Congress 101

It's no secret that voters distrust Washington, D.C. In numerous polls, citizens of every political overwhelmingly disapprove of Congress. But why? What's the source of this distrust and, perhaps most importantly, is there something Congress doesn't want you to know?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups, histories real
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listeners that makes this stuff. They don't want you to know.
If you're listening to this the day it comes out,
then we hope you had a happy Thanksgiving. Wait, if
you're listening to this the day it comes out and
you celebrate Thanksgiving, we hope you had a good one.
That's correct. If it was just Thursday, we hope that
worked out. Clear. Do you guys, have you ever this

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is just a question. Sure, have you guys ever deep
fried a turkey for Thanksgiving? And do you celebrate Thanksgiving?
I've been witnessed to send turkey deep frying. Yes, it
was good. I mean, you know, it's a fried thing.
I could you know, my god, it wasn't extra moist,
just pretty boist. Oh head word. You have to be

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careful when in deep fry turkey, right, Yes, there's a
there's a certain set of procedures and the tastiness of
the turkey all inges on on that, and you don't
want to throw a frozen turkey into oil that is
extremely hot because you will be blind when you know fires. Yeah.
Actually it's funny because you see this thing on my hand. Listeners,

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I'm holding up my right hand for the guys here,
and there is a series of like four or five
puncture wound looking things on the side between my index
finger my thumb, and it looks like a bite, right, yeah,
but it's not right, No, it's it's actually from trying
to fry a turkey cutlet because it's a grease bite.

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It's a grease bite by the grease. Speaking of grease, Yes,
you know what they say about the squeaky wheel, right,
it gets the grease. I put the agrease on its skin.
Uh and or else it gets the vote. Again. Yes,
today we are talking about something that correlates to our

(02:10):
most recent video. Congress. We're talking about Congress today, ladies
and gentlemen. Uh So, the first question? First things first,
why why do we why do we have a Congress?
I guess I can take this onet the mind. Um So,
the United States federal government, there being real proper here
was purposely separated in three distinct bodies entities, if you will, legislative, executive,

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and judicial. This is all kind of basic civics class stuff.
Under this arrangement, each branch was given the ability to
check and balance the other, so it's sort of like
one hand watching the other, etcetera, so that no branch
becomes more powerful than the other, which is called separation
of powers um and it's the basis of the entire
American system of government. Also applies in all cases except

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for one, which is the presidential pardon. Yeah, the separation
of powers is extremely important when looking at how the
United States functions, how it was formed, and how it
was formed and how it functions, and the that that
whole idea of the presidential pardon being one of the
only things that is an exception to these three powers

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working together to try and make sure nobody has too
much of it. That is a unilateral decision the president
can make of for his own reasons. Yes, and the
only situation. There have been some controversial ones. Uh I.
You may have heard a couple of times, at least
recently with the past three or four presidencies. People who
are maybe acquaintances or friends, may even family who have

(03:40):
been pardoned from not to mention that turkey that he pardoned.
I mean, let's come full circles every years. I wonder
is it the same turkey. I think it's just a
stand in for all turkeys, you know. That might be it.
That might be it. But there is one other thing
that is kind of in a nebulous world outside of

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these these three powers working together, and that is the
executive order, which interestingly is it's almost like a suggestion
to the other uh powers, right to the other three
that the Executive Office can say, hey, we we would
like this to happen. But an executive order cannot be
given to the actual citizens of the United States, like uh,

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President Barack Obama couldn't say X, and then each citizens
within a state have to do that or each state
has to do that. Yeah, it can and also cannot
be UM cannot be directed at Congress or at the
Supreme Court. So you can't say sign an executive order
saying that now there will be eleven and a half

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justices and one of them will just do twenty hours
a week. Yeah, so it's given. Sorry, just to clarify,
it's given to an agency, right right. It's like the
E P A, the D O T S something like
that exactly. Uh. And the the reason that we have
this complex sort of rock paper scissors system is to
enforce a a kind of check and balanced idea. And

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what that means, which every again, as Noll said earlier,
this kind of early civics stuff, it means it is
meant to keep one branch from controlling everything. Uh. However,
you know, I know there are a lot of people
in the audience will say, well, yeah, that's good. That's
a part of the beauty of our democracy. Funny story,

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you guys. Technically, the US is not really a democracy,
is not a direct democracy. A democracy originally is a
form of government where people decide policy matters directly. So
every time the US would make a decision, all all
three hundred what thirty plus million of US, we get

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together and say, well, you know, I guess um, we
got this bill here about standardizing the size for straws,
and uh, I feel like they should be a democracy
like that, or a pure democracy. Even some people call
it a dramatic direct democracy. That may be something that
you remember hearing about when the Occupy Wall Street protests

(06:19):
were happening, and you would actually have groups of people
who would make proclamations, but they would take turns. Did
you guys ever go down to one of those. It
was fascinating to see it working at least somewhat working
on principle, But I cannot imagine that functioning on, you know,

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with three hundreds something million people trying to do this right. Yeah,
there's uh. And that's what the founding fathers of the
US thought as well. But then if we're not a
true democracy, what kind of government are we? Who is
this tiny scamp? Well, I'll never mind. I'll answer your question, lad.
The US is technically speaking a wee public because what

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we do is we vote or other people to go
and be our representatives, right to have our opinions. So
we'll say, okay, this person represents a trapload of people
in for months. Yeah, but they're all kind of the same, right,
so it makes sense that one person would represent them. Sure. Yes, Uh,

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if you live in the US and you vote, you're
only really voting for that representative on and we talked
about how you'd have to vote for every decision of policy.
The founding fathers thought that democracy direct democracy was a
terrible idea. Instability, crime, dogs and cats sleeping together, revolutions,
active property. That is one of the biggest problems that

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could happen. I mean, especially if gosh, it's so horrible
to even think about, but the disparities in levels of
education and understanding throughout humans, I mean, mob rule is terrifying. No,
I think we take for granted that that we have
not really had to experience too much of that. Yeah, no,
you're right, we we really do. I don't think I've

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experienced mob rule in any situation. I mean, there's there's
like a going to a concert, for example, where you
can let this picture going to a concert and get
swept up in a mosh pit. You're not into it
at all, but you just you kind of have to
just go limp and go along for the right. That's
probably a simple version of what mob ruled. And then yeah,
that's good, that's good. And then there's reddit, oh yeah,

(08:32):
shots fired. Yeah, that's more of circle jerk actions. So
we could say, if we had an adjective, we could
call some different kind of democracy, maybe a representative democracy,
because we elect representatives and those are the people that
we're going to talk about today. Interestingly enough, though, It
could also be called a constitutional democracy because the Supreme Court,

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according to the Constitution, appointed for life, not elected, never fired,
say whatever they want, and it's a law that's a
little weird. I mean, history is going to look back
on that as at the very best to compromise. So,
uh so, how did this all work out? These people

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that we you know today? Democracy is often used to
describe a government that gets its power from the people
and is accountable to those people when it comes to
use of the power. And if that's the thing, right,
if the folks that we're all sending to washing each election,
our are our conduit to the hallowed halls of power,

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how's it working out? How do people feel about Congress? Well,
then people hate them, that's true. Here's a good stat
I love this with every ounce of my being. Um So.
According to five thirty eight dot com in public policy polling,
in Congress held a staggering approval rating. Now, if you're

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not into polls, that might just kind of roll right
off you. What does that even mean? Here are some
things with a higher rating. One jar jar banks, two
dog poop, three traffic jams, four cockroaches, five completely unfair
in my opinion Brussels Sprouts. I love Brussels, huge fan

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of Brussels Sprouts and six Nickelback. And you know, I'm
almost tired of ragging on Nickelback. I think it's it's gotten.
They've really been through a lot. They really have. Really,
guys really didn't No one's making me listen to their music.
Just look at this photograph. Look how sad the singer
of nickel Back looks. I know, I feel like Sarah
mclachman needs they come in on the side of that photograph.

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I was at a Halloween party in two thousand thirteen
and there was a house mix of music that was
going on, and there was a tiny little computer in
one of the corners, uh in this living room area
that was playing the mix, and Chandler Are, a co worker,
would go over and throw a Nickelback song in the mix,
and the owner of the house got so angry, and

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not in a jokingly like funny, ha ha, that's funny
you're doing that. He was so pissed because he did
it four or five times after the dude, I've never
seen someone so upset about some music. And again, this
guy probably prefers Nickelback to yeah, you know. And also
it's strange because a lot of people don't participate in voting. Uh,

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every four years, people will turn out to vote for
the president. However that is not that's not playing the
game to the full set of rules. Right. You're supposed
to vote for the person who is supposed to represent you.
However a lot of people don't do that, so with it,

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so there is a little bit of irony in there.
You know, would would people vote for Brussels sprouts? I
think I would. I think they're tasty, especially if you
pair them with a little honey honey preserves. So we'd
like to talk about a little bit today is uh,
why people often don't participate or feel like it's useless

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to vote, and why why Congress is so very very unpopular.
So what is it? Guys? What don't people like about Congress?
You're right, it is crazy that that that is our
real power as a citizen at three citizens of the
United States right here, and you're listening. If your sitisant,
I mean, that is our at least on paper, that

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is our power. It's a very important right on paper.
Absolutely well. One of the reasons that people don't vote
and for a while there, I didn't vote is apathy
because it feels like it doesn't matter, especially if you
live in an area the way votes are counted, if
you live in an area that is predominantly one way

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or the other way because we have a two party system,
or if it's mander Yeah, yeah, jerrymandering is a huge issue.
It honestly doesn't matter what my opinion is if I
don't fall in with the majority. I mean, we live
here in Atlanta, which by all accounts is, you know,
something of a cultural hub. There's a lot of you know,
film activity that goes on here, a lot of music,
a lot of interesting culture. But it is a sliver

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of the overall, you know, makeup of of Georgia, and
we can vote to we're blue in the face, and
it's not really gonna keep things from turning red. Well yeah, well,
but that again, it doesn't really matter what side drawing,
because you could say the same thing about certain areas
in New York, right. I mean, it's just like and
from the opposite direction, of course. But I think that

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for me, at least in my experience, and for a
lot of people, I know, that feeling of apathy that
you can't actually do anything in it. It's a meaningless
power not personally agree that. That is definitely a factor. Yeah,
and then another thing I think that a lot of
people don't like about Congress, if we're talking about the
average voter, is that here's a disconnected it doesn't seem representative,

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you know, like the average age. Remember the House of
Representatives is around fifty seven. And for the vast majority
of our listeners, many members of the House of Representatives
and Congress are going to be, uh, financially in a
much different place. Was that that you mentioned about the
the income of a member of Congress. Yes, they're They're

(14:32):
put in the fifth percentile, I believe, of all incomes
inside the United States. And that's just what they get
paid for being a member of Congress and for or
you know, in the Senate in particular. Isn't that about
what the president makes? I think the president makes about
four thousand year because I just have this memory if

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when from when I was a kid and my mom
told me how much politicians made, and I remember thinking
that doesn't seem much, you know, like I would think
they'd be jillionaires. Well turns out well, and the thing
is that there are a lot of benefits. Benefits got
a lot of opportunities to become Yeah, especially then if
you're on the board of a couple of things, you know.

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I mean there's I believe there's certain restrictions on some
of that, but as we're going to find out a
little later, there are ways around it, which I think
brings us to another point about why that sort of
related to the apathy about why people are distrustful of
Congress is there's I think a pretty palpable sense that
these folks aren't necessarily in it for the greater good.

(15:38):
They're in it for their quote unquote constituents, and they're
in it for their special interests, you know, and kind
of like for you know, to um propel their financial
you know, interests, or their you know, or their career,
their quest for power, their consultancy. So the yeah, this
this brings us to some disquiet things, Right, who are

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the true constituents. One thing that we've joked about on
this show before is you know how race car drivers
wear sponsorship patches. That would be great if elected representatives
had to wear those two you know, I remember this, Yeah,
that's a great idea. I'm I am less and less
jovial about it as we go on, because it seems

(16:23):
like a better and better idea, just fantastic, you know. Well, yeah,
but the way a just this is my frame of reference.
A UFC fighter or an m M A fighter has
a big banner that has all their things on it.
If they when they go and make a speech, you
just had to be behind them at all times. Yeah,
what's wrong about that? They have to really go fine
with the print on something. So maybe just make a

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bigger banner, right, So, yeah, maybe just make a bigger banner.
Maybe that's the problem with this country, right, ladies. And
you can create jobs doing that. I'm just saying that's true.
I was just thinking about graphic designers who would be
working on that. Here's the thing though, with Congress. A
lot of the rank and file voters amongst uh, you know,

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that's a group that we put ourselves amongst. A lot
of the rank and file voters see Congress as somewhat
above the law. And this came to head with an
insider trading scandal. For a long time, insider trading was
just fine with Congress. Well, yeah, when you could keep
it quiet and nobody's really talking about it. The with

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the nature of lobbying, you've always got hand holding, right,
and negotiations going on between the congressional body, and it's
just a hot tip, right, maybe I got a hot tip.
But but it becomes a problem then because when we're
talking about constituencies, then are they really looking after the
people they represent? Are they're looking after the people the

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hand that is giving them some money. And that's how
a lot of unfortunately, that's how a lot of voters
see it. Without knowing every single congress person, I can't
I say, I can't really speak to it, but it
is a popular and widespread opinion that these representatives or
these elected officials are not representing the people so much

(18:15):
as the powers. And we came. We we saw this
really great thing, the intercept published back in what may
or something this year. UH. You may recall that, you
may recall that a few years ago, UH Congress got
in trouble with insider trading stuff that we were mentioning. However,

(18:38):
H lawyers last summer filed a brief claiming that an
SEC Security Exchanges Commission investigation of insider trading had to
be blocked on principle because lawmakers and their staff are
constitutionally protected from such inquiries given the nature of their work,

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because they are constantly in contact with these lobbying groups.
And remember that thing about checks and balances was also
because insider trading probes would violate the separation of powers
between the legislative and executive branch. It seems so counterintuitive
to me. It just seems like it's a rule to

(19:20):
keep there from having to be any rules. But there
was this thing called the Stock Act in two thousand
twelve that was passed by Congress, and it was it
meant to try and enforce some of these things right,
to stop insider trading. However, at the moment that that
that it actually started being acted upon, was like whoa, whoa, whoa,

(19:43):
whall hold on, guys, we come on, now, come on now,
we're Congress. So I was thinking, instead of doing an
ad today, you guys, could I tell you a horrible,
a horrible joke that I thought I wrote that you
thought you wrote, I'll explain. Okay, knock, knock, who's there? Two? Two? Actually, guys,

(20:08):
it's to whom you son of a I'm sorry, it's
such a terrible joke. Uh, and it has it has
nothing to do with what we're talking about. It's just
a little bit of levity there in place of uh
an ad until we hear back from what was that?
What was that other group called Illumination Global Unlimited. Yeah, yeah,

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like I'd like to refer to them as I gu Yeah,
well we'll talk about it later. I don't want to
talk af air kind of thing. Okay, Yeah, moving on.
Here's where it gets crazy because, as you might have guest,
ladies and gentlemen, Congress is the subject of a lot
of conspiracy theories, some big, some small, some I think

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completely true, and then some that are kind of wild
and then suddenly there or somewhere in between. Yah. And
these are apart from the general stories of corruption that
you'll hear on a micro and macro scale all across
the internet. Oh yeah, we're talking about stuff like JFK.
Ladies and gentleman John F. Kennedy. Uh and the the
How Select Committee on Assassinations, Right, the h s c

(21:20):
A investigated both Kennedy and Martin Luther King. Big deal. Yeah,
And it's something that we've talked about for on numerous episodes,
and it's a fascinating time when those things were when
the House Committee gosh, what is it, the Select Committee

(21:40):
Committee on Assassinations? Okay, yeah, when they were doing their thing,
just because for people who are reading along at the time,
again not me eight three over here, Um, they you're
following along with this news and it just seems like
there is information that or you're not getting all of
the infra nation right, yes, or that it is changing.

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And yeah. So the h s c A actually met
from nineteen seventy six to nine seventy eight, and then
finally in seventy nine issued his final report that concluded
that Kennedy was probably assassinated by the mafia and that
the CIA was lacking in its investigation, right, Yeah, that
the CIA did not actually in assist even in the

(22:27):
limited role they were required to assist in and a
lot of people had the here's the thing. So they
did say that they believed there was a conspiracy to
assassinate John F. Kennedy. They said that they did not
think any anti Castro groups or necessarily internal groups were involved.

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They couldn't find out who Oswald was connected to. And
he's got some very interesting adventures before that. Before that
year when he forms the assassinations. We're traveling, yes, some
very strange traveling, and many people have studied this or
looked at it in either an attempt to prove their
pre existing opinion or in an attempt to find out

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what actually happened. So this is one of the crown jewels.
I would argue of the reason that historically people don't
necessarily trust Congress, regardless of what political stripe you like
to paint yourself with, regardless of your philosophical differences on
the nature of federalism, etcetera. Uh, you know, if you

(23:36):
get the idea that your own government is is shooting
your heroes, yeah, we're going to trust them. Strangely enough, though,
in this instance, this is the House of Representatives saying that, hey,
your government is like may have had a hand in this,
or at least said there was a conspiracy. Right they didn't.
They don't give you anything. Well in the next the
next thing is what I think makes the Congress seem

(24:00):
even less trustworthy, right, Yes, because this the report in
nineteen seventy nine, It's not only consisted of the full report,
but also twelve volumes of appendencies on both assassinations and uh,
and that was published by Congress. I did have one
quick question. I just was wondering if either of you
know how many pages this report was. I'm just always

(24:21):
kind of amazed at how massive some of these official
documents are. And you know, when you think about how
easy it is to kind of slide things in there
when there's that much just absurd overload of information. Interesting
that you say that, Um, they say slide slide in
there because it's a it's about one page, uh simal sided,
so they can slide it underdoors. It's twelve twelve twelve volumes,

(24:47):
and then they had a single volume summary report. So
without getting an exact page count for you, it's, uh,
it's a dictionary, got it. You know, it's huge. Um,
And I would say that in a lot of people
probably didn't read the whole thing, or got someone to
read it for them, or got someone to read them
for them, which is pretty common. There. What I was

(25:09):
gonna finish with with you, however, just to throw this
back in just mentioning that there are there's still a
lot of information that we that exists, that was found
during this House Select Committee on Assassinations that is still
locked away and it will be released if the sitting
president decides that it will be released, and it's this

(25:33):
date that will just continually be pushed back until the
president decides that, hey, it can come out this year.
How does that work? I mean, if it doesn't occur
to a president to even consider it, someone just like
put in front of him and say, hey, how about
this thing. He's like, yeah, you know, let's keep pushing
it all right, Well, what I'm feeling spunky today, Let's
let's let's go ahead and let it out there. I
would say it's a highly calculated decision because you know,

(25:57):
some people know what's included in those documents, and depending
on how it's going to affect things based presidents since
this commission, based on what's going on politically, you know, um, strategically. Yeah,
probably not the best idea to let this album. Same
thing with aliens. Dude, here it is, says Matt Sprain. Yeah.

(26:18):
So it's strange because we we talked a little bit
about this, and without going too far into a JFK
episode or something, Robert Blakely, who was the chief counsel
of the committee, uh changed some of his views and
in a two thousand three interview, he is he strongly
comes against the CIA and says that I think all

(26:41):
of their statements and representations are suspect, and I think
the CIA was obstructing justice. And I'm just gonna read
this quote if I can, and I no longer believe
that we were able to conduct an appropriate investigation of
the agency and its relationship to Oswald. We now know
that the agency withheld from the Warren Commission the CIA

(27:04):
mafia plots they killed Castro. Had the Commission known of
the plots that would have followed a different path of
in its investigation, the agency unilaterally deprived the Commission of
a chance to obtain the full truth, which will now
never be known. Jeez. So I don't want to go
like with the rest of the quote. But Congress was

(27:25):
fighting to Congress is an entity fighting itself, you know,
because when when we talk about these reports and this
secrecy and the secret interpretations of laws and stuff, there
are a lot of people in Congress who are fighting
against it and saying, hey, this is ridiculous. How can

(27:45):
we hold people, um now, how can we hold people
culpable for a thing that is not like they're not
allowed to know about that's a bizarre thing, and it
brings us to one of the last points. So I
want to go on to long uh, mass surveillance, mass surveillance,
because when it's decided that mass surveillance can happen, guess

(28:09):
who makes those decisions? Guys, No, I wish I wish
you was. Well, no, no, I don't who makes who
makes those decisions? I gonna have to let go of
this particular delusion of grandeur. Well, the laws, obviously are
are decided by the Senate and by the well, by

(28:30):
the House of Representatives and then the Senate, And it's
one of those things where these are our representatives deciding
whether or not our stuff is private, truly private or not.
And this gets into a huge conversation about hey, Ben,
what's the future of privacy? Yeah? Are you doing? I mean,

(28:53):
we can't. I think we have several times I feel
about it. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's a strange and horrible
thing to think about how quickly privacy is just not
going to exist very very soon, and how how recent
it was historically. I would say go back to I

(29:15):
think it was wasn't our conversation about the deep Web
where we really got into some of that stuff. That
might be a really good episode to listen to if
you're interested in this. M agreed. I have a question
for you guys. Before we closed this out, we did
have another story about someone in Congress being obsessed with
conspiracy theories, which which we might have to hold for

(29:38):
a later day. There were just a lot of searches
for it. Uh. But I have a question for you guys.
All right, m h would you like to hear a
laundry list of things your congress person won't tell you?
It was up the show? Okay, I found this as
we were as we were going in. All right, so

(29:59):
this is by a couple of former senators in former
House reps. In many cases, lobbyists write the bills. Yes,
we've heard this right, five or ten lobbyists per congress
person for a high profile issue. And then let's see,
most of the staffers on the hill are in their
early to mid twenties. Why is that? I guess that

(30:20):
the people who will work the hours is that interns interns. Yes. Uh.
And then as soon as someone gets to Washington, whether
a Republican or Democrat, their party pulls them into a
retreat and apparently tries their best to brainwash them, like
all progresses built on beating the other party. Yeah, party lines, man,

(30:43):
And you can see that happening and getting increasingly increasingly
more so over the years. And your calls and emails
do matter, probably more than you think. Every one of
them is assigned to a database, and or there's a
database that tracks everyone rather and then when somebody's going
out to vote, they'll ask for that number of how
many people are for it or again it um And

(31:06):
let's see, it's against ethics regulations to make fundraising calls
from a congressional office, so a lot of people go
to another office just down the street. You know, I've seen,
I have seen when we were in d C. Ben,
do you remember seeing all of the other official offices
for congressmen but not officially congressional offices, right, yes, yes.

(31:28):
And it's it's weird because there's so much there's so
much stuff going on that is accepted as traditionally the
rule of thumb, but is not necessarily in an in
an explicit written form in a legal document anyway. Those
are just a few things that I thought were important

(31:49):
to know. I just want to say, I'm just imagining. Okay,
so we already know that a huge amount of time
for any elected official is spent campaigning for the next
time they have to come up for election, right right,
And now I'm just imagining all of all of our
elected officials having to leave the office like they have
to go. It would be like taking a smoke break

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and having to walk, you know, to another building or something.
But every time when an election season comes around, instead
of focusing on what their representatives want or need to
be passed, they're just in the other office doing their thing.
But I guess they can do congressional stuff from that office,
right Yeah. And then they're also it's true, and they're

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also um, they're also members of Congress who are just
busting their humps to make a positive change or to
accurately represent their constituents, by which I mean the people
who voted them into office. And then if you have
a list of those people, we would love to hear it. Well.
I also think it's just it's easy to beat up Congress.

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You're right, it's an easy target. It's an easy target. Also,
it's uh for the right person. It's it's a tremendous
responsibility and it's a tremendous opportunity. But are you what's that?
Are you? Oh? I would never get elected. You know that.
I don't know get elected. I don't know. I know

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would get elected. I don't know if I would get
elected for you. Yeah, I think a lot of people
would vote for just to watch the world burn. See
what you do up there? Man, Yeah, that'll be my
that'll be my slogan. Uh, let's let's wing it right
if you let's happens. I can I can imagine you

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being in a public office. I'm not sure how to
feel about that statement now, No, like not. I think
you're extremely diplomatic, and I think you could actually work
with people. I think you could get your way been.
I think you couldn't you could unite the aisle. You
way too nice. Here's what we do, here's what we do. Okay,
So I'll agree to run for office if one of

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you guys will help me out and run for the
same office in the opposing party. Okay, so we can
still get whatever we want. I'll be I'll be the craziest.
Well know that it doesn't matter who gets elected, man,
we can still keep what we were going to do
and the other ones in the right hand. Either way,
it's like donating to both parties. Okay, alright, that's what

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the Koch brothers do, right, it is I think it
is George. Does George Soros do that? Or just pretty sure?
I don't know what it's I don't know what it's like.
I haven't been in that rarefied air yet. It's like
any bet, right, I mean, you got a bet a
little over here, a little over there. The payoff it's
going to make up the difference, you know. I think
you're on the right track. Yeah, for that air up there.

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You know, I've I've never gambled in like a casino.
I mean, that's good. It's done like I've done Russian roulay,
you know, just a lot. All right. You said you
ran a Russian relay. I did that, ran a Russian
relay and I don't speak Russian. So it was hilarious.
Have been drinky. It was tough. It was tough because
we're gonna get out of here. Nol. You've been kinda

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you've been kind of quiet too. Do you want to
have the final word? Oh? Real quick, you guys already
know this. We say it every time. We'll just cut
past the small talk, Facebook, Twitter, conspiracy stuff. We have
a website stuff they want you to know what it's
where you can see all our podcasts. The last word
goes to you, Mr Brown. I guess I would just
you know, I would encourage people to cut through the

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apathy and try to do some research and figure out
what issues are the are most important to you, and
you know, cast your vote accordingly. Just be part of
the process if you can. I mean, I understand that
it's it seems futile at times, and I feel the
same way. But we you know, if you look at
what's going on in other parts of the world, we

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are very, very lucky to be in a situation where
we even have the guys of any kind of voice.
So take that for what it's worth. Excellent. Well, it's
very optimistic, you know, And that is a pretty good
way to end the episode. Uh, I think I think
we're done. Hey, Matt, one less thing. If somebody has
an idea for an upcoming topic, or they want to

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react to this or let us know where their opinion
of Congress and they don't like all that social media rigamarole. Uh,
where should they send the email? So what you do,
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