learn to
process the emotions that live in our subconscious mind. Our
perception of ourselves, the world around us changes quickly, quickly,
not twenty years of therapy, quickly in ways that influence
biology and behavior. What's our end game? What's our objective overall?
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Like doing this work, what are we hoping to achieve?
Live a life of meaning and fulfillment? And where we
are in our power? We're living a life that we
love to live. I'm recognizing that there's certain things that
I don't have a choice with, but I'm finding that
I do have a choice when I learned how to
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get my subconscious mind on board. And so what is
that endgame? That endgame is about being present in the
moment and in loving your life and being a light
in the world so that we cannot only influence our
own self, our own health and well being, but we
can be a light for others. That then empower people
to know that wherever they're at, they can shift and
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move through real challenging circumstances, which we're all going through,
all right. So Lisa told me the story of an
encounter that she had with you after you guys, I
guess had first met and you did an interview, and
it definitely left me kind of mystified but intrigued. So Lisa,
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why don't you tell this one? I will tell it
as soon as we're that before the break, had mentioned
an experience I had with Dr Weisman the last time
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we were together, and I will unpack it just very briefly.
A lot of what Darren does is body work because
our subconscious mind and you will articulate this better than
I will manifest in the body. Right, So one way
of communicating with the subconscious is through kinesiology. It's through
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asking your body questions and getting some feedback. And I
when I told you about this, you were very skeptical. Yes,
me too, okay, and I was and I had Darren
on my television show and he said, you want to
do like a little example of this right now and
we're rolling and I said sure. And he said, all right,
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what's something you want to deal with? And I said, well,
this is this anxiety that I have that kind of
drives a lot of my behavior patterns. So he went
through a very quick like when in my life the
trauma that originated this anxiety was and he came to
four years old. I don't know if you remember this.
I know you do it with public, thousands of people,
but with me, he came to four years old and
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I said, no, there was no trauma four years old.
He said, your body says there was, and he was
pressing against your arm. You were holding your arm out
stretched and he was testing your muscle resistance exactly, and
brought up this four year old thing that had happened.
And I said, when you were four years old, when
I was four, there was no specific thing. He mentioned.
You said, your body says it's four and I said no, no,
thank you very much, hahaha. Goodbye. It was lovely having
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you as a guest. Bye. And literally within a minute
of him walking off the stage, I had this flood
of acknowledgement that I had had an experience at four
of having my mother have to leave us for about
a month. Me. I was four, my sister was three,
and my other sister was one, and clearly I had
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no memory of it, and we'd never talked about it
as a family, only briefly, like, oh, your grandfather died
when you were four, that was all. And I called
up my mom and I said, Mom, when papa died?
What happened? She said? I went back to visit my
mom and I said how long were you there? I
said a month? I said, oh, my gosh, And you
were absolutely right. I don't know if I ever told you.
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You never did. Actually, it was really a funny moment.
I'm like, all right, my moved. That was the one
time I missed that. So let me ask you something, though,
Do you think it's possible that you were just really suggestible? No,
because it was confirmed, it was real, and the memory
that you had, I had no memory of it. And
it's really not even about that though it isn't. Here's
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the cool part that four year young part of you
has been committed throughout your entire life to wake you up,
and it used anxiety to wake you up to what.
And I don't remember your intention, but whatever your I
am intention was was what it's all about. So in
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the face of anxiety, what is Lisa desire to feel?
Whatever your heart said in that moment? This what I'm
talking about in guiding people within the subconscious mind. The
biggest component of it, the most important part of it,
is to be intentional. The intention is what we're manifesting.
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That's the change that's occurring. What gets us to it
is this part of ourselves that's buried in memory and
stuck in groundhog day. How can Lisa's recognition that there
was this trauma unbeknownst to her that she's been carrying
and it's sort of manifest in actually in a way
that you can physically sense. How can she use that
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two deal with the anxiety? How is that a portal
for her? Well, the portal is the I am whatever
her intention was. So that's what it was. And so
like after a session, and and he literally with Lisa,
we spent three to five minutes. So that's not a session.
That's not a session. I spent an hour going into
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the many layers of the subconscious mind and use in kinesiology,
muscle reflex testing. I'm able to know when the nervous
system is being activated by a subconscious mind limiting belief.
That is what might have been. I mean, since you
didn't do a full session with her, you can't always say,
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but hypothetically, what could have been the limiting belief that
came out of that experienced traumatic experience of abandonment. Yeah,
do you remember the color of the glasses we were wearing.
I don't remember at all. Was I wearing glasses? Yeah?
I had, so you did put glasses? I just know
I don't, right, So I don't remember. So I think yellow, Okay, cool?
And if it's yellow, then it's the third chakra. And
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the third chakra is all about power and we're just
power come from inside or outside, inside, inside, all the time.
So that's what is awakening when we're doing a lifeline session.
When we're doing this process, it is about awakening for
this particular one, the power of self esteem, self worth.
It I matter that I'm enough based upon the acupunction
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meridians that are involved with it, fire, earth, metal, water,
would whatever which ones they are, there's unique aspects of
nature that then contribute to the deeper meaning and expression
of what's awakening from within us. You know, it's wild, Jell.
I love this conversation with you being really new to
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it because in all reality, no one truly can understand
what this is without experiencing it. It's impossible. Really. Yeah,
I mean, I'm definitely struggling here. I have to tell
you although I don't know. I mean, Lisa does not
does not have experiences like that very often. I have
not known her to. I mean, usually you seem like
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you're sort of fully in command of what you think,
and I can I can completely here and see you
saying nope, I have nothing and when I was by
Dr Wison. Yeah, but I do want to, just briefly
before we lose you touch on the two other pillars,
number three and four, because I know our listeners are
very eager to hear about the two more steps that
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we didn't get to. So once we acknowledge hell, no,
I wouldn't choose these symptoms, these stressors, then we want
to connect with our hearts because the heart is the
one thing that can hack the subconscious mind. The subconscious
mind hijacks the heart always every three to five seconds,
and then our heart starts to beat in this reactive
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type of fear based anxious way that sends signals to
our brain, and our brain produces these chemicals of emotion.
They're called neural peptides, these molecules of course, or our
blood stream, and literally the subconscious mind becomes biological. So
the one thing that can hack the subconscious mind is
the heart. So we put our hand with love of
our heart, and we're doing it and we listen. We listen,
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We listen to heart because there's wisdom in our heart. Now.
Sometimes it's really hard because sometimes there's a lot of sadness.
Sometimes heart has been broken, it's been betrayed. Sometimes we've
got so much and we're just overwhelmed and just anxiety
has just driven me. But you know what, we're here.
So we go deeper and we own it because we're
the common denominator of our life and if we desire change,
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we must take responsibility for where we are. And we
go into our heart and all of a sudden, as
I just sit with it and I find that still point,
it's the sweet spot, and the heart says, what do
I desire in the face of this when I'm just
being me, not expectations of others or assumptions of others.
But I'm being me. My heart desires to feel confident.
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It just comes through, right. And so now I know
that this entire process we're gonna do is about being confident.
And now the second golden rule is to make our
intention not only where we're going our heart's desire, but
as if we're already there, because the subconscious mind is
gonna follow, might as well lead it to the summit,
the highest point. So if I was already there, I
could say the two most important words in front of anything,
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and that is I am. And I could say I
am confident. I am confident, and I am confident. And
now I'm beginning a process of leading the subconscious mind.
Now I'm not confident based upon what the heart desires.
Oh yeah, and with the same person over and over again.
But he's just the words I am. Forget about the
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third word there that is a name of God, right, bingo. Now,
But here's the fun part, because now we're got to
get the fourth step right. We gotta get this in here.
The great thing is, I'm like I'm not confident. In
the subconscious mind pops in and it goes, you are
not confident. You're eating that chocolate at eleven o'clock at night.
You are totally anxious. You're doubting yourself. You're totally indecisive.
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All right, So now we asked the question, and we
ask it out loud because we've got to commit ourselves
to it. Am I open ready and willing to use
my imagination, am I? Because the imagination is the one
thing that can take us two places that we haven't
been yet. And through our imagination, we open up seeing myself,
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feeling myself, hearing myself, putting the expression on my face
of confident. How does it feel in my body? Oh
it feels amazing. I feel amazing. And that amazing feeling
you know what that is? You know what? It's medicine.
Our selves are producing a chemical reaction that give us
that amazing feeling. Every every cell produces these chemical reactions.
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Medicine is made of chemicals. Right. This is mind medicine. Right.
All the all these beautiful things, all these beautiful things,
but this is the mind medicine. This is learning how
to use your mind as the tool versus a tormentor.
And it's a sign that the confidence already inside of us.
Otherwise we wouldn't be able to feel it. And now
once we have the I am confident, feeling amazing. Now
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we began using that really strange muscle testing, it's amazing.
We use reflexes to know what's triggering, and I go
after the triggers. I purposely look to trigger the subconscious
mind until I can't be triggered anymore. And I know
that through muscle testing. And when I can't be triggered
by a reactive pattern, when I've extinct a reactive pattern,
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I've changed. I've changed on the deepest levels. I think
this is the first time on this podcast that someone
has really focused on imagination, the power of imagination in
the process of change, and that resonates really strongly with me. Yeah,
it's the fourth step and being intentional. It started with
awareness and then it goes to discernment versus judgment, because
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based upon what I'm aware of, I hate that stuff, right,
and then once I go it's not me. I put
it in a pot and its fertilizer. Right, this is
my growth factor, and in that I plant the seed
of my heart's desire. And I say this as I
am that seed of the acorn is the full grown
oh tree. It's amazing. And then I imagine it and
(33:53):
there it comes. But then there's a whole other dance
then using kinesiology muscle reflex testing that enable us to
go into different levels quantum levels, subtle levels, acute levels,
chronic levels of patterns that are amazing. Darren, thank you
so much for helping us all change in the best
possible way. Now, what an honor of what a privilege.
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Thank you. They are amazing. You can connect with Dr
Darren Weissman at the Lifeline Center dot com and connect
with us here at E Turns Podcast
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