November 22, 2021 • 10 mins
Anney and Samantha dig into the numbers, research and surrounding issues around the gender wage gap for Native American and Indigenous women.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is any and Samantha, I do welcome to stuff.
I've never told your production. I heart radio. All right, Annie,
I know you and I talked a little bit about this,
and I have to ask, did I ever send you
or did you see the TikTok video apparently of kind
(00:29):
of like an infomercial that happened in Germany. Uh, I
have not seen it. You told me about it briefly.
It so TikTok user named Teresa Marco actually found this
ad and posted it up and was like what is this?
Essentially it was like huh and it is a TV
(00:51):
ad that went through in Germany in twenty I think, um.
And it's a picture of a little girl on the
port steps with a little Teddy bear and the German
narrator warns about the access the lack of access to
nutritious foods in the US and how costly all of
(01:11):
these problematic things that could happen for health it was
for the government, and how Germany needs to help and
rise like what is happening? What is happening? And apparently
it was a satirical video from a campaign called Share
Our Strength and it was not actually to raise money,
but it was more of to raise awareness of the
(01:33):
fact that America has a huge issue with food scarcity
and how though it I guess from the outside, everybody
pretends like the US is okay, and though we've been
louder and louder, and I say, we a lot of
us who have seen some of the things that are
happening in the background, and how the wage gap, the
economic gap is so vast that, yeah, there is a
(01:56):
growing number of those who are having a lack of
food as if we are a third world country. So
I found it fascinating. I needed to tell you, and
I guess the listeners and if you all have more information,
this was a little tidbit that I've gotten about this
campaign in general. Um, we would love to hear from y'all.
But I thought that was really fascinating, and also I
(02:19):
wanted you to react. I'm gonna have to send you
this video anyway soon, but I wanted uh to kind
of have a discussion about this kind of And again,
this was five years ago, so it's not recent, but
this kind of information being out there, and how honestly
it's kind of spot on, right, Yeah, And I know
(02:39):
that I've seen pieces like that over the year, some
of them satiring, some of them not satire. But it
is always like they always go for the shock factor
because most people do think like, oh, I mean and
you know, most people being the people who are fortunate
enough to not have to deal with us or don't
(03:00):
see it for whatever reason, but they always go for
that shock fight trips like this is in your backyards
the United States. And honestly, this leads to the reason
we're doing today's Monday Mini uh and just to go
ahead and put a time stamp. Today is November of
(03:23):
two thousand twenty one, and we want to talk a
little bit about the pay gap, but we wanted to
talk specifically how that has impacted the Indigenous community. And
we've had past episodes talking about the devastating pay gap
when it comes to gender, race, and overall economic status.
But again, we wanted to do a little bit of
(03:43):
a deeper look at what is happening with the gender
pay gap when it comes to Native and Indigenous women,
and y'all, it's been talked about, it's been a thing
that's been around. I've seen articles that went dated back
to two thousand two, two thousand, fifteen thousand, sixteen, two thousand, nineteen,
and these numbers are not surprising, but it again is
something we will want to think about, and we think
(04:04):
it's important to recognize and talk about more often. To
once against shedow light about is not It's not a
small thing. And though women are have been overall impacted,
some other communities have been impacted even more so before
the pandemic. And Native and Indigenous women in the US
we're already making significantly less than anyone else. In fact,
(04:26):
in twenty nineteen, the research showed that Native women were
making fifty nine point seven cents for every dollar a
white man makes. That's a forty three difference, but the
gap can be as large as fifty three point five
across the different Native communities. It would take an additional
nine months for Native women to earn as much as
(04:46):
their white male colleagues, and that would be for twenty
twenty alone, right, And the numbers haven't gotten any better
in the last two years. From what we know. During
the pandemic, Native women have continued to be on the
front line as essential workers. Um that three out of
ten Native women were working on as essential workers at
this point in time, and yes, most of These jobs
(05:08):
are typically the high stress, critically important positions, but are
often most likely the lower paying jobs, such as being
in healthcare or administrative services. Right and when we look
at the overall risk for the health of these workers,
many times we see even less healthcare coverage or any
real assistance financially, emotionally, are physically and for the families
(05:29):
of these Native women, they provide at least of the
family's financial support. According to a recent report from the
National Women's Law Center, in twenty nineteen, quote, nearly eighteen
percent of Native American women and twenty one percent of
Native American children lived in poverty, and not surprisingly, the
pandemic has increased the hardships extensively due to continue to
(05:50):
do as sub jobs and overall unstable economy, and within
these numbers, at least twenty one five of Native women
aged sixty five and older will likely be pushed into
poverty as well. And to add to the continued stress,
(06:17):
many of the Native communities have been hit harder and
hardest by the pandemic. The virus has spread quote among
Native Americans at a rate of three point five times
the rate of white non Hispanic people, and again had
an overall higher risk of having serious complications before COVID,
so most likely will be at a high risk of
(06:37):
being hospitalized or death. Yeah, and there's so much we
need to do and change for this continued mishandling and
unequal system of wealth. And one of these things include
getting exact numbers and data to transparently see what is
happening and why we're leaving so many communities behind defend
for themselves in a losing situation. According to NWLC, these
(07:00):
A research economic data for Native American women are very
limited and makes it difficult to see the whole picture
when it comes to unemployment rates and overall job statistics.
So we've talked about this many times and we'll continue
to talk about it. And I want to credit the
Native workers who have been getting this information as we've
gotten it. But the fact that we need a spotlight
(07:22):
and give more money and get more research and get
a lot more understanding about what is happening in Native
communities and how they have been so harshly impacted by
this gender pay gap which affects this community even more
so than others. And I know we've harped on it
a lot, but until we can find to make equity happen.
(07:44):
No one is gonna be okay, it's gonna harm everyone.
I'm just gonna put that out there. And and though
again we've hit some giant snags when it comes to
the Equal Pay Act as well as a Paycheck Fairness Act,
which by the way, field in Congress earlier this year,
there is some positives coming out and including the fact
the Native American communities make up one of the highest
(08:05):
rated vaccinated communities in the US. They're not playing, they know,
and I'm so glad to hear that because I'm concerned
for other communities, just saying I'm gonna ruled Georgia here.
And with the recent passing of the Infrastructure Bill, we
(08:27):
should see more assistance for the Native communities and perhaps
we'll be able to see some change because they have
been allotted I think, uh several billion, I don't know
if it's like one point five billion in that bill
to help their communities through several different things. And again,
as we've talked about before, seeing representation within Congress makes
(08:50):
a giant difference, including the fact that Secretary that Holland
is there and stepping up and Representative Shrys Davis, who
has been there for a minute, could continue to work
to being a voice for those communities and seeking to
make change in all of these complicated situations, which doesn't
necessarily have to be this complicated, but you know, um, so, yeah,
(09:12):
we are seeing some change and let's cross our fingers
as this bill has come into being signed recently and
maybe that that will make an impact. Of course, we
do want to do a breakdown of this bill because
as good as it is, there's a lot of things
that makes you raise your eyebrow and and we know
the amount of negotiations that it had to take to
(09:35):
even get here and means a loss of a lot
of other good things that would have been beneficial for
this country. But what as so, let's hope, let's hope
that this let's make a giant change. Yes, yes, and
that's definitely something um we will come back and discuss
as something we want to keep in an eye on.
It's always listeners. If you think there's something we should
(09:57):
focus on in in these segments, or if there are
any resources you want to shout out, please I'll let
us know. You can Emails at Stuff Media Mom, stuff
at i heeart Media dot com. You can find us
on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast or on Instagram and
Stuff I've Never Told You. Thanks It's always far super
producer Christina, thank you and thanks to you for listening
Stuff I Never Told you This production of iHeart Radio
for more podcast In My Heart Radio is that I
(10:19):
Hear Radio, app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to
your favorite shows
Hey, this is any and Samantha, I do welcome to stuff.
I've never told your production. I heart radio. All right, Annie,
I know you and I talked a little bit about this,
and I have to ask, did I ever send you
or did you see the TikTok video apparently of kind
(00:29):
of like an infomercial that happened in Germany. Uh, I
have not seen it. You told me about it briefly.
It so TikTok user named Teresa Marco actually found this
ad and posted it up and was like what is this?
Essentially it was like huh and it is a TV
(00:51):
ad that went through in Germany in twenty I think, um.
And it's a picture of a little girl on the
port steps with a little Teddy bear and the German
narrator warns about the access the lack of access to
nutritious foods in the US and how costly all of
(01:11):
these problematic things that could happen for health it was
for the government, and how Germany needs to help and
rise like what is happening? What is happening? And apparently
it was a satirical video from a campaign called Share
Our Strength and it was not actually to raise money,
but it was more of to raise awareness of the
(01:33):
fact that America has a huge issue with food scarcity
and how though it I guess from the outside, everybody
pretends like the US is okay, and though we've been
louder and louder, and I say, we a lot of
us who have seen some of the things that are
happening in the background, and how the wage gap, the
economic gap is so vast that, yeah, there is a
(01:56):
growing number of those who are having a lack of
food as if we are a third world country. So
I found it fascinating. I needed to tell you, and
I guess the listeners and if you all have more information,
this was a little tidbit that I've gotten about this
campaign in general. Um, we would love to hear from y'all.
But I thought that was really fascinating, and also I
(02:19):
wanted you to react. I'm gonna have to send you
this video anyway soon, but I wanted uh to kind
of have a discussion about this kind of And again,
this was five years ago, so it's not recent, but
this kind of information being out there, and how honestly
it's kind of spot on, right, Yeah, And I know
(02:39):
that I've seen pieces like that over the year, some
of them satiring, some of them not satire. But it
is always like they always go for the shock factor
because most people do think like, oh, I mean and
you know, most people being the people who are fortunate
enough to not have to deal with us or don't
(03:00):
see it for whatever reason, but they always go for
that shock fight trips like this is in your backyards
the United States. And honestly, this leads to the reason
we're doing today's Monday Mini uh and just to go
ahead and put a time stamp. Today is November of
(03:23):
two thousand twenty one, and we want to talk a
little bit about the pay gap, but we wanted to
talk specifically how that has impacted the Indigenous community. And
we've had past episodes talking about the devastating pay gap
when it comes to gender, race, and overall economic status.
But again, we wanted to do a little bit of
(03:43):
a deeper look at what is happening with the gender
pay gap when it comes to Native and Indigenous women,
and y'all, it's been talked about, it's been a thing
that's been around. I've seen articles that went dated back
to two thousand two, two thousand, fifteen thousand, sixteen, two thousand, nineteen,
and these numbers are not surprising, but it again is
something we will want to think about, and we think
(04:04):
it's important to recognize and talk about more often. To
once against shedow light about is not It's not a
small thing. And though women are have been overall impacted,
some other communities have been impacted even more so before
the pandemic. And Native and Indigenous women in the US
we're already making significantly less than anyone else. In fact,
(04:26):
in twenty nineteen, the research showed that Native women were
making fifty nine point seven cents for every dollar a
white man makes. That's a forty three difference, but the
gap can be as large as fifty three point five
across the different Native communities. It would take an additional
nine months for Native women to earn as much as
(04:46):
their white male colleagues, and that would be for twenty
twenty alone, right, And the numbers haven't gotten any better
in the last two years. From what we know. During
the pandemic, Native women have continued to be on the
front line as essential workers. Um that three out of
ten Native women were working on as essential workers at
this point in time, and yes, most of These jobs
(05:08):
are typically the high stress, critically important positions, but are
often most likely the lower paying jobs, such as being
in healthcare or administrative services. Right and when we look
at the overall risk for the health of these workers,
many times we see even less healthcare coverage or any
real assistance financially, emotionally, are physically and for the families
(05:29):
of these Native women, they provide at least of the
family's financial support. According to a recent report from the
National Women's Law Center, in twenty nineteen, quote, nearly eighteen
percent of Native American women and twenty one percent of
Native American children lived in poverty, and not surprisingly, the
pandemic has increased the hardships extensively due to continue to
(05:50):
do as sub jobs and overall unstable economy, and within
these numbers, at least twenty one five of Native women
aged sixty five and older will likely be pushed into
poverty as well. And to add to the continued stress,
(06:17):
many of the Native communities have been hit harder and
hardest by the pandemic. The virus has spread quote among
Native Americans at a rate of three point five times
the rate of white non Hispanic people, and again had
an overall higher risk of having serious complications before COVID,
so most likely will be at a high risk of
(06:37):
being hospitalized or death. Yeah, and there's so much we
need to do and change for this continued mishandling and
unequal system of wealth. And one of these things include
getting exact numbers and data to transparently see what is
happening and why we're leaving so many communities behind defend
for themselves in a losing situation. According to NWLC, these
(07:00):
A research economic data for Native American women are very
limited and makes it difficult to see the whole picture
when it comes to unemployment rates and overall job statistics.
So we've talked about this many times and we'll continue
to talk about it. And I want to credit the
Native workers who have been getting this information as we've
gotten it. But the fact that we need a spotlight
(07:22):
and give more money and get more research and get
a lot more understanding about what is happening in Native
communities and how they have been so harshly impacted by
this gender pay gap which affects this community even more
so than others. And I know we've harped on it
a lot, but until we can find to make equity happen.
(07:44):
No one is gonna be okay, it's gonna harm everyone.
I'm just gonna put that out there. And and though
again we've hit some giant snags when it comes to
the Equal Pay Act as well as a Paycheck Fairness Act,
which by the way, field in Congress earlier this year,
there is some positives coming out and including the fact
the Native American communities make up one of the highest
(08:05):
rated vaccinated communities in the US. They're not playing, they know,
and I'm so glad to hear that because I'm concerned
for other communities, just saying I'm gonna ruled Georgia here.
And with the recent passing of the Infrastructure Bill, we
(08:27):
should see more assistance for the Native communities and perhaps
we'll be able to see some change because they have
been allotted I think, uh several billion, I don't know
if it's like one point five billion in that bill
to help their communities through several different things. And again,
as we've talked about before, seeing representation within Congress makes
(08:50):
a giant difference, including the fact that Secretary that Holland
is there and stepping up and Representative Shrys Davis, who
has been there for a minute, could continue to work
to being a voice for those communities and seeking to
make change in all of these complicated situations, which doesn't
necessarily have to be this complicated, but you know, um, so, yeah,
(09:12):
we are seeing some change and let's cross our fingers
as this bill has come into being signed recently and
maybe that that will make an impact. Of course, we
do want to do a breakdown of this bill because
as good as it is, there's a lot of things
that makes you raise your eyebrow and and we know
the amount of negotiations that it had to take to
(09:35):
even get here and means a loss of a lot
of other good things that would have been beneficial for
this country. But what as so, let's hope, let's hope
that this let's make a giant change. Yes, yes, and
that's definitely something um we will come back and discuss
as something we want to keep in an eye on.
It's always listeners. If you think there's something we should
(09:57):
focus on in in these segments, or if there are
any resources you want to shout out, please I'll let
us know. You can Emails at Stuff Media Mom, stuff
at i heeart Media dot com. You can find us
on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast or on Instagram and
Stuff I've Never Told You. Thanks It's always far super
producer Christina, thank you and thanks to you for listening
Stuff I Never Told you This production of iHeart Radio
for more podcast In My Heart Radio is that I
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