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February 3, 2025 67 mins

A Chinese Corgi Cop loses his bonus. The largest tuberculosis outbreak in US history is occurring, right now, in Kansas. A Las Vegas ice cream truck is mistaken for an Immigration and Customs Enforcement -- or ICE -- truck. The AI company DeepSeek sparks a massive stock selloff. Pope Frances officially dissolves Sodalitium Christianae Vitae. All this and more in today's weekly strange news segment.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Name is Nola. They called me Ben.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the
Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.
That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.
If you are listening to our strange news program the
evening it comes out, let us welcome you to February third,
twenty twenty five. Guys, we're more than one month into

(00:53):
the new year.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
How are we feeling old?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, it's that same feeling. It doesn't feel like a
month should have gone by since the time we celebrated
New Year. So it's just odd.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yes, yes, some of us celebrate, some observe some of us.
A fellow conspiracy realists who are a little bit older
in the crowd may have taken a nap and woken
up around eleven forty nine pm December thirty first, just
to mark the passage of the New year, and then
went back to sleep. The New Cycle. Yeah, yeah, that

(01:29):
was me.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
That was me.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
The New Cycle, however, does not stop. We have so
much stuff to share with you. We're going to learn
a little bit about Sasquatch allegations and consequences thereof. We're
going to talk about some videos. We have to talk
about some recent dangerous moves in the world of politics

(01:52):
and in the world of science, as well as the
realm of spirituality. Before we do any of that, I
do have to give, perhaps out of the Blue shout
out to China's rule of law. It's a big problem
to keep police accountable in any country you visit. And recently,

(02:16):
you guys, the government of China SmackDown one of their
law enforcement officers. Did you hear about this?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Physically gave him a backhand.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Well, he lost his bonus. The thing is, he's not
a human police officer. He is a Corgie named Fushi
and Fuji translates the lucky boy.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Okay, all right, what's the deal? Why are they picking
on Fuji?

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Right? Right?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
So, what happened to the back of the Blue China? It
appears that Fuji, who has become an Internet sensation, did
violate the terms of his employment. He is an explosive
searching dog. We're not sure the correct term the Chinese

(03:09):
government would use. Yeah, he's a corky.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
So okay, I guess they're really leaning into the aesthetics
for their bomb dogs. They're going for the cute factor.
It would see and say that's a cute dog.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, And like a lot of law enforcement there he
gets a year end bonus, or he would have, because
you see, just recently he was supposed to be given
a lavish gift package including Harrying pumpkin soup, dumplings, meatballs
made of rabbit, some Chinese other Chinese delicacies.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I would eat all of those things, just saying, you.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Know, you know what I mean. And now we're going
to go real quick to euro News with Oman al
Ya Yai, who tells us that this poor guy, this
poor officer, did not in fact receive his bonus because
of his his on the job behavior, which included taking

(04:08):
naps and peen in his football.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Bad boy I love all Matt shaking his head right there.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
You're so disappointed. And food is it? Fuji? Yeah? Fui?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
See Officer Meadow who hangs out in my precinct last
night she decided that she's going to jump on the
counter and eat half of a frozen pizza before it
made it way into the oven. The encounter.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah for a big dog.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Wo is currently incarcerated in dogjail, and she's going to
be there for the remainder of probably this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Actually met also true. What if Fuji and MoU Dang
got together? Do you think that'd be fun? That could
be an Internet sensation of its own, like a crossover
of viral animals. Hope.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
So justice for Meadow, This for Fuji, who had all
of their rewards removed confiscated on camera. We're talking about Fujai,
not not Meadow, who was a US operative.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
They shamed him publicly.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, well you know what shame on you, Meadow. You
were caught red snouted.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
Okay for anyone who doesn't know, Meadow is a fair
haired dog.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yes, so it really was stark, Yes, And I was
at the I was going grocery shopping. Well, Grandma and
my son were playing. Oh no, they had no idea
what was happening.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Meadow. Deprive your family of a delicious frozen pizza. Snatched
it right out of the mouth of your child.

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yeah, with this, With this, uh, you know, we know
Meadow will make restitution and be a return to her
position as a valued member of the community.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
There.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
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And we have returned a breaking story. If we could, Dylan,
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Speaker 3 (06:18):
Awesome street read all about it.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Let's get into it. Yeah, let's get into it this way.
We all remember the seminal American Western Tombstone, right, of.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Course, also a very popular brand of frozen pizza callback.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yes, callback, well done. We also remember, of course, the
breakout character, the breakout star of Tombstone, Doc.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Holiday, portrayed by Val Kilmer. He's all of our huckleberries.
I believe our.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Good friend Alexis agreed to go by the moniker Doc
Holiday so long as we only introduced her as code
name Doc Holiday sometimes Doc when we were hanging out, right,
and Doc Holiday from Tombstone suffers from what was called consumption.

(07:08):
Consumption is the street name of that era for tuberculosis.
Tuberculosis is a very nasty disease, and we often think
of it as a condition that is relegated to the past. However,
as we have learned recently and want to report now,
the United States of America is currently experiencing the largest

(07:32):
outbreak of tuberculosis in all of this young nation's history.
And it's happening right now as we record in Kansas.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Wait, we're in Kansas. I didn't think we were in Kansas, and.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
We're not in Kansas anymore, but we're talking about Kansas.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
It does seem like this is another and a series
of stories about supposedly eradicated diseases popping up seems a
little on the scary side. I don't want to be alarmist,
but didn't we also just discover a new case of
measles here in Georgia for the first time in decades.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
As well as AVM flu. It's coming back. We have
to talk about this larger context. Let's drill down to
the Topeka Capital Journal as well as Esquire, which has
published a pretty good summation of this. Both sources quote
Ashley Goss, who is Deputy Secretary at the Kansas Department

(08:30):
of Health and Environment. Speaking to the Senate just yesterday.
Goss noted that public health officials have documented sixty six
active cases of tuberculosis in Kansas City, Kansas since twenty
twenty four, in addition to seventy nine what they call

(08:52):
latent infections. Most of the cases have been focused in
a single area in Wyna Dot County, with a handful
in nearby Johnson County. And the crazy thing is, if
you go to the CDC numbers, this outbreak dates back
to twenty twenty one. Apparently they just stopped giving public

(09:15):
reports on this kind of thing for a while. Now,
what does this mean for all of us listening tonight?
It means that, like you said, Noel, these seemingly these infections,
these diseases that were once thought to be historical footnotes

(09:36):
or historical horrors, are very real. They're very much in play,
and we now have to ask, you know, why is
this happening now? And how can the United States address it,
especially given all the recent proposed cuts to public health
and to the funding thereof.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, that's really it's upsetting. Do we know how many
infections they are tracking like actively?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
We know that they are.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
We know that local medical professionals on the ground are
attempting to compile at exhaust of list. But it's incredibly
tough because the recent presidential administration has paused all public
messaging from the CDC.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Oh geez.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
And if I'm not mistaken, it seems to be focused
or the case is largely focused in what's called by
the CDC and at risk community in a densely populated
urban area.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, and people are attempting to quell public outcry or
alarmism by noting there's a very low risk of infection
to the general public in these communities. However, tuberculosis is
caused by bacteria. It's caused by Micobacterium toulosis, and it

(11:01):
spreads through the air when someone actively infected coughs or
speaks too close to you, which may remind some of
us of a thing that happened just a few years
back and continues today. It rhymes with bovid.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Mmmm. Hey. And speaking of guys, do you mind if
we throw in another little thing that's happening with the
Department of Health and Homeland Security or whatever it's called
Health in Human Services.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
I think that's still Oh, we must, we must.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's not Homeland Security. Sorry, I see HS. And that's
what I think about. There was there was a very
recent story before or maybe during the spending freezes then
all the chaos that's kind of happening on the American
political front. Health and Human Services announced that they were
going to provide a five hundred and ninety million dollars

(11:49):
grant injection, if you will, into Maderna to develop a
vaccine specifically or vaccines, the same mRNA vaccines that you
for COVID, this time for bird flu. And it's this
weird place that we're in that we're kind of talking about,
hinting at where we are unsure as the public and

(12:10):
as people who are consuming the news on whether or
not that kind of money is still going to get
injected into a company like Maderna and whether or not
that research is going to happen. But it is a
bit I don't know. It weirds me out knowing that
there's over half a billion dollars going from the government
to Maderna for bird flu.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Right because it's a private entity, and I want, Yeah,
we're going to explore that larger context as well. We
do have to point out before anybody gets too spooked
by this, there is a vaccine for tuberculosis. It is
not commonly used in the United States, and we do

(12:51):
know quite a bit about I like the phrase consumption.
We do know quite a bit about it because of
its historical it's historical villainy. You know you are at
a higher risk of tuberculosis if you travel to countries
or regions of the world where TV is common, or

(13:12):
if you live and work in settings like prisons, nursing homes,
elder care facilities, homeless shelters. Obviously, if you hang out
with someone who has active tuberculosis, or if you have
weakened immune systems due to health conditions or medications, you
may be taking Why are these notes important? That last one,

(13:35):
that last footnote there is crucial because a lot of
people right now have a weakened immune system due to
COVID nineteen and they may not be aware of.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Long COVID right after whatever the knock on effects.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Just so they may not be aware of the full
consequence of this. Because you can feel better when you
are not actually better. Please do check this out. Our
thoughts go out with everybody in Kansas, every honestly everybody
across the world, because it seems like these infectious diseases

(14:15):
of old are simply increasing. And I have a question
for you, guys, is this increased perception of an outbreak
due to the hazards of modern civilization. Is it due
to better reporting methods or are we looking at a
genuine rise in infections of various things across the board.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well, it's a little weird because tuberculosis, as you said,
is a bacteria based disease, and a lot of the
things we've been nervous about or hearing a lot about,
have been viral infections, right, So fighting it is a
little different. Preparing for it is a little different. And
you know, with tuberculosis, every kid theoretically gets a BacT
for that when you're coming up. That's one of those

(15:03):
things that's in the you know, if you think about
the MMR and all these other things that you get
when your child is coming up. As an American, if
you've got healthcare, they recommend all these vaccines to you,
and this is one of them. It reminds me of
the time when anti vaccination prior to COVID nineteen was happening,

(15:24):
right when that was very popular, and there were these
pocket outbreaks of things like tuberculosis and other diseases that
were eradicated. But they're very small usually and taking care
of pretty quickly, so it does hope. It does feel
like that's kind of what this is an isolated incident
in one place to me, at least.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
That would be the hope.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
We know that last year, in twenty twenty four, the
US saw around eight seven hundred cases of tuberculosis, and
we're pulling these stats from the CDC. We know that
tubercular has been steadily declining at least in the US
since the nineteen nineties. However, rates have been increasing troublingly

(16:10):
enough over two thousand and one to twenty and twenty
three slight lull in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty
five baby rull the dice. The problem with tuberculosis is
it's not a bacterial infection that just you know, makes
you poop or need to drink more water, have a
bad time. It can kill people and.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Just really quickly. You know, you had mentioned been the pause,
the you know, government mandated pause on mass communications from
the CDC, mandated by the Department of Health and Human Services,
and you know that is meant to be temporary while
you know, the new administration installs a new head of

(16:53):
HHS and that is potentially going to be our fk Junior,
Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who, as you know, a bit
of a sordid past in his perspective on certain vaccinations.
You know, I mean, whatever your personal beliefs are about vaccinations,
I think we can all agree that some of them
are pretty important. And he has also, you know, done

(17:17):
some slightly dubious, no more than slightly dubious financial dealings,
in depriving people of HPV vaccine in an efforts to
enrich himself. There was some sort of a case against
merk the pharmaceutical company that produces this drug, and he
essentially benefited from it. And I just wanted to point
out that his cousin, Caroline Kennedy recently published a pretty

(17:42):
scathing open letter describing him as unfit for the job
and as being a predator and talking about his past,
you know, dalliances with drug addiction and how he's describes
him as a dangerous attention seeker with dangerous views on vaccinations,
and describes him someone who's unfit to be the nation's
health secretary. So I just thought worth mentioning that with

(18:06):
these kinds of things on the rise, it does seem
like it would be great to have someone in charge
that believes in science.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
That's all yeah, And that's I think a salient point there, Noel,
because again, what we're seeing here, the reason we're bringing
this into our Strange News program now is because these
kinds of infections, any kind of communicable disease, it doesn't
really vote, it doesn't really practice a border necessarily, except

(18:39):
for apparently foot and mouth disease in the Darien Gap
check out our series on that. Instead, what it shows
us is there is tremendous advantage to having someone at
the watchtower, someone who can see the overall lay of
the land, the forest that is comprised of the these

(19:00):
various outbreaks. And it's safe and easy and dismissive maybe
to hold these very limited things and say nothing will
go wrong because it's not affecting you right now. However,
we do have to flag this kind of stuff because
if there is not a larger scope possible to monitor

(19:23):
this stuff, then they can quickly these infections can quickly
become a true health crisis, and no one knows when
that will stop or how to build sort of a
medical firebreak for it. Right now, as as we speak,
the tuberculosis cases in Kansas will hopefully be contained. Our

(19:47):
thoughts go out to everyone who is struggling with this.
It does paint a larger contact. And we'll just tease
this for a moment. What happens if the US becomes
Balkanized the way Putin and Alexander Dugan always wanted it
to be. In foundations of geopolitics? What happens if a

(20:09):
state succeeds. We hear this all the time again, just
to tease it's happening again, you guys, there's something moving
on the ballot over in California for California, one of
our favorite states, to secede from the US in twenty
twenty eight, just a qulsome fear. I don't think it's

(20:31):
gonna happen. Do you guys think it will happen?

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Ever, it takes a lot, right, I mean, what's the
mechanism in place for doing something like that?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
There is none, and I think so there is no
legal mechanism to secede. It only happens via force, really
and without consent from the federal government. But the pickle
of it is the bag of badgers here is that
you can put anything on a ballot in a democracy
if you wanted to say all Frisbees will be replaced

(21:03):
with case ideas and that will be the law of
what's a fun state Delaware.

Speaker 5 (21:09):
Then everybody at Dell State, right, everybody at Delaware could
be totally on board with voting.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
For a thing, and then the courts could smack it down.
So again, to sort of reassure all our fellow listeners here,
we don't think states will succeed. Forces in Texas have
certainly tried and will likely try again in the near future,
but for now it seems like it will not work. However,

(21:40):
the news can be confusing. That's one of the reasons
that we do this program every week. Even your local
ice cream truck may come under suspicion in these chaotic times.
With that, we're going to pause for a word from
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Speaker 3 (22:03):
And we have returned and been the perfect tease for
a pretty bizarre story that on its surface is you know,
kind of offbeat and a little bit light, but it
sort of speaks to so much larger issues, first and
foremost being the widespread proliferation of misinformation on social media.

(22:26):
Viral posts on various social media platforms identified a Las
Vegas ice cream truck with an admittedly law enforcement adjacent
theme as being a vehicle belonging to Immigration and Customs
Enforcement or ice. It led to the owner of the truck,

(22:49):
Billy Settle Myers, a former mechanic who went into you
actually built the truck and designed it and gave it
this kind of law enforcement vibe as a way of
I don't know, it's a little odd. I'm not gonna lie,
but he did.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
It.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Seems like his heart was in the right place. He
felt that there was a need for a feeling of
safety around ice cream trucks. You know, this being a
trusted ice cream truck, and even potentially folks seeing his
vehicle from a distance in traffic might be more likely
to drive safely, you know, in certain neighborhoods where the
ice cream truck would be roaming, which is of course

(23:25):
the kind of areas where there would be school children
walking home from school every day. This is what he
had to say about this case, Ice and Border Patrol
don't use trucks from nineteen eighty five. The name of
his company is ice Cream Patrol. A person posted on
social media video of Settle Meyer's truck driving into a

(23:48):
neighborhood with a caption, please be on the lookout for
ice cream trucks. They play music to get people to
come outside. This is actually so sick. Other people reposted
this image with other captions including, you know, warnings about
impending mass raids and deportations and of course with the

(24:10):
way things are going with the new administration, these are
very legitimate fears, and so it it. You know, I
can understand why people might assume this, but as with
the fires in Los Angeles, it's just so easy for
this kind of misinformation to spread and for people to
repost it instantly as fact. And it just points out

(24:31):
once again how important it is to do your own
research because it put this man in jeopardy, you know,
at risk, because ICE is not a very popular agency,
and they are beginning to appear, as you know, a
very aggressive enforcement wing of an administration that is not

(24:52):
is openly very you know, unkind in rhetoric and in
policy to immigrants and know, legal or illegal or otherwise.
Oftentimes they get kind of lumped up into the same
bucket and treated whatever their legal status might be. So
there's a lot, a lot of folks very very upset

(25:14):
about the heightened kind of temperature of this rhetoric that
could potentially put immigrants who are here very legally at
risk alongside folks who are here potentially illegally.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I bet that ice cream truck gets a lot of
business rolling up and down you know, the Vegas Strip
life for real, just like oh ice cream? Yeah, I
imagine a lot of people going for it.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
I mean, we understand the fear too, right, because that
is this is occurring during the time of great and
not unvalid paranoia. You know who hasn't heard an ice
cream truck and thought, yeah, I'll get myself a treat,
you know what I mean. I still I don't know
about you guys. I barely even eat ice cream, and

(26:00):
I still get excited just to hear one roll down
the street.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
You know.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
It's such a percible, spontaneous human opportunities.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, yeah, well, Settlemyer, I had this to say. I
kind of feel like a target. People have to stop
and realize with social media, how many people are going
to see their video and the repercussions from it are dangerous. Possibly, thankfully,
of all the wonderful customers I have in this neighborhood.
They came to my defense and I really appreciate that
a lot. And again to your point, Bent, it is true.

(26:30):
Last week, as of our recording of this episode, the
actual ice arrested about twelve hundred people across cities in
the United States, including Chicago and Los Angeles.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
And Atlanta and Atlanta we talked about that in part
two of our episode on the Darien Gap.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Please, that's absolutely correct. There are, however, no indications of
these types of arrest taking place at that scale in
Las Vegas, and a lot of the social media posts
indicating that this truck was a checkpoint indicated some sort
of checkpoints and there are none of those two be
found in the Las Vegas Valley. So, you know, I

(27:11):
think it speaks to as we as we're saying, misinformation
spreading wildly, you know, on social media and across the
internet being so important, as I was guilty of with
the with the fire buckets thing, so easy, especially in
a time of heightened paranoia and concern and your heart
being in the right place, to just repost something like
this or talk about it on a podcast. It's just

(27:31):
more important than ever just to do your vetting and
double check your sources and make sure that this stuff
is real, lest you put an agency like the the
Los Angeles Fire Department in harm's way. You know, people
who are trying to do good work, or an individual
who's just trying to sell some ice cream. I'm just
an ice cream man, That's what he said. So moving
on to an interesting story for me, because I just

(27:56):
watched the film The Taking of Pellam one two three,
which is a fabulous this nineteen seventies heist movie about
a subway train that is hijacked in New York City
by some nasty dudes who hold the passenger's hostage and
are asking for a million dollars from the city government.

(28:16):
If they don't get it, and the time that they've allotted,
they are going to execute a passenger every minute on
a minute.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Past and soft note for everybody just now hearing about
this film, which I believe we mentioned on a previous recording,
I sure did a million dollars was a lot more
money back.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, definitely. It's just a great film if you're into
like things like Dog Day Afternoon and you know, just
I don't know. The seventies are such a golden era
for the cinema verite kind of stuff, and it is
a heist movie, but it's very funny, it's very exciting.
It doesn't feel dated at all, and it just really
kind of made me focus in on this story is
it's not about a hostage taking situation, but it is

(28:57):
about a situation that maybe happens more than we might realize.
A New York City R train from the New York
MTA was stolen and taken for a joy ride very recently.
The theft was discovered Saturday, as we record, by the NYPD,
and according to the police, MTA employees told officers that

(29:18):
people had entered an unoccupied train that was being stored
on a type of track that isn't connected to the
main you know, transit lines. It's sort of like a
I don't know, like a waypoint, sort of like a
little hub where out of service trains are kept. It
was operated for only a short distance, and the assailants
also broke numerous train car windows. They also blacked out

(29:38):
on board cameras using sharpies, which I thought was an
interesting move. I haven't really heard about that one, but
you know, you heard you see it in the heist
movies A lot of times they use like spray paint,
but Sharpie's works just as well. There is a video
shared on social media that shows them inside the conductor's cabin,
which is of course where the throttle is for the
train that operates it allows it to speed up and
slow down. There are, of course, as you'll see in

(30:01):
taking a PELM one two three if you check it out,
safeguards in place to keep collisions from happening, to keep
trains from exceeding certain speeds, et cetera. While they're doing this,
one of the assailants or I guess the suspects, is
seen operating the controls, while another one sits on the
very front open door of the train with his legs

(30:22):
dangling over the tracks, with a third person standing behind him.
All of this is really echoes Pellam one two three,
except there aren't any automatic weapons and no one was
on board the train, thankfully. The NYPD said the R
train was left secured on what's called a layup track
at the seventy first Avenue station in Queens, and again
that is something that's used for storage of trains when

(30:42):
they're not in service. The R train number was ninety
one oh eight. It was left secured but unattended by
MTA personnel. It would seem that the thieves had knowledge
of operating these vehicles accessing them. It would appear that
it was accessed us using MTA keys. So is it

(31:03):
an inside job? Again? Tell them one, two, three yo
where they stolen. It doesn't seem like a crime of opportunity.
It's really odd how much forethought must have gone into
this for something as boneheaded as a joy ride. Transportation
expert Robert Paswell told CBS News they obviously knew something
about both where the train was and how to operate

(31:25):
the train and how to get the keys. Once you
start it, he says, it's just a simple throttle, and
you use the throttle to move it and to slow
it down. The social media video that I mentioned also
does show the train being operated at a super high
rate of speed, though briefly and authority say the intruders
were wearing black masks and black clothes and they did
cover the camera lens. As I mentioned, Once MTA workers

(31:48):
determined that the train had moved by monitoring, you know,
they've got like a blip on these maps for every
train in the system. They went to the Queen's train
Yard to check it out and analyze its black box data.
This after the suspects had fled the scene in order
to figure out where it had been taken for how
long you know, if it had gone elsewhere beyond where
it was left. One last thing, An MCA spokesperson said,

(32:11):
New York City Transit is working with the NYPD on
their investigation of this incident. And as I mentioned at
the top, this isn't the first time this happened. In
September of last year, two teenagers tried to operate unoccupied train,
also in Queens and ended up crashing it. They damaged
the car. They were seventeen. They were charged with reckless
endangerment and criminal mischief in the incident. It does also

(32:33):
appear that this case is being treated similarly as a
case of reckless endangerment and criminal mischief. What do you
guys think about that sort of a pointless heist, Like,
what do they gain from this? They're dressing like they're
out to steal something, But is there something that we're missing?
Is there something that they did again very pealam one

(32:53):
two three, beyond the eyes and knowledge of the MTA
and the NYPD is this some sort of subterfuge, some
sort of diversion, so they were like pulling off some
other crime. My mind boggles at it.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Guys, possibly as a personal fan of the concept of
Okham's razor. Sometimes people just take a joy ride, right,
That's that's the reason why we have that word in
this language. We we can often assign a larger thing.
And I do think your your question is incredibly valid there.

(33:28):
It is quite possible that there were there were other
factors at play, maybe that are not being reported by
the media. I would argue, however, that with the information
we have, it seems that this was a dumb stunt.
And it further seems that, like you said, the most

(33:48):
instructive part about this is to realize these kinds of
situations occur way more often than one might assume.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, not any anything to I just I gosh, it
just seems like a lot of effort to go to
to find the proprietary keys, to get into this thing,
to know where it's hanging out, to take it for
such a brief joy ride, and to be all masked
up and doing all this haisty stuff. I don't know.
Maybe you're right, Ben, it is the simplest possibility, you know,
being the most likely. But Matt, you got anything to add.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I'm too much of an old man to even consider
this really, because in my mind, it's something you do
in the days of social media for clout and for
to show a video to your friends. That's all. It
seems like to me.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Like TikTokers who are walking into people's houses in London
just to film themselves there with no ulterior motive other
than getting scores in the dopamine casino.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Quite possible. Gosh, guys, it didn't even occur to me that.
I mean, who would have been around to film the
video other than the crew themselves.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
The heist crew, And that's what they're right.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Didn't did not even cross my mind. Of course, that's
what happened. It was a total internet clout fiasco. It
seems most likely to me. You're right that they did
it for clout, did it for clicks. But also they
can't claim it. I wonder where it was posted. I mean,
it had to have been posted anonymously.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
It, Yeah, that's what That's what was happening on TikTok
with all the kias that were getting boosted for a
long time there, you would take a video of yourself
boosting a Kia and that was the exciting thing that
you got to show off.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
I don't know, nor guys. No, no, you're you're you're
get off, get right off our lawn. You you kids?
Uh yeah, it does. The CBS News article, by the way,
just mentioned that the thieves posted the joy ride on
social media, but I don't have a link to the
original post. It's been like screen grabbed, so I'm not

(35:52):
quite sure if they claimed credit for it or if
I mean, obviously they're still being saw it, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
There there was a comment from a commuter talking about
how dangerous this could have potentially been for just you know,
MTA users. Imagine somebody is in front of the train
right now and they're hanging off and then say the
train stops, they can fall on the tracks and the
train would run over them. It would be over social
media too much of the phone, said another commuter. And

(36:23):
then they do mention that if you see something, say something.
NYPD's got a crime stopper hotline one e one hundred
and five seven seven tips or for Spanish language one
eight eight five seven piece stop. I think I'm at time, guys,
I did just want to mention another story really quickly,
just about search for Sasquatch causing a dude in Canada

(36:43):
in British Columbia to essentially lose his seeking of alimony
of spousal support because in his search for Sasquatch he
went on a camp out trip with an ex girlfriend,
to which his wife responded with the suing for divorce.

(37:04):
He also claimed that injuries from subsequent Sasquatch expeditions caused
him to not be able to work, and therefore claimed
that he deserved spousal support. The judge, however, indicated that
with all of this time you're spending searching for the Bigfoot,
you probably could have spent that time working. Also, in
court documents, the gentleman claimed to have a above average

(37:28):
IQ to be quite the smarty pants, and the judge
also claimed that if you're so smart, these injuries should
not prevent you from getting like a desk job or something.
Not to mention the sizeable collection of sasquatch books and
memorabilia paraphernalia femera that he seemed to possess that you know,
probably relatively valuable as well, so sort of a silly story.

(37:49):
But you know, if you're gonna hunt for sasquatch, do it,
do it on your own time. I guess, don't bring
the courts into it. Probably not the best move on
this guy's part.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Oh you guys, I just heard there's that gathering of
the in the desert thing that's happening again this year,
and I think Bakara David Bcaerr is going to be
there this year. Guy from Expedition Bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, over the check out our earlier interview with him
a few years back. What a tree storyteller.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Not really past the story, No, But if you're ever
passing through the North Georgia Mountains around about l a j.
Check out Expedition Bigfoot. It's super cool and worth your time.
Well that's it for me, y'all. Let's take a quick
break here, a word from our sponsor, and then come
back with some more strange news.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
And we've returned, let's get a little doomsday music. It
is with a heavy heart that I report it is
now eighty nine seconds to midnight according to the Bulletin
of Atomic Scientists.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Well that's no time at all, Matt.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Eighty nine second, less than a minute and a half. Oh,
dear gentlemen, what is the bulletin of Atomic Scientists?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
I'm so glad you asked, Matt. The bulletin of Atomic
Scientists goes back to the idea of doomsday clock, right,
which was created created in the wake of nuclear weaponry
deployment what we'll call the atomic age and generally now

(39:28):
are pal Jack O'Brien. I was talking with him about
this earlier. He has some strong feelings about the doomsday clock.
But the bulletin of the Atomic Scientist, I would say,
is legit because they are performing a public service. They
want people to know about threats to humanity overall capital

(39:49):
h humanity from things like nuclear weapons, also things like
climate chaos, and perhaps increasingly important in these our modern evenings,
emerging technologies, including so called artificial intelligence.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, there you go, There you go. Is founded in
nineteen forty five. You can think of the Bulletin of
the Atomic Scientists and their doomsday clock as the long
tail regret of the folks who developed the nuclear weapon
or you know, the hydrogen bomb. You know, it's literally
Einstein and Oppenheimer and the folks at I think it

(40:28):
is the University of Chicago who actually developed this stuff
through the Manhattan Project. And what they do is they've
got a clock that says, hey, this is how close
we are to well, at first it was to nuclear devastation,
to some form of global nuclear catastrophe, but now they
take into account basically all of the things that humans

(40:50):
are doing and they kind of tally those together, and
the clock represents how close we are to destroying ourselves
essentially or the planet entire eighty nine seconds. The move
is literally one second. It was ninety seconds to midnight,
And the folks at the bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

(41:11):
are essentially saying, hey, everybody, even a one second move
at this time is a big deal, and we are
just signaling that there are unmistakable this is a quote
unmistakable signs of danger that national leaders and societies are
failing to change course on. Yeah, just pointing that out there.

(41:33):
It's happening. It's a quote stark signal because the world
is already perilously close to the precipice. Isn't that poetic? Yikes,
Before we get into the reason, like one of the
major reasons I think this is important to what it's
something Ben just hinted at let's give a quick update

(41:54):
on a story that we did in the past on
the Sodo Lithium Christiane Vite. Oh. This is a series
of episodes that we put out not long ago about
a Catholic sect in Peru that had a lot of problems.
Their leader, Luis Fernando Figari Rodrigo was kicked out of

(42:17):
the group by papal decree as an excite the Vatican side.
I like, yeah, the Vatican said, hey, you got to
get out. He was kicked out back in August of
last year, but the organization stuck around. And the reason
why we're bringing up is because as of January twenty third,

(42:37):
as reported by CNN and Christopher Lamb, the Pope has
officially dissolved the entire Sodolidium Christiane Vite. So the entire
organization is now dissolved. And as we said in that episode,
at one point they had around twenty thousand members, and
you know that had dwindled a bit after all of
the stuff about them in the news and specifically about Figari,

(43:02):
and now they're just gone, which is just a weird
thing to think the Pope can reach out and say, hey,
this entire thing is now void and you can no
longer do stuff if there's abuse going on, and it
seems like, well, maybe if he can do that, couldn't
he stop abuses elsewhere? Just an excellent question with a
tip of the old whatever that thing is on his head,

(43:25):
the seoun.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Tip of the cone. Yeah, yeah, it's an excellent question.
And please do check out our earlier work on this
because it's quite disturbing. It brought up a lot of
questions for us and our fellow listeners. When we were
exploring this, what we saw was for brief recap, what
we saw was this gradation of investigations and bureaucracy bedeviling

(43:53):
honestly at every step, real results from those investigations. And
as we had discussed earlier, Fagari went through several different
iterations of punishment. And when we ended the episode, when
we ended our exploration, this group was still around. This

(44:16):
group had not been officially kicked out, and what they
had already done. We get into the weeds a little
bit on the concept of lay organizations, meaning organizations within
Catholicism that are not headed by clergy. We got into
the weeds of just how ah, I hate to say it,

(44:38):
how hair splittingly tedious. It seemed to be from the Vatican,
from the Holy See to figure out how they would
address these very well proven, very well documented cases of
a system of abuse. So overall, it does seem to

(44:58):
be very good news at least that Pope Francis and
the Vatican made this move. But you know, I remember
we're talking about this, guys. It's better late than never.
But also is it not very late for that decision
to be made. I mean, Matt, do we know what

(45:19):
may have inspired this dissolution of the group.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, the Pope grewsome balls and said I'm going to
take action. That's what happened. And we knew, we knew.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
He had balls because of that special chair you have
to sit in.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Oh don't. I don't know about those special chairs. All
I'm saying is, and that's why I think it's important,
is because this is a positive move for for somebody
in that high seat to be able to say, hey,
this is going to be over now. And we've seen, actually,
this Pope take a couple of actions like that already,
So hopefully it's a trend that moves towards fixing major

(45:59):
issues that occur within the church. In organizations attached to
the church.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Well, I mean it does seem like, with the gravity
of this kind of stuff and just the nature of
leadership and the Catholic Church, the too little, too late
argument is tough because it takes the right person to
come along and actually make effect change, you know, like
you have to have a hope that is progressive enough
and that sees this stuff is important enough to address,

(46:23):
and you're not always going to have that. So I
don't think I think it's a very positive thing, right.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yeah, let me see it's positive, it is. The question
is better late than ever. There's also the larger question
of which I think you're you're you're alluding to so
excellently here, Matt. The the Solidita is sort of we
could think of it as a franchise or a spin

(46:49):
off right of Catholicism overall. The question then becomes for
a lot of survivors of abuse, what next, you know,
your holiness? Will will there be will they be similar
scrutiny and accountability applied to the calls that were coming
from inside the house more directly?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, well, that's the hope, right, And with regards to Fagari,
his attorney reached out to CNN or CNN reached out
his attorney responded, and the attorney emphasized that Fagari quote
maintains his innocence and pointed out that he has not
been convicted in a court of law for the allegations,
which is another issue we talked about in the show.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Right, he kind of just got this permanent vacation right
more or less?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Well, yeah, because a lot of parallel court system. Yeah,
because in a lot of the issues that we're talking
about here and the potential things for the Catholic Church
to handle, they would handle them internally and there was
you know, a lot of it would not be happening
in a court of law. The hope is that that
might change again, just hoping.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
There's so much maybe the right word is inertia, maybe
the right word is momentum, But there's so much internal
theft that occurs within Catholicism and within a lot of
spiritual hierarchies of this size, where the first question people

(48:19):
ask is sometimes not we how do we protect the innocent,
but first it's how do we protect our institution? How
do we protect the church? You know, it reminds me
of for anybody's read the stand by Stephen King. There's
a moment where the US government decides to cover up

(48:39):
an outbreak of a very dangerous infection, and one of
the kind of JSOK guys at the top says, if
you find something terrible has happened to your institution, which
is your parent, yes you will, you will address the tragedy,
but first you cover your parent's body. And that's a
terrifying thing because it is quite apt in these sorts

(49:01):
of social dynamics, I would argue.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
I would agree, oh yeah with you there. So, guys,
jumping back to the doomsday clock and this concept of
eighty nine seconds to midnight, one of the existential threats
that humanity faces is a general artificial intelligence man creating
something that is synthetic, that is smarter than man, that

(49:26):
is far more powerful than man, and that is connected
or rather interconnected through various systems that we use for everything.
That is one of the things that humans have to
grapple with because that thing could spell our doom for doomsday. So,
as you're hearing this on Monday, February third, the week before,

(49:48):
some strange stuff happened. Some strange stuff got announced and
the way that we exchange money and generate wealth out
of nothing. That system was rocked a little bit, and
that's it kind of gives us implications for the future.
So let's dive in here to the old stock market
and the I don't know, the race for general artificial

(50:11):
intelligence and all of this stuff, and the people who
want to use AI as the way to make money
and make industry stronger, faster, and more efficient. So if
you jump to the week before that is the week
of Monday, January twenty seventh, and to even get to
that week, we have to go one week prior to

(50:32):
the week of January twentieth, so we start here. There
was a massive rally on AI related stocks. Let's say
that's chip makers. That's folks who are building the giant
you know, the chat GPTs of the world. So the
all of these companies, Microsoft, now everybody's kind of embroiled
in figuring out how to make the data centers, how

(50:53):
to get the power to the data centers, how to
make the chips strong enough to make the AI systems function,
and especially at scale, all of that. On the week
of January twentieth, there was a huge stock rally because
incoming US President Donald Trump announced this thing called Stargate,
Another Stargate, a different stargate, Stargate, a new AI.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Yeah it's not the movie. Yeah, it's the movie.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
No, it's not the movie. It's also not Project Stargate,
which was the thing we talked about on this show before.
This was a new adventure, let's call it a joint venture,
which essentially was a five hundred billion dollar investment from
the United States government into companies that are building infrastructure
for AI. So it's a it's a private sector plan

(51:41):
to inject half a trillion dollars. And it started out
with one hundred billion dollars that would be given granted
for this stuff, and then another four hundred billion dollars
that would kind of be doled out over time as
you know, specific subprojects within Project Stargate were we're doing
really well well. So that was huge. And investors, you know,

(52:05):
because anybody can just buy stock anybody that wants to.
You could become an investor in an Nvidia if you
want to. And boy, howdy have people been investing in Nvidia.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Holy, it is a massive growth stock.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Up to this point, it's been like, you know, one
of the hot buys of the past, you know, a
handful of years.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Right, specifically because they're building the chips, the computer chips,
power processors that can function at speed and with enough
of them connected together at scale to make these these
things that will eventually be you know, general artificial intelligence
very likely, but are right now used in these in

(52:47):
these large language learning models like chat GBT. Well, that
same week, this startup out of China called deep Seek,
which is the origins are a bit unknown as a
private company. Some of the folks involved are known, but really,
like where are the money's coming from? Where, like what
they want to do with it? Nobody knows, right, And yeah, exactly,

(53:11):
it's a little hush hush, and we are in this
giant battle to make the best, fastest, cheapest version of
this thing so that it can scale the fastest. Right. Well,
they announced that they have a free AI assistant, a
new version of their AI assistant that they've been developing
for a long time that can use less data overall

(53:32):
at a fraction of the cost of things like chat GPT.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Well and a fraction of the necessary resources.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Right passing and power.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Right, this is all of the narrative, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yes, yes, and guys, by Monday, January twenty seventh, Deep
Seek in this new AI they just announced had overtaken
chat GPT and downloads from Apple's app store. So like that,
like it just happened. It was they announced it, and
then everybody downloaded it exactly and the big old pot.

(54:08):
And when that occurred, it caused investors to get really
afraid because all you know, if you imagine, like the
big investors, not just individuals, these companies that have these
these giant pools of money, they bought into Nvidia at
such scale that a lot of them started scaling back
just enough because they're not They didn't lose all their
faith in Nvidia and all these other companies and Microsoft

(54:30):
and Chat GPT, but they did think, oh, this could
be the disruptor, the real disruptor, right a little bit.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
They chose a so think of it like a horse race.
They chose their horse, and their horse was proprietary, closed source.
And that is the fulcrum of the conversation now. And
I love that we're getting to this because again, legislation
as it stands is not equipped to handle or to

(54:59):
really dress or litigate these sorts of technological breakthroughs, especially
with everybody. Everybody is kind of playing uno are a
card game with the pursuit of AGI artificial general intelligence.
That's sort of the golden goose. That's the rough beast

(55:20):
slouching toward Bethlehem. As I think was Yates would say,
what are we learning here? We may be learning that.
I don't know, man, it's Is it not a little
bit hypocritical that inoal for some of the proprietary generators

(55:40):
of llms like open ai to argue that deep seek
is ripping them off.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Oh well, yeah, it's an arms race.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
But wasn't there a story that indicated that deep seek
may well have been trained using some pre existing models.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
There's all kinds of scuttle butt occurring right now about
that because they're not the only folks in town. Ali
Baba just announce their own thing that is also cheaper
and also you know, more efficient and can do all.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
This Baba being massive more like an Amazon kind of right, Yeah,
PRC's Amazon basically.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
We Also I love arms race because I would say
where it's it's a race to the bottom of affordability
and a race to the top of accessibility.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Yes, and it is.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
It's fascinating because there are very different ways to use
this technology, reasons to arm you know, either a citizen
or let's say an army, a navy with this type
of this type of service. And the whole reason we're
talking about and why it is kind of an arms race,
because what if we learned over time when thinking about
stuff like the Vietnam War, thinking about Afghanistan and the USSR,

(56:54):
thinking about Ukraine right now and what's going on, the
expenditure of resources by a large country group in power
is often the way that country is drained of their
military might because they have no more resources to put
into manufacturing the weapons of war that would be used
to fight. In this case, with this simple announcement and

(57:17):
then everybody's reaction to that announcement, in Vidia lost in
a single day five hundred and ninety three billion dollars
worth of market value.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Yeah, and Matt, I'm sure you saw this is being
called a Sputnik moment.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Oh yeah, exactly, Like somebody they it's a brand new thing,
but it's not really a brand new thing, which I
don't know really, it's not really spending mo. It's a
I would I would say.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Well, Sputnik wasn't necessarily, I think, because there was a
lot of technology leading to that, and that's what's leading
to deep Seek. And you know, I love that we
started this part with establishing the somewhat imaginative nature of
investing in the stock market overall, because we're really quantifying

(58:05):
faith in the ability of a company, are we not.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Yeah, yeah, Well, it is also weird that in Vidia's
chips were used to build deep Seek, just the chips
that were like a couple generations back that take a
lot less power to function, and there's a couple other
cool things about that.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
They're a lot less finicky as well because it's proven technology.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Yeah, exactly. I'm gonna give you a quote here that
was in the Reuter's article. Reuter's article is deep Seek
sparks AI stock sell off in video post record market
cap loss, And here is a quote from Brian Jacobson,
the chief economist at Annex Wealth Management. He said, quote,
if it's true that deep seek is the proverbial better
mouse trap that could disrupt the entire AI narrative that

(58:51):
has helped drive the markets over the last two years. Again,
all that money getting thrown at companies like in Vidia,
it could mean less and for chips, less need for
a massive buildout of power production to fuel the models,
and less need for large scale data centers. Remember we
talked about nuclear power plants coming back online just to
fund these data centers, these massive servers that would fund

(59:15):
these lms. It would, it would, So maybe that is
why it's a spunding moment, because it would fully change
all of these long term plans that are that are
being put in place right now. And who knows. The
scary thing to me, guys, is that that happened on Monday,
January twenty seventh. Then the next day Tuesday in Vidio,

(59:36):
stock rose back up, not fully to where it was,
but it rose way back up, and then it fell again,
and then it rose back up a little bit. And
it does that and people are making fortunes and losing
fortunes in days time because of human concepts of what
is going to happen, just people's own nerves about what

(59:59):
the future holds.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Right, that's not even counting short selling, that's not even
counting you know, the various different financial I almost said it,
all right, the various different financial loop de loops you
can do. You know it will slide a hand, close
up magic of trading at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
And none of it is real money. It's all speculation
that creates money in money, And dang, guys, if we
can do that, you could we could literally solve the
major problems that humanity faces right now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I feel you, man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
I keep coming back to that too. I was I
was re listening to because I'm actually a fan of
our show. I was re listening to a conversation we
had earlier last week about the nature of being a billionaire.
Things are booming for billionaires right now. You have everybody's
life is sort of a choose your own adventure paperback

(01:00:59):
to give myself a dated reference, And if you're a billionaire,
you have more choices for your adventures. So why not
fund sanitation or literacy? Why not fight disease? Things like that?
To your point, Matt, if this stuff is really as
fabricated as it does as it does seem to be,

(01:01:21):
then we have to ask about the ethical quandaries involved,
you know, And I love that you're pointing out what's
happening here. As a disruptor. Right, Imagine a great chess game, right,
or maybe even think of Chinese checkers where you can
have multiple players on the same board deep seek. For
a lot of these folks privately, it's as though a

(01:01:44):
cat walked up while you were playing the game and
just went man at a bunch of the pieces on
the board. Now what happened to all your careful plans.
You've evolved a system that is inherently, inherently dependent upon
the propriety nature of discovery, upon the idea of holding
that from the greater public right such that it could

(01:02:07):
be commodified or monetized. And someone else comes in and says, hey,
this is a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
We figured out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
We leap frog the technology a little bit, and we
made it not only cheaper for us to make, we
made it open source. So hey, bud, if you've got
some ideas, just drop by GitHub or whatever and post
them and then maybe together we can make a better thing.
If you have already expended a lot of a lot

(01:02:34):
of your nest egg, right, if you've already gambled on
the idea that this proprietary stuff will be a faucet
that you own a piece of, then this is a
very dangerous thing, even if it ends up being better
for the world overall. It's just such a contradictory cognitive
place to be, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yeah, yeah. I'd like to end with a quote from
John Mechlin, editor over at the Blotan of Atomic Scientists,
and it's going to go back to that precipice quote,
but it's the full quote, and I think this is
what's most important here. Quote. In setting the clock to
one second closer to midnight eighty nine seconds, we send
a stark signal because the world is already perilously close

(01:03:16):
to the precipice. A move of even a single second
should be taken as an indication of extreme danger and
an unmistakable warning that every second of delay in reversing
course increases the probability of global disaster. So we are
literally we're counting in seconds now, guys, to potentially the end,

(01:03:41):
not for not for you, not for me, for everybody.
So just as we're thinking about all this stuff occurring,
I don't know what we do to increase the positive
thing and to increase the the hope that we can
hold in ourselves that stuff's going to get better. But
we need it, so let's do that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
I'll tell you we should call Matt. We need Fujai
on the case, there we go the lucky Chinese Quirgi cop.
I mean, I'm giving sub levity here because I agree
with you, we need it. Each second is becoming more expensive,
not only to exist within, but to reverse the course.
What we're seeing are a wild agglomeration, or is a

(01:04:27):
wild agglomeration of factors and aims that often contradict. And
I keep saying it, but this is an elephant's making
war situation, and it's very important to remember. If you're
hearing this, you are the grass Andrew.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
And you're delicious for those elephants. You're so tasty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Speaking of this, we.

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Want to hang out with you, folks. Please do come
check out our upcoming show on air Fest in Brooklyn.
I can't believe it. We got in. You can check
us out on February nineteenth at National Sawdust. See the
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ask us. We try to be easy to find online.
You can find us via email, a telephonic device, or
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Indeed, whichever channel you prefer, you can find us at
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we're also people. I'm how now Noel Brown on Instagram,
Ben Bolan, how about yourself?

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
I can be discovered at on Instagram, at Twitter, Blue Sky, etc.
Or Benbolin dot com. Of course, if you're already on
the Internet and you're looking for someone to check out online,
check out our pal Ofira Eisenberg, whom I just love
and did some great jokes recently. So I'm just talking
about stuff that stood out to me and made me

(01:06:05):
laugh in these times where we need a little bit
of levity. Matt Frederick, how about.

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We are the entities that read every piece of correspondence.
We receive, be well aware, yet unafraid. Sometimes the void
writes back. Several of us listening this evening can attest
to that fact. But you may be saying, how do
I know it's true? How can I trust yet verify? Well,
there's only one way to do so, take a step

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