November 2, 2023 • 45 mins
No One in Particular raises a fascinating point about the old-school D.A.R.E. program in US schools. Corporations want you to eat more bugs. Beeswax, notyours writes in with a harrowing tale of an escaped federal detainee -- all this and more in this week's Listener Mail.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome back to the show. My name is Met, my
name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
They called me Bed. We're joined as always with our
superproducer Alexis Cod named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you
are you, You are here. That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. Listener Mail segment on
the road. And we have so many great pieces of correspondence.
(00:48):
I know, I know, we all say this pretty often
and it's always true. But this week there's an extraordinary abundance,
an embarrassment of riches. We're going to hear from quite
a few of our fellow conspiracy realists. We're gonna touch
on a lot of a lot of weird stuff. Well,
(01:08):
we don't even need to give you the rundown because
this is eclectic and somewhat esoteric without further ado, let's
not stand on ceremony. Let's get right to it. How
many bugs did you eat today?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Folks?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Unclear? I have accidentally inhaled a bug before I'm sitting
on my porch on a lovely October's Eve, and that's
not fun. But you know, you always hear statistics, right,
It's like every human being naturally consumes x thousands of
(01:42):
bugs a year or whatever, or maybe I made.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
That statistic up. Surely it exists.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Surely someone has measured the likelihood of organic bug consumption.
I don't mean organic like the fancy ki That is mean,
you know, in normal, under normal circumstances. But we got
an email from Brad. I don't know that Brad's concerned,
but acknowledge that Twitter is concerned and Reddit is concerned.
Some people, perhaps you might label them as alarmists, are
(02:09):
concerned that they're gonna be feeding us bugs. You guys,
what we think is the sweet sweet meats of the
chicken or the beef cow or whatever is actually creepy
crawley bugs. Because try as they might, big bug has
not taken off in the United States in terms of
like a functional protein substitute.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
We know that in Latin.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
America there are you know, crickets or a very common topping,
you know, on tacos and ants and stuff. I went
to a restaurant in New York year or so ago
called I think the black ants, and they have some
you know, insect proteins on their menu. What we do
know is that it is a pretty viable source of
protein if you can get past the sticker shock, I
(02:56):
guess the ick factor of it.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, and once people the bugs. They've been saying that
for well into a decade now, understandably so.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Because it does create a much better for the planet substitutes,
you know, than meat. We know that you know, farming, cattle, farming,
and all of the emissions that it causes from cowfarts
and all of that stuff. And also there's massive amounts
of resources that it takes to you know, to grow
(03:26):
or to raise what could be considered a luxury item
if you really wanted to break it down to brass tax.
You know, we could probably survive on protein pills like
they said we would in the future. But we love
the taste of cows. We love the taste of chickens.
So you know, we could argue that there might be
a future where our planet is in such poor shape
(03:47):
that those things are no longer viable for the planet.
But knowing us at least here in America, will push
it off to the last possible second. And we know
we need our legacy industries, great American companies, you know,
great assault of the earth farmers, although we know that
that's largely a myth too, because the ones who are
truly making money off of this kind of thing are
the Tyson Foods of the world, you know, or like
(04:09):
the much larger corporate interest that maybe at one point
started off as a little family, mom and pop type chickenry,
but not no longer. And I'm just gonna get right
into the email from Brad. Hey, guys, I was on
x in Quotes Today with Jella today and noticed a
bunch of activity around Tyson Foods. Recently, they announced a
partnership with the company Protis to develop insect based protein
(04:32):
for pet and agricultural feed. There has since been a
ton of folks online advocating that they quote will never
eat bugs and we should boycott Tyson products, even though
the protein is not currently planned for human consumption. I
know there are wider conspiracies around the deep state, globalists
and the World Economic Forum forcing everyone to eat bugs,
so thought this might be a topic you'd want to
(04:55):
dive into further. Some people have tied in COVID, Big Pharma,
Bill Gates, and World War or three as well, world
War three being the one that hasn't happened or arguably
is happening right now, and we just don't call it
that yet because that's usually how these things go, especially
when world wars are concerned. I've attached an article from
Tyson like a press release situation, and some screenshots of
(05:15):
tweets that I've seen on the topic. Thanks Brad, and
I'll just read a few things. Bama Jean's on Twitter says, well, now,
thanks to COVID, we know we can't trust the FDA anyway.
Anyone else noticed how bread doesn't mold anymore? Haven't bought
Tyson chicken in years anyway because of the hormones. Makes
me wonder if food has produced all the beta males
and obese population. Linda Britton Fairchild or on Twitter says,
(05:40):
here we go, or retweets a post from somebody else,
Here we go. Tyson Foods is now adding bugs to
their foods, and then another from Curls Green Eyes. They
are getting ready to feed you zee bugs brought to
you by Tyson Foods. Last one Paul M. Davis, You
will eat ze bugs, and then Klaus Schwab. Boys, I
don't know schwab is, but I presumably a Nazi of
(06:03):
some stripe. Tyson Foods builds first insect protein food factory
Watch WW three will cause food prices to soar out
of control and the middle class will be forced to
literally eat bugs because it's all we can't afford.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Klaus Schwab is the chairperson of the w EF the
world my bad.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Not a Nazi at all. I just decided, well they
were doing the Nazi.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
We show us as your papers. You know it's a
Germans plaice or whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
So apologies to mister Schwab.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Not a Nazi, just a German.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
The implication, though I believe in the tweet was there
was some you know, parallel whatever. Anyway, again, these tweets,
to me, I don't know about you guys, seem a
little alarmist, pushing this whole thing to the nth degree
because Tyson in their release said they're they're they're testing
it out. They bought a majority shareholder Steak in this
protext company, and they're using it for pet food. And
(06:56):
also we know agricultural feed is already made out of
all kinds of crazy stuff. Some times they even feed
waste to these animals, other animal waste or ground up
eggshells and things like that. So it's sort of a hierarchy.
But the assumption immediately from some folks goes to they're
feeding us bugs, sort of like they're taking our jobs.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Oh sorry, Matt, were you saying.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh, yeah, that's the point. It smells of the same
thing that we see every day now where it's you
read the headline and you make assumptions about what that
means rather than actually gaining any context before putting your
opinion into the old gauntlet there.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
And you know, protechs to the company started in two
thousand and nine. This is from their website.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Our journey.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
We've been dedicated to bringing the food system back into
balance with nature. We will not rest until we have
achieved this mission. Having perfected our low footprint ingredients and
the technological and commercial models, we're now expanding internationally. This
allows us to bring healthy and sustainable and nutrition on
a much larger scale, creating a better world already today, guys,
(08:01):
I would posit or pose the question, how is this
that different from like, you know, impossible meat or like
lab grown chicken or whatever. It's just another thing that
you can like, you know, like tofu you can or
like sitan or other you know, vegetarian or vegan quote
unquote meat substitute options. They're just proteins and you just
(08:22):
dress them up however you want. You know, So I
would argue that if you gave me a Burger patty
made out of crickets and it tasted good and had
nutritional value, like, where's the harm in that? I don't
think that any company would secretly replace our Folger's crystals
with crickets. It would be illegal.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
To do, so, I gotta be honest, I got a
cricket in the game on this one. Out of us.
I probably I'm not to make assumptions, but I probably
am the person who's eaten the most insects, just in
various situations. And the the interesting thing here to me
and Brad your email really stood out to me as well,
(09:03):
is first, yes, there has been a push from various
international organizations to promote the consumption of insects. Many countries
many parts of the world have been doing this for
since antiquity, right, and you can to your point about
the restaurant in New York. You can find some of
this in the States and other quote unquote developed parts
(09:23):
of the world, and it's tasty stuff. You know, you
can fry pretty much anything is the secret. But there's
something that I don't know. I don't know whether they're
considering this fully to your point, Matt about going past
the headline. This may be this is an answer. I
think it's a correct answer. It may be a little
bit too late of an answer, because as you see,
(09:45):
like for the past what the past five years more,
scientists have been incredibly alarmed about plummeting insect numbers. So
when the world finally like main streams that is a
source of food, they might have a tough time finding
all the insects that once were so abundant, Which leads
(10:06):
us to, you know, which insects are going to become
the livestock, right, because the only non human animals doing
well now are chickens, goats, cattle, right, lamb, and they
all have one thing in common. They became an easily
attainable food source for humans. So that's what I'm thinking of.
What are like the four to five types of insects
(10:28):
that are going to be going to be the munchibles.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Well, my big one, the big one that the company
is talking about is the black Soldier fly, and again
into the ick factor element because they quote, according to
the CEO of Protis Keys Arts, the black soldier fly
can grow on almost every type of food waste and
byproduct you can imagine, So the waste management is also
(10:56):
part of their whole deal. Matt, you're going to jump
in with something on that your eyes lighting that.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The reason why it's going to work in is what
you said, because it's all farming, right, It's it's not Uh,
they're not going out looking for insects. They've got their insects.
And one of the things that this company sells are
black soldier fly eggs in bulk, right, so that basically
they're producing so many that they're now outputting the eggs
(11:21):
so that other people can begin growing their own black
soldier flies for other uses.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Right, But what mean for biodiversity?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Oh, because it's not gonna be good.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I could see this leading to a biblical plague of
locusts kind of situation under the rock soldier stand right,
I could I could see that if they got out
of hand. But again, Tyson is investing in this, and
it's kind of funny. It's sort of the way you know,
maybe older media companies started investing in podcasts, you know,
(11:53):
or whatever, like something like we gotta catch we got
to catch the wave of the future. We got a
future proof our company. And while no one suggesting that
we make tyson fly patties and sell those who knows
things could take a turn, and then they're already kind
of in the game, you know, in terms of what
could happen with our our our planet and the ability
(12:14):
to sustain you.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Know, meat production and consumption.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But it's weird because, okay, so you are what you eat, right,
The nutrients you take in become your cells, which then
become you. Right, and if that that is just a
truth of two guys, and they are. One of the
plans of this company is to get chickens to feed
on live larva rather than on things like soy, to
(12:38):
feed the chickens, so then the chickens are now live
larva chickens live larva eggs that you buy at the store. Right,
that's what fed them to make them. So in a
weird way, some of those tweets are right, but not
in not in the.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
There's always a negative truth in these alarmist over the reactions,
and that's where they usually start. These aren't stupid people,
I don't think, you know, I mean in general, I
would say people mean well most of the time, maybe.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Not, who knows.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
But my point is they're latching onto something that feels
like it could be the thing, even if it's not
currently the thing. And again, to your point, Ben, it
would be absolutely illegal for these companies to secretly feed
us this stuff, so they would have to have an
alternative like impossible burger or like you know whatever that
they would then market as such. There is a pet
(13:32):
food company that already markets itself as an insect protein
based food for your pets called Lovebug, So they're like
leaning into it. It's not like a secret or like
used as filler. It's like it's the whole deal. And
then people are gonna buy that because of the impact
on the environment. And I mentioned the hierarchy earlier, it's like,
(13:54):
of course we're gonna start this off on our pets,
right because only the most you know, absolutely over the
top pet PARENTO be like I'm not feeding my fluffy
any larvae or flies or bugs, that's gross. Fluffy eats
only what I eat because she is my baby, my
sweet sweet fur baby. So it's easier to swallow on
(14:15):
a lower you know, rung of the evolutionary ladder.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I guess same with bugs.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
For some reason, there's no outcry against eating bugs, even
from the most you know, environmental of folks who maybe
animal writes type folks. It's much easier sell than chickens
and cows and sweet sweet bunnies.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Sweet sweet bunnies.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
But at the same time, it is in a weird
place between you know, carnivorous diets and like vegan diets
or something, because it is right, it's just a weird
place because you can put yourself in the mind of
a fly, right and if there's like think about how
many flies you need to make the same amount of
(14:59):
protein match cial that you would, you know, use chickens
to make.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Right billions, right, like insane amount. I'm sure like on
scale at scale right.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
One of the things the company sells is a thing
called lipid X, which is forty three percent loric acid,
which is it's fats that are produced from black soldier flies.
Think about how many flies you need to make just
a vial of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Additionally, too, there's this so the question of social mores right,
expectations and taboo. Some countries, communities, cultures will consider things,
you know, totally fine to eat or totally forbidden. And
there's not really a scientific reason for a lot of it, right.
Some of it is due to past ages when refrigeration
(15:50):
and sanitation technology was non existent or nowhere near as good.
But I would advance to you folks if you're saying
bugs are gross and you eat, can remember chickens love
eating insects. All you're doing is eating insects with a middleman,
you know. So it's it's.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Really really good point something to think about it, indeed,
and I think probably a story will follow and potentially
maybe talk a little bit more about sustainable food source
I can't remember. We certainly have in the past, but
maybe something a little more on the along the lines
of like, you know, the future of it or whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Again, I know we've probably done that, but it might
be time for an update. Thank you, Brad for the
illuminating email and screenshots, and we're going to take a
quick break here a word from our sponsor, and come
back with more messages from you.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And we've returned that company. Guys also makes fly to lizer,
which is fertilizer made out of flies, which feels like
something that humanity genuinely could use. I don't know, sounds
interesting to me. All right, let's jump to the phone lines.
We are going to hear from no One in particular
who was a constant caller.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
If you promised us a person, Matt, you promised us.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
There, shout out, please shout out no One in particular.
Here we go. This is what you had to say.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Hello, this is no One in particular, and you are
welcome to use this as usual. I was just listening
to an episode from the archive about can cannabis cure cancer?
And well, something Noel said brought up the memory. But
to initially answer that science may be inconclusive, but I'm
(17:39):
going to say that the science has to say yes,
because placebos can cure cancer. I mean, every medication in
the world goes up but basically against medicinalized face healing
to see if it's better than that before it's an
approved drug. Now to what Nole said, because it cracked
(18:03):
me up about how Dare came in and they brought
a briefcase full of drugs. Well, when I got home
the day that they did that at my school, my
dad's best friend was a coke dealer. My uncle was
a heroin dealer. Another uncle was a math dealer. And
(18:23):
when they heard about that, they instantly said, Oh, I
bet they were watching the kids for who recognized so
they'd know where to look later. Anyway, you guys, have
a great show.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well, no one in particular. Those are two very interesting points,
just to rehash really quickly, guys. I think the point
is maybe marijuana does cure cancer because it's going against
a placebo like all other drugs, and it may, at
least in some of these trials it does seem to
do better. Lots more recent w you needed on that front.
(19:01):
But the thing that was really interesting to me is
something I'd never thought about with those DARE presentations back
in the day. Could they have been surveilling the kids,
like for real, surveilling the kids to see if there's
anyone in their immediate friends or family group that has
these drugs that they're just showing them for ostensibly the
first time.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, it's a great point. No one in particular, perhaps
perhaps to the folks who who pitch that to you,
because I imagine it's very smart, and I imagine it was
not official policy, but in certain neighborhoods or municipalities, I
could totally see el Eos using that, using that procedure.
(19:41):
And you know, I say that as a proud winner
of several Dare Award essays. But I do also, for
the record, think they gave everybody an award at some point.
It just makes sense. I mean those also, weren't those
the kind of science project looking trifold cases? Weren't those
filled with replica drugs rather than actual you know, crack
(20:05):
cocaine or LSD, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I certainly hope.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
So I was looking at it, like, yeah, it's like
those like the food fake food the youse see a
Chinese restaurants sometimes, you know, it's kind of like that,
but like for cracking LSD.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, I was looking at them again just to actually
see like the ones that we probably saw growing up.
And I mean there's actual paraphernalia in there for sure, right,
like a broken spoon with some cotton in it, a
match book that's like half emptied, so that a couple
of roaches or whatever, could fit in there. It looks
(20:43):
like a fake poppy for sure. I don't know about
the rest anyway, just an interesting thought. I can't remember
if there were two officers, there were two? Dare people
there like during a presentation? Or if it was just one.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's usually three. McGruff is a cop in a costume?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Well but I mean, but even if there are two, right,
like one person giving the presentation, the other one watching
your eyes. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I don't know, maybe not, Maybe it's nothing.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
All right, Well, let's jump to our next caller, and
this one comes from Abyssle.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Hey, guys, the world sucks. So here's what's my interesting call.
You guys are aware of the abistle zone, right, it's
the portion of the ocean that's so dark that light
can't even penetrate that deep into the ocean. Well, that
is eighty three percent of the ocean no light, completely dark.
(21:46):
That eighty percent of the ocean accounts for sixty percent
of the planet's surface completely dark. Can't even get light there.
I don't know if you are aware. But the square
cube law, which is essentially the law that prevents animals
(22:07):
from growing infinitely large before they collapse under their own weight.
The square cube law does not apply under water. Interesting.
I just wanted to give you a little bit of
brightening information. I guess feel free to do it. That's
(22:27):
what you will. I'll remain anonymous. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yes, yes, I'm glad you chose this one, Matt. It
is It is interesting. Now people will argue with a
lot of validity that wild square cube does not apply
to the maritime creatures. Simply, the tremendous per inch square
(22:54):
pounds of pressure per square inch in the Abysto plane
and the lastack of nutrients severely impedes growth past a
certain threshold. But also scientists don't know a ton about
what's down there.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That's just true, Yeah, very much so. That just the
square cube law, guys. Just I'm sure y'all are aware
of it, but I wasn't aware of it as much.
Looking through MIT describes it really well. If you think
about an ant, that ant has teeny tiny little legs,
and it doesn't it barely weighs anything. So those legs
(23:30):
have no problem supporting the weight of that ant, and
yet it can still lift like fifty times its weight
with those tiny little legs. But if you increase the
size of that ant at exact proportions, right, you don't
have to make it much larger before those legs can
no longer hold its weight because the volume. As the
(23:52):
area increases, the volume actually increases by a cube I think,
or a cube, the area only increases by basically a square.
Does that make sense? So like area times itself versus
area times itself times itself when it comes to the
volume of a thing, a structure or anything. So the
(24:13):
concept here that Abisle is pointing to is that since
you don't have legs and you're just swimming through a medium,
you can get pretty dang big. But then your point
is absolutely right that the pressures, surrounding pressures and lack
of nutrients do also put a hamper on that. But
there are giant things that we've discovered in the past
that we've talked about that are swimming around the oceans.
(24:36):
It's just whether or not they're hanging out in that
abyssal zone.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Got it.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
When I hear Abisole, I always think of the movie Mandy,
where like they're these like evil cultists. They were like
they're always talking about the abyssle plane, you know, which
is like some sort of infernal region where like demonic
creatures come from. And that's of those things in the
ocean look like, man, those ones with the lamps on
their heads and the big creepy like headlight look yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And people may also be thinking of the Abyss. We
do know, of course, that sea monsters, for lack of
a better term, are the stuff of legend. There are
quite likely many undiscovered creatures out there in the deep,
and we as a civilization are far more likely to
(25:23):
find them now than at any other point. But there's
a real there's a real window of time for that,
isn't there? Like, I don't know, there's a big question
about how much and how thoroughly humanity should explore the
abyssal plane. I think it's going to become more important.
I think it's worthwhile science. What do you guys think?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I mean, yeah, it's certainly an undiscovered there. Seems like
if there was going to be a place to discover
new things that would be there.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, Well, what are we going to do down there?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
That's a good question too, you know, and find out.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But really, unless we're going down to drill more offshore
oil stuff or lay some pipe, you know, I don't
know what. I don't know what humanity is going to
do down there, Like as you said it, those tremendous
pressures and just the extremes that it would take to
get a human being down there to.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Do some stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Unfortunately, necessity being the mother of invention, it may be
a situation wherein humanity does have to live beneath water
because it's such an effective shield against radiation. Right, screw
up the surface world and then have civilization incentivized to
address some of those problems and build underwater habitats. But
(26:39):
they probably still even then, and an excellent job on
the percentages there, excellent job on the statistics man. Even then, abyssle,
there will not be there will not be a great
incentive to go too deep just because it's inconvenient. What
humanity would do in that situation is fine, the minimum
(27:00):
amount of depth needed to exist safely, and then they
would start building there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, because ABIs will zone sixty six hundred feet down
to twenty thousand feet beneath the service of the ocean.
So that's like, yeah, that's nice and deep. I bet
we could have our sea lab somewhere. Our Sea Lab
twenty twenty or whatever was so hey, thanks so much
for calling in with that interesting observation there. Thank you
(27:30):
so much as well too, no one in particular. We'll
be right back with more messages from you.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
And we have returned with the third act of this
week's listener mail segment. Our first story is a true
crime story. May this this contains some disturbing stuff. As
a result, it may not be suitable for all listeners,
but we're going to do a quick cavalcade of this
and we're going to end with some nice letters from home.
(28:03):
So here is our first piece from Beeswax, not yours Beeswax.
As gentlemen, in case you haven't heard, there is a
fugitive who escaped custody in East Tennessee this week. His
story is full of negligence and incompetence on the part
of law enforcement or possibly a full blown conspiracy. It
began many years ago when he was a prominent businessman
(28:26):
in Johnson City and allegedly began drugging and will say
sexually assaulting women, including miners. Complaints to the Johnson City
Police Department went uninvestigated, leading to the termination of an
officer for attempting to investigate him. Leading to a federal
lawsuit against the police department itself. When this person became
(28:49):
a federal prosecutor. After the fed's investigation lawsuit, the police
chief resigned. Real charges were brought, but this suspect was
already on the run. You finally got located in North Carolina,
he got arrested, and this week he escaped the custody
of some Kentucky Sheriff's deputies who are transporting him on
(29:10):
behalf of the US Marshals listen to this part. Apparently
he removed his restraints and kicked out a van window
somehow without alerting the officers transporting him. And bees Wax
or not Yours Beeswax says, that's my best understanding of
the circumstances. Provide some local articles about the situation and
(29:31):
wants to see whether we can shed some additional light
on the story, ending with thanks for everything you do.
As you guys know, I love when we get email
in this situation, because it wrote back to not yours
bees Wax and got to say this story is incredibly disturbing.
(29:52):
The suspect's name is Sean Williams, and in so many episodes,
in so many strange news or listener mail segments. We
have talked at length about the prevalence of corruption in
some small towns, and while Johnson City is not necessarily
a small town, it's part of the Tri Cities area
(30:15):
there in northeast Tennessee. Reading through the articles that you sent, Beeswax,
it does very much look like someone in law enforcement
was aiding and abetting this guy's criminal career for quite
some time. I mean, have you guys got in a
chance to read some of the stuff that beeswax and in.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Hearing of it, yeah, looking at it now as well,
why does it seem like somebody was helping him?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Because he seems to have been a bit of a
big wheel in the local drug game. He also was
seems to have been somehow protected. That is, that is
my estimation, because there was retaliation against what one person,
in particular, Mikayla Evans, who attempted to bring charges against
(31:06):
this guy for sexual assaults, for transportation and sale of narcotics.
As soon as she started looking into this guy, she
became certain that he was under the protection of at
least some faction.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Of law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
And so Mikayla Evans is the person who starts interviewing
women who alleged that Williams has sexually assaulted them. This
is for the record, outside of the scope of her
normal duties, and she repeatedly asked different detectives, different members
(31:49):
of law enforcement to investigate Williams. She was saying, why
are you not pulling the trigger on this? Why are
you're not looking into it? And unfortunately it seems like
they buried the entire case. The problem with that too,
is that corruption aside that calls the escape story into
(32:11):
question too, Like if this guy had juice, how far
did his juice go?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You know, mm hmm man for doing some pretty horrible things,
Like it's hard to imagine that he's protected unless it
is that drug connection. Right, somehow there's a profit motive
that's moving through law enforcement because there are some horrific
things he's being charged with.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, and he is his whole name, Sean Christopher Williams.
He's fifty one years old. Just to be clear, folks,
people don't usually escape from prison transport vans. They're kind
of locked up. They're not your average Honda Odyssey, and
he's he So it's weird because then that would mean
there's interstate corruption right, or maybe he had enough money
(32:57):
that he was able as a free agent to payoff
people to look the other way while he escaped. He
has been he is known. Apparently, he's a known entity
and bad guy in this area.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I have some.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Relations and acquaintances in the Tri Cities area. When I
asked some folks about it, they said, yeah, everybody liked
some folks who had been kind of in the formerly
in the drug scene. They had told me. People knew
about this guy for quite some time. And you know
how it is in the underground, like those things that
(33:33):
police end up investigating, especially with characters like this, they're
often well known by people of the scene beforehand. Would
you say that's fair? I don't want to overgeneralize.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
That seems like a fair assessment to me.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So we're going to move on. We mainly want to
put the word out here because this guy has yet
to be apprehended. He went to ground, he's on the run.
The US Marshal Service is offering five thousand dollars in reward.
The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, the TBI is offering twenty
(34:07):
five hundred dollars. Now, in a recent conversation, we had
an interview segment with the creator of ear Witness, Beth Shelburne,
and in that we pointed out there can be a
lot of problems with offering a reward for a suspect,
but in this case we can argue it's different because
the identity of the suspect is known. They're not being
(34:29):
paid to accuse someone of something. They're being rewarded for
bringing an absolute monster to justice. The earliest charges I
found date back to two thousand and eight, which probably
means who is active way before then. So we want
to put the word out there, let us know if
you see anything, let us know whether you think this
guy is going to get away. It's a scary story,
(34:54):
but it's an important announcement and we don't want to
end on something too brutal, So be safe, take care
out there, folks. And I thought maybe we could go
to a bit of a palette cleanser with some comments
on the science of getting to the Moon, which we
spent a lot of time talking about earlier. This is
(35:15):
from Magnolia Mayhem. Magnolia says, I don't care if you
read this on air. I forget who it was who
bought this up. Late in the episode about the new
Space Race, but someone brought up having a single rocket
go to the moon and come back. The reason we
can't use this concept is because of something called the
rocket equation. It's a terrible little formula that I'm not
(35:35):
going to write out here. Instead, think of a rocket
and a payload. The rocket has one gallon of fuel
and a one pound payload parentheses metric get wrecked, All right, USA,
I got you, Magnolia. This fuel payload combination gets one
mile to the sky. What happens if you need to
get two pounds to the one mile line? Most people
(35:56):
go to a linear graph. One gallon gets you one
mile with one pound, so two pounds gets you two
pounds up right? Magnolia says no, because God hates rockets.
The extra fuel is itself a payload that the original
fuel has to lift. Because of this, the fuel you
need to get two pounds up to the same altitude
(36:18):
as one pound is going to be closer to four gallons,
and then continues to say, that's why rockets have to
be as light as possible. That's why these stages you
drop used up fuel tanks. You can work around the
rocket equation shed extra weight, and there's been a lot
of work around what's known as SSTOs single stage to orbits.
Magnolia says the closest we ever got to this was
(36:40):
the Space Shuttle, and that still dropped solid rocket boosters
and needed an extra pair of engines to get it
past dropping the orange tank. And then, Magnolia you recommend
a video on YouTube called Space Shuttle oms burn, where
you see two astronauts in a roll a duct tape
left hovering in the air when the shuttle fires its
(37:01):
oms to adjust its orbit. Those are those engines that
can move things around, and then talks a little bit
more about helium, also a little bit about the lunar Lander,
because the lunar Lander, this is one of our questions
in the episode, is only possible. The only way that
thing works is by having the skin of the lander
(37:21):
be as thin as tinfoil, leaving the landing part on
the moon, and having zero redundancy for the engine that
took them back up to command. And even just hearing
that is terrified, Right, That's a whole other kind of abyss.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
It almost makes it seem hard to believe that it
occurred successfully all those times.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Eah.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah, you know, eat to their own.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But also, you know, guys, it makes me think maybe
maybe it's like an RPG, like an open world role
playing game where you can advance to areas that are
way past your current level. You know, maybe we're like
a level twelve situation. Khruschev jokes aside. Maybe we're like
(38:02):
a level twelve situation, and Space or the Moon is
like level forty something. Right, maybe we are. Maybe we
need to get some groundwork done before we go to
the higher level enemies like Space at.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Vacuum, Like rockets were an accident. We weren't supposed to
discover rockets quite yet because we don't have the other
technology that we need.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, like we watched a YouTube hack, except instead of
getting a cool staff and elder ring, it was a
hack to get rockets before we were supposed to.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, Nazis, thanks a lot.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Then you end up stuck on that part of Skyram
where the dragons just eat you alive, you know, instantly,
and and you don't have a save close enough, so
you just give up on the game.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Sorry, I was just describing what happened with me in.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Skyram, but it's a reasonable analogy.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
And this this also makes me think. I thought this
was a nice compliment to the idea of deep sea
an abyssle playing exploration, because humanity does need to explore,
right and no one in humanity really wants to be
told stay at home and fix stuff like fix your
house before you go on a trip. You know, Humanity
(39:15):
kind of needs to clean itself up before establishing stuff
on the Moon.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
That's one of the big philosophical divides. What do you
guys think should should human beings put a pause on
space travel and fix Earth's problems before continuing?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Or yes?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
But I mean, but it's also one of those questions
where you could weigh it like is it too late
for Earth? Should we be exploring the final Frontier? Because
that's where we're heading, you know, at least those of
us that can afford it. I'm sort of joking, but
not really. I mean, I don't think we're completely hopeless
here on Earth, but man, some of the stories that
we hear starts to feel.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Like that every now and oh gosh, an environmental waste
photographer in China just got arrested for going to jin Yang,
So people don't even some very powerful governments don't even
want us to talk about what's happening to the natural world.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Don't know either. Is it just like a Is it
a situation where we should just treat planets and ecosystems
as ultimately disposable, like move on to the Moon and
then move on to Mars and then just go somewhere
else when when we crap out on Mars.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
We certainly should have a more holistic approach to not
thinking like that. But past a certain point, it's like, well,
what other options do we I mean, you know, I
don't know. Man. People make some bad decisions who are
in power and have for many, many many years. We
can't tell them to just think of the planet like
it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Work like that.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
We had someone call in recently that said, the technology
itself is the thing. We talked about this before on
one of these But the technology itself is the virus
that wants to spread itself to the next planetary body.
Like the technology is it, It's not humans. Humanity is
meant to be here on this planet. This is where
we were born, this is where we thrive, where we
could thrive. But the technology itself is the thing pushing
(41:10):
us towards the stars, which again isn't an absolute thing.
It's just a concept, It's an idea. But man, if
it doesn't resonate with me, and you know, I feel
like we can probably do both things simultaneously. There's nothing
stopping us from exploring the Moon further and trying to
get to Mars and establishing stuff there. We just need
(41:32):
to decide somehow as a species that the money, the
currency thing that we have that funds everything on the
planet could and should be used for this kind of exploration,
rather than building more war toys and sending them across
oceans to hang out while proxy wars continued to be fought.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I've crossed oceans of time, shout out Bram Stoker's Dracula. Yeah,
I agree with you to a large degree. There, humanity
as midwife to an ultimately an ultimately galaxy spanning life
form that is not organic or is techno organic in nature,
(42:17):
the idea of I would I would also say I
agree with you that these goals space exploration and preservation
of Earth as it is now or was in the past.
They are not mutually exclusive. As a matter of fact,
I would posit the main thing stopping them is the
ideological system of economy, right, the belief that the ways
(42:39):
in which the world has decided to distribute, allocate, and
prioritize resources. I also think to your point, Noel, Earth
is going to be fine. Humanity. Maybe that's a fad,
but Earth will carry on, and perhaps a tiny fly
that was once raised simply to be a food source
(42:59):
in millions and millions of years, perhaps they will become
They will fill the role of current humans, and they
will have the same arguments. Should we go deep into
the ocean, We're flies, We're not built for that. Should
we go into space, Yeah, you know, I feel like
space would make more sense to flies. We're gonna end
(43:19):
on one letter from home. We're not going to read
the whole thing here, but we do want to give
a shout out. We got a very very wonderful piece
of correspondence from Captain Kabam, who is making a comic
book and has been leveraging some emergent technology to assist
(43:40):
them in the creation of that comic book. So we
just wanted to say checked it out. Great workman, Go
Captain Kabam. I don't know about you, guys. I don't
want to assume, but I believe we all love seeing
it when our fellow conspiracy realists send in creative works.
You know, we've got a kid's horror Cup podcast we're
going to check out. We've got a lot of paintings,
(44:02):
really cool stuff. So thank you, as always, so much
for everybody who took the time to join the show.
We're talking Magnolia, Mayhem, Captain Kabam, Beeswax, not yours, anonymous, abyssle,
no one in particular, and Brad if you want to
join their ranks, we would love to have you on
the show. Let us know what's on your mind, leads
(44:23):
for new episodes, things that you find to be strange,
news questions, clarifications, and of course, as always, hashtag no
pun left behind.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
It's ray. You can find us to the handle conspiracy
stuff on all the usual social media platforms with choice
x nay, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube on Instagram and TikTok
're conspiracy stuff show.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I for one, hate it when you send in your
creative pursuits. Stop that, No, for sure, I'm sure you. Hey,
do you want to call us? Our number is one
eight three three st d WYTK. It's a phone system,
so you've got three minutes, give yourself a cool nickname,
and let us know if we can use your message
and voice on one of our listener mail episodes. If
(45:07):
you got more to say and they can fit in
that three minutes, why not instead send us a good
old fashioned email.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
We are conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Stuff they don't want you to know. Is a production
of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Welcome back to the show. My name is Met, my
name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
They called me Bed. We're joined as always with our
superproducer Alexis Cod named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you
are you, You are here. That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. Listener Mail segment on
the road. And we have so many great pieces of correspondence.
(00:48):
I know, I know, we all say this pretty often
and it's always true. But this week there's an extraordinary abundance,
an embarrassment of riches. We're going to hear from quite
a few of our fellow conspiracy realists. We're gonna touch
on a lot of a lot of weird stuff. Well,
(01:08):
we don't even need to give you the rundown because
this is eclectic and somewhat esoteric without further ado, let's
not stand on ceremony. Let's get right to it. How
many bugs did you eat today?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Folks?
Speaker 5 (01:21):
Unclear? I have accidentally inhaled a bug before I'm sitting
on my porch on a lovely October's Eve, and that's
not fun. But you know, you always hear statistics, right,
It's like every human being naturally consumes x thousands of
(01:42):
bugs a year or whatever, or maybe I made.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
That statistic up. Surely it exists.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Surely someone has measured the likelihood of organic bug consumption.
I don't mean organic like the fancy ki That is mean,
you know, in normal, under normal circumstances. But we got
an email from Brad. I don't know that Brad's concerned,
but acknowledge that Twitter is concerned and Reddit is concerned.
Some people, perhaps you might label them as alarmists, are
(02:09):
concerned that they're gonna be feeding us bugs. You guys,
what we think is the sweet sweet meats of the
chicken or the beef cow or whatever is actually creepy
crawley bugs. Because try as they might, big bug has
not taken off in the United States in terms of
like a functional protein substitute.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
We know that in Latin.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
America there are you know, crickets or a very common topping,
you know, on tacos and ants and stuff. I went
to a restaurant in New York year or so ago
called I think the black ants, and they have some
you know, insect proteins on their menu. What we do
know is that it is a pretty viable source of
protein if you can get past the sticker shock, I
(02:56):
guess the ick factor of it.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, and once people the bugs. They've been saying that
for well into a decade now, understandably so.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Because it does create a much better for the planet substitutes,
you know, than meat. We know that you know, farming, cattle, farming,
and all of the emissions that it causes from cowfarts
and all of that stuff. And also there's massive amounts
of resources that it takes to you know, to grow
(03:26):
or to raise what could be considered a luxury item
if you really wanted to break it down to brass tax.
You know, we could probably survive on protein pills like
they said we would in the future. But we love
the taste of cows. We love the taste of chickens.
So you know, we could argue that there might be
a future where our planet is in such poor shape
(03:47):
that those things are no longer viable for the planet.
But knowing us at least here in America, will push
it off to the last possible second. And we know
we need our legacy industries, great American companies, you know,
great assault of the earth farmers, although we know that
that's largely a myth too, because the ones who are
truly making money off of this kind of thing are
the Tyson Foods of the world, you know, or like
(04:09):
the much larger corporate interest that maybe at one point
started off as a little family, mom and pop type chickenry,
but not no longer. And I'm just gonna get right
into the email from Brad. Hey, guys, I was on
x in Quotes Today with Jella today and noticed a
bunch of activity around Tyson Foods. Recently, they announced a
partnership with the company Protis to develop insect based protein
(04:32):
for pet and agricultural feed. There has since been a
ton of folks online advocating that they quote will never
eat bugs and we should boycott Tyson products, even though
the protein is not currently planned for human consumption. I
know there are wider conspiracies around the deep state, globalists
and the World Economic Forum forcing everyone to eat bugs,
so thought this might be a topic you'd want to
(04:55):
dive into further. Some people have tied in COVID, Big Pharma,
Bill Gates, and World War or three as well, world
War three being the one that hasn't happened or arguably
is happening right now, and we just don't call it
that yet because that's usually how these things go, especially
when world wars are concerned. I've attached an article from
Tyson like a press release situation, and some screenshots of
(05:15):
tweets that I've seen on the topic. Thanks Brad, and
I'll just read a few things. Bama Jean's on Twitter says, well, now,
thanks to COVID, we know we can't trust the FDA anyway.
Anyone else noticed how bread doesn't mold anymore? Haven't bought
Tyson chicken in years anyway because of the hormones. Makes
me wonder if food has produced all the beta males
and obese population. Linda Britton Fairchild or on Twitter says,
(05:40):
here we go, or retweets a post from somebody else,
Here we go. Tyson Foods is now adding bugs to
their foods, and then another from Curls Green Eyes. They
are getting ready to feed you zee bugs brought to
you by Tyson Foods. Last one Paul M. Davis, You
will eat ze bugs, and then Klaus Schwab. Boys, I
don't know schwab is, but I presumably a Nazi of
(06:03):
some stripe. Tyson Foods builds first insect protein food factory
Watch WW three will cause food prices to soar out
of control and the middle class will be forced to
literally eat bugs because it's all we can't afford.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Klaus Schwab is the chairperson of the w EF the
world my bad.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Not a Nazi at all. I just decided, well they
were doing the Nazi.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
We show us as your papers. You know it's a
Germans plaice or whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
So apologies to mister Schwab.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Not a Nazi, just a German.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
The implication, though I believe in the tweet was there
was some you know, parallel whatever. Anyway, again, these tweets,
to me, I don't know about you guys, seem a
little alarmist, pushing this whole thing to the nth degree
because Tyson in their release said they're they're they're testing
it out. They bought a majority shareholder Steak in this
protext company, and they're using it for pet food. And
(06:56):
also we know agricultural feed is already made out of
all kinds of crazy stuff. Some times they even feed
waste to these animals, other animal waste or ground up
eggshells and things like that. So it's sort of a hierarchy.
But the assumption immediately from some folks goes to they're
feeding us bugs, sort of like they're taking our jobs.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Oh sorry, Matt, were you saying.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh, yeah, that's the point. It smells of the same
thing that we see every day now where it's you
read the headline and you make assumptions about what that
means rather than actually gaining any context before putting your
opinion into the old gauntlet there.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
And you know, protechs to the company started in two
thousand and nine. This is from their website.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Our journey.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
We've been dedicated to bringing the food system back into
balance with nature. We will not rest until we have
achieved this mission. Having perfected our low footprint ingredients and
the technological and commercial models, we're now expanding internationally. This
allows us to bring healthy and sustainable and nutrition on
a much larger scale, creating a better world already today, guys,
(08:01):
I would posit or pose the question, how is this
that different from like, you know, impossible meat or like
lab grown chicken or whatever. It's just another thing that
you can like, you know, like tofu you can or
like sitan or other you know, vegetarian or vegan quote
unquote meat substitute options. They're just proteins and you just
(08:22):
dress them up however you want. You know, So I
would argue that if you gave me a Burger patty
made out of crickets and it tasted good and had
nutritional value, like, where's the harm in that? I don't
think that any company would secretly replace our Folger's crystals
with crickets. It would be illegal.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
To do, so, I gotta be honest, I got a
cricket in the game on this one. Out of us.
I probably I'm not to make assumptions, but I probably
am the person who's eaten the most insects, just in
various situations. And the the interesting thing here to me
and Brad your email really stood out to me as well,
(09:03):
is first, yes, there has been a push from various
international organizations to promote the consumption of insects. Many countries
many parts of the world have been doing this for
since antiquity, right, and you can to your point about
the restaurant in New York. You can find some of
this in the States and other quote unquote developed parts
(09:23):
of the world, and it's tasty stuff. You know, you
can fry pretty much anything is the secret. But there's
something that I don't know. I don't know whether they're
considering this fully to your point, Matt about going past
the headline. This may be this is an answer. I
think it's a correct answer. It may be a little
bit too late of an answer, because as you see,
(09:45):
like for the past what the past five years more,
scientists have been incredibly alarmed about plummeting insect numbers. So
when the world finally like main streams that is a
source of food, they might have a tough time finding
all the insects that once were so abundant, Which leads
(10:06):
us to, you know, which insects are going to become
the livestock, right, because the only non human animals doing
well now are chickens, goats, cattle, right, lamb, and they
all have one thing in common. They became an easily
attainable food source for humans. So that's what I'm thinking of.
What are like the four to five types of insects
(10:28):
that are going to be going to be the munchibles.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Well, my big one, the big one that the company
is talking about is the black Soldier fly, and again
into the ick factor element because they quote, according to
the CEO of Protis Keys Arts, the black soldier fly
can grow on almost every type of food waste and
byproduct you can imagine, So the waste management is also
(10:56):
part of their whole deal. Matt, you're going to jump
in with something on that your eyes lighting that.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
The reason why it's going to work in is what
you said, because it's all farming, right, It's it's not Uh,
they're not going out looking for insects. They've got their insects.
And one of the things that this company sells are
black soldier fly eggs in bulk, right, so that basically
they're producing so many that they're now outputting the eggs
(11:21):
so that other people can begin growing their own black
soldier flies for other uses.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Right, But what mean for biodiversity?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Oh, because it's not gonna be good.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I could see this leading to a biblical plague of
locusts kind of situation under the rock soldier stand right,
I could I could see that if they got out
of hand. But again, Tyson is investing in this, and
it's kind of funny. It's sort of the way you know,
maybe older media companies started investing in podcasts, you know,
(11:53):
or whatever, like something like we gotta catch we got
to catch the wave of the future. We got a
future proof our company. And while no one suggesting that
we make tyson fly patties and sell those who knows
things could take a turn, and then they're already kind
of in the game, you know, in terms of what
could happen with our our our planet and the ability
(12:14):
to sustain you.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Know, meat production and consumption.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But it's weird because, okay, so you are what you eat, right,
The nutrients you take in become your cells, which then
become you. Right, and if that that is just a
truth of two guys, and they are. One of the
plans of this company is to get chickens to feed
on live larva rather than on things like soy, to
(12:38):
feed the chickens, so then the chickens are now live
larva chickens live larva eggs that you buy at the store. Right,
that's what fed them to make them. So in a
weird way, some of those tweets are right, but not
in not in the.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
There's always a negative truth in these alarmist over the reactions,
and that's where they usually start. These aren't stupid people,
I don't think, you know, I mean in general, I
would say people mean well most of the time, maybe.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Not, who knows.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
But my point is they're latching onto something that feels
like it could be the thing, even if it's not
currently the thing. And again, to your point, Ben, it
would be absolutely illegal for these companies to secretly feed
us this stuff, so they would have to have an
alternative like impossible burger or like you know whatever that
they would then market as such. There is a pet
(13:32):
food company that already markets itself as an insect protein
based food for your pets called Lovebug, So they're like
leaning into it. It's not like a secret or like
used as filler. It's like it's the whole deal. And
then people are gonna buy that because of the impact
on the environment. And I mentioned the hierarchy earlier, it's like,
(13:54):
of course we're gonna start this off on our pets,
right because only the most you know, absolutely over the
top pet PARENTO be like I'm not feeding my fluffy
any larvae or flies or bugs, that's gross. Fluffy eats
only what I eat because she is my baby, my
sweet sweet fur baby. So it's easier to swallow on
(14:15):
a lower you know, rung of the evolutionary ladder.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I guess same with bugs.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
For some reason, there's no outcry against eating bugs, even
from the most you know, environmental of folks who maybe
animal writes type folks. It's much easier sell than chickens
and cows and sweet sweet bunnies.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Sweet sweet bunnies.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
But at the same time, it is in a weird
place between you know, carnivorous diets and like vegan diets
or something, because it is right, it's just a weird
place because you can put yourself in the mind of
a fly, right and if there's like think about how
many flies you need to make the same amount of
(14:59):
protein match cial that you would, you know, use chickens
to make.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Right billions, right, like insane amount. I'm sure like on
scale at scale right.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
One of the things the company sells is a thing
called lipid X, which is forty three percent loric acid,
which is it's fats that are produced from black soldier flies.
Think about how many flies you need to make just
a vial of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Additionally, too, there's this so the question of social mores right,
expectations and taboo. Some countries, communities, cultures will consider things,
you know, totally fine to eat or totally forbidden. And
there's not really a scientific reason for a lot of it, right.
Some of it is due to past ages when refrigeration
(15:50):
and sanitation technology was non existent or nowhere near as good.
But I would advance to you folks if you're saying
bugs are gross and you eat, can remember chickens love
eating insects. All you're doing is eating insects with a middleman,
you know. So it's it's.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Really really good point something to think about it, indeed,
and I think probably a story will follow and potentially
maybe talk a little bit more about sustainable food source
I can't remember. We certainly have in the past, but
maybe something a little more on the along the lines
of like, you know, the future of it or whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Again, I know we've probably done that, but it might
be time for an update. Thank you, Brad for the
illuminating email and screenshots, and we're going to take a
quick break here a word from our sponsor, and come
back with more messages from you.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And we've returned that company. Guys also makes fly to lizer,
which is fertilizer made out of flies, which feels like
something that humanity genuinely could use. I don't know, sounds
interesting to me. All right, let's jump to the phone lines.
We are going to hear from no One in particular
who was a constant caller.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
If you promised us a person, Matt, you promised us.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
There, shout out, please shout out no One in particular.
Here we go. This is what you had to say.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Hello, this is no One in particular, and you are
welcome to use this as usual. I was just listening
to an episode from the archive about can cannabis cure cancer?
And well, something Noel said brought up the memory. But
to initially answer that science may be inconclusive, but I'm
(17:39):
going to say that the science has to say yes,
because placebos can cure cancer. I mean, every medication in
the world goes up but basically against medicinalized face healing
to see if it's better than that before it's an
approved drug. Now to what Nole said, because it cracked
(18:03):
me up about how Dare came in and they brought
a briefcase full of drugs. Well, when I got home
the day that they did that at my school, my
dad's best friend was a coke dealer. My uncle was
a heroin dealer. Another uncle was a math dealer. And
(18:23):
when they heard about that, they instantly said, Oh, I
bet they were watching the kids for who recognized so
they'd know where to look later. Anyway, you guys, have
a great show.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well, no one in particular. Those are two very interesting points,
just to rehash really quickly, guys. I think the point
is maybe marijuana does cure cancer because it's going against
a placebo like all other drugs, and it may, at
least in some of these trials it does seem to
do better. Lots more recent w you needed on that front.
(19:01):
But the thing that was really interesting to me is
something I'd never thought about with those DARE presentations back
in the day. Could they have been surveilling the kids,
like for real, surveilling the kids to see if there's
anyone in their immediate friends or family group that has
these drugs that they're just showing them for ostensibly the
first time.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Yeah, it's a great point. No one in particular, perhaps
perhaps to the folks who who pitch that to you,
because I imagine it's very smart, and I imagine it was
not official policy, but in certain neighborhoods or municipalities, I
could totally see el Eos using that, using that procedure.
(19:41):
And you know, I say that as a proud winner
of several Dare Award essays. But I do also, for
the record, think they gave everybody an award at some point.
It just makes sense. I mean those also, weren't those
the kind of science project looking trifold cases? Weren't those
filled with replica drugs rather than actual you know, crack
(20:05):
cocaine or LSD, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I certainly hope.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
So I was looking at it, like, yeah, it's like
those like the food fake food the youse see a
Chinese restaurants sometimes, you know, it's kind of like that,
but like for cracking LSD.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, I was looking at them again just to actually
see like the ones that we probably saw growing up.
And I mean there's actual paraphernalia in there for sure, right,
like a broken spoon with some cotton in it, a
match book that's like half emptied, so that a couple
of roaches or whatever, could fit in there. It looks
(20:43):
like a fake poppy for sure. I don't know about
the rest anyway, just an interesting thought. I can't remember
if there were two officers, there were two? Dare people
there like during a presentation? Or if it was just one.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's usually three. McGruff is a cop in a costume?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Well but I mean, but even if there are two, right,
like one person giving the presentation, the other one watching
your eyes. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I don't know, maybe not, Maybe it's nothing.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
All right, Well, let's jump to our next caller, and
this one comes from Abyssle.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Hey, guys, the world sucks. So here's what's my interesting call.
You guys are aware of the abistle zone, right, it's
the portion of the ocean that's so dark that light
can't even penetrate that deep into the ocean. Well, that
is eighty three percent of the ocean no light, completely dark.
(21:46):
That eighty percent of the ocean accounts for sixty percent
of the planet's surface completely dark. Can't even get light there.
I don't know if you are aware. But the square
cube law, which is essentially the law that prevents animals
(22:07):
from growing infinitely large before they collapse under their own weight.
The square cube law does not apply under water. Interesting.
I just wanted to give you a little bit of
brightening information. I guess feel free to do it. That's
(22:27):
what you will. I'll remain anonymous. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yes, yes, I'm glad you chose this one, Matt. It
is It is interesting. Now people will argue with a
lot of validity that wild square cube does not apply
to the maritime creatures. Simply, the tremendous per inch square
(22:54):
pounds of pressure per square inch in the Abysto plane
and the lastack of nutrients severely impedes growth past a
certain threshold. But also scientists don't know a ton about
what's down there.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
That's just true, Yeah, very much so. That just the
square cube law, guys. Just I'm sure y'all are aware
of it, but I wasn't aware of it as much.
Looking through MIT describes it really well. If you think
about an ant, that ant has teeny tiny little legs,
and it doesn't it barely weighs anything. So those legs
(23:30):
have no problem supporting the weight of that ant, and
yet it can still lift like fifty times its weight
with those tiny little legs. But if you increase the
size of that ant at exact proportions, right, you don't
have to make it much larger before those legs can
no longer hold its weight because the volume. As the
(23:52):
area increases, the volume actually increases by a cube I think,
or a cube, the area only increases by basically a square.
Does that make sense? So like area times itself versus
area times itself times itself when it comes to the
volume of a thing, a structure or anything. So the
(24:13):
concept here that Abisle is pointing to is that since
you don't have legs and you're just swimming through a medium,
you can get pretty dang big. But then your point
is absolutely right that the pressures, surrounding pressures and lack
of nutrients do also put a hamper on that. But
there are giant things that we've discovered in the past
that we've talked about that are swimming around the oceans.
(24:36):
It's just whether or not they're hanging out in that
abyssal zone.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Got it.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
When I hear Abisole, I always think of the movie Mandy,
where like they're these like evil cultists. They were like
they're always talking about the abyssle plane, you know, which
is like some sort of infernal region where like demonic
creatures come from. And that's of those things in the
ocean look like, man, those ones with the lamps on
their heads and the big creepy like headlight look yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And people may also be thinking of the Abyss. We
do know, of course, that sea monsters, for lack of
a better term, are the stuff of legend. There are
quite likely many undiscovered creatures out there in the deep,
and we as a civilization are far more likely to
(25:23):
find them now than at any other point. But there's
a real there's a real window of time for that,
isn't there? Like, I don't know, there's a big question
about how much and how thoroughly humanity should explore the
abyssal plane. I think it's going to become more important.
I think it's worthwhile science. What do you guys think?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (25:43):
I mean, yeah, it's certainly an undiscovered there. Seems like
if there was going to be a place to discover
new things that would be there.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah, Well, what are we going to do down there?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
That's a good question too, you know, and find out.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But really, unless we're going down to drill more offshore
oil stuff or lay some pipe, you know, I don't
know what. I don't know what humanity is going to
do down there, Like as you said it, those tremendous
pressures and just the extremes that it would take to
get a human being down there to.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Do some stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Unfortunately, necessity being the mother of invention, it may be
a situation wherein humanity does have to live beneath water
because it's such an effective shield against radiation. Right, screw
up the surface world and then have civilization incentivized to
address some of those problems and build underwater habitats. But
(26:39):
they probably still even then, and an excellent job on
the percentages there, excellent job on the statistics man. Even then, abyssle,
there will not be there will not be a great
incentive to go too deep just because it's inconvenient. What
humanity would do in that situation is fine, the minimum
(27:00):
amount of depth needed to exist safely, and then they
would start building there.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, because ABIs will zone sixty six hundred feet down
to twenty thousand feet beneath the service of the ocean.
So that's like, yeah, that's nice and deep. I bet
we could have our sea lab somewhere. Our Sea Lab
twenty twenty or whatever was so hey, thanks so much
for calling in with that interesting observation there. Thank you
(27:30):
so much as well too, no one in particular. We'll
be right back with more messages from you.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
And we have returned with the third act of this
week's listener mail segment. Our first story is a true
crime story. May this this contains some disturbing stuff. As
a result, it may not be suitable for all listeners,
but we're going to do a quick cavalcade of this
and we're going to end with some nice letters from home.
(28:03):
So here is our first piece from Beeswax, not yours Beeswax.
As gentlemen, in case you haven't heard, there is a
fugitive who escaped custody in East Tennessee this week. His
story is full of negligence and incompetence on the part
of law enforcement or possibly a full blown conspiracy. It
began many years ago when he was a prominent businessman
(28:26):
in Johnson City and allegedly began drugging and will say
sexually assaulting women, including miners. Complaints to the Johnson City
Police Department went uninvestigated, leading to the termination of an
officer for attempting to investigate him. Leading to a federal
lawsuit against the police department itself. When this person became
(28:49):
a federal prosecutor. After the fed's investigation lawsuit, the police
chief resigned. Real charges were brought, but this suspect was
already on the run. You finally got located in North Carolina,
he got arrested, and this week he escaped the custody
of some Kentucky Sheriff's deputies who are transporting him on
(29:10):
behalf of the US Marshals listen to this part. Apparently
he removed his restraints and kicked out a van window
somehow without alerting the officers transporting him. And bees Wax
or not Yours Beeswax says, that's my best understanding of
the circumstances. Provide some local articles about the situation and
(29:31):
wants to see whether we can shed some additional light
on the story, ending with thanks for everything you do.
As you guys know, I love when we get email
in this situation, because it wrote back to not yours
bees Wax and got to say this story is incredibly disturbing.
(29:52):
The suspect's name is Sean Williams, and in so many episodes,
in so many strange news or listener mail segments. We
have talked at length about the prevalence of corruption in
some small towns, and while Johnson City is not necessarily
a small town, it's part of the Tri Cities area
(30:15):
there in northeast Tennessee. Reading through the articles that you sent, Beeswax,
it does very much look like someone in law enforcement
was aiding and abetting this guy's criminal career for quite
some time. I mean, have you guys got in a
chance to read some of the stuff that beeswax and in.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Hearing of it, yeah, looking at it now as well,
why does it seem like somebody was helping him?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Because he seems to have been a bit of a
big wheel in the local drug game. He also was
seems to have been somehow protected. That is, that is
my estimation, because there was retaliation against what one person,
in particular, Mikayla Evans, who attempted to bring charges against
(31:06):
this guy for sexual assaults, for transportation and sale of narcotics.
As soon as she started looking into this guy, she
became certain that he was under the protection of at
least some faction.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Of law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
And so Mikayla Evans is the person who starts interviewing
women who alleged that Williams has sexually assaulted them. This
is for the record, outside of the scope of her
normal duties, and she repeatedly asked different detectives, different members
(31:49):
of law enforcement to investigate Williams. She was saying, why
are you not pulling the trigger on this? Why are
you're not looking into it? And unfortunately it seems like
they buried the entire case. The problem with that too,
is that corruption aside that calls the escape story into
(32:11):
question too, Like if this guy had juice, how far
did his juice go?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You know, mm hmm man for doing some pretty horrible things,
Like it's hard to imagine that he's protected unless it
is that drug connection. Right, somehow there's a profit motive
that's moving through law enforcement because there are some horrific
things he's being charged with.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, and he is his whole name, Sean Christopher Williams.
He's fifty one years old. Just to be clear, folks,
people don't usually escape from prison transport vans. They're kind
of locked up. They're not your average Honda Odyssey, and
he's he So it's weird because then that would mean
there's interstate corruption right, or maybe he had enough money
(32:57):
that he was able as a free agent to payoff
people to look the other way while he escaped. He
has been he is known. Apparently, he's a known entity
and bad guy in this area.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
I have some.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Relations and acquaintances in the Tri Cities area. When I
asked some folks about it, they said, yeah, everybody liked
some folks who had been kind of in the formerly
in the drug scene. They had told me. People knew
about this guy for quite some time. And you know
how it is in the underground, like those things that
(33:33):
police end up investigating, especially with characters like this, they're
often well known by people of the scene beforehand. Would
you say that's fair? I don't want to overgeneralize.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
That seems like a fair assessment to me.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
So we're going to move on. We mainly want to
put the word out here because this guy has yet
to be apprehended. He went to ground, he's on the run.
The US Marshal Service is offering five thousand dollars in reward.
The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, the TBI is offering twenty
(34:07):
five hundred dollars. Now, in a recent conversation, we had
an interview segment with the creator of ear Witness, Beth Shelburne,
and in that we pointed out there can be a
lot of problems with offering a reward for a suspect,
but in this case we can argue it's different because
the identity of the suspect is known. They're not being
(34:29):
paid to accuse someone of something. They're being rewarded for
bringing an absolute monster to justice. The earliest charges I
found date back to two thousand and eight, which probably
means who is active way before then. So we want
to put the word out there, let us know if
you see anything, let us know whether you think this
guy is going to get away. It's a scary story,
(34:54):
but it's an important announcement and we don't want to
end on something too brutal, So be safe, take care
out there, folks. And I thought maybe we could go
to a bit of a palette cleanser with some comments
on the science of getting to the Moon, which we
spent a lot of time talking about earlier. This is
(35:15):
from Magnolia Mayhem. Magnolia says, I don't care if you
read this on air. I forget who it was who
bought this up. Late in the episode about the new
Space Race, but someone brought up having a single rocket
go to the moon and come back. The reason we
can't use this concept is because of something called the
rocket equation. It's a terrible little formula that I'm not
(35:35):
going to write out here. Instead, think of a rocket
and a payload. The rocket has one gallon of fuel
and a one pound payload parentheses metric get wrecked, All right, USA,
I got you, Magnolia. This fuel payload combination gets one
mile to the sky. What happens if you need to
get two pounds to the one mile line? Most people
(35:56):
go to a linear graph. One gallon gets you one
mile with one pound, so two pounds gets you two
pounds up right? Magnolia says no, because God hates rockets.
The extra fuel is itself a payload that the original
fuel has to lift. Because of this, the fuel you
need to get two pounds up to the same altitude
(36:18):
as one pound is going to be closer to four gallons,
and then continues to say, that's why rockets have to
be as light as possible. That's why these stages you
drop used up fuel tanks. You can work around the
rocket equation shed extra weight, and there's been a lot
of work around what's known as SSTOs single stage to orbits.
Magnolia says the closest we ever got to this was
(36:40):
the Space Shuttle, and that still dropped solid rocket boosters
and needed an extra pair of engines to get it
past dropping the orange tank. And then, Magnolia you recommend
a video on YouTube called Space Shuttle oms burn, where
you see two astronauts in a roll a duct tape
left hovering in the air when the shuttle fires its
(37:01):
oms to adjust its orbit. Those are those engines that
can move things around, and then talks a little bit
more about helium, also a little bit about the lunar Lander,
because the lunar Lander, this is one of our questions
in the episode, is only possible. The only way that
thing works is by having the skin of the lander
(37:21):
be as thin as tinfoil, leaving the landing part on
the moon, and having zero redundancy for the engine that
took them back up to command. And even just hearing
that is terrified, Right, That's a whole other kind of abyss.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
It almost makes it seem hard to believe that it
occurred successfully all those times.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
Eah.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah, you know, eat to their own.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
But also, you know, guys, it makes me think maybe
maybe it's like an RPG, like an open world role
playing game where you can advance to areas that are
way past your current level. You know, maybe we're like
a level twelve situation. Khruschev jokes aside. Maybe we're like
(38:02):
a level twelve situation, and Space or the Moon is
like level forty something. Right, maybe we are. Maybe we
need to get some groundwork done before we go to
the higher level enemies like Space at.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Vacuum, Like rockets were an accident. We weren't supposed to
discover rockets quite yet because we don't have the other
technology that we need.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, like we watched a YouTube hack, except instead of
getting a cool staff and elder ring, it was a
hack to get rockets before we were supposed to.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, Nazis, thanks a lot.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
Then you end up stuck on that part of Skyram
where the dragons just eat you alive, you know, instantly,
and and you don't have a save close enough, so
you just give up on the game.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Sorry, I was just describing what happened with me in.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Skyram, but it's a reasonable analogy.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
And this this also makes me think. I thought this
was a nice compliment to the idea of deep sea
an abyssle playing exploration, because humanity does need to explore,
right and no one in humanity really wants to be
told stay at home and fix stuff like fix your
house before you go on a trip. You know, Humanity
(39:15):
kind of needs to clean itself up before establishing stuff
on the Moon.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
That's one of the big philosophical divides. What do you
guys think should should human beings put a pause on
space travel and fix Earth's problems before continuing?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Or yes?
Speaker 5 (39:34):
But I mean, but it's also one of those questions
where you could weigh it like is it too late
for Earth? Should we be exploring the final Frontier? Because
that's where we're heading, you know, at least those of
us that can afford it. I'm sort of joking, but
not really. I mean, I don't think we're completely hopeless
here on Earth, but man, some of the stories that
we hear starts to feel.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Like that every now and oh gosh, an environmental waste
photographer in China just got arrested for going to jin Yang,
So people don't even some very powerful governments don't even
want us to talk about what's happening to the natural world.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Don't know either. Is it just like a Is it
a situation where we should just treat planets and ecosystems
as ultimately disposable, like move on to the Moon and
then move on to Mars and then just go somewhere
else when when we crap out on Mars.
Speaker 5 (40:28):
We certainly should have a more holistic approach to not
thinking like that. But past a certain point, it's like, well,
what other options do we I mean, you know, I
don't know. Man. People make some bad decisions who are
in power and have for many, many many years. We
can't tell them to just think of the planet like
it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (40:47):
Work like that.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
We had someone call in recently that said, the technology
itself is the thing. We talked about this before on
one of these But the technology itself is the virus
that wants to spread itself to the next planetary body.
Like the technology is it, It's not humans. Humanity is
meant to be here on this planet. This is where
we were born, this is where we thrive, where we
could thrive. But the technology itself is the thing pushing
(41:10):
us towards the stars, which again isn't an absolute thing.
It's just a concept, It's an idea. But man, if
it doesn't resonate with me, and you know, I feel
like we can probably do both things simultaneously. There's nothing
stopping us from exploring the Moon further and trying to
get to Mars and establishing stuff there. We just need
(41:32):
to decide somehow as a species that the money, the
currency thing that we have that funds everything on the
planet could and should be used for this kind of exploration,
rather than building more war toys and sending them across
oceans to hang out while proxy wars continued to be fought.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I've crossed oceans of time, shout out Bram Stoker's Dracula. Yeah,
I agree with you to a large degree. There, humanity
as midwife to an ultimately an ultimately galaxy spanning life
form that is not organic or is techno organic in nature,
(42:17):
the idea of I would I would also say I
agree with you that these goals space exploration and preservation
of Earth as it is now or was in the past.
They are not mutually exclusive. As a matter of fact,
I would posit the main thing stopping them is the
ideological system of economy, right, the belief that the ways
(42:39):
in which the world has decided to distribute, allocate, and
prioritize resources. I also think to your point, Noel, Earth
is going to be fine. Humanity. Maybe that's a fad,
but Earth will carry on, and perhaps a tiny fly
that was once raised simply to be a food source
(42:59):
in millions and millions of years, perhaps they will become
They will fill the role of current humans, and they
will have the same arguments. Should we go deep into
the ocean, We're flies, We're not built for that. Should
we go into space, Yeah, you know, I feel like
space would make more sense to flies. We're gonna end
(43:19):
on one letter from home. We're not going to read
the whole thing here, but we do want to give
a shout out. We got a very very wonderful piece
of correspondence from Captain Kabam, who is making a comic
book and has been leveraging some emergent technology to assist
(43:40):
them in the creation of that comic book. So we
just wanted to say checked it out. Great workman, Go
Captain Kabam. I don't know about you, guys. I don't
want to assume, but I believe we all love seeing
it when our fellow conspiracy realists send in creative works.
You know, we've got a kid's horror Cup podcast we're
going to check out. We've got a lot of paintings,
(44:02):
really cool stuff. So thank you, as always, so much
for everybody who took the time to join the show.
We're talking Magnolia, Mayhem, Captain Kabam, Beeswax, not yours, anonymous, abyssle,
no one in particular, and Brad if you want to
join their ranks, we would love to have you on
the show. Let us know what's on your mind, leads
(44:23):
for new episodes, things that you find to be strange,
news questions, clarifications, and of course, as always, hashtag no
pun left behind.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
It's ray. You can find us to the handle conspiracy
stuff on all the usual social media platforms with choice
x nay, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube on Instagram and TikTok
're conspiracy stuff show.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
I for one, hate it when you send in your
creative pursuits. Stop that, No, for sure, I'm sure you. Hey,
do you want to call us? Our number is one
eight three three st d WYTK. It's a phone system,
so you've got three minutes, give yourself a cool nickname,
and let us know if we can use your message
and voice on one of our listener mail episodes. If
(45:07):
you got more to say and they can fit in
that three minutes, why not instead send us a good
old fashioned email.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
We are conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Stuff they don't want you to know. Is a production
of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Stuff They Don't Want You To Know News
Hosts And Creators
Matt Frederick
Ben Bowlin
Noel Brown
Show Links
RSSStoreAboutLive ShowsPopular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.