October 26, 2023 • 45 mins
Is the US military using 'E-girls' to manipulate young men into joining the armed forces? What is life really like at Diego Garcia? Have you sent us a scary story? All of this and more in this week's listener mail segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
IHEARTRADI Hello, Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Nolan.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super guest producer Chandler the Golfman Maze a item. Most importantly, folks,
are you You are here? That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. It's one of our
favorite evenings of the week when we get to hear
from our fellow conspiracy realist all across the world and
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sometimes arguably beyond. We are going to get some letters
from home, a thing that we've been doing lately that
I quite like. We're going to learn a little bit
about the go Garcia. We're going to learn about an active,
very strange recruitment conspiracy on the part of Uncle Sam.
And before we do any of that, in deference to
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this most wonderful of seasons, we thought we'd start with
a horror story.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Oh boy, did we ever think that? Gosh, this one
comes from Beesel Bob, which is a great name I'm
gonna go with beel z Abob, but beesel Bob is
good too. I think some folks pronounce it beesel bub.
I believe right, the name for the devil lucifer I
scratch the dark one exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I think that's how this person pronounced it when they
called in the voicemail systems diesel Bub diesel Bob.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Alternatively, it's sometimes diesel Bub refers to Satan as a synonym,
and then sometimes it's a employee of see one of
the Seven Princesses. He's the he's the gluttony.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Guy, well see In any case, Bob is a fabulous
nickname for this listener who wrote into us with the
subject line the day I may have sold my soul
to the devil.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
WHOA.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And I don't know if you all have been watching
The Fall of the House of Usher on Netflix. N Yeah,
but it's very good and that is a somewhat central theme.
No spoilers, but I highly recommend checking it. I just
finished it last night, and I think it's one of
the best things Mike Flanagan's ever done. And also, if
you're into Edgar Allan Poe and like this kind of
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weird literature, weird fiction. It ticks all the boxes. It
does a really good job of weaving a lot of
the stories that you might be familiar with, but presenting
them in a way that's a little different than you
might expect. So let's jump right into this story on
how Beesel bub may have accidentally or on purpose sold
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their soul to the devil. Hello, STDWYITK, this is Beesel Bob.
Please do share my name and message on air if
you so choose. I have a real life horror story
for you, a story in which I may have met
the devil itself. As a guitarist, I was intrigued to
learn the story of the Delta Blues guitarist Robert Johnson.
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Johnson was rumored to have sold his soul to the
devil in exchange for musical ability. Johnson also practiced by
playing in the cemetery, as it was one of the
safest places for a black man to practice in the South.
It has also been said that to really learn to
play the blues, one must play for the dead. I
took the saying to heart and began practicing in cemeteries.
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That is until I discovered that the dead do not
appreciate being disturbed, oh Man. On one such occasion in Jacksonville, Florida,
as I began playing, I suddenly heard the noise of
stone grinding on stone and the snort of a pig. Immediately,
a voice said, leave what. I hurriedly packed my guitar
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and took off down the path, when all at once
a very loud boom reverberated throughout the cemetery, and I
felt a strong gust of wind push at my back,
as if to kick me out. On another night, in Portland, Oregon,
I sat underneath an old tree to play. Suddenly I
felt this instinctual urge that I should stand. When I
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turned around, I shined my flashlight at where I had
been seated, and to my horror, discovered the largest spider
I have ever seen was hanging by a single thread,
directly over where my head had been ewh Lastly, one night,
while walking in New Orleans, Louisiana, I fear that I
may have met the devil. I was walking towards the
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crossroads at which stood Lafayette Cemetery Number one. I was
reminded of Johnson's song Crossroads. I was singing and whistling
that song. As I approached, when I noticed a figure
in black standing at the crossroads without moving. This figure
was standing there as if waiting for me to approach. Unnerved,
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I crossed to the other side of the road and
headed towards the cemetery up on the left of the crossroads.
The figure remained glued.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
To the spot.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
As I drew closer, I noticed the figure was a
man wearing some kind of security uniform. He watched me
as I headed over to the cemetery. I thought to
myself that it was strange that this lone security guard
would be standing on an empty street corner so late
in the night. Realizing the cemetery was locked, I considered
jumping the iron fence, but the security guard was still
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staring at me. I settled for gazing pensively through the
bars into the shadowy cemetery. Suddenly I noticed the security
guard walking closely behind me. He said to me as
he passed behind me. Nice place to meditate, isn't it.
I replied that it was and turned around, but the
security guard had completely vanished. I rounded the corner of
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the cemetery and looked to where he might have gone,
but he was nowhere. In sight. I'm not sure if
by evoking the spirit of Robert Johnson I summoned the devil,
and if in doing so I inadvertently sold my soul.
I can note that my ability to play the blues
significantly improved after this encounter. I am a devoted follower
of the show and am forever grateful to you.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
WHOA, those are good. That's intense.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, thank you, Bee Sable. I love the way
you write.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Man agreed.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Also, I've got some good news for you if you
are if you do believe in the human soul. Typically
the way it has to be sold is it's a misconception.
You don't have to necessarily sign anything. A gentleman's agreement
can hold so as long as you didn't shake hands
or make the declarative statement in which you agreed to
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barter away your soul. It may be a situation where
you just got some encouragement, not a little at a
boy and you know who doesn't enjoy a good place
to meditate.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Interesting that the devil would be talking about meditating, though, right,
I don't really think of that as being a particularly
devilish pursuit.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
He's a very meditative dude. He meditated on why humans
were the new the new kid right, and then reached
his conclusion and set the universe in motion.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, one could argue that's that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
My theory is that Beesel Bob encountered a bunch of
crows dressed up as a security guard. And the reason
why security guard vanishes because the crows just like Dishurst.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That's an excellent theme from Fall of the House of Usher. Wait,
really well, I mean there's you know, there's a demonic
force that's sort of the main antagonist in the show
and is often depicted as a raven and also made
of like steam or can just vanish and disperse or
become a raven?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It will Oh it's po Yeah, you're right, Okay, it's.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Poe af no question about it. Yeah, it's so funny.
I mean, I really think that that show does such
a good job of weaving in a lot of modern concepts.
Like the family that is, the Usher family in the
show is sort of a Sackler family type situation where
they have done all of these horrible things knowingly and
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they're sort of being punished and or the debt is
coming due on this Devil's bargain they made. And you know, again,
I don't want to spoil anything for you, and it's
impossible to spoil having just read the poet stories. They're
just going to kind of enhance your enjoyment of the show.
But the tone of these stories from Beesel Bubs very
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much in line with the vibe of this show. So
I thank you. I think this is a great way
to kick off this episode as we march headlong into
spooky season.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
For sure, what's the weirdest thing you guys have done
at a cemetery?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Poop?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Kidding would be really disloding effort to that honest to
answer it doesn't have to be honest. I was. Let's
keep it honest. So the when I was living in Guatemala,
the part of it I was in, uh similar to
places like New Orleans. A lot of the a lot
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of the caskets, a lot of the grave sites are
elevated above the ground. And I went to I accidentally
crashed a party there. It was a pretty cool party too.
Was it a dead man's party and we were a
lot of dead people there? Is it a monster mash
type situation?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That was the That was That was probably one of
the strangest and honestly longest nights of my life. Yeah,
it was cool.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
To leave the rest of the imagination like that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What about you, Matt, I I attempted to contact my grandfather,
like he was cremated. So I don't know what the
rules say about contacting the dead after, you know, depending
on what happens to their body when they go. I
know it probably changes depending on the sure belief systems,
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but you know, I just it was like meditation, right,
a good place to meditate, and you know, he was
physically there so.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, and it does seem to be a place that's
primed with the kind of energy that maybe would be
conducive to such a contact.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oh that I also got lost in a cemetery for
several hours is very big.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
WHOA, some of them are huge, like a military cemetery
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Like no, because those is since we're audio, Matt is
illustrating the reality, which is a lot of those military
cemeteries are uniform, smaller tombstones, and this one was not that,
but it was. It was a wild time, especially when
the GPS stops working part way through and then you
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know it's already dark.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, so that's intense.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But tell us your favorite cemetary stories, folks, tell us
a special your spooky stories. We love those. Send in
your own accounts, and I just want to once again,
Diesel Bob, give you props. I really really enjoy the
way right there.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Agreed. I think we can make this one a bit
of a shorter one to kick us off. Let's take
a quick break here, a word from our sponsor, and
then come back with several more messages from you, and
we're back.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I remember why I recognized diesel Bob. I attempted to
call diesel Bob back and left a message, So apologies
to you, Beesel Bob for that, but also thank you
for writing in.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You can also just meet us at the crossroads later.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Hey, we'll be there dressed.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
In bone thugs and Harmony cosplay.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Just talking really fast about.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Busy bone for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, all right, so let's jump to the phone lines.
We've got a message here, guys. Some of these are silly,
and I'm doing it on purpose for us, just to
have a little fun. So here's our first message from
lunch Lady, whom I've also left a message with.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Hey, this is lunch Lady. I just want to say
I love the show. It's great. The only picture I
see is the Matt sexy as hell, and I just
appreciate that you being a pingenius, bend your appreciation for
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king great down South hip hop. That's all I wanted
to say. Because I'm listening to some juicy jay right
now and I thought of you. That's kind of odd.
It's kind of weird. Don't worry about it. It's not
a big deal. But you know your hip hop and
I like that smart man. Pat on back, pat on
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the butt. No, you get nothing. I'm sorry. No, you're
amazing too, your amazing father, and as a father with
a daughter, I love listening to you too. Thanks you guys.
I'm sorry. I've had a couple white wine apologist.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I love a good white wine.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Best white wine spirits or advertisement I've ever heard shout
out t CYJ Fellow Tennessee And yeah, that's that's so nice. Man.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm just made me so happy hearing from lunch lady
just saying just really kind things.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
That's what I call letters from home. You know, it
doesn't always have to be like a revelation, right or
you know the truth about the JFK assassination. We we
just like hearing from you guys.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Oh exactly, and you know what, We're gonna switch it
up a little bit. Let's hear one more from a Frame,
who is a constant caller on the voicemail system.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A Frame just has a tiny comment on something that
that happened in one of our episodes, and I am
trying very hard to remember which conversation it was and
I cannot, so I need you guys, your guys help.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You and I were talking about this off air earlier. Matt,
I don't think we can. Either of us were able
to remember.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I guess it's down to me.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
But just had to say that Ben's little joke about
not seeing any performance and hances your pants is just
about one of the funniest things I've ever heard. You
could just go for it, dude, just your pants totally can't.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
That's stopping you. I believe in you.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Good stuff, That's all.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I had to say that.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
My eyes are wet after that, and it was very funny.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Well.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
My pants are wet after that, as I just.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Pooped my pants because I'm wearing them and I just
did no.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I don't remember that either. But that's just the kind
of little nugget of wisdom that just flies through unnoticed
sometimes when we're hang.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's also I was thinking about this. It's also for
many people. Maybe we talked about this a little bit
too many. It's psychologically difficult for a lot of people
to poop their pants.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, I don't know if I could do it, Just like, okay,
I've decided you.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Could do it.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I believe in you.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
It's very very thoughtful.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
But also also my eyes are wet. It's such a
specific I haven't heard that phrase before.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, I've heard like cutting onions, I've heard people say that.
But but yeah, man, we believe in you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You know, it's all.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
It's like any other responsible recreation. You just want to
be conscious of your scene and setting, you know, read
the room, make sure everybody's going to be cool and supportive.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I guess I just love slash hate the idea of
intentionally pooping your pants. It just seems like a very nihilistic,
self defeating thing to do.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Well, you've been programmed to think that way for so long.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Maybe I need to open my mind, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Like how to how to astronauts use the toilet. But
what if you have to go when you're on an eva,
you know, like you're out there in the suit. What
if you're in a gilly suit as we talked about
earlier this week, and you can't move for days.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I'm just saying, is there the questions that keep keep
us up at nice See?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But yeah, if you poop your gilly suit though you
it's you're gonna give your position away, like for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
To bury the whole suit and then your naked.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Well, write in gilly suited enthusiasts, let us let us
know the secret. Also, we we know private investigators, pis
and long haul drivers too who have just said, look,
you can't be too proud. Sometimes you got to use
that empty Gator eight bottle coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Can baby seal it up?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Astronaut story you guys remember saving a while ago. Now,
the story of that that astronaut who got obsessed with
the dude or the diaper to go in. She didn't.
That kind of knowledge doesn't come from a vacuum.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
No, Well, it comes from the vacuum of space where
nobody can hear you poop your pants. In space apparently, guys.
I think I found it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I think it was a conversation we had about steroid
Olympics on Strange News.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Something you brought to the table, a Strange News segment,
and I think.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It was something about that you don't need performance in
dancing drugs to do that. All right, Well, hey, we've
got one more voicemail here we're going to listen to today,
and this one comes from Storm Raven.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Hey, it's up, guys, you can just call me Storm Raven.
I really don't care what you do with this. But
I was actually lucky enough to visit Diego Garcia. We
had moved some B fifty two's there because we were
bombing Iraq at the time. It seems like we're always
bombing someone, are threatening to bomb someone, you know, ye
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not AnyWho. Diego Garcia is actually long. It's got a
runway that's barely long enough to launch in land heavy bombers.
But I do mean barely. You miss the runway and
you're in the ocean. Just it's just that simple. But
the island is about half wild. It's about and it's
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about half wild, and it roughly follows the outline of
a footprint, it's weird. But the Middle Blue Lagoon, it
is a beautiful blue lagoon. But that lagoon is also
home to several merchant marine vessels which are gym packed
with war supplies, ready to say, oh, anywhere in a
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moment's notice, wherever the US wants to pick a fight.
But remember how I said the island is like half wild.
That's because that half is even restricted from those who
are stationed on the island. Now, I don't know why
it's restricted, but I've got a good hunch, and that
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hunch is probably sensitive to some countries reasons. So we'll
just leave it at that. But it it's a shame
people can't see it because I do mean that lagoon
is absolutely beautiful. So but you guys, take care of
yourself and keep doing what you're doing. Back.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I just thought that was a great message from somebody
who has experienced in that place that we just, you know,
we began talking about a little bit, and I think
we were all really interested in it. And I don't
know what do you guys.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Think, Yeah, God saved the king, right, because this is
a depending on who you asked, this is a territory
of the United Kingdom and I'm picking up what you're
putting down there storms. This is this sensitive. But again,
like we said, you know, they do have beautiful wildlife
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from what we hear. We've talked to other people who
have had the distinct pleasure you could say, of visiting
Diego Garcia. And there's something it makes me think of
the Merchant Marines. Do you guys know much about them?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Not much, not as much as I wish I did.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Do you know who runs them? No, you're not the
Department of Transportation?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Wow? So are the is it? It is a military though?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Right, it's not a government agency. It's not a military service.
It's a DOT.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
It's made of civilians, right, sort of like the Coast Guard,
and then it's like volunteer I guess, but like weapons ready, right.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
They you can go to the US Merchant Marine Academy.
They do carry supplies. I'm sure they have to have
security when they're going, like we're not. None of us
have been members of the Merchant Marines obviously, but I
didn't know the DOT even had a maritime administration.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's so nuts, But I guess it makes sense because
let's just refresh people where this is very south end
of the Maldives. Oh gosh, I don't know if I'll
be able to even describe it.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, it's it's right out like if you started India
the tip of India with a little kama that is
Sri Lanka, and then go down and slightly to the
left and you will be you'll be sort of in
the the mid northwest of the Indian Ocean.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, it's almost smack dab in the middle of all
of the land that surrounds the Indian Ocean there. So
that's a great strategic position even if you're dot right,
But you need to deploy a ship really quickly.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I'm just saying, pull up a map, look at the
Persian Gulf, look at your booty, the Red Sea, Gulf
of Eight, and Yemen. As you said, that is another
incredibly important point. I'm really glad that got brought up
because a lot of those things, a lot of the
US activities abroad are not classify, but they're just not
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as widely reported, and administrations might change, but that doesn't
mean the bomb stopped dropping for sure. Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Just to end on a light note here, guys, I
really enjoyed the phrasing of storm Raven in a lot
of places in that voicemail. The first one is the
concept of that the island is half wild, because it
made me feel like some kind of MTV spring break promo, like, man,
this island is half wild fully lagoons go wild? Yeah, yeah,
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it's this blue lagoon is so filled with merchant marine vessels.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And also just that phrasing that you picked up on
ben sensitive to some country's reasons.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, there's a nature reserve there too, Like a lot
of a lot of islands that are territories with a
primarily military interest, a lot of those places have amazing wildlife,
you know, assuming they're not the side of nuclear tests.
But even then life endures. It's amazing. It reminds me
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of Oh, I gotta do it. I have to do
the shout out. I probably shouldn't because because it gets
harder to find this book every time that we mentioned
on air, But one of my very favorite books, which
you might enjoy as well Storm Raven, is called Atlas
of Remote Islands by Judith Shelansky. If you can get
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the hardback copy, it's amazing. It's somewhere between an anthology,
somewhere between an Atlas. Of course, Diego Garcia makes an appearance,
but perhaps not in the way you would imagine. So
do check it out. And you know, if you have
had the fortune to travel two places like this, let
us know because a lot of people in the United States.
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It's weird. I can't remember what I was talking with
about this, but a lot of people in the United
States simply will not have the opportunity to travel because
it can be so prohibitively expensive unless you join the military. Right,
So we want to hear your stories about places you
think your fellow conspiracy realist should know more about, because
there's a lot out there.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Well, if you go to the website for the Merchant
Marines Institute that you were mentioning, the first selling point
is want to see the world, manes.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oh boy, Yeah, I see the world, probably some asterisks,
some specific parts.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Of the world. I just want to visit the United
Seamen's Service Center.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah, and I bet you do. Whatever that means.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, it's the club.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
They don't say what kind of sir.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I I just met whatever I meant by my tone.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Okay, okay, I get it, all right, all right, Well,
with that, we're gonna hear a word from our sponsor.
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Speaker 3 (25:07):
We've returned seamen like sperm guys, get it like we're
going to walk you through a casing body.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
No wait, I was talking about like the term for
people who are on the scene. We knew what you meant.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We knew what you Okay, we just refused to acknowledge it.
So the h this is uh, this is one of
our final pieces we got. We got an email that
was very interesting from our pal Brock, fellow conspiracy realist.
If you've heard the show, if you heard any of
our strange news or listener mail segments, then you have
heard Rock. Uh. Rock hipped us to something that I
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was very much not aware of, and I am I'm surprised.
This is why, this is why we love hearing from
you folks. So we know TikTok's a big thing, right.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
We know that.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Uh, we know that the US millitarya is a big thing.
To your point, Storm Raven and many other folks riding
into us. We also know if you look at the
numbers year over year. We know that for quite some
time the US arm Services have been struggling to meet
their recruitment quotas as more and more people become i
(26:20):
would say, disillusioned with the army or cynical about joining
and about what that greater purpose might be. Then we
see that fewer and fewer people are going into a
recruitment office or signing up. So how do you change that? Well,
according to some interesting research we read, as well as
(26:44):
a great little piece of from Upper Echelon on YouTube,
we have learned that the psyop wing of the Armed Services,
the US Army in particular, may have taken to TikTok
and leverage slashed weaponized e girls. Before we continue, for
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anybody not in the know, how would you describe an
e girl?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah? I remember this from years ago from my kid,
and you told me what an e girl was, and
I just remember they're kind of goffy internet, like perpetually online.
Are they the ones that have the certain water bottles
or is that Visco girls? I think that's Visco, Yeah,
that's that one. But then there was like the hydro flasks.
(27:30):
What is egirls? I'm sorry, I'm getting conned.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Is is there a sexual or sexuality.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Component similar to some luck bing videos. The idea it
could be a twitch streamer. It's now increasingly at someone
on TikTok, and the idea is like you're a cute See.
There are all sorts of specializations, but ultimately, at least
critics would say the idea is that you can encourage
a parasocial relationship as an egirl to get people to
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donate money to you to sharing your interest watching play
video game for instance, watching you do unpacking unboxing videos,
et cetera.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I was right about the goth element. Are there a
subcategory of the mal.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Goths or like waifu kind of ideas? So, this genre
of influencer and performer is enormously successful and a lot
of these people can make a quite a lucrative living here.
So in step with programs designed to recruit young gamers
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through video games like Call of Duty, which we mentioned earlier,
there's this allegation that Uncle Sam has weaponized some of
these so called e girls. One great article we found
about this, in addition to the YouTube video we mentioned earlier,
is from Dazed Digital. This is by gunsili Yo Sinka
(28:53):
and The title of it is how egir influencers are
trying to get gen Z into the military, and they
spend some time on someone named hey Lujan who has
three hundred and sixty three thousand TikTok followers as of
earlier this year and at the time this person's twenty
(29:14):
years old classic eagle thing posting what are called thirst traps, right,
but these thirst traps take place inside choppers or holding
assault rifles, holding military gear hashtags like Pew pew and
military curves. There will also be her plane with rebot
control tanks.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
These are oh my gosh. These are like strategically created
hashtags by somebody working in like social media marketing for
the governments.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well it sounds like guns and Ammo the pages of
like magazines back.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
In the Guns and Ammo after Doug.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well, I mean they would have like some of the ads,
not the actual articles in but the ads often have
that very.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Peny clad women sporting assaults a little soldier of fortune
to it as well, not counting the classified advertisements and
Soldier of fortune.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
But that time has passed this person. This person, who
is sometimes called the psyop Girl No Fooling, is a
self described psychological operation specialist in the US Army, and
people have started speculating been speculating for a long time
now that she is that her role in the Army
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is entirely to entice gen Z people largely male. We
would assume to sign up for the Army or the
Armed Services, some branch of it in hopes of meeting
the one because what do you think of what do
you think of the army romance? Right? Totally Number one
guest family future.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Every girl needs an e boy or whatever. No, that's
not It's much more complex and fluid than that. But wait,
so she claims to be a psyops expert, but it
turns out that she actually is the syops.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
She claims to be employed by the US Army, and
people are increasingly believing that there's also stuff like people
not stuff like Bailey Crespo, Kayla salinas uh and then
hashtag mill talk, m I L t O ky military
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TikTok uh and the more I thought about this, this
is mentioned in several articles as well. I think of
folks like remember bella Porch she came out with. She's
an influencer who came out with a song that went
viral which was build up thanks for beating me there.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I don't think I know this one.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
It's it's it's about it's about how you, as a woman,
you should not have to conform to romantic or sexual expectations.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Cool. Yeah, down with overall's message, I think anybody can support. However,
she served in the US Navy for four years before
she went viral on TikTok, which to people play in
the conspiracy Board Red String game. They think that this
may have been a precedent or a blueprint that's set
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for this idea of let's get to young potential future
armed Forces members through the power of sex appeal right
and through video games.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You know, it's funny because it seems like Uncle Sam
has been sort of late to the party with that
kind of stuff, sure, and that oftentimes their attempts at
like making the military seem cool have fallen quite flat.
So I guess they just finally maybe got some younger
folks on their marketing team that were like, you know,
what we ought to do is this. But also, TikTok
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is kind of notoribviously an enemy of information security, you know, right.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
That's what's interesting to me as well. And I think
that's a good point because TikTok is an app that
is compromised by the Chinese government pretty openly.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I don't think anybody at this point is going to
say that's not the case unless they work for the
government of China. But you see other countries doing this too.
Israel has done this with things like the gun Waifu
an influencer and IDF soldier. This is from the article
who Well, here's the thing I think at that point,
(33:36):
I think at that point our author on Day's Digital
might have a particular stance in the race. The most
important part to know is that to your point, other
countries are doing this a lot of times propaganda. If
it works in one situation, other organizations will attempt to
emulate it as quickly as possible, create a feedback loop, right,
(33:59):
which eventually creates to diminishing return, which is why people
move on to new syops. So there's there's a question here,
which is are we when when people agree to this
or when they allow this? Here is this line to children?
Is this like are you we selling them a full
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a bill of goods? Like if someone when you join
the army, right, when you join the armed forces. Even
if you don't meet your fantasy online girlfriend, you still
have to stay in.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Oh yeah, yeah. I think it's a crime if you
just leave, you abandon your post. I think it's called
going a wall or something, and it's punishable.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I think even if you had the mental fortitude to
purposely share your pants every day, they would keep you.
Unless you were that guy on that plane from a.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Few weeks back, they'd figure out something for you to do.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
They figure out something, Well, you'll likely the latrees. I
mean he's there all the time. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It just puts you going to see one thirty and
they make a little hole so you can just drop
bombs on the NI.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
But but so my question then, building off this great
point you make, Brock, it does seem there's something to it,
but we don't know whether it's some widespread, systematic or
systemic rather nefarious thing, or if it's just a couple
of forays into something that's working.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
So my question is is this dangerous?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I you know, you know what feels dangerous to me
the fact that there is a real thing called army syops.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh, come on, that's old beings.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
No, no, but that but think about that. Psyops is
the kind of it's a sci fi feeling thing, right,
psychological operations, but it's real. It's a real thing within
all of the branches of military for ages.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
And we talked about this recently. I think I forget
the ghost army tapes or whatever, like in Vietnam, where
they would play the sounds of ghosts of like the
viet Cong's like ancestors that would supposedly get them to
potentially retreat. They'd hang like speakers in the trees and stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I mean asswong or mutilating a corpse to look like
it was an Aswalang attack in the Philippines exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
But when psyops are involved at all, how do you
know what is a part of the syops syop and
what is not part of the syops sciops. You shared
a link for a training about a training video that
they put out to try and encourage people to join
their thing. Yeah, and it sounds insane, then.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, it's like when it's like when I can't remember
which intelligence agety it was. Maybe out in the United
Kingdom they put out a billboard with some riddles to solve.
That was like the application slash challenge Cicada.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Well, I mean it's not that different than I guess
the CIA now allowing people to not have to take
a drug test it in order to be a hacker
for them, you know, because it's just part of the culture.
You know, people don't want to work for the government
if they can't smoke their weed or whatever, you know.
And it's the same thing where they're trying to meet
people young people. Not to sound like a granddad where
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they are. Is it any more dishonest than those videos
we were talking about in the previous episode with the
you know, call of duty kind of action sort of
like think people rising from the swamps, and you know,
it looks like just wow, you want to be a hero.
I mean, it's all Michael Bay type stuff. That's that's
not honest. We know that's not what it's like.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
You said that. Yeah, let's point out our earlier episode. Look,
regardless of whether or not you support this way of
gaining the interest of young people who may not fully
realize the repercussions of their decisions, you should check out
our episode on the US military and how it interacts
with the entertainment industry in the in domestically and a
(37:57):
little bit a little bit abroad, still mainly in the endphere.
But the long and short of it is, the Armed
Services will give you a heck of a deal on
having US military appear in your films and your TV shows,
so long as you make them look good in the process. Yeah,
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that's great, you know what I mean. I think any
organization that had the money to do that would do so.
So it's just pr But those sie up groups are
the s battalions and specific they are real. And when
you see a video game company or a movie studio
wanting to use the military legally in media, then they're
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gonna talk with those guys the propagandas.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Don't they let them use like helicopters and stuff or
they are like supervised They obviously they're not just letting
people fly their helicopters, but it's stuff that would be
very expensive to either create or to cgi. It is
a good deal for the movie industry if they can
play nice, so long as they look good.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Well is the thing. Somebody recently, and I apologize I
can't remember who was, They were talking about the Top
Gun Maverick movie and how the enemy is never defined.
It's like an unknown enemy, and there were people online
attempting to figure out who the actual ideological enemy of
them of the American forces was.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Isn't the point though, that it doesn't matter that it's
just like leaving it up to the imagination and it
makes it a little more universally applicable or enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, I think so, But I imagine that's one of
the reasons that they're able to actually get access to
a lot of the planes and feature actual military toys.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Look, the idea is the lesson for those kind of films,
especially when they're shown abroad, as anyone.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Can get it.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Oh you know what I mean? Yeah, like, do you.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Really want to find it why we don't have free healthcare?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
It's because of these these five And I.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Know that's on cinema. But that being that alone, that
cynicism does not mean that is untrue. But also just
to be very fair, you know, the US armed forces
are one of the great guaranteurs of international trade, right
(40:20):
especially we look at this huge infrastructure across these massive oceans,
counting Diego Garcia as well. The force projection of the
United States enables global commerce to exist, and it's really
hard to argue against that, and I don't necessarily, you know,
there are all kinds of criticisms. We'd love to hear
(40:41):
your stories on this one, folks. There are all kinds
of criticisms of the at times misleading tactics that recruitment
offices have given. Have spungges, yeah, for ages, and you
know they themselves. If we have anybody who's worked in
recruitment listening tonight, you know that you yourself may have
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been subjected to some pretty crazy quotas that are very
difficult to meet at times. So there is that problem
there to maintain that recruitment. But then there's also the
question of what is ethical. You know, I just I
feel God, there are so many stereotypes about young folks.
(41:25):
I don't want to say kids who join the military instantly,
get married to their high school sweetheart, buy a Mustang
at twenty something percent interest, and then fast forward two
years and they're in deep water. And those stereotypes exist
because they there is some sand to them. I just
hate the idea of a kid signing up for something
(41:48):
that will affect them potentially for the rest of their
lives or potentially end their life, just because they saw
some TikTok videos that doesn't seem right.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Well, and this seems like kind of small tata as
compared to the ethical quandaries posed by military war machines
in general. Right, But like a lot of these kind
of oo wu type videos, these egirl type videos are
about sexualizing young people, you know, in a very potentially
(42:18):
icky way, but it's also about empowerment sometimes too, So
it's a it's a confusing fall of wax. But when
the government kind of weaponizes it and is trying to
target it, then they're capitalizing on something that is in
the wrong hands, quite you know, problematic.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
And we want this is where we will your help.
If you have worked in recruitment, if you've worked in
the armed forces, if you haven't, it doesn't matter. We
want to hear your opinions on the ethics, on the
nature of this conspiracy, whether it's overblown, whether there's sand
to it, and we love it. If you visit Army
times dot com, check out a article says, foreboding Army
(43:01):
syops recruitment video shows who's pulling the strings. This was
written in May of last year by Rachel Nostrand and
with that, like we cannot wait to hear from you
on this. With that, folks, we bid you at a
do and a happy almost Halloween. Shout out to Brock,
shout out to lunch Lady, shout out to Storm Raven,
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on a bit of a personal level, a dear friend
of mine and of the show has passed away unexpectedly,
Canadian Dean. There are many people listen to the show
(43:43):
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IHEARTRADI Hello, Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Nolan.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super guest producer Chandler the Golfman Maze a item. Most importantly, folks,
are you You are here? That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. It's one of our
favorite evenings of the week when we get to hear
from our fellow conspiracy realist all across the world and
(00:50):
sometimes arguably beyond. We are going to get some letters
from home, a thing that we've been doing lately that
I quite like. We're going to learn a little bit
about the go Garcia. We're going to learn about an active,
very strange recruitment conspiracy on the part of Uncle Sam.
And before we do any of that, in deference to
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this most wonderful of seasons, we thought we'd start with
a horror story.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Oh boy, did we ever think that? Gosh, this one
comes from Beesel Bob, which is a great name I'm
gonna go with beel z Abob, but beesel Bob is
good too. I think some folks pronounce it beesel bub.
I believe right, the name for the devil lucifer I
scratch the dark one exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I think that's how this person pronounced it when they
called in the voicemail systems diesel Bub diesel Bob.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Alternatively, it's sometimes diesel Bub refers to Satan as a synonym,
and then sometimes it's a employee of see one of
the Seven Princesses. He's the he's the gluttony.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Guy, well see In any case, Bob is a fabulous
nickname for this listener who wrote into us with the
subject line the day I may have sold my soul
to the devil.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
WHOA.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And I don't know if you all have been watching
The Fall of the House of Usher on Netflix. N Yeah,
but it's very good and that is a somewhat central theme.
No spoilers, but I highly recommend checking it. I just
finished it last night, and I think it's one of
the best things Mike Flanagan's ever done. And also, if
you're into Edgar Allan Poe and like this kind of
(02:29):
weird literature, weird fiction. It ticks all the boxes. It
does a really good job of weaving a lot of
the stories that you might be familiar with, but presenting
them in a way that's a little different than you
might expect. So let's jump right into this story on
how Beesel bub may have accidentally or on purpose sold
(02:49):
their soul to the devil. Hello, STDWYITK, this is Beesel Bob.
Please do share my name and message on air if
you so choose. I have a real life horror story
for you, a story in which I may have met
the devil itself. As a guitarist, I was intrigued to
learn the story of the Delta Blues guitarist Robert Johnson.
(03:11):
Johnson was rumored to have sold his soul to the
devil in exchange for musical ability. Johnson also practiced by
playing in the cemetery, as it was one of the
safest places for a black man to practice in the South.
It has also been said that to really learn to
play the blues, one must play for the dead. I
took the saying to heart and began practicing in cemeteries.
(03:34):
That is until I discovered that the dead do not
appreciate being disturbed, oh Man. On one such occasion in Jacksonville, Florida,
as I began playing, I suddenly heard the noise of
stone grinding on stone and the snort of a pig. Immediately,
a voice said, leave what. I hurriedly packed my guitar
(03:58):
and took off down the path, when all at once
a very loud boom reverberated throughout the cemetery, and I
felt a strong gust of wind push at my back,
as if to kick me out. On another night, in Portland, Oregon,
I sat underneath an old tree to play. Suddenly I
felt this instinctual urge that I should stand. When I
(04:21):
turned around, I shined my flashlight at where I had
been seated, and to my horror, discovered the largest spider
I have ever seen was hanging by a single thread,
directly over where my head had been ewh Lastly, one night,
while walking in New Orleans, Louisiana, I fear that I
may have met the devil. I was walking towards the
(04:43):
crossroads at which stood Lafayette Cemetery Number one. I was
reminded of Johnson's song Crossroads. I was singing and whistling
that song. As I approached, when I noticed a figure
in black standing at the crossroads without moving. This figure
was standing there as if waiting for me to approach. Unnerved,
(05:05):
I crossed to the other side of the road and
headed towards the cemetery up on the left of the crossroads.
The figure remained glued.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
To the spot.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
As I drew closer, I noticed the figure was a
man wearing some kind of security uniform. He watched me
as I headed over to the cemetery. I thought to
myself that it was strange that this lone security guard
would be standing on an empty street corner so late
in the night. Realizing the cemetery was locked, I considered
jumping the iron fence, but the security guard was still
(05:36):
staring at me. I settled for gazing pensively through the
bars into the shadowy cemetery. Suddenly I noticed the security
guard walking closely behind me. He said to me as
he passed behind me. Nice place to meditate, isn't it.
I replied that it was and turned around, but the
security guard had completely vanished. I rounded the corner of
(05:59):
the cemetery and looked to where he might have gone,
but he was nowhere. In sight. I'm not sure if
by evoking the spirit of Robert Johnson I summoned the devil,
and if in doing so I inadvertently sold my soul.
I can note that my ability to play the blues
significantly improved after this encounter. I am a devoted follower
of the show and am forever grateful to you.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
WHOA, those are good. That's intense.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, yeah, thank you, Bee Sable. I love the way
you write.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Man agreed.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Also, I've got some good news for you if you
are if you do believe in the human soul. Typically
the way it has to be sold is it's a misconception.
You don't have to necessarily sign anything. A gentleman's agreement
can hold so as long as you didn't shake hands
or make the declarative statement in which you agreed to
(06:52):
barter away your soul. It may be a situation where
you just got some encouragement, not a little at a
boy and you know who doesn't enjoy a good place
to meditate.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Interesting that the devil would be talking about meditating, though, right,
I don't really think of that as being a particularly
devilish pursuit.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
He's a very meditative dude. He meditated on why humans
were the new the new kid right, and then reached
his conclusion and set the universe in motion.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, one could argue that's that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
My theory is that Beesel Bob encountered a bunch of
crows dressed up as a security guard. And the reason
why security guard vanishes because the crows just like Dishurst.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
That's an excellent theme from Fall of the House of Usher. Wait,
really well, I mean there's you know, there's a demonic
force that's sort of the main antagonist in the show
and is often depicted as a raven and also made
of like steam or can just vanish and disperse or
become a raven?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It will Oh it's po Yeah, you're right, Okay, it's.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Poe af no question about it. Yeah, it's so funny.
I mean, I really think that that show does such
a good job of weaving in a lot of modern concepts.
Like the family that is, the Usher family in the
show is sort of a Sackler family type situation where
they have done all of these horrible things knowingly and
(08:23):
they're sort of being punished and or the debt is
coming due on this Devil's bargain they made. And you know, again,
I don't want to spoil anything for you, and it's
impossible to spoil having just read the poet stories. They're
just going to kind of enhance your enjoyment of the show.
But the tone of these stories from Beesel Bubs very
(08:44):
much in line with the vibe of this show. So
I thank you. I think this is a great way
to kick off this episode as we march headlong into
spooky season.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
For sure, what's the weirdest thing you guys have done
at a cemetery?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Poop?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Kidding would be really disloding effort to that honest to
answer it doesn't have to be honest. I was. Let's
keep it honest. So the when I was living in Guatemala,
the part of it I was in, uh similar to
places like New Orleans. A lot of the a lot
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of the caskets, a lot of the grave sites are
elevated above the ground. And I went to I accidentally
crashed a party there. It was a pretty cool party too.
Was it a dead man's party and we were a
lot of dead people there? Is it a monster mash
type situation?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
That was the That was That was probably one of
the strangest and honestly longest nights of my life. Yeah,
it was cool.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
To leave the rest of the imagination like that.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
What about you, Matt, I I attempted to contact my grandfather,
like he was cremated. So I don't know what the
rules say about contacting the dead after, you know, depending
on what happens to their body when they go. I
know it probably changes depending on the sure belief systems,
(10:04):
but you know, I just it was like meditation, right,
a good place to meditate, and you know, he was
physically there so.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Well, and it does seem to be a place that's
primed with the kind of energy that maybe would be
conducive to such a contact.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Oh that I also got lost in a cemetery for
several hours is very big.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
WHOA, some of them are huge, like a military cemetery
kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Like no, because those is since we're audio, Matt is
illustrating the reality, which is a lot of those military
cemeteries are uniform, smaller tombstones, and this one was not that,
but it was. It was a wild time, especially when
the GPS stops working part way through and then you
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know it's already dark.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, so that's intense.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
But tell us your favorite cemetary stories, folks, tell us
a special your spooky stories. We love those. Send in
your own accounts, and I just want to once again,
Diesel Bob, give you props. I really really enjoy the
way right there.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Agreed. I think we can make this one a bit
of a shorter one to kick us off. Let's take
a quick break here, a word from our sponsor, and
then come back with several more messages from you, and
we're back.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I remember why I recognized diesel Bob. I attempted to
call diesel Bob back and left a message, So apologies
to you, Beesel Bob for that, but also thank you
for writing in.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You can also just meet us at the crossroads later.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Hey, we'll be there dressed.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
In bone thugs and Harmony cosplay.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Just talking really fast about.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Busy bone for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, all right, so let's jump to the phone lines.
We've got a message here, guys. Some of these are silly,
and I'm doing it on purpose for us, just to
have a little fun. So here's our first message from
lunch Lady, whom I've also left a message with.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Hey, this is lunch Lady. I just want to say
I love the show. It's great. The only picture I
see is the Matt sexy as hell, and I just
appreciate that you being a pingenius, bend your appreciation for
(12:35):
king great down South hip hop. That's all I wanted
to say. Because I'm listening to some juicy jay right
now and I thought of you. That's kind of odd.
It's kind of weird. Don't worry about it. It's not
a big deal. But you know your hip hop and
I like that smart man. Pat on back, pat on
(13:00):
the butt. No, you get nothing. I'm sorry. No, you're
amazing too, your amazing father, and as a father with
a daughter, I love listening to you too. Thanks you guys.
I'm sorry. I've had a couple white wine apologist.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I love a good white wine.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Best white wine spirits or advertisement I've ever heard shout
out t CYJ Fellow Tennessee And yeah, that's that's so nice. Man.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm just made me so happy hearing from lunch lady
just saying just really kind things.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
That's what I call letters from home. You know, it
doesn't always have to be like a revelation, right or
you know the truth about the JFK assassination. We we
just like hearing from you guys.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Oh exactly, and you know what, We're gonna switch it
up a little bit. Let's hear one more from a Frame,
who is a constant caller on the voicemail system.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
A Frame just has a tiny comment on something that
that happened in one of our episodes, and I am
trying very hard to remember which conversation it was and
I cannot, so I need you guys, your guys help.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You and I were talking about this off air earlier. Matt,
I don't think we can. Either of us were able
to remember.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I guess it's down to me.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
But just had to say that Ben's little joke about
not seeing any performance and hances your pants is just
about one of the funniest things I've ever heard. You
could just go for it, dude, just your pants totally can't.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
That's stopping you. I believe in you.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Good stuff, That's all.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I had to say that.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
My eyes are wet after that, and it was very funny.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Well.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
My pants are wet after that, as I just.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Pooped my pants because I'm wearing them and I just
did no.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I don't remember that either. But that's just the kind
of little nugget of wisdom that just flies through unnoticed
sometimes when we're hang.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's also I was thinking about this. It's also for
many people. Maybe we talked about this a little bit
too many. It's psychologically difficult for a lot of people
to poop their pants.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, I don't know if I could do it, Just like, okay,
I've decided you.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Could do it.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I believe in you.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
It's very very thoughtful.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
But also also my eyes are wet. It's such a
specific I haven't heard that phrase before.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, I've heard like cutting onions, I've heard people say that.
But but yeah, man, we believe in you.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You know, it's all.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
It's like any other responsible recreation. You just want to
be conscious of your scene and setting, you know, read
the room, make sure everybody's going to be cool and supportive.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I guess I just love slash hate the idea of
intentionally pooping your pants. It just seems like a very nihilistic,
self defeating thing to do.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Well, you've been programmed to think that way for so long.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Maybe I need to open my mind, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Like how to how to astronauts use the toilet. But
what if you have to go when you're on an eva,
you know, like you're out there in the suit. What
if you're in a gilly suit as we talked about
earlier this week, and you can't move for days.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I'm just saying, is there the questions that keep keep
us up at nice See?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
But yeah, if you poop your gilly suit though you
it's you're gonna give your position away, like for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
To bury the whole suit and then your naked.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Well, write in gilly suited enthusiasts, let us let us
know the secret. Also, we we know private investigators, pis
and long haul drivers too who have just said, look,
you can't be too proud. Sometimes you got to use
that empty Gator eight bottle coffee.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Can baby seal it up?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Astronaut story you guys remember saving a while ago. Now,
the story of that that astronaut who got obsessed with
the dude or the diaper to go in. She didn't.
That kind of knowledge doesn't come from a vacuum.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
No, Well, it comes from the vacuum of space where
nobody can hear you poop your pants. In space apparently, guys.
I think I found it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I think it was a conversation we had about steroid
Olympics on Strange News.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Something you brought to the table, a Strange News segment,
and I think.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It was something about that you don't need performance in
dancing drugs to do that. All right, Well, hey, we've
got one more voicemail here we're going to listen to today,
and this one comes from Storm Raven.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Hey, it's up, guys, you can just call me Storm Raven.
I really don't care what you do with this. But
I was actually lucky enough to visit Diego Garcia. We
had moved some B fifty two's there because we were
bombing Iraq at the time. It seems like we're always
bombing someone, are threatening to bomb someone, you know, ye
(18:02):
not AnyWho. Diego Garcia is actually long. It's got a
runway that's barely long enough to launch in land heavy bombers.
But I do mean barely. You miss the runway and
you're in the ocean. Just it's just that simple. But
the island is about half wild. It's about and it's
(18:23):
about half wild, and it roughly follows the outline of
a footprint, it's weird. But the Middle Blue Lagoon, it
is a beautiful blue lagoon. But that lagoon is also
home to several merchant marine vessels which are gym packed
with war supplies, ready to say, oh, anywhere in a
(18:44):
moment's notice, wherever the US wants to pick a fight.
But remember how I said the island is like half wild.
That's because that half is even restricted from those who
are stationed on the island. Now, I don't know why
it's restricted, but I've got a good hunch, and that
(19:04):
hunch is probably sensitive to some countries reasons. So we'll
just leave it at that. But it it's a shame
people can't see it because I do mean that lagoon
is absolutely beautiful. So but you guys, take care of
yourself and keep doing what you're doing. Back.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I just thought that was a great message from somebody
who has experienced in that place that we just, you know,
we began talking about a little bit, and I think
we were all really interested in it. And I don't
know what do you guys.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Think, Yeah, God saved the king, right, because this is
a depending on who you asked, this is a territory
of the United Kingdom and I'm picking up what you're
putting down there storms. This is this sensitive. But again,
like we said, you know, they do have beautiful wildlife
(19:58):
from what we hear. We've talked to other people who
have had the distinct pleasure you could say, of visiting
Diego Garcia. And there's something it makes me think of
the Merchant Marines. Do you guys know much about them?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Not much, not as much as I wish I did.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Do you know who runs them? No, you're not the
Department of Transportation?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Wow? So are the is it? It is a military though?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Right, it's not a government agency. It's not a military service.
It's a DOT.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
It's made of civilians, right, sort of like the Coast Guard,
and then it's like volunteer I guess, but like weapons ready, right.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
They you can go to the US Merchant Marine Academy.
They do carry supplies. I'm sure they have to have
security when they're going, like we're not. None of us
have been members of the Merchant Marines obviously, but I
didn't know the DOT even had a maritime administration.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's so nuts, But I guess it makes sense because
let's just refresh people where this is very south end
of the Maldives. Oh gosh, I don't know if I'll
be able to even describe it.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, it's it's right out like if you started India
the tip of India with a little kama that is
Sri Lanka, and then go down and slightly to the
left and you will be you'll be sort of in
the the mid northwest of the Indian Ocean.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, it's almost smack dab in the middle of all
of the land that surrounds the Indian Ocean there. So
that's a great strategic position even if you're dot right,
But you need to deploy a ship really quickly.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I'm just saying, pull up a map, look at the
Persian Gulf, look at your booty, the Red Sea, Gulf
of Eight, and Yemen. As you said, that is another
incredibly important point. I'm really glad that got brought up
because a lot of those things, a lot of the
US activities abroad are not classify, but they're just not
(22:01):
as widely reported, and administrations might change, but that doesn't
mean the bomb stopped dropping for sure. Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Just to end on a light note here, guys, I
really enjoyed the phrasing of storm Raven in a lot
of places in that voicemail. The first one is the
concept of that the island is half wild, because it
made me feel like some kind of MTV spring break promo, like, man,
this island is half wild fully lagoons go wild? Yeah, yeah,
(22:35):
it's this blue lagoon is so filled with merchant marine vessels.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And also just that phrasing that you picked up on
ben sensitive to some country's reasons.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, there's a nature reserve there too, Like a lot
of a lot of islands that are territories with a
primarily military interest, a lot of those places have amazing wildlife,
you know, assuming they're not the side of nuclear tests.
But even then life endures. It's amazing. It reminds me
(23:08):
of Oh, I gotta do it. I have to do
the shout out. I probably shouldn't because because it gets
harder to find this book every time that we mentioned
on air, But one of my very favorite books, which
you might enjoy as well Storm Raven, is called Atlas
of Remote Islands by Judith Shelansky. If you can get
(23:28):
the hardback copy, it's amazing. It's somewhere between an anthology,
somewhere between an Atlas. Of course, Diego Garcia makes an appearance,
but perhaps not in the way you would imagine. So
do check it out. And you know, if you have
had the fortune to travel two places like this, let
us know because a lot of people in the United States.
(23:51):
It's weird. I can't remember what I was talking with
about this, but a lot of people in the United
States simply will not have the opportunity to travel because
it can be so prohibitively expensive unless you join the military. Right,
So we want to hear your stories about places you
think your fellow conspiracy realist should know more about, because
there's a lot out there.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Well, if you go to the website for the Merchant
Marines Institute that you were mentioning, the first selling point
is want to see the world, manes.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Oh boy, Yeah, I see the world, probably some asterisks,
some specific parts.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Of the world. I just want to visit the United
Seamen's Service Center.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah, and I bet you do. Whatever that means.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, it's the club.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
They don't say what kind of sir.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I I just met whatever I meant by my tone.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Okay, okay, I get it, all right, all right, Well,
with that, we're gonna hear a word from our sponsor.
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Speaker 3 (25:07):
We've returned seamen like sperm guys, get it like we're
going to walk you through a casing body.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
No wait, I was talking about like the term for
people who are on the scene. We knew what you meant.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We knew what you Okay, we just refused to acknowledge it.
So the h this is uh, this is one of
our final pieces we got. We got an email that
was very interesting from our pal Brock, fellow conspiracy realist.
If you've heard the show, if you heard any of
our strange news or listener mail segments, then you have
heard Rock. Uh. Rock hipped us to something that I
(25:45):
was very much not aware of, and I am I'm surprised.
This is why, this is why we love hearing from
you folks. So we know TikTok's a big thing, right.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
We know that.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Uh, we know that the US millitarya is a big thing.
To your point, Storm Raven and many other folks riding
into us. We also know if you look at the
numbers year over year. We know that for quite some
time the US arm Services have been struggling to meet
their recruitment quotas as more and more people become i
(26:20):
would say, disillusioned with the army or cynical about joining
and about what that greater purpose might be. Then we
see that fewer and fewer people are going into a
recruitment office or signing up. So how do you change that? Well,
according to some interesting research we read, as well as
(26:44):
a great little piece of from Upper Echelon on YouTube,
we have learned that the psyop wing of the Armed Services,
the US Army in particular, may have taken to TikTok
and leverage slashed weaponized e girls. Before we continue, for
(27:06):
anybody not in the know, how would you describe an
e girl?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah? I remember this from years ago from my kid,
and you told me what an e girl was, and
I just remember they're kind of goffy internet, like perpetually online.
Are they the ones that have the certain water bottles
or is that Visco girls? I think that's Visco, Yeah,
that's that one. But then there was like the hydro flasks.
(27:30):
What is egirls? I'm sorry, I'm getting conned.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Is is there a sexual or sexuality.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Component similar to some luck bing videos. The idea it
could be a twitch streamer. It's now increasingly at someone
on TikTok, and the idea is like you're a cute See.
There are all sorts of specializations, but ultimately, at least
critics would say the idea is that you can encourage
a parasocial relationship as an egirl to get people to
(27:57):
donate money to you to sharing your interest watching play
video game for instance, watching you do unpacking unboxing videos,
et cetera.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
I was right about the goth element. Are there a
subcategory of the mal.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Goths or like waifu kind of ideas? So, this genre
of influencer and performer is enormously successful and a lot
of these people can make a quite a lucrative living here.
So in step with programs designed to recruit young gamers
(28:30):
through video games like Call of Duty, which we mentioned earlier,
there's this allegation that Uncle Sam has weaponized some of
these so called e girls. One great article we found
about this, in addition to the YouTube video we mentioned earlier,
is from Dazed Digital. This is by gunsili Yo Sinka
(28:53):
and The title of it is how egir influencers are
trying to get gen Z into the military, and they
spend some time on someone named hey Lujan who has
three hundred and sixty three thousand TikTok followers as of
earlier this year and at the time this person's twenty
(29:14):
years old classic eagle thing posting what are called thirst traps, right,
but these thirst traps take place inside choppers or holding
assault rifles, holding military gear hashtags like Pew pew and
military curves. There will also be her plane with rebot
control tanks.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
These are oh my gosh. These are like strategically created
hashtags by somebody working in like social media marketing for
the governments.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well it sounds like guns and Ammo the pages of
like magazines back.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
In the Guns and Ammo after Doug.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Well, I mean they would have like some of the ads,
not the actual articles in but the ads often have
that very.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Peny clad women sporting assaults a little soldier of fortune
to it as well, not counting the classified advertisements and
Soldier of fortune.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
But that time has passed this person. This person, who
is sometimes called the psyop Girl No Fooling, is a
self described psychological operation specialist in the US Army, and
people have started speculating been speculating for a long time
now that she is that her role in the Army
(30:30):
is entirely to entice gen Z people largely male. We
would assume to sign up for the Army or the
Armed Services, some branch of it in hopes of meeting
the one because what do you think of what do
you think of the army romance? Right? Totally Number one
guest family future.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Every girl needs an e boy or whatever. No, that's
not It's much more complex and fluid than that. But wait,
so she claims to be a psyops expert, but it
turns out that she actually is the syops.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
She claims to be employed by the US Army, and
people are increasingly believing that there's also stuff like people
not stuff like Bailey Crespo, Kayla salinas uh and then
hashtag mill talk, m I L t O ky military
(31:24):
TikTok uh and the more I thought about this, this
is mentioned in several articles as well. I think of
folks like remember bella Porch she came out with. She's
an influencer who came out with a song that went
viral which was build up thanks for beating me there.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I don't think I know this one.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
It's it's it's about it's about how you, as a woman,
you should not have to conform to romantic or sexual expectations.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Cool. Yeah, down with overall's message, I think anybody can support. However,
she served in the US Navy for four years before
she went viral on TikTok, which to people play in
the conspiracy Board Red String game. They think that this
may have been a precedent or a blueprint that's set
(32:21):
for this idea of let's get to young potential future
armed Forces members through the power of sex appeal right
and through video games.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
You know, it's funny because it seems like Uncle Sam
has been sort of late to the party with that
kind of stuff, sure, and that oftentimes their attempts at
like making the military seem cool have fallen quite flat.
So I guess they just finally maybe got some younger
folks on their marketing team that were like, you know,
what we ought to do is this. But also, TikTok
(32:58):
is kind of notoribviously an enemy of information security, you know, right.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
That's what's interesting to me as well. And I think
that's a good point because TikTok is an app that
is compromised by the Chinese government pretty openly.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I don't think anybody at this point is going to
say that's not the case unless they work for the
government of China. But you see other countries doing this too.
Israel has done this with things like the gun Waifu
an influencer and IDF soldier. This is from the article
who Well, here's the thing I think at that point,
(33:36):
I think at that point our author on Day's Digital
might have a particular stance in the race. The most
important part to know is that to your point, other
countries are doing this a lot of times propaganda. If
it works in one situation, other organizations will attempt to
emulate it as quickly as possible, create a feedback loop, right,
(33:59):
which eventually creates to diminishing return, which is why people
move on to new syops. So there's there's a question here,
which is are we when when people agree to this
or when they allow this? Here is this line to children?
Is this like are you we selling them a full
(34:21):
a bill of goods? Like if someone when you join
the army, right, when you join the armed forces. Even
if you don't meet your fantasy online girlfriend, you still
have to stay in.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Oh yeah, yeah. I think it's a crime if you
just leave, you abandon your post. I think it's called
going a wall or something, and it's punishable.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I think even if you had the mental fortitude to
purposely share your pants every day, they would keep you.
Unless you were that guy on that plane from a.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Few weeks back, they'd figure out something for you to do.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
They figure out something, Well, you'll likely the latrees. I
mean he's there all the time. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
It just puts you going to see one thirty and
they make a little hole so you can just drop
bombs on the NI.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
But but so my question then, building off this great
point you make, Brock, it does seem there's something to it,
but we don't know whether it's some widespread, systematic or
systemic rather nefarious thing, or if it's just a couple
of forays into something that's working.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
So my question is is this dangerous?
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I you know, you know what feels dangerous to me
the fact that there is a real thing called army syops.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh, come on, that's old beings.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
No, no, but that but think about that. Psyops is
the kind of it's a sci fi feeling thing, right,
psychological operations, but it's real. It's a real thing within
all of the branches of military for ages.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
And we talked about this recently. I think I forget
the ghost army tapes or whatever, like in Vietnam, where
they would play the sounds of ghosts of like the
viet Cong's like ancestors that would supposedly get them to
potentially retreat. They'd hang like speakers in the trees and stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
I mean asswong or mutilating a corpse to look like
it was an Aswalang attack in the Philippines exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
But when psyops are involved at all, how do you
know what is a part of the syops syop and
what is not part of the syops sciops. You shared
a link for a training about a training video that
they put out to try and encourage people to join
their thing. Yeah, and it sounds insane, then.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Well, it's like when it's like when I can't remember
which intelligence agety it was. Maybe out in the United
Kingdom they put out a billboard with some riddles to solve.
That was like the application slash challenge Cicada.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Well, I mean it's not that different than I guess
the CIA now allowing people to not have to take
a drug test it in order to be a hacker
for them, you know, because it's just part of the culture.
You know, people don't want to work for the government
if they can't smoke their weed or whatever, you know.
And it's the same thing where they're trying to meet
people young people. Not to sound like a granddad where
(37:11):
they are. Is it any more dishonest than those videos
we were talking about in the previous episode with the
you know, call of duty kind of action sort of
like think people rising from the swamps, and you know,
it looks like just wow, you want to be a hero.
I mean, it's all Michael Bay type stuff. That's that's
not honest. We know that's not what it's like.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
You said that. Yeah, let's point out our earlier episode. Look,
regardless of whether or not you support this way of
gaining the interest of young people who may not fully
realize the repercussions of their decisions, you should check out
our episode on the US military and how it interacts
with the entertainment industry in the in domestically and a
(37:57):
little bit a little bit abroad, still mainly in the endphere.
But the long and short of it is, the Armed
Services will give you a heck of a deal on
having US military appear in your films and your TV shows,
so long as you make them look good in the process. Yeah,
(38:18):
that's great, you know what I mean. I think any
organization that had the money to do that would do so.
So it's just pr But those sie up groups are
the s battalions and specific they are real. And when
you see a video game company or a movie studio
wanting to use the military legally in media, then they're
(38:42):
gonna talk with those guys the propagandas.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Don't they let them use like helicopters and stuff or
they are like supervised They obviously they're not just letting
people fly their helicopters, but it's stuff that would be
very expensive to either create or to cgi. It is
a good deal for the movie industry if they can
play nice, so long as they look good.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Well is the thing. Somebody recently, and I apologize I
can't remember who was, They were talking about the Top
Gun Maverick movie and how the enemy is never defined.
It's like an unknown enemy, and there were people online
attempting to figure out who the actual ideological enemy of
them of the American forces was.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Isn't the point though, that it doesn't matter that it's
just like leaving it up to the imagination and it
makes it a little more universally applicable or enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, I think so, But I imagine that's one of
the reasons that they're able to actually get access to
a lot of the planes and feature actual military toys.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Look, the idea is the lesson for those kind of films,
especially when they're shown abroad, as anyone.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Can get it.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Oh you know what I mean? Yeah, like, do you.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Really want to find it why we don't have free healthcare?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
It's because of these these five And I.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Know that's on cinema. But that being that alone, that
cynicism does not mean that is untrue. But also just
to be very fair, you know, the US armed forces
are one of the great guaranteurs of international trade, right
(40:20):
especially we look at this huge infrastructure across these massive oceans,
counting Diego Garcia as well. The force projection of the
United States enables global commerce to exist, and it's really
hard to argue against that, and I don't necessarily, you know,
there are all kinds of criticisms. We'd love to hear
(40:41):
your stories on this one, folks. There are all kinds
of criticisms of the at times misleading tactics that recruitment
offices have given. Have spungges, yeah, for ages, and you
know they themselves. If we have anybody who's worked in
recruitment listening tonight, you know that you yourself may have
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been subjected to some pretty crazy quotas that are very
difficult to meet at times. So there is that problem
there to maintain that recruitment. But then there's also the
question of what is ethical. You know, I just I
feel God, there are so many stereotypes about young folks.
(41:25):
I don't want to say kids who join the military instantly,
get married to their high school sweetheart, buy a Mustang
at twenty something percent interest, and then fast forward two
years and they're in deep water. And those stereotypes exist
because they there is some sand to them. I just
hate the idea of a kid signing up for something
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that will affect them potentially for the rest of their
lives or potentially end their life, just because they saw
some TikTok videos that doesn't seem right.
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Well, and this seems like kind of small tata as
compared to the ethical quandaries posed by military war machines
in general. Right, But like a lot of these kind
of oo wu type videos, these egirl type videos are
about sexualizing young people, you know, in a very potentially
(42:18):
icky way, but it's also about empowerment sometimes too, So
it's a it's a confusing fall of wax. But when
the government kind of weaponizes it and is trying to
target it, then they're capitalizing on something that is in
the wrong hands, quite you know, problematic.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
And we want this is where we will your help.
If you have worked in recruitment, if you've worked in
the armed forces, if you haven't, it doesn't matter. We
want to hear your opinions on the ethics, on the
nature of this conspiracy, whether it's overblown, whether there's sand
to it, and we love it. If you visit Army
times dot com, check out a article says, foreboding Army
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syops recruitment video shows who's pulling the strings. This was
written in May of last year by Rachel Nostrand and
with that, like we cannot wait to hear from you
on this. With that, folks, we bid you at a
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