August 13, 2021 • 30 mins
Lembas is the one bread to rule them all in J.R.R. Tolkien's world of 'The Lord of the Rings.' In this classic episode, Anney and Lauren delve into the real-world inspirations and Elvish science behind lembas and other food and drink from Middle Earth.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of I Heart Radio.
I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Bogelbaum, and today we
have a classic episode for you about lembus and other
food of the world of Middle Earth. And this one
was such a delight. I when Lauren brought this one up,
I was like, let's rerun this one. The first thing
(00:29):
I thought of was all of the math involved. That
was the very first thing I thought of. Oh, it's
so good. Yeah, that was an amazing find. Um. Uh,
it's it's so it's so nerdy. Um and and we
just we're clearly reveling in it. And it makes me
so happy. Yeah. That this aired all the way back
in November, which was when the news broke that Amazon
(00:50):
had just bought the rights to the Lord of the
Rings Cinematic Universe for television adaptation. Um. And coincidentally, I
didn't real us this until I pitched the idea. But
there was just news that dropped today, um that that
series has rapped filming mhm, and that they have a
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debut date of September second. Whoa, yeah, and I know it.
A couple of days ago. There was a big stir
because you could see some of the first photos. Yeah,
I'm from it, uh and yeah, that's that's very exciting.
I loved I've loved just kind of randomly catching tidbits
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of news from it of you know, casting calls or
like people with strange faces and like okay, yeah, yeah
uh and that's been really exciting. And then, um, Lauren
and I we were just talking about fandom and how
interesting fandom can be. And I was a huge especially
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the movies when they first came out. It was a
huge Lord of the Rings fan. Um. But as listeners know,
I love fan fiction and Lord of the Rings was
one of the very first fan fictions I got into.
And I at the time, I had really slow internet
and I had a thirty minute time period, so I
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would print out fan fiction to read it later. And
I printed out this Lord of the Rings fan fiction
that I did not realize was seventy two chapters long,
and the chapters were like big, they were long links
like I would I had a whole punched all of
it and I wrapped it in the stream and it
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was like you're I'm making a hand chester you can't see,
but it was like a foot tall stack of like
eight by eleven paper. Oh my goodness, dude, and luckily
I liked it. Um. It did get really really dark,
even for me. But um, I just remember being like, Wow,
I hope I don't get to chapter three and Jake,
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this is this is trash to the recycling ben with you. Yeah.
Um goodness, Yeah, that's a that's a fandom I never
really got into. But I did. I did read The
Hobbit when I was in like third grade or something, um,
and got super super super into the books. Um. And
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then was so excited when the movie started coming out,
which happened when I was in what was that like,
like middle school, high school something like that. And uh
so that was glorious. But but yeah, I what are
what are wonderful? Oh? And uh and and some of
what we talked about in this episode happens um way
before the events of The Hobbit and Lord of the
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Rings um, in the prior eras of Middle Earth. Um
and uh it turns out this TV series is indeed
about the Second Age of Middle Earth, which is thousands
of years before The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
So so nerdy the Second Age. Obviously, my dad was
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a big wather rings fan and he knew like all
the supplemental materials, and he would, you know, occasionally bring
up something from what was a similar similar Realiona, and
I'd be like, trust your dad. Yeah, I've never read
that all the way through. I like have a copy
sitting on my shelf neglected. Um, but I could always
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fix that, la that I certainly could. Good. I'm not
saying you should. I'm just saying you could. It is
physically possible. You are grist Oh heck well, without further ado,
I guess we shall let former Annie and Lauren take
it away. Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Anny
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Rees and I'm Lauren vocal bam, and today we're doing
our second fictional foods episode. And a lot of you
probably from the title, but also you could guess what
it is because so many people requested it after our
first fictional food episode on butter Beer Limbus. Yes, we're
going to pass the limbus bread. We're going to walk
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straight into mortor uh oh yeah, no, no, well it's
gonna be it's gonna be harsh, but we're going to
be so well fed for the journey, that's true. Yeah, Um,
which Hobbits would certainly appreciate also probably appreciating it our listeners,
including Kate, Erica, Crafty Viking, and Asha other people I
think requested it so many I stopped recording names. I'm sorry,
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but thank you all of you. Yes, and I remember
a listener I think we read the email, but try
to make some limbus. Oh yeah, I missed that one.
Oh that sounds that sounds great. It's a difficult undertaking
for it is. Uh So, Lord of the Rings is
full of food culture, and that's sort olymbus is by
the way, Oh yes, in the Lord Friend we should
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probably mention that for people who aren't gigantic nerds, we're
just like nerds on such a nerd level we just assume. Yeah. Yeah,
but by bye jrr Tolkien. Uh so it's a whole
book thing and a movie thing and a TV show
things soon to come, right, Yeah, but yeah, yeah. The
books have a lot of food in them, partially because
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the Hobbits that are kind of the main characters are
really fond of eating. In the prolog to Fellowship of
the Ring, which is the first book in the trilogy,
Tolkien rights their faces. The Hobbits were, as a rule
good natured rather than beautiful, broad, bright eyed, red cheeked,
and with mouths apt to laughter and to eating and drinking.
And laugh they did, and eat and drink often and heartily,
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being fond of simple jests at all times, and of
six meals a day when they could get them six
meals a day. I remember, Um, I don't know how
many of you listeners had a program called a are
Accelerated Reading or something similar at school. Oh yeah, yeah,
but you got points for reading books. And when I
was in fifth grade, I read The Lord of the
Rings and I was so discouraged by how descriptive all
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the food was. And I love food, and I was like,
this is a lot, it's too much. I can't I'm
gonna be quizzed on this and I won't be able
to respond. There's a lot of detail in the books,
but mostly about like trees and running, but mushrooms. But
in mushrooms, Yeah, there's a lot of yeah um in
the books. You can count those six meals as breakfast, morning,
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tea or levenzies, lunch, afternoon tea, supper, and dinner. Um.
But the seven that Pip and rattles off in the
Fellowship movie our breakfast, second breakfast, elevenses, luncheon, afternoon tea,
dinner and supper. I'm not sure how the two of
those got supper and dinner got switched around, but future
episode just on that, I think we could that. There's
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there's a lot of debate about the meaning of these
terms and on the internet. Um, but either way, yes,
Hobbits like food, and the food that they like best
is a kind of earthy Victorian English countryside type food,
the sort of things that you can grow and cook
locally from a temperate climate. You know, mushrooms, as we said, bacon, beer, honey, apples, blackberries, eggs, butter, cheese,
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bread scones, sweet and savory pies, potatoes, turnips and carrots, uh,
roast meat, stews, pickles, you know, stuff like that. I
might make six meals out of all that food. If
I could as well, I would make one meal out
of all of that food six times a day. Hobbit yes,
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neutrend yes. In the Two Towers, the narrator explains all Hobbits,
of course, can cook, for they begin to learn the
art before their letters, which many never reach. Of course,
they can, of course they can cook, and how this
type of food probably came about in the books. Tolkien
was born in eight and grew up in a sort
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of idyllically rural, old fashioned hamlet near the sort of
grimly urban industrial center of Birmingham. He once wrote to
a fan that he was basically from the Shire and
that quote, I am, in fact a hobbit in all
but size. So does this mean that Birmingham was like
more Door? I kind of think it might have been.
I think that it's from all the descriptions from from
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the from the areas that he grew up, it sounds like, wow, yeah,
sorry about it, Birmingham. I'm sure. I'm sure it's lovely.
I've never been. Um. It is also positive that Tolkien,
being something of an English nationalist, created the Lord of
the Rings universe and its peoples and languages as sort
of a substitute for the unified mythology that England lacks.
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Um England having, you know, such a diverse and kind
of turbul history with a lot of different people's, Tolkien
wrote in a letter to Milton Waldman in nineteen fifty one,
a few years before Fellowship was first published. I was
from early days grieved by the poverty of my own
beloved country. It had no stories of its own, bound
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up in its tongue in soil, not of the quality
that I sought and found as an ingredient in legends
of other lands. There was Greek and Celtic and Romance, Germanic,
Scandinavian and Finnish, which greatly affected me, but nothing English
saved for impoverished chat book stuff. So he decided to
write some books. That he did. That he did, And
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I have to say, when we chose this topic, I
thought it would be simple. I don't know how you felt, Lauren.
I think everything's going to be simple. I am so
not simple. I was reading Elvish lore and so overwhelmed,
and I liked Lord of the Rings, and I still
like Lord of the Rings. But he wrote a lot,
he did a lot of of of back matter for that.
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If if y'all have never experienced trying to read like
the Summeralian and stuff like that, there's there's universes upon
universes of writing about Yes, this already very dense series. Exactly,
it's beautiful. It is, um of course, being an adventure series.
The main Lord of the Rings, though um Our Hobbits
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couldn't always count on those civilized six or seven meals
per day. They had to make do with what they
could travel with or forage for the same. Wise. Gamgee
notably brings some basic cooking supplies all the way to
Mortar with him, a couple of pots of wooden, spoon,
cooking fork, some salt. Uh. But yes, most of the
time the Fellowship does not have time for cooking, which
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brings us to limbus. It does. Limbus, sometimes called Elven
bread or way bread, as you may have gathered, is
a bread created by els to sustain you when traveling,
you know, like a protein bard type thing, to keep
you satisfied for when you decide to hike up mount
too one of those days, oh yeah, or many months,
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many days upon days. From the novel The Fellowship of
the Ring, Tolkien wrote, eat little at a time, and
only at need, for these things are given to serve
you when all else fails. The cakes will keep sweet
for many many days if they are unbroken and left
in their leaf wrappings as we have brought them. One
will keep a traveler on his feet for a day
of long labor, even if he be one of the
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tall men of meanest to reef yeah, so it's way
better than a protein bar, way better. And the leaf
wrappings are Malorn leaves Malorn trees, the plural of which
is to learn uh huh, because Tolkien. They are the
primary trees that make up the forests of lath Lorian,
where the where the fellowship party picks up their limbus.
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They're they're huge trees with this smooth gray silver bark
and leaves are green on top and silver underneath. If
you were wondering, they were originally from a neighboring continent
to Middle Earth is called amn Um. The inhabited lands
there called Valenore, inhabited by the volar which are sort
of godlike people, and elves brought the trees with them
to other places. From there, Gladriel herself planted the seeds
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that would become uh the Maluren trees and Lorian. See
see what we had to deal with spread It's it's
just I was on Lord of the rings Wicky pages
for just days. It felt like, Yeah, it was. It
was a beauty. It's a beautiful place to be. But
anyway is yes, and Uhla Florian is where the elves are.
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By the way, if we didn't mentioned that, and Gladriel
is like is an elf lady? Yeah, anyway, as far
as parents goes, Alembas are brownish on the outside and
cream colored on the inside. They were described as being
sort of wafer like and pretty tasty with a bit
of sweetness. Gimli the Dwarf claims they are better than cram,
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which is another thing I had to look up. It's
a biscuit made by men, and it's also better than
in cakes, which are made by the Yarnings. I apologize
for that accent up in on there to confuse matters.
Limbus is written as being made with corn, but probably
not actually corn, but something like wheat, because Tolkien was
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British and the British called corn maize and green's corn. Okay, yes, perfect.
Limbus also contains the fruit a k a. The nut
of the Malauren tree uh, which we know is silvery
on the outside, but we don't know much else about.
It's probably a good source of protein though, um, and
therefore a good thing to put in a fancy Elvin
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protein bar. Yes, and the recipe of limbus was something
kind of proprietary for the elves. Very rarely did they
share it with any non elves and evil or corrupted
creatures like I don't know, Gollum. Uh. They found limbus,
along with most products of the elves as offensive. Gollum
outright would not even try the stuff. Mm hmm. And
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the word limbus comes from what we outside of the
Lord of the Rings called Elvin, but to be more specific,
the Cindarian word for way bread um, and another Elvis language, Kenya,
limbus is called kamas are lifebread. So yeah, Sindarian is
a it's like a subset of Elvin Elvin languages. Man,
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we're really turning it up. Yeah, all right, okay, uh so,
uh let's get into some of the potential real history,
real fake history. Oh yeah, yeah, but first let's get
into a quick word from our sponsor and we're back,
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We're twisting that knob even further. So let's talk uh
some in book orderings lembus history, or what I like
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to call them the outline real fake history. So in
Elvish lore, the creation of lymbus goes way back to
the Vala Yvana Vla is a singular form of lar,
which Lauren mentioned earlier. And they were these powerful beings
whose purpose was to give order to the world. Ivana
was one of these valor called the giver of fruits
and or the Lady of the Earth. And as name suggests,
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she was in charge of planting and growing the first
plants excep. Yeah it does. Once the elves made their
Great journey to Amon, and there's a whole thing about this,
Lord Errings fans know exactly what the Great journey is,
but it's a thing um Ivanna brought they went there. Yes,
they brought them special corn again probably wheat to plant.
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And this special corn most likely was and is the
key ingredient to Lymbus. The queen of Dorius Melion have
the recipe first, later passing it to Gladriel along with
other elves, and as we said, she was the first
Gladriel to uh plant it and give it to the fellowship,
and she gave them quite a bit. How much though,
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and whether much whether that would have survived for their
entire journey, Oh, we're going to talk about it, we are. Yeah,
there have numbers involved. There's math. Meanwhile, back in what
some people might call the real world, Tolkien was Roman Catholic,
and some readers have suggested that lembus is directly influenced
by the by the bread or the wafer, part of
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the of the Eucharist, the Holy communion um, you know,
the whole uh, this wine is my blood, this bread
is my body kind of thing, um, and especially influenced
by the Holy Communion, by the Holy communion that's given
as a part of a practitioner's last rites, which is
called the viaticum and means something like a provision for
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a journey. And in this practice, the viaticum is meant
to ensure the dying person's journey into a into eternal happiness,
and limbus in the stories is also said to be
more effective during fasting and to feed the will as
much as the body. So totally totally lines up. Totally
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acknowledged to this connection, but said that it was unintentional.
Well back to some numbers, some science, some real world. Yeah,
making of limbus if it's possible. You can find a
lot of recipes for it online. There's even an Etsy
story ran into where you can buy some and in
the description the shop owner notes Maloran leaves not included.
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Most of the recipes are for something like a short
bread or scone, which sounds delicious um, and they generally
include nuts or nutmeal plus some vanilla and cinnamon, which
most of the bakers apologize for. Uh, since their tropical
plants and dust you know, wouldn't wouldn't be probably wouldn't
been there. But you never know what else get up too.
That's true, That's true. Um. In the films, the prop
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for Limbus bread ha ha was similar to an unsweetened shortbread.
The primary goals make something that looked and crumbled like
lumbus um and was also um edible because but acting
es acting is key for actors. Because of this, Shaun Aston,
who played Sam Wise Gamgi, reported that the taste was
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quite terrible on the DVD commentary. Also in the films,
Alymbus was redundantly called Limbus bread since the introductory scene
with the explanation of what limbus is was cut out
of the first film, though it is in the extended cut.
But isn't everything I kind of yeah, yeah, I'm pretty
sure it was like four hours a long goodness anyway, Uh,
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it did go on to play a pivotal role in
later films, notably when Gollum crumbles up fro To and
Sam supply of limbus and frames Sam by planting crumbs
on his cloak. Tricksy, So tricksy. And is there a
study annie? Of course there's a study. Of course there
is from Sky Rosetti and Kris show Maharan out of
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the University of Leicester, who set out to determine how
much olymbus the Fellowship would have needed for a ninety
two day journey if olympus was their only sustenance. To
do this, the metabolic rates derived from a previous study
were used for each of the species involved. And yes,
there was a previous study that came to the conclusion
that the daily calorie consumption for a thirty four year
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old male would be one thousand, eight hundred eighteen point
six one calories for a hobbit, one thousand, seven hundred
and two point two for a human, and one thousand,
four hundred sixteen point nine five for elves. Who um
from that, and assuming that the group had never got separated,
there's a lot of assumptions here that Predo had never
been captured, bore had never died spoilers, and that Gandalf
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had never done his and tangoed with the ball rog um.
The Fellowship would have needed a collective sixteen thousand, one
or forty seven point six eight calories at day to
make the journey. I love the I love the points.
I love that they know it's so fraction. It's given
that a single piece of a lymbus can sustain a
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man for an entire day, and taking into your account
the amount of time and difficulties spent daily on travel,
there's a whole chart included. There's a whole chart for
this um alembus was determined to be two thousand, six
hundred thirty eight point five calories like a piece of limbus.
That's how many calories are in like a unit. Yes,
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this means that to make the trip to more Door,
the Fellowship would need six hundred seventy five pieces of
limbus at least at least because Hobbits have big appetites.
We've talked about that, but they're small and durable, both
lymbus and hobbits. But here we're talking about limbus. So
I'm theory fictionally plausible are plausible fictionally the same? The
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article ended with questions for further thought, such as the
gluten content and possible side effects from living off limbus
for several weeks. I'm sure more research is forthcoming. The
name of this study, by the way, is simply walking
into more door. How much limbus would the fellowship have needed? Oh,
man Nerds is great. The chart blew my mind. I
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also found a forum with debate about the plausibility of
olymbus without magic. There's a whole another argument there. I
just generally agreed that it must be magic, although someone
went and bought up Clark's law to argue that it isn't. Anyway,
it went pretty in depth as to the protein, carb
and fat content you need and how you'd make it
using medieval techniques because of course uh, and the widely
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accepted conclusion was that you'd need some Elvin magic or nanobots.
That was the other theory. Also, one of the comments
was limbus is actually pizza. It just made me happy.
I never thought about that before, But man, lembus could
just be pizza. It really could. Wow. Um, just to
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give you some scope here, UM, if you assume that
a piece of lembus is about the size and weight
of like a large cookie or a slice of bread
that is like about fifty grahams or so, like two thousand,
six hundred calories is just an insane number of calories, yeah,
for that amount of food, Like even pure lard only
has about four hundred and fifty calories per a unit
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of that size. So Elvin magic is what I'm betting on. Yeah.
I mean, if you think the daily recommended value of
calories for the average adult is two thousand, yeah, so
that's more than that in one tiny cookie thing. So yeah, Elves.
Oh all right, um, so yeah, we also wanted to
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talk a little bit about some of the other foods
that appear in the Lord of the Rings. Um, but
first we're going to take another quick break for a
word from our sponsor, and we're back, Thank you sponsor. Yes. So,
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in the book's Elven food is generally described as being
kind of magical, sort of unearthly delicious. Pippin remembers of
one road supper with Elves um that there was a
bread surpassing the savor of a fair white loaf to
one who was starving, and fruits sweet as wild berries
and richer than the tended fruits of gardens and a
fragrant draft, cool as a clear fountain, golden as a
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summer afternoon draft. Can you say it both ways? I've
always said draft, so I'm going to say yes, perfect.
I'm going to agree that's lovely. It does that description
sounds lovely? Yeah, um so there. Yeah, food is important
to this universe, as we said. Some other nutritious slash
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magical foods from the Lord of the Rings universe include
the restorative int dropped, which Mary and Pip and drink
in the Two Towers the second book while they're hanging
out with some ants which are tree people. Um. There's
two versions of the draft. Actually, one is refreshing and
makes them feel all tingly and the other is richer
and feels more satisfying. Both are clear liquids um that
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heal the hobbits wounds and even make them grow a
little bit, despite being fully grown hobbits already. It's said
that because of this n drop uh, they are at
least three inches taller than any other hobbit. Three in
I know, that's a lot for a hobbit. They're only
like two to three feet and fine grow three inches.
That'd be a lot for me. That's nothing to sneeze, right.
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There's also the Orc Vitality drink, which is also also
called grog, and Lauren Lauren seems to be a fan
of this one. Okay, well, all right, so you were
the thing about about the next party. That's that's all
your note. Well, I must have had a crazy party
after that, because I don't recall writing it in our
In our notes it says, which is also called grog,
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and needs to be at my next party. And it
sounds more like a pain killer than an actual like
restorative like the n draft Um. It's also mentioned in
The Two Towers and given to Pippin, and is described
as a burning liquid. When Pippin drinks it, he felt
a hot, fierce glow flow through him. Um, the pain
in his legs and ankles vanished. He could stand wow.
So I mean, yeah, it's more like a keep you
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going kind of thing. Okay, I probably just wrote that
because of the name, but that sounds pretty good. Yeah.
This next one looks complicated to pronounce. Lauren just runs
with it, miravor. Yes, obviously, that's basically the Elvish equivalent
of mead um. And then we've got, of course, the
aforementioned cram and honey cake. Yeah, of course you need
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no explanation. Oh um. And in case you didn't know,
because I being so stolidly I'm American, did not. Um. Second,
breakfast and eleven zes aren't just funny sounding things that
hobbits do in hobbitant. They are real meals or like
snacks or refreshments really that real humans eat. What. Yes,
eleven z s existed in America for a while in
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the mid eighteen hundreds. Um. It was actually more like
a late morning whiskey break. It was the precursor to
the modern coffee break. Americans drink like a whole lot
of whiskey back then, an average of half a pint
per day at old times of the day. Oh wow. Um.
It comes from the English tradition of eleven z s,
which is a mid morning tea and light refreshment break.
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So they were doing tea and we were like, let's
add whiskey. Yeah, that sounds pretty that sounds pretty American,
especially eighteen hundreds. Dish. Um. It's not to be confused, however,
with the Chilean tradition of lance meaning the eleven which
is a sort of tea or coffee and cold snack
that's served between five and nine pm, which is probably
rooted in English traditions from settlers circle the eighteen hundreds
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and partial possibly as a code for let's go sneak
some booze, which originated in booze restricted mining towns. Um.
The booze in question was a guardiente, which is spelled
with eleven letters, so that might be I find that
sort of tenuous. But second breakfast also is a thing
that has happened in America, um, or used to happen
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in America. I've never heard of anyone. No one has
ever said the word second breakfast to me outside of
Hobbit related conversations. I've had a second breakfast, but I've
never been like, I'm going to have a second breakfast, right,
or let's all get together and have one as a group.
Unrelated to Lord of the Rings, Yeah, although Americans picked
it up a little bit reluctantly. Um. Following European traditions,
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the French, Viennese, Russians, and Germans all have second breakfasts,
which are kind of social breakfasts that are taken with
friends or co workers mid morning. In Germany it's sometimes
been called a double frustuk a k a. A fork
breakfast fork break as opposed to so something that you
like sit down and eat with a fork as opposed
to something that you just like grab and run with. Okay. Yeah. Also,
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discus is like the best word. Yeah, I mean, most
German is kind of the best word. It's pretty fun.
And that brings us to the end of this classic episode.
We hope you enjoyed all of the nursery as much
as we did. Um And recently a lot of you
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have been sending in suggestions for fictional foods or for
our food fairy tale series, which is also something we love,
and it's been fantastic and I've loved like a lot
of you have sent in pictures of feast you've made
from books that you loved or movies that you loved,
and that is fantastic and wonderful and please keep that coming. Yeah,
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some more fictional topics and we'll see what the show brings.
Maybe we'll have to do a revisit. Oh yes, okay, yes,
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Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of I Heart Radio.
I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Bogelbaum, and today we
have a classic episode for you about lembus and other
food of the world of Middle Earth. And this one
was such a delight. I when Lauren brought this one up,
I was like, let's rerun this one. The first thing
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I thought of was all of the math involved. That
was the very first thing I thought of. Oh, it's
so good. Yeah, that was an amazing find. Um. Uh,
it's it's so it's so nerdy. Um and and we
just we're clearly reveling in it. And it makes me
so happy. Yeah. That this aired all the way back
in November, which was when the news broke that Amazon
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had just bought the rights to the Lord of the
Rings Cinematic Universe for television adaptation. Um. And coincidentally, I
didn't real us this until I pitched the idea. But
there was just news that dropped today, um that that
series has rapped filming mhm, and that they have a
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debut date of September second. Whoa, yeah, and I know it.
A couple of days ago. There was a big stir
because you could see some of the first photos. Yeah,
I'm from it, uh and yeah, that's that's very exciting.
I loved I've loved just kind of randomly catching tidbits
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of news from it of you know, casting calls or
like people with strange faces and like okay, yeah, yeah
uh and that's been really exciting. And then, um, Lauren
and I we were just talking about fandom and how
interesting fandom can be. And I was a huge especially
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the movies when they first came out. It was a
huge Lord of the Rings fan. Um. But as listeners know,
I love fan fiction and Lord of the Rings was
one of the very first fan fictions I got into.
And I at the time, I had really slow internet
and I had a thirty minute time period, so I
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would print out fan fiction to read it later. And
I printed out this Lord of the Rings fan fiction
that I did not realize was seventy two chapters long,
and the chapters were like big, they were long links
like I would I had a whole punched all of
it and I wrapped it in the stream and it
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was like you're I'm making a hand chester you can't see,
but it was like a foot tall stack of like
eight by eleven paper. Oh my goodness, dude, and luckily
I liked it. Um. It did get really really dark,
even for me. But um, I just remember being like, Wow,
I hope I don't get to chapter three and Jake,
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this is this is trash to the recycling ben with you. Yeah.
Um goodness, Yeah, that's a that's a fandom I never
really got into. But I did. I did read The
Hobbit when I was in like third grade or something, um,
and got super super super into the books. Um. And
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then was so excited when the movie started coming out,
which happened when I was in what was that like,
like middle school, high school something like that. And uh
so that was glorious. But but yeah, I what are
what are wonderful? Oh? And uh and and some of
what we talked about in this episode happens um way
before the events of The Hobbit and Lord of the
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Rings um, in the prior eras of Middle Earth. Um
and uh it turns out this TV series is indeed
about the Second Age of Middle Earth, which is thousands
of years before The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
So so nerdy the Second Age. Obviously, my dad was
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a big wather rings fan and he knew like all
the supplemental materials, and he would, you know, occasionally bring
up something from what was a similar similar Realiona, and
I'd be like, trust your dad. Yeah, I've never read
that all the way through. I like have a copy
sitting on my shelf neglected. Um, but I could always
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fix that, la that I certainly could. Good. I'm not
saying you should. I'm just saying you could. It is
physically possible. You are grist Oh heck well, without further ado,
I guess we shall let former Annie and Lauren take
it away. Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Anny
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Rees and I'm Lauren vocal bam, and today we're doing
our second fictional foods episode. And a lot of you
probably from the title, but also you could guess what
it is because so many people requested it after our
first fictional food episode on butter Beer Limbus. Yes, we're
going to pass the limbus bread. We're going to walk
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straight into mortor uh oh yeah, no, no, well it's
gonna be it's gonna be harsh, but we're going to
be so well fed for the journey, that's true. Yeah, Um,
which Hobbits would certainly appreciate also probably appreciating it our listeners,
including Kate, Erica, Crafty Viking, and Asha other people I
think requested it so many I stopped recording names. I'm sorry,
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but thank you all of you. Yes, and I remember
a listener I think we read the email, but try
to make some limbus. Oh yeah, I missed that one.
Oh that sounds that sounds great. It's a difficult undertaking
for it is. Uh So, Lord of the Rings is
full of food culture, and that's sort olymbus is by
the way, Oh yes, in the Lord Friend we should
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probably mention that for people who aren't gigantic nerds, we're
just like nerds on such a nerd level we just assume. Yeah. Yeah,
but by bye jrr Tolkien. Uh so it's a whole
book thing and a movie thing and a TV show
things soon to come, right, Yeah, but yeah, yeah. The
books have a lot of food in them, partially because
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the Hobbits that are kind of the main characters are
really fond of eating. In the prolog to Fellowship of
the Ring, which is the first book in the trilogy,
Tolkien rights their faces. The Hobbits were, as a rule
good natured rather than beautiful, broad, bright eyed, red cheeked,
and with mouths apt to laughter and to eating and drinking.
And laugh they did, and eat and drink often and heartily,
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being fond of simple jests at all times, and of
six meals a day when they could get them six
meals a day. I remember, Um, I don't know how
many of you listeners had a program called a are
Accelerated Reading or something similar at school. Oh yeah, yeah,
but you got points for reading books. And when I
was in fifth grade, I read The Lord of the
Rings and I was so discouraged by how descriptive all
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the food was. And I love food, and I was like,
this is a lot, it's too much. I can't I'm
gonna be quizzed on this and I won't be able
to respond. There's a lot of detail in the books,
but mostly about like trees and running, but mushrooms. But
in mushrooms, Yeah, there's a lot of yeah um in
the books. You can count those six meals as breakfast, morning,
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tea or levenzies, lunch, afternoon tea, supper, and dinner. Um.
But the seven that Pip and rattles off in the
Fellowship movie our breakfast, second breakfast, elevenses, luncheon, afternoon tea,
dinner and supper. I'm not sure how the two of
those got supper and dinner got switched around, but future
episode just on that, I think we could that. There's
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there's a lot of debate about the meaning of these
terms and on the internet. Um, but either way, yes,
Hobbits like food, and the food that they like best
is a kind of earthy Victorian English countryside type food,
the sort of things that you can grow and cook
locally from a temperate climate. You know, mushrooms, as we said, bacon, beer, honey, apples, blackberries, eggs, butter, cheese,
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bread scones, sweet and savory pies, potatoes, turnips and carrots, uh,
roast meat, stews, pickles, you know, stuff like that. I
might make six meals out of all that food. If
I could as well, I would make one meal out
of all of that food six times a day. Hobbit yes,
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neutrend yes. In the Two Towers, the narrator explains all Hobbits,
of course, can cook, for they begin to learn the
art before their letters, which many never reach. Of course,
they can, of course they can cook, and how this
type of food probably came about in the books. Tolkien
was born in eight and grew up in a sort
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of idyllically rural, old fashioned hamlet near the sort of
grimly urban industrial center of Birmingham. He once wrote to
a fan that he was basically from the Shire and
that quote, I am, in fact a hobbit in all
but size. So does this mean that Birmingham was like
more Door? I kind of think it might have been.
I think that it's from all the descriptions from from
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the from the areas that he grew up, it sounds like, wow, yeah,
sorry about it, Birmingham. I'm sure. I'm sure it's lovely.
I've never been. Um. It is also positive that Tolkien,
being something of an English nationalist, created the Lord of
the Rings universe and its peoples and languages as sort
of a substitute for the unified mythology that England lacks.
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Um England having, you know, such a diverse and kind
of turbul history with a lot of different people's, Tolkien
wrote in a letter to Milton Waldman in nineteen fifty one,
a few years before Fellowship was first published. I was
from early days grieved by the poverty of my own
beloved country. It had no stories of its own, bound
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up in its tongue in soil, not of the quality
that I sought and found as an ingredient in legends
of other lands. There was Greek and Celtic and Romance, Germanic,
Scandinavian and Finnish, which greatly affected me, but nothing English
saved for impoverished chat book stuff. So he decided to
write some books. That he did. That he did, And
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I have to say, when we chose this topic, I
thought it would be simple. I don't know how you felt, Lauren.
I think everything's going to be simple. I am so
not simple. I was reading Elvish lore and so overwhelmed,
and I liked Lord of the Rings, and I still
like Lord of the Rings. But he wrote a lot,
he did a lot of of of back matter for that.
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If if y'all have never experienced trying to read like
the Summeralian and stuff like that, there's there's universes upon
universes of writing about Yes, this already very dense series. Exactly,
it's beautiful. It is, um of course, being an adventure series.
The main Lord of the Rings, though um Our Hobbits
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couldn't always count on those civilized six or seven meals
per day. They had to make do with what they
could travel with or forage for the same. Wise. Gamgee
notably brings some basic cooking supplies all the way to
Mortar with him, a couple of pots of wooden, spoon,
cooking fork, some salt. Uh. But yes, most of the
time the Fellowship does not have time for cooking, which
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brings us to limbus. It does. Limbus, sometimes called Elven
bread or way bread, as you may have gathered, is
a bread created by els to sustain you when traveling,
you know, like a protein bard type thing, to keep
you satisfied for when you decide to hike up mount
too one of those days, oh yeah, or many months,
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many days upon days. From the novel The Fellowship of
the Ring, Tolkien wrote, eat little at a time, and
only at need, for these things are given to serve
you when all else fails. The cakes will keep sweet
for many many days if they are unbroken and left
in their leaf wrappings as we have brought them. One
will keep a traveler on his feet for a day
of long labor, even if he be one of the
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tall men of meanest to reef yeah, so it's way
better than a protein bar, way better. And the leaf
wrappings are Malorn leaves Malorn trees, the plural of which
is to learn uh huh, because Tolkien. They are the
primary trees that make up the forests of lath Lorian,
where the where the fellowship party picks up their limbus.
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They're they're huge trees with this smooth gray silver bark
and leaves are green on top and silver underneath. If
you were wondering, they were originally from a neighboring continent
to Middle Earth is called amn Um. The inhabited lands
there called Valenore, inhabited by the volar which are sort
of godlike people, and elves brought the trees with them
to other places. From there, Gladriel herself planted the seeds
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that would become uh the Maluren trees and Lorian. See
see what we had to deal with spread It's it's
just I was on Lord of the rings Wicky pages
for just days. It felt like, Yeah, it was. It
was a beauty. It's a beautiful place to be. But
anyway is yes, and Uhla Florian is where the elves are.
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By the way, if we didn't mentioned that, and Gladriel
is like is an elf lady? Yeah, anyway, as far
as parents goes, Alembas are brownish on the outside and
cream colored on the inside. They were described as being
sort of wafer like and pretty tasty with a bit
of sweetness. Gimli the Dwarf claims they are better than cram,
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which is another thing I had to look up. It's
a biscuit made by men, and it's also better than
in cakes, which are made by the Yarnings. I apologize
for that accent up in on there to confuse matters.
Limbus is written as being made with corn, but probably
not actually corn, but something like wheat, because Tolkien was
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British and the British called corn maize and green's corn. Okay, yes, perfect.
Limbus also contains the fruit a k a. The nut
of the Malauren tree uh, which we know is silvery
on the outside, but we don't know much else about.
It's probably a good source of protein though, um, and
therefore a good thing to put in a fancy Elvin
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protein bar. Yes, and the recipe of limbus was something
kind of proprietary for the elves. Very rarely did they
share it with any non elves and evil or corrupted
creatures like I don't know, Gollum. Uh. They found limbus,
along with most products of the elves as offensive. Gollum
outright would not even try the stuff. Mm hmm. And
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the word limbus comes from what we outside of the
Lord of the Rings called Elvin, but to be more specific,
the Cindarian word for way bread um, and another Elvis language, Kenya,
limbus is called kamas are lifebread. So yeah, Sindarian is
a it's like a subset of Elvin Elvin languages. Man,
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we're really turning it up. Yeah, all right, okay, uh so,
uh let's get into some of the potential real history,
real fake history. Oh yeah, yeah, but first let's get
into a quick word from our sponsor and we're back,
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with all of this nursery and speaking of nursery dial
it up a bit. Oh wait, what what I know?
We're twisting that knob even further. So let's talk uh
some in book orderings lembus history, or what I like
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to call them the outline real fake history. So in
Elvish lore, the creation of lymbus goes way back to
the Vala Yvana Vla is a singular form of lar,
which Lauren mentioned earlier. And they were these powerful beings
whose purpose was to give order to the world. Ivana
was one of these valor called the giver of fruits
and or the Lady of the Earth. And as name suggests,
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she was in charge of planting and growing the first
plants excep. Yeah it does. Once the elves made their
Great journey to Amon, and there's a whole thing about this,
Lord Errings fans know exactly what the Great journey is,
but it's a thing um Ivanna brought they went there. Yes,
they brought them special corn again probably wheat to plant.
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And this special corn most likely was and is the
key ingredient to Lymbus. The queen of Dorius Melion have
the recipe first, later passing it to Gladriel along with
other elves, and as we said, she was the first
Gladriel to uh plant it and give it to the fellowship,
and she gave them quite a bit. How much though,
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and whether much whether that would have survived for their
entire journey, Oh, we're going to talk about it, we are. Yeah,
there have numbers involved. There's math. Meanwhile, back in what
some people might call the real world, Tolkien was Roman Catholic,
and some readers have suggested that lembus is directly influenced
by the by the bread or the wafer, part of
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the of the Eucharist, the Holy communion um, you know,
the whole uh, this wine is my blood, this bread
is my body kind of thing, um, and especially influenced
by the Holy Communion, by the Holy communion that's given
as a part of a practitioner's last rites, which is
called the viaticum and means something like a provision for
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a journey. And in this practice, the viaticum is meant
to ensure the dying person's journey into a into eternal happiness,
and limbus in the stories is also said to be
more effective during fasting and to feed the will as
much as the body. So totally totally lines up. Totally
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acknowledged to this connection, but said that it was unintentional.
Well back to some numbers, some science, some real world. Yeah,
making of limbus if it's possible. You can find a
lot of recipes for it online. There's even an Etsy
story ran into where you can buy some and in
the description the shop owner notes Maloran leaves not included.
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Most of the recipes are for something like a short
bread or scone, which sounds delicious um, and they generally
include nuts or nutmeal plus some vanilla and cinnamon, which
most of the bakers apologize for. Uh, since their tropical
plants and dust you know, wouldn't wouldn't be probably wouldn't
been there. But you never know what else get up too.
That's true, That's true. Um. In the films, the prop
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for Limbus bread ha ha was similar to an unsweetened shortbread.
The primary goals make something that looked and crumbled like
lumbus um and was also um edible because but acting
es acting is key for actors. Because of this, Shaun Aston,
who played Sam Wise Gamgi, reported that the taste was
(19:25):
quite terrible on the DVD commentary. Also in the films,
Alymbus was redundantly called Limbus bread since the introductory scene
with the explanation of what limbus is was cut out
of the first film, though it is in the extended cut.
But isn't everything I kind of yeah, yeah, I'm pretty
sure it was like four hours a long goodness anyway, Uh,
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it did go on to play a pivotal role in
later films, notably when Gollum crumbles up fro To and
Sam supply of limbus and frames Sam by planting crumbs
on his cloak. Tricksy, So tricksy. And is there a
study annie? Of course there's a study. Of course there
is from Sky Rosetti and Kris show Maharan out of
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the University of Leicester, who set out to determine how
much olymbus the Fellowship would have needed for a ninety
two day journey if olympus was their only sustenance. To
do this, the metabolic rates derived from a previous study
were used for each of the species involved. And yes,
there was a previous study that came to the conclusion
that the daily calorie consumption for a thirty four year
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old male would be one thousand, eight hundred eighteen point
six one calories for a hobbit, one thousand, seven hundred
and two point two for a human, and one thousand,
four hundred sixteen point nine five for elves. Who um
from that, and assuming that the group had never got separated,
there's a lot of assumptions here that Predo had never
been captured, bore had never died spoilers, and that Gandalf
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had never done his and tangoed with the ball rog um.
The Fellowship would have needed a collective sixteen thousand, one
or forty seven point six eight calories at day to
make the journey. I love the I love the points.
I love that they know it's so fraction. It's given
that a single piece of a lymbus can sustain a
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man for an entire day, and taking into your account
the amount of time and difficulties spent daily on travel,
there's a whole chart included. There's a whole chart for
this um alembus was determined to be two thousand, six
hundred thirty eight point five calories like a piece of limbus.
That's how many calories are in like a unit. Yes,
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this means that to make the trip to more Door,
the Fellowship would need six hundred seventy five pieces of
limbus at least at least because Hobbits have big appetites.
We've talked about that, but they're small and durable, both
lymbus and hobbits. But here we're talking about limbus. So
I'm theory fictionally plausible are plausible fictionally the same? The
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article ended with questions for further thought, such as the
gluten content and possible side effects from living off limbus
for several weeks. I'm sure more research is forthcoming. The
name of this study, by the way, is simply walking
into more door. How much limbus would the fellowship have needed? Oh,
man Nerds is great. The chart blew my mind. I
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also found a forum with debate about the plausibility of
olymbus without magic. There's a whole another argument there. I
just generally agreed that it must be magic, although someone
went and bought up Clark's law to argue that it isn't. Anyway,
it went pretty in depth as to the protein, carb
and fat content you need and how you'd make it
using medieval techniques because of course uh, and the widely
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accepted conclusion was that you'd need some Elvin magic or nanobots.
That was the other theory. Also, one of the comments
was limbus is actually pizza. It just made me happy.
I never thought about that before, But man, lembus could
just be pizza. It really could. Wow. Um, just to
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give you some scope here, UM, if you assume that
a piece of lembus is about the size and weight
of like a large cookie or a slice of bread
that is like about fifty grahams or so, like two thousand,
six hundred calories is just an insane number of calories, yeah,
for that amount of food, Like even pure lard only
has about four hundred and fifty calories per a unit
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of that size. So Elvin magic is what I'm betting on. Yeah.
I mean, if you think the daily recommended value of
calories for the average adult is two thousand, yeah, so
that's more than that in one tiny cookie thing. So yeah, Elves.
Oh all right, um, so yeah, we also wanted to
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talk a little bit about some of the other foods
that appear in the Lord of the Rings. Um, but
first we're going to take another quick break for a
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in the book's Elven food is generally described as being
kind of magical, sort of unearthly delicious. Pippin remembers of
one road supper with Elves um that there was a
bread surpassing the savor of a fair white loaf to
one who was starving, and fruits sweet as wild berries
and richer than the tended fruits of gardens and a
fragrant draft, cool as a clear fountain, golden as a
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summer afternoon draft. Can you say it both ways? I've
always said draft, so I'm going to say yes, perfect.
I'm going to agree that's lovely. It does that description
sounds lovely? Yeah, um so there. Yeah, food is important
to this universe, as we said. Some other nutritious slash
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magical foods from the Lord of the Rings universe include
the restorative int dropped, which Mary and Pip and drink
in the Two Towers the second book while they're hanging
out with some ants which are tree people. Um. There's
two versions of the draft. Actually, one is refreshing and
makes them feel all tingly and the other is richer
and feels more satisfying. Both are clear liquids um that
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heal the hobbits wounds and even make them grow a
little bit, despite being fully grown hobbits already. It's said
that because of this n drop uh, they are at
least three inches taller than any other hobbit. Three in
I know, that's a lot for a hobbit. They're only
like two to three feet and fine grow three inches.
That'd be a lot for me. That's nothing to sneeze, right.
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There's also the Orc Vitality drink, which is also also
called grog, and Lauren Lauren seems to be a fan
of this one. Okay, well, all right, so you were
the thing about about the next party. That's that's all
your note. Well, I must have had a crazy party
after that, because I don't recall writing it in our
In our notes it says, which is also called grog,
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and needs to be at my next party. And it
sounds more like a pain killer than an actual like
restorative like the n draft Um. It's also mentioned in
The Two Towers and given to Pippin, and is described
as a burning liquid. When Pippin drinks it, he felt
a hot, fierce glow flow through him. Um, the pain
in his legs and ankles vanished. He could stand wow.
So I mean, yeah, it's more like a keep you
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going kind of thing. Okay, I probably just wrote that
because of the name, but that sounds pretty good. Yeah.
This next one looks complicated to pronounce. Lauren just runs
with it, miravor. Yes, obviously, that's basically the Elvish equivalent
of mead um. And then we've got, of course, the
aforementioned cram and honey cake. Yeah, of course you need
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no explanation. Oh um. And in case you didn't know,
because I being so stolidly I'm American, did not. Um. Second,
breakfast and eleven zes aren't just funny sounding things that
hobbits do in hobbitant. They are real meals or like
snacks or refreshments really that real humans eat. What. Yes,
eleven z s existed in America for a while in
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the mid eighteen hundreds. Um. It was actually more like
a late morning whiskey break. It was the precursor to
the modern coffee break. Americans drink like a whole lot
of whiskey back then, an average of half a pint
per day at old times of the day. Oh wow. Um.
It comes from the English tradition of eleven z s,
which is a mid morning tea and light refreshment break.
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So they were doing tea and we were like, let's
add whiskey. Yeah, that sounds pretty that sounds pretty American,
especially eighteen hundreds. Dish. Um. It's not to be confused, however,
with the Chilean tradition of lance meaning the eleven which
is a sort of tea or coffee and cold snack
that's served between five and nine pm, which is probably
rooted in English traditions from settlers circle the eighteen hundreds
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and partial possibly as a code for let's go sneak
some booze, which originated in booze restricted mining towns. Um.
The booze in question was a guardiente, which is spelled
with eleven letters, so that might be I find that
sort of tenuous. But second breakfast also is a thing
that has happened in America, um, or used to happen
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in America. I've never heard of anyone. No one has
ever said the word second breakfast to me outside of
Hobbit related conversations. I've had a second breakfast, but I've
never been like, I'm going to have a second breakfast, right,
or let's all get together and have one as a group.
Unrelated to Lord of the Rings, Yeah, although Americans picked
it up a little bit reluctantly. Um. Following European traditions,
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the French, Viennese, Russians, and Germans all have second breakfasts,
which are kind of social breakfasts that are taken with
friends or co workers mid morning. In Germany it's sometimes
been called a double frustuk a k a. A fork
breakfast fork break as opposed to so something that you
like sit down and eat with a fork as opposed
to something that you just like grab and run with. Okay. Yeah. Also,
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discus is like the best word. Yeah, I mean, most
German is kind of the best word. It's pretty fun.
And that brings us to the end of this classic episode.
We hope you enjoyed all of the nursery as much
as we did. Um And recently a lot of you
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have been sending in suggestions for fictional foods or for
our food fairy tale series, which is also something we love,
and it's been fantastic and I've loved like a lot
of you have sent in pictures of feast you've made
from books that you loved or movies that you loved,
and that is fantastic and wonderful and please keep that coming. Yeah,
(29:48):
we love doing these. So we're very excited to tackle
some more fictional topics and we'll see what the show brings.
Maybe we'll have to do a revisit. Oh yes, okay, yes,
But in the meantime, if you would like to email us,
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.