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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I'm welcome to stuff
I ever told your production by Hurt Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And welcome to part two.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
This is the second segment of the year for feminists
around the world, and somehow I have made this a
two parter already. I swear to god, it's only gonna
be two parts. Okay, dot dot dot, If you know
anything about me about the show, I like to elongate episodes.
Apparently it stretched out all of them. But I think
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it's really important that we have this conversation. If you
didn't listen to the first part, you should probably take
a break and go ahead and listen to that first
part because we're gonna kind of introduce ourselves in the
podcast and also give flowers to our creators of this podcast,
specifically Kristen and Caroline and of course Molly, and I
will say I've never met Molly, so it's kind of like,
(01:03):
I don't know who this is, but I know the
two of them really put a lot of work into
the show. So yeah, take a paus, go listen to
that one and then come back to this one and
you have a chance. But yes, we are on part
two of us again on feminists around the world talking
about our works and just about what this show is
about a little bit and how we want to continue
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to celebrate as well as you know, tell the ugly
truth with what's happening in feminism and intersectional feminism here
and specifically in the US, but we do try to
do internationally when it comes to this segment, So if
you have people that we need to highlight, please let
us know. I think you are y'all done a really
great job letting us know, so keep that up. But yeah,
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so we're coming back. We were just finished in the
previous episode about talking about the journey and how much
we've learned since starting the podcast versus where we are today,
and I thought we would jump into what is something
that you love about this podcast? Annie?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I love the research. I love learning new things. I
love sharing those new things with people. That's probably my
favorite part is when I get to really really dig
into research. Does it get overwhelming sometimes, yes, But I
really I really like the learning aspects, and I like
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hearing from listeners, and I like talking with you.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, you know, speaking of because I do love the
fact that it's me and you and it keeps us
on consistent basis of like seeing somebody, yea outside of
our own house. You you'll be Ruby, me and Peaches
and my partner. But I also really love the fact
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that we can connect with so many different peopleeople who
we've had on interviews. I know one year we kind
of just flew through because we were trying to get
all the content and getting good stuff. Things were changing
quickly during COVID and doing the pandemic re elections, so
we didn't have as many people. We had several people,
but like not as many people. And you know, from Jump.
I said I was coming on here to make friends
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from Jump, and I think I've done pretty well. I
want to say I've done pretty well with this. Did
we go see some people in New York that we
met because of the podcast?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Did I love every bit of it? Yes?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Uh do?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I love the fact that we have two interviews coming
up next week, one person who you're excited about that
I'm excited to learn about. Like I love the people
that come through and have such deep conversations and teach
us so many things that I would have never thought about. Cicadas.
Who knew you?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Did? I know?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Andy, don't start with me, but having those moments, having
different people come on conversations with us, having Christina as
super producer, come on and talk about Twilight that's a dream,
That's a dream, and then having Joey come on, not
only talking about their experiences and dating as a gen zer,
you know, telling us about the world that we might
not see. They also come in here talk about how
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much the love sex in the cities even though it
was out and done with before they were born. Essentially,
it's fine, I'm fine anyway, But I love these moments
of getting to connect with the people, including our listeners,
and you learn about new things and hopefully opening up
this platform for more people to have conversations. I think
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that's the biggest thing that I have always been adamant
about in my life, whether it was during my times
in my Christian journey. Go see those spiritual like religious
trauma episodes about that or any of that. Is connecting
with people and learning about people and learning how people
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work and how we can better help each other and
support each other. Also guarding yourself about false information, missing information,
and learning truths. Having Bridget on this show as a
consistent has been such a huge for the lack of
better terms as I talk about religious trauma, blessings, you know,
and has been really amazing and such a learning experience
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which she comes on when Eves comes on giving us
historical people that we would have never known about. Has
she not read all about them and had like the
moment of being like, oh, this person is perfect for
this show. I just love that aspect of this show.
Love communicating with people. As much of an introvert as
I am, learning from people is one of my favorite pastimes.
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I don't think people are fascinating.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah they are. They are. I get nervous and be honest,
but I do love it a lot of too.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
You know, a fangirl too and I'm like, oh, I
can't talk anymore. I don't know. And with that, tell
me something that you don't love but you know it's
necessary for this work.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
My first answer would be social media, but we don't
even do it so I I personally do. It used
to be like a bigger thing, and for some people
it still is. Don't get me wrong, but it used
to be we were like told you had to do it,
and now it's sort of like if you want and
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we're I I'll speak for myself. I'm very, very, very
very busy, and so the social media part has kind
of gone out the window. I would say, I think
this is incredibly important, but I don't love that some
of the topics we have to talk about are so intense.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's more it's not that I don't like I don't
I think we should talk about them, but it's just
it just takes a toll, That's that's it.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's absolutely truthful. And in this manner,
like researching certain things that you wish you never knew about. Yeah,
seeing how dark things can be in the world. You know.
I've talked about the fact that in my field, that's
that's all I knew, is like the darkness of it,
and trying to cling to anything that was good. So
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like making sure that I didn't do so much work
that that's all I thought about. Having mental health assistance
slash counseling and therapy so good, so good has always
been a thing. And with this, I think the least
favorite part is being so connected with like current affairs
and news and and feeling like you can't do much
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about it, like I think, and I want to come
back and have a big conversation because at one point
I was researching the People's March slash what used to
be with the Women's March Foundation, and you know, they
went through a lot of controversy and they went through
a lot of changes, and then having big talk about
it and the new conversation that a lot of the
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black women in the black community is like, we've done
this work, y'all failed us, so we're going to step
back rightly, so rightly. So there's so many things to this,
and then not completely trusting organizations that have shown that
they do leave a certain community out, so really wanting
to have that conversation again and being in the forefront
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and seeing like that falling apart, which we had been
like in this level of like, oh, this is such
a great idea and we want to celebrate this, but
then they dropped the ball or we but then we
dropped the ball because we didn't include again the intersectional
part in this feminist conversation and then why it fell apart.
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And I think that's some of the things that I'm like, oh, man,
I hate this. I hate that we have to talk
about this. I hate that we have to go into
the depth of the ugliness of this, because it does
feel disheartening, it feels discouraging, but at the same time
coming back to knowing that is important so we can
dismantle that level of racism that is oftentimes a part
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of this conversation, the internalized racism, the internalized misogyny. It
still absolutely exists, especially for those who have grown up
in a culture that they were privileged and not not
necessarily to be too affected by. And I say this
as an Asian person in a white culture, which I
saw how they did not like people of color, but
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you know, in this level of conversation also knowing that
I'm still very privileged because instead of being completely outright racist,
they were just confused by my ethnicity dot dot dot.
So yeah, I think that's something that we, you know,
have to acknowledge. Like we do talk about some really
sad or really discouraging or really alarming scary things, but
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we talk about it, and we have to talk about
it so we can dismantle it and or we can
clear up any misinformation disinformation that keeps being out there.
And honestly, we need this for our own cleansing sometimes
to have people back up and be like, yeah, that's
not good. We agree, like ill, We're like okay, because
sometimes I feel like when you're in a certain environment,
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you're like, wait, does no one else see that this
is not okay? It might what's happening? What's happening? I
say this as a girl in Georgia with a very
conservative family, So I need that. And with that coming back,
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just just as a reminder as about our podcast, what
is our podcast about? What is how does our podcast work?
And y'all, sometimes we don't know either a very large company, right,
things change often, standards are changing. We don't know what
this new administration is going to bring, especially when it
comes to censorship or any of the new rulings or
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advertising or whatever whatnot. What we know is the one
thing we know is that this administration loves corporations. Yeah
that dot dot does not I do, That's just my life.
But like also they but they do not like being
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spoken against. So who knows, who knows what this has
look like. But just as a podcast, we are all
about honesty. So when we're confronted with truths or things
that we have made mistakes in, we try to fix it.
We try to correct it, and we try to learn
from it. We do lots of research all I know,
it seems kind of odd, but we do. We do
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a lot of research, and sometimes that rearch research becomes
so overwhelming that we might skip something. Because as the
second part of our episode, which is supposed to be
personal and about us, it's a lot of information take
in and there's a lot of rabbit holes that you
can go down. I'm the queen of them that Annie,
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but Anie does better and like you have more discipline
of stopping I think I have.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I wouldn't say that I think I'm better at Like, Okay,
this has to be we can't have an hour and
thirty minutes on this. People got stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
To say, I don't know what you're talking about. I
don't know what you're talking about anyway. And then on
top of that, as we pointed out, yes, we are
a part of a very large corporation that runs on ads.
We know, we know we're going to try our best
on our end to do less ads. I don't know
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how else to say it, Like, we know that there's
a lot of them. There is a skip button for
a lot of the apps that you might listen to,
so use that if you can we apologize. This is
how we make our living, but we don't have control
on how many.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
No, sometimes we don't even know how many are in
there because sometimes they add another one. And that was
a surprise to us.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah. And if there's some ad on here that you
here that does not align with our beliefs, please let
us know.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, please, especially if it wasn't read by us, because
we don't get to We don't know what those are.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Right, we don't.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's the news to us.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yes, and then a lot of y'all have been on
top of it, and we thank you for them added
help because we don't listen to our own podcast like that.
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
We we listen to it to make sure there's no edits,
but then I think, perfectly sanely, we don't listen to it.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
On Hey, there's nothing wrong in liking your own podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
There is, but personally no things. I'm not going to
listen to it again after.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I already do it, and I've listened to it at
one point five to one point seventy five speed and
I sound much better at that speed.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Y'all.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Just advice and then just coming around, what are some
of the hopes for the future of this podcast as
well as yourself. Anny, And I'm just kidding. You don't
have to do any resolutions. Just what's the hopes for
the podcast?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Oh my.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
We are hoping to get to go to a couple
of conferences and meet some people that we can bring
on the show, having more interviews. I like that we
get to try new things. I like our segments we
already have, but I like trying new things, So maybe
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doing some some experiments. I mean, my very logistical goal
would be I would love if it didn't feel like
I would be overwhelmed with stuff every every day. But
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some of that is a little out of my control
as well. Also, I would love I don't think this
is going to be the case, but I would love
if we could have some happy news in our political
realm that we could report on. I would really like that. Yeah,
that would be great.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Hopes for the future. Hopes for the future. Yes, I
think that's definitely said in point like or we're holding
our breath a little bit. We re hesitant in everything,
but we're going to cross our fingers and get some
great news. I will say, when it comes to these
bad times, we see people who rise and we love
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celebrating that, so definitely we're looking forward to that. Yes, interviews,
more interviews, all the interviews, interactions with y'all. If we
can a lot of community from you, more, give us
more email us. We got a simpler email address to
use that.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
We've had it for a long time, but I've been
too busy.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yes, but now now we're getting it. We couldn't get there,
so just hello at stuff. I'm never told you dot com. Yep,
there it is even I remembered it. God, wow, there
you go. Uh there's that. Also, Yeah, I think we
want to dive back into historically related like fun fact
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type ish feminist topics because I would like to talk
about that more. I want I want to jump into
that more, talk about more feminist icons, whether it is historical,
whether they are being celebrated today, which you know we
love to do. This will be that segment feminist around
the world, and feminist is non binary people, trans people,
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all the people's and we want to celebrate them who
have been working really hard and tirelessly as well. I
have a feeling like the next couple of years is
going to bring out some really big players in the
activism world. I'm very excited. That's a good prediction. That's
I feel, that's a prediction that I'm going to hold
onto and I'm excited about discovering that's already already at hand.
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I've seen so many young people, and yes, I a
forty something year all just said young people that I've
come out swinging and I love it, and I'm really
excited to report and talk more about them in the
upcoming future. Top have more of the people of our
own show come through. Christina is gonna hopefully come home
(17:41):
some more. Yeah, Maya is on a break. We're not
gonna spill her, spill her her business, but she's on
a break. But when she comes back, her and of
course Joey always Joey, love their content, love their conversation.
Excited hopefully hearing back from all the people who've been contributing.
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Mm hmmm, friend of the show, because you know, I
love making friends.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
You do you do?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
And what else? Oh? The Last of Us Season two
is coming, So should we have a what is it?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
What did we call it? We called it like a special,
like a miniseries special. I was thinking about this, Are
we going to do it again?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, it wasn't necessarily like a live reaction a week later,
because we didn't want to spoil Christina. Yeah, poor Christina.
Heads up is coming up at April's calendar. But that's coming,
and so to celebrate that, because you know, we love
content that's around some of our face. Annie's faves. I
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love it because Sexilicity is mine. We're still that will
never end apparently, but with that, I thought it would
end this segment by taking and this is based on
the show, not the actual game, like, what character are
you from season one? And Annie, can I tell you
I was Joel. I didn't think I would be Joel,
and mainly I didn't think I would be Joel because
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the quote it was definitely not a Joel quote, but
it says I am Joel. You're a realist when it
comes to the difficulty of life and the world around you.
But just because you've seen some shit doesn't mean you're
about to turn your back on the people who need you.
And people do need you. They need your protective instincts,
your ability to think on your feet, and someday we
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hope you're heretofore unrevealed singing skills. You may be a
bit of a curmudgeon, but you haven't lost your sense
of humor or your capacity to love deeply. Bonus points
if you know how to build a house, ride a horse,
or appreciate a damn fine pun. I don't know to
do any of those things, so no one's points for me.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You don't like my puns?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I love Wow? How about this? Are you okay? I
will say I appreciate them?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Okay, okay?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Andy? Who are you?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I got Frank? I was nervous to take it, take
this quid and you're like, oh no, I actually took
it twice because you know how like there are some
that you're sure of and there's some you're like, it's
this one or this one fine? And I was frank
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both times.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Are you trying to be Ellie? No?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I was just curious, But I am curious what it
would take to get Ellie. Maybe I'll experiment later. But anyway,
mine says you're a good nature and optimism shine through
the darkest of times, and that attitude inspires the people
in your life to be their own best, most of
filled selves. Your environment is very important to you, and
you like to fill it with beautiful things, star wars,
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things that reflect your own outlook. You're an artistic, gentle
soul with an endless social battery. That doesn't mean you
can't handle yourself in a conflict, especially when you draw
on your stubbornness and dry sense of humor and knowledge
of Arby's pre apocalypse business practices.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I help arb paid this show somehow, they too, too,
harp on this.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
They have a very funny Arby's is one of those
businesses that's like, yeah, you could talk talk trash about it,
so but are you advertising?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yes, they do. I think they have some of the
and most interesting because they haven't really diverse from any
because they use that one dude who says we got
the meat.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, tied to that they do well. It seems to
be working. It does Let's of an apocalypse perhaps, but yes.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Well, I guess I haven't really Arbies in a long time,
so maybe it's not working anyway. We're also not sponsored
by armies. But anyway, coming back to thank you for
joining us for our two part Who are we in
the feminist realm? As feminists around the world, Guys, we
do say we are feminists and we hold tightly to
that label because we think it's important and we are
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here to fight with you.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yes, yes we are, and we appreciate you all so much,
and please send your ideas, what you would like to see,
your hopes for the podcast, or just we love hearing
from you, so as contact us. What character are you
from the last of us? If you've got Ellie.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Toe, Yeah, let us know if you've got Ellie and
then let her know.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well, let me cheat on this quiz that means nothing. Oh,
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Thanks as always to our super producer Christina, our executive producer,
and our contribute Joey. Thank you, We love you, we do,
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