Anastasia with Anna Seregina

Jamie and Caitlin analyze Anastasia with special guest Anna Seregina, who may or may not be a member of the Russian royal family? She doesn't remember??

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, Caitlin here. I just wanted to give you
a quick intro to the episode you're about to hear
on the movie Anastasia. We recorded it live as Jamie's
Birthday Show, which we had so much fun doing. And
while the audio quality for the most part is pretty good,
there are a few times when the audio kind of
blips out for a split second, and we apologize for that,

(00:23):
But otherwise it's a damn fine episode and we hope
you enjoy cast questions, ask movies have women? And are
all their discussions boyfriends and husbands? Do they have individualism?
The patriarchy? Zeph start changing it with the beck del care.

(00:46):
Thank you so much. Welcome to the bec deel Cat Welcome.
I just context for everyone. I just got a six
pack of Mike's hard watermelon. Thank you. That's just proof
that when you get a d M saying are you
allergic to watermelon? You answer it as quickly as you
can because you never know. Oh man, what a gift.

(01:10):
This has got to be real bad, right this is
I'll be I'll be sampling it throughout the night. Welcome everyone,
Thank you for coming to be here for for Jamie's
Birthday show. It feels like we're and we're caught and
we're recording it. It's not my birthday for a month,

(01:31):
but for the sake of tonight, we're cosplaying as if
it is my birthday, and the episode will be released
pretty close to your birthday. Yeah, so suspend your disbelief,
don't cancel me. It's not necessarily my actual birthday, but
feel free to give me gifts. I think is the

(01:54):
real takeaway. So we're doing one of my one of
my favor movies tonight. I'm so excited, Anastasia. Oh but
let's get some business out of the way first. My
name is Caitlin. My name is Jamie. We talked about
the representation of women in movies on this here podcast

(02:14):
at the end there. Oh we Well, we use the
Bechdel test as a jumping off point for discussion. What's
the Bechtel test? Uh? What if I was like, I
don't know, I can answer a question. The Bechdel test
is a media metric designed by cartoonist Alison Bechdel uh
sometimes called the Bechtel Wallace test, in which there must

(02:37):
be an interaction between two named female identifying characters and
they have to talk to each other for two lines
of dialogue about something other than a man. I wish
there was like a mathematical equation for like what we
just said, because it sounds like math. Right, It's like
a square plus B squared equals C squared. That's theorem. Hello,

(03:03):
so it's not. She's a master's degree, so keep up.
Let's let's demonstrate it. Okay, Hey Jamie Caitlin, I got
you a birthday gift too. Really, here it comes. I
don't know I didn't wrap it. Oh my god. Wait,
this is so cut. Describe it for our listeners at home.

(03:25):
This isn't what if I was like, I love it,
thank you. It is an enamel pin of rose from Titanic. There,
thank you so much, thank you. It's the moment where
she looks up and she sees Titanic for the first
time and she's not that impressed, and she's like, it
doesn't look any bigger than the Martinia, and then cal ak.

(03:50):
Billy Zane is like, oh si, it's long. It doesn't
because you said cal but oh, I guess we finished
a while ago. There. I'm sorry. I just's okay, sorry.
I can't look at this without thinking of Billy Zane
and that is tragically my feminism. Another surprise, so much,

(04:11):
is that I got one for my stuff. Oh, I'm
so happy that I'm gonna I'm gonna fasten it on
right now onto my little suit. Sodaying. I'm wearing a
little suit. Thank you. This is welcome, truly, I can't.

(04:33):
I won't leave home without it ever again. Um, that
was all our business, right, I believe, so business? What
the show is business? Oh, clap if you have been
to one of our live shows before, and then clap
if your if your friend dragged you here, Yes, very

(04:53):
brave of you, and all right, by round of applause.
Who has seen the movie Anastasia? Okay, good? Is there
anyone who has not seen it? Clap your little paws together.
It's they just apologize. It's okay, listen. I what I

(05:14):
think that women should be doing more is apologizing. And
so I really welcome that in the room. Uh yeah, yeah, No,
it's okay, it's okay. I've written a recap, as I
always do. It's I think the longest recap I've ever written.
I don't know why. It's not a movie. It's not
a long movie, but the story is so rich and

(05:37):
also I mean it's I would say it's more or
less historically accurate. Yeah, if you're familiar with the you
know Russian history, you know this story inside and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
To join us in our discussion, We of course have
a guest. She is a wonderful person. She is a
hilarious comedian. Please give it up for an Oh my god, wow,

(06:06):
I mean to grab a. Mike said literally grab mis
feeling crazy. Thank you for being here, Thank you so
much for having me. Of course, So Anna, what is
your history relationship with the movie Anastasia or Anastasia as
a historical figure. Wow, it dates back to yesterday when

(06:30):
we watched it together, and so in that it is
rich and uh luscious and historically bound and I feel
very rooted in it. Also, um, and I'm Russian and
my name is Anna, and really it's Anya. So people
when I moved here, people were like, oh, like the
like Anastasia, you know, just like that, and so I'd say, well, yes,

(06:55):
so that for a long time I just didn't watch it.
I think that of that, I was like, I'm different
times of protest. There's that movie called Caitlin that I
refused to watch. Yeah, there's there's a Jamie in a
Walk to Remember, but she dies? Is she the She's

(07:16):
the one? She's Mandy Moore and she and she she
dies to teach Shane West a lesson, which is a
plot device that I love. I love, I think you
should do. I can't wait to die one day as
to some guy can learn something, yeah, just to make
him a little nicer in college. My history with this

(07:41):
movie is that I saw it once. It came out
in nine seven, so I would have been eleven. I
must have seen it when I was eleven, and then never.
The only thing I remembered was that there was a train.
I didn't remember what happened with the train. I just
knew there was a train. That's the only thing I remembered,
because I only thought that once, and then I have

(08:03):
rewatched it three times now in the past few days.
I know it's fun. This was one of my favorite movies.
The movie came out when I think I was like
four or five, and I was like the Target demo
because it was really loud, like there was a lot
of music, and I was like really scared of rasputing.
But I kind of also had a crush on him,

(08:24):
of course you really like. I love the rasputing character.
And I remember telling my mom. I was just like,
why are there toys of him? And she was like,
I don't know, and but there's I would say some
of the maybe this is I just got nervous for
some of the sexiest cartoons. Uh. And because this isn't

(08:44):
a Disney cartoon, if that matters to you, it really
doesn't matter. But it's it's not a Disney cartoon, so
it is a little bit hornier than you're and a
little better, I think than like your average cartoons. So man,
I love I saw it on ice. Ah, it was
Anastasia Ice. It was it was telling you night was

(09:08):
the first time I noticed a butt. I was like
that was like maybe a few years after that when
Annastasia was making the rounds on ice this time but
Dmitri's but oh good, alright, but there was Me and
my brother still talk about it sometimes. How at that
ice show Resbuten was on ice and his beard kept

(09:29):
flying into his mouth and he was having a really
difficult time. I love I mean, I love this. I
probably watched this movie like it's like a go to
a movie for when I'm like sick. I'll watch it,
and so I watch it. You know, I'm very sick
all the time. Great shall we shall we dive in
with the recap. Let's dive in Caitlin. Alrighty, So the

(09:51):
year is nineteen sixteen. Titanic has been sunk for four years.
Nicholas is the are of Imperial Russia. There's this royal family,
the Romanoffs. They are celebrating. So far this is accurate,
except for I think the year is even right, it's
already two years off here. But there is the romanof family, uh,

(10:16):
and they are the royal family, and they're celebrating three
years of ruling the country. And Anastasia is I think
the youngest daughter. She's this the young princess duchess, and
her grandmother gives her a music box and a necklace
that says together in Paris. And there's the next there's
I mean, there is the most annoying thing in the world,

(10:37):
poking historical and accuracies. But I will be doing it
all night. She went to Denmark, she didn't go to Paris.
But no one wants to sing a Bernadette Peters didn't
want to sing a song about Denmark. So Paris. Uh
So before they can go to Paris together, Rasputin shows up.

(10:58):
He's like he's built. It's kind of like he's like
as skinny as Jafar, that's like already dead. Like it's yes,
he is, like, yeah, he's posted. Yeah, it's hot. Yeah, yeah,
factually and historically historically hot. I was there, yeah yeah, yeah,

(11:24):
we'll be looking over for confirmation from anything you want.
Absolutely was there the whole time, right he was yes, Okay, okay,
he was hot. So Rasputant places a curse on the
Romanov family. He's holding a grudge. He wants them to die.
He's mean, and he has he sold his devil to

(11:46):
to the Green thing. Yeah, he sold his soul and
he places his curse, and I guess that's what starts
the Russian Revolution. According to this movie, he also bit
someone's ankle. Yes, yes, a huge power amazing there. I

(12:06):
mean really, it's so weird. There's been so much written
about World War One and the Russian Revolution, and it's
like it really was quite simple. What happened. Ya respue
threatened the czar and he put a curse on and
I mean we're starting a war of course, so chaos
and sues. Anastasia and her grandmother managed to escape with

(12:29):
the help of a servant boy, but she drops her
music box that was given to her. The music box,
by the way, like it's so I don't know if
anyone who was watching it like got really distracted by
the fact that the music box is clearly c g I.
But the rest is too d where you're just like,
what planet is? What plane does this music box on?

(12:50):
It looks so freaky, like the whole why did they
do that? So okay, the like flying horse at the
end is also c g I. Oh my god, Yeah,
there's like some e g I that works, Like the
and the train scene. I'm like, god, this is like
kind of effective. And like in the ballroom scene where
all the ghosts are dancing, you're like, this is fun.
But the fleshy horse I did not like fleshy horse.

(13:14):
So then Resputin drowns as he's trying to like grab
at Anastasia. And then Anastasia and her grandmother are headed
to safety, but in all of the chaos they get
separated forever or not, maybe we'll see. And then Anastasia
bumps her little head and right she's like, I forget. Yeah, yeah,

(13:37):
she forgot it gives her amnesia for a very long time.
So it's ten years later. Now we're in St. Petersburg,
we're under Joseph Stalin is in power now effect that
is not not mentioned at all, and at this point
he's hot and that's actually the trail. Yeah, yeah, okay,
we tell we take your word from please. Yeah there,

(13:58):
I mean he did the facial hair. You know, it's
under discussions under so rumors are being spread around that Anastasia,
who was thought to have died in Rasputants revolution, uh
that he got ankled by it alone, but he that
Anastasia might actually still be alive, which she is. She

(14:21):
goes by Anya now, but she has no memory of
her former royal life and she has no idea that
she is Anastasia. The only clue that she has is
the necklace that she was given that says together in Paris.
So she decides to go to St. Petersburg and tries
to buy a ticket to Paris to discover her family history,
but she doesn't have the proper documentation. So someone tells

(14:43):
her to go find this guy Dmitri to help her out.
John Cusack, John Cusack This is one of the like
sexier cartoons in that I think cartoon history, because he's
got he looks like John Cusack at that exact moment,
like he's got the middle part and he keeps flopping
his bangs. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Like

(15:06):
that's sickos grous. So we learned that Dmitri is a
con man and he is in the process of auditioning
actors who look like Anastasia to pretend to be her
so that they can take her to Paris and get
the reward that the dowager Empress is offering. And he

(15:30):
also is in cahust with Kelsey Grammar. Yes, yes, his
name is vlad sure. Um. My favorite part of the
movie has went later on the Grandmother's like, Dmitri, I've
heard of you, as if Dmitri wasn't one of the
most common Russian names, just like someone walking and being like, ah, yes, this, Joey,

(15:56):
I've so Dmitri has Anastasia's music box and we're like,
how do you get that? But this gives him a
leg up on bringing an Anastasia like person to the Empress.
So then Anya shows up to where Dmitri Is and

(16:18):
he's like, hey, you look just like Anastasia. We think
you might be her. She's like, I don't know, maybe
I don't know, I don't know. This whole scene happens
while she's standing next to an oil painting of Anastasia herself,
and she's like, could be a cart But then she

(16:40):
decides to go to Paris with them, rationalizing that like, hey,
maybe I am Anastasia and maybe I'm not, but there's
only one way to find out. Well, and also they
were able to like get her the documents she needed.
It seemed like if she didn't play ball with this
plan she had would get into the parent right. Meanwhile,
Raspute and remember him? Ever heard of him? He is

(17:04):
still alive sort of yeah. He a lot of like
cartoony body horror, very graphics stuff. Well, the rest prude
and stuff is like this movie has like some like
tonal dissonance issues where they'll be like the serious scary
happened to Anastasia and then you'll like cut to rest

(17:25):
Spute and being like my plan didn't work, and then
he'll rip his face off and like throw it on
the ground. Very spooky. Verry tom Waite's sort of bones dancing.
It's great. And his side like kept trying to call
it a side piece, but sidekick, you know, he's got

(17:47):
this classic side piece. It's it's a nude bats. Yeah,
it's and I know all bats are nude, but like
this one's I mean, well, it's an albino bat. It's
got a little bit of a luscious, small, lushious body
that's also hot. I love my curby bat voiced by

(18:11):
Hankazaria with an accent that is to me problematic. Yeah.
I don't know what he's trying to do, but it's
not right. Whatever. And we'll talk about the accents in
this movie too, because we were checking. We were checking
with Anna last night for they checked any sort of

(18:31):
realism to it, and it looks like no. To be determined, Okay, teaser.
So Rasputin is stuck in this like hell limbo place
because Anastasia survived and he has a horcrux. He's basically Baltimore. Yeah,

(18:52):
and he's also sort of living in the same place
Scarf from The Lion King lives in. It's just kind
of like a rock den and it's there's green fog,
but instead of Hyena's there's bugs, yes, um. And then
he has the bat friend bar Talk, who helps He

(19:14):
helps recput and get out of limbo so that Resput
and can kill Anastasia, and they sing a terrific song
about it. Really good. It rocks. It does, so Dmitri
and Anastasia and then Vlad also Kelsey Grammar are on
their way to Paris, and Dmitri and Anya are attracted

(19:37):
to each other. And then yeah, they're doing a little
bit of light n egging. I could call it heavy
little there was. It's so weird, Like I didn't realize
that until this watch, but like Meg Ryan voices Anastasia
and they're just doing a scene from most Meg Ryan
movies where she's being nagged, but she's like stop, that's

(20:00):
just kind of what's happening. So then rest mutants, little
ghost minions caused the train that they're on to crash,
but they survive and they continue onward to Paris, and
then Lad and Dmitri teach Anya how to be fancy
so that she can alien scene in the middle of
the movie yeah uh. And then she and Dmitri almost

(20:23):
kiss on a ship that sort of looks like Titanic,
and Anastasia's wearing the dress that Ariel wears in The
Little Mermaid, right, um, and also kind of looks like
the dress that the little girls in the Shining weear.
Oh well, there's another Shining reference when she gets trapped
in a maze later on. Oh yeah, so who knows

(20:45):
what's going on? So they almost kissed, but then Dmitri
was like, no, I shouldn't, and then rest mutants minions
try to kill Anastasia again on the ship. Remember when
minions were just little evil things that helped respute and
not and not cut things with glasses and keute pies

(21:08):
that I love. Then Dmitri saves her from and so
she doesn't die, and then they finally get to Paris.
The plan is to see Sophie the empassis first cousin,
to convince her that Anastasia is in fact Anastasia, or
rather Anya is Anastasia, and Sophie and Flat a k A. H.

(21:29):
Kelsey Grammar are for sure fucking which doesn't isn't really
relevant to the plot, but he foreshadows really heavily for
some reason, like he keeps bring him like Sophie. Yeah,
He's like, oh, she's a cream puff and I want
to fuck her, like, I don't know why it's so

(21:50):
important to the plot of this movie that you know
that Kelsey Grammer's character is like, for sure, fucking this
French lady, but it's really important. It's important for it.
It comes up a lot. Yes, So then Anya answers
all of Sophie's questions correctly, including one about how she

(22:11):
escaped the palace, saying that there was a boy who
helped her escape by opening up this wall because I
guess her memories coming back. And then Dmitri is like, oh, fuck,
that actually is Anastasia because he was the boy who
helped Oh hope, I hope you're not going to make

(22:32):
fun of that, because that's really nice. No. I think
it's like a really effective use of plant and payoff.
I have a master's degree in screenwriting from Boston. Take
Caitlin's course. I don't like to break it up, Okay,
So but right then, the Empress decides not to see
any more women claiming to be Anastasia because it keeps

(22:54):
letting her down in her keeps breaking her heart. So
they decide to stalk the Empress at the ballet instead,
and then Dmitri goes up to her, and he's like,
you gotta see her. She's the real deal, and the
Empress is like no, and then Anastasia overhears the Empress
saying that she knows about Dmitri's reputation somehow. Again she's like, Dmitri,

(23:16):
I've heard of you, that he's a con man who
was holding auditions for Anastasia lookalikes. So Anastasia hears all
this and she's like, Demitri, you freaking asks you used
me what a good slack? I forgot that she slack?
I always I always get something like oh, like it's

(23:38):
very exciting, it's very gratifying. And he doesn't even go
like that sucked. He's just like, I'm sorry, you have
to know the truth. Yes, It's like whoa, that's love it.
So she runs away and then take each other around
um to set things right, Dmitri kidnaps the Empress and

(24:01):
takes her to Anastasia uh, and then the Empress doesn't
believe that she is Anastasia at first, but then Anastasia
is like, you smell like peppermint, and she's like it
is you. Yeah, And then finally grandmother and granddaughter are
reunited and Dmitri doesn't even want the money because he's

(24:22):
a good guy. He's different now, and he leaves because
he's in love with Anastasia. I just handle it. The
scene where the grandma's like, did you have a change
of mind? And then he goes more like a change
of heart in your life. That's that's powerful. I don't care.

(24:46):
I'm tearing up. I'm just like people can change. And
then she's like, well, if you don't want the money,
what do you want And he's like, nothing you can
give me, which is code for like, he wants to
put his pep into Anastasia v v. Caitlin. That's a vulgar. Yeah,

(25:06):
he wants her very heteronormative. But it's fine. That's fine
for him. Change changed. So at the celebratory ball, Resputin
shows up. He traps Anastasia in the maze from the
shining and he tries to kill her, but then Dmitri

(25:26):
shows back up and helps her defeat Respute, and he
punches Resputin in the face. Yeah, and then gets attacked
by that creepy horse, and then they defeat Resputing and
then they share and we'll talk all about it's so exciting,
And then they share a kiss and then they elope

(25:48):
right away, right away. I honestly kind of respect that.
You don't see the wedding. You just see a letter
saying like, yeah, we will be back in a couple
of weeks. That's it. What if they went back to
Russia and got killed by Stalin? I'm sorry the real

(26:08):
estate should died in anyway find from this documentary that's
not true. Okay, So then that's the end of the movie.
Well you've forgotten bar Talk. Bar Talk finds a pink
bat and what a what a horrible thing to like

(26:30):
You're like, oh, the movie ended. I'm actually not too
upset about how it ended, for for a movie of
this type. And then all of a sudden they're like,
Mrs Bat is here like assault the Hank Zario bet
but he's into it the end. All right, that's that's

(26:52):
the end of the movie. Right where do we want
to start? I wanted to start by Okay, so part
of the crew. Okay. This movie was well received when
it came out, an instant classic, I am uh and

(27:13):
but but in retrospect, it is considered one of the
most the movies with the most celebrity voice miscastings in
any animated movie ever. So I just wanted to just
just a yes or no quick opinion on like do
you think, because like after Aladdin, and like after Robin Williams,

(27:36):
like this is literally a Lindsay Ellis video that came
out a couple of months ago, Robin Williams like gets
the whole celebrity voice thing kind of takes off. Now
all voice actors are unemployed. Suck it. Uh, And now
it's celebs only and this, like everyone in this movie
is a celebrity, even parts that don't matter. It's weird.
So just quick yes or no? Do you think? As

(28:00):
Anastasia Meg Ryan, what do you think? Yes or no? Yes?
Fine with me? I think yes? Okay, cool, Okay, we agree, Okay,
I'm doing easy ones at the top. John Cusack as Dmitri.
It worked, I'm sorry, ya absolutely, Okay, maybe this game
isn't fun? All right? Up next, we got Angela Lansbury

(28:26):
as the Empress. Well, the accent she's attempting is perhaps not.
I'm a no on this. She's Mrs Potts and nothing else. Yeah, yeah, no,
I mean yes to the general. Yes, I was. Here's
my note for her. A bit much, okay, honey, quick
note we actually dial it back. This movie isn't about you.

(28:51):
Um okay, Kelsey Grammar as breast Putin or no, wait,
Kesey Grammar is glad please, Kelsey Remer is flad again?
Really weird accent choices that's a no for me. Bad
accent hard, Yes, okay. I would have loved him as
Recipe and actually yeah yeah, um as that guy um

(29:15):
you know who cares fine? Okay, okay, because he's like
a little sneaky and has wild facial hair and I'm
sure sure he's His character is confusing to me for
a number of reasons, mainly because he's like, I'm a
con man, and then it's a twist later that he
used to work for the tsar, but then it's like,

(29:37):
well that's not good. And then at the end he
kind of just gets his job back even though there's
not a tzar like. It's confusing. Christopher Lloyd as Rescipues
Hard Yes, okay, I think, yes, I think Alfred Milena
could have done better. Uh. And I think that the

(29:57):
accent sounds crazy. I don't I don't even know what
a good Russian accent really sounds like, but it sounds crazy.
The accent leaves much to be desired. Um, however, it's fine. Also, okay,
hankers Area as the bat. No, I'm gonna know, I'm

(30:19):
now on the bat. It's going to be in firm No, okay,
that was That was the people I wanted to because
his accent sounds like when Russian people try to sound
American as a joke to point out how stupid Americans sound,
so like what we would do accents. It would be like, yeah,
take the baby roll and why not here we go

(30:43):
to the store of all It's it's like, it's like
so wild, It's just so weird. It's i mean, really
like Russian accents for all walks of life in this movie,
some people not doing one at all. Right, perhaps the

(31:05):
best Russian accent is the one you don't do. That's
really jazz. Wow. I hope that Meg Ryan tried to
do a Russian accent in a few takes and they
were like, just she's too good at being quirky. It's
like yeah. And then also, like, I mean, hankers Area

(31:26):
well known for being really respectful when he's doing voice works.
Just kidding. There's a whole documentary about it sure is. Yeah,
so yeah, that's who we're working with. There's also additional voices,
and also Kirsten Duns is Little Anastasia, Lacey Shabet is
Little Singing Anastasia, and J. K. Simmons is credited as

(31:49):
additional voices. I was Yeah. When I was rewatching it today,
I'm like, where is Yeah? Where is it? I couldn't
find him. He's that good. He's that good. He disappears
into the role. You can't. But he's credited in that
movie as he's just maybe maybe he plays Comrade Fleming cough,

(32:12):
which is the orphanage lady. I don't know, probably not hot.
Thank you. So we've got the cast. Should we talk
about Anastasia the character? Yeah, let's do it. Okay. So
my kind of objective take since I didn't really grow
up with this movie, and I feel like it's hard

(32:34):
not to compare this to Disney movies. They're stealing everything.
So just to kind of compare Anastasia as a character
to the like Disney Renaissance princesses of this time, I
would say overall, Anastasia is just better characterized. She has

(32:55):
more personality than a lot of them. We know things
about her like she's offinite. She tends to like push
back on anyone, like you know, giving her attitude different things.
She says to Dmitri, stop bosting me around, um, don't
talk anymore, it's only going to upset me. Uh. And

(33:17):
then she accidentally punches Demitri in the face like as
she's waking up, and then she's like, oh, sorry, I
thought you were someone else. And then she sees it's him.
She's like, oh, wait, it's you. That's okay. Then and
then he's like, oh, you broke my nose. And then
like kind of to herself, she's like men her babies,

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So you know, she's feisty, she's fun. She like actually
tells jokes. She starts like her her actual like journey
starts because she like decides to, like she leaves the orphanage.
She knows where she's going. She's sort of like playing
along with Dmitri and Vlad's planned because she needs to

(33:57):
get out of the country. So it's not like she's
not she's not completely convinced that she's Anastatia just because
I'm like, just because John Cusack was like you probably are,
She's like, well, either way, I gotta get out of
the country. So and then she uh. This was like
because I wasn't quite sure because I only watched this
movie when I'm sick, so I rarely see the end

(34:19):
of it. Um, so I I forgot like how involved
he is in like the final like big battle with
Resciput and and I was like a little worried because
the way that Seaton plays out is that resputed and
you know, he's he like throws her to the ground
and then Dmitri shows up punches Rescipue in the face,
and you're like, oh, I hope that this isn't like

(34:39):
one of those battles where she's rescued and she's just
sort of over there the whole time. But and she's
over there for a little bit, but he does kind
of have to like pull her up. It seems like
she's going to be damseled. But then but then he
kind of fails to say for a couple of times
he rescputed and is really kicking him around, and he's

(34:59):
thrown own to like the side and like passed out.
And it kind of reminded me of what happens to
Jasmine and Aladdin. Right, he's literally tossed out of the
scene and you're like, all that never happens to the
guy in and then Anastasia gets his and this is
the big vocabulary word of this movie, reliquary there. I
had the novelization of this, and I just remember my

(35:21):
dad really struggling with that word. He's like all the
minions and reciput and is one. Then really didn't care
for that. But she stomps on the reliquary three times
and she kills Resput, and yes, it's exciting. She's like,
this is for Dmitri, this is for my family, and

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I said for you, and then she crushes it and
he dies, so yeah, I wasn't. He also turns into
goop and then dust. It's a very and there's like
so many things that I like about this that, like
Disney movies never quite go there, Like they the villain
always like falls off a off and just like slowly disappears,
but they're like no, no, no, you're seeing his violent graphic.

(36:05):
When you die, you turn into goop and then dust.
But there's like he's a skeleton at some point in
between that. It's it's wild. Yeah, he pulls his head off,
he rips his face off. He's a goof. But I
did love that, you know, it seems like she might
be damse old, and that's what happens in all these

(36:26):
Disney movies. But then yeah, the the tides shift and
she's the one unlike so Jasmine, she's like cast aside
for the climax of the story. But she's also not
the protagonist of that movie aladdins. But even in like
Bell and Bootying The Beast and Aerial and The Little Mermaid,
they're the protagonists of those movies, and they still aren't

(36:47):
even allowed to participate in the climax of their own
story because it's their male love interests who come and
save the day. So I loved that Anastasia is the
one who takes the reins and act really actively defeats
the villain herself. And it just and it works better
for this story too, because it's like there's that whole
like the only reason she knows him is because he

(37:08):
killed her entire family, right, so if someone else kills him,
it's like, I mean, I'm glad he's dead, I guess, right,
But like she's the one who would want the revenge
against him. So the fact that she gets the big Cathartic.
It's an awesome scene. It's the coolest. So there's that.
There there are a few moments where like she helps Dmitri,

(37:30):
like on the train scene, like she's an active participant.
He's still kind of like taking the lead after the
train starts crashing, like he's kind of doing most of
the stuff, and then she helps. I do think that
like that. It feels mostly like a lot of times
he'll try to do something and then it will fail,
and then she'll just do it like the correct way.

(37:53):
Like that happens a couple of different times. I don't
even know how intentional that was in the writing, but
it's like kind of fun to see like this, like guy,
this like macho character over and never be like I've
got this, and then there's like an explosion in front
of him. He's like then and then anaesthesia kind of
takes Russian woman to come in and our work is

(38:14):
never done. Me. Another thing that this movie doesn't do
that a lot of Disney movies from this time definitely do,
is like really over sexualized. It's female character, its main
character for most of the movie, Anastasia is in like
this giant coat and then like, you know, she's got

(38:35):
the hat and the scarf. Still somehow she's like, look,
it's a good look. It's a very med Bryan look.
Actually it's very like chunky bangs and like a floppy hat,
like a clumsy jacket for her to be like just right,
I would say that, yeah, we see like more of
Dmitri's body than we do have hers for most of them,

(38:59):
and that's fine with me, no credit, but like resput
And and Anastasia are wearing the same outfit from most
of them, just like a belted sad you know, communism,
you know why. But then she does get a makeover,

(39:19):
and there is a shopping montage because say it with me, now,
women be shopping this movie is there's a whole shopping song.
They brought in Bernadette Peters to sing the shopping in
France song. And yeah, it's so weird because it's like
this movie doesn't like get too into like the Pygmalion

(39:40):
and like My Fair Lady references, but there's a solid
fifteen minutes where that's all it is. And so it's
all like random con artists giving women makeovers for sinister purposes.
I guess at least It's not to make her more
attractive to the man, it's to make her be able
to asked as royalty. Yeah. I mean this is like

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one of still one of those movies. I hate to
admit it, but it is one of those like nineties
Arrow movies that the central plot is a woman being
deceived and eventually fucking him. Anyways, Okay, So, because I
didn't remember this movie at all except for the train,
I was like, okay, I see them. They're negging each

(40:30):
other there. Jamie is opening her Mikes hard watermelon. I
smell it from over here. I always worried about they're
twisted up. Mike's is never trying to challenge. You know,
it's a hard lemonade, but it's not that hard. So anyway,

(40:55):
they meet each other, you can tell is it horrible?
And her had the flavor before? This is how is
it is? It's salty? Salty taste? Salty taste it? Yeah, okay,
it's overwhelming. Oh it has a really bad after taste.

(41:17):
May I taste it? Go for it? Salty bad after
I gotta know mm hmm salty. Oh I will finish
it bead after taste. Yeah. Story anyway, Okay, So the

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two characters come face to face for the first time,
Anastasia and Dmitri, and you can tell that they're gonna
be foisted together into a romantic entanglement. Um even though
he's an asshole. She knows that he's an asshole. We
know he's an asshole as the audience. He's nagging her,
he's treating like ship most of the time, and he's
also lying to her for a good chunk of the movie. Yes,

(42:03):
as I'm seeing all this unfold, I said, I bet
myself ten dollars that they kiss at the end, and
I won ten dollars. They kiss at the end. They
do kiss, but it's a hot kiss. So there's that.
Not to be a dimitri apologist, but there is a

(42:25):
lot of Okay, so what is like different about this movie?
I mean, what isn't different about this thing? But the
way the relationship is between the prince's character and like
the the guy pursuing her as it's literally a Meg
Ryan movie, which is why all those weird nineties tropes
of like being deceived, where normally it's like the princess
is inactive, the prince has no personality, and somehow there's

(42:48):
a beginning, middle, and end regardless. But they treat each
other like rom com characters, and they're like bickering and
flirting and dancing and almost kissing but then not kissing,
like it's it's like a night these romcom movie. And
then I do think that he maybe not to the
degree he should, but he does change and he's wrong,

(43:10):
express remorse and then gives her space until she decides
she wants him back. So it's maybe that's poor judgment
on on her part, but at least she decided it
because it was like, you know, when he kidnaps the
old lady, You're like, I don't know, you know, he's

(43:32):
maybe he's lawless, and maybe I shouldn't be rooting for him,
but he doesn't kidnap her in that way. He's an ally.
There's a there's a moment where Lad says to him,
um about Anastasia, Oh, she certainly has a mind of
her own, and then Demitri responds by saying, yeah, I

(43:54):
hate that in a woman. So but then Anastasia goes
she sure does, and she sure does on the train,
and I love that for her. For her, she always
does have like a really good retort. So that's not
an example of one, I don't know for yourself. And
that scene pays off Kelsey Grabber taking out this notebook

(44:16):
he has where he's keeping score Anya and Dmitri and
the raspberry does count as a point for it really does.
Actually it says so much by doing so little. We're like, okay, well,
I guess she is in the lead. She's in the lead.
So this is a feminist text. Yes, we read a

(44:43):
fun fact. Although the credibility of this website was wildly tested,
it was written by a guy named Nat, and that's
pretty much all we know about. Even offer up his
last no, no credentials, just Nat. You know, you know
how that is, and you know how he gets one
of the facts. It was like ten facts about right now.

(45:03):
You know. One of them was just wrong. One of
them was like it came out the same week as
a Little Mermaid, and you were like, that was ten
years before that. Okay, so I read something that that
person might have meant. So Disney re released The Little
Mermaid I think like a week before Anastasia came out,
and then they released a bunch of other stuff the

(45:24):
week after in a clear attempt to like to bury Anastasia.
So Nat had a point. Yes, okay, I guess what
what what was? What's what does he saying? Oh? Well, Nat,
Nat said this wonderful thing. This, this is a classic Nat.
He said that Megrian was really trepidacious about doing it,
and she did not want to do it because it

(45:46):
was like right after Sleepless in Seattle, and she was like,
I don't know if I want to do cartoons. And
then the animators convinced her, or the director convinced her
by animating a scene from sleep Listency Dolt. It was
just like, look, it can exist as an animation and
still hold it's merit. And then she got to really

(46:08):
bring her own acting into the piece, and so you
see a classic migrant trope being acted out. That's why
it's so real. And I'm pretty sure that's actually true
that they did do that, even though the credibility of
the website that was right in ninety seven is a
good year for this movie to come out, because I

(46:28):
think that Disney animated movie that year was like Hercules
or like something that I don't think did well at first.
I do love those stories where it's so fucked up,
but whenever Disney tries to just absolutely murder something in
a really obvious way, and then we're still like, but
it's fine because my childhood, Like you're like, it's not good,

(46:49):
it's scary. Yeah. I just still don't like what they
did to Andy Serkus is Jungle Book movie. I guess
that's just what I'm saying. They killed Circus with that one.
Sarcas should be a billionaire. I just sorry, I'm sorry,
I had two SIPs of a hard just going off.
I'm acting speaking of things that I found about the

(47:13):
movie Anastasia that come from my website that is perhaps
not the most credible. So I don't know how much
validity there is to this different, different way. But Bernardette Peters,
who voices the character of Sophie the emphasis cousin, cousin, yes, um,

(47:38):
Bernardette Peters reportedly said that she did not like the
way her character Sophie was designed because Sophie is plus
size and she did not apparently want to be represented
as someone who was plus sized, to which I respond,
who even knows that Bernardette Peters looks like he shot

(48:00):
up picture her? Like, No, one's like that doesn't look
like Bernadette Peters no one knows what that. What I
love about animation is that they look exactly like the
person who's voicing them, Like Kelsey Grammer looks exactly just
I mean, it's like looking at the mirror. Right. The
only example is that Dmitri looks exactly like John Kia

(48:22):
say yeah, And everyone else looks like guess what a cartoon,
except for Hankazaria, who looks just like the Bad. He
does look like the Bad. It's true, a luscious, luscious
little body, but that brings me I just want to
talk a little bit about the way plus sized people
are presented in this movie. Because Vlad is a big guy,

(48:46):
he is shown as being like extremely ungraceful most of
the time. He falls over on the train and like
that's why he can't help Dmitri, and that's why I
like Anastasia has to step up and help Demitri with
the train to Bockle, and then later on there on
the ship and he like takes the top bunk of
the bunk beds and it like stinks down so low

(49:08):
that it like crushes the dog so basically, like his
weight and his body is like played as a joke.
Several times. I feel like the same thing happens for
Um Sophie's character. It's just not good in a movie
that like doesn't seem to like punch down at anyone
else really, But yeah, and I think that that is

(49:28):
like such an older animation trope to that it would
just be like crazy to not do um and they
for some reason like choose to like play too, because
there's a million old cartoons where that happens repeatedly and
it's not necessary and it's not funny, and it's Yeah,

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it does feel like weirdly out of place in this movie.
Can I talk about the Titanic parallels? Yes, I have
the same list, I think, all right here mine and
let's compare notes a poor guy trying to make money
in Paris and a woman with red hair coming from

(50:09):
a rich family and the two of them fall in love.
The shot on the staircase, the full body shot of
the dolled up female protagonist on an elegant staircase. That
was on my list. Okay, I don't have that one.
The man saving the woman from going overboard on a
ship a necklace being a pretty big plot point. What

(50:35):
about the poor guy being dragged out of the room
being like you don't understand. Oh yeah, that's one. The
woman has a music box the end. They came out
the same year. Could it be a coincidence? Who copying? Who? Uh?
There was also there, Like, so this movie was made

(50:57):
by Fox Animation. From what you were telling me, this
is not an animation company that lasts very long. They
make this movie, it's very successful. They make one every
other movie. It's dogshit the end. That's the whole history.
And they're kind of doing I almost thought this was
a DreamWorks thing, but I don't think, like I think
this pre dates DreamWorks. But they're doing the DreamWorks thing

(51:19):
where they're just kind of stealing from Disney movies and
being like people will think this is a Disney movie.
And there's so many and that's I think part of
like why this movie is so good because they steal
a lot of really good parts from Disney movies that
came out very recently. Where like the rumor in St.
Petersburg number, which historic, I mean if you look, so

(51:40):
this takes place in Stalin is in power and this
is a musical number where the people under Communist Russia
they're like, yeah there's food rations, Yeah, life is really difficult. Yeah,
we're all suffering. And then the last line before you
get into the chorus is like, but we love rumors

(52:00):
and gossip anyways, and then they start to dance about
rumors and it's so that's true. Yeah, that's actually true. Yeah,
there's like, yeah, it's really tough about here. Thank God
for these rumors. What I'm lacking in food, I'm just
making up for a rumor. It's delicious, your fool. But

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that number looks a lot like the first number and
Beauty and the Beast where it's also like the peasants
of this community being like we're the goofs because poor people. Uh,
what else we've got, like the like female protagonists singing
her mission. I mean, Anastasia all but sings. I want

(52:47):
much more than this provincial Yeah, except she actually has
like motivation. Right, Well, that's the other thing I wanted
to talk about, Like like in Station Versus a Disney movie,
is that like and the does happen to some extent
in Anastasia, but like in like Little Mermaid where she's like,
oh she loves people culture. Uh, she wants to go

(53:09):
up where the people are. And then in Bell's case,
people culture in Bell's case, she uh wants much more
than this provincial life. She wants to go on an
adventure in the great wide somewhere. But in both movies
they don't really get farther than like the hands of
the arms of a man. Uh and Bell literally goes

(53:29):
I would say, less than three miles yeah, and has
no idea there's a castle. But the story then becomes
about like her involvement with the male love interest, whereas
I mean in Anastasia, yes she does elope with a
man at the end, but the story is more about

(53:51):
like her journey to figure out herself and her family
history and her back story, rather than like, there is
the subplot of the Roman, but it's not what takes
over the whole story. So yeah, like it another one
of the big I think we already sort of said this,
but in the dark of the night is is like

(54:13):
the same exact number as be Prepared from Lion King
to the point where it is sung by the same man.
I know you guys, okay, uh does Jeremy irons not
saying be prepared? He sings about two thirds of it,
and then he was getting a little pitchy dog on
some of them and so they bring in Jim Cummings,

(54:37):
who does all who sings entire in the dark of
the night. But but it's like, not only is it
super visually similar similar where they're in a cave and
there's green fog and there's singing animals who are standing
for nazis there, Uh, but it's also literally the same
guy singing it. It's such a blatant rip off that
I do respect it. Um. Yeah, So they just like

(55:02):
stole a bunch of like some of the best scenes
from Disney movies and just sort of retrofitted it to
fit this historically accurate movie. Yes, can I give a
brief rundown of the historical accuracy please, because it is
I mean, it is like wild that this story was
chosen to be adapted. And I guess that there is

(55:22):
like early drafts of this script that were more closer
to the real story, which when you know the real story,
seems impossible in Children Nation because what actually happened. So
in in I R. L. Resputen was not an enemy
of the romanofs. He was a close friend of the
Czarina slash fucking her. We don't know, um, but he

(55:45):
claimed he claimed to like have magical powers. He somehow
cured the youngest romanovs hemophilia with either magic or basic medicine,
we don't know. Uh. Either way, he gets a lot
of influence in the court. The Czarina really likes him.
He's a friend of the family. And he dies two
full years before the Romanos are killed, so that has

(56:06):
nothing to do with anything. The romanofs are all for
sure killed. They were all shot in a basement by
the Bolshevik government during the Russian Revolution. But like the
Resputen and the Romanos were like never on bad terms.
All the Roman kids died. The grandma was out of town,
but she was in Denmark, which is too boring for

(56:28):
the movie. Um, the grandma never looked for her family.
She was she took it. She was like, I guess
they're dead, and she was right. They were all dead.
There were some rumors that Anastasia lived and it's funny
why this is horrible, but like the rumors were that
Anastasia had maybe lived because she was wearing so many

(56:49):
diamonds that they deflected the bullets, and so she lived
and she was around, and there was one very successful
Anastasia impersonator which it looks like most of this movie
is is modeled on if it were true, which it wasn't.
But there was this girl named Anna Anderson who was

(57:11):
like poor and looked similar, and they were like the
reason they gave their like, well, she suffered a lot
of depressions, so it's probably her and and she like
wrote memoirs as if it were true. There was some
hot guy involved in the con and so that is
that's unfortunately. And also they you know, they erased all

(57:34):
the all the messy, oppressive Stalin stuff. Yes, it's so
weird that they chose to make this a movie. That's
kind of the one thing that I would say most
differentiates it from other Disney movies at this time is
that it's taking history and then really taking a lot
of liberties with it. But it is but most of

(57:59):
Disney movies were based from like fairy tales and and
you know, mythology and stuff like that, and this is
in Anastasia is taking you know, historically inaccurate events and
then making those into a movie. But it is based
in at least real life figures, which is irresponsible to

(58:19):
so wildly misrepresent what actually happened and then have that
be a children's movie, because you know how many children
will watch the movie version of something rather than like
reading the real thing at all of us. I thought
this was the only thing I knew about Russian culture
for the first like sixteen years of my life, and

(58:42):
it was like one of those things where I sort
of took it at phase value until forced to say
it allowed I was like, yeah, well he was a wizard,
but he failed, but then he died, but then he
came back. So I don't think that's the best choice
that a movie has ever made, but I would say

(59:04):
overall it handles a lot of things better than a
lot of Disney movies of its time. Yeah, I think
we're just looking at the way like it is if
this is like this company's take on what is clear,
like trying to take a little bit of whatever the
princess market is at this time, Like they do a
better job and they steal a lot of what Disney

(59:25):
was doing better than them, which I guess respect I
don't know this movie rules. I don't know. I can't.
No one's going to talk me into disliking it. So
there's four credited writers on this movie, two of whom
are women, which you have to think has to do
with because most Princess movies were not written by women,
and I don't think it really shows it all. No,

(59:48):
there's one one screenwriter, Nanni White, who also wrote newsies Tarzan,
Hunchback in Notre Da, and Two Dalmatians and worked on
The Lion King. Then there's another screenwriter, Susan Gothier. I
couldn't find her CRIDs. And then also Carrie Fisher did
rewrites on this movie. Yeah, because she was a prolific

(01:00:10):
script doctor, yeah for many years, and she would help
punch up a bunch of scripts. She was supposed to
have been the person who added in the what did
you say the name of the lady who ran the orphanage?
So that would be um, comrade Fleming cough. That's so,
I yeah, canonically as a Carrie Fisher. It's also spelled

(01:00:33):
like because I watch everything with subtitles on and the
subtitles spell Fleming cough p h L E g M
the way that flem is spelled. And she's like characterized
as like this old bag and it's like, oh, girls,
a woman over thirty five. I think that that is

(01:00:56):
probably true. And also but like over thirty five and
poor Nor because you see Angela Lansbury is kind of
like she's hot because she's right, which you know canon, um, yeah,
did you have anything else? The only other thing I

(01:01:18):
wanted to mention was rest Sputan talks about at least
three times in the movie how much he loves cologne.
Did anyone else pick up on this? It's in his song.
He mentions it later before he's about to go try
to kill Anastasia himself in the flesh, and then I
think there's another scene where you see him like sprit

(01:01:40):
sing it on. So he is obsessed with cologne. Rewatch
Anastasia Beyond Cologne. Watch. I just wanted to point that out.
I wonder if that is like a fact about I,
as someone who who has several biography as of resput
And in her home, I've never encountered that before. My

(01:02:01):
favorite respute, in fact, if you want to check it
out on and on your own, is you should look
up Resputen. He has three kids on the books, but
there there were some some side kids. I'm sure that
that his bat was, but he had three kids, and

(01:02:25):
the one who didn't get killed later his name Maria Resputen,
and she went on to be a lion tamer and
burlesque performer, and then she moved to l A. So honestly,
live your best when your dad is a cartoon villain,

(01:02:45):
what are you gonna do? Become a lion tamer and
moved to l A and burlesque performer. Yeah, yeah, and
a and a major resput and did nothing wrong at
And I'm like, I've seen the movie. Yea, I know
what he did. Anyone have any other final thoughts? Literally?

(01:03:08):
All right, does Anastasia pass the Bechtel test? Yes? It
does does right away? Between young Anastasia and her grandmama. Um,
it does pass between Anastasia and Comrade Fleming cough believe
it or not. And then I think also between Anastasia

(01:03:29):
and Sophie. Um, did you get about the circumstances of
her entire family's death? Right? Yeah? There was also a
pass between Grandmamma and Sophie right, um. But other than that,
I think that that Yeah, that's all I had. Unfortunately,
Misses the bat didn't didn't get any character. Why isn't

(01:03:53):
she name? Where is her arc? There is a directed
video about Bartalk magnificent. Yeah, it's all right, I won't
spoil anything. It's quite bad, but it is like I

(01:04:15):
think Hanks Area is one of those people who is
kind of down for whatever. He was fully back. He
didn't call in a backup. He's like, I'm available, bar
talk the magnificent. I'm in. Oh good grief. All right,
So let's write the nipple of the movie on our
nipple scale. Rate the nipple on our movie scale. How

(01:04:40):
many movies would you give this? So our nipple scale
is zero to five nipples based on its representation of
women and all things considered, I'd give it like a
two and a half or three. Were you expecting lower? Yes, okay,

(01:05:03):
I'm exciting for your birthday. I'll bump it up to
a three. Yes, okay, yeah, I think again. If if
you're comparing it to other like animated children's media of
this time, especially like a princess narrative, I think it
does handle a lot of things way better by comparison. Uh,
it's still, you know, wedging in a romantic relationship where

(01:05:27):
there doesn't need to be one. I would say it's
you know, but his haircut, did you see him? But
that's another Titanic the haircut. Oh that's true. Oh I
had one. I did have one. More Titanic parallel on

(01:05:51):
my list is men doubting a woman's identity because that
happens at the beginning with Old Rose. They don't believe
that she is who she says she is, and they're
also not sure if Anastasia is Anastasia. So the movies
are basically the same. And may I just say that
one of the songs in Anastasia was nominated for an

(01:06:14):
Academy Award but lost to my Heart will go on
our Queen. Also, it's where it's worth mentioning if you
if you like to go to places like YouTube dot
com like myself, there is like a making of featurette
about Anastasia that's hosted by Aliyah. Uh may she rest

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in peace because she if you listen to the song
at the end of Anna stage to the credit song,
it's sung by Aaliyah. She did a song for this movie,
and she does that whole like how they used to
do this weird wonderful world of Disney, but not of like, Hi,
I'm this person, you know, let's see this movie and
like she's she hosts it, so she's just stag chair

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turnaround or no no, she's standing in front of the
Eiffel Tower looking deeply uncomfortable. All right, She's like, as
we all know, Anastasia comes as soon. Let's learn more beautiful.
It's good. The Alia song is good. You should on
the soundtrack. It's snow in the dark of the night.

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I don't know that's disrespectful. Um, so yeah, I'll stay
with three and a half. Sorry, three nipples? God, oh
my god, yes, three because it does handle a lot
of things well in terms of like the princess character, um,
giving her more development, more personality, more agency, more motivation

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than a lot of other comparable movies of its time.
But it's still has some things about it, as we've
discussed that bump it down to a three, not a
three and a half. So that's so sorry. I know
it's your birthday. It's not, but it's over a month

(01:08:06):
away your birthday. But no, um. Yeah, So it's three nipples,
and I will give one to a historically accurate representation
of Anastasia, so not this movie, but the dead one.
So the dead one. Okay, I will just gave one
of your nipples to a dead eight year old. That

(01:08:27):
go off. I guess I'll give one to um, but
think of having a panic at that. I'll give one
to the dog whose name I forget, and I'll give
my phone apple to Mrs pink Bat. So I'm gonna

(01:08:49):
go three and a half, I think, I mean, I
think that in a lot of and you're saying that
this last night, we're like Disney acquired Fox and you said,
a lot of mouth breathers are trying to figure out
if she's a Disney Princess now where there's a whole
just community out there that's been like finally our princess

(01:09:11):
has been crowned, finding out that they're crawling out. I mean,
like at last she's doing Disney, so which is like
the weirdest like late capitalism, like take to have of

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like this is actually a good thing, like as unstaged
as Disney Princess. But there I mean for the like
you were saying, like for the fact that this is
a separate animation company trying to do the same format
and then they do it better, they give their character
more agency. She's funny, she's cool, she's calling the shots
in the relationship for the most part, except for, of course,

(01:09:53):
the large deception, uh right. Other than that it's all
her go. I love her. Resiputing is is an icon
of any sort, really, you name it, He's an icon.
I I like the Bat. I I feel like I
was kind of dead a little hard in the bat

(01:10:15):
earlier and in the marketing, especially at the ice show,
we had a we had a we had a slushy
in the bat's head. They were really pushing the bat
in marketing. They really want to make the bad thing,
and I we still have that cup. My dad, my
dad dreams out of that bad's head to this bad
my dad drinks out of all the on ice cups.

(01:10:37):
He doesn't like to throw things away at he he
puts coffee in the bad and then he writes about
hockey all day. And that's his feminism. But yeah, no,
I like this movie a lot. I think that it,
like is one of the best versions of this format.
So so three and a half nippies. I'm going to

(01:10:58):
give two to the cartoon Nanna Station Jesus. Uh. Then
I'm gonna give one to dmich Uh. I'm sorry, sorry,
did you I've been holding that back for a long
time ago uh. And then I'll I'll kick the last

(01:11:18):
half nip I'll give it to the dog. Dog kind
of looks like my dog. Yeah, a little floppy dog
that looks stupid. Does Does anyone remember what the dog's
name was Pa? It's Puka. The dog's name is Pouka.
Does that mean something? No, it's just it's Russian for dog. Wow.

(01:11:40):
Punts is to fart. So that's right in the neighborhood.
And that's fun. That's just fun. That's fun. I hope
they named the dog far. I was gonna say the
comrade Fleming cough or whatever. That's actually like a pretty
common Russian trope in Russian literature, especially like humor stuff,

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is that someone's name. Someone will be like an asshole
and their name will be Mr. Ship and it's just
like never addressed. It's just like Mr Ship is being
mean again. And so that's like a very very common
trip and it's dealt with like very matter of factly,
like it's not really addressed, like the Stay Sky. A
lot of times it's there's a there's somebody with the

(01:12:23):
name Mr. Ship literally, so I don't know, so that's
a for me. That's I don't know, there's some accuracy,
that's uh. And what would you rate the movie on
the nipple scale. Okay, so on the nipple scale, I
rate the movie. I think three and a half is
a great rating. I think you were wrong with three.

(01:12:44):
So what are you vote? An embarrassment? No, I just
it really is so different from other I mean, it
really rocked my world that it was not a Disney
movie because it looks so much Disney movie that it's
alarm like, how did they not get sued? Um? But
she seems like an autonomous I mean, given the time, also,

(01:13:08):
which is the turn of this? You know, the like
this nineteen sixteen, nineteen twenty six I don't know how
independent women were in Russia. Quite frankly, they were fiercely independent,
super independent. Yeah. It was actually a very feminist community feminist,
this little community feminist running around whatever, very small, you

(01:13:30):
knew everybody, all the girls were there. But yeah, she's
like at least an interesting character who's funny and stands
up for herself. So yeah, I'm comfortable with three and
a half nipples for this movie. Well, Anna, thank you
so much for being here, and thank you. Tell us

(01:13:59):
where can pe? We'll follow you online? Is there anything
you would like to plug? Um? I have a very exciting,
not yet to be talked about project involving Kiana Reeves
that will be a podcast sometime soon. It does, it
will pass the back del test, even though it's about
Kiana Reeves, even though okay, yeah, that's impressive. Yeah, how

(01:14:19):
do we identify? How do we, as women who are
obsessed with Kiana Reeves maintain our time? Uh yeah yeah, well,
I mean all you really need to know, I guess
is that by Twitter is touching Cheesus. Yes, and that's

(01:14:41):
really all I have to say for myself. Okay, thank
you follow Anna at Touching Jesus. Thank you so much,
Thank you so much. Thanks to The Ruby for hosting us.
Thanks to our very good pal Sammy recordings for us.

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Thanks to Jeff and the Tech Booth. Hell yah and
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