May 18, 2023 • 41 mins
Could someone have purposely manufactured the great coin shortage during the pandemic? Anon calls in with a sobering plea. A fellow Conspiracy Realist proposes a possible explanation for the woman experiencing orgasms at the symphony. All this and more in this week's listener mail segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noel.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
superproducer Lexus code named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here, and that makes this the
stuff they don't want you to know. We have some
exciting correspondence today. You, specifically, you are the best part
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of the show. You're the only reason it continues. And
we are always glad to have some of our fellow
listeners here on the air. In spirit for our weekly
Listener Males segment, we are going to we're going to
end with something serious today, and before we get to that,
we're going to talk about rental versus ownership society, something
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we've been warning about for quite some time now, and
we're going to talk about a conspiracy regarding that time
when everybody was out of change during the pandemic. But
before we do any of that, we've got a really interesting,
really interesting letter in response to the story about the
woman who experienced an orgasm during a symphony.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
That's right. We discussed the potential causes for that, including
things like Stendall syndrome, a reported condition let's call it,
that involves states of ecstasy being brought on by the
experience of beautiful works of art, whether that be visually
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experiencing an incredible sculpture or painting in an art gallery,
or perhaps the kind of thing that might have been
experienced at a performance of a Tchaikowsky symphony at the
LA Philharmonic. In response to that, we got a really
great email with some very interesting additional context there. This
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comes from benbo Junior and the subject is Los Angeles
Philharmonic debacle.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Following up from your episode over the woman having an
orgasm during the Los Angeles Philharmonic's concert. One possible reason
is an epileptic orgasm seizure. As you no doubt know,
epileptic seizure is very a great deal from the stereotypical
fit known as tonic colonic seizures, and there are also
many variations. Being a sufferer myself, I can experience visual,
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oral lack of energy, feeling sick and emotional, amongst many
other types of experiences or stimuli. Rather, I guess some
side effects let's call them. While not a symptomperience myself,
a rare type of seizure that people can experience are
orgasmic and can happen anywhere at any time without warning,
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and this could be added to the reason for this
woman's experience. Keep up the good work, benbo Junior. That
is very interesting. I'm not gonna lie that one kind
of took me by surprise and it was not something
that we discussed in or that the Internet has really
proposed as a potential cause for this outburst. Let's call
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it again. We don't perfectly have corroborating resources agreeing saying
that this is what happened. This is definitely a woman
that was having an orgasm for whatever reason at this concert.
But the idea of being overcome by the work by
being triggered. We've been talked about hyper sensitive person syndrome
or or disorder condition where people can be very sensitive
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to stimuli. Matt, I believe you pointed out the idea
that music is just sound vibrating traveling through the air,
you know, and literally taking a bow and vibrating a
string that is then transmitted through air, you know, in
the form of waves that can hit our bodies, and
you know, you would necessarily think that it would be
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powerful enough to cause a physical reaction without some sort
of really intense, you know, pa system that might really
you know, send massive waveforms in the form of like
subwolfers or base frequencies that we can definitely feel in
our bodies. But the idea of an orgasmic epileptic seizure
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really got me thinking, and so I kind of I
did a little bit of googling and found a research
paper called orgasmic epilepsy and it was from J. Salha, R.
Carpizo and Jay Berciano, and it was published by the
National Library of Medicine National Center for Biotechnology Information. And
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here the abstract. We studied a forty one year old
woman who had nocturnal somatosensory seizures followed by orgasm. The
inturrichtal EEG showed discrete left central parietal region paroximal activity
that markedly increased during sleep. Eight electroclinical seizures were recorded
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during sleep polygraphic recording. Orgasms occurred coinciding with generalization of
proximal activities no abnormalities were found on serial neurologic examination
or computed tomography scan. The attacks were completely controlled by
anti epileptic drugs. So yeah, I mean, I didn't find
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a whole ton of information out there about this, and
I really would love to dig in and read this
study more in depth. But it does seem to speak
to this idea that certain seizures can cause this this
type of reaction, and I also, in looking for this
found the reverse can also be true, that people can
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be triggered into having seizures by having orgasms. So I
don't know, have y'all heard anything or read anything about this,
or you know, or the inverse.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. Yeah, Most of the research that I have found
is about the link between an orgasmic experience and possible
triggering of an epileptic seizure, which makes sense. Luckily, it's
not super common. But if we notice that anxiety and
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stress can be triggers for a seizure, then we also
have to remember that there are two different types of stress.
Despite the fact that most people mean stress in a
bad sense. In today's nomenclature, there's you stress and there's distress,
distress being the bad one. You stress being the good one.
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Your body can still experience wear and tear in great
moments of sustained joy.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Absolutely, I mean, and they're just sort of two sides
of the same coin. And it's interesting because we don't
really think of euphoria as stress exactly, but I mean,
at the end of the day, it is something that
affects us in a very all consuming way. And I think,
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you know, thinking of them as kind of two sides
of the same coin is interesting. I mean, you stress,
you know, can cause motivational upticks and you know, being
able to kind of power through things and sort of
like I guess let's think of it as like get
up and go or whatever, or just you know, like
excitement rather than upsettedness or dwelling on negative things that
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can cause you to go into a shutdown.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Is this like the zuomis when my dogs get as zuomies,
it's the human zuomies.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, exactly. It's a flight or flight response.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Because it really does seem like it's it has to
occur when when one of my dog's meadow gets the zuomies.
It's it's uncontrollable at least is what it seems like
to me. Sorry, I was just trying to apply it's
something I've actually experienced.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think that's that's no. I think that's that's appropriate.
And you know, it gives I mean, obviously humans don't
exactly run around in circles, you know, whacking their tails
or whatever. But it does certainly, you know, the idea
of you stress. It can be almost have a healing
quality to it, or give you kind of superpowers, you know,
or make you feel like you can do anything. It Also,
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it's not necessarily going to last as long as distress,
which can be a chronic you know, syndrome that you
can't control, uh and U. Stress usually requires some kind
of catalysts, right. Obviously, distress can as well. People that
have just generalized anxiety. You might not know what's going
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to trigger you, you know. And and again we're not
talking anxiety and epilepsy are two very different things. We
just know that, you know, folks who have epilepsy can
obviously be triggered by things like flashing lights or other stimuli. Again,
I'm not an expert on this, but it does seem
to me if you could be stimulated by something visually,
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you know, you could also perhaps be stimulated by something sonically.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, and we I think we were gonna make space
here to note for anybody listening tonight who has experienced
epilepsy in one form or another, the literature indicates that
epilepsy can, through a variety of factors, lead to a
lower incidence of sexual desire or arousal. And some of that,
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I mean, the studies aren't one hundred percent water proof,
but some of that seems to be partially due to
some anti seizure medications, and then other parts are still
a relationship to science is trying to suss out. But
we do know, of course, epilepsy can trigger, you know,
behavioral changes. I mean, the brain is such a complicated thing.
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People still aren't certain how it works, even now in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Well, I think that's interesting, Ben, the idea of maybe
your brain might prevent you from being as sexually stimulated
because it knows that that could bring on an undesired effect.
So it's almost like a safeguard.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right, Yeah, that's an interesting thought. Yeah, I could see that. Again.
Of course, we want to give the disclaimer, Like you
said earlier, we are not experts in this field, but
we do know statistically a lot of us here listening
today or tonight, have encountered epilepsy, have seizures yourself. You
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may know someone who has epilepsy. And luckily, since the
research is ongoing, people can increasingly lead existences with a
better quality of life. Do you guys know anybody who
has epilepsy?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The used two in high school there was a young
woman who had epilepsy and she ultimately did pass away
a very untimely manner due to that. Oh and actually
my partner's former roommate also had it. But you know,
folks like that that have that, they really have to
be careful about the kinds of stimuli they expose themselves to,
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which is also why nowadays you will see trigger warnings
before movies if they're going to be scenes where there
are like, you know, strobing lights, And you know, folks
like that can't always go to concerts because they don't
always give you that warning. So you got to be
careful about the situations you put yourself in because of
those things, those triggers that you might not be in
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control of. Matt, do you ever know anybody.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I can't recall knowing anybody that dealt with that?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well, we all know somebody now because we know Benbo Junior,
and we appreciate the perspective from someone who's very well
versed in this You know in this condition, you know
from firsthand experience. So thank you for the email, and
we're going to take a quick break. You're a word
from our sponsor and then come back with some more
messages from you.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And we have returned without compromising any identities. Shout out
to my old friends and gave you the street name
Louis a while back. You know who you are. Louie
lives with epilepsy and has as a result, had to
adjust some things, including struggling about whether or not to
be able to regain a driver's license. So pull in
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for you man. Our next peace correspondence comes from ghost
back Dog, and this is an excellent email. It's a
little bit thorough so we're gonna allide over just a
couple of these, but give you the sense of this.
I think this will be an interesting conversation. Ghost Batdog says, Hi, guys.
After six months living in a media desert, no TV,
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minimal internet access in the big Woods of northern Wisconsin,
I have been binge listening to your awesome show the
past few days. Thank you, GBD. We'll call you for short.
I was struck by a comment in your show on
the rent to own industry that it seems just one
step in a move to make us all renters of everything.
This has been a strategy since colonial times, when Europeans
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turned small holder farms of whatever in the tropics into
eventually migrant farm workers, mostly by getting them into debt
and then taking their land. And then GBD gives a
shout out to a novel called The Singapore Grip, which
I haven't read. I don't know if anyone else has,
and then also points out an instance in India in
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November eighth, twenty sixteen, when the government outlawed most Indian
currency in an attempt apparently by big tech to collect
rent on everyday transactions in India, which has traditionally been
a largely cash based society, and points out this now
we're paraphrasing, GBD, says Van Donna. Shiva points out, when
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you're using cash, the value of one hundred rupee note
is still one hundred rupees, no matter how many times
the bill changes hand. But when pavement goes digital, the
digital gatekeeper collects a portion or a veig of those
one hundred rupees every time it passes from one place
to the next, and this leads GBD to the question
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Ghost Batdog says, I wonder if the repeated American coin
shortages are a trial run by the the US government
in collusion with big tech to try the same thing
in the United States one of these days, and follows
up with an example regarding this shortage that GPT experienced personally.
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Do you all remember the coin shortage? Did it affect
you guys at all? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You can, yeah, yeah, you couldn't pay cash anywhere especially Yeah,
that's fair, right, I mean that was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I guess that's in terms of getting changed, you know.
I mean, you know, but it seems like places have
been going cashless for a while since the pandemic, So
I guess maybe I'm sort of already used to sort
of a cashless economy.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I think that is on purpose.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh, we talked about that too, and I don't disagree
with you. It certainly behoves certain folks for that to
be the case. Certain folks being you know, platforms that
facilitate cash less transactions and can take their little as
you call it ben.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
VIGOROUSH No, I can't. I mean credit where it's due
was along. You just always go with the full word,
which I.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Love if I just I think it's because who was it?
There was a character in a film who had the
name vigorish. I want to say, I can't remember who
it was. It wasn't usual suspects. That's verbal kent. But anyhow,
watercolors in the rain. We can speak to the idea
of this coin shortage, right, so, yes, one hundred percent,
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the future of currency is going to be cashless for
a while, depending on how long the current house of
cards remained stable. But if you look at the official
reporting regarding the coin shortage, the response from these governmental
sources is this the Federal Mint wanted to prevent employees
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from contracting or spreading COVID, so they closed down coin
manufacturing during the time. That's that's the official explanation. And
for a lot of people that doesn't quite you know,
that doesn't quite do it. If you are already kind
of gun shy about all the information you have to
share to use a credit or a debit card, then
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you could see this on as a further attack on
the anonymity of physical currency, and you know, we all
saw it here in the West. You would see places
that say, hey, we're not giving out quarters right, or
we're out of quarters, we have a shortage of change
exact change only, or to the earlier example, we're cashless.
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I think the explanation of tamping down on COVID, I
think that makes sense. I think it holds water. But personally,
I can completely see why someone would say there's a
cover up of foot I don't know. Doesn't it make
sense though, because so many things close down. Maybe they
said we just don't want to accelerate the spread of
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this infection.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean that certainly makes sense to me. Oh absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
We've got We've even got the us MET in the
Federal Reserve saying, quote, this is not a conspiracy to
go to a cash list society. This is simply a
disruption that has caused the limited recirculation of the coin
so that it's not as readily available. And if you
go places now, most places are not going to tell you, hey, Bud,
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we don't have any quarters and we're gonna keep this
one short. But before we move on, I did want
to open one more bag of Badgers. It's a flag
we've been raising for a while, and I don't want
to strike it any patriotism here in the United States.
But why do we still have pennies? Just get rid
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of them, you know, Canada is right. They cost more
to manufacture than their worth, even after they were changed
to like a zinc core or whatever. Like when's when's
the last time you used pennies?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't exactly, but you know, you guys is going
to sound very wasteful of me, But to me, pennies
I almost look at them like trash. Oh no, they're
just gross.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You don't like touching pennies, ben No, I wash my
hands immediately after.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's weird. I know, I can't help it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Cow weird. They're gross, man. And where do you find them?
You know, usually you fish them out of couch cushions
or in like dirty cup holders in your car when
you're like cleaning it, you know, I mean, they kind
of they're like rats.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
They're the rats of the currency world. Yeah, but they
were once like the one dollar bill. I mean, they
were the equivalent of the one dollar bill for a
while inflation.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Man. You know, penny candy used to be a thing.
I mean, my walkeet stick. I need to shake my
fist at the full moon because I don't go out
during the day. But that's another interesting part, you know. Honestly,
it's part of why I will always walk around with
a backpack, because if I pay cash for something and
someone gives me a bunch of change, I just don't
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want it on me. I don't want it in my pocket.
I know it's crazy, but I feel hold it for you.
You'll hold okay? Great? Great. The real dilemma is the quarters,
because quarters retain usefulness, right I could you melt.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
All those suckers down into ammunition if you.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Have that's a go wow down, Matt, Wow. Hold on
a second, you're onto something maybe not even ammunition, but
no now, but that they're not as copper as they
once were, isn't that true? They're like not pure copper right?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Uh? The pennies, the penny I think they still have
copper in them, but they're their core is zinc, So
maybe another example of shrink flation.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And zinc is a pretty common uh element, you know,
in terms of lots of nails are coated with a
zinc and it's sort of like a very you know,
common easily accessible sort of hardware metal. But what I
was getting at, and you got me excited that for
a second, was like, man, if pennies, I don't leave
in a lot of copper on the table there. We
should melt them all down and then just sell bricks
of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, there we go. And and also, hey, don't take
this as us saying throw out all your pennies. They're
not all created equal because the material composition has changed.
If you get the right penny from say nineteen forty three,
it will be worth much more than one cent. It
could be worth over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
What has it been? Phil philogy?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh yes, oh oh, we have to we have to.
It's a word for the day now, Okay, it is
philate phil it's not philadi it it's not fallacious. It's different.
It's so close. Uh oh, numismatist. The other one that
sounds like fillatio is a collector of stamps.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Stamps, that's phililtis.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, okay, so great, we've we've invented the perfect unnecessarily
nerdy and debriation test.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
There. I can't I can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Anywhere else un called sober and still couldn't think very
many people could outside of the community.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
That's tough. I could say super califragilistic expialidocious before I
hit those uh double l's in stamp collecting. Well, we're
going to pause it here because ghost Batdog you raise
an interesting question. One conspiracy appears to not not be
one hundred percent true. One does appear to be a theory.
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The US coin shortage during the pandemic was most likely
due to trying to stem the spread of COVID nineteen.
But the second one, the idea that there are powerful
forces pushing us from an ownership to a service and
fee based society. I think all of us unanimously agree
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that is true. I mean, how many people listening to
the show today are just realistically never going to be
able to own a house?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Right? Why are car manufacturers so hot on selling you
subscriptions for stuff that's already in the car video game DLC?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
How many more examples do we want anyway? Micro transaction
micro transactions, So we want to hear your big folks,
give us your take on the ownership the rental or
service society?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Are we are looking at a new era serfdom, cool, fun,
at parties. We're going to cause for a word from
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Speaker 2 (23:44):
And we're back strap in. We are all in for
a very sobering and serious message from an anonymous person.
We know your name, Anonymous. You have called in before.
We're just going to keep you on for this message.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Here we go, guys, a longtime listener, a long time caller.
It's a serious topic I want to touch base with
right now. I'm afraid that this little experiment called the
United States as we know it is about to end
everywhere you look. I want you, guys to cover what
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the bricks nations are and a relationship more mirroring NATO.
The fact that Russia and China just shook hands on
fourteen different accords, the fact that Saudi Arabia is joining
them in going to a monetary system that is backed
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by gold, which the United States hasn't done since nineteen
seventy three, which means that they will not be using
the American dollar to be trading in oil and such.
So our dollar is going to be basically worthlessening turn
us into a third world country overnight, and our current government,
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love them or hate them, is using the people of
Ukraine to launch a proxy war so we can do
illegal research in illegal labs, creating illegal viruses once again,
all set up by Hunter Biden years ago when his
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happy was the vice president. Now all of those facts,
they've all been proven. I'm just laying it out there. Man,
we need you. Just come through for me, Come through
for America. I don't care what side you fall on.
I fall right down the middle. God bless you guys.
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And oh man, anyways, if I'm ever in Atlanta, I'll
stop by the local and buy you guys around. You
deserve it.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
God bless all right, A fellow intellectual and fan of
chicken wings. I see, well, we welcome you, Anonymous to
the local. While while the getting is good, I'm very
interested in that. What about this in specific struck you
as a downer? Was it the idea of the collapse
of the US as a superpower and like a unipolar
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world with the petro dollar?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well, I mean you can hear it in Anonymous's voice,
like how serious he feels this is right? And if
the things he's saying are true, well, then being members
of this here old United States could be a personal
problem for all of us, I guess, you know. And
Anonymous is pointing out very some very real things like
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the situation going on where it does appear that there
are several other superpowers around the world that are teaming
up to be anti United States, and the power that
this country has kind of held sway over the world
for a while, including a new currency that would replace
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potentially the petro dollar within those bricks nations, which is Brazil, Russia, India, China,
South Africa, I think others as well.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Been Yeah, it used to be just brick, but now
it's bricks countries. We're talking about. The fancy word for
it would be a unipolar, bipolar multipolar world. Right during
the Cold War, the world was seen as bipolar, meaning
there were two superpowers or poles, the USSR and the
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United States. The Cold War, of course, is so bag
of badgers. But I think what we're talking about here, Anonymous,
is the idea of the petro dollar falling to the wayside,
which removes a huge power. One of the United States'
biggest powers is economic. It is that it functions as
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the world's reserve currency, just like some version of English
is the de facto common language of business. These are
just true things. We're not bragging here. If China and
Russia really are making a deal, they're kind of strange
bedfellows because China, while having clearly imperialistic expansionist aims like
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look at Belton Road initiatives sometimes called Silk Road two
point zero, do they want to be chained to the
quagmire that is Russia. I hope I can give a
little bit of not optimism here, but maybe maybe lighten
the mood a little bit for anonymous and for us.
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It's the following. Even if things go sideways and we
get in a food bar situation, we have to remember
is that the passage of history in the world of
geopolitics is almost always determined by geography. The United States
is in the catbird seat. The two countries abutting the
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United States are on board largely with the US. There
is a united North American continent. There are also two
cartoonishly huge oceans between the US and It's and it's
dangers right it's rivals. This I means changes.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, but we're talking about economic warfare, right.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Warfare is economic well.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But you don't need to cross oceans for that, right.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Right, yeah, which is why Taiwan is such a hot
spot right now and why they're spinning up chip manufacturing.
I just I think the reports of Chinese and Russian
cooperation are a little bit more pr than they are actionable.
Got you, That's that would be my argument.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I hear you. I've because I think we're all in
the same position, relatively anonymous when we look at the
news while we're recording this episode of just pulling up
recent news articles pertaining to the things you mentioned in
your message, and one of the main ones I looked
at is from Al Jazeera March twenty first of this year.
Russia China ties enter quote new era as Gie meets
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Putin in Moscow. We remember we talked about this internally
here quite a bit when that was going down. Looking
at the dialogue, I guess, as you could call it,
that was occurring between those two countries very openly and
in a pr style way that you're describing there, Ben,
But it does also appear that there's real cooperation to
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some extent. Because none of us will know what was
really said behind those closed doors, We will only know
what they present to everybody on the outside world. We
do know that, according to Foreign Policy, Russia was working
directly with India as China was also working directly with
India to attempt to make some kind of petro dollar killer,
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or at least Russia's is said within Foreign Policy and
a couple other outlets to be spearheading that effort to
create a new gold backed currency. And you know, you
just you put those things together. In The Economist recently
they wrote something April ninth. The title of it is
welcome to a new era of petro dollar power, and
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it is talking about how it's changing. These are really
smart outlets with smart writers who are looking at this stuff.
And I guess, as just as a layperson right doesn't
know the ins and outs of a lot of these things,
it feels as though the bridge is starting to collapse.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well, yeah, I can I can see that, and I've
read some of the some of the work we're referring
to here. I will let's let's play a little bit
of a thought experiment. Because we know that Saudi Arabia
eventually will need to transform its energy game, right, we
know that Russia will have to find a way to
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stop hemorrhaging bodies and money. We know that China is
in the catbird seat to expand across what's often called
the Grand chessboard, the stands of Central Asia, and of
course the ambitions with Southeast Asia and the Eastern Theater,
the Pacific Theater overall. But what we really want to
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look at.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Is so dumb, I'm gonna throw some gas on the
fire here. Well, we really want to look at are
the statements from old Daddy Vladdie on March twenty third.
I want to say, at least Reuter's got to him
reported this. As soon as this news hit that anonymous
is referencing the economists and so on, a referencing Vladimir
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Putin released a public statement and said Russia and China
are not creating a military alliance.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And not to sound like I'm casting a spersion upon
the character this man I've never met, but that feels
like evidence that something's up to me. The problem is
also like what, okay, so what does China get by
throwing in with Russia? Does China need Russia? Would Russia
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agree to function as a junior partner, which would be
kind of an inversion of history past. You know, these
are questions that to your point have yet to be answered.
I do have to also, everybody knows it. The US
has serious structural problems that are going to impede its
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long term survival. The US is a very young country.
It is absolutely fair to still call it an experiment. However,
the US has by far the most dangerous military on
the planet by any metric. The US has the two
largest air forces on the planet by any metric. Number
one is like the Navy. Number two is the air Force.
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Number two is the number one is the air Force.
Number two is the Navy. What I'm saying is what
I'm saying is while the economic warfare is a very
a very real and present and clear danger, we have
to realize that the United States is one of the
most effective wagers of economic warfare in all of human history.
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They took what the colonials did, and that like if
colonialism and all the economic warfare of that, if that
was cocaine. The US foreign policy created crack, you know
what I mean? And the danger there's so many antennas
and signals out to sense this stuff. We are going
to live in interesting times. We already do. But I
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am not persuaded that it's time to play taps on
the trumpet just yet. I think the US still has
there's a lot of kick in the older girl.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Because I need to work on my AMBI sure if
I'm going to play taps?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, Well I think about something like coin. We still
don't know who created that, right, we don't. We have
no idea who actually created bitcoin. I'm just kidding, we
don't know. And the push for cryptocurrency has always fascinating
me because it does seem to It got a lot
of support from unlikely places as it was becoming more
(35:19):
and more of a thing, and I wonder often if
that was an alternative to potentially moving away from the dollar, right,
the US dollar, the petro dollar and those systems, as
having as we saw how it went, well we do,
I mean, and it's still evolving, right, see where all
that's going to go? But I do wonder if there
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have been already attempts to circumvent the coming shift, right,
because the US isn't always going to be in control, right,
It just won't be. It can't be. It's not how,
that's not how civilization has gone thus far, and I
doubt it will just stay for some weird reason. In
this one path.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I'm just I think thinking about this stuff, thinking about
what happens to currencies when hyperinflation does go into it
in effect, what that does to I mean again, I'm
not I'm not even thinking about it at all. When it
comes to militaries, I'm thinking about it when other countries
team up NATO style, the way our anonymous caller mentions
(36:20):
to fight an economic war that doesn't require bombs or anything.
It just requires a bunch of other people to say,
we're going to opt out of your system and we're
going to start this system. And now your system is
going to still function for you in your you know,
your region, your what did you call it, ben, your poll,
but our poll over here is going to do a
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whole other, completely different thing, and it's going to weaken
you because.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Of the sphere. Yeah. Well, we also have precedent for this.
One of the most recent precedents, which I wish was
reported more often. We talked about this on the show.
The dictator, late dictator Muamar Gadaffi was overthrown right after
decades a very villainous activity. He was not a good person.
(37:07):
He is overthrown deposed and murdered or assassinated, and there
were a lot of vague statements about protecting our interests
quote unquote our interests or you know, human rights. All
of a sudden, the West was concerned enough to take action.
The real reason Gaddafi was deposed, the real reason the
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s hit the f there, and I don't mean San Francisco,
is because Gadaffi was quite close to creating a version
of the Euro for the African continent, which would threaten
the supremacy of the African FRONC, which was run by France.
It gave them hedge of money. And so this like,
that's what I mean when I say all warfare is economic.
(37:51):
There is like it's just saying, like all war is
based on resources, really, right, and currency is just shorthand
for resources in a more liquid form. So I would
say that while we cannot predict the future because we
are not DARPA, we can say that there are actions
that can be taken, There are levers that can be pulled,
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things that the vast majority of we, the US public,
are not aware of. And with the idea of Russia
and China teaming up, we have to realize that Russia
is increasingly becoming a rogue state in international paria. Russia
needs China way more than China needs Russia, and I
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think that's been the case for quite some time now.
Will they partnering with Also India and China don't get
along super well, so will will they be able to
navigate a partnership creating a new currency or normalizing a
new currency and traffic, energy, and petroleum exclusively in that currency.
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It's possible, it's on the table. But what will the
knock on effects of that be? Will they lead to
the fall of the United States. It's important to note
that right now, given the network of obligations and interest
and competitions the world entire, the US has high like
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if the US falls, it's gonna be partially, partially to
a huge degree, due to domestic issues. I don't think,
I mean a boogeyman abroad will still be powerful, and
these are forces to be reckoned with. But we have
to remember that old who was it he said, A
house divided cannot stand Charles Dickens, Charles famous YouTuber Charles.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noel.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
superproducer Lexus code named Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here, and that makes this the
stuff they don't want you to know. We have some
exciting correspondence today. You, specifically, you are the best part
(00:48):
of the show. You're the only reason it continues. And
we are always glad to have some of our fellow
listeners here on the air. In spirit for our weekly
Listener Males segment, we are going to we're going to
end with something serious today, and before we get to that,
we're going to talk about rental versus ownership society, something
(01:13):
we've been warning about for quite some time now, and
we're going to talk about a conspiracy regarding that time
when everybody was out of change during the pandemic. But
before we do any of that, we've got a really interesting,
really interesting letter in response to the story about the
woman who experienced an orgasm during a symphony.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
That's right. We discussed the potential causes for that, including
things like Stendall syndrome, a reported condition let's call it,
that involves states of ecstasy being brought on by the
experience of beautiful works of art, whether that be visually
(01:58):
experiencing an incredible sculpture or painting in an art gallery,
or perhaps the kind of thing that might have been
experienced at a performance of a Tchaikowsky symphony at the
LA Philharmonic. In response to that, we got a really
great email with some very interesting additional context there. This
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comes from benbo Junior and the subject is Los Angeles
Philharmonic debacle.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Following up from your episode over the woman having an
orgasm during the Los Angeles Philharmonic's concert. One possible reason
is an epileptic orgasm seizure. As you no doubt know,
epileptic seizure is very a great deal from the stereotypical
fit known as tonic colonic seizures, and there are also
many variations. Being a sufferer myself, I can experience visual,
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oral lack of energy, feeling sick and emotional, amongst many
other types of experiences or stimuli. Rather, I guess some
side effects let's call them. While not a symptomperience myself,
a rare type of seizure that people can experience are
orgasmic and can happen anywhere at any time without warning,
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and this could be added to the reason for this
woman's experience. Keep up the good work, benbo Junior. That
is very interesting. I'm not gonna lie that one kind
of took me by surprise and it was not something
that we discussed in or that the Internet has really
proposed as a potential cause for this outburst. Let's call
(03:30):
it again. We don't perfectly have corroborating resources agreeing saying
that this is what happened. This is definitely a woman
that was having an orgasm for whatever reason at this concert.
But the idea of being overcome by the work by
being triggered. We've been talked about hyper sensitive person syndrome
or or disorder condition where people can be very sensitive
(03:54):
to stimuli. Matt, I believe you pointed out the idea
that music is just sound vibrating traveling through the air,
you know, and literally taking a bow and vibrating a
string that is then transmitted through air, you know, in
the form of waves that can hit our bodies, and
you know, you would necessarily think that it would be
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powerful enough to cause a physical reaction without some sort
of really intense, you know, pa system that might really
you know, send massive waveforms in the form of like
subwolfers or base frequencies that we can definitely feel in
our bodies. But the idea of an orgasmic epileptic seizure
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really got me thinking, and so I kind of I
did a little bit of googling and found a research
paper called orgasmic epilepsy and it was from J. Salha, R.
Carpizo and Jay Berciano, and it was published by the
National Library of Medicine National Center for Biotechnology Information. And
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here the abstract. We studied a forty one year old
woman who had nocturnal somatosensory seizures followed by orgasm. The
inturrichtal EEG showed discrete left central parietal region paroximal activity
that markedly increased during sleep. Eight electroclinical seizures were recorded
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during sleep polygraphic recording. Orgasms occurred coinciding with generalization of
proximal activities no abnormalities were found on serial neurologic examination
or computed tomography scan. The attacks were completely controlled by
anti epileptic drugs. So yeah, I mean, I didn't find
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a whole ton of information out there about this, and
I really would love to dig in and read this
study more in depth. But it does seem to speak
to this idea that certain seizures can cause this this
type of reaction, and I also, in looking for this
found the reverse can also be true, that people can
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be triggered into having seizures by having orgasms. So I
don't know, have y'all heard anything or read anything about this,
or you know, or the inverse.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah. Yeah, Most of the research that I have found
is about the link between an orgasmic experience and possible
triggering of an epileptic seizure, which makes sense. Luckily, it's
not super common. But if we notice that anxiety and
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stress can be triggers for a seizure, then we also
have to remember that there are two different types of stress.
Despite the fact that most people mean stress in a
bad sense. In today's nomenclature, there's you stress and there's distress,
distress being the bad one. You stress being the good one.
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Your body can still experience wear and tear in great
moments of sustained joy.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Absolutely, I mean, and they're just sort of two sides
of the same coin. And it's interesting because we don't
really think of euphoria as stress exactly, but I mean,
at the end of the day, it is something that
affects us in a very all consuming way. And I think,
(07:30):
you know, thinking of them as kind of two sides
of the same coin is interesting. I mean, you stress,
you know, can cause motivational upticks and you know, being
able to kind of power through things and sort of
like I guess let's think of it as like get
up and go or whatever, or just you know, like
excitement rather than upsettedness or dwelling on negative things that
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can cause you to go into a shutdown.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Is this like the zuomis when my dogs get as zuomies,
it's the human zuomies.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, exactly. It's a flight or flight response.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Because it really does seem like it's it has to
occur when when one of my dog's meadow gets the zuomies.
It's it's uncontrollable at least is what it seems like
to me. Sorry, I was just trying to apply it's
something I've actually experienced.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I think that's that's no. I think that's that's appropriate.
And you know, it gives I mean, obviously humans don't
exactly run around in circles, you know, whacking their tails
or whatever. But it does certainly, you know, the idea
of you stress. It can be almost have a healing
quality to it, or give you kind of superpowers, you know,
or make you feel like you can do anything. It Also,
(08:41):
it's not necessarily going to last as long as distress,
which can be a chronic you know, syndrome that you
can't control, uh and U. Stress usually requires some kind
of catalysts, right. Obviously, distress can as well. People that
have just generalized anxiety. You might not know what's going
(09:03):
to trigger you, you know. And and again we're not
talking anxiety and epilepsy are two very different things. We
just know that, you know, folks who have epilepsy can
obviously be triggered by things like flashing lights or other stimuli. Again,
I'm not an expert on this, but it does seem
to me if you could be stimulated by something visually,
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you know, you could also perhaps be stimulated by something sonically.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, and we I think we were gonna make space
here to note for anybody listening tonight who has experienced
epilepsy in one form or another, the literature indicates that
epilepsy can, through a variety of factors, lead to a
lower incidence of sexual desire or arousal. And some of that,
(09:54):
I mean, the studies aren't one hundred percent water proof,
but some of that seems to be partially due to
some anti seizure medications, and then other parts are still
a relationship to science is trying to suss out. But
we do know, of course, epilepsy can trigger, you know,
behavioral changes. I mean, the brain is such a complicated thing.
(10:19):
People still aren't certain how it works, even now in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Well, I think that's interesting, Ben, the idea of maybe
your brain might prevent you from being as sexually stimulated
because it knows that that could bring on an undesired effect.
So it's almost like a safeguard.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right, Yeah, that's an interesting thought. Yeah, I could see that. Again.
Of course, we want to give the disclaimer, Like you
said earlier, we are not experts in this field, but
we do know statistically a lot of us here listening
today or tonight, have encountered epilepsy, have seizures yourself. You
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may know someone who has epilepsy. And luckily, since the
research is ongoing, people can increasingly lead existences with a
better quality of life. Do you guys know anybody who
has epilepsy?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
The used two in high school there was a young
woman who had epilepsy and she ultimately did pass away
a very untimely manner due to that. Oh and actually
my partner's former roommate also had it. But you know,
folks like that that have that, they really have to
be careful about the kinds of stimuli they expose themselves to,
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which is also why nowadays you will see trigger warnings
before movies if they're going to be scenes where there
are like, you know, strobing lights, And you know, folks
like that can't always go to concerts because they don't
always give you that warning. So you got to be
careful about the situations you put yourself in because of
those things, those triggers that you might not be in
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control of. Matt, do you ever know anybody.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I can't recall knowing anybody that dealt with that?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Well, we all know somebody now because we know Benbo Junior,
and we appreciate the perspective from someone who's very well
versed in this You know in this condition, you know
from firsthand experience. So thank you for the email, and
we're going to take a quick break. You're a word
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messages from you.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
And we have returned without compromising any identities. Shout out
to my old friends and gave you the street name
Louis a while back. You know who you are. Louie
lives with epilepsy and has as a result, had to
adjust some things, including struggling about whether or not to
be able to regain a driver's license. So pull in
(12:56):
for you man. Our next peace correspondence comes from ghost
back Dog, and this is an excellent email. It's a
little bit thorough so we're gonna allide over just a
couple of these, but give you the sense of this.
I think this will be an interesting conversation. Ghost Batdog says, Hi, guys.
After six months living in a media desert, no TV,
(13:19):
minimal internet access in the big Woods of northern Wisconsin,
I have been binge listening to your awesome show the
past few days. Thank you, GBD. We'll call you for short.
I was struck by a comment in your show on
the rent to own industry that it seems just one
step in a move to make us all renters of everything.
This has been a strategy since colonial times, when Europeans
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turned small holder farms of whatever in the tropics into
eventually migrant farm workers, mostly by getting them into debt
and then taking their land. And then GBD gives a
shout out to a novel called The Singapore Grip, which
I haven't read. I don't know if anyone else has,
and then also points out an instance in India in
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November eighth, twenty sixteen, when the government outlawed most Indian
currency in an attempt apparently by big tech to collect
rent on everyday transactions in India, which has traditionally been
a largely cash based society, and points out this now
we're paraphrasing, GBD, says Van Donna. Shiva points out, when
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you're using cash, the value of one hundred rupee note
is still one hundred rupees, no matter how many times
the bill changes hand. But when pavement goes digital, the
digital gatekeeper collects a portion or a veig of those
one hundred rupees every time it passes from one place
to the next, and this leads GBD to the question
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Ghost Batdog says, I wonder if the repeated American coin
shortages are a trial run by the the US government
in collusion with big tech to try the same thing
in the United States one of these days, and follows
up with an example regarding this shortage that GPT experienced personally.
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Do you all remember the coin shortage? Did it affect
you guys at all? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You can, yeah, yeah, you couldn't pay cash anywhere especially Yeah,
that's fair, right, I mean that was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I guess that's in terms of getting changed, you know.
I mean, you know, but it seems like places have
been going cashless for a while since the pandemic, So
I guess maybe I'm sort of already used to sort
of a cashless economy.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I think that is on purpose.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh, we talked about that too, and I don't disagree
with you. It certainly behoves certain folks for that to
be the case. Certain folks being you know, platforms that
facilitate cash less transactions and can take their little as
you call it ben.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
VIGOROUSH No, I can't. I mean credit where it's due
was along. You just always go with the full word,
which I.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Love if I just I think it's because who was it?
There was a character in a film who had the
name vigorish. I want to say, I can't remember who
it was. It wasn't usual suspects. That's verbal kent. But anyhow,
watercolors in the rain. We can speak to the idea
of this coin shortage, right, so, yes, one hundred percent,
(16:26):
the future of currency is going to be cashless for
a while, depending on how long the current house of
cards remained stable. But if you look at the official
reporting regarding the coin shortage, the response from these governmental
sources is this the Federal Mint wanted to prevent employees
(16:50):
from contracting or spreading COVID, so they closed down coin
manufacturing during the time. That's that's the official explanation. And
for a lot of people that doesn't quite you know,
that doesn't quite do it. If you are already kind
of gun shy about all the information you have to
share to use a credit or a debit card, then
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you could see this on as a further attack on
the anonymity of physical currency, and you know, we all
saw it here in the West. You would see places
that say, hey, we're not giving out quarters right, or
we're out of quarters, we have a shortage of change
exact change only, or to the earlier example, we're cashless.
(17:34):
I think the explanation of tamping down on COVID, I
think that makes sense. I think it holds water. But personally,
I can completely see why someone would say there's a
cover up of foot I don't know. Doesn't it make
sense though, because so many things close down. Maybe they
said we just don't want to accelerate the spread of
(17:55):
this infection.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I mean that certainly makes sense to me. Oh absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
We've got We've even got the us MET in the
Federal Reserve saying, quote, this is not a conspiracy to
go to a cash list society. This is simply a
disruption that has caused the limited recirculation of the coin
so that it's not as readily available. And if you
go places now, most places are not going to tell you, hey, Bud,
(18:21):
we don't have any quarters and we're gonna keep this
one short. But before we move on, I did want
to open one more bag of Badgers. It's a flag
we've been raising for a while, and I don't want
to strike it any patriotism here in the United States.
But why do we still have pennies? Just get rid
(18:42):
of them, you know, Canada is right. They cost more
to manufacture than their worth, even after they were changed
to like a zinc core or whatever. Like when's when's
the last time you used pennies?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
I don't exactly, but you know, you guys is going
to sound very wasteful of me, But to me, pennies
I almost look at them like trash. Oh no, they're
just gross.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
You don't like touching pennies, ben No, I wash my
hands immediately after.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's weird. I know, I can't help it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Cow weird. They're gross, man. And where do you find them?
You know, usually you fish them out of couch cushions
or in like dirty cup holders in your car when
you're like cleaning it, you know, I mean, they kind
of they're like rats.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
They're the rats of the currency world. Yeah, but they
were once like the one dollar bill. I mean, they
were the equivalent of the one dollar bill for a
while inflation.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Man. You know, penny candy used to be a thing.
I mean, my walkeet stick. I need to shake my
fist at the full moon because I don't go out
during the day. But that's another interesting part, you know. Honestly,
it's part of why I will always walk around with
a backpack, because if I pay cash for something and
someone gives me a bunch of change, I just don't
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want it on me. I don't want it in my pocket.
I know it's crazy, but I feel hold it for you.
You'll hold okay? Great? Great. The real dilemma is the quarters,
because quarters retain usefulness, right I could you melt.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
All those suckers down into ammunition if you.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Have that's a go wow down, Matt, Wow. Hold on
a second, you're onto something maybe not even ammunition, but
no now, but that they're not as copper as they
once were, isn't that true? They're like not pure copper right?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Uh? The pennies, the penny I think they still have
copper in them, but they're their core is zinc, So
maybe another example of shrink flation.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
And zinc is a pretty common uh element, you know,
in terms of lots of nails are coated with a
zinc and it's sort of like a very you know,
common easily accessible sort of hardware metal. But what I
was getting at, and you got me excited that for
a second, was like, man, if pennies, I don't leave
in a lot of copper on the table there. We
should melt them all down and then just sell bricks
of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, there we go. And and also, hey, don't take
this as us saying throw out all your pennies. They're
not all created equal because the material composition has changed.
If you get the right penny from say nineteen forty three,
it will be worth much more than one cent. It
could be worth over a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
What has it been? Phil philogy?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh yes, oh oh, we have to we have to.
It's a word for the day now, Okay, it is
philate phil it's not philadi it it's not fallacious. It's different.
It's so close. Uh oh, numismatist. The other one that
sounds like fillatio is a collector of stamps.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Stamps, that's phililtis.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, okay, so great, we've we've invented the perfect unnecessarily
nerdy and debriation test.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
There. I can't I can't imagine.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Anywhere else un called sober and still couldn't think very
many people could outside of the community.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
That's tough. I could say super califragilistic expialidocious before I
hit those uh double l's in stamp collecting. Well, we're
going to pause it here because ghost Batdog you raise
an interesting question. One conspiracy appears to not not be
one hundred percent true. One does appear to be a theory.
(22:28):
The US coin shortage during the pandemic was most likely
due to trying to stem the spread of COVID nineteen.
But the second one, the idea that there are powerful
forces pushing us from an ownership to a service and
fee based society. I think all of us unanimously agree
(22:52):
that is true. I mean, how many people listening to
the show today are just realistically never going to be
able to own a house?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Right? Why are car manufacturers so hot on selling you
subscriptions for stuff that's already in the car video game DLC?
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How many more examples do we want anyway? Micro transaction
micro transactions, So we want to hear your big folks,
give us your take on the ownership the rental or
service society?
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And we're back strap in. We are all in for
a very sobering and serious message from an anonymous person.
We know your name, Anonymous. You have called in before.
We're just going to keep you on for this message.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Here we go, guys, a longtime listener, a long time caller.
It's a serious topic I want to touch base with
right now. I'm afraid that this little experiment called the
United States as we know it is about to end
everywhere you look. I want you, guys to cover what
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the bricks nations are and a relationship more mirroring NATO.
The fact that Russia and China just shook hands on
fourteen different accords, the fact that Saudi Arabia is joining
them in going to a monetary system that is backed
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by gold, which the United States hasn't done since nineteen
seventy three, which means that they will not be using
the American dollar to be trading in oil and such.
So our dollar is going to be basically worthlessening turn
us into a third world country overnight, and our current government,
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love them or hate them, is using the people of
Ukraine to launch a proxy war so we can do
illegal research in illegal labs, creating illegal viruses once again,
all set up by Hunter Biden years ago when his
(25:29):
happy was the vice president. Now all of those facts,
they've all been proven. I'm just laying it out there. Man,
we need you. Just come through for me, Come through
for America. I don't care what side you fall on.
I fall right down the middle. God bless you guys.
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And oh man, anyways, if I'm ever in Atlanta, I'll
stop by the local and buy you guys around. You
deserve it.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
God bless all right, A fellow intellectual and fan of
chicken wings. I see, well, we welcome you, Anonymous to
the local. While while the getting is good, I'm very
interested in that. What about this in specific struck you
as a downer? Was it the idea of the collapse
of the US as a superpower and like a unipolar
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world with the petro dollar?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Well, I mean you can hear it in Anonymous's voice,
like how serious he feels this is right? And if
the things he's saying are true, well, then being members
of this here old United States could be a personal
problem for all of us, I guess, you know. And
Anonymous is pointing out very some very real things like
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the situation going on where it does appear that there
are several other superpowers around the world that are teaming
up to be anti United States, and the power that
this country has kind of held sway over the world
for a while, including a new currency that would replace
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potentially the petro dollar within those bricks nations, which is Brazil, Russia, India, China,
South Africa, I think others as well.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Been Yeah, it used to be just brick, but now
it's bricks countries. We're talking about. The fancy word for
it would be a unipolar, bipolar multipolar world. Right during
the Cold War, the world was seen as bipolar, meaning
there were two superpowers or poles, the USSR and the
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United States. The Cold War, of course, is so bag
of badgers. But I think what we're talking about here, Anonymous,
is the idea of the petro dollar falling to the wayside,
which removes a huge power. One of the United States'
biggest powers is economic. It is that it functions as
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the world's reserve currency, just like some version of English
is the de facto common language of business. These are
just true things. We're not bragging here. If China and
Russia really are making a deal, they're kind of strange
bedfellows because China, while having clearly imperialistic expansionist aims like
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look at Belton Road initiatives sometimes called Silk Road two
point zero, do they want to be chained to the
quagmire that is Russia. I hope I can give a
little bit of not optimism here, but maybe maybe lighten
the mood a little bit for anonymous and for us.
(28:44):
It's the following. Even if things go sideways and we
get in a food bar situation, we have to remember
is that the passage of history in the world of
geopolitics is almost always determined by geography. The United States
is in the catbird seat. The two countries abutting the
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United States are on board largely with the US. There
is a united North American continent. There are also two
cartoonishly huge oceans between the US and It's and it's
dangers right it's rivals. This I means changes.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, but we're talking about economic warfare, right.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Warfare is economic well.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
But you don't need to cross oceans for that, right.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Right, yeah, which is why Taiwan is such a hot
spot right now and why they're spinning up chip manufacturing.
I just I think the reports of Chinese and Russian
cooperation are a little bit more pr than they are actionable.
Got you, That's that would be my argument.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I hear you. I've because I think we're all in
the same position, relatively anonymous when we look at the
news while we're recording this episode of just pulling up
recent news articles pertaining to the things you mentioned in
your message, and one of the main ones I looked
at is from Al Jazeera March twenty first of this year.
Russia China ties enter quote new era as Gie meets
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Putin in Moscow. We remember we talked about this internally
here quite a bit when that was going down. Looking
at the dialogue, I guess, as you could call it,
that was occurring between those two countries very openly and
in a pr style way that you're describing there, Ben,
But it does also appear that there's real cooperation to
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some extent. Because none of us will know what was
really said behind those closed doors, We will only know
what they present to everybody on the outside world. We
do know that, according to Foreign Policy, Russia was working
directly with India as China was also working directly with
India to attempt to make some kind of petro dollar killer,
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or at least Russia's is said within Foreign Policy and
a couple other outlets to be spearheading that effort to
create a new gold backed currency. And you know, you
just you put those things together. In The Economist recently
they wrote something April ninth. The title of it is
welcome to a new era of petro dollar power, and
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it is talking about how it's changing. These are really
smart outlets with smart writers who are looking at this stuff.
And I guess, as just as a layperson right doesn't
know the ins and outs of a lot of these things,
it feels as though the bridge is starting to collapse.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well, yeah, I can I can see that, and I've
read some of the some of the work we're referring
to here. I will let's let's play a little bit
of a thought experiment. Because we know that Saudi Arabia
eventually will need to transform its energy game, right, we
know that Russia will have to find a way to
(32:00):
stop hemorrhaging bodies and money. We know that China is
in the catbird seat to expand across what's often called
the Grand chessboard, the stands of Central Asia, and of
course the ambitions with Southeast Asia and the Eastern Theater,
the Pacific Theater overall. But what we really want to
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look at.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
Is so dumb, I'm gonna throw some gas on the
fire here. Well, we really want to look at are
the statements from old Daddy Vladdie on March twenty third.
I want to say, at least Reuter's got to him
reported this. As soon as this news hit that anonymous
is referencing the economists and so on, a referencing Vladimir
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Putin released a public statement and said Russia and China
are not creating a military alliance.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And not to sound like I'm casting a spersion upon
the character this man I've never met, but that feels
like evidence that something's up to me. The problem is
also like what, okay, so what does China get by
throwing in with Russia? Does China need Russia? Would Russia
(33:12):
agree to function as a junior partner, which would be
kind of an inversion of history past. You know, these
are questions that to your point have yet to be answered.
I do have to also, everybody knows it. The US
has serious structural problems that are going to impede its
(33:33):
long term survival. The US is a very young country.
It is absolutely fair to still call it an experiment. However,
the US has by far the most dangerous military on
the planet by any metric. The US has the two
largest air forces on the planet by any metric. Number
one is like the Navy. Number two is the air Force.
(33:56):
Number two is the number one is the air Force.
Number two is the Navy. What I'm saying is what
I'm saying is while the economic warfare is a very
a very real and present and clear danger, we have
to realize that the United States is one of the
most effective wagers of economic warfare in all of human history.
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They took what the colonials did, and that like if
colonialism and all the economic warfare of that, if that
was cocaine. The US foreign policy created crack, you know
what I mean? And the danger there's so many antennas
and signals out to sense this stuff. We are going
to live in interesting times. We already do. But I
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am not persuaded that it's time to play taps on
the trumpet just yet. I think the US still has
there's a lot of kick in the older girl.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Because I need to work on my AMBI sure if
I'm going to play taps?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, Well I think about something like coin. We still
don't know who created that, right, we don't. We have
no idea who actually created bitcoin. I'm just kidding, we
don't know. And the push for cryptocurrency has always fascinating
me because it does seem to It got a lot
of support from unlikely places as it was becoming more
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and more of a thing, and I wonder often if
that was an alternative to potentially moving away from the dollar, right,
the US dollar, the petro dollar and those systems, as
having as we saw how it went, well we do,
I mean, and it's still evolving, right, see where all
that's going to go? But I do wonder if there
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have been already attempts to circumvent the coming shift, right,
because the US isn't always going to be in control, right,
It just won't be. It can't be. It's not how,
that's not how civilization has gone thus far, and I
doubt it will just stay for some weird reason. In
this one path.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I'm just I think thinking about this stuff, thinking about
what happens to currencies when hyperinflation does go into it
in effect, what that does to I mean again, I'm
not I'm not even thinking about it at all. When it
comes to militaries, I'm thinking about it when other countries
team up NATO style, the way our anonymous caller mentions
(36:20):
to fight an economic war that doesn't require bombs or anything.
It just requires a bunch of other people to say,
we're going to opt out of your system and we're
going to start this system. And now your system is
going to still function for you in your you know,
your region, your what did you call it, ben, your poll,
but our poll over here is going to do a
(36:41):
whole other, completely different thing, and it's going to weaken
you because.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Of the sphere. Yeah. Well, we also have precedent for this.
One of the most recent precedents, which I wish was
reported more often. We talked about this on the show.
The dictator, late dictator Muamar Gadaffi was overthrown right after
decades a very villainous activity. He was not a good person.
(37:07):
He is overthrown deposed and murdered or assassinated, and there
were a lot of vague statements about protecting our interests
quote unquote our interests or you know, human rights. All
of a sudden, the West was concerned enough to take action.
The real reason Gaddafi was deposed, the real reason the
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s hit the f there, and I don't mean San Francisco,
is because Gadaffi was quite close to creating a version
of the Euro for the African continent, which would threaten
the supremacy of the African FRONC, which was run by France.
It gave them hedge of money. And so this like,
that's what I mean when I say all warfare is economic.
(37:51):
There is like it's just saying, like all war is
based on resources, really, right, and currency is just shorthand
for resources in a more liquid form. So I would
say that while we cannot predict the future because we
are not DARPA, we can say that there are actions
that can be taken, There are levers that can be pulled,
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things that the vast majority of we, the US public,
are not aware of. And with the idea of Russia
and China teaming up, we have to realize that Russia
is increasingly becoming a rogue state in international paria. Russia
needs China way more than China needs Russia, and I
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think that's been the case for quite some time now.
Will they partnering with Also India and China don't get
along super well, so will will they be able to
navigate a partnership creating a new currency or normalizing a
new currency and traffic, energy, and petroleum exclusively in that currency.
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It's possible, it's on the table. But what will the
knock on effects of that be? Will they lead to
the fall of the United States. It's important to note
that right now, given the network of obligations and interest
and competitions the world entire, the US has high like
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if the US falls, it's gonna be partially, partially to
a huge degree, due to domestic issues. I don't think,
I mean a boogeyman abroad will still be powerful, and
these are forces to be reckoned with. But we have
to remember that old who was it he said, A
house divided cannot stand Charles Dickens, Charles famous YouTuber Charles.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Dickens, Well, I don't have a good quote for you,
but thank you for calling in Anonymous. If you've got
something to say like that for us to ponder over,
please please dial our number one eight three three st
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