4 Day Work Week 5 Eva, QAnon Makes Child Trafficking Worse 7.12.21

In episode 948, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and performer Korama Danquah to discuss the four day work week, QAnon's new plan, streaming ratings and the box office, and more!

FOOTNOTES:

1. All of Us Should Be Working Four-Day Weeks
2. QAnon's new 'plan'? Run for school board
3. Sex-trafficking survivors say QAnon's anti-trafficking crusade is hurting more than it's helping
4. Barry Diller Headed 2 Hollywood Studios. He Now Says The Movie Business Is Dead
5. Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Netflix’s ‘Sweet Tooth’ Shows Bite for the Week of June 7-13
6. Box Office: ‘F9’ Reigns Over July 4th Weekend as ‘Boss Baby 2,’ ‘Zola’ Start Strong
7. LISTEN: SAULT - Wildfires (Lyrics Video)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, nine, Episode
one of Guys production of I Heart Radio. This is
a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's
shared consciousness. Uh. It is Monday, July. My name is
Jack O'Brien a k. Apple Jack, which is my actual

(00:21):
nickname for a week of basketball camp when I was
a kid due to a hand twitch I had while
holding an apple that caused me to just launch the
apple across the cafeteria table into my coach's bowl of
cereal milk. And he called me apple Jack derisively for
the rest of the best. But it would have been

(00:42):
it would have been perfect, but he was, Yeah, but
love love when it wasn't it wasn't that. Wasn't that
the time when a coach would give you a toxic
nickname based on something that's different about you? Yeah? Yeah,
and that was that. Wasn't that bad? I mean for
all the things, but I've always had trouble with my hands.
I've never know what to do with my hands, and
sometimes they'll just freak out and throw an apple across

(01:05):
the room. Uh. And I'm thrilled to be joined as
always by my co host, Mr Miles Gras yes, going
straight from the eight one eight to the eight oh
eight coming soon to Ahah. Who is your boy from
this hand? Fernando Valley, Mr Hideo NoHo, Yes, you know that, gang.
I'm I'm gonna be making my way to a while,

(01:25):
you know, so recommendations hit me up, you know, because
I'm trying to I'm trying to take advantage of some
of some free times from working remote. But yes, today
O NoHo in the building. Thank you for having me,
and I hope to see you launched something involuntarily at
some point. I'm jack, I really did. I've gotten better
control of my hands, but they'll still freak out every
once in a while. Wait, we have like alien limb syndrome. Yeah,

(01:49):
a little bit, like some momentary alien limb syndrome. It
came up because my three year olds having a lot
of sleep trouble and he crawled into bed with my
wife last night and was hitting her and punching her.
And she was like, do you ever have like weird
like twitches and stuff? And I was like, huh, how
that you mentioned it? I don't know, I don't think

(02:11):
so anything. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, Miles, we are thrilled
to be joined in our third seat by the very
talented actress, writer, podcaster, educator Karama don't Quo. Thank you,
thank you, thank you for having me. Uh Mr apple

(02:31):
Jack and Miles. I do have a question about that
apple story though. Was it a red apple or a
green apple? Because apple, Oh, that's the worst one. I
feel like that's worse. I'd rather have a green apple
land in my cereal milk than a red apple. Hold on,
that's very specific. Why is that? I have no idea.
I'm just just like no, no, my hum. And now

(02:52):
I'm sort of like, damn, am I not thinking critically
enough about some of the things he's saying. I might
be thinking too critically about that story. It feels like
a Tim Robinson sketch. I didn't focus on the like
limb aspect of it. I'm like, what color was the apple? Yeah?
Like I just had it right here, like next, right ahead,

(03:13):
and then it just went like that, just fluid. So
it wasn't I thought you wound up, you launched it.
Oh so was he just across the table from you? Yeah,
he was just he was like down the table a
few people man Salt Bay situation, but like with an
it was a. It was a spastic salt bas situation
or like you one of those card magicians and you're
throwing a car Yeah, exactly right, right right, okay, now

(03:37):
you see me. I've ruined your cereal milk with this
half bitten apple Karama. What is good? What's new with you?
What's good? What's new? I'm about to move back to
the eight one eight? What what? Yeah? Next week I'm
moving to Van Eyes. Excited about that. And then I
just wrapped on season one of I Carly were is

(04:00):
working in the writer's room the reboot, our revival, I
think it's the technical term, but you know, people just
be thrown out, rewords all over the place. And I
have an episode that I got to write and it
comes out in a couple of weeks. So that's what's new. Amazing,
so dope, intersecting with so much. I Carly talent recently,

(04:20):
and eventually we'll get Lacy back on here. But I'm
over the weekend Ramsey. Oh yeah, very lovely person. And
I was just like, man, so it seems like the
best show to be working on. Yeah, No, I love Lacey,
love Francesca got I was like a huge Francesca stand
before the show, and like, when I got the list
of people who remember those videos, I like had a

(04:43):
heart attack and I texted all my friends that was like,
my Rancy is gonna be working in the room, and
I like had to be normal for six months working
How do you do as not normal came in a
print out you wanted to sign from? Hi was my

(05:04):
first day. Blessedly we were working remote right right right,
So I did not. I would have. I would have like, Hi,
this is the video that you did like six years ago,
will you sign summon? No. I mean just generally, I
didn't do a great job being normal, not just Francesca wise.

(05:24):
The first day of work, we were introducing ourselves and
like I said that I thought that Emotion by Carly
ray Jepson was one of the best albums of all time,
and I thought it was criminally underrated. And I was like,
this is not a normal way to introduce yourself. Just
say your name and stop talking. Right. You just came
with a hot take right out of the gate. I

(05:44):
will will. Somebody asked me, what has Carly ray Jepson
been up to since? Called me maybe, which was a
mistake on their part. Yeah, very early on in this
show and the CRJ goons came for me. Shout out
to y'all because you did convert me, because so many
people were like, put that out of your mind, what

(06:06):
you think you may know, and just put this album
on and listen to it. And I'm like, this ship
is just really good. This is really good music. It's
really good. It's really really good. I have a for
my birthday. For my thirtieth birthday, the room got me
a Carly ray Jepson quilt and it's the most beautiful
thing I've ever seen, and I carry it around with

(06:27):
me when I travel places, like I'm Linus from the Nuts.
Don't tell anybody that, oh my god, you know, because
you're just letting them know. So many of those hooks,
I were like, I really really really like you, like
you can. They're easy to sing and like right away
with me. There's so many earworms in that album. That's

(06:50):
what I'm saying, you know what, And you know, maybe
these days l A Hallucinations it is my song. I
Oh my gosh, yes, just the whole album, That whole
album is good. I'm so glad I found my people.
I mean, I'm a new I'm just I'm c RJ curious,
you know what I mean, opening my I'm expanding my horizons.

(07:11):
And I realized, oh, why did I have that all?
Why did I have the wrong ideas about this? I
think so many fandoms are really toxic and that they
think if you haven't been there since day one, you
don't you don't have as much legitimacy as people who
have been there since day one. And I don't think
that that's true. I think that if you are gathering
enjoyment from whatever the fandom is, even if it is

(07:32):
your first day, when it's somebody else's ten thousand day,
then good for you, and you don't to be like
I know every song, I know every book. I know
that she was third place on Canadian Idol. I know
that she started Frenchie in Greece Live. I know that
she played Dorothy in The Whiz in high school, which
is I have feelings about that. Well, let's let's want

(07:57):
to have the positive. And you know, high school is
as a strange time, but yeah, for sure, gatekeeping is
just so exhausting because like I've I myself have been
like that, like when I was in college and stuff,
and you know, one college in the odds like that
was peak, Like check on my fucking DVDs, check on
my albums that I have, and you're you're coming at
people from like, oh you don't know Porti's heads, dummy.

(08:19):
What then you took? And then I realized that's just
me because all I had for my personality or my
identity was to say I knew a lot about this
other ship, rather than being more secure and who I
just was fundamentally as a human being outside of my interest.
And then you have to realize, oh, yeah, this, let's
just just welcome. Everybody, especially the newcomers, can experience it

(08:40):
and enjoy it in a way that you can't. So
let them. Let them have that. That's why actually you
want to be And again shout out to all the
night young who are not not like being shitty about
my first early Carly rage Jason takes, but we're very
much like, Hey, I get it, but you should really
you really owe it yourself. You seem to like music.
You should listen to it. You'll enjoy it, and I did,
and even the subsequent albums. But I think you know,

(09:03):
as it relates to when like bringing somebody in, there's
no better feeling. Actually, when you put somebody onto something
and you watch them light up be like this is
so good, You're like, yes, yeah, Well that's why those
two guys, those brothers on like YouTube, who do them
like listening to songs for the first time. I think
that that's why they're so popular, because it's like we

(09:24):
love these songs that we get to watch them fall
in love with these songs. Like when they heard that
drum break on in the air tonight, they were like,
what yo, what And I'm like, yeah, right exactly. But
for us, all of our like you know, dopamine receptors
have burned out in terms of the album, so it
happens you're like I just need this to live, but
I enjoy seeing others get life. All Right, Karamo, We're

(09:48):
gonna get to know you a little bit better in
a moment. First, we are gonna tell our listeners a
few of the things we're talking about today. We're gonna
check in with that Iceland experiment with the four day
work week, because they just you know, as Americans, we
know a four day work week is a joke. For
anything less than a six day work week is for
lazies and so we just want to check in and

(10:10):
see how that turned out. We're gonna talk about Q
and On, what the latest manifestation of Q and On
looks like. We'll look at streaming ratings and Barry Diller
this article where an interview with NPR where Barry Diller
was like, the film industry is dead and looks in
the picture exactly like that old man mask that people

(10:32):
used to rob banks. Have you seen that those old
man masks? What are the old Oh? They have they
been in movies? Yes? Ye, look at look at the
picture of Barry Diller in this story, like he looks
and that is what the old man mask looks like.
It's like a just standard archetypical old man head. Yeah,

(10:55):
where it's like like bulbous like nose, just like the
salamander lips. Yeah. I'm pretty sure they just interviewed somebody
in one of those masks and thought it was very Dellers,
but they interviewed a bank robber who just sunglass. We
will talk about some streaming numbers, all of that plenty more,

(11:18):
But first, Karama, we like to ask our guests, what
is something from your search history. I searched our Neanderthal's
human because I wasn't a hundred on that because I
know that some people have Neanderthal DNA, but we talked
about Neanderthal's like they're different from people and they like
kind of ore but also kind of aren't. So I

(11:39):
was like, what's the deal there? What? Yeah? Yeah, but
wasn't there a recent discovery that Neanderthals have were like
creating art? I think so. I think, so that sounds right,
but they are human but not the same way we are.
So we kind of absorbed them and then replaced them.
But like if we were able to reproduce with them,

(12:01):
I feel like that to me feels human. I mean,
I'm not going to be able to like reproduce with
a snake and have like a snake person, right wife, Okay,
like Kevin James on seven Old Prospector, you never slept

(12:21):
it with a snake before? Yeah, so you Yeah, I
feel like if you can procreate, it's something's matching up.
But I guess that. Yeah. So some people you're saying,
do like is that is that just to take a
shot at somebody like you got Neanderthal DNA or yeah
on your twenty three and me they'll be like, you
have one percent Neanderthal DNA, or you have more Neanderthal

(12:43):
DNA than is average for humans. I have not done
twenty three and me, I'm not trying to sell my
spit to anybody, not sell it pay for I'll sell
my spit, but of course I'm not addit for people
who who are into that. Yeah, sure, hit me up
if you are interested in paying me for spit. Don't

(13:05):
actually do that, please you do that? Reddit are slash
spit bst by selling trade. Yeah. There, So there's a
new study out or a new discovery in a Neanderthal
camp where there's like some kind of little sculpture looking thing.
They seem to have a very low threshold for what

(13:28):
is considered art. But it's still so this is surprising,
scathing attacks on well that this is surprised me that
it's like, was were Neanderthals making art? And then it
just looks kind of like a whittled down I don't
know something or other, but Neanderthals. I think I think

(13:50):
one thing that we overlook a lot when we think
about Neanderthals is that the reason that we survived and
they didn't is that we were the crueler version like yeah,
we yeah, we killed them off, like we you know,
used our big gas brands to kill them off, and
like they were potentially more peaceful and less likely to

(14:13):
like scheme and come up and like you know, have
zero some outcomes with with regards to resources, and so
Homo sapiens killed them off. Like that's one of the
main theories, one of the prevailing theories these days. But
when we think Neanderthals were thinking like big, mean, dumb,
like violent, and it's like, you know, they were actually

(14:37):
more peaceful than love that legacy. We're here because we
kill the weaker ones anyway, So yeah, that's where my
brain was going last night. I was like, what aren't Andrews.
I don't know, but yes, and they were like people

(14:58):
chill version, Yeah exactly, And yeah, just like Jack, you
just start a podcast, You're just you're you're doing just
critiquing Neanderthal art, critique of just for this new excavated
kings scallop shell from Cueva and Tons Spain from the Neanderthals,
I'm look a decorative shell. This just looks like a

(15:20):
broken fucking shell. Folks that like, as somebody I'm coming
from a place of somebody who has to look at
five year old and three year old art and come
up with like value, be like wow, that's really great,
and like this would be one of the ones that
I would be like, let's move past that one and
like move on to the next piece of art that

(15:42):
you created, because this just looks like some like it
could have happened accidentally. Wait, do you have to like
struggle to come up with nice things to say about
your kids art? No? I just stopped trying a long
time ago. I was getting excited art. I'm like, look
at you, you know I do. I'm like, you look

(16:02):
at it, doting split like I I start massaging your
temples when you see you're like Jesus, I love. I'm like, Jack,
are you a bad dad? Are you like? Are you No? No,
I have kids with fund up art skills. Though we

(16:22):
just discovered my three year old as a lefty like
me and my wife's exciting. How do wait, how do
you what's the point where you figure out like what
is it what they eat with? Or well my mom
my mom was like, oh, I could have told you
that like a year and a half ago, but it's
what they draw with what they eat with. But also
like what when he's like sleeping, what thumb he sucks
and stuff like that, what he's using to do those

(16:45):
sorts of things. You suck the dominant thumb or the
non dominant thumb, So it's weird. I sucked my left thumb,
but my wife No, me and my wife split my
left thumb. You suck the You suck the dominant thumb.
And that's actually how they know that handedness is something
that's not socially proscribed and is actually something that like

(17:10):
starts in utero because left handed babies will suck their
left thumb in utero. Wow. Okay, yeah, so shout out
to learn learning lefties, either of you guys lefties? Nope,
my mom is nice. I just drew always being like, hey,
you gotta sit on this side of the table because
my nice hand is gonna keep jab We're gonna keep

(17:30):
bumping elbows. That's like the one thing that's my one,
you know, prevailing spirit experience with a left handed person.
What is something you think is overrated? Something I think
over is overrated? Its fireworks. It's been a week plus
since the fourth of July, and I'm still traumatized. Like
I just hate fireworks. It don't get it, and like

(17:51):
I think that there's value in ephemeral forms of entertainment,
Like it's not that I'm like, oh, fireworks disappear, what's
the point. And then you take pictures of the I mean,
nobody looks at them like very neanderthal take on our
modern fire Where does it go? I just think that

(18:12):
they're scary and loud and not worth the like small
ounce of like enjoyment. I think there are cooler things
that we probably have the technology, like the things that
they do with drones in the sky, and I feel
like it's probably better for the environment. Yeah, and doesn't
catch things on fire. Like if you want to look
at pretty lights in the sky, there are ways to
do it that aren't terrifying. It's called mushrooms, y'all. You

(18:35):
don't even have fireworks. Just wave your hand in front
of your face. It's a party. But I think I
don't like little ships setting off fucking bang bangs in
my neighborhood like the eighties and ship because I have
there's some badasses where I live, apparently because it sounded
like people were setting off dynamite and I'm like, that's
not even a firework, you know what I mean. Like

(18:56):
sometimes stuff go up and people do their little tiny
little sky bang rangs or whatever they're called. But when
people just set off like explosives, like it's so bad
for like my pets and stuff. Like I came home
early on the fourth of July and I just blasted
the gap band throughout my house because I'm like, Charlie
Wilson's voice can neutralize the sounds of explosions for my pets,

(19:17):
and that's all I had to do. But I do
love a good like professional fireworks show. I think that
could be just because in Japan they're like huge, and
I grew up every summer always seeing like massive fireworks displays.
But at the local like sparklers are cool, you know
what I mean, Those little snake things are cool. Yeah,
I love like Harry Kane. When I go to like Disneyland,

(19:40):
I'm like, yeah, be pretty. But also they're doing that
every night. I feel so bad for the people of Anaheim. Yeah,
that's a good point. I wonder if they have like
a clear zone where like within this range, like people
shouldn't like have residences because yeah, that was that would

(20:00):
be a lot of I guess, sounds of joy, but
it would also just be a lot of a lot
of screaming, a lot of kids crying, a lot of fireworks.
Anyone shares a wall though with like yeah, yeah, just
in the background scares when you're like trying to make

(20:24):
mac and cheese. How did we how did we end
up sharing a wall with it? It's a small world ride, Yeah,
Like I I feel like there's something very basic in
humans that like they needed to get out these fireworks
man this year, like we didn't. We didn't have it

(20:44):
last year, and there was just there's just something that yeah,
that's true. We we did have them like for locals,
but there wasn't like a massive show and I have
I was saying on the show is something like a
bowl of rice crispies for three straight hours of mine
in my neighborhood, just like that much popping and popping

(21:06):
and popping like multiple every second for like three hours straight.
It was wild. But I mean, yeah, you always hear
about these horrible accidents. There's always like the there's an
NHL dully who got hit with one, And yeah, I
didn't even know that was possible. I think you apparently

(21:28):
like he was like it was like a mortar tube
type thing, and I think it hit him in a
chest or something. Yeah. Yeah, it's that's like like, I'm look,
I was a little badass pyromaniac, but there I've seen enough.
I've had enough near terrible accidents to be like, there's
certain things like if you're not a professional pyrotechnician, leave

(21:49):
it alone for your own safe yeah, for sure, and
even professionals screw up. I mean, do you guys remember
the Maybe you don't because I don't think either of
you have lived in Rhode Island, but the station fire
in Rhode Island, there was this band, I can't remember
what they were called. It was like White something, Oh yeah, pyrotechnics,
and a bunch of people died because they were all

(22:11):
like struggling to get out the club after the pyrotechnics
went off in a wrong and unsafe way, And I'm
just like, not worth it for me. Yeah, great, White,
thank you. Yeah, yeah, I would agree, But I also
feel like it's one of those things that will just
never never get past for some reason, because oh no,

(22:31):
for sure, but I think they're overrated. Every now and then, sure,
do we need the multiple times a year and multiple
holidays with multiple places doing them. I don't know, not
for me, Yeah, it's not. It's not good for people
who have dogs, it's not good for war veterans, it's
not good for all sorts of people like sleep. No
one wants to suddenly hear like just a huge boom

(22:55):
out their window. Like it's just not especially not one again,
You're being like, I'm going to a fireworks display, therefore
I will be looking at the source of the sounds.
I'm just trying to sleep and watch the challenge on
Paramount Plus and have things going off in your head
disrupting your viewing time. Shout out to Paramount plus does
allow you to envision what it would be like if

(23:16):
there was a massive war in your town, because it's
just like the sound the soundtrack sounds very similar. I
think there's some visualization exercises I don't need to do.
What is something you think is underrated? Crumb, I'm gonna
say it's a two way tie between therapy and rabbits.

(23:38):
I mentioned to you earlier off Mike that I just
found out that I'm allergic to rabbits and that like
made me so sad, like it was an indescribable loss
that I was like, Wow, I don't know what I'm
going to hold a rabbit next, and if it will
be a joy to me, because every time I see
a rabbit, instantly I'm happier, instantly happier. I we have

(23:59):
wild rabbits out here in the Cachella Valley. So sometimes
I'll just be like chilling in my room and I
looked out the window and there's a rabbit and I'm
just like, best day ever, and I just go funny
and then I'm happy. I agree. There's something I don't
know if it's because like from childhood, like rabbits have
always we've never seen them as being like vicious animals
unless you watch or that The Life of Brian or

(24:20):
was it The Holy Grail? Yeah, Holy Grail, And that
was I think the only time I can really think
of me seeing a round and being like like when
I was younger, and every other time they're like whimsical.
And when we did a live show out in Minneapolis,
like in the beginning of I didn't know that there
was just bunnies everywhere, and so like we were in
the snow and like in the alleys, they're just hippieby

(24:43):
hoppiting around, and I was like, I couldn't contain my
sort of child like joy. I'm like, hey, man, I
think there's rabbits on the loose. And Something's like no, no,
this is this is what's this is part of that
we have instead of rats. And I'm like, oh, buddy,
rats cool. Yeah yeah, and shout out to therapy too.
Good things you didn't trend out you were allergic to therapy.

(25:06):
I guess the two things no, no, no, skip therapy
for one week and I was just a rack. I
was like, no, I need it. I need to talk
to somebody. I can't hold everything. It's yeah, it's again.
I tell I'm such a I preached the gospel of
therapy as much as I can to friends and family,
because honestly, I'm someone who has thought themselves very emotionally intelligent.

(25:28):
And I've spent a lot of time reading a lot
of psychology books and self help books, but those truly
only get you to a certain point, like without someone
who is trained to help you navigate sort of your
own patterns and proclivities and things like that, you won't
arrive at a place to have that true level of
self awareness where you can begin to see like, oh,
when when I'm stressed and these kinds of things happen,

(25:49):
I typically go down this path where now you can
start seeing things and sort of really understanding yourself rather
than being caught in a loop of being like why
am I stressed out? Or like beating yourself up for
being being angsty or depressed or whatever, and dually understanding
yourself so you can then be like how you like? Really,
I think the biggest thing for me being in therapy
has been you know, you'll have a friend who like

(26:11):
might be telling you something and and tell you about
what they're going through and they're kind of being they're
like beating themselves up, and you're like, oh, come on,
don't do that. And then you're able to be like
because of this, this, this and this, but you're unable
to do that for yourself, you know what I mean? Like,
you'll have the exact same monologue or inner monologue that
is almost word for word with someone who isn't you said,
and you were able to have the wherewithal to soothe them,

(26:33):
make them understand what's going on and it's not bad.
But with therapy, Like I'm able to actually walk myself
through that as I would for someone else. And I
think that's really that's like when you start feeling the
good vibe. So shout out to Dr Schamitra Chames, you
know my therapists. All right, let's take a quick break
and we'll be right back. And we're back, and speaking

(27:07):
of self care, Iceland and Japan just completed some lengthy
trials to understand what the effects of a four day
work week would be on companies, on on employees. And
I'm assuming I didn't look at the results. I'm assuming

(27:27):
it's just like the society fell apart. Yeah right, Yeah,
four days a week. What are you gonna do with that?
What do you do? Bankrupt your business because your drone
workers or sucking around enjoying their families. Yeah, I mean
like a lot of countries have experimented with this, and yeah,
Japan is like trying to propose it officially as of Spain,

(27:49):
Like they're really trying to have lengthy trials to you know,
fundamentally shift how we understand work um and also just
understanding like what its effects are. So in Iceland they
had one of the like probably at this point. The
most comprehensive trial experiment in the world ran from twenty
to across different industries to truly understand, like, what what

(28:12):
happens if we take people from going five days a
week to four days a week and same hours a day,
eight hour day, but just four of them now or
maybe thirty six hour work week, but give them three
days where they're not working and don't and don't reduce
their pay. Here we go. Quote workers reported experiencing better
health and less stress and burnout, and they had more

(28:34):
time to spend with their families or on leisure activities.
Productivity and service provision either remained at similar levels or
improved in the majority of workplaces. Huh. So that's like, yeah,
it's wonderful to hear. The thing I want to say
to all of our American listeners is the big difference
is that in Scandinavia, the trade unions are stronger than

(28:58):
fucking Bruce and Er when he's piste off. They are
they don't funk around, and they are able to actually,
you know, use their collective might to work for better
outcomes for labors. And this is the other thing is
we also have a very you know, very capitalistically worshiping society.
And on top of that, we have you know, big

(29:20):
business always at war with organized labor, and Supreme Court
that doesn't care about anything. So we have a few
things that we'd have to possibly overcome. Plus, the government
invested massively in this program because, as they see it,
this is about fundamentally improving the lives of all of
their citizens. What a concept. That's not the that's not

(29:40):
the government's job. Come on out here, yea. In America,
instead of instead of having you know, protecting the rights
of the laborers, we create somebody who is the richest
man on earth and becomes a famous celebrity by taking
advantage of the fact that America doesn't have good representation

(30:01):
for their workers and that he can make them not
be able to go to the bathroom when they want to.
Are you talking about CEO Entrepreneur Report in nineteen sixty four,
Jeffrey Bezos. Yeah, we so. Our way. Our way is
that we just create celebrities and that and we root
for them for some reason. Instead of you know, rooting

(30:22):
for working for better lives for ourselves, we create people
who can go to space because they're so rich. Yeah,
when it should be like Game of Thrones, like Cercy
with the haircut, ringing the shame bell, like marching billionaires
through the street, be like, let's go Jeff shame people
like boll Yeah, you know that would be very cathartic.

(30:42):
And then we distribute all of this, we distribute all
his wealth. But it's kind of like what we were
talking about with the with the economists on last week's
kind of format breaking episode. There's a rapit outside my window.
I just needed I'm so wided it just it hopped
away as soon as I pointed out here for a
brief not a long time. Sorry, continue, But it's it

(31:04):
feels like it's such a cellular thing, like the just
it's so down to the American psyche and the fact
that America loves an individual and hates a collective that
like they they will do something as stupid as like
let somebody become the richest person in the history of
the planet and start thinking about how they're going to

(31:26):
get them and their family off the planet Earth once
they ruin it, and we'll root for that and read
headlines about that and read news about that, and just
won't won't even let people unionize, like who worked for
that person. Yeah, it's it's I don't know what else
what the battle is gonna look like in the United States,
But I mean, I think this is what this does.

(31:50):
And like the sort of the foothold that a lot
of countries are finding themselves gaining or at least people
who are interested in these four our work weeks, is
that it's really helping too just change the narrative around
what it means to like work and rather than it
feeling like a natural part of life, because truly we're not.

(32:10):
You know this, We're not the way society set up.
It's everything feels completely unnatural, like it's purely to survive
is why people are working. And I think by having
like these experiments to sort of change around what it
means like depending on certain types of industries and things
like that, it's clear that if we work less without
having wages cut, we're happier. But I think in this

(32:32):
country too, you see, employers clearly don't want that to
gain too much traction because we have so much back
to normal messaging that we're being bombarded with constantly, and
it completely ignores the fact that all of these people
passed away, that most of us know someone who has
passed away, that most of us, we're dealing with our

(32:53):
own ship from everything that's happened in the pandemic. So
to start like shoveling this like back to normal stuff
is part parcel to also be like, we can't let
these people get in any ideas on how to shift things,
because the longer they're not than the slog or the
grind of like this forty or fifty hour eighty hour
work week, you know, then they're gonna then ideas begin

(33:14):
to sprout, and you know, movements can tend to gain momentum.
So it's it's it's a tough role. Well, and the
thing about the back to normal messaging is that a
lot of companies prior to COVID did not offer work
from home options for people with disabilities. They just didn't.
They were like, Oh, it's too hard, we can't do it,

(33:34):
and then in a week switch to it when it
was like, oh, we don't want to die, we don't
want to have bad things happen to us. And this
back to normal thing is making it so that people
who were finally able to work from home and do
remote work because of their disabilities, when they hadn't been
able to do that before, are kind of shipped out
of luck. And it's just really concerning to see that

(34:00):
we're not thinking of things holistically. We're not looking at
the big picture, how has this been better for people?
And there are obviously some industries where it is much
harder to work from home. Like I was just working
on a TV show. It's not easy to do a
TV show when everybody's working from home. Is it possible? Absolutely,
except with the actors. That's the part where it gets

(34:20):
kind of tricky. But I mean they made that show
on NBC Connecting where all the actors were in their houses,
So I mean there's a lot that can be done.
And that was specifically about COVID and about like connecting
with people through computer screens and all of that. So
that was a special situation. But I think that back
to normal is really shortsighted, and I think looking more

(34:43):
it is violent. Yeah, absolutely, looking more at these four
day work week options, Shoot, I'm down for a three
day work week. I just feel like we define ourselves
too much by work. So like a couple of years ago,
I stopped asking people what they do, like, oh, what
is your job? When I meet them because it's like, hmm,
that doesn't matter. And like half of my friends, I
don't understand or know what their jobs are, but I

(35:04):
know who they are. It's more like, what are you into?
That's what I like. Guys like what you into? My question?
They're like, Oh, I like to play, you know, banjo
or whatever and do and serve and stuff. I'm like, Okay,
that's see. I I learned I can get more of
an idea than that. And being like I work for
HR at best Buy. Yeah, just the idea that this

(35:28):
is like almost like it's not it's not a thing
where you subtract hours from people's work week and you
subtract the hours of productivity. It's it's more of a
thing where you subtract hours but then productivity either stays
the same or goes up because they are just happier

(35:49):
and like better versions of themselves and more rested, and
there's just overall like a higher morale. Like that is
not it's a counterintuitive. It's it's almost like you're adding
by subtracting. And I'm just hoping that the business world
can kind of get their mind around that, because it

(36:10):
does it seems like just overall better for health, better
for probably everything. If you're you have more well arrested,
happier employees. I mean, do you go to any country
where there's some semblance of real you know, robust social
safety nets or people's knees are provided, the vibe is

(36:32):
so different, Like when you go to like that. I
remember you go to like the first time went to
Scame the Navy. I was like, the happy are frolicking
in a parkership then is this and almost like at
first I had to realize, I'm like, oh man, I'm
like this fucked up, burnt out city rat from the US,
and I'm looking at like a culture where people at

(36:56):
the very least note well, if I want to get
an education, that's that's an option for me. If I
need medical care, that's an option for me. If I
need to take care of my children or an ailing
loved one, that's an option for me. And when you
see those things people like when they're unburdened with those
things or there's not even part of their like concept
of what life is, it makes for very just jovial people,

(37:19):
very kind people, and like even when you go to
you know, places where seemingly in the U S you're like, well,
fast food or retail or whatever, like it's it's just
a it's a hard job to do when it's underpaid,
and you go to places where people are paid like
an actual living wage. It's like they were smiling a ship.
Yeah they said they apologize because they didn't put the

(37:39):
extra onions on that. I don't know what to say,
but yeah, this is again. It's just it's really something
to just see how different vibrational the people are when
so many of these things are off of their plate.
There's something different about the energy when your government, when
when the ruling order of the land is not we're

(38:00):
willing to starve you to death in order to keep
things moving around here. Like you know, I saw this
TikTok that shook me to my core. There was this
Australian woman and she was showing how her kids daycare
sends the kids home with dinner for the adults, and
I was like, I don't understand what this is. I

(38:23):
don't understand what's happening. And they don't pay extra. It's
part of like the sixty Australian dollars that they pay
a day for daycare. And I'm like that's first of all,
that daycare there seems affordable and reasonable. And then you
get food, like they feed your kids, they send the
kids home with a plate for you. Yes, what good?

(38:44):
Like it looked like good food. It did not look
like gross cafeteria food like Square was. I love Square pizza,
but it's gross context. But yeah, that's Yeah. Every time
I see the things like that, I mean it it's
energizing because I'm like, well fuck, I mean some some

(39:05):
places are doing it humanely. Or you see like what
paternity to leave or parental leave is for people and
you're like, I'm sorry, how many months is it to
start your family? It's like they want you to they
want you to win. Okay, okay, yeah almost, yeah almost.
That makes so much sense to me as just the

(39:28):
the act of like feeding your kid is is so
many hours, you know, like just planning. Even if you
order out, it's like a lot of planning and going
to pick it up and versus like hey, I'm fed,
Hi dad, here's your dinner. Yeah yeah, what is that right?
It's like, Hi, I've come back with a plate full

(39:51):
of food for you and and marijuana. It's tough out here.
I'm like, what the funk day care is this? Thank you?
The woman said that there were families that did not
take that option, and I'm like, what's wrong with them?
Like you think they're like scoffing at it where they're like,
thank you so much, we will be fine without that.

(40:14):
I'm like, well, if the first one is good, I'm like,
this is easy. Take Sometimes about like two working parents,
so one parents stays home and they're like, we'll just
cook up for our food for ourselves or something, right,
But Ozzie's like getting if you know about these daycare meals,
send us a review. You know, what's what what, what's
what's usually coming with that? Not to say that it's

(40:35):
the fine dining, but I like food and other any
anyone from another country. If if there's something that you're
a government, like a nice perk that like your government
or like workplace or whatever it is, provides for you
that Americans couldn't couldn't possibly imagine, hit us up with

(40:56):
that too. Don't talk about healthcare though, like we know
we get it. Yeah, alright, let's take a quick break
and we'll come back and talk about Q and on

(41:17):
and we're back and al right, So Q and On
seems like they are. It would seem like it's almost
good news that Q and On is like sort of
getting a level of awareness about themselves that like, oh,
this is a bad look, but they they're also using

(41:39):
that to like become strategically more dangerous. I feel like, yeah, yeah,
so like one thing they're doing is going on school boards,
which is really worrying. Yeah, we talked about that at
a recent like Q convention or whatever. That's what the
big thing was, like, that's what we have to do.
And ever since that Q account when dark, all of

(42:01):
the these followers have been in limbo. Some people have
just been like, dude, this is this was so fucking stupid,
Like the storm is never coming and it's another people
are really trying to keep their hope alive. And those
that are still you know, invested in this conspiracy theory,
you know, against satanic democrats who you know, they've adopted
a new tactic, like you're saying, they're running for school

(42:22):
board and Mike Flynn told them, he said, quote local
action equals national impact. Take responsibility for your school committees
or boards, get involved in the education of our children.
Run for local state and the federal office, no more excuses.
So now they what they're doing is because they can
no longer wait for whatever Q was promising. They're just
marching forward with this idea of like, well, then we

(42:43):
need to save this country. We will begin to go
into the places where children are being educated. We can
begin to define what books need to be read, what
isn't going to be taught, or what will be taught,
and really start throwing their weight around ideologically. And they
also have realized they like you're saying, they gotta they
have to stop even Q and On. So this this
expert who writes about him said, quote, if you identify

(43:04):
as Q and on, people look at you like you're crazy.
But if you passionately talk about how we need to
be saving children and protecting them from trafficking, then you
come off as a compassionate person who really cares about
the welfare of children. You're no longer one of those
crazy cult people who thinks Hillary Clinton is trafficking kids
in a tunnel under Central Park. And in Michigan, there
were students who are demanding that a school member resigned

(43:27):
because she was so up in Q world and her
like Twitter was just just straight que stuff and she
would and she refused to resign. And then when the
press asked her about, you know, like what's going on
and like, you know, are you do you follow Q
and on? She said, quote, there's no such thing as
Q and on. Wow. So they're doing this like winky shit,
you know, and trying to get in and these sort

(43:49):
of off year low turnout local elections because no one's watching,
and those are easy ways to get in and get
a foothold. But it's it's it's really wild because I mean,
even though these people are very easy to spot, because
eventually they'll start saying some ship that is not about education.
Then you can be like, okay, I think I know

(44:09):
who you are. But they're being very strategic in acting
than maybe in playing dumb if you start talking about
you and on and so the thing that they're putting
forward is their opposition to child trafficking, which seems like, yes, okay,
that's something that we all can get behind, except the
way they picture child trafficking and describe it when they're

(44:30):
talking about like saving our children, is they're picturing these
like groups sneaking into homes usually probably they think Democrat groups,
but sneaking into homes and kidnapping their children from their
suburban beds and selling them to be distributed in furniture
ordered online or whatever. But so it's like built on

(44:54):
the satanic panic of the eighties, the stranger danger panic
in like already in the seventies and going into the eighties,
and that's still around today, which is, even though crime
has dropped precipitously since like the fifties, sixties, seventies, we
still think that children are constantly in danger in our

(45:15):
communities because of like how the local news has turned
into just a litany of you know, stories about kidnappings
and children being missing. And the truth is that child
trafficking is most often caused by poverty, underrepresented communities, the
child welfare system being underfunded and broken, drug abuse, poor

(45:38):
mental health support, and most importantly, a labyrinthine immigration system
that and I can't stress us enough separates children from
their fucking parents at the border and doesn't reconnect them
like and so it's just like all these systemic problems
that they're chosen party loves to underfund or you know,

(46:00):
just deconstruct is what is fueling the problem that they're
quote unquote like trying to fight, but it like doesn't
their actual like politics, them having positions on school boards
or any decision making body will actually lead to increased
child trafficking just because they are sucking up those systems

(46:23):
that cause child trafficking. Yeah, it's it's it's mind blowing.
And especially when like a lot of people who are
truly like you know, active in the space for advocating
for victims of child trafficking, they're like, please, you're doing
this all wrong. If you really give a funk, come
talk to us, Like yeah, exactly, And that's where you

(46:43):
realize it's like everything right where a lot of these
kind of conservative conspiracies and things probably it's never about
what the funk they're talking about. There's always a battle
against progress, that's all it is. That then this one
is just this has been taken up by more people
who have that hook is a little more attractive to
them than like whatever, if it's you know, the government's
gonna take your guns. There's that group of people who

(47:04):
really just don't like that they're seeing this the face
of America change and look more diverse and in the
same way, and grant you're in it, there's all kinds
of diverse Q followers, but at the end of the day,
if you when you really start reading into it, it'll
always end up in some kind of George Soros anti
Semitic thrope, some kind of like BLM is like making

(47:26):
up everything to distract us from you know, and it's
all all roads are pointing back to just maintaining the
status quo. Because one of the most vocal people in
like this new sort of you know, second wave of
Q and on or third wave Q and I don't know,
I don't know what wave there on yet, but you know,
he's been out here saying the ship that you just
hear about, like how most conservatives really wanna, you know,

(47:49):
sort of paint what's happening in culture. What they'll say
is that their kids are being carried away. This is
from this guy. His name's Drake Works is his name.
He says, they're being carried away through our education system,
through the woke ideology that's infiltrated professional sports, through sexual
grooming and pedophilia that's impairing in the entertainment industry. We
need to we need to run for precinct committees, we

(48:10):
need to run for city council, run for school board,
and primary the rhinos in this room, and all that
to say is right, we get it. You're looking at
America changing very quickly, and you're and you're accusing Republicans
who aren't going like full force being like put brown
people into camps, uh, that they are now Republicans in

(48:31):
name only. So it's a very you know, this is this,
this is the fucking foolish box that has been opened,
and you know, this is now looking like something that
could affect every single person now if this campaign to
infiltrate local government is successful. So that's why I also
suggest people, you know, look for holding office locally, you know,
see if you can get involved in the community, because

(48:53):
they're damn sure are people who have the worst ideas
trying to run your life at some point. So it's
so frustrating because a lot of those people who have
these very broken ideas of what the systems are and
what the system should be, and who are like, oh yeah,
run for office, they have a lot of inherited wealth
that enables them to do that effectively, whereas the people

(49:14):
who are trying to shift the system are still trapped
by it and are less able to do things like
run for office. So it's just like really infuriating. Grassroots
organizing is so important. Make sure you know who's running
down ballot in your elections, and make sure you support
people whose ideologies are the same as yours. And really,
don't just look at parties, look at actual platforms, because

(49:36):
just because someone says they're in your party doesn't mean
that they have the same platform as you. No, not
at all. And I think it's it's also important to
realize like, unfortunately, like the middle class, upper middle class,
college educated people, especially white people, are not going to
be the same kinds of agents of change and a
representative level that working class people would be if they

(49:59):
had acts us to these levers because people are looking
at it from completely different experiences. Not to say there's
no empathy, but just if you look at what motivates people,
the people who are going to be able to bring
as like the real kind of to articulate a lot
of the things that really need to change are the
people that are living day to day under the same stressors.

(50:19):
And yeah, that's why again it's really important. Again, I
know it's hard because ship you could get blown out
by some golf course, country club owning, person's kid who
wants to run for city council or local with the
neighbor precinct leader or whatever. But at the same time,
you do see these small pockets where you know, people
who are really dedicated are able to find the subgrassroots

(50:41):
support to actually make a you know, a formidable bid
for office. But yeah, it's it's just a lot to
to to think about. At every level where you need
motion and some radical change, you have people there who
don't have the imagination to do it. So if it's
brought to them, they're like, I don't know, this is
this That's not how we do anything here. And they

(51:03):
also got a lot of traction because they're operating through fear.
Like I am a woman and I exist on the
internet and I see a lot of like female spaces
and a lot of fear mong bring about getting trafficked
in those female spaces, and it's always like this is
the new tactic that people are using and target parking lots,
and it's always a target parking lot. Apparently it never

(51:25):
happens like a Coals parking lot. Soals, if you're trying
not to get traffics it's a psi op from coals
to be like, what we're gonna do is see this
idea that should happens in a target parking lot, and
then they're gonna come. They're gonna get their coals cash. No,
but seriously, it's always like, at least once a week,
I see a post in Facebook groups that I'm in

(51:45):
for women, and I know I'm old, I'm so on Facebook,
but I like it to me. But it's always like
if you see a person who asks you this question
about if you've seen where they have the oreos, then
they're gonna kidnap you, And I'm like, or they're just
some be looking for oreos and you are paranoid, or
like like there are all these different signs and signals

(52:07):
and this is the new way and this is the
new way. And at first when I started seeing him,
I was like scared. I was genuinely scared. And then
I started doing more research and it's like, no, it
is still that satanic panic, stranger danger like Q and
on pipeline. It's all the same stuff, and they're just
trying to erase the fact that most trafficking happens from
people that you already know, and then you've built relationships

(52:29):
with and it's not about this stranger in like a
cloak who's usually brown, coming and get you and steal
you away from your loving suburban family. Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
And there are victims of trafficking who have been lifelong
you know, advocates working with various administrations to try and

(52:54):
you know, actually attack the you know, societal rot that
makes trafficking possible and as frequent as it is. And
they when they try to correct que people online I
get accused of, you know, being part of the problem
or uh, you know, yeah, being part of the cover

(53:14):
up to so that I mean, I can't imagine how
frustrating that is. All right, Well, get involved in your
local politics, even if it's not you find a person
who you or be aware at the very least. Don't
let don't don't get blindsided by not knowing who you
know who's trying to make decisions in your community. Man,

(53:37):
it's so easy to you know, because we have so
much focus on our media on the federal level and
things like that. But ship when you when you really
look at how your own cities run, you'll either be
like really impressed and you're like oh wow, like I'm wow,
this is great, or you might be horrified and then
you might realize Okay. So rather, when the next election

(53:57):
comes up, I just don't go D or whatever party
on voting for, and we realize this person is actually
against addressing homelessness aggressively. So no, I don't care how
long you've been there. It's because we need people. Now
we're looking at it differently. Not here to take up
for the you know, Carusoe real estate group and follow
the money, because like I found it very suspicious when

(54:19):
Uber and Lift Indoor Dash and all those people were like,
we don't have money that parent employees, but then funneled
all of their money into that campaign about what, we
don't have money to pay our employees, so make it
so their independent contractors please, And it's garbage, and costs
have gone up, and they don't have protections, like there

(54:40):
are not protections against reporting sexual assaults the same way
that there would be were they employees there. They just
aren't there. Yeah, and now I find myself even less.
I'm like fuck it, I'll drive because I'm a part
of me is like I used to just you know,
I would like tip to offset you know, like what
it because I know, for a lot of the time,
like you can barely cover your if people aren't tipping

(55:01):
you correctly. But now like when you see like what,
they're caught because a lot of people have just stopped
doing it because on like the math just doesn't work
for them, Like you know, these are not I'm I'm
in the in the red when I when I drive
for Uber, So how does that work for me? And
I think, yeah, like I'm like, well, you know, I'll
start driving to take a cab if I have to,
but you'd hope that, you know, stuff would be great

(55:23):
if that were a better option. And yeah, I mean,
you know, eventually, eventually, eventually, I mean my friend came
over on four the July and was like when he
was leaving, he was like, oh, I need to like
I'm gonna have to take the bus because the fucking
Uber rates were they knew how many people needed Uber

(55:47):
that day and so they were just crazy. But you know,
and he takes the bus. People take the bus in
l A. Oh no, I'm not I'm not getting that
at all, But I'm saying it's tough though, Like the
way it's set up though, like it's inefficient and it
ends up take away hours in the day for people
who if they had a car, like you know, they
wouldn't be spending like a third of their life on

(56:07):
public transit because of the way things set up in
people in certain neighborhoods and absolutely rejecting the concept of
public transit going through where they live. Yeah, alright, let's
talk streaming ratings real quick. So you know, the this
weekly report that Nielsen is dropping is from a month ago,
but it recently came out with a report that said

(56:30):
sweet Tooth. I don't know, I don't know if you
guys remember that Netflix series where like the Child, Half Child,
Half Deer is what one D comics based on DC
comic that you know has been around for a little while,
I guess, but it was the number one thing. But

(56:50):
it also has like eight episodes, and this whole thing
is based on numbers of minute, number of minutes watched,
so when you like take that into account, the top
things that were watched this week where Ryan the Last
Dragon on Disney Plus, which I think just went from
like costing money to not costing money a month ago,

(57:14):
and Loki and Loki comes out like one episode at
a time, so with one episode available, it was watched.
You know, like what if you divide the number of
minutes by number of episodes, like those one off movies
were watched like four and five times as much as

(57:35):
like some of these streaming shows, which you can't you
can't like necessarily make it do that math. I'm sure
people were only like watching one episode of Sweet Tooth
or whatever some of the times. But can we can
we go back to that really quick that it's that
half boy deer or have human have deer? I just
googled it, which it looks like a child who has

(57:58):
like fun dear ears and antlers, but the rest is
just like a human body. Oh like sugar, we're going
down exactly, Oh my god, I'm there. Yeah, um, but
like what what are the ratios? You know? But I

(58:19):
guess I'm sure we're going down. He didn't have the
human ears, right, the sugar we're going down? Guy going
down swinging the boyfriend Like the whole conceited the video
was that the dad hated the boyfriend because he had
the antlers and the antlers to get stuff on stuff,
And then it turned out that the dad had like
dear hind legs or something, and that's why it was
like he was self hating. I don't know why I

(58:41):
still have that in my spirit, but yeah, so he
had ears and antlers. I think loaded god complex, cock
it and pullet. Let's get down. But the whole thing
with this, I'm curious, like, if you're gonna be a hybrid,
this is where I get. This is when I went
because the second you said half dear, half human, I
pictured a centaur. Right. How much of the body do we, collectively,

(59:02):
the three of us, do we believe if you are
a dual species hybrid? What's the ratio of uh features, appendages,
bodied style that you need to have that it doesn't
because this just seems like like a kid with antlers.
You know, I'm not I'm not really feeling the whole
like I don't know if his feet or hooves or what.
But I'm curious if you feel if you're as neurotic

(59:23):
as I am and being like there are not enough
dear features. This is merely a childhood ash. And I
don't know why I'm thinking that. I think if you
look at a Punnett square, like it depends on a
lot of chance in terms of genetics, and there's like, Okay,
I feel like, I don't know, it's kind of I
don't I'm not comparing mixed race people to animals. I

(59:46):
just want to be very clear on that. But with
mixed race people, there are people who are siblings who
look completely different, but they have the same quote unquote
percentage of their parents d n A. So I'm wondering
in this if you can have somebody who is part
dear and like the same level of parts. Although Anna

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has said that it's about a disease where people start
having half animal kids and then they want to exterminate
them all because they don't get it. So I don't
think it's genetics now that I'm looking at that. So
some kind of global ailment. Okay, if that makes sense,
that makes sense, But that would be close that this
is my sister, Like that's a dear and you're like,
fuck you man, are you serious? Right? Jack Horseman kind

(01:00:31):
of delves into that where they have human animal relationships
and then there will be like a dear child and
a human child and their siblings. Yeah, sorry, what we're
saying about streaming so well. Barry Barry Diller came out
and was like the movie industry as we know it
is dead because like people aren't like they're not doing
the same like huge marketing campaigns. And again that it

(01:00:53):
was an interview with MPR where he I have to
believe was using a body double who was in an
old man mass just based on the picture, people can
go look at it themselves. But like, I mean that's
true in so far as like all industries and all
things are constantly evolving and the version of them that
existed yesterday is dead today. But like I still think

(01:01:14):
movies have more cultural like juice in terms of like
how much of a mind share and like how much
of the images that we have in our unconscious minds,
like they are contributing to over over streaming content over
really anything else. Like when you look at like even

(01:01:35):
those streaming movies that you know dominated this week Ryan
and Loki isn't a movie, but it was. It was
one episode at a time, like they are. We're looking
at like nine million people watching them this week, and
like f nine has been watched by fifty million people.
So it's it's like the movies that are that a

(01:01:58):
lot of people go see are still like being like
injected into the global shared consciousness, like I think more
than really anything else. Yeah, I mean, I think until
like the act of going to a theater is fully done,
that's when I think the industry has a problem, because

(01:02:18):
there's just going to a movie is just still a
very enjoyable experience for the most part. And because of that, Yeah,
I think until that shifts in some fundamental way where
people like to I don't need movie theaters anymore because
I don't know, we were able to wear oculist headsets
that it makes everything imax or projection technology changes such

(01:02:39):
where the you know, the screens are watching. But I
think there's just something too about it's like a real
low energy concert going to a movie. You know, like
you're there other people like, yeah, they must sunk with
the two if they're here, So whatever, let's watch this
will laugh and then or cry or whatever, and then
we leave and you kind of have that sense of
being around people. But yeah, I don't know, Barry Diller,
just stick to being the old guy. I feel like movies,

(01:03:03):
we're still gonna want to have that experience, and probably
more now that we've been deprived of like collective human experiences.
But I think that the movie industry as it exists
should change. I don't think it should die, but I
think it should change a lot. And like, I think
that more movies should be accessible, Like there are a
lot of movie theaters that don't give great caption options.

(01:03:25):
I wish there's least two showings every day. Yeah, I
wish at least two showings every day captions on the screen.
Like I would go to those showings. And I am
a hearing person, but people don't think the good acting
is whispering. I don't know when that happened, but people
are like, can tell you right, Like, no, I can't

(01:03:47):
hear you. I'm sorry. It was when Lost in Translation
got away with like the big ending line being whispered
and we couldn't hear it, And people are like, oh,
ship that how that movie ends? Never seen Lost in Translation? Yeah,
there's like a big whispered moment where we don't know what. Yeah,
I'm not watching that, but no, it's like, if you

(01:04:11):
make things accessible to more people, more people will do
the thing. And I don't know where that's getting Lost
in Translation for the people who are in charge. Um,
but yeah, I think that there was something really powerful
about seeing like Trolls World Tour do really well, both
do well, do really well with streaming, because like taking

(01:04:32):
kids to the movies is I'm sure you know, Jack,
a true hassle. It's like, it's it's an adventure. And
if you can watch a movie with your kids at
home and you can watch it again and again and
again because the kids are gonna watch it again and
again and again and it's more financially accessible, then that's
gonna be great. And they're just there needs to be
a hybrid model where people aren't thinking about the way

(01:04:54):
that we've been doing it and thinking about how we
can push things forward and innovate make movies better for
more people. Yeah, I think, Yeah, it's things things that
I was just gonna say. If if you like watching
movies over and over again with the kids, you guys,
check out Davids. Oh man, it's a DVD technology. Rather

(01:05:14):
than renting the most expensive DVDs from your home, you
can buy never Mind you all remembers that's stupid as
pay per view DVD thing. You have to pick your
DVD there to a phone line. Never mind for the
real tech laims out there. I was I was just
about to google it and be like, oh shoot, I
gotta get You know, it was a thing because the
DVD would be like thirty bucks or whatever. In the

(01:05:36):
early days, they're like by a divis and then like
every time you want to watch it, it's only like
two bucks. And then over time you can just watch
it and not have to pay for buying the Matrix
on DVD. You just rent it. But people are like,
watch the Matrix fifteen times. It's not worth it for me.
They're like, how does this working? Like it has to
be in a phone. I was like, yeah, just dial

(01:05:57):
in and then we'll charge you, and they're like, this
is it. It didn't last for more than two seconds.
But but to uh, Barry Diller's point, though, like something
that felt very different to me and knew was so
this movie that Tomorrow War came out on Amazon last
weekend with Chris Prett pretty America's least favorite Chris Well

(01:06:17):
apparently not because so I was just based on the marketing,
Like there there was some marketing, but it didn't seem
like anybody was really like talking about it that it
was trending that many places Mike Mitchell from Dough Boys
in it, so I had heard him talk about it
a lot, and and Sam Richardson's in it, like it's
the sort of thing that I should have like kind

(01:06:38):
of been into, but I was just like, it really didn't.
The marketing didn't do it for me. It just seemed
like a vague action movie. And but it was only
released on Amazon Prime, and it apparently was like very
successful on Amazon Prime, which I was I did not
see coming just based on like it seemed like the
sort of thing that was going to flop if it

(01:06:59):
had been in theaters. But for whatever reason, Amazon Prime
is saying that it's like broke all their records, and
everybody watched mhm broke their records. Though who's watching other
things on Amazon Prime? Like who's watching a ton of
movies on Amazon Prime? Not to share down, which, um,
I don't know anybody who's seen this movie, which doesn't

(01:07:22):
mean anything because I'm in my own little liberal bubble,
but like very interesting to hear that. Yeah, it was
very popular internationally, which I think a lot of action
movies tend to be, and and to your point, the
number one movie in the history of Amazon Prime to
that point. So the records it was breaking were from

(01:07:43):
coming to America too, so that that's not like that's
a movie that probably would have been successful where we
not in the middicipal global pandemic, but it wouldn't have
been like a holds the record for the box office
in a giving year type thing, right. I heard that
it's full coppaganda from our producer Anna that that Tomorrow

(01:08:05):
what's the movie? I can't even remember the name of
the movie, Tomorrow War? Is that the Tomorrow War? Yeah,
it's a bad name. It used to be called the
Ghost Draft and then it was turned called the Tomorrow
War and they're all bad. Apparently it's full coppaganda according
to Ana Hosnia. But yeah, it's got a really good
cast of comedians like Sam Richardson, Marylyn Rice Cop and
Mike Mitchell. So he shout out to cops. Well, Karama,

(01:08:30):
it has been such a pleasure having you on the daily.
Where can people find you? And Folly, people can follow
me at Karama Drama on Twitter and Instagram and people
can find me um. I was in a web series
called Tricycles that just came out this summer. Check it
out on I think It's tricycles show dot Com and

(01:08:53):
check out my episode of My carle that's gonna air
on July. Ratulations again, is there a tweet or some
of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Is there? Yes?
America's favorite Auntie Dion Warwick tweeted yesterday about how she's
been learning about memes, but she's spelled it capital m E,

(01:09:16):
capital m E, So I think she's calling the memes,
which just drills me. Yeah, so she said, I'm trying
to learn about mimi's. I want to make one on
my own with this photo. What would you create? And
then it's a picture of this dog holding a ball
that looks like it's from a ball pit, just like
a yellow dog. And it just makes me so happy.

(01:09:37):
And the way that like people are responding is very
sweet and wholesome, and everybody's like, yeah, Auntie Dion, I'll
help you. This is a meme I would make. This
is a meme I would make. And I just think
we should all treat each other on the internet the
same way we'd treat Dion Warwick on the internet. Yeah,
for sure. Unfortunately it's easier said than done. Oh yeah
for sure, Miles. Where can people find you? What's a

(01:09:59):
tweet you've been enjoying find me Twitter, Instagram at Miles
of Gray and also the other show for twenty day Fiance.
Check that one out twitch dot tv Slash four twenty
D Fiance. If you like ninety D Fiance and wheat
or either it works, it works either way. A tweet
that I like from Dana Donnelly at Dana donn Lee

(01:10:19):
deal n l Y tweeting my ex would always reply
to random girls Instagram stories, and when I called him on,
he was like, well, if it makes you feel better,
they usually don't even respond, like, oh yeah, death makes
me feel better to learn my boyfriend is not only shady,
he's also undesirable. He keeps coming with the fucking heat
rocks on Twitter. So yeah. A couple of tweets I've

(01:10:42):
been enjoying. Earl Sweatshirt tweeted, I thank God every day
that my son has a pleasure to be around. He
saves his greatest challenges for his strongest soldiers, and he
knows I'm not strong enough to be locked in with
a bad vibes baby. Very true of me as well.
And then Katie Sex have her Saint Ange at Skati

(01:11:04):
fo twenty tweeted description too nervous to ask for emotional support. Man,
it smells like wrong dog in here? Oh man, I
think that might be my favorite tweet. What's wrong dog?

(01:11:28):
Oh my god, that's so good mastered the form, wowweet,
well done man, wrong dogging and then into tears when
they ask you, yeah, it smells like wrong. You're gonna

(01:11:50):
that on my therapist, like, yeah, it smells like wrong dogs?
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as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
what song do we think people might enjoy? This is
gonna be a track from Salt. You know, if you
remember Will from the Public Trouble podcasts on each time

(01:12:33):
about Salt and you know it is a great band.
And let's just let's take out look, we've we've gone
out on why Why Why? Why? Why before, But this
time we'll do wildfires. And yeah, it's just this is
good music, man, it's good music. It's nice to hear
people play instruments and be joyful and it sounds good.
So this is Salt s a u l T with wildfires.

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