August 1, 2018 • 32 mins
Now that Dr. Hayes (John Schmedes) has penetrated the Dixie Hotel’s chamber of secrets, Somerhill (Daniel May) and Dr. Gottfried (Keith Brooks) reveal the hidden workings of the plot in which Karen (Hannah Fierman) has been entangled. The abusive Grath (Joe Sykes) finds Karen in the hospital basement, and a bitter grudge is settled.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The control group contains scenes of realistic violence and graphic sexuality.
It is intended for mature listeners. In the field of
psychiatric medicine, it was an exciting time, a time of
innovation and discovery, a time when mental health institutions struggled
(00:22):
to redefine themselves, to become something more than repositories of
the sick. Un Orthodox methods and aggressive therapies were not
only permitted, but encouraged. This is a record of that time.
This is the control group. Oh yeah, you're probably thinking
(00:46):
to yourself, Dr Hayes, I I've I've done a terrible thing.
I've I've betrayed the trust of a patient. I've violated
the hippocratic owth. But did you earn anything? Really, I'm
I'm asking you. Did you gain any knowledge from the experience? Yes,
(01:11):
then it was worth it. Why did you do it? Heyes,
I suppose I would. I was just curious. We place
a high value on curiosity, scientific, intellectual, morbid, sexual. It
is curiosity that fuels the learning process. The fact that
you've left the hospital, that you went there, that you
(01:36):
penetrated the mystery of that room, that you trusted your
guts and investigated that lets us know you're our kind
of man is We would like for you to continue
to work closely with the society. I think you'll find
that it would be mutually beneficial. You'll join the ranks
of some of the most highly regarded scientists in the field.
(01:59):
You'll be funded well enough that you can leave behind
the toil of the mental ward and focus on those
areas of study that bring you more personal satisfaction. How
does that sound? Are you kidding? Its sounds wonderful. Now,
before we settle you in, there is a mess here
(02:21):
that requires some mobbing up. Yeah. Right, in our field,
this kind of thing is bound to happen every so often,
and we have a mechanism for dealing with unfortunate situations
such as this. We are willing to use this mechanism
as long as we have your complete cooperation and loyalty
(02:41):
moving forward. You have it without a doubt, then it
will be taken care of. Worry no more, We will
handle everything, Doctor Gottfried, Perhaps you should give doctor Hayes
a brief history of our organization so he has an
understanding of the scale, the reach, our abilities to keep
(03:01):
our promises and to make good on our warnings. We
wouldn't want you to enter into an association with us
lightly without fully understanding the depth of that commitment. Of course,
don't mind him. He has an er adolescent fondness for
the cloak and dagger. Here may I nineteen four nine,
(03:24):
the cardinal minds into affair. He defiantly opposed communism in Hungary.
He was arrested, he was tortured, he was persuaded to
make full, not just full, a confession that was over flowing.
That's when we knew the Soviets the Chinese had developed
(03:46):
a program of behavior modification and thought control, brainwashing, brainwashing.
At that point, the United States, specifically the Office of
Scientific and Eligence, created a program in response art a joke,
(04:09):
Art a joke. You peel back the layers, you see.
We knew we needed to explore methods of interrogation, not
not torture. Mind, you never torture. We are not barbarians. Science, chemical, psychological, electrical,
(04:29):
and this this was one of our most promising weapons.
LSD is surgic acid diathe, the mite. I'd spell it out,
but that would take some time, and we don't have
enough chalk. LSD was going to be the magic bullet,
spent thousands of dollars on it, thought for control of
(04:52):
the world's supply, successfully spent thousands of man hours. You know,
I'm still not convinced that it does not have a roll.
When you are small psychopharmacology, the problem is the effect
of the drug is diminished when the subject knows they've
taken it. Their defense mechanisms kicking. They're aware that a
drug is in their system and can't help but act differently.
(05:16):
So what do you do. You give someone the drug
without their knowing it. But how do you do that.
You can't just walk up to someone on the street.
So a whole new entity have to be created, defined
ways to administer the drug. M okay. We brought in magicians, hypnotists,
(05:37):
card sharps, people who could show us how to slip
a dose in a dream and continue to study the results.
But you cannot do this in a laboratory. The moment
someone steps into a testing room again, they know they
are being tested. It's got to be in the real world.
(05:59):
That's where we'll set up our lab, a lab that
doesn't look anything like a lab, a lab that would
be comfortable and inviting you know the laboratory we're talking about, Yeah,
room five, that's right. I'm sorry, but I fail to
see the connection between testing drugs and a cheek motel.
(06:21):
And what any of this has to do with me.
Weapons potential weapons. Everything is a potential weapon, haste everything guns.
We all know about that money. Anyone can be bought
or sold at a certain brace LSD once we fully
(06:41):
understand its properties and how to most effectively blend it
with other ingredients. Absolutely, let's not forget sex. The Soviets
have used sex blackmail four. The Reds are way ahead
of us on this. It's their favorite tool for the
command of control of strang agents. The race with the
(07:01):
Russians isn't only happening in outer space. It's also happening
inside the head. And we're losing that one too. Someone
(07:23):
followed you. It could be graph. Yeah, miss Burgery, you'd
best get out of here, go on back up to
(07:43):
the war where it's safe. No Graph, I'm protecting my patient. Well,
I've got my orders, and so do I. What you
eat s teaches in my face because of her almost
lost an eye. I'm watching her. I'm keeping her here
until we can all the authorities and let them work.
All of you have the key. Maybe maybe get your
(08:11):
hands on her. Don't you touch her, give me the key,
per tree, you'd be the key Burgery. I won't ask
you a third time. I have the key. Towsome out
if you want him coming yet? No, I don't think so,
(08:40):
and we'll just wait here. I've got a better idea burgery.
Where did she go? Burgery? Oh, I got my color,
(09:04):
I got it a gold him. There's another entrance about
(09:31):
the team finds it really good. Don't over here, grass
over here, don't come near me. Here as your chad.
I'm gonna cat soup. We're over here. I'm gonna tell
your armstp this way. I can't see. He's like, follow me.
(09:55):
I can hear you. I can value. I'll tell you
can follow me. Come on. Potential weapons are all around
(10:23):
us and your reward, for example, we just need to
learn how to identify them and how to use them
at the hospital. Shock therapy, sleep therapy, sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation,
psychic driving, transorbital lobotomy, surgical bacteriology. We don't know. We
(10:48):
won't know until we explore it. Road tested under a
variety of conditions. So back to our little laboratory. Co See, mom,
how do you get people to show up? We called
in an old friend of ours and the Bureau of
an arcomus to work in the Bureau, used to work
(11:10):
in the Bureau of Narcotics. But still well connected and
wise to every angle that's ever been played. He knows
every one, all the dope peddlers, the con artist. His
suggestion was not to use confidence, mental drug pushers, or payment.
His idea was to use women. His idea was specifically
(11:34):
to use whores. Think about it, the powers of persuasion.
People would actually pay us to participate. You see, Dr Hayes.
We like movies too, Lewis, you want to start the show?
My favorite part. Look, I'm getting goose bumps. You recognize
(12:01):
the room? Yes, yeah, but now you are on the
other side of the glass. Yes. How does that make
you feel safer? Her? I suppose I'm safer. Yes, but
some part of you, some part of you wishes it
was on the other side of the class, doesn't it.
(12:24):
It's okay, yes, nothing to be ashamed of. It's what
motivates us. And we're about to see. Ah, yes, she
is this woman who's that? That's what's her name again?
Somehow I think that's Candy or is it Cherry? But
(12:46):
who is she? Well, she's a prostitute, obviously. She is
a civilian who was recruited to help us in our research,
your research. And this person we are we don't know
who that person is. Why don't we call him John?
(13:08):
He's just a pick up some chumps she found on
the street or in a cocktail lounge, and from the
looks of it, he seems to be interested in conducting
a study of human sexuality. We apologize for the quality
of the image. It requires so much light to shoot
through the glass, but you could see. Okay, I can
stay fine, Shall we listen in? Are you serious? We
(13:33):
have audio for this real? Yes, yes we do. We'll
tell him this. What's it all? Louis? Can we get
sound in here? Yeah? Please? Can you make you a drink?
What they done? Stuck? All you got? Give? She asks?
(13:58):
What he wants to drink? Comes towards the camera. Remember
the piece? Watch carefully, it was there? Are you watching? Yeah?
Pours a drink? Did you see it? What did you
see it? He didn't see of course, he didn't see it.
He was looking at the girl's legs or something. I
(14:18):
didn't see what the administration of the truck. A toast
bottoms up, and the wheels of science will now begin
to turn. She did it so well, didn't she? So?
Night after night we sit in that darkened room, taking notes,
(14:39):
taking pictures, taking recordings. But in the end we learned
very little about the effects of LSD on the subject.
But it was anything but a failure. We realized that
we had gained knowledge of a far more valuable and
practical nature. Think about our operation is what it takes
(15:03):
to set up a field laboratory like this? How do
you plant hidden microphones in a room? He can't learn that?
And workshop it has to happen on the ground in
the wild. How much light is required to perform camera
surveillance theror without putting floodlights. All these questions could be
answered there. But even these things were trivial compared to
(15:26):
other things. We could observe that the women you see.
Morgan was right. He knew all along what the secret
weapon was. It wasn't the drugs, the mirrors, the microphone.
These women did things that no amount of l s
D could accomplish. They could seduce a man, coax him
(15:49):
to spend his money, give up his secrets, things he
would never tell anyone, especially not his wife. You see
what is happening. Ah. Yes, Under ordinary circumstances, modesty would
dictate that we turn away. But in this um, this case,
(16:10):
it's our obligation to um. It is necessary for the
women to distract the tests subject for a long enough
time to allow for the drug to take effect. All
very scientific and eventually, Ah, there we have it. Midnight
(16:38):
Climax operation Midnight Climate had the purpose of obfuscation. Every
operation in this endeavor must have a code name. This
one needs no explanation. You think we're voyeurs. Maybe, am
I right? I didn't say that. You'd be amazed at
the things we see through that class. Not being completely serious,
(16:59):
Alfred Kinsey would have given his right nut to sit
behind the glass in that room. I would say that
we've seen every sexual perversion known to man. But there
is always something that a modern man could teach craft
epping a thing instead of relying on dubious interviews and
second hand information. Here was the opportunity to observe the
(17:19):
sex habits of the American underworld up close. And vision.
A zoologist who has only studied wildlife in books and
in cages, finally able to see nature in the wild,
a sexual serengetti for behavioral psychologists. It was an unprecedented
(17:41):
and even today an unparalleled anthropological opportunity. He stop, we're
missing the movie. So watch the man. Nowadays he's lethargic
for a variety of reasons. But you can see the
acid sinking in. Unfortunately, they will not be much to see.
Some laughed an expression of absolute bliss. It's although tinged
(18:06):
with guilt over having violated his wedding bells. Eventually he'll
zip up his pants, put on his jacket and wander
back into the street. Then what this guy flouted with LSD?
Not our concern. We're not running at daycarey. If he's
got nothing more to teach us, he needs to get
out and make way for the next guy. And there
(18:30):
he goes. So back to the story. A new scene
is beginning. But over time LSD wasn't so interesting anymore.
It really is boring to watch. But the women. We
could watch the women for hours. One woman in particular, Wait,
(18:55):
wait two late days look familiar? Can yes? Karen all
our chemicals, our device is our methods of mind control.
None of them could accomplish what she could. Yeah, well
for a while. Anyway, what happened? Along came Ronald Grant?
(19:22):
You remember Ronald Grant sales paper carton manufacturing in town
on a business trip from O H ten project o
H ten? What is that? Ohio? Ronald Grant comes along
and almost destroys everything that him. That's yeah, son of
(19:43):
a bitch. M I think it's just say that everything?
What this thing? M Y? What did I do? You
(20:12):
wanted to see it? Yes, she's looking right, ass she
knows we're watching. You were there? No, not this night?
You know if I had been who was there? Who
(20:33):
was running the camera? Come? Now? Do you know who
been speaking? I would like to connect? M M? What's that?
(21:06):
What ext what's wrong with it? This is the onset
of the psychotic episode. The sychotic probably not his first,
but definitely the last. To be fair, he wasn't given
the usual dosage chemical services, wanted to try a different
(21:27):
combination of ingredients and well, as you can see, the
results of this particular cocktail were somewhat extreme and almost instantaneous.
That's what I don't get it. Shouldn't have happened, couldn't
have happened this fast. Clearly Grant must have already had it. Yes,
(21:49):
I'm sporting the movie. You're fine, adds next to dance Kaya,
Oh Jesus, let me give you adopt the bunny. Dare
(22:21):
Jesus stop running running there? What's happen is nothing for
christ Morgan. Morgan called the doctor or company. Really don't
know when you get down the chair running okay, Well,
(22:41):
no one's gonna hurt me. Put down the stair, Morgan, Morgan,
get you're asking, you'll nott me. Morgan's gonna kill her?
Why does someone stop him? Why? Why you know how
this ends? He's he doesn't kill her, remember Morgan get
(23:03):
in here before? Oh Jesus, not that. Well, who is
wrong with you? Morgan? You're just let him guy? Yeah,
(23:50):
she never touched him. Nope, she had nothing to do
with his death. I wouldn't say nothing. But she's innocent.
Well what is innocent? You have the film, you have
the proof, yet you allowed her to be arrested. We
couldn't very well show this to the police. Can you
imagine you let her go to jail. She didn't go
(24:13):
to jail. We looked after her. We had her sense
someplace where she would be put under the care and
supervision of a person we trusted. We granted her asylum yours.
We were going to keep her there three weeks, let
the publicity die down, and then we were going to
spring her. But then you took an interest in her.
(24:36):
You started playing detective, prying into her past, trying to
unlock her secrets, and a new project was born, Operation
Good Shepherd. And who would have ever guessed where that
project ended up. You're being rewarded with a prize better
(24:57):
than the nobel We're offering you seat on the other
side of the class, a knowledge and a lifetime of power,
a bribe. You're a way of keeping me quiet now
that I found the truth. Dr Hayes. If we wanted
you to be quiet, he wouldn't be making a sound
right now. Not now. Let's behave like colleagues. If Morgan
(25:20):
had his way, you would be dead. That's the other option. Okay,
So what do we do? How do we proceed? How
soon can you get Charlotte back to her husband? For
God's sake, you haven't even told me what happened to her.
We we'll discuss that. I think the first gesture of
(25:43):
cooperation should come from you or me. Okay, then what
sort of gesture of cooperation are you looking for? For starters,
we'd like to get Karen back. I think the coast
is clear enough for us to repatriate her to the
ranks of our agents. How soon can you bring it
to us? When would your life to see her? How
about midnight? Tonight? Immediately would be better. Look, we're willing
(26:08):
to give you a little time, but not here away
from the hospital. Somewhere that old house on the hill.
What is that the founders mansion? It's abandoned. That would
be perfect. I can't guarantee that I'll be able to
no excuses. Either you fail or you succeed. Ah. Oh,
(26:50):
thank god you're back, miss Surgery. Dr Caes is here, Walter.
What's happening? Are you okay? Everything's fine. There was a situation,
but I'm handling it. Virtue. Did you revive Karen? Like
I asked you to wait, Doctor Hayes, just a minute.
(27:10):
I wanted where is she? That's what I was trying
to tell you. There were some complications when we were
bringing her out of the pheno barb and I thought
it best. Shut up and tell me where she is.
No more of your games, no more Florence Nightingale. Bullshit, Burtree.
I'm I'm asking you where is she? And I'm not
telling you you've hidden her. I'm not saying anything, Gloria.
(27:35):
I'm gown upstairs and see if Grat is still on duty,
if he is bringing back down here stack, what are
you looking at her for? I'm in charge. Do what
I tell you too. Grath will find her and he'll
bring her back, and I shudder to think what kind
of shape she'll be in when she arrives. Doctor Hayes,
(27:57):
my only intention to save your breath. You've failed as
a nurse. You've disappointed me personally. God knows what damage
you'll be inflicting upon Karen. But as long as you
think you know best, I know, I do tell me
where she is. You only know one tiny slice of
(28:19):
what's going on here right now, Vergerie, you're out of
your element. You think this is just about Karen, but
it's much bigger. Charlotte has disappeared from where someone took her,
abducted her. Who when he has to do with this
Morgan Hall? Person who who who's been looking for Karen
(28:41):
and threatening us. Now, I for reasons I can't explain.
What is it, Dr Hayes. Morgan Hall is here and
I have reason to believe he has Charlotte with him
as a sort of hostage. Have you called the police? No? No, no, no,
(29:01):
this is I'm trying to explain to you. This is
bigger than the police. This is Karen is a bad person.
She's done things, much more horrible things than we ever imagined.
And you're right, she never should have been placed here.
There was a risk to the patients. It's tall of us.
(29:24):
This Morgan Hall and other other persons. They're providing us
with a solution to everything. In order to get Charlotte released,
I simply need to take Karen to him and then
we can all go on with our lives. Where at
(29:46):
the Founder's mansion at midnight, I won't do it. I'll call.
The phones are shut off, the exits are locked. There's
no way around it, and I don't want Charlotte to
be punished for our mistakes. Dr Hayes. Yes, when Graf
(30:09):
gets here, I'll take him to Carrie. Tell me where
she is and I'll send him there right now, no,
I I won't let him hurt her. I'm adamant about that.
I'll go with him to be sure she isn't harmed
and we'll bring her back together. Okay, good girl, Virgie. Yeah, okay, Morgan,
(30:36):
we're on. He's got her. He's got her. He's got her,
and I get her. As long as you have something
to trade. Yeah, like that's something to trade, all right,
So bring her up to Central State Hospital. There's a perimeter,
but they'll let you through. Up on the hill is
what they call the Founder's mansion. We'll meet, we'll greet,
(30:59):
will change gifts. Well, that satisfy you, and she and
I split If that's what you want, see you in
a couple of hours, Summer Hill. You're not going to
pull any tricks. Now, why would you think that we
you misunderstand. That was not a question. I'm telling you,
(31:20):
you're not going to pull any tricks or else. What
you know me fairly? Well, I'm sure you can finish
this sentence for me. The Control Group is a production
(31:42):
of How Stuff Works, written and directed by Brett Wood,
recorded and mixed by Rob Gal and
The control group contains scenes of realistic violence and graphic sexuality.
It is intended for mature listeners. In the field of
psychiatric medicine, it was an exciting time, a time of
innovation and discovery, a time when mental health institutions struggled
(00:22):
to redefine themselves, to become something more than repositories of
the sick. Un Orthodox methods and aggressive therapies were not
only permitted, but encouraged. This is a record of that time.
This is the control group. Oh yeah, you're probably thinking
(00:46):
to yourself, Dr Hayes, I I've I've done a terrible thing.
I've I've betrayed the trust of a patient. I've violated
the hippocratic owth. But did you earn anything? Really, I'm
I'm asking you. Did you gain any knowledge from the experience? Yes,
(01:11):
then it was worth it. Why did you do it? Heyes,
I suppose I would. I was just curious. We place
a high value on curiosity, scientific, intellectual, morbid, sexual. It
is curiosity that fuels the learning process. The fact that
you've left the hospital, that you went there, that you
(01:36):
penetrated the mystery of that room, that you trusted your
guts and investigated that lets us know you're our kind
of man is We would like for you to continue
to work closely with the society. I think you'll find
that it would be mutually beneficial. You'll join the ranks
of some of the most highly regarded scientists in the field.
(01:59):
You'll be funded well enough that you can leave behind
the toil of the mental ward and focus on those
areas of study that bring you more personal satisfaction. How
does that sound? Are you kidding? Its sounds wonderful. Now,
before we settle you in, there is a mess here
(02:21):
that requires some mobbing up. Yeah. Right, in our field,
this kind of thing is bound to happen every so often,
and we have a mechanism for dealing with unfortunate situations
such as this. We are willing to use this mechanism
as long as we have your complete cooperation and loyalty
(02:41):
moving forward. You have it without a doubt, then it
will be taken care of. Worry no more, We will
handle everything, Doctor Gottfried, Perhaps you should give doctor Hayes
a brief history of our organization so he has an
understanding of the scale, the reach, our abilities to keep
(03:01):
our promises and to make good on our warnings. We
wouldn't want you to enter into an association with us
lightly without fully understanding the depth of that commitment. Of course,
don't mind him. He has an er adolescent fondness for
the cloak and dagger. Here may I nineteen four nine,
(03:24):
the cardinal minds into affair. He defiantly opposed communism in Hungary.
He was arrested, he was tortured, he was persuaded to
make full, not just full, a confession that was over flowing.
That's when we knew the Soviets the Chinese had developed
(03:46):
a program of behavior modification and thought control, brainwashing, brainwashing.
At that point, the United States, specifically the Office of
Scientific and Eligence, created a program in response art a joke,
(04:09):
Art a joke. You peel back the layers, you see.
We knew we needed to explore methods of interrogation, not
not torture. Mind, you never torture. We are not barbarians. Science, chemical, psychological, electrical,
(04:29):
and this this was one of our most promising weapons.
LSD is surgic acid diathe, the mite. I'd spell it out,
but that would take some time, and we don't have
enough chalk. LSD was going to be the magic bullet,
spent thousands of dollars on it, thought for control of
(04:52):
the world's supply, successfully spent thousands of man hours. You know,
I'm still not convinced that it does not have a roll.
When you are small psychopharmacology, the problem is the effect
of the drug is diminished when the subject knows they've
taken it. Their defense mechanisms kicking. They're aware that a
drug is in their system and can't help but act differently.
(05:16):
So what do you do. You give someone the drug
without their knowing it. But how do you do that.
You can't just walk up to someone on the street.
So a whole new entity have to be created, defined
ways to administer the drug. M okay. We brought in magicians, hypnotists,
(05:37):
card sharps, people who could show us how to slip
a dose in a dream and continue to study the results.
But you cannot do this in a laboratory. The moment
someone steps into a testing room again, they know they
are being tested. It's got to be in the real world.
(05:59):
That's where we'll set up our lab, a lab that
doesn't look anything like a lab, a lab that would
be comfortable and inviting you know the laboratory we're talking about, Yeah,
room five, that's right. I'm sorry, but I fail to
see the connection between testing drugs and a cheek motel.
(06:21):
And what any of this has to do with me.
Weapons potential weapons. Everything is a potential weapon, haste everything guns.
We all know about that money. Anyone can be bought
or sold at a certain brace LSD once we fully
(06:41):
understand its properties and how to most effectively blend it
with other ingredients. Absolutely, let's not forget sex. The Soviets
have used sex blackmail four. The Reds are way ahead
of us on this. It's their favorite tool for the
command of control of strang agents. The race with the
(07:01):
Russians isn't only happening in outer space. It's also happening
inside the head. And we're losing that one too. Someone
(07:23):
followed you. It could be graph. Yeah, miss Burgery, you'd
best get out of here, go on back up to
(07:43):
the war where it's safe. No Graph, I'm protecting my patient. Well,
I've got my orders, and so do I. What you
eat s teaches in my face because of her almost
lost an eye. I'm watching her. I'm keeping her here
until we can all the authorities and let them work.
All of you have the key. Maybe maybe get your
(08:11):
hands on her. Don't you touch her, give me the key,
per tree, you'd be the key Burgery. I won't ask
you a third time. I have the key. Towsome out
if you want him coming yet? No, I don't think so,
(08:40):
and we'll just wait here. I've got a better idea burgery.
Where did she go? Burgery? Oh, I got my color,
(09:04):
I got it a gold him. There's another entrance about
(09:31):
the team finds it really good. Don't over here, grass
over here, don't come near me. Here as your chad.
I'm gonna cat soup. We're over here. I'm gonna tell
your armstp this way. I can't see. He's like, follow me.
(09:55):
I can hear you. I can value. I'll tell you
can follow me. Come on. Potential weapons are all around
(10:23):
us and your reward, for example, we just need to
learn how to identify them and how to use them
at the hospital. Shock therapy, sleep therapy, sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation,
psychic driving, transorbital lobotomy, surgical bacteriology. We don't know. We
(10:48):
won't know until we explore it. Road tested under a
variety of conditions. So back to our little laboratory. Co See, mom,
how do you get people to show up? We called
in an old friend of ours and the Bureau of
an arcomus to work in the Bureau, used to work
(11:10):
in the Bureau of Narcotics. But still well connected and
wise to every angle that's ever been played. He knows
every one, all the dope peddlers, the con artist. His
suggestion was not to use confidence, mental drug pushers, or payment.
His idea was to use women. His idea was specifically
(11:34):
to use whores. Think about it, the powers of persuasion.
People would actually pay us to participate. You see, Dr Hayes.
We like movies too, Lewis, you want to start the show?
My favorite part. Look, I'm getting goose bumps. You recognize
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the room? Yes, yeah, but now you are on the
other side of the glass. Yes. How does that make
you feel safer? Her? I suppose I'm safer. Yes, but
some part of you, some part of you wishes it
was on the other side of the class, doesn't it.
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It's okay, yes, nothing to be ashamed of. It's what
motivates us. And we're about to see. Ah, yes, she
is this woman who's that? That's what's her name again?
Somehow I think that's Candy or is it Cherry? But
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who is she? Well, she's a prostitute, obviously. She is
a civilian who was recruited to help us in our research,
your research. And this person we are we don't know
who that person is. Why don't we call him John?
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He's just a pick up some chumps she found on
the street or in a cocktail lounge, and from the
looks of it, he seems to be interested in conducting
a study of human sexuality. We apologize for the quality
of the image. It requires so much light to shoot
through the glass, but you could see. Okay, I can
stay fine, Shall we listen in? Are you serious? We
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have audio for this real? Yes, yes we do. We'll
tell him this. What's it all? Louis? Can we get
sound in here? Yeah? Please? Can you make you a drink?
What they done? Stuck? All you got? Give? She asks?
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What he wants to drink? Comes towards the camera. Remember
the piece? Watch carefully, it was there? Are you watching? Yeah?
Pours a drink? Did you see it? What did you
see it? He didn't see of course, he didn't see it.
He was looking at the girl's legs or something. I
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didn't see what the administration of the truck. A toast
bottoms up, and the wheels of science will now begin
to turn. She did it so well, didn't she? So?
Night after night we sit in that darkened room, taking notes,
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taking pictures, taking recordings. But in the end we learned
very little about the effects of LSD on the subject.
But it was anything but a failure. We realized that
we had gained knowledge of a far more valuable and
practical nature. Think about our operation is what it takes
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to set up a field laboratory like this? How do
you plant hidden microphones in a room? He can't learn that?
And workshop it has to happen on the ground in
the wild. How much light is required to perform camera
surveillance theror without putting floodlights. All these questions could be
answered there. But even these things were trivial compared to
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other things. We could observe that the women you see.
Morgan was right. He knew all along what the secret
weapon was. It wasn't the drugs, the mirrors, the microphone.
These women did things that no amount of l s
D could accomplish. They could seduce a man, coax him
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to spend his money, give up his secrets, things he
would never tell anyone, especially not his wife. You see
what is happening. Ah. Yes, Under ordinary circumstances, modesty would
dictate that we turn away. But in this um, this case,
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it's our obligation to um. It is necessary for the
women to distract the tests subject for a long enough
time to allow for the drug to take effect. All
very scientific and eventually, Ah, there we have it. Midnight
(16:38):
Climax operation Midnight Climate had the purpose of obfuscation. Every
operation in this endeavor must have a code name. This
one needs no explanation. You think we're voyeurs. Maybe, am
I right? I didn't say that. You'd be amazed at
the things we see through that class. Not being completely serious,
(16:59):
Alfred Kinsey would have given his right nut to sit
behind the glass in that room. I would say that
we've seen every sexual perversion known to man. But there
is always something that a modern man could teach craft
epping a thing instead of relying on dubious interviews and
second hand information. Here was the opportunity to observe the
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sex habits of the American underworld up close. And vision.
A zoologist who has only studied wildlife in books and
in cages, finally able to see nature in the wild,
a sexual serengetti for behavioral psychologists. It was an unprecedented
(17:41):
and even today an unparalleled anthropological opportunity. He stop, we're
missing the movie. So watch the man. Nowadays he's lethargic
for a variety of reasons. But you can see the
acid sinking in. Unfortunately, they will not be much to see.
Some laughed an expression of absolute bliss. It's although tinged
(18:06):
with guilt over having violated his wedding bells. Eventually he'll
zip up his pants, put on his jacket and wander
back into the street. Then what this guy flouted with LSD?
Not our concern. We're not running at daycarey. If he's
got nothing more to teach us, he needs to get
out and make way for the next guy. And there
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he goes. So back to the story. A new scene
is beginning. But over time LSD wasn't so interesting anymore.
It really is boring to watch. But the women. We
could watch the women for hours. One woman in particular, Wait,
(18:55):
wait two late days look familiar? Can yes? Karen all
our chemicals, our device is our methods of mind control.
None of them could accomplish what she could. Yeah, well
for a while. Anyway, what happened? Along came Ronald Grant?
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You remember Ronald Grant sales paper carton manufacturing in town
on a business trip from O H ten project o
H ten? What is that? Ohio? Ronald Grant comes along
and almost destroys everything that him. That's yeah, son of
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a bitch. M I think it's just say that everything?
What this thing? M Y? What did I do? You
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wanted to see it? Yes, she's looking right, ass she
knows we're watching. You were there? No, not this night?
You know if I had been who was there? Who
(20:33):
was running the camera? Come? Now? Do you know who
been speaking? I would like to connect? M M? What's that?
(21:06):
What ext what's wrong with it? This is the onset
of the psychotic episode. The sychotic probably not his first,
but definitely the last. To be fair, he wasn't given
the usual dosage chemical services, wanted to try a different
(21:27):
combination of ingredients and well, as you can see, the
results of this particular cocktail were somewhat extreme and almost instantaneous.
That's what I don't get it. Shouldn't have happened, couldn't
have happened this fast. Clearly Grant must have already had it. Yes,
(21:49):
I'm sporting the movie. You're fine, adds next to dance Kaya,
Oh Jesus, let me give you adopt the bunny. Dare
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Jesus stop running running there? What's happen is nothing for
christ Morgan. Morgan called the doctor or company. Really don't
know when you get down the chair running okay, Well,
(22:41):
no one's gonna hurt me. Put down the stair, Morgan, Morgan,
get you're asking, you'll nott me. Morgan's gonna kill her?
Why does someone stop him? Why? Why you know how
this ends? He's he doesn't kill her, remember Morgan get
(23:03):
in here before? Oh Jesus, not that. Well, who is
wrong with you? Morgan? You're just let him guy? Yeah,
(23:50):
she never touched him. Nope, she had nothing to do
with his death. I wouldn't say nothing. But she's innocent.
Well what is innocent? You have the film, you have
the proof, yet you allowed her to be arrested. We
couldn't very well show this to the police. Can you
imagine you let her go to jail. She didn't go
(24:13):
to jail. We looked after her. We had her sense
someplace where she would be put under the care and
supervision of a person we trusted. We granted her asylum yours.
We were going to keep her there three weeks, let
the publicity die down, and then we were going to
spring her. But then you took an interest in her.
(24:36):
You started playing detective, prying into her past, trying to
unlock her secrets, and a new project was born, Operation
Good Shepherd. And who would have ever guessed where that
project ended up. You're being rewarded with a prize better
(24:57):
than the nobel We're offering you seat on the other
side of the class, a knowledge and a lifetime of power,
a bribe. You're a way of keeping me quiet now
that I found the truth. Dr Hayes. If we wanted
you to be quiet, he wouldn't be making a sound
right now. Not now. Let's behave like colleagues. If Morgan
(25:20):
had his way, you would be dead. That's the other option. Okay,
So what do we do? How do we proceed? How
soon can you get Charlotte back to her husband? For
God's sake, you haven't even told me what happened to her.
We we'll discuss that. I think the first gesture of
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cooperation should come from you or me. Okay, then what
sort of gesture of cooperation are you looking for? For starters,
we'd like to get Karen back. I think the coast
is clear enough for us to repatriate her to the
ranks of our agents. How soon can you bring it
to us? When would your life to see her? How
about midnight? Tonight? Immediately would be better. Look, we're willing
(26:08):
to give you a little time, but not here away
from the hospital. Somewhere that old house on the hill.
What is that the founders mansion? It's abandoned. That would
be perfect. I can't guarantee that I'll be able to
no excuses. Either you fail or you succeed. Ah. Oh,
(26:50):
thank god you're back, miss Surgery. Dr Caes is here, Walter.
What's happening? Are you okay? Everything's fine. There was a situation,
but I'm handling it. Virtue. Did you revive Karen? Like
I asked you to wait, Doctor Hayes, just a minute.
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I wanted where is she? That's what I was trying
to tell you. There were some complications when we were
bringing her out of the pheno barb and I thought
it best. Shut up and tell me where she is.
No more of your games, no more Florence Nightingale. Bullshit, Burtree.
I'm I'm asking you where is she? And I'm not
telling you you've hidden her. I'm not saying anything, Gloria.
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I'm gown upstairs and see if Grat is still on duty,
if he is bringing back down here stack, what are
you looking at her for? I'm in charge. Do what
I tell you too. Grath will find her and he'll
bring her back, and I shudder to think what kind
of shape she'll be in when she arrives. Doctor Hayes,
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my only intention to save your breath. You've failed as
a nurse. You've disappointed me personally. God knows what damage
you'll be inflicting upon Karen. But as long as you
think you know best, I know, I do tell me
where she is. You only know one tiny slice of
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what's going on here right now, Vergerie, you're out of
your element. You think this is just about Karen, but
it's much bigger. Charlotte has disappeared from where someone took her,
abducted her. Who when he has to do with this
Morgan Hall? Person who who who's been looking for Karen
(28:41):
and threatening us. Now, I for reasons I can't explain.
What is it, Dr Hayes. Morgan Hall is here and
I have reason to believe he has Charlotte with him
as a sort of hostage. Have you called the police? No? No, no, no,
(29:01):
this is I'm trying to explain to you. This is
bigger than the police. This is Karen is a bad person.
She's done things, much more horrible things than we ever imagined.
And you're right, she never should have been placed here.
There was a risk to the patients. It's tall of us.
(29:24):
This Morgan Hall and other other persons. They're providing us
with a solution to everything. In order to get Charlotte released,
I simply need to take Karen to him and then
we can all go on with our lives. Where at
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the Founder's mansion at midnight, I won't do it. I'll call.
The phones are shut off, the exits are locked. There's
no way around it, and I don't want Charlotte to
be punished for our mistakes. Dr Hayes. Yes, when Graf
(30:09):
gets here, I'll take him to Carrie. Tell me where
she is and I'll send him there right now, no,
I I won't let him hurt her. I'm adamant about that.
I'll go with him to be sure she isn't harmed
and we'll bring her back together. Okay, good girl, Virgie. Yeah, okay, Morgan,
(30:36):
we're on. He's got her. He's got her. He's got her,
and I get her. As long as you have something
to trade. Yeah, like that's something to trade, all right,
So bring her up to Central State Hospital. There's a perimeter,
but they'll let you through. Up on the hill is
what they call the Founder's mansion. We'll meet, we'll greet,
(30:59):
will change gifts. Well, that satisfy you, and she and
I split If that's what you want, see you in
a couple of hours, Summer Hill. You're not going to
pull any tricks. Now, why would you think that we
you misunderstand. That was not a question. I'm telling you,
(31:20):
you're not going to pull any tricks or else. What
you know me fairly? Well, I'm sure you can finish
this sentence for me. The Control Group is a production
(31:42):
of How Stuff Works, written and directed by Brett Wood,
recorded and mixed by Rob Gal and
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Bret Wood
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