May 2, 2024 • 19 mins
Got blue milk? Anney does, and in anticipation of Star Wars day, she breaks down some what-could-have-beens and theories circulating in the Star Wars fandoms.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. Welcome to Steff. I
never told you a production of I Hurted you, And
welcome to another edition of A Happy Hour. May Star
Wars edition, Yes, yes it Yes, as always, if you
(00:29):
are drinking or whatever you're choosing to do, do so responsibly.
If we mentioned anything in here, we're not currently sponsored
by it, even Star Wars, so believe it or that
missed opportunities, missed opportunities. Samantha, are you sipping on anything?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yes, bubble water?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
What about you?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh well, I am sipping on blue milk. Oh you
found I found some blue milk.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
What's it taste like?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It tastes like vanilla milk, okay, whitely sweet milk.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
There's a splash of remit there.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Put any alcohol in it, so I've had.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
A little bit of rem So for those who don't know,
blue milk is kind of the iconic milk that you
see throughout the series. You see it first in a
New Hope when Lucas drinking it. It's available at the
Disney theme parks, where it's not milk. Actually, but this,
from what I've read, is the first time you've ever
been able to buy it in grocery stores. It's limited
(01:37):
time promotion, and I couldn't find it anywhere, and I
was like, oh no, and yes I am a sucker.
I can hear all of you rolling your eyes, and
that's fair. But I was like, blue milk, I've got
to get it. I also got Yeah, I got I
got some Star Wars hot sauce too.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But what is that? What is that?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well, I haven't gotten it yet, but it has ghost
pet for it. It's gonna kick. I can't wait. It's
got Darth Vader's helmet on it, and I personally love
I think I might write a fan fiction about this,
because I'm deciding what my fan fiction will be that
I post on Star Wars Day, May the fourth, okay,
And I think there could be a fun opportunity of
(02:15):
Darth Vader realizing how much merchandise has his face on it. Ah,
because it's just his helmet. Yeah, I think there's a
lot you'd be angry about.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But I think he's upset.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I think he'll be.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Because he didn't capitalize on it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I think he'll be upset because they're not respecting him.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
How dare you make me a bubblehead type.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Or he's like a waffle iron. There's yes tissue paper
like it's true, so there's a lot. I think something
like dot toy, a dog toy. Yeah, I got one.
It's pas.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
She loves yes, takes the cape and just sling.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I think this is great. I think this is a
good idea. I think this is what I'm going to
go with because I wanted something kind of lighter for
this one. But anyway, I couldn't find the blue milk.
And my good friend friend of the show, Katie found
it for me. Of course, she cured it for me,
brought it. We tried it this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
She's a wizard. Yes, she finds things.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
She finds the thing I did. I was like, I
knew she would be the one, and I said, can
you please keep an eye out? And like a day later,
she said, I found it And there was even a
website you could go on and like search it out,
and it wasn't showing up on anywhere near me, but
she found it. Anyway, She and I and another friend
(03:43):
tried it this weekend and we tried it with a
bunch of different things, and we made up a bunch
of different drinks. So it's been fun. It's been fun.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I still a Kurt's thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Well. The other funny part of it is somehow my
friend got I won't say co worse, but basically a
sweet shop owner talked her into buying banana frum and
we've been trying to we've been trying to use this
and so we were trying to come up with drinks
with that. I yeah, I'm like a one and done
(04:15):
with this.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh yeah, she told me about this. She's like, I
don't even to bring it to you because you can
make cocktails. Like I don't know if I can save that.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes, because she texted me and she was asking me, like,
what can I do with this? And I said, I
don't know. That's the first I've heard of this. But anyway,
it is very nice. But yes, it is a one
and done for me. But I'm happy I found it.
And I've seen a lot of people experimenting with it,
like making pancakes with it and stuff like that. So
(04:44):
that's cool. For today, Yes, we are talking about Star Wars,
and I love how many people have been contacting me
about my thoughts on the prequel trilogy because the Phantom
Menace is going to be back in theaters. I also
have a fun project on Savor other podcasts we do
(05:04):
where we're talking about popcorn buckets, and there's very elaborate
popcorn buckets for Star Wars. I have to say, I
didn't realize, and it's one of those things where I'm
kind of stressed out because I sort of just planning
on like watching Star Wars and eating food Star Wars
and food and drinking Star Wars seem drinks. But I'm
(05:26):
happy people want to hang out. I'm glad. I'm glad
people are celebrating it. But I don't know what I'm
gonna do yet. However, So today I did want to
talk about something. This is actually an article I found
a couple of months ago, and it's called eleven things
we Know about George Lucas's unused Star Wars sequel chilogy scripts.
And this is from screen Rants by Liz Declin. This
(05:48):
has been circulating around for a while, like these ideas have.
I want to say at the front that this doesn't
necessarily I don't want this to sound like I'm saying
equal trilogy sexist would have been better. I think that
in a very strange way that I wasn't anticipating the
(06:08):
Disney ones are much sadder than whats, but I didn't
want to go over it just because it does. It
did make me kind of sad because I was like, oh,
that would have been so much nicer, Like that's like
a happier ending.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I mean, I feel like there's a flip of times
where we'll get things that are all happy endings and
then they're like, no, now we have to twist it.
Everything has to be really really sad. And it's just
like a genre bending where they're like, all right, we're
gonna switch it up now, and if one person does it,
everybody's got yep, we gotta do that too.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I think you're right, And I know I've talked about
this before, but I'm honestly fascinated with this thing that
I've seen happen in a lot of franchises where somebody
who grew up watching like the original trilogy in this case,
loved it, they get the chance to direct one and
they make it so much sadder, and it's usually like
(07:04):
the people from the original trilogy have given up. I
was like, it's like it's like you get older and
you're like, I'm done with this optimism.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Everything is awful. I'm in pain for are you?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yes, it's fascinating to me. Like Star Wars is not
the only thing. I have a lot of examples of
people franchises where that has happened. So I just wanted
to go over some of the big ones that the
big points in this article that I was like, ah,
and a lot of them, if you're like this not feminism,
a lot of them are about Leyah. Oh bumps me
(07:39):
out because you know, I love Leiah. No, But originally
Leia was going to be the main character of the
sequel trilogy. She was going to be revealed as the
Chosen One, which, if you don't know, this is a
(07:59):
very convoluted and controversial and much argued idea in Star
Wars about who's a Chosen One. Usually it's either you
think it was Anakin Darth Vader or you think it
was Luke. In the sequel trilogy, it would have been
really revealed to be Leyah. It's so cool, Oh my gosh.
(08:20):
The Chosen One is supposed to bring balance to the
force and the like. The whole idea why people get
so like, why they like to fight about it is
people like to fight about what balance means because Luke
is sort of your light side, darth Vader's sort of
your dark side, so she I think this is such
a cool idea, like if it had been revealed, and
(08:42):
also because Leah understandably has a lot of hang ups
around the Force. She's afraid of it, She's afraid of
what she's seen it do, She's afraid of darth Vader.
She doesn't like darth Vader, like accepting any of that.
That would have been such a great like emotional arc,
or it could have been if they handled it correctly.
(09:03):
But yeah, like that could have been like a really
cool having her come to terms with that, that would
have been really neat. She was also going to become
the leader of the New Republic, which is also pretty
cool because that would follow in like the footsteps of
(09:25):
Bail Organa, who is her adoptive father, and Padme Amdala,
which is her biological mother. And also she was just
a great leader. But so many things that we saw
in the Disney sequel trilogy didn't work, which is what
I mean is the New Republic didn't work, like the
Jedi Order didn't work. Like these things didn't work, And
(09:47):
I think that. You know, that's an interesting storyline, sad one,
but it is interesting. A lot of things in this
version would have worked better. Like it's not like it
would have been easy, but her New Republic would have
succeeded as opposed to the New Republican the sequel trilogy,
which kind of collapsed pretty soon. I guess I should
(10:10):
say spoiler alert, but I feel like people know about
this stuff. Ten years is the rule. Twenty nineteen was
the Rise of Skywalker. Well, sorry, uh, another thing, and
(10:36):
I just have to fit this in here because like Skywalker's,
like my fave, his Jedi Temple would never have fallen apart.
He would have made some changes and it would have
and it would It would have had trouble, but it
would have worked out. It would have been destroyed also
very quickly. Also, that would have been nice. That would
(10:57):
have been nice. The main and was gonna be Darth Maul,
who was introduced in the Phantom Menace, and you can
see hints of that and a lot of the like
the Solo movie and in some of the animated stuff
that he was meant to have a much bigger role.
This also entails that his apprentice, who was a very
(11:18):
sexualized version of Darth Maule was gonna be in there.
She hasn't shown up yet in Disney Cannon, but I
bet she will. I don't know how people will feel
about it. Yeah, and then more Jedi would have survived.
(11:38):
That would have been nice.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No murder of children, that would have been lovely.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, the prequels already did that. Why'd we have to
do that again? Yeah? Yes, Sleigh would have been the
leader of this. She would have been a mentor to
a lot of people. And yeah, I just really likes
that she would have been such a vocal point of it. Again, like,
this is ideas that I get why they didn't do them,
(12:09):
for logistical reasons, technological technological reasons, and also that this
sounding good on paper doesn't mean it would have worked.
We've seen that before, so I want to make that
very clear. But when I was reading, I was like,
oh my gosh, this sounds so much nicer. This sounds
so much nicer. And I did want to also mention
(12:32):
I was reading last night as I want to do
another article. I sort of love the ongoing debates that happen.
The pain of my existence is something I also love.
Both are true about certain things in Star Wars. One
of the big things that we have talked about before
in our prequel episode that we did, but also in
episode where I've talked about Padme, this is the controversy
(12:54):
around Padme's death and what it meant. There is a
popular it's not really a meme, but there's something pops
circulating around social media right now that's like how we
remember Padme. She died broken heart, and then on the
other side of the chart, it's like everything she did
and she did all this amazing stuff. So I like
that her character is sort of getting some recognition. But
(13:17):
one of the big things people often talk about is
her death, like did the Emperor cause it? Did she
die of a broken heart? Did Anakin kind of slowly
kill her accidentally via choking so that wasn't accidental, But
did she die from the fallout of that? One of
the things I've never heard this before, but we did
talk about it briefly. There was kind of a scrapped
(13:39):
idea that about the impact of having a force sensitive
child would have on someone who's pregnant. Would they then
like have some temporary force abilities or something like that,
And especially if it's somebody if it's twins and they're
the grand shill the Force, And yes, I know some
(14:03):
of you don't have any idea what I'm talking about,
but literally the Force, then what would happen? And that
whole idea got scrapped, but people are still talking about it.
And one of the things I've never thought about this before,
but in Revenge of the Sith, there's the scene where
(14:23):
Darth Vader Anakin has been burned, and this is after
he's left. He choked his wife and she disappeared. He
has this fight with Obi Wan left for dead burns.
Emperor comes puts him in suit. The first thing it's
(14:44):
infamous scene Darth Vader comes up, very evocative of Frankenstein,
and he asked the Emperor, where's padme? She's safe? An
Emperor says, it seems and you're angered or Vader you've
killed her? And then Vader's like, no, I that can't be.
(15:05):
I felter, No, it's infamous. You know what I'm talking
about anyway, But this article, apparently there's a popular theory
going around that was talking about like, well, what did
he mean when he was saying, like I felt, what
does that mean? Because she died when he would be
out in surgery. So does that mean he felt her
(15:26):
when he woke up when in which time she was
already dead. So the theory is that he was actually
feeling Luke and Leah and because they were so connected
to her presence, and that's why he never sensed them
because he assumed this was some weird force punishment guilt
thing because he was feeling them then and he thought
(15:49):
it was padme and he just never got over that,
which I thought was really fascinating. The article's really good
if you want to look it up. This is also
from screenrants because it makes it like a because a
lot of people are rightfully bad about how they died.
It's a painful. See she's not really given like that
much space. She just sort of dies. But this makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Personal on the other is like why did she die?
I don't know, I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, And I feel like they've changed that a lot
from like it's supposed to be the Emperor killed her,
like drained her essence, but it's never made clear Like
I always assumed when I was a kid that she
just died.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, this is childbirth that she died in childbirth because
she's there, Well that's.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
The medical Jerid was like, she's also will to live.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, so its heart break was the other conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yes, so I think the Emperor Palpatine thing is the
accepted like he was draining her because so many people
are like she would not. Her last words were literally,
they're still good in him. I know it. I felt
it as.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well as the fact that she just had children.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
She just had kids. So in this article they make
the point like it's she still died in this way.
That was very upsetting. But it's possible that in her
death she departed this protection to Luke and Leab that
(17:17):
allowed them to grow up and to destroy the Emperor,
which I think is a nice a nice take on it.
I don't know. I mean, so many things with Star
Wars are like retcond all the time. Who knows what
the original idea or thought was. That has been one
(17:37):
of consternation from any fans forever of how did Darth
Vader not feel like Luke and Lamb like you can
only that only goes to a certain distance. But he
was around Leah But this, I mean, who knows, who knows?
But I thought that was a nice theory. When I
read it, I was like, Okay, I am glad is
(18:00):
getting more of her due. I'm glad people are revisiting
her character and I love the the thing I was
talking about, like on the things that she did, one
of them was like resisted her husband, fought against her
husband for the beliefs that she held, and I was like,
yes she did. Anyway, if you celebrate May the fourth,
(18:24):
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Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. Welcome to Steff. I
never told you a production of I Hurted you, And
welcome to another edition of A Happy Hour. May Star
Wars edition, Yes, yes it Yes, as always, if you
(00:29):
are drinking or whatever you're choosing to do, do so responsibly.
If we mentioned anything in here, we're not currently sponsored
by it, even Star Wars, so believe it or that
missed opportunities, missed opportunities. Samantha, are you sipping on anything?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yes, bubble water?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
What about you?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh well, I am sipping on blue milk. Oh you
found I found some blue milk.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
What's it taste like?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It tastes like vanilla milk, okay, whitely sweet milk.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
There's a splash of remit there.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Put any alcohol in it, so I've had.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
A little bit of rem So for those who don't know,
blue milk is kind of the iconic milk that you
see throughout the series. You see it first in a
New Hope when Lucas drinking it. It's available at the
Disney theme parks, where it's not milk. Actually, but this,
from what I've read, is the first time you've ever
been able to buy it in grocery stores. It's limited
(01:37):
time promotion, and I couldn't find it anywhere, and I
was like, oh no, and yes I am a sucker.
I can hear all of you rolling your eyes, and
that's fair. But I was like, blue milk, I've got
to get it. I also got Yeah, I got I
got some Star Wars hot sauce too.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But what is that? What is that?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well, I haven't gotten it yet, but it has ghost
pet for it. It's gonna kick. I can't wait. It's
got Darth Vader's helmet on it, and I personally love
I think I might write a fan fiction about this,
because I'm deciding what my fan fiction will be that
I post on Star Wars Day, May the fourth, okay,
And I think there could be a fun opportunity of
(02:15):
Darth Vader realizing how much merchandise has his face on it. Ah,
because it's just his helmet. Yeah, I think there's a
lot you'd be angry about.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
But I think he's upset.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I think he'll be.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Because he didn't capitalize on it.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I think he'll be upset because they're not respecting him.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
How dare you make me a bubblehead type.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Or he's like a waffle iron. There's yes tissue paper
like it's true, so there's a lot. I think something
like dot toy, a dog toy. Yeah, I got one.
It's pas.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
She loves yes, takes the cape and just sling.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I think this is great. I think this is a
good idea. I think this is what I'm going to
go with because I wanted something kind of lighter for
this one. But anyway, I couldn't find the blue milk.
And my good friend friend of the show, Katie found
it for me. Of course, she cured it for me,
brought it. We tried it this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
She's a wizard. Yes, she finds things.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
She finds the thing I did. I was like, I
knew she would be the one, and I said, can
you please keep an eye out? And like a day later,
she said, I found it And there was even a
website you could go on and like search it out,
and it wasn't showing up on anywhere near me, but
she found it. Anyway, She and I and another friend
(03:43):
tried it this weekend and we tried it with a
bunch of different things, and we made up a bunch
of different drinks. So it's been fun. It's been fun.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I still a Kurt's thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Well. The other funny part of it is somehow my
friend got I won't say co worse, but basically a
sweet shop owner talked her into buying banana frum and
we've been trying to we've been trying to use this
and so we were trying to come up with drinks
with that. I yeah, I'm like a one and done
(04:15):
with this.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh yeah, she told me about this. She's like, I
don't even to bring it to you because you can
make cocktails. Like I don't know if I can save that.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes, because she texted me and she was asking me, like,
what can I do with this? And I said, I
don't know. That's the first I've heard of this. But anyway,
it is very nice. But yes, it is a one
and done for me. But I'm happy I found it.
And I've seen a lot of people experimenting with it,
like making pancakes with it and stuff like that. So
(04:44):
that's cool. For today, Yes, we are talking about Star Wars,
and I love how many people have been contacting me
about my thoughts on the prequel trilogy because the Phantom
Menace is going to be back in theaters. I also
have a fun project on Savor other podcasts we do
(05:04):
where we're talking about popcorn buckets, and there's very elaborate
popcorn buckets for Star Wars. I have to say, I
didn't realize, and it's one of those things where I'm
kind of stressed out because I sort of just planning
on like watching Star Wars and eating food Star Wars
and food and drinking Star Wars seem drinks. But I'm
(05:26):
happy people want to hang out. I'm glad. I'm glad
people are celebrating it. But I don't know what I'm
gonna do yet. However, So today I did want to
talk about something. This is actually an article I found
a couple of months ago, and it's called eleven things
we Know about George Lucas's unused Star Wars sequel chilogy scripts.
And this is from screen Rants by Liz Declin. This
(05:48):
has been circulating around for a while, like these ideas have.
I want to say at the front that this doesn't
necessarily I don't want this to sound like I'm saying
equal trilogy sexist would have been better. I think that
in a very strange way that I wasn't anticipating the
(06:08):
Disney ones are much sadder than whats, but I didn't
want to go over it just because it does. It
did make me kind of sad because I was like, oh,
that would have been so much nicer, Like that's like
a happier ending.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I mean, I feel like there's a flip of times
where we'll get things that are all happy endings and
then they're like, no, now we have to twist it.
Everything has to be really really sad. And it's just
like a genre bending where they're like, all right, we're
gonna switch it up now, and if one person does it,
everybody's got yep, we gotta do that too.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I think you're right, And I know I've talked about
this before, but I'm honestly fascinated with this thing that
I've seen happen in a lot of franchises where somebody
who grew up watching like the original trilogy in this case,
loved it, they get the chance to direct one and
they make it so much sadder, and it's usually like
(07:04):
the people from the original trilogy have given up. I
was like, it's like it's like you get older and
you're like, I'm done with this optimism.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Everything is awful. I'm in pain for are you?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yes, it's fascinating to me. Like Star Wars is not
the only thing. I have a lot of examples of
people franchises where that has happened. So I just wanted
to go over some of the big ones that the
big points in this article that I was like, ah,
and a lot of them, if you're like this not feminism,
a lot of them are about Leyah. Oh bumps me
(07:39):
out because you know, I love Leiah. No, But originally
Leia was going to be the main character of the
sequel trilogy. She was going to be revealed as the
Chosen One, which, if you don't know, this is a
(07:59):
very convoluted and controversial and much argued idea in Star
Wars about who's a Chosen One. Usually it's either you
think it was Anakin Darth Vader or you think it
was Luke. In the sequel trilogy, it would have been
really revealed to be Leyah. It's so cool, Oh my gosh.
(08:20):
The Chosen One is supposed to bring balance to the
force and the like. The whole idea why people get
so like, why they like to fight about it is
people like to fight about what balance means because Luke
is sort of your light side, darth Vader's sort of
your dark side, so she I think this is such
a cool idea, like if it had been revealed, and
(08:42):
also because Leah understandably has a lot of hang ups
around the Force. She's afraid of it, She's afraid of
what she's seen it do, She's afraid of darth Vader.
She doesn't like darth Vader, like accepting any of that.
That would have been such a great like emotional arc,
or it could have been if they handled it correctly.
(09:03):
But yeah, like that could have been like a really
cool having her come to terms with that, that would
have been really neat. She was also going to become
the leader of the New Republic, which is also pretty
cool because that would follow in like the footsteps of
(09:25):
Bail Organa, who is her adoptive father, and Padme Amdala,
which is her biological mother. And also she was just
a great leader. But so many things that we saw
in the Disney sequel trilogy didn't work, which is what
I mean is the New Republic didn't work, like the
Jedi Order didn't work. Like these things didn't work, And
(09:47):
I think that. You know, that's an interesting storyline, sad one,
but it is interesting. A lot of things in this
version would have worked better. Like it's not like it
would have been easy, but her New Republic would have
succeeded as opposed to the New Republican the sequel trilogy,
which kind of collapsed pretty soon. I guess I should
(10:10):
say spoiler alert, but I feel like people know about
this stuff. Ten years is the rule. Twenty nineteen was
the Rise of Skywalker. Well, sorry, uh, another thing, and
(10:36):
I just have to fit this in here because like Skywalker's,
like my fave, his Jedi Temple would never have fallen apart.
He would have made some changes and it would have
and it would It would have had trouble, but it
would have worked out. It would have been destroyed also
very quickly. Also, that would have been nice. That would
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have been nice. The main and was gonna be Darth Maul,
who was introduced in the Phantom Menace, and you can
see hints of that and a lot of the like
the Solo movie and in some of the animated stuff
that he was meant to have a much bigger role.
This also entails that his apprentice, who was a very
(11:18):
sexualized version of Darth Maule was gonna be in there.
She hasn't shown up yet in Disney Cannon, but I
bet she will. I don't know how people will feel
about it. Yeah, and then more Jedi would have survived.
(11:38):
That would have been nice.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
No murder of children, that would have been lovely.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, the prequels already did that. Why'd we have to
do that again? Yeah? Yes, Sleigh would have been the
leader of this. She would have been a mentor to
a lot of people. And yeah, I just really likes
that she would have been such a vocal point of it. Again, like,
this is ideas that I get why they didn't do them,
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for logistical reasons, technological technological reasons, and also that this
sounding good on paper doesn't mean it would have worked.
We've seen that before, so I want to make that
very clear. But when I was reading, I was like,
oh my gosh, this sounds so much nicer. This sounds
so much nicer. And I did want to also mention
(12:32):
I was reading last night as I want to do
another article. I sort of love the ongoing debates that happen.
The pain of my existence is something I also love.
Both are true about certain things in Star Wars. One
of the big things that we have talked about before
in our prequel episode that we did, but also in
episode where I've talked about Padme, this is the controversy
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around Padme's death and what it meant. There is a
popular it's not really a meme, but there's something pops
circulating around social media right now that's like how we
remember Padme. She died broken heart, and then on the
other side of the chart, it's like everything she did
and she did all this amazing stuff. So I like
that her character is sort of getting some recognition. But
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one of the big things people often talk about is
her death, like did the Emperor cause it? Did she
die of a broken heart? Did Anakin kind of slowly
kill her accidentally via choking so that wasn't accidental, But
did she die from the fallout of that? One of
the things I've never heard this before, but we did
talk about it briefly. There was kind of a scrapped
(13:39):
idea that about the impact of having a force sensitive
child would have on someone who's pregnant. Would they then
like have some temporary force abilities or something like that,
And especially if it's somebody if it's twins and they're
the grand shill the Force, And yes, I know some
(14:03):
of you don't have any idea what I'm talking about,
but literally the Force, then what would happen? And that
whole idea got scrapped, but people are still talking about it.
And one of the things I've never thought about this before,
but in Revenge of the Sith, there's the scene where
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Darth Vader Anakin has been burned, and this is after
he's left. He choked his wife and she disappeared. He
has this fight with Obi Wan left for dead burns.
Emperor comes puts him in suit. The first thing it's
(14:44):
infamous scene Darth Vader comes up, very evocative of Frankenstein,
and he asked the Emperor, where's padme? She's safe? An
Emperor says, it seems and you're angered or Vader you've
killed her? And then Vader's like, no, I that can't be.
(15:05):
I felter, No, it's infamous. You know what I'm talking
about anyway, But this article, apparently there's a popular theory
going around that was talking about like, well, what did
he mean when he was saying, like I felt, what
does that mean? Because she died when he would be
out in surgery. So does that mean he felt her
(15:26):
when he woke up when in which time she was
already dead. So the theory is that he was actually
feeling Luke and Leah and because they were so connected
to her presence, and that's why he never sensed them
because he assumed this was some weird force punishment guilt
thing because he was feeling them then and he thought
(15:49):
it was padme and he just never got over that,
which I thought was really fascinating. The article's really good
if you want to look it up. This is also
from screenrants because it makes it like a because a
lot of people are rightfully bad about how they died.
It's a painful. See she's not really given like that
much space. She just sort of dies. But this makes sense. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Personal on the other is like why did she die?
I don't know, I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, And I feel like they've changed that a lot
from like it's supposed to be the Emperor killed her,
like drained her essence, but it's never made clear Like
I always assumed when I was a kid that she
just died.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, this is childbirth that she died in childbirth because
she's there, Well that's.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
The medical Jerid was like, she's also will to live.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, so its heart break was the other conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yes, so I think the Emperor Palpatine thing is the
accepted like he was draining her because so many people
are like she would not. Her last words were literally,
they're still good in him. I know it. I felt
it as.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well as the fact that she just had children.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
She just had kids. So in this article they make
the point like it's she still died in this way.
That was very upsetting. But it's possible that in her
death she departed this protection to Luke and Leab that
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allowed them to grow up and to destroy the Emperor,
which I think is a nice a nice take on it.
I don't know. I mean, so many things with Star
Wars are like retcond all the time. Who knows what
the original idea or thought was. That has been one
(17:37):
of consternation from any fans forever of how did Darth
Vader not feel like Luke and Lamb like you can
only that only goes to a certain distance. But he
was around Leah But this, I mean, who knows, who knows?
But I thought that was a nice theory. When I
read it, I was like, Okay, I am glad is
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getting more of her due. I'm glad people are revisiting
her character and I love the the thing I was
talking about, like on the things that she did, one
of them was like resisted her husband, fought against her
husband for the beliefs that she held, and I was like,
yes she did. Anyway, if you celebrate May the fourth,
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