March 14, 2024 • 47 mins
Multiple Conspiracy Realists share their personal experiences with polio. PoodleCrab responds to the ongoing conversation about potassium. Concerned Citizen asks for more information about the Winchester Dam. All this and more in this week's listener mail segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noah.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
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end of the week as you are hearing this evening's program,
which means it's one of our favorite times of the week, folks.
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We get to share messages from you with our fellow listeners.
We're going to learn a little bit about potassium. We
got a lot of reactions that we're going to learn
a little bit about polio based on our recent episode
about the tainted polio incident. We are also going to
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have some letters from home, and we're going to talk
about the Winchester Damn. I think we decided off air, guys,
that we got so many emails, so many messages about potassium,
that we had to start there.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Right Ah, Yes, potassium, The Humble k On the periodic table.
And this message comes to us courtesy of the Humble
poodle Crab, which is a delightful nickname that apparently we
can call them. Hi, you can call me poodle Crab.
I have thought about writing it about potassium for the
past few months, but after Wow already, but after your
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most recent listener mail episode where the other listener talked
about it, I finally got around to writing it. About
six months or so ago, my doctor let me know
he was worried about my blood pressure. I was adamant
about not going on meds for high blood pressure if
I could help it. I started looking into alternatives and
realized the relationship between potassium, magnesium, and salt. As Nol stated,
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there are some people who need a low potassium diet,
and usually that is due to kidney disease. I started
eating a high potassium diet, but because potassium is weakened
by heat, and most foods that have it we eat cooked.
Let see here we go. I found it hard to
get enough in my diet, so I added potassium supplements
as well. I do take more than one pill per
day recommended. After several months of taking my potassium and
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magnesium supplements three times a day. I finally had a
good visit with my doctor and he's happy with my
blood pressure numbers. I am not a healthcare professional, but
I definitely think that the amount of people who it
would be adverse to take a higher supplement amount of
potassium should be rather low compared to the majority who
really need a larger amount. They should sell a higher
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milligram supplement. My personal opinion is that if we're all
low in potassium, we acquire more health issues and big
pharma can make more money off of drugs. I also
have another conspiracy you could look into that is related.
There is a gentleman named Frank Suarez who is Puerto Rican.
He wrote several books on metabolism that are available in
English and Spanish. He also has a YouTube channel called
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Metabolism Metabolismo tv appears. I think most of his videos
are in Spanish, but I'm pretty sure they have English
subtitles available. He has several where using nutrition and supplements,
he was able to make people better so they no
longer needed medications. Anyway, my conspiracy concerning him is that
he died a few years back. I believe I remember correctly.
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He fell off a balcony in his home. Could Big
Pharma have had him killed because he was helping people
get off meds? Thanks for reading my ramblings. Feel free
to use this on air if you want to be
listening watching from the very beginning. Love you, guys, A
handful of things to do unpack here. First of all,
I think it's interesting to note and I believe we
discussed as the bioavailability metabolism and also the way things
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are absorbed, and you know, the idea that cooking something
you know could potentially completely remove the potassium that gets
absorbed into your system. And it seems that Poodle Crab,
confirmed by their doctor, was able to affect some change
to you know, their their blood pressure numbers by this
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and this alone. And I always think it's interesting when
someone decides to go that route, a more holistic approach,
and then actually sees results. So I don't know, guys,
does that track for you that this could be done? Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Again, the one of the larger themes we have seen
in our correspondence recently concerns the very real fact that
there's not a silver bullet solution.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Every person is unique in this regard. We are not
medical professionals. But one thing that really stands out to
me here, Poodle is if I may call you Poodle,
Poodle Crab, one thing that stands out to me is
you mention of Frank Suarez. Frank Suarez does have a
website and as you mentioned, does have various works out
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there in the wild. In nineteen ninety eight he founded
something called Natural Slim and I'm wondering whether this has
a place in our upcoming episode on supplements.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, Metabolismo TV has eight point seven six million subscribers.
That's a lot of people who are paying attention to
what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, and Suarez struggled with obesity. Per his official bio,
he struggled with obesity since childhood. Tried numerous different diets
and they weren't working. So he researched the causes of
what is sometimes called slow metabolism and it led him
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to this concept of metabolic function in his book two
thousand and six. I think El Podera del Metabolismo is
a huge book for the folks who follow his insights.
It has been a life saver in their opinion, not
the dandy, but like save their lives.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's one of those things. You just gotta be careful
because there's like I haven't watched any of the videos yet.
You know, obviously it's going to require some research. But
when there are claims like all you have to do
is get your vitamins right and you can beat cancer,
it's just potentially dangerous, right.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It's tough, That's what I was asking.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, it's up there with are you having financial problems?
Have you tried not being poor? You know what I mean?
Like it's missing some steps often that kind of advice.
We're not talking about Suarez in general. We need to
do more research, Pudle Crab. But again to your point, Noe,
we had so much, We got so much incredible correspondence
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based on the original letter from our pal iron Man.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, and we're not also, I believe any of us
trying to say that that we don't believe that it
is possible to affect change in your health through just
diet and and and the right vitamins and and you know, minerals,
et cetera. And it would appear from Poodle crabs experience
personally firsthand that that is exactly what happened with them.
(07:22):
The case of Suarez is very interesting because not a
lot is known about him outside of his own channels
and what he put out there on the internet. The
book I believe, achieved roughly five million sales, and yet
nobody knows what his birthday was, and a lot of
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details about his background are a bit shadowy. I don't
mean shadowy in terms of that it's like sinister, I
just mean, you know, unknown. So that is very interesting
for a for a best selling author of that degree.
And not a lot of details are out there as
well about the investigation and his death, at least upon
you know, kind of a cursory search. But I do
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think this is definitely appropriate to include in the episode
coming up on supplements, no question.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Also, Suarez me have a space in our continuing series
on the mysterious deaths of inventors and scientists, which again unfortunately,
will be a continuing series.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Absolutely, And since we did mention that we got quite
a few emails about supplements and the potassium, I thought
we might read another one that's sort of a counter
to Poodle Crab's message. This one coming from Pepper and Hello,
I've been loving and listening to your show for about
a year now. This is my second email by the way,
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so this is the test to see if you do
read them all. Wait wink, Well here we go tests past.
It feels a little like a conspiracy just saying okay,
well it's conspiracy salt. I previously wrote about haunted airplanes
and ems, but that's neither here nor there. I had
to immediately respond to the show before I even finished
the entire episode, because I generally worry about the health
implications of the letter written into you guys regarding the
(09:06):
use of potassium. First, I will say I have worked
as a nurse and in critical care for about ten
years now. I'm not a doctor, so there is your disclaimer,
but I am working on my nursing doctorate. Either way,
I know a thing or two about electrolytes. Let me
start by saying that your body is designed to conserve
and highly regulate your potassium in a very narrow and
safe range. This would be the reason that you cannot
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buy over the counter potassium in more than ten milligrams,
because it can and would be fatal without the oversight
of a physician. In the hospital, we can only administer
potassium at a rate of ten me eq per hour safely.
Otherwise we run the risk of fatal cardiac arrhythmias. If
you have a medical condition that requires supplementation, a doctor
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will prescribe one for you at a higher dosage and
you will likely require blood work to monitor this. Common
reasons would be medications that prevent your kidneys from retaining
those potassium levels so tightly. People who tend to have
lower potassium levels are likely due to a dietary deficiency,
which is the best and safest way for your body
to get potassium. This can be found in bananas, leafy greens, beans, avocados, tomatoes,
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all things you don't have to cook, root, vegetables, zucchini, eggplant,
et cetera. I fear it is likely that people are
not getting enough fresh fruits and vegetables. Additionally, magnesium and
potassium have a type of symbiotic relationship, as our previous
emailer mentioned, meaning if your magnesium is low, there is
a good chance that your potassium will be low, and
magnesium supplements are much safer and easier to get over
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the counter. Bottom line, if you're concerned about your electrolytes,
get them checked out. There are even places that you
can go without a doctor's order to have them checked,
I would have to say there's probably no conspiracy to
prevent people from getting potassium. It is, in fact, this
way to prevent people from accidentally putting themselves into a
cardiac arrests. There you go. Also, they attached to an
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email with a picture of their blind death dog with eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yes, thank you for sending by the Yeah, yeah, thank
you everyone who's been sending the the pet photos. I
love the eyebrow work there. And I do want to
point out for anybody who hears the phrase blind deaf dog,
let's remember that the primary way canines encounter the world
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is through the sense of smell. So we know this
very lucky pooch is very lucky to have a human
like you in their lives.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's right. Absolutely a couple of things here. The eyebrows
are amazing, by the way. I've been wanting to try
to I have a white dog as well, and she's
got expressive eyebrows. I really think that's the way to go.
I'm drinking a coffee right now, guys, that has two hundred,
at least, according to the packaging, two hundred and sixty
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eight milligrams of potassium in it, and I don't know why.
I'm looking at the ingredients list and there's no like, oh,
there's potassium in here.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
It's already flavoring to it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
There's a small Yeah, it's a it's a rich mocha,
black rifle thing, some energy drink. It's like energy coffee, right,
so it's got extra stuff in it.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Black rifle is a flavor.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No, that's the company makes it.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Okay, sounds dangerous.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But we're not sponsored by them.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
By the way, watch out for those cardiac arrhythmias.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Matt Well, I know like that. It genuinely worries me.
It says it's six percent of my you know, intake
of potassium on a daily basis, and I just don't
know enough about it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I do want to point out that I had to
google something and I was a little unclear as to
what it meant, so I went with milligrams. But the
actual term that uh Pepper and using the email was
m e q, which is a medical term. It's an
expression of the number of grams of a medication contained
in one millilter of a normal solution. Okay, so ten
milligrams might actually be off, but it seems that that
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was what they were getting.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Okay, Oh hey, there was another message. We don't have
to read the whole message, but there's a message from
I believe it's Baron Eaton himself talking about the prime
energy drink in hydration drinks that Logan Paul is putting
out right now, first of his name, Logan of the Paul's,
and just the amount of potassium that's contained in those drinks.
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Interesting stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And again shout out to shout out to iron Man.
I wanted to mention in our previous listener mail conversation
he had something in the title that was like beans,
but not the way that you think. So it sounds
like one of the primary things we're hearing from our
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fellow listeners is that eating the right sorts of foods
can function as preventative medicine in this case. So it
turns out stick Man from dead Press was right, Let
your food be your medicine, guys.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So sorry, just through er straight ten me eqs is
seven hundred and forty milligrams. Oh so you're fine, Matt,
You're fine.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Okay, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Maybe we should even I don't know we got there. Sorry,
not a medical professional here. First time i'd seen that term,
but I did find a converter, so yes, it is different.
Em Eq's is his own measurement, and seven hundred and
forty milligrams is ten em eq's Okay, you're you're not
gonna You're gonna be okay, Matt, You're gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Oh wait, but according to Baron, Eaton Prime Sports drink
has seven hundred milligrams of potassium in it, which is
like right on it's right on the line.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It does appear to be right on the line.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yes, get on it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Well, thanks to Poodle Crab and Pepper and for those
very interesting emails that you know, sort of different perspectives,
but they also had some some interesting overlap. So let's
take a quick break here a word from our sponsor,
and then come back with more messages from you.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
All right, we've returned, and we are going to Oregon
for a little story from a concerned citizen.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Hey guys, it's me again, calling from central Oregon, most
central southern Oregon. Anyway, let's call me concerned citizens today.
So there is a dam just north of Roseburg, Oregon,
on the north on Quar River called the Winchester Dams.
I think that's right, it's other Winchester or Winston. It's
got to be Winchester Winston South anyway. So it's pretty
much like air and rocky bitch. Levels is bad for
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the drinking water that we are supplied here in Rothbert,
and nobody is doing anything about it. As far as
I can tell. The dam was placed illegally. It does
not off of power generation, It does not have a
fish ladder. It is simply just basically a puddle for
rich people on the river to have for their seaboats.
Then that's it. There is no public access to it whatsoever.
It's just a rich neighborhood with a pool that is
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made out of the river basically. And I was hoping
that you could shine a little bit of light on
that for me, because I should not do digging near
as well as you guys. Thank you so much for
your time. And Happy New Year.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Hey, Happy New Year to you. That was sent to
us in like early February. Guys, so happy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Happy Halloween as well. I love that too.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Merry Christmas, happy, So thank you so much. Concerned citizen guys,
we're traveling to Rossberg. I think that's how you pronounce
their concerned citizen I would have said Roseberg because that's
how it's spelled. Uh. And we're talking about the Umpquah
River that kind of snakes through this area. And you
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can look at the it is the Winchester damn by
the way, and you you can look at a picture
of this from up above via the Google Maps and
you can see where the dam exists and where kind
of the neighborhood area is that concerned citizen is referencing there.
Did a little searching just to try and figure out
what's going on with this dam. The first first thing
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I came across was an AP news article from early
October last year, twenty twenty three. I'll just give you
the title so you can look it up on your own.
Oregon seeks twenty seven million for damn repair it says
resulted in mass death of Pacific lamprey fish. I think, guys,
I think we heard about this just in our news
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explorations that we do every week, but we never really talked.
We didn't talk about it wasn't a huge thing. It's
a fish die off. Those are unfortunately common now. This
one had to do with repairs to this Winchester Dam
that were being done by a couple of different organizations,
the Winchester Water Control District and then under that terra
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firma Foundation Repair. Who are actually that's the company that's
actually performing repairs, and I think it's called Dowel Dowl LLC,
an organization that was going to work to basically get
the lamprey fish out of harm's way when this dam
or part of the river had to be drained in
order to make repairs to the dam. Now, when you
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hear that in your head, what does that look like?
That means the dam itself where the water stops right
where the river stops up against that dam. They had
to stop water from flowing down the river to a
certain extent in order to actually go in and repair
the foundation of that dam itself. And at least according
to this suit that you can find, it's I think
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it's from right around that same time. October sixth, twenty
twenty three, there is a claim from the State of Oregon,
via the Department of Fish and Wildlife and the State
Fish and Wildlife Commission, of twenty seven point five eighty
five million dollars against these organizations for not properly getting
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those Pacific lamprey fish out of harms way before draining
the thing that has nothing to do with water quality,
concerned citizen, So sorry, that is not what you're calling
in about. That's just the first thing we noticed, because
this dam itself has been looked at with some pretty
heavy scrutiny. And in that article, I'm just gonna read
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this statement because this is how the dam is described
by Claire Rush, who wrote that article for AP News.
Quote built in eighteen ninety on the North Umpqua River.
Winchester Dam is a former hydropower plant that is now
privately owned by the water district's residents. So the neighborhood, right,
the concerned citizens talking about, going back to the quote,
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who largely use it for water sports and recreation, according
to this complaint again by the state of Oregon. So
they're at least confirming that that's what the dam is,
who uses it, and you know why it still exists, right,
So then we jump down just to gosh, like less
than twenty days later, there is a piece written in
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Oregon Public Broadcasting by Alex I think baumhar Ar sow
you would say that this is about the very thing
concernsys and was talking about that same water district is
facing or was facing fines for water violations, so basically
sending unclean water down the river because of whatever is
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occurring on the other side of that dam where the
residents live. Right, guys, do you have that article up. Yes,
Let's go through it just quickly, because I haven't looked
at this too deeply. Let's just find out what the
heck is actually going on. Is it going back to
those same repairs basically that they sent chemicals or silt
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or something down the river?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Right? Yeah. The issue is if you have ever been
around a construction site, they get really messy really quick.
That's just the nature of how construction works and the
concerns here. I'm going also, Matt to some folks at
a place called waterwatch dot org who have made some
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comments on this. The dam repairs are controversial because locals
feel the folks repair of the dam have not followed
the established standard operating procedure and as such, it didn't
just compromise the passage and safety of fish or marine wildlife,
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but it also compromised the drinking water. And waterwatch dot
org fellow conspiracy realist, you can tell by the title
they have a certain perspective. Yeah, waterwatch dot org is
arguing that the local community provided information on how to
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conduct these repairs well in advance to preserve the quality
of drinking water and the quality of I don't want
to say, quality of life, the chance of existence for
these fish, and that they were roundly, consistently, continually ignored
even though they did everything right in terms of speaking
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with the appropriate authorities and so on.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Dude. Well, according to Oregon Public Broadcasting, the two main
things are the reason that there is a fine of
one hundred and thirty four thousand additional dollars for basically
water quality was because the companies performing those repairs quote
allowed concrete to spill into the river, which is probably
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not great. And they placed what they're saying are unpermitted
mats made of heavy truck tires in the river. And
we've talked about this before, the dangers of that, the
specific types of rubber and metal that go together to
create a modern tire, and how when that stuff breaks
down just on streets, right on roads, especially highways, that
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pollutes the water table. As again, just imagine the particulate
matter of tires slowly, very very slowly wearing down That's
why you got to replace your tires right when they
go you go in and check them because you're actually
losing rubber on the road. That could be potentially really
dangerous just sitting in a river's waterways.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It reminds me of a few years back during my
car stuff days, we looked into this very well intentioned
mission to save coral reefs by setting up used tires
as a sculpture for them to grow on. Spoiler, it
did not work well, and I feel like also Matt.
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At this point, we probably want to share with everyone
a description of the Pacific lamb prey. This does not
look like a trout. It does not look like a salmon.
It looks like the worms from Dune. It looks like
a very Kawhi powe version of the worms from Dune,
or this Venusian sandworms beetlejuice. These guys are not winning
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fish beauty contest, but no, they are an important part
of the ecosystem. They do deserve to exist. Just want
to give you a warning, a heads up, folks. If
you're playing along at home and you heard you heard
concerned citizen in Matt mentioned lamb preis gird yourself be ready.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, they don't.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Look like they belong on earth, but they do.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And they are pretty tiny. It's it's kind of like
an eel and a fish together with some kind of
face hugger situation.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
They'll get you, they'll get you.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Well, there are many of them are parasitic. I believe
the Pacific lamp prey is parasitic. There's there's like one
species in Oregon that is not. You know, they're really interesting. Oh,
they function the way we know salmon function. Remember we
talked about that salmon sucker whatever the thing was this.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Salmon they ca Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
This damn doesn't have anything like that for these lampreys
or the salmon that exist on that river that are
wont to get back up the river to spawn. But
they can't. Well, and that's not good. So that needs
to change for sure. Oh what was the Oh, good goodness,
there was one other thing I wanted to talk about
with this With these guys. They are kind of tiny
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and weird, looking like almost like worms that way you
describe it ben not a sand worm, but just an
actual worm. They just look really weird. You can see
pictures of a lot of them dying or expired in
the river bed when those repairs were occurring.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Terrible.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, it doesn't seem like something how do I put this,
It doesn't seem like something that most people would be
concerned about.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Right. True, they're also though they do have a big
part in Native American ceremonies and folklore. Like they're they
do matter, right, even things that I don't know if
anybody listening this evening is thinking, I know the most
beautiful fish, or if you have had a hierarchy in
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your head, the land pray may not meet it. But
again they do have they do have a right to exist.
And our word for the day, I suppose would be
anadromas or anadromus, which is just the marine life forms
that are required to migrate to exist. And if you
set up it's kind of like the land bridges that
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have been built over interstates and state roads. If you
interrupt that passage of life, then you are fuzeing with
the larger ecosystem in a way that humans do not
fully understand. There is no political bias in saying that.
That is just absolutely true. In the land bridge example,
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what the humans did was they said, hey, where a
lot of mammals specifically are going to die because they
cannot move through their natural range without getting hit by
a semitruck or a tractor trailer. Uh you know, or
like hot headed, fast and furious camaro I don't know.
So they built these They built these natural esque land
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bridges over the roads, and that solved the problem. It
seems that it should be standard operating procedure for human
made dams to have something like that for fish, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
No, that makes that makes total sense. I think it's
something that should occur. Let's make it happen, y'all. H
slash the what was it called the Winchester Water Control District?
Come on, guys, is.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
That our new Is that our new beef for the week.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
No, we don't know enough about it. We were sent
a message and we're looking ato it for the first time.
Oh can I do a shout out for another podcast
really quickly? Guys not affiliated with us.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
In anyways please.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Of course, I am obsessed with and have blown through
every episode in existence of a show called We're Here
to Help. It's uh, it's Gareth Reynolds and Jake Johnson.
Gareth Reynolds aka Fit Aaron Paul If you guys ever
hear that. I'm saying that on purpose, and it is.
(28:08):
It's an advice show, like a call in advice show
that is tremendously entertaining. And hats off to those guys
and to Kevin who's their producer. Hats off to them
for just making a splendidly entertaining show.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And it's not related to the two thousand and seven
comedy We're here now.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, this is just two guys who occasionally have guests
on and give advice to random callers. But the cool
thing about the show is that, like early on, you'll
hear them give advice to one person, right, and then
like ten episodes later, that same person calls back in
to update on how the thing is going. So you
get this experience of like just a journey you're taking
(28:52):
with everybody who's a part of the show. It's splendid.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
We also have to say it's not all bad news
in terms of the existence of fish, right. We know
that there are like I saw something that just about
a week ago where also in Oregon, not Central Oregon,
Eastern Oregon, they had their first salmon spawn in like
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three decades.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, So these these things sound maybe weird and obscure
and municipal or maybe tree huggish, but they do matter.
It is important to stick up for the wildlife in
your neck of the global woods.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, and for the water quality.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Oh yeah, also the humans. So I always forget to
add that part. Yeah, done too.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, I mean everybody's got to use that water, including
the lamp rays.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
All right, Well that's it for now, Thanks so much,
concerned citizen. We'll be right back with more messages from you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Hello. Everyone. Quick note before we proceed with the last
part of this week's listener mail segment, we are going
to explore correspondence we received related to our earlier episode
on tainted polio vaccinations. After we recorded this episode, we
learned that the heroic Paul Alexander passed away on March twelfth.
(30:24):
We're playing the episode as we recorded it before his demise,
and our thoughts go out to his family and friends.
Thank you so much. We now resume our regular show
and we have returned with some messages from you. First
things first, folks, thank you to everyone who tuned in
(30:45):
on our episode about tainted polio. It is a heartbreaking
chapter of American history, and as we said earlier in
that episode, history itself is always close than it might
look in your textbooks and in your rear view mirror.
So we thought we would share, uh, some excerpts from
(31:07):
many of our fellow conspiracy realists who wrote in with
their own experiences regarding polio. We want to go first
to our pal Jake, who says in part first off,
Osama bin Laden, personally, I'm glad he's gone. I would
like to share an innert hot take. Yeah, we were
(31:31):
worried about that.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Hold stands out there that on a couple of levels.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Noel, that was very well done.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I oh yeah, it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Also, I remember, you know, for any pro bin Laden
folks in the audience, I'll take the hit. I was
the one who said, I think he's a bit of
a pill. Also, glad he's gone, Jake, Team Jake on that,
Jake wanted to share an interview from another podcast that
he listens to quite a bit. Again, not affiliated with us,
(32:07):
but we want to give credit where it's due. Jake
is telling us about the Sean Ryan Show. Episode twenty
seven has Rob O'Neill from Seal Team six and the
name of the episode is the man who killed Ben Lawton,
So we haven't done an entire episode yet on the
(32:30):
circumstances surrounding the death of obl You can hear, I
think at different times in our past. You can hear
us take a couple shots at the official story, and
maybe there's an episode in the future. But Jake says
interesting bits and pieces here. You don't really hear about
the media or Hollywood. This podcast, Sean Ryans, has interviews
(32:55):
with ex military types that would make you think, okay,
just another military Harry interview show. Yet it delves into
a bunch of topics ranging from psychedelic treatments, UFO and UAP,
human trafficking, remote viewing, and more so, if you, as
Matt said earlier, we don't restrict ourselves to shouting out
(33:17):
shows that are on our network or that work with us.
We shout out shows that we think are worth your time.
Here's what Jake says about polio quote. Secondly, polio Obviously,
there is an increasing division between those four vaccines and
against vaccines, with the COVID vaccine at the forefront. There
(33:37):
are people out there, myself included, that are definitely four vaccines.
Childhood travel, requirements, et cetera, but are against the COVID
vaccines and are being swept into the evil anti vaxxer category.
All that being said, I firmly believe we all have
to do our own research and decide what is best
(33:59):
for our own health and that of our families. The
Cutter pharmaceutical story brought up something I read a few
years ago that raised the hair on my back about
an oral polio vaccine that was being developed in the
late fifties. And here is a returning indirect guest. Jake
(34:19):
pointed out a book we talked about in the past,
The River, A Journey to the Source of HIV by
Edward Hooper. Remember this, we talked about this a few
years ago. We read the book too.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You read the book.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
We know about the book. It is an interesting read.
It's one that I think we want to hear more
people respond to because in this book, Hooper lays out
what you could call a conspiracy theory, and it's made
in good faith, and it made enough of a splash
(34:55):
that scientists looked back at the theory. As Jake note,
it is considered largely disproven, But the question is is
it disproven for real? Or is it a cover up?
We want your opinions. Just going to roll that one
out to the audience.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
But do you guys.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Remember hearing this theory about the propagation of AIDS like
a tainted vaccine?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Uh? Yes, it's it's weird because I remember we encountered it.
I'm talking about vaccines is just weird nowadays. It's just
a weird subject of any vaccine in general. Right, And
this concept, I felt like we didn't see it proven
from the book, but I don't know that. I wasn't convinced.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
But same, same, same. However, we are not medical professionals,
as we always say in these conversations, So let us
know what you think about this book. Thank you to
Jake for writing in here. We have another thing and
an interesting care evolution from a returning guest, our guest
(36:04):
who now goes by the conversant coyote.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Oh was the original?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Originally this coyote was stoned Stone. Okay, he'll stop talking,
so conversant and he says, greetings, voices from the void.
I'm sure you've gotten a few emails about this, but
just in case you didn't, I wanted to pass it
on to you after listening to your episode on polio,
I found myself a little shocked you didn't mention Paul Alexander,
(36:34):
who contracted polio in nineteen fifty two and has needed
to use an iron lung ever since. He is now
an attorney in Texas and his story really brings home
this disease to the modern day. Here's a link to
a story about him, and I hope you all find
it as interesting as I did. And our now conversant
(36:57):
coyote says, excellent piece in the gard Lady and by
Linda Rodriguez McRobbie called the man in the iron lung,
And with our conversation about tane and polio vaccines, we're
call we did mention the iron lung, and I think
we were asking each other, you know, is this a
quality of life question? Right? Do you have to be
(37:20):
in an iron lung for the entirety of your existence?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
That's right? We didn't quite, I think fully know. And
then the way it's reported oftentimes does seem like it's
you're isolated in that environment. But it does appear from
several first hand accounts that we got the email and
other sources that you can just do a couple hours
a day or even a week.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, And it's a type of what's called a negative
pressure ventilator. It's a mechanical respirator. And to your point, Noel,
I was wondering if it's similar to dialysis treatment, right, Like,
you're not always hooked to a dialysis machine if you
are undergoing dialysis, but you do have to go in regularly.
(38:04):
It looks like the argument is that the use of
iron lungs today is largely obsolete because there have been
improvements in respiration breathing therapies. However, during the COVID nineteen pandemic,
and I didn't know this, there was a moment of
(38:24):
re emergent interest in using iron lungs as a cheap
substitute for ventilators because so many people needed them.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I didn't know it either, And I'm thankful that we
are not currently using iron lungs and ventilators. But please
do check out that Guardian story. We have one more.
We had so much response to the story about the
polio the cutter incident, right, and here's one last one
(38:57):
from Grace, And this is one that I think meant
a lot to all of us, and hopefully to those
of us listening at home too high stuff. They don't
want you to know, writes Grace. I'm a thirty two
year old polio survivor and I'd love to chat more
about the polio episode and how important vaccines are to
keep polio at bay. Grace has shared with us her
(39:21):
own and it's totally okay to see her name on
ericause she has shared with us a piece she wrote
at voicesfo Vaccines dot org. You can read that. You
can find it easily, just search on your browser choice
Grace Voices for Vaccines. I'm a polio survivor. I don't
(39:42):
want you to get it. And in this we see
again that history is much closer than the textbooks make
it appear. I'll just give us the very beginning of
this and let's discuss, Grace writes. In July twenty twenty two,
an unvaccinated twenty year old in Rock County, New York
was diagnosed with paralytic polio, a disease that's almost eradicated.
(40:06):
Then they ask how did this happen to polio's survivors
like me? It was only a matter of when, not if.
With misinformation regarding healthcare and vaccines skyrocketing, and then Grace continues,
I'm thirty years old. I contracted polio in nineteen ninety
two in India, shortly after I was adopted and raised
(40:29):
in Saint Louis, Missouri by a phenomenal and supportive family.
Despite having great insurance and access to world class medical care,
polio is not an easy ride. One in two hundred
polio infections are paralytic, and mine was one of them. Jeez,
it goes on. The stats are solid. Grace is an
(40:52):
awesome person. Grace is also bringing up, I think something
that it's easy for us to forget in the modern day,
which is just because you're not hearing about something in
a headline, just because it's not all over social media,
that doesn't mean it's gone. These things are out there.
(41:13):
They're very real. And the reason we bring this up,
similar to the potassium debate, We're hearing a lot of
very well written, very well reasoned, sometimes contradictory correspondence about
polio and indeed about the nature of vaccines in general.
So I was hoping that we could make space real quick.
(41:37):
Do you guys have reactions to this, like, would you
if you contracted polio or something. Would you go to
an iron lung if you had to? What would be
your decision? Wow, just the small talk, just the light questions.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Well, I'm no expert, so I would. I guess I
would do my own research, as we always recommend to doing,
and I would pair that with the advice of medical
professionals and see where I landed. If it seemed like
something that would benefit me long term, and I didn't
it didn't, like you said, Ben, completely plummet my quality
(42:15):
of life, then yeah, I think I would do it.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Well.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Going back to that Guardian article the man in the
Iron Lung, this person contracted polio a long time ago.
He's now seventy four years old as of three years ago,
so he has seventy seven now, And isn't he Isn't
he in an attorney? Yes, in Texas, So I mean
cares about that iron lung. Just following Paul's footsteps, you
(42:40):
good to go, Paul Alexander. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Get the law on your side, get your degree.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Well, I mean, but yeah, there are images of him
when he was first written about, when he was a
child and in an iron lung, of him painting with
his mouth, using you know, holding the paintbrush with his
mouth and making incredible art. I think in the end,
it's how how strong are you mentally right with anything
like this? And and if you're If you are, if
(43:08):
you can find it within yourself to fight and keep
moving forward, then you know the physical stuff's going to
affect you the way it does, and you just decide
how you let that affect you.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Right, what is your support network to?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Oh, hug, that's huge.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
That is actually a fundamental ingredient in what we call
blue zones. Blue zones are the parts of human civilization
wherein people have a much higher chance of living past
one hundred. Uh there's there are only I think two
in the US. One is in California and one is
weirdly enough, in New Jersey. Yeah, no offense to our
(43:46):
listeners in New Jersey for me saying weirdly enough.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
But but hey, just to go back to Grace's story too. Yes,
you know she's shared. She's out there sharing her story
with places like the Shriner's Hospital and stuff, and she
is taking that adversity that she's faced and turning it
into something super positive the same way Paul did.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
So, I love.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I agree with that. Yeah, and I think that's an
excellent point because both Paul and Grace, by raising visibility
have been actively saving lives. You can never discount that, right,
And let's maybe end our polio conversation for now with
a quote directly from you, Grace, and thank you again
(44:28):
so much for your advocacy and for sharing her story.
Grace writes, Misinformation is why a twenty year old was
diagnosed with polio in twenty twenty two. Misinformation is why
hundreds of thousands unnecessarily died of COVID instead of being vaccinated.
Misinformation will continue to disable and kill people as long
(44:52):
as it remains unchecked. It's something to think about, and
we wanted to say that there is, uh, there's much
more to discuss regarding polio, regarding the concept of vaccination
in general. We look forward to hearing from you, fellow
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We get to share messages from you with our fellow listeners.
We're going to learn a little bit about potassium. We
got a lot of reactions that we're going to learn
a little bit about polio based on our recent episode
about the tainted polio incident. We are also going to
(01:11):
have some letters from home, and we're going to talk
about the Winchester Damn. I think we decided off air, guys,
that we got so many emails, so many messages about potassium,
that we had to start there.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Right Ah, Yes, potassium, The Humble k On the periodic table.
And this message comes to us courtesy of the Humble
poodle Crab, which is a delightful nickname that apparently we
can call them. Hi, you can call me poodle Crab.
I have thought about writing it about potassium for the
past few months, but after Wow already, but after your
(01:48):
most recent listener mail episode where the other listener talked
about it, I finally got around to writing it. About
six months or so ago, my doctor let me know
he was worried about my blood pressure. I was adamant
about not going on meds for high blood pressure if
I could help it. I started looking into alternatives and
realized the relationship between potassium, magnesium, and salt. As Nol stated,
(02:09):
there are some people who need a low potassium diet,
and usually that is due to kidney disease. I started
eating a high potassium diet, but because potassium is weakened
by heat, and most foods that have it we eat cooked.
Let see here we go. I found it hard to
get enough in my diet, so I added potassium supplements
as well. I do take more than one pill per
day recommended. After several months of taking my potassium and
(02:34):
magnesium supplements three times a day. I finally had a
good visit with my doctor and he's happy with my
blood pressure numbers. I am not a healthcare professional, but
I definitely think that the amount of people who it
would be adverse to take a higher supplement amount of
potassium should be rather low compared to the majority who
really need a larger amount. They should sell a higher
(02:55):
milligram supplement. My personal opinion is that if we're all
low in potassium, we acquire more health issues and big
pharma can make more money off of drugs. I also
have another conspiracy you could look into that is related.
There is a gentleman named Frank Suarez who is Puerto Rican.
He wrote several books on metabolism that are available in
English and Spanish. He also has a YouTube channel called
(03:17):
Metabolism Metabolismo tv appears. I think most of his videos
are in Spanish, but I'm pretty sure they have English
subtitles available. He has several where using nutrition and supplements,
he was able to make people better so they no
longer needed medications. Anyway, my conspiracy concerning him is that
he died a few years back. I believe I remember correctly.
(03:38):
He fell off a balcony in his home. Could Big
Pharma have had him killed because he was helping people
get off meds? Thanks for reading my ramblings. Feel free
to use this on air if you want to be
listening watching from the very beginning. Love you, guys, A
handful of things to do unpack here. First of all,
I think it's interesting to note and I believe we
discussed as the bioavailability metabolism and also the way things
(04:02):
are absorbed, and you know, the idea that cooking something
you know could potentially completely remove the potassium that gets
absorbed into your system. And it seems that Poodle Crab,
confirmed by their doctor, was able to affect some change
to you know, their their blood pressure numbers by this
(04:22):
and this alone. And I always think it's interesting when
someone decides to go that route, a more holistic approach,
and then actually sees results. So I don't know, guys,
does that track for you that this could be done? Yes?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Again, the one of the larger themes we have seen
in our correspondence recently concerns the very real fact that
there's not a silver bullet solution.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Every person is unique in this regard. We are not
medical professionals. But one thing that really stands out to
me here, Poodle is if I may call you Poodle,
Poodle Crab, one thing that stands out to me is
you mention of Frank Suarez. Frank Suarez does have a
website and as you mentioned, does have various works out
(05:14):
there in the wild. In nineteen ninety eight he founded
something called Natural Slim and I'm wondering whether this has
a place in our upcoming episode on supplements.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, Metabolismo TV has eight point seven six million subscribers.
That's a lot of people who are paying attention to
what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, and Suarez struggled with obesity. Per his official bio,
he struggled with obesity since childhood. Tried numerous different diets
and they weren't working. So he researched the causes of
what is sometimes called slow metabolism and it led him
(05:56):
to this concept of metabolic function in his book two
thousand and six. I think El Podera del Metabolismo is
a huge book for the folks who follow his insights.
It has been a life saver in their opinion, not
the dandy, but like save their lives.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's one of those things. You just gotta be careful
because there's like I haven't watched any of the videos yet.
You know, obviously it's going to require some research. But
when there are claims like all you have to do
is get your vitamins right and you can beat cancer,
it's just potentially dangerous, right.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
It's tough, That's what I was asking.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, it's up there with are you having financial problems?
Have you tried not being poor? You know what I mean?
Like it's missing some steps often that kind of advice.
We're not talking about Suarez in general. We need to
do more research, Pudle Crab. But again to your point, Noe,
we had so much, We got so much incredible correspondence
(06:58):
based on the original letter from our pal iron Man.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, and we're not also, I believe any of us
trying to say that that we don't believe that it
is possible to affect change in your health through just
diet and and and the right vitamins and and you know, minerals,
et cetera. And it would appear from Poodle crabs experience
personally firsthand that that is exactly what happened with them.
(07:22):
The case of Suarez is very interesting because not a
lot is known about him outside of his own channels
and what he put out there on the internet. The
book I believe, achieved roughly five million sales, and yet
nobody knows what his birthday was, and a lot of
(07:43):
details about his background are a bit shadowy. I don't
mean shadowy in terms of that it's like sinister, I
just mean, you know, unknown. So that is very interesting
for a for a best selling author of that degree.
And not a lot of details are out there as
well about the investigation and his death, at least upon
you know, kind of a cursory search. But I do
(08:04):
think this is definitely appropriate to include in the episode
coming up on supplements, no question.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Also, Suarez me have a space in our continuing series
on the mysterious deaths of inventors and scientists, which again unfortunately,
will be a continuing series.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Absolutely, And since we did mention that we got quite
a few emails about supplements and the potassium, I thought
we might read another one that's sort of a counter
to Poodle Crab's message. This one coming from Pepper and Hello,
I've been loving and listening to your show for about
a year now. This is my second email by the way,
(08:43):
so this is the test to see if you do
read them all. Wait wink, Well here we go tests past.
It feels a little like a conspiracy just saying okay,
well it's conspiracy salt. I previously wrote about haunted airplanes
and ems, but that's neither here nor there. I had
to immediately respond to the show before I even finished
the entire episode, because I generally worry about the health
implications of the letter written into you guys regarding the
(09:06):
use of potassium. First, I will say I have worked
as a nurse and in critical care for about ten
years now. I'm not a doctor, so there is your disclaimer,
but I am working on my nursing doctorate. Either way,
I know a thing or two about electrolytes. Let me
start by saying that your body is designed to conserve
and highly regulate your potassium in a very narrow and
safe range. This would be the reason that you cannot
(09:29):
buy over the counter potassium in more than ten milligrams,
because it can and would be fatal without the oversight
of a physician. In the hospital, we can only administer
potassium at a rate of ten me eq per hour safely.
Otherwise we run the risk of fatal cardiac arrhythmias. If
you have a medical condition that requires supplementation, a doctor
(09:50):
will prescribe one for you at a higher dosage and
you will likely require blood work to monitor this. Common
reasons would be medications that prevent your kidneys from retaining
those potassium levels so tightly. People who tend to have
lower potassium levels are likely due to a dietary deficiency,
which is the best and safest way for your body
to get potassium. This can be found in bananas, leafy greens, beans, avocados, tomatoes,
(10:15):
all things you don't have to cook, root, vegetables, zucchini, eggplant,
et cetera. I fear it is likely that people are
not getting enough fresh fruits and vegetables. Additionally, magnesium and
potassium have a type of symbiotic relationship, as our previous
emailer mentioned, meaning if your magnesium is low, there is
a good chance that your potassium will be low, and
magnesium supplements are much safer and easier to get over
(10:38):
the counter. Bottom line, if you're concerned about your electrolytes,
get them checked out. There are even places that you
can go without a doctor's order to have them checked,
I would have to say there's probably no conspiracy to
prevent people from getting potassium. It is, in fact, this
way to prevent people from accidentally putting themselves into a
cardiac arrests. There you go. Also, they attached to an
(10:58):
email with a picture of their blind death dog with eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yes, thank you for sending by the Yeah, yeah, thank
you everyone who's been sending the the pet photos. I
love the eyebrow work there. And I do want to
point out for anybody who hears the phrase blind deaf dog,
let's remember that the primary way canines encounter the world
(11:26):
is through the sense of smell. So we know this
very lucky pooch is very lucky to have a human
like you in their lives.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That's right. Absolutely a couple of things here. The eyebrows
are amazing, by the way. I've been wanting to try
to I have a white dog as well, and she's
got expressive eyebrows. I really think that's the way to go.
I'm drinking a coffee right now, guys, that has two hundred,
at least, according to the packaging, two hundred and sixty
(11:55):
eight milligrams of potassium in it, and I don't know why.
I'm looking at the ingredients list and there's no like, oh,
there's potassium in here.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
It's already flavoring to it.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
There's a small Yeah, it's a it's a rich mocha,
black rifle thing, some energy drink. It's like energy coffee, right,
so it's got extra stuff in it.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Black rifle is a flavor.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No, that's the company makes it.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Okay, sounds dangerous.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But we're not sponsored by them.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
By the way, watch out for those cardiac arrhythmias.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Matt Well, I know like that. It genuinely worries me.
It says it's six percent of my you know, intake
of potassium on a daily basis, and I just don't
know enough about it.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
I do want to point out that I had to
google something and I was a little unclear as to
what it meant, so I went with milligrams. But the
actual term that uh Pepper and using the email was
m e q, which is a medical term. It's an
expression of the number of grams of a medication contained
in one millilter of a normal solution. Okay, so ten
milligrams might actually be off, but it seems that that
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was what they were getting.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Okay, Oh hey, there was another message. We don't have
to read the whole message, but there's a message from
I believe it's Baron Eaton himself talking about the prime
energy drink in hydration drinks that Logan Paul is putting
out right now, first of his name, Logan of the Paul's,
and just the amount of potassium that's contained in those drinks.
(13:22):
Interesting stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
And again shout out to shout out to iron Man.
I wanted to mention in our previous listener mail conversation
he had something in the title that was like beans,
but not the way that you think. So it sounds
like one of the primary things we're hearing from our
(13:43):
fellow listeners is that eating the right sorts of foods
can function as preventative medicine in this case. So it
turns out stick Man from dead Press was right, Let
your food be your medicine, guys.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So sorry, just through er straight ten me eqs is
seven hundred and forty milligrams. Oh so you're fine, Matt,
You're fine.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Okay, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Maybe we should even I don't know we got there. Sorry,
not a medical professional here. First time i'd seen that term,
but I did find a converter, so yes, it is different.
Em Eq's is his own measurement, and seven hundred and
forty milligrams is ten em eq's Okay, you're you're not
gonna You're gonna be okay, Matt, You're gonna be okay.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Oh wait, but according to Baron, Eaton Prime Sports drink
has seven hundred milligrams of potassium in it, which is
like right on it's right on the line.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
It does appear to be right on the line.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yes, get on it.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Well, thanks to Poodle Crab and Pepper and for those
very interesting emails that you know, sort of different perspectives,
but they also had some some interesting overlap. So let's
take a quick break here a word from our sponsor,
and then come back with more messages from you.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
All right, we've returned, and we are going to Oregon
for a little story from a concerned citizen.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
Hey guys, it's me again, calling from central Oregon, most
central southern Oregon. Anyway, let's call me concerned citizens today.
So there is a dam just north of Roseburg, Oregon,
on the north on Quar River called the Winchester Dams.
I think that's right, it's other Winchester or Winston. It's
got to be Winchester Winston South anyway. So it's pretty
much like air and rocky bitch. Levels is bad for
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the drinking water that we are supplied here in Rothbert,
and nobody is doing anything about it. As far as
I can tell. The dam was placed illegally. It does
not off of power generation, It does not have a
fish ladder. It is simply just basically a puddle for
rich people on the river to have for their seaboats.
Then that's it. There is no public access to it whatsoever.
It's just a rich neighborhood with a pool that is
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made out of the river basically. And I was hoping
that you could shine a little bit of light on
that for me, because I should not do digging near
as well as you guys. Thank you so much for
your time. And Happy New Year.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Hey, Happy New Year to you. That was sent to
us in like early February. Guys, so happy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Happy Halloween as well. I love that too.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Merry Christmas, happy, So thank you so much. Concerned citizen guys,
we're traveling to Rossberg. I think that's how you pronounce
their concerned citizen I would have said Roseberg because that's
how it's spelled. Uh. And we're talking about the Umpquah
River that kind of snakes through this area. And you
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can look at the it is the Winchester damn by
the way, and you you can look at a picture
of this from up above via the Google Maps and
you can see where the dam exists and where kind
of the neighborhood area is that concerned citizen is referencing there.
Did a little searching just to try and figure out
what's going on with this dam. The first first thing
(17:00):
I came across was an AP news article from early
October last year, twenty twenty three. I'll just give you
the title so you can look it up on your own.
Oregon seeks twenty seven million for damn repair it says
resulted in mass death of Pacific lamprey fish. I think, guys,
I think we heard about this just in our news
(17:22):
explorations that we do every week, but we never really talked.
We didn't talk about it wasn't a huge thing. It's
a fish die off. Those are unfortunately common now. This
one had to do with repairs to this Winchester Dam
that were being done by a couple of different organizations,
the Winchester Water Control District and then under that terra
(17:43):
firma Foundation Repair. Who are actually that's the company that's
actually performing repairs, and I think it's called Dowel Dowl LLC,
an organization that was going to work to basically get
the lamprey fish out of harm's way when this dam
or part of the river had to be drained in
order to make repairs to the dam. Now, when you
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hear that in your head, what does that look like?
That means the dam itself where the water stops right
where the river stops up against that dam. They had
to stop water from flowing down the river to a
certain extent in order to actually go in and repair
the foundation of that dam itself. And at least according
to this suit that you can find, it's I think
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it's from right around that same time. October sixth, twenty
twenty three, there is a claim from the State of Oregon,
via the Department of Fish and Wildlife and the State
Fish and Wildlife Commission, of twenty seven point five eighty
five million dollars against these organizations for not properly getting
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those Pacific lamprey fish out of harms way before draining
the thing that has nothing to do with water quality,
concerned citizen, So sorry, that is not what you're calling
in about. That's just the first thing we noticed, because
this dam itself has been looked at with some pretty
heavy scrutiny. And in that article, I'm just gonna read
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this statement because this is how the dam is described
by Claire Rush, who wrote that article for AP News.
Quote built in eighteen ninety on the North Umpqua River.
Winchester Dam is a former hydropower plant that is now
privately owned by the water district's residents. So the neighborhood, right,
the concerned citizens talking about, going back to the quote,
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who largely use it for water sports and recreation, according
to this complaint again by the state of Oregon. So
they're at least confirming that that's what the dam is,
who uses it, and you know why it still exists, right,
So then we jump down just to gosh, like less
than twenty days later, there is a piece written in
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Oregon Public Broadcasting by Alex I think baumhar Ar sow
you would say that this is about the very thing
concernsys and was talking about that same water district is
facing or was facing fines for water violations, so basically
sending unclean water down the river because of whatever is
(20:18):
occurring on the other side of that dam where the
residents live. Right, guys, do you have that article up. Yes,
Let's go through it just quickly, because I haven't looked
at this too deeply. Let's just find out what the
heck is actually going on. Is it going back to
those same repairs basically that they sent chemicals or silt
(20:39):
or something down the river?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Right? Yeah. The issue is if you have ever been
around a construction site, they get really messy really quick.
That's just the nature of how construction works and the
concerns here. I'm going also, Matt to some folks at
a place called waterwatch dot org who have made some
(21:02):
comments on this. The dam repairs are controversial because locals
feel the folks repair of the dam have not followed
the established standard operating procedure and as such, it didn't
just compromise the passage and safety of fish or marine wildlife,
(21:23):
but it also compromised the drinking water. And waterwatch dot
org fellow conspiracy realist, you can tell by the title
they have a certain perspective. Yeah, waterwatch dot org is
arguing that the local community provided information on how to
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conduct these repairs well in advance to preserve the quality
of drinking water and the quality of I don't want
to say, quality of life, the chance of existence for
these fish, and that they were roundly, consistently, continually ignored
even though they did everything right in terms of speaking
(22:08):
with the appropriate authorities and so on.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Dude. Well, according to Oregon Public Broadcasting, the two main
things are the reason that there is a fine of
one hundred and thirty four thousand additional dollars for basically
water quality was because the companies performing those repairs quote
allowed concrete to spill into the river, which is probably
(22:32):
not great. And they placed what they're saying are unpermitted
mats made of heavy truck tires in the river. And
we've talked about this before, the dangers of that, the
specific types of rubber and metal that go together to
create a modern tire, and how when that stuff breaks
down just on streets, right on roads, especially highways, that
(22:57):
pollutes the water table. As again, just imagine the particulate
matter of tires slowly, very very slowly wearing down That's
why you got to replace your tires right when they
go you go in and check them because you're actually
losing rubber on the road. That could be potentially really
dangerous just sitting in a river's waterways.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It reminds me of a few years back during my
car stuff days, we looked into this very well intentioned
mission to save coral reefs by setting up used tires
as a sculpture for them to grow on. Spoiler, it
did not work well, and I feel like also Matt.
(23:38):
At this point, we probably want to share with everyone
a description of the Pacific lamb prey. This does not
look like a trout. It does not look like a salmon.
It looks like the worms from Dune. It looks like
a very Kawhi powe version of the worms from Dune,
or this Venusian sandworms beetlejuice. These guys are not winning
(24:03):
fish beauty contest, but no, they are an important part
of the ecosystem. They do deserve to exist. Just want
to give you a warning, a heads up, folks. If
you're playing along at home and you heard you heard
concerned citizen in Matt mentioned lamb preis gird yourself be ready.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, they don't.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Look like they belong on earth, but they do.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And they are pretty tiny. It's it's kind of like
an eel and a fish together with some kind of
face hugger situation.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
They'll get you, they'll get you.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Well, there are many of them are parasitic. I believe
the Pacific lamp prey is parasitic. There's there's like one
species in Oregon that is not. You know, they're really interesting. Oh,
they function the way we know salmon function. Remember we
talked about that salmon sucker whatever the thing was this.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Salmon they ca Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
This damn doesn't have anything like that for these lampreys
or the salmon that exist on that river that are
wont to get back up the river to spawn. But
they can't. Well, and that's not good. So that needs
to change for sure. Oh what was the Oh, good goodness,
there was one other thing I wanted to talk about
with this With these guys. They are kind of tiny
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and weird, looking like almost like worms that way you
describe it ben not a sand worm, but just an
actual worm. They just look really weird. You can see
pictures of a lot of them dying or expired in
the river bed when those repairs were occurring.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Terrible.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Well, it doesn't seem like something how do I put this,
It doesn't seem like something that most people would be
concerned about.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Right. True, they're also though they do have a big
part in Native American ceremonies and folklore. Like they're they
do matter, right, even things that I don't know if
anybody listening this evening is thinking, I know the most
beautiful fish, or if you have had a hierarchy in
(26:03):
your head, the land pray may not meet it. But
again they do have they do have a right to exist.
And our word for the day, I suppose would be
anadromas or anadromus, which is just the marine life forms
that are required to migrate to exist. And if you
set up it's kind of like the land bridges that
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have been built over interstates and state roads. If you
interrupt that passage of life, then you are fuzeing with
the larger ecosystem in a way that humans do not
fully understand. There is no political bias in saying that.
That is just absolutely true. In the land bridge example,
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what the humans did was they said, hey, where a
lot of mammals specifically are going to die because they
cannot move through their natural range without getting hit by
a semitruck or a tractor trailer. Uh you know, or
like hot headed, fast and furious camaro I don't know.
So they built these They built these natural esque land
(27:08):
bridges over the roads, and that solved the problem. It
seems that it should be standard operating procedure for human
made dams to have something like that for fish, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
No, that makes that makes total sense. I think it's
something that should occur. Let's make it happen, y'all. H
slash the what was it called the Winchester Water Control District?
Come on, guys, is.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
That our new Is that our new beef for the week.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
No, we don't know enough about it. We were sent
a message and we're looking ato it for the first time.
Oh can I do a shout out for another podcast
really quickly? Guys not affiliated with us.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
In anyways please.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Of course, I am obsessed with and have blown through
every episode in existence of a show called We're Here
to Help. It's uh, it's Gareth Reynolds and Jake Johnson.
Gareth Reynolds aka Fit Aaron Paul If you guys ever
hear that. I'm saying that on purpose, and it is.
(28:08):
It's an advice show, like a call in advice show
that is tremendously entertaining. And hats off to those guys
and to Kevin who's their producer. Hats off to them
for just making a splendidly entertaining show.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And it's not related to the two thousand and seven
comedy We're here now.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, this is just two guys who occasionally have guests
on and give advice to random callers. But the cool
thing about the show is that, like early on, you'll
hear them give advice to one person, right, and then
like ten episodes later, that same person calls back in
to update on how the thing is going. So you
get this experience of like just a journey you're taking
(28:52):
with everybody who's a part of the show. It's splendid.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
We also have to say it's not all bad news
in terms of the existence of fish, right. We know
that there are like I saw something that just about
a week ago where also in Oregon, not Central Oregon,
Eastern Oregon, they had their first salmon spawn in like
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three decades.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Yeah, So these these things sound maybe weird and obscure
and municipal or maybe tree huggish, but they do matter.
It is important to stick up for the wildlife in
your neck of the global woods.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, and for the water quality.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Oh yeah, also the humans. So I always forget to
add that part. Yeah, done too.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
Well, I mean everybody's got to use that water, including
the lamp rays.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
All right, Well that's it for now, Thanks so much,
concerned citizen. We'll be right back with more messages from you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Hello. Everyone. Quick note before we proceed with the last
part of this week's listener mail segment, we are going
to explore correspondence we received related to our earlier episode
on tainted polio vaccinations. After we recorded this episode, we
learned that the heroic Paul Alexander passed away on March twelfth.
(30:24):
We're playing the episode as we recorded it before his demise,
and our thoughts go out to his family and friends.
Thank you so much. We now resume our regular show
and we have returned with some messages from you. First
things first, folks, thank you to everyone who tuned in
(30:45):
on our episode about tainted polio. It is a heartbreaking
chapter of American history, and as we said earlier in
that episode, history itself is always close than it might
look in your textbooks and in your rear view mirror.
So we thought we would share, uh, some excerpts from
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many of our fellow conspiracy realists who wrote in with
their own experiences regarding polio. We want to go first
to our pal Jake, who says in part first off,
Osama bin Laden, personally, I'm glad he's gone. I would
like to share an innert hot take. Yeah, we were
(31:31):
worried about that.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Hold stands out there that on a couple of levels.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Noel, that was very well done.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
I oh yeah, it was beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Also, I remember, you know, for any pro bin Laden
folks in the audience, I'll take the hit. I was
the one who said, I think he's a bit of
a pill. Also, glad he's gone, Jake, Team Jake on that,
Jake wanted to share an interview from another podcast that
he listens to quite a bit. Again, not affiliated with us,
(32:07):
but we want to give credit where it's due. Jake
is telling us about the Sean Ryan Show. Episode twenty
seven has Rob O'Neill from Seal Team six and the
name of the episode is the man who killed Ben Lawton,
So we haven't done an entire episode yet on the
(32:30):
circumstances surrounding the death of obl You can hear, I
think at different times in our past. You can hear
us take a couple shots at the official story, and
maybe there's an episode in the future. But Jake says
interesting bits and pieces here. You don't really hear about
the media or Hollywood. This podcast, Sean Ryans, has interviews
(32:55):
with ex military types that would make you think, okay,
just another military Harry interview show. Yet it delves into
a bunch of topics ranging from psychedelic treatments, UFO and UAP,
human trafficking, remote viewing, and more so, if you, as
Matt said earlier, we don't restrict ourselves to shouting out
(33:17):
shows that are on our network or that work with us.
We shout out shows that we think are worth your time.
Here's what Jake says about polio quote. Secondly, polio Obviously,
there is an increasing division between those four vaccines and
against vaccines, with the COVID vaccine at the forefront. There
(33:37):
are people out there, myself included, that are definitely four vaccines.
Childhood travel, requirements, et cetera, but are against the COVID
vaccines and are being swept into the evil anti vaxxer category.
All that being said, I firmly believe we all have
to do our own research and decide what is best
(33:59):
for our own health and that of our families. The
Cutter pharmaceutical story brought up something I read a few
years ago that raised the hair on my back about
an oral polio vaccine that was being developed in the
late fifties. And here is a returning indirect guest. Jake
(34:19):
pointed out a book we talked about in the past,
The River, A Journey to the Source of HIV by
Edward Hooper. Remember this, we talked about this a few
years ago. We read the book too.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You read the book.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
We know about the book. It is an interesting read.
It's one that I think we want to hear more
people respond to because in this book, Hooper lays out
what you could call a conspiracy theory, and it's made
in good faith, and it made enough of a splash
(34:55):
that scientists looked back at the theory. As Jake note,
it is considered largely disproven, But the question is is
it disproven for real? Or is it a cover up?
We want your opinions. Just going to roll that one
out to the audience.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
But do you guys.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Remember hearing this theory about the propagation of AIDS like
a tainted vaccine?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Uh? Yes, it's it's weird because I remember we encountered it.
I'm talking about vaccines is just weird nowadays. It's just
a weird subject of any vaccine in general. Right, And
this concept, I felt like we didn't see it proven
from the book, but I don't know that. I wasn't convinced.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
But same, same, same. However, we are not medical professionals,
as we always say in these conversations, So let us
know what you think about this book. Thank you to
Jake for writing in here. We have another thing and
an interesting care evolution from a returning guest, our guest
(36:04):
who now goes by the conversant coyote.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Oh was the original?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Originally this coyote was stoned Stone. Okay, he'll stop talking,
so conversant and he says, greetings, voices from the void.
I'm sure you've gotten a few emails about this, but
just in case you didn't, I wanted to pass it
on to you after listening to your episode on polio,
I found myself a little shocked you didn't mention Paul Alexander,
(36:34):
who contracted polio in nineteen fifty two and has needed
to use an iron lung ever since. He is now
an attorney in Texas and his story really brings home
this disease to the modern day. Here's a link to
a story about him, and I hope you all find
it as interesting as I did. And our now conversant
(36:57):
coyote says, excellent piece in the gard Lady and by
Linda Rodriguez McRobbie called the man in the iron lung,
And with our conversation about tane and polio vaccines, we're
call we did mention the iron lung, and I think
we were asking each other, you know, is this a
quality of life question? Right? Do you have to be
(37:20):
in an iron lung for the entirety of your existence?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
That's right? We didn't quite, I think fully know. And
then the way it's reported oftentimes does seem like it's
you're isolated in that environment. But it does appear from
several first hand accounts that we got the email and
other sources that you can just do a couple hours
a day or even a week.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, And it's a type of what's called a negative
pressure ventilator. It's a mechanical respirator. And to your point, Noel,
I was wondering if it's similar to dialysis treatment, right, Like,
you're not always hooked to a dialysis machine if you
are undergoing dialysis, but you do have to go in regularly.
(38:04):
It looks like the argument is that the use of
iron lungs today is largely obsolete because there have been
improvements in respiration breathing therapies. However, during the COVID nineteen pandemic,
and I didn't know this, there was a moment of
(38:24):
re emergent interest in using iron lungs as a cheap
substitute for ventilators because so many people needed them.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I didn't know it either, And I'm thankful that we
are not currently using iron lungs and ventilators. But please
do check out that Guardian story. We have one more.
We had so much response to the story about the
polio the cutter incident, right, and here's one last one
(38:57):
from Grace, And this is one that I think meant
a lot to all of us, and hopefully to those
of us listening at home too high stuff. They don't
want you to know, writes Grace. I'm a thirty two
year old polio survivor and I'd love to chat more
about the polio episode and how important vaccines are to
keep polio at bay. Grace has shared with us her
(39:21):
own and it's totally okay to see her name on
ericause she has shared with us a piece she wrote
at voicesfo Vaccines dot org. You can read that. You
can find it easily, just search on your browser choice
Grace Voices for Vaccines. I'm a polio survivor. I don't
(39:42):
want you to get it. And in this we see
again that history is much closer than the textbooks make
it appear. I'll just give us the very beginning of
this and let's discuss, Grace writes. In July twenty twenty two,
an unvaccinated twenty year old in Rock County, New York
was diagnosed with paralytic polio, a disease that's almost eradicated.
(40:06):
Then they ask how did this happen to polio's survivors
like me? It was only a matter of when, not if.
With misinformation regarding healthcare and vaccines skyrocketing, and then Grace continues,
I'm thirty years old. I contracted polio in nineteen ninety
two in India, shortly after I was adopted and raised
(40:29):
in Saint Louis, Missouri by a phenomenal and supportive family.
Despite having great insurance and access to world class medical care,
polio is not an easy ride. One in two hundred
polio infections are paralytic, and mine was one of them. Jeez,
it goes on. The stats are solid. Grace is an
(40:52):
awesome person. Grace is also bringing up, I think something
that it's easy for us to forget in the modern day,
which is just because you're not hearing about something in
a headline, just because it's not all over social media,
that doesn't mean it's gone. These things are out there.
(41:13):
They're very real. And the reason we bring this up,
similar to the potassium debate, We're hearing a lot of
very well written, very well reasoned, sometimes contradictory correspondence about
polio and indeed about the nature of vaccines in general.
So I was hoping that we could make space real quick.
(41:37):
Do you guys have reactions to this, like, would you
if you contracted polio or something. Would you go to
an iron lung if you had to? What would be
your decision? Wow, just the small talk, just the light questions.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Well, I'm no expert, so I would. I guess I
would do my own research, as we always recommend to doing,
and I would pair that with the advice of medical
professionals and see where I landed. If it seemed like
something that would benefit me long term, and I didn't
it didn't, like you said, Ben, completely plummet my quality
(42:15):
of life, then yeah, I think I would do it.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Well.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Going back to that Guardian article the man in the
Iron Lung, this person contracted polio a long time ago.
He's now seventy four years old as of three years ago,
so he has seventy seven now, And isn't he Isn't
he in an attorney? Yes, in Texas, So I mean
cares about that iron lung. Just following Paul's footsteps, you
(42:40):
good to go, Paul Alexander. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Get the law on your side, get your degree.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Well, I mean, but yeah, there are images of him
when he was first written about, when he was a
child and in an iron lung, of him painting with
his mouth, using you know, holding the paintbrush with his
mouth and making incredible art. I think in the end,
it's how how strong are you mentally right with anything
like this? And and if you're If you are, if
(43:08):
you can find it within yourself to fight and keep
moving forward, then you know the physical stuff's going to
affect you the way it does, and you just decide
how you let that affect you.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Right, what is your support network to?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Oh, hug, that's huge.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
That is actually a fundamental ingredient in what we call
blue zones. Blue zones are the parts of human civilization
wherein people have a much higher chance of living past
one hundred. Uh there's there are only I think two
in the US. One is in California and one is
weirdly enough, in New Jersey. Yeah, no offense to our
(43:46):
listeners in New Jersey for me saying weirdly enough.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
But but hey, just to go back to Grace's story too. Yes,
you know she's shared. She's out there sharing her story
with places like the Shriner's Hospital and stuff, and she
is taking that adversity that she's faced and turning it
into something super positive the same way Paul did.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
So, I love.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I agree with that. Yeah, and I think that's an
excellent point because both Paul and Grace, by raising visibility
have been actively saving lives. You can never discount that, right,
And let's maybe end our polio conversation for now with
a quote directly from you, Grace, and thank you again
(44:28):
so much for your advocacy and for sharing her story.
Grace writes, Misinformation is why a twenty year old was
diagnosed with polio in twenty twenty two. Misinformation is why
hundreds of thousands unnecessarily died of COVID instead of being vaccinated.
Misinformation will continue to disable and kill people as long
(44:52):
as it remains unchecked. It's something to think about, and
we wanted to say that there is, uh, there's much
more to discuss regarding polio, regarding the concept of vaccination
in general. We look forward to hearing from you, fellow
conspiracy realist. We like to do a little bit of
(45:13):
a letters from Home at the end, not necessarily new
leads on new shows or topics, but just you know,
some how you do ons some nice to see us.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
We got to give a shout out to our friends
a Casual Preppers podcast and our fantastic social team Station sixteen,
especially our pal Erica. We started doing some polls on
the internets and we were asking questions like what is it,
what's your favorite survival food? Or what's the best what
do you need to bring into a bunker?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. Did we put out the one
about uh, what's which vehicle slash ride?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
I think we did?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Oh yeah in in an apocalypse situation? Definitely going Falcory, Yeah, yeah,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yeah, this is the way.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yeah, foul course the way. But check out our polls
that we're doing on Instagram. Again, all praise due to Erica.
Check out our pals casual Prepper podcasts. Shout out to
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