A Very Dark Game, Old Phone What’s Dis? 5.14.19

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eighty two, Episode
two of Thursdaily Night Geist, a production of I Heart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's share consciousness and say, officially, off the top,
fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox Newsics. Tuesday, May fourteen,
two thousand nineteen. Names Jack O'Brien aka how Stella got

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her group Jack courtesy Kelly kittrean ak Rose of the
Radical and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by
my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Go host Wease the
newsy Day That's the Hottest Ekes takes on to the face.

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The podcast is second read give it up for Miles Ray,
Dan Dan Dan Dan Dandy. Okay, so that is to
the tune of there she goes by the Lallas? Were
they called the la las or the law anyway? That
was from Will Kendrick at socol Ge VHS. Oh some

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Japanese y see the man. Well. We were third to
be joined in their third scene by the hilarious and
talented Kelly Nugent. Ya. Thanks so much for having me. Guys, Hey,
thanks for being here. We're just talking about, you know,
growing up in l A. Yeah, you know how that
goes about you grew up in Torrance, said, I grew

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up in Torrance. Yeah, I went to the bad schools,
not high Oh what's the good school? And I was
where my mom taught. And she was always like, wouldn't
it be fun if I taught at year school? And
I was like, good have did you ever go to
school with like in high school? Did you ever have
kids whose parents were teaching at the high Yeah, they
had to act like funk. They were an occult. I

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remember I was like, bro, you are so boring because
your mom could be like billy, yeah you wait that
to be extra good. You mean, yeah, they just weren't
like they I don't know, I feel like they could
tell that they had this sort of air of like
they had to not embarrass their parents at school because then,
like we wouldn't take their mom seriously. Yeah, you you
do get like kind of because my mom was super

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super strict growing up, like crazy strict um And I
remember being horrified that people would find out how strict
my mom was if she was like at my school.
And I remember one time she subbed. This was back
when she was subbing. She subbed in my fifth grade
class and there's something wrong with her. Afterwards, she's like,
you know, and they said that I was pretty strict

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and I was like, that's not good, mom, cool, I
call it discipline. They're going to thank me. Yeah, I
had strict parents too, and uh yeah, it's always funny.
People are like, what is your dad not cool? I
don't know that. I know, I know. All I could
do is make sure I'm cool and end the cycle. Yeah,

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I mean I tried really hard to be cool. It
didn't stick per se, right, Like I was way too
into wearing like as Merelda on my shirts for like
way too long, and like, um, got like Disney hiking
boots and would wear would to school. Yeah, so Disney
was your person when h is going to break out

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the emergency hid, I feel like, well, I'm prepared, um,
not necessarily just Disney stuff. But like just like people
called me like baby ish a lot, like so I
like didn't I was just weird. I don't know. I
liked the things I liked and yeah, I mean now
I'm proud of that, but at the time it was
like She's playing dolls in the bathroom and meanwhile, meanwhile,

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Miles was that getting maced party? That was like my dream.
He was the when a party would have been at
your high school and then the kids from the other
school district would show up. Miles Miles was those kids?
Or we would we would we would clock out of
school kids real quick at our parties, Like y, who
is this all the day from taff Is that moose crew? Okay,

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we got something. So were you guys like the hotties
from another school when you went into the party? Oh?
I was the guy in band who say weed but
had a razor sharp wit, which is what is the
entry to the other parties. Yeah, you're like a jester. Yeah,
ship that kids selling his wisdom tooth pain killers ten

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times over. Bring him in the Tyrian lanister of the
Hell Yeah exactly. All right, Well, Kelly, we're going to
get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things
we're talking about today. Oh, we're going to talk about
all of the fine people who have named their children

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in the year two thousand eighteen after Game of Thrones characters,
and how some of those names have probably taking a
dive on the names let's not you know, spoil anything. Well,
we'll talk about specifically what happened, but we'll talk about
the most popular names, and then we'll respond to the episode.

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In the third act, we're gonna talk about all millennials
and gen xers and boomers having a laugh at gen
Z and their response to rotary phones. Yeah, ability to
make sense of that. We found a way to, you know,
put our differences aside generationally to realize, ye don't know,
he's a rotary phone. Shout out to being old. We're

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going to talk about the fact that they're selling navel
cheese of famous people. It's on it's on display. Maybe
you could buy when you naval cheese. I'm sorry, I
think it's like belly button. Listen. Oh yeah, these aren't
these aren't well hold on, well we'll explain it's not
just a straight up grit you get out of there

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after a steam room. Okay, okay, maybe I got it wrong.
No you no, it is right. But his bacteria used
to culture the milk to then give the cheese its
flavor profile. Oh that's even worse. Cool China. We're going
to talk about the go fund me for the wall

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that turns out, wasn't shockingly like like all those email
forwards that people who support Trump send you was not
totally on the up and up. Then in Act three,
we're gonna talk about it being a tough weekend for
UH sixers fans and for people who are big Game

(06:38):
of Thrones fans, certain people who are big Game of
Thrones fans. Uh So we'll we'll talk about all of
that and more. But first, Kelly, what is something from
your search history that's revealing about who you are? Um?
I googled our chastity belts real? Like now? Like or

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they ever? Where are they? Where are they? Where can
I get one? You know what? What did you learn?
They're not real? They're not They're not real. That okay,
So chastity belts in general are real. They're mostly used
for fetish play. But the ones that we see, like
the one in um uh is, like the the idea

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of a of a chastity belt was actually like really
similarly used as in that movie as a joke. So
basically people would be like, oh, put on your chastity belt,
I'm going to war, and women would be like, how
you oppressing me? And like let it lie, hope, you're not.
I'm gonna everyone. Um so, yeah, they're not like and

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the ones that you see in like uh you know
those like museums of a rock whatever. Yeah. Right, So
they're either torture devices or they are devices made for
the fruient, which is like people that um it's kind
of a derogatory term for people that are like sexually deviant.
I guess right. Um, so it's kind of like, um,

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they were either made for like conversation pieces where like
a collector would be like, oh, look at my piece
or whatever. But um, all of those were actually made
uh in or later and not during medieval times. So
that's that's the kind of stuff. I think it's interesting, Like, yeah,
there's a lot of things from history are jokes that

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we just forgot we're jokes. I think we forgot that
his Historically people have had humor, Like we're just like, oh,
well that how to be real. But sex and humor,
I guess we kind of make room for sex. But
like there's a like, yeah, I don't think we make
a lot of jokes. We we tend to put the
little fig leaf over the sex parts. We think it's

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all uptight people and like in actuality. Puritan society had
to have all those rules because people were like fucking
everywhere and purious, like in the bushes. You'd be walking
down the stream and people would be flicking in the bushes. Uh.
And yeah, Napoleon was not short. That was a rumor
made to make fun of him. He was average height. Really. Yeah,

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so it's just like, I feel like a chump. I've
been believing this my whole life. Well, you look really
ridiculous right now. I'm not gonna lie Internet, who should
we release this episodes? I'm going to exercise the clause
that says I can explode this episode and we don't
have to. Yeah, but I agree people like when you

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look back at graffiti back in the day, it's all
dick jokes and like stuff that could be out of
you know, high school locker room now. Yeah, or even
like um like people that look back on things in
history and try and look at through look at it
through super heteronormative lens, whether they're like um oh, like
King James had a very best friend that he had

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a secret like passageway from his bedroom to best friend's bedroom. Yeah, exactly,
it was like that for real, And um, I was
researching about this, and the King James Bible was actually
made because the church was kind of like getting in
his business for him being pretty openly gay with his lover,

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and he was like, here's a fun thing that you
can do that, why don't you make a new Bible?
And they were like, yeah, what is something you think
is overrated? Okay, I think it's really overrated to be
an expert on everything, Like there's kind of this. I

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think it's really cool to say like I don't know sometimes,
and I feel like we are so trained to just
like make something up to be like, oh, I know everything.
I have to be an expert on everything because we
live in a world where information so like transferred so
quickly and so accessible. But like, ah, that bugs the

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ship out of me, Like when people just cannot say,
you know, I don't know, I don't I don't have
enough knowledge about this thing, or like I don't have
enough expertise on this thing, so I don't know, and
instead it's like I I know everything, I have to
know everything. I think that shit is so fucking overrated.
So actual wisdom is very in admitting what you don't know. Yeah,

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because yeah, I think because precisely because I think we're
such an information heavy era and everything is so readily
available it almost feels like, well, all you have to
do is look it up to know, so that we
feel like maybe we feel this pressure that like, well
then maybe I should know everything because I could find
out most things I do. And I think that for me,
there's almost kind of I'm a little hypocritical on it

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because if I'm talking to someone like over text or
this was back in the day when I was in
law school over g chat, where if you said something
and someone didn't know what you were talking about, and
they'd be like, what is that typing it into the
thing with you? And I'd be like, you can just
type that the Google here. Let me move that five
inches this window for you. But so I guess like

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resourcefulness is like important, but like also, if you're not
gonna be resourceful about it, don't just make shu it up,
just be like I don't know, yeah, totally. Yeah. I
I feel like the I mean, the more you learn,
the more you realize you don't know and right, And

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actually I think that that is like Socrates or something
like that, like, uh, the wise people know, how dumb
they are or something like that. But um, and I
mean that even goes to like the fact that you
went to law school and like people who get an education.
I think a quote I heard about, like why a
college education is valuable from somebody is that it actually

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humbles you, like because you realize because it you have
to like know a lot to realize, like that there's
just this entire universe of information out there that you
do not totally shit about well, Like and even I
went to law school and I practiced law for two years,
and like that I was bad at being a layer,

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and like I like learning that and being like, oh,
this is just not for me because a I really
hate it and be like I'm just not good at
this kind of job. Like learning that there are things
that you're not good at and that's okay is like,
I don't know, I feel like that's as important as
learning about it also helps you sort of come in
touch with things that are actually like you are good at,

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so then you can kind of look at those things
and like, oh, well, I know I'm not Oh I
actually have these other skills. I do feel like people
are like the way that conspiracy theories are and I
don't know if they're at an all time high, but
they're at least as influential as they've ever been. I
feel like people now are are more likely to overestimate

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how much they know than they ever have been. Like,
we're really bad at knowing what we don't know as
a society, and that's probably a result of the Internet
and probably says something about our overall wisdom as a culture. Um, yeah,
so we're fucked. Yeah, we're pretty fucked. Let's talk about

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because we actually get to see what you're underrated is
because you filled it in and it's equally way the subject.
What is something you think is underrated? Water Chili Dog,
It's so good. Everyone dunks on it for being the
worst fast food chain. Is so good. Help me understand

(14:42):
why you love the chili. Its salty and ship like feels.
It all becomes like one most people would consider as
like medium at best, just scryptions, like not necessarily like
the chili is so salty, it's not like something that

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immediately commends the chili to somebody, Oh my god, and
the cheese congeals, so it's like kind of pressure so
high you'll get a bloody nose. Looks like a hoy.
I do feel very sick after I eat it. It's true,
and like in what way, like just digestively or overall?

(15:25):
You have like a malaise that comes over the sodium
content makes me have heart palpitations, Like I will feel
very like my heart will be racing and I'm just like,
what do you have for a drink with that? A
sixty four mountain? Yeah? Okay. One of my best friends,

(15:50):
one of my best friends is a huge dm D head,
and she would go through like caces in college. No, no, no, no,
I didn't know her during that time. I know her
now works marketing got you equally equally fucked up? Well, no,
I think dad, I have been at various times in

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my life I'm lovering dm D hard. Yeah, when when
things get out of controls Uh yeah, But I think
the Wiener Schnitzel company has some good pull quotes that
they can pull from that section. So we can probably
move on to your myth? Uh what is a myth?

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What's something people think it's true you know to be false. Well,
for that, it was the chastity about thing because that's
where I discovered, right, how compact your search was my
which alright, busted. We can move on to the poor
people who named their children after Game of Thrones characters. Well,

(16:52):
I guess before when we talk about this, because some
things could could act as a spoiler, you know what
I mean? Yeah, So I guess let's just keep it
very clear about what's you know what I don't know? Yeah,
Or maybe let's let's move this to the third act.
We're going to talk about the Game of Thrones baby
names that we can go in one that that way
we can really talk about the some of these investments.

(17:17):
I'm just going to invest my child's life in the
plot of this show and hope that things go well
for this character. Let's talk about these gen Z whipper
snappers who don't know. So it's not that they don't
know like that they've never used a rotary phone. It's
that they don't even know how to like make sense
of a rotary well, yeah, because they've never seen a

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rotary Right. So, there's been like this new trend of video.
I've seen a few, and there's one that got really
popular over the weekend of just this adult putting a
rotary front rotary phone in front of these two young guys,
I don't know, maybe late teens or something, and just
gave him a phone number, said, I challenge you to
dial this phone number and make a call on this
rotary phone. And it's we take for granted, right, do

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you know how he's rotary phone? Rosary phone? Grace? Can
you come to my place? Yes? Uh so, okay, you're
know how to use rotary phone. You're good on the
rotary phone. I think my parents had a rotary phone
when I was like two, Like, I think there was
one around the house. I used to play with one
of my grandma's house. Yeah. See that's how I came
up on it because my grandparents had one. They had

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in the late eighties. They were still rocking us. I'm like,
uh and do you know how he's a rotary phone? Okay, okay,
so we're all good. Damn okay, Okay, everybody. When everyone
here knows it's going to get hurt from anything, the
youngest person there will be a test where we bring
in the phone. Anyway. So these videos are kind of
fun because they're not just sort of like they're not
like you know, a grow like look at you foking idiot.

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It's just kind of like this kick we get out
of realizing, oh we have these skills from a bygone era,
and technology moves so fast. I just wanted to just
for people who do know how to use use a
rotary phone. If you're old and washed, listen to this
clip because just hearing these two young men trying and
figure out the rotary phone is just warms my heart.
So you don't stop at this. Oh the last one

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you just successfully dial zero. So if this was zero,
then very all around and then and then like bra okay,
so you can cut away that that receiver hanging up

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is first of all, when they're looking at the phone,
they're leaving the receiver on the hook. And then because
they think it's like a cell phone, you dial the
number and pick it up. So then every time they
mess up there like restarted, restarted, you just lift the
receiver up and put it back on. They were even
confused by the dial top. Yeah. Yeah, Like their other

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videos are like they're like, what's the They're like, right,
are only using cell phone and they've never listened to
like rap albums from I mean the last ten. But
I think it's one of those things if you're not
quite connecting it experientially. That could just be like an
aesthetic choice or something. Yea, but yeah, it's calling it restarting.
And the way they got the zero, like bringing that

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all around, but the other ones they were just kind
of half move like the seven. I think it just
to go there, and then it's please look up these
videos because there are just so fucking hilarious and it's
like I said, it's innocent fun. As did they get
I didn't watch the whole video to the end. Do
they buy the end? Figure it out? They don't. They

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kept getting clues. He's like you you out of zero? Right,
and then they're really like rubbing their chains like no, no,
Like they were like like I don't know the cracking
a code for something. I was just dialing. Yeah. As
important as it is to learn all that you don't know,
it's even more fun to learn what other people don't

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know and laugh at them, you know. Well yeah, and
it's just I don't know why it really. I really
like rotary phones. I think there's something very I think
just the nostalgia of it reminds me of just simpler times. Yeah,
there's something like tactile and like nice. It's not great
an emergency no, like especially when you watch films like

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they're like movies that have the rotary phone in an
emergency suit, Like right, God, why am dialing internationally? Um? Alright,
let's talk about that celebrity naval cheese and being described.
I feel like maybe we shouldn't do it. I don't care,

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do it? You ready? Yeah? Alright? There is an exhibit
called Food Bigger Than the Plate, and it's described as
a show that quote brings together the politics and pleasure
of food to ask how the collective choices we make
can lead to a more sustainable, just and delicious food future. Now,
one exhibit um in this larger exhibit, or one of

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the pieces in it, is a thing called self made
five big blocks of cheese. And the thing about these
cheeses to the untrained, I don't look like five blocks
of cheese. No, these are made from the bacteria of
celebrities in the UK, from their belly buttons. Okay, and
those people are chef Heston Blumenthal, British rapper Professor Green

(22:27):
Sugs from Madness, the Great British Baking Shows, Ruby Tando
and Alex James, the former bassist of Blur. Uh. Interesting
collection yeah, for us, it's a who's who. Yeah, interesting
to get ruby and not like one of the house
so they got so Anyway, the guy from Blurry, I
guess he's a cheesemaker, so he was kind of like

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into this whole thing. So what they did was what
they did harnessing the power of microbiology. They had these
researchers were collecting the bacteria from these celebrities noses, armpits,
and naval area they're belly button uh, and then from
there they use a sample to make a starter culture.
Remember we're talking about starters sss mothers. So now they

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make a starter culture with this bacteria that they then
combined with the milk or whatever and let that rock
and then you got your cheese. Um. And so it
wasn't really the point to be like, oh, it's so delicious,
but I think just to show people. I think a
lot of the people who are behind it from the
research side, is that people have this sort of negative
idea of bacteria, that all bacteria is bad. And it

(23:28):
was sort of like no, like, their bacteria is responsible
for a lot of things that are actually delicious, including
this blur basis cheddar you're chewing on right now. So, yeah,
here's the thing. I would probably try it. I'll try Yeah,
I would try it, but like and knowing that it's
just like the bacteria which then is used to create
a culture. Yeah. I I don't know what I thought

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it was, but it's much if you heard the words
navel cheese, and we're not talking about rations that are
given out to say brains, you know what I mean.
You're just thinking of massive accumulation of dead skinner to
sweat and then turn into a block that you slice
and then eat deliciously. Why what would you eat? A

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jacket doesn't bother me. I would probably try Ruby from
the Great British Baking Shows whatever she's she produced, Yes,
because she is the only person who's who I'm vaguely
familiar with what she does. So I mean I feel

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like I can trust her navel uh nose, so inside
their nose. That's interesting. Yeah, So it's it's more than
I guess, it's really more than just your belly button.
I mean, it's not in bo your belly button and
now turn into a cheese. I mean, because you're even
with me when she is, I like, stinky fu. I
want to I want to eat a fucking petty zu

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like hurt me. Also, like you know, like when you
think about where that bacteria comes from, anyway, where does it?
We don't know, Like bacteria is tiny. If let's just say,
like you just buy some like whatever Sargento or something like,
you don't know where that like the original Like I'm sure, look,

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if you're cheesemongers, please tell us what the origins of
cheese bacteria are, because we're a show where we admit
we don't know a fucking thing. True, So if led
my mentions because thank you to all the coffee gang
that came out when we were doing and ground versus
electric ground. Electric ground burns the beans, guys, whereas hand
ground it like just kind of grinds them up. No

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heat transfer, the oil is still there. For the few
people who are like very polite about it, they're like, look,
if you're not if you don't have a palette for
like really your cove, like it really doesn't matter. But
if you're dealing with morrisidic like nicer ship, then you
might like that. But I get the zen part to
a lot of people said, it's the zen aspect of

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thirty Revolutions every morning like they're poor over so that's
a d and thirty like turns around the thing to
get one pour over is worth of coffee. So they're
grinding the ship out of that. That's a good has
a lot of work that I do not have the
calmness of mine. And it wasn't until I was rolling

(26:21):
a blunt over the weekend that I realized, oh right,
I don't like pre roll ship. I like to do
it myself because there's a meditative aspect. YE had a
pursuing precision roll and get in the nice shape to
it and steals so you know what to the handground gang,
I salute you, but it's not for me because I
don't know enough about coffee. Alright, we're gonna take a
quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,

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and it's time for Miles to explain the trade wars.
I do not well, I mean, I don't get it.
There's there isn't I mean. Okay, So China announced sixty
billion dollars in new tariffs on US goods, you know,
retaliatory tariffs because Trump uped him last week. That's a

(27:15):
big figure number. And because of that, through the US
markets off the dal like lost like six hundred points,
just like that. Um, And most people are like, what
the fuck is who is this helping? Exactly because all
the time, if you believe the President, he's out here saying, oh,
you're gonna love it China, China has given us billions
of dollars directly to our pockets. We're getting so much

(27:35):
money off this deal, you're gonna love it. So it
seems fake, well right, because that's that wasn't Trump. That
was Myles doing a Trump impressure thank you. Yes, oh
see I thought he was here. Yeah. No, It's just
gets confusing sometimes, that's how good. So when you look
at the actual way the tariffs work, you know, like
this idea that somehow he's just saying like, China cut

(27:57):
me a check for fifty billion dollars and they were like, okay,
that's the way he's describing it. But really the tariffs
are placed on the goods that are imported from China,
even goods that are made by United States companies that
are manufacturing over there. That just means that the it's
the importers who have to pay the money on that,
not China there, you know. If so, it's if it's

(28:17):
Costco and you want your chicken bakes, they're gonna be like,
oh my man, these are from you know whatever, I'll
probably come from China. They're saying, well, this is the
tax COSTCO has to pay to bring this into the country,
not not the check the Chinese government saying, oh, we'll
give you this money to get our goods into your markets.
That's what the importers are paying. And then those taxes
are like that that markup on the goods eventually trickles

(28:39):
down to the consumer because they raised the prices to
offset the taxes they have to pay to bring in
the goods into the market. For example, I try to
buy a new sink recently, and I've found like some
you know, like off brand ship. You know. I spent
a lot of money because it looked good. It was
coming from China. On one day they said it was
one price. When I came in there, it's like gone
up thirty percent. And I said, yo, I just to you,

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And They're like, the fucking tariffs we have to pay
to bring it in. And I'm like hitting our own
miles in the pocket, right in the pocket. So I'm
now I'm bathing out of a bucket because you're bathed
in the sink? Yeah, what do you mean? It's very
like movie? Do you that sink to bathe in? Yeah? Yeah,
you mean the bathtub? Yeah, I don't know. I was

(29:21):
raised calling that the giant sink. Yeah yeah. And then
that's the face washing, flash it up and then you
rest your head in that little hoop. But anyway, so
so again, for for people to even believe that this

(29:43):
is somehow meaning that China's cutting America check is absurd, preposterous, mendacious,
and his terrible is not true. That's just how he's
spinning it to get people to believe that this is
something good. And when you look at who it's hitting,
it's hitting consumers and especially rural areas fucking hard, which
brings me more to kind of why I'm talking about
the trade wars ship is because it's hitting the his

(30:06):
voting block of rural voters very very hard. And when
you sort of look at how how sort of loyal
they are as Trump voters to this president. His you know,
his approval ratings are always positive, especially in rural rural areas,
and you look at the policies he's enacting, they are
like existential threats to these areas, um and so like
for okay, so when we look at even soybean farmers, right,

(30:29):
a lot of their exports are going to China, but
that I want to put because China is like, oh
you want to you wanna bang in some trade wars.
How want to cut you off? We're not exporting, We're
not importing anymore of your your agricultural goods. Um. And
then also even things like I mean, so that has
had a knock on effect. There's like record bankruptcy, farm
bankruptcy is right now, and all the export numbers are

(30:50):
just plummeting for these farmers. So then Trump is trying
to offset that damage that he's done with the trade
wars by now act by floating this another their proposal
to get fifteen billion dollars in subsidies to help the
farmers who were struggling. Right, So it's like, you created
this fucking problem that the consumers are even paying for
through these higher prices on consumer goods, and then now

(31:12):
the taxpayer is going to pay the fifteen billion dollar
subsidy bill that's going to help farmers based on your
own part, Like it's just we're self owning constantly. Uh,
and it's just this really, really terrible cycle. I mean
it sort of ties back to what we learned about
Trump last week when The New York Times got access
to those ten consecutive years of tax returns, that he

(31:37):
was really good at the politics of it, of making
a big splash and getting his name out there and
convincing people using his pr strategy of just flooding the zone. Uh,
that he's a rich person. Well, but he was historically
bad actually having any effect on markets or understand ding

(32:00):
of market economy. Uh, you know, the his understanding of
this that you would just you know, put the money on,
like put the money there and it would go like
we would start getting the money. Just fundamentally misunderstands like
how the economy works. But it seems like maybe he's
always had that misunderstanding. I think he always has, right,

(32:23):
I mean, because he lost more money than anyone, like
any business part. He's the worst business person in the world.
And even when Gary Cohen was running with like on
the working with him, he was like, what the fund
is This guy doesn't even understand like the stock market.
It's like, yo, I gotta go, bro, I'm trying to
I'm trying to rape and pillage the earth with my
corporato and you're not doing it right. Yeah. Like the

(32:46):
other thing too, is these rural areas. Again, like I say,
there are so many things that are happening right now,
especially like a lot of rural communities are contracting because
there's a lot of outmigration and a lot of automation
and these other things have just caused, uh, these industries
to shrink. And there's been no viable, like economic plan
B for these areas. So they're just slowly, slowly withering away.

(33:08):
And yet those voters are becoming very like are amongst
his more vocal supporters, and they're the people who buy
into this ship like oh, it's immigrants who are using
up all the federal aid culture, yeah, or it's they're
the reason why like this farming community is dying, or
my area is not prospering. And again, just look at
all the policies, right, even the tax cut that Trump enacted.

(33:30):
A lot of people like, oh yeah, hell yeah, this
is great, great for everybody, But the Agricultural Department recently
had a bunch of economists leave because they're like, we
feel like we're being punished for actually analyzing the policies,
and you're getting mad because we're saying they're doing damage
to the economy. Like there was an up, like a
just a walk out basically of like the thinkers of
the Agricultural Department. Anyway, those same economists, they were saying, like, look,

(33:55):
which is one of the reasons why they got uh
they were sort of pressured to leave or just more
you know, we're on the receiving end of their anger.
Was showing that when it came to those tax reductions,
most of those benefits went to the richest ten percent
of farms, and when most of the poor farmers are
actually struggling, they saw a slight increase in their taxes.
So even then you're looking like, yo, that doesn't help me. Okay,

(34:16):
what about these other things, like when you talk about
all the safety net programs that Trump is trying to slash,
like fighting back against Medicare, Medicaid expansion, and things like that,
those are programs that rural communities rely very heavily on,
and like eighty five of the top hundred counties who
receive food stamps are in rural areas, so they are
the recipients of this aid that they've so desperately need,

(34:36):
but are buying up this narrative that Messi's brown peoples,
he's welfware, welfare quacks. It's a combination of so many things, right.
It's like, first of all, he's selling this idea of
like the American dream and that he's done it and
that he's a quote self made billionaire or whatever. And
then that kind of you tell these people like, hey,
you can be like me, even though I'm actively making

(34:57):
it so that you will never be quote like me,
even though I'm not even that successful whatever. Um So
it's like that, and then it's like that's like the
carrot and then the stick is like, oh but you
know these brown people are you know, fucking you over? Um?
And uh really it's me the one who's woking you over,
like I said, because you will never be able to
be like me. Um. So it's kind of it's just

(35:18):
like it's this poisonous fucking cycle that's just getting worse
every day. But it's like the precisely that's sort of
like late stage capitalism thing where people are like I
think this is going fine, and I'm not actually Look,
I'm actually completely unaware that corporate entities are at the
levels of power at every level of government, and everything

(35:39):
is done to either privatize or take away these safety
net programs to essentially create more profits for the private
sector and create more capital. Who who would have predicted
that somebody who ran a Ponzi scheme of the university
that like scammed pour people out of money, would by
promising them the American Dream would be a bad president

(36:03):
would be bad at this sort of thing. Well, and
it's interesting because now you know, eventually, like we always
talk about how reality will end up at their doorstep
where you realize, oh, like I'm totally fucked now. But
at that point, it's gonna be too late for everybody
to get these people to realize like what's actually happening.
But it's interesting when you look at there was a
focus group that was happening in Sioux City, Iowa of

(36:25):
Obama Trump voters. People who voted for Obama then Trump,
like all but one of the people in this focus
group said they would have if they were over they
would have voted for Hillary. But then on top of it,
they were pointing to things that were policy points, like
Elizabeth Warrener Bernie Sanders type policies that they really liked.
But when they were saying, like if they were asked
about the Democrats who were talking about it, they were

(36:47):
like put off a little bit. But they were pointing
very very progressive things like why aren't we taxing big banks,
like and they're making money off of us? Or eight
out of the eleven people that were in this group,
we're saying like they knew somebody or they themselves are
struggling with debt or student debt and it was having
a very negative impact. There's something we need debt relief
in these in these areas. So it's it's one of

(37:09):
those things where I mean, the master manipulator Trump could
come in and get these voters to be like, hey,
I want to do some about student debt or whatever,
you know, and like we we saw how you know,
he was such a champion for the people as he
took office. Um, but also like a way you know,
but they're we're starting to see those those needs become
come to the forefront of a lot of these voters priorities. UM.

(37:30):
So you know, it's interesting to watch that evolve. But
do they have any specific complaints about Elizabeth Warren and
Bernie Sanders, or they're just like, we just don't like her. Last,
is that what they think? They're just like, oh, I
don't like They just well some didn't know any like
the only people they had heard of that were even
running were Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren. And
then from there they just sort of had that partisan thing.

(37:52):
I don't think that no one was actually quite putting
their finger on it. They didn't just weren't feeling it
because it was coming from a Democrat, although they're describing
the polo sees of a lot of the candidates. That's crazy. Yeah.
And then now, how much does partisanship? I mean, obviously
partisan politics has played a huge role, but I wonder
at what point do people begin to just take the
policies for what they are and say, like, I would

(38:12):
actually benefit directly from that, and that doesn't make me
cock or whatever your derogatory term of choice. Well, you
know the yeah, yeah, yeah, Well should we talk more
about people on the right just getting hoodwinked? All right?

(38:33):
So there was this on a smaller scale, basically the
same thing. On a smaller scale. There was a go
fund me to build the wall. Uh, and it was
you know, it was a big deal at the time.
It was when you know, obstruction as Democrats were blocking
Trump from being able to build his wall and save
America when there was a giant caravan coming to take

(38:57):
our kids away? Are you reading one of my old tweets? Um?
And it turns out that this thing that was, you know,
basically exploiting what was already a lie meant to exploit
people's highly agitated and emotional state, was totally legitimate and uh,

(39:18):
we should all be investing money in it. I mean,
they raised twenty million dollars damn in this around December
when the thing launched, and everyone's like, oh my god,
so how are their financials looking on that project? Look?
First up, I just want to say this had to
me look like bullshit from the beginning. And I think
most people who weren't straight up trump as You're like, yeah,
you're gonna give your money to some private company who's

(39:38):
gonna build on federal land. Yeah. And by the way,
the left falls for bullshit like this time. So I
don't want to make it seem like idiots, especially. All
I'm saying is I'm the smartest motherfucker ever I saw him,
and I also I'm waiting for my gift because I
did donate at the one level I want to. I

(40:02):
just scratched my name in one of the bricks, but
you have to scratched the ground breaking. But anyway, but
it had all the things that would draw in a
lot of gullible conservatives who were so heavily invested in
this idea of the wall, like you had, like the
dimensions of it were an appeal to the rights, love
of xenophobia. You had the pone the fucking libs who

(40:25):
said the wall couldn't or shouldn't be built. Now you're like, oh, yeah,
I'm putting money so it gets built. Fucking guy. And
then notable board members like Steve Bannon, Eric Blackwater, Prints
Sheriff Clark, Chris Kobak, and even Kurt Shilling. So it
had everybody and the man behind it, right is this
triple amputee war veteran by the name of Brian cole Fage.

(40:48):
And again just looking at the stats, has no experience
in construction project of this side or even logistical projects
of this size. He has also been caught for cheating
people out of like donating to sham veterans charities that
are really just going to him. Yeah, but when you
read the opening paragraph of the build a Wall website,

(41:09):
you really understand why many of these people were taken in.
Let's let's just let's go through. My name is Brian
cole Page. I have a verified Blue check Facebook page
as a public figure, and I'm a purple Heart recipient,
triple amput veteran boom. I believe this person, right, I
have a verified page. Uh. Like a majority of those

(41:30):
American citizens who voted to elect President Donald J. Trump,
we voted for him to make America great again. Well,
he he capitalized the maga. President Trump's main campaign promise
was to build the wall. Were all castle, And as
he's followed through on just about every promise so far,

(41:51):
this wall project needs to be completed still. So he
starts out by saying, and as he's followed through on
just about every promise so far, wall project needs to
be completed still. Okay, literature, Okay, Well, now here's what
I'm gonna say. Yeah, I do feel like and as
we would think that, he would then say, the wall

(42:13):
has also been finished, right right? Okay? Oh that was
your impression of me being on your side? What I'm
gonna sir next, as a veteran who has given so
much three limbs, thank you for your service. I don't
begrudge him that at all. I feel deeply invested to

(42:35):
this nation to ensure future generations have everything we have today.
Too many Americans have been murdered by illegal aliens, and
too many illegals are taking advantage of the United States
taxpayers with no means of ever contributing to our society.
There's that myth, baby, it's them, Yeah, it's them. It's
them people, yeah, especially to the Recently The New York

(42:57):
Times has put out of really in depth study about
how illegal immigrants are not the cause of increased crime,
Like whatsoever? Illegal immigrants are like some of the most
law abiding people in our country. And even if it's
I mean, sadly the New York Times, so no conservatively
be like, yeah, okay, the failing, the failing New York
Times just pulled up some data that's been verified by

(43:18):
the lan from Okay, yeah, anyway, so right there it is.
He has a blue check Facebook page. I trust him enough, said, yeah, okay,
where do I somebody don't even say anything else, alarm bells,
no or anybody. Okay. But so anyway, when when they
raised that twenty million, even when you looked at the
go fund me thing the way it was described, he

(43:38):
said his quote, highly experienced team is highly confident that
we can complete significant segments of the wall in less
time and for less money than the federal government while
meeting or exceeding all required regulatory, engineering and environmental specifications.
That sounds highly suspicious. Yeah, I mean, that's there's so
many questions. It's just like, how how do you think that? Well? Right,

(44:02):
But even if you ask the next logical question is, okay,
so what parts are y'all? When people are asking specificalies
like oh, you know, I can't really say because the LIBS,
the A c L. You were going to just like
find out ruin everything, And it's like okay. And then
even it's like, oh, we're looking at parts in Arizona,
Like there are people in Arizona who pointed out even
in the on the right, they're like, but a lot
of this land is federally owned, so like how this

(44:26):
isn't private land or just building on So you're still
gonna like how Yeah, you would have to buy land
right to build on that lawfully. Yeah, unless like the
government is contracting with you. But but I don't think
they are not. I don't think people are like that,

(44:46):
you know. And yet he has not done it yet,
right as yet, as he has completed all of these
every promise so far, this wall project needs to be completed.
Still Still I love when people have finished still still,
it's great conversational. Um. So, yeah, we're in May. They
said they were going to probably break ground in April.

(45:07):
He went on the radio because they're like, hey, people
are getting ansty this thing happened in December. We haven't
heard anything. Oh yeah April, April, April. We're in May now, uh,
and like these reports are coming up to like, yeah,
what happened here? My man? Where is he? I wonder?
I don't know. I think he's laughing his ass off
with twenty million dollars. It still insists that it's gonna happen.

(45:28):
It's gonna happen. But you know, I mean it builds
on a myth that I grew up with, like as
a person who can remember like part of the Cold War,
that anything that has like bureaucracy involved. So the government,
anything that's government based is going to be completely inherently inefficient.

(45:49):
And if you just give the money to private sector people,
they're going to be able to do it really easily.
And I've like very recently, like within the past ten years,
only started like kind of getting under the skin of
that myth and realizing, oh, that's actually not true. Like
a lot of really valuable works of progress have come
out of government programs, like more than have come out

(46:12):
of the private sector. So um like bladlining, but it right,
exactly my favorite one. You brought up my favorite. But
I guess you know, there's also just an example of
how desperate a lot of Trump voters are in general,
Like they're chasing this like all sparkly, pearly white future
by any means, and I guess that even means hitching

(46:33):
your wagon to this fantasy of this this wall. Well,
it's just it's such a it's such a natural like
continuation of of what got people even voting for Trump
in the first place, which is just like vague pronouncements
of like I'm going to make things better and like
mothering and then nothing right and people just being like well,

(46:55):
I'll get on board with that, because you're going to
make America great again and you're gonna build a wall
and whatever. So build the wall, build a bear. I
do wonder if he's going to continue to be able
to do that with like there being no results in election.
I don't know. That's would be a weird one. It's
going to be interesting that the wall ship's die. He

(47:15):
hasn't really talked about that in it. Yeah. I feel
like he's kind of let that simmeran in the back.
He's like, I can't really talk. I never forgot about
that one, hoping that it just disappears in the air. Yeah,
all right, we're gonna take another break and we'll be back.

(47:40):
And we're back and uh shit the Sixers. Oh I
thought you had an accident. Yeah, everyone's got to leave
the room until um tough weekend. Uh what happened for
the So. I think a lot of people who follow

(48:02):
sports probably watched Game seven of the Eastern Conference second
round to see who was going to go to the
Eastern Conference Finals and play Milwaukee. I've mentioned on the
show before, my dad is a coach for the Sixers.
He's on the bench. Uh, he's not starting sits on
the bench much shorter than Joe l Embiid, but not

(48:26):
as short as you think based on seeing him next
to the seven foot tall people all the time. Most people,
most people think my dad's short, short Napoleon, Um, he's
laid back and tall. But yeah, so this was a

(48:49):
terrible loss, and uh yeah, it's for people who for
the uninitiated or people who just don't give a funk
about it. At the NBA, what happened was very, very
heartbreaking to watch. I I'm not invested in the series whatsoever,
aside from just knowing the stress that Jack goes through
whenever the Sixers are playing on any given day. In
the posting, yeah, you have many rituals. You don't like

(49:11):
to watch games live. I do not need to watch.
So I started these playoffs. This is something that I
just started doing these playoffs. But they lost game one
of their first round series and played so badly that
I was like like literally depressed for like a day,
and so I started just not watching the games. I

(49:32):
haven't even told my family this, but it's kind of yeah. Yeah,
but like I don't know, I didn't want to be
like a shitty person to be around based on the
outcome of a game when I have like two kids,
you know, a three year old and a one year old,
Like that's not fair to them. So anyways, I started

(49:53):
just checking the score after the game was over, like
just doing something tunnel vision during the games, and uh,
and then if they won, I would watch the replay,
and if they lost, I would not put myself through
the bullshit. And anyways, as a lot to say, I
decided Sunday was a game to watch live. Uh tough,

(50:15):
tough one. It's actually not. I'm glad I watched it live,
even though the ending was a complete gut punch because
Dagger might be the last time we get to see
these guys play together because the Sixers are I don't
want to get into lakes specifics of players, but anyways,
it's just a it's probably the closest I've been to

(50:38):
a big Zeitgeist team moment. And uh, yeah, I can't
really talk knowledgely about it because well, we'll say this.
It was game seven tall okay, just really laid back,
really cool. Uh, it was Game seven winner goes to

(50:58):
the Eastern Conference Finals, Tide game seconds left and you're like,
this might go to overtime and Kawhi Leonard he I
think it was the very first game seven buzzer beater
uh in the postseason, right, I think I think it
has that distinction. It's one of the first game seven
buzzer beaters. I might be wrong in fact check me
on that probably the first that bounced five times on

(51:21):
the rim before going in. And it was a very
tense moment because oh damn, like this is a good game,
and I was like, yeah, maybe Jacks, I don't know
if he's watching, and then I saw the shot. It
was it was like bouncing for like felt like minutes. Yeah, yeah,
enough that even like Joel Embid went out of bounds,
he had time to like reset his feet and then
Peter come back in is it going in? And it does?

(51:46):
And look if you don't, we'll just get We'll cut
to the night for the fun part, okay, because obviously
it was a moment where everyone was like in disbelief,
they can't believe he's done it. But the commentary from
the Korean broadcast is by far one of the most
entered jetting versions, and even if you didn't see it,
you can tell from their voices what's happening. So just
envisioned and in bounce play a shot thrown up and

(52:07):
it's bouncing, bouncing, bouncing, bouncing. The buzzer goes off and
then it drops. So listen to the Korean commentary. Ind

(52:34):
so take that elation and flip flip that it's your
Let's talk about somebody else who had a bad Sunday.
Let's talk about people who Okay, so we're gonna do
some spoilers here, Yeah, we're talking. Look, if you're gonna
thrown spoilers coming, uh, this is your warning. I'll give
you time. If you're exercising, someone gets your thing, skip it, posit, whatever.

(52:58):
But if you're ready to go in, it's time to
go in five four three two all right, And we're
gonna talk about somebody who had a bad Sunday also,
and that's anybody who named their daughter Kalisi. Uh. In
two thousand, eighteen, there five and sixties such people in
America from the Social Security from Social Security Uh Kalisi

(53:23):
went off in in not a good way. Uh yeah, well,
I guess first let's just talk about the names, because
I think it's an interesting story. Apparently this has been
a trend that has been like upwardly trending since two
thousand fourteen. Steady Game of Thrones character names George or
Martin is good at making up fake names. Yeah, fantastic.
The highest one is Aria, but they note that that

(53:45):
is a name used internationally, so that's not that doesn't
count two, right, Like there, I've known people named Area
before that, and yeah, right, so then it's the next
most popular name is Kalis five hundred sixty children. That
is a fucking weird name. That is a weird name.
It's a pretty name, like those are. I think those
are pretty combinations, pretty sounds. You know why I hear

(54:05):
in racky in my mind? Yeah you don't. I don't
think like a Western or Western rosie version of like
kalisils you don't like that, Um but I yeah, it's
just a lot of chips to put on a character
in a show that is not complete. That's what I
was just gonna say, Like, if you're going to name

(54:27):
your kid after somebody in a show, wait until the
show is over. You don't know. And these people aggressively
did not know you, No, they did not know. Just
a few other ones. Yarro was the next most popular,
and I like that four, then Leanna then denies. There's
a pretty steep fall of Leona has three in the nineteen.
Then the next closest one is Denarius with a hundred
sixty three denaries. I can I can see that more

(54:50):
than you see if I can see Denarius more than Yeah,
Denari sounds like kind of like a fly name. And
also because Kalisi is not her name, it's queen. So
to me, I'm like, I don't, I don't know. To me,
that's not after a made up character like this is
my son, King Cooper. It's like it's like naming your

(55:11):
son like King of the North or something that's very
well a couple of people. I'm just going down to
the some of the lesser names. Someone named their kid
Benjin yea be. Yeah, that's not a good name, no
matter how you look at that, unless you have unless
like your mother's name is Jennifer and your father's name
is ben Ben. I don't know. It sounds like the

(55:31):
most the very most egotistical naming you could do that. Well,
you know, she didn't want Junior, right, so we did
ben Jen. And nobody uses our celeb like couple of mans.
So we're going to try and get that way of
started by naming them Ben Jen my name is Ben McCaffrey.
She's Jennifer Saunders. I think there's almost from absolutely fabulous.

(55:53):
I think there's only some of these names that you
can guarantee are a result of Game of Thrones, or
at least that the parents can't then come in and
be like no, no, no, it's a it's a family name,
or it's you know, we decided to spell Caitlin Catlin
because you know, he's already something white people do all

(56:13):
the time, which is like, take an Irish name and yeah, yeah.
I think Calisi is when you just can't get you're
from right that I feel like you can't Tyrian, how
many tis so Jora? Yeah is kind of specific. Yeah,

(56:36):
but anyway, I guess. Look, so now let's just get
what happened in the show. So we like what we saw,
I don't let's go around. I think the reaction has
been extremely like negative in a way that I'm not
on board. But so I'm like annoyed by the reaction
to the episode, like because I think people are confusing

(57:00):
an unpleasant turn of events in a show that specializes
in those with being bad writing, like people are mad.
Like I saw a tweet where somebody was like, wait,
so I refused to believe the writing is so bad
that they let Searcy die in the arms of a
loved one after all that build up, and it's like,

(57:20):
I don't think that's bad writing. That's like giving the
characters not necessarily the deaths they deserved, and like we've
found that deserve is not what like you don't get
what you deserve in the Game of Thrones universe. And
like the more they got away from that and the
more it was like about like creating these heroic arcs,

(57:40):
the less I was on board with the show. So
the fact that they then took a character that people
were you know, standing and like rooting for and you know,
had her just kind of go insane. Uh. I like
that they went dark with it. Uh. You know, then
we can talk about like whether it was earned or not.

(58:03):
And I know there's a lot of controversy on that.
How do you feel killing I? Um, how do you feel?
Thanks much for asking? Um, there's tissues right there, Oh,
thank you, there really are. I feel like people I
am trying to not cry. I feel like people that
were like oh, Danny was never like I can't believe

(58:25):
that she is doing this. First of all, I'm like,
have you not been watching the damn show's been burning people.
She's been burning people up from the get go. And
here's the other thing, like I do agree, I don't.
I don't know, all right, So people that say that
there's no there's no reason that she should be the
mad Queen, I feel like I haven't been watching the

(58:47):
show because she has been someone who is rageful and
angry and burns her enemies. It's just that she's always
been right, and we've always agreed with her up until
this point. So she, yes, did she creates like miles
and miles long road filled with the crucified corpses of slavers, Yes,
but we agreed with her Slavers and we agreed with

(59:09):
her Um and then up until this point she has
been Basically she's still kind of right, and that people
are betraying her. Arris betrayed her, um John essentially betrayed her.
She feels completely alone, and she still feels that she
is the rightful ruler. And I feel like, even in

(59:30):
the world of Game of Thrones, a person that's like
I Am the Destined Ruler is kind of fucked up,
and I think you can still like her because she
up until this point. You can still say, oh, well,
Danny was my favorite character. She wasn't my favorite character.
I didn't really like her that much, but you can say, oh,
I liked because she was very headstrong, because she um,
I liked that she was rachedful, and I liked that

(59:51):
she kind of sucked people over with her dragons. Fine, um,
I just I feel like I totally agree that people
are angry that she did something that they didn't like
and they're like, that's bad writing. And when they're like, oh,
Sarcy didn't deserve to die, uh, you know, just by
being crushed to death by Rubbel or whatever. But I'm like, dude,

(01:00:14):
the issue that I had with the deaths that happened
in the Battle of winter Fell and coming up with it,
they were a little too right early. Oh, this person
dies finally after achieving um redemption. How lucky for them.
And I feel like if The Wire had come out
during a time when we're on Twitter, people would have
been like, oh, I can't believe spoilers for the Wire

(01:00:35):
that like Omar gets killed by just a kid in
a in a convenience store. But it's like, honestly, if
this episode, I in the most recent episode, if Aria
had died, I would have screamed for days and days
and days. But if she had just been killed by
like a falling rock, I would have been like, well,
that's what happens. That's what happens. Um So told you

(01:00:58):
get yours out of there. He did. He said I'm
about to die here. And I will say that fucking
fight was that ship that was beautiful? The thing I guess,
just to sort of complete the thoughts about what happened.
I think with the show, right, Denis felt like a
righteous character because she was always fucking up people who
deserved it right, and you're like, yes, I think people

(01:01:21):
began to see that as like a certain value system
she had, like oh, yeah, she just does away with
evil rather than she uses fire as like an arbitration
tool unless she gets down. And then when it comes
to this thing, yeah, it's very jarring because I think
people put a lot of it like, oh, this person
is just and like maybe maybe aggressive, but ultimately there
they always do right. And I think for that turn,

(01:01:41):
I think almost made people they lost their hero, and
I think it was very jarring. I was just like, look,
she's been doing this. Yeah, she doesn't really show mercy
all the time to her enemies, and I get it.
I think that maybe the writing was a little wonky
and that they could have presented the the her evolution
towards going there, Like if if her second dragon got

(01:02:03):
killed at the top of this episode, I would have
been like, oh, now we can we can kind of
see this progression go on. But other than that, I'm
not I'm not really upset because also after the winnerful Ship,
I'm kind of like, I thought everyone should have died. Okay,
that was my take. But Clickain Bowl made everything right
for it because I didn't care. I was like, fine, whatever,
Seracy gets crushed, all good, you're on, you know, and

(01:02:24):
all that fantastic. But click Gain Bowl had some of
the best fucking moments, like Certacy just tiptoeing out of
the web when what's the name Kurn was hious when
he gets his dome just fucking rattled, disrespectful like he
had yeah, just first on the wall and then somehow
he threw his ass so hard when his head hit

(01:02:46):
it was like a rotten pumpkin or November. So that
was amazing. And then to see Sarasy be like, oh,
I'm just gonna scoot on out of here. And I
was talking with Dan that shot of the dragon coming
by blowing the fire and they were just so sucked
in on each other like oh this is clean bowl baby. Yeah.
Um it was so it was so good. It was
just so fucking great. And even when the hound is

(01:03:09):
that last minute, just like my fucking died. Yeah, I
loved it. I loved it. I loved that part. Yeah,
it's the thing that you keep expecting characters and like
slasher movies to say that they never say straight through
this section every time, just eating up these stabs and

(01:03:31):
like in the neck like thirty times. That feeling too,
like that like of them fighting, well the world is
kind of crumbling around them. It had kind of this
like gothic feel to it, which is really cool. And
I think I'm stealing this from someone that someone compared
it to blood Borne Um, which I don't know if
played that game. Yeah, it just had that kind of
like weird, kind of like dark like Victorian feel to it.

(01:03:55):
I don't know. It's really interesting, like very end this shrike,
I thought the whole thing, with the whole end of
the you know, I guess it was like almost a
half hour forty five minutes where she's flying around just
destroying the city was like really atmospherically like very cool,
like when you know, from a visual standpoint, I thought
it was cool, and from a like mood perspective, it

(01:04:17):
was just like a weird, eerie way for it to
just be happening in like broad daylight and she's just
like methodically going like that. There was something very like
nihilist and just funked up about about that, but also
like kind of beautiful. Um and you you there, there's
been these moments in the show where somebody feels a

(01:04:37):
dragon like go overhead or like has a a shadow
go over them, and they like look up and they're
just like so inspired and terrifying. Like this kind of
retrospectively made me like, uh, right, dragon dragon right, because yeah,
somebody on the Ringer recap was pointing out that this
is how all the Great Wars have ended up to

(01:04:59):
this point point. It's like they just kill everybody with
a dragon, and right, and that's that's ball game. And
I also want to say, like, I don't I don't
begrudge people not being totally on board with this episode.
I think a good way to distinguish it is like
if you would have been mad during the Red Wedding,
if you would have been like, ah, this is bullshit,

(01:05:20):
you know, then I don't know that's what them throwing,
That's what Game of thrown, or when the mountain killed
your boy. This is this is one of those things.
It's like anything right. This show has so many of
these different elements and themes that there's no way to
objectively be like that was a good episode because everyone
brings their own ship into it, especially with this one,
like the audience has now become the adjudicator of a

(01:05:42):
lot of these characters fates. Or they're like, well, Serci's
gonna have to die like this, this is gonna have
to happen like this, or I'm fucking mad, you know
what I mean? I get you know, I'm I'm a
fan of ship too, and I've been disappointed by endings.
But as I rollder, I'm like, yeah, I have there's
too much other ship going on in the world from
me to get locked in on that. But I could
tell that that was sort of what's happening is that
everyone is bringing their own versions of how it needs

(01:06:03):
to end for them, and when it when it runs
counter to that, it's very upsetting because you get so
invested in these characters and like a lot of times
I was enduring Sarcey's ship because I'm like, well, she's
gonna get hers best believe that, so I don't have
to feel like but when you get it, you're going
to get it. And I think for her to just
suddenly have this like weird come to Jesus moments you're
so scared, right and then just like crushed, I think

(01:06:24):
most people probably wanted to see her like like you know,
drawn and quarter or something, right. I And and here
the show is by no means perfect, and I have
a lot I have issues with the show. For sure.
There are things that I'm like, really don't like mad
slave armies. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, oh, cool, brown people
are going to die for these people that we know
are racist. Cool cool um or you know, like the

(01:06:47):
stuff with Santa saying the thing about that rape was
a character building that was like not great, But like
the issues that I feel like a lot of people
are having with this episode. I'm like, I don't know,
I just don't agree, but I do think maybe they
could have. I mean, we're seeing that they should maybe

(01:07:07):
should have like hit the whole like Danny's going crazy
thing a little harder throughout the season. That being said,
I was fine with it. Yeah. My only complaint would
be that they like had had it turn on whether
John fucked her or not, like whether you cannot tell
me that Dick is that good? He's so boring. So
I feel like he was always like he'd probably squinting

(01:07:29):
during six Oh good, my queen. Yeah. I feel like
he'd constantly be like is this good, like like are
you there yet? All right, let me know because I'm okay,
never mind and all that just because he didn't want
to kiss his mouth, kiss his aunt right seriously, Like
the fact that she was like, then it will be

(01:07:50):
fear off of that felt a little. I don't know,
like I would have liked it better if we didn't
have that explicit like explanation or that explicit explicit like
turning point. But I don't know. We'll see, you know,
we got one more, yeah, and then we will be freed. Yeah,
And I think let's I think it's fine to like
go on and have your quick, quick, like knee jerk observation,

(01:08:13):
but I feel like we should give the give shows
like a little bit of time to think in like yeah,
but they are also moments I see it from the writing.
I'm like, yo, y'all could have been doing this a
lot sore and this didn't have to because it's suddenly
turned into like the action is coming so quick and
they're having to jam so much ship that they can't.
They did so much nuanced storytelling in the prior seasons

(01:08:35):
that like when you got to moments, you're like, damn,
I can add up all this other ship I saw
on the way here, and this one's sort of like, no,
we got it. Hey, come on, man, we only got
this room for another two hours. Feel that you can
feel that like there are x many episodes left. With
every episode, it feels very like, oh, only uh, should
we have one left? Right? Okay? Fucking fuck it? Um,

(01:08:59):
She'll just bring the don't it. Yeah. I mean this
reminds me of the time when I found out The
Night King was bad. Fuck you gotta be kidding me,
so chill kind of little words. Yeah, he had more
cute crop tops and had cute crowns on and that
little baby he made all cute and stuff. All right, Well, Kelly,

(01:09:23):
it has been such a pleasure having you. Where can
people find you listen to you? Well, thank you so
much for having me. Guys, you know people normally don't
do that. Really, that's very polite. You know what you
You're an all star and the best. Um. You can
find me on social media at Kelly Nugi that's k
E L L Y and U G E E U.

(01:09:44):
You can listen to me on my podcast I have
too podcasts teen Creeps where we talk about why pulp
fiction from the eighties and nineties and same day shipping
where I ship every one with everyone, uh that I
can uh and usually do nasty ships. And I you
have the l Ray Network. Our show just came out
It is l re Nation where we talked about all
things pop culture. So where do you get the L

(01:10:06):
Ray Network? Cable? Uh? So it would be Cox Communications,
Charter and Spectrum and Direct TV. Word, that's awesome. Is
there a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? Yeah, there is this. Okay,
so there's this tweet. I don't know if you guys
have seen it. It says, Okay, try to into it.
The tweet before this one you cannot, And it is

(01:10:29):
a retweet Zilia Banks saying impossible Burgers. And then if
you click on it, it is a thread that says, no,
pro life is not about promoting abortion like a belly
ring and starving weird deep state liberals of research material.
Abortion is only promoted as a human rights so they
can get their hands on embryos and fetuses to experiment.
I am extremely pro life for this reason. Second one,

(01:10:50):
funny how gays and and then d dot k e
s I'm assuming the slur fight most for abortion rights
and have no clue what they're actually supporting. You're supporting
a culture that glamorizes abortion as a human right in
order to can dr clandestine experiments and do weird cloning
and grow organs like impossible burgers. What the fuck? So

(01:11:10):
that was the Zalia Banks um, But yeah, like if
you just the impossible Burgers, You're like, I have no
idea where that could come from. Guys you're reading, You're like,
wait what and it's like a ruler coaster, like what
are you talking about? Damn? That's why we beyond people

(01:11:31):
find you. You can find enjoy boy. You can find
me and follow me at miles of gray g r
A y. You know some of y'all even tagged me,
but then spell my name wrong in a K A S.
It's not e y, I'm not gray worm. Okay, to
do it with the gray perm Okay. Some tweets I like.
First is from a listener at Sedwig c E d
w I G who taped the home girl doing the

(01:11:52):
Wedge Challenge eating the motherfucking wedge salad like a fucking
just a slice of pizza. Okay, she used to hand ends.
I want to challenge the next Yes, someone else one
hand like apple style whatever it is, I want to see,
good job and I don't wanna it looks like a
nice white table restaurant. So shout out to you for

(01:12:12):
you know, just an up ending tradition. Yeah exactly. You know,
what if anything is that gang we're transgressor that's right
sot hashtag Wedge Challenge. Please pull up to the Wedge
Challenge or make ears at home. It's got to be cheap,
just by a head of iceberg lettuce and it could
be a two dollar thing. You have to go to
a fancy restaurant, So shout out to you at Sedwick, Sedwig.

(01:12:33):
A few tweets I like. One is from Kate Berlant. Okay,
so some of these sweets are gonna have some game
with thrown spoilers. So look, if you wanted to skip,
just skip because I got to do these because these
are funny. One is first Kate Berland at Cape Berland
watching the second to last EPP of Game of Thrones
right now, have never seen it? I like the dragon.
Also is this set in Europe? Um? And then a

(01:12:54):
few uh Nate for an all a different one not
a Game of Thrones. One here tweeted I'd rather be
a ver than someone who's never been on a podcast.
And finally this one is a sound what can I
play this one? Dan? Okay, so this is a very
good video clip, uh from I think it's from this person,
Lord Gaspy of how start at on fire gas be

(01:13:18):
And it's just this video clip. Commoners, nobles, they're all
just children, really. They won't obey you unless they fear
I am not here to be Queen of the ashes
destroying Okay, So yeah, those are my favorites. Tweet I

(01:13:40):
enjoyed blank patch, tweeted, twitched the first letters of two
words for your Star Wars name. I'll start nape grutt
and then sa stench frewert Uh. This is my favorite.
These really just sound like Star Wars and it's my favorite.
Is merr six a lot like first and stingo a

(01:14:05):
are uh park mammal? All right. You can find me
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that we talked about in today's episode, as well as

(01:14:27):
the song we ride out on miles. What's that going
to be today? This is from Ease Tumor or Eaves.
It's spelled y yes, So however you want to do it,
if you want to be more European about it. But
this is the artist eating and the track is called
Annoying and it's very it's a lot going on, you know,
avoid the noid uh if y'all remember that the dominoes.

(01:14:49):
Yet we always say on brand, shout out the Domino.
But yeah, this artist very experimental stuff. It's kind of
it's I don't know, I don't just listen to it.
This man is from Tennessee. I've weep so check it out.
Very interesting, awesome. The Daily Set You Guys, is a
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