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Speaker 1 (00:05):
And I got that from method Man. His method Man
was the king of rocking unorthodox headwear, like using a
paper towel as a headband, and shit, I thought that
was the coolest. Shit.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Paper towel is a headband pressed me so much.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Jo You would take like along like from a public
bathroom paper towel, like maybe like two and a half
feet long, and fold it over so it's like this
thick and then put that on like that, tie it up. Boom.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, MTV cribs and ODB antics kind of like maybe
being as trash as possible while living a luxurious life.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
It's like the best form of anything as a kid.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Uh yeah, it was like blank check that Disney movie,
Like that's that's what I thought being an adult would
be like if you have isn't there a.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Scene where a grown woman kisses that young boy?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Probably it's probably problematic.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I saw it as like an eight year old and
then locked it in as like an aspirational goal and
then and and then never saw it again.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
So I should date more grown women, not that.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
You know what, or just like I remember that movie
had me thinking like literally, if you found a blank check,
it's over for the person who had the check. You
know what I mean? Like that you could do like
three billion dollars, asshole, this fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
That'll be three billion, thank you. Yeah, and your ma
jet for the rest of you.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Like a blank check of a bank account that only
has like eleven dollars. Yeah, those people's banks accounts, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
You're like this, ooh, you fucked up. They're like you've overdrafted.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Oh damn, I'll put fifty one hundred million dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
All right, I'll bring it down three million. No, No,
I could get forty two cents. Basically, That's where.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I learned all my financial literacy from. That's why I'm
such a financial genius.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Is that blank check? Like you just keep telling your wife, babe,
once I find one of those blank checks.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah? Were that and the uh Danny Boyle movie where
the kids find a big bag of money? Those are
my two financial plans.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Playing check or come upon bags of cash.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three forty one,
Episode four of der DAILY'SAI Guys Say production of iHeartRadio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
into America's cheric consciousness. It's Thursday, June sixth, twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Oh yeah, it's takes Day. You got two four? Oh yeah,
National Higher Education Day, National Gardening Exercise Day, Hey do
some gardening exercise? National drive in movie Day? Remember those
National Apple Sauce Cake Day. Never had that National Yo
Yo Day, National eyewear Day. And of course it's the
fucking what does it not? Eightieth Anniversary of the D

Day Invasion Normandy and World War Two? June sixth. You
know this is I was reading an interesting piece about
how after the Cold War ended like, we as Americans
went big on D Day to be like and this
is why we fight the like. There are good wars
still and look, obviously many people lost their lives fighting fascism.
That's a huge thing. But also it's interesting to see

how much we take these kinds of moments to be like.
And that's why we're the people that got to police
the war, because if not, it would be hi.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
We're the good guys by default. The next eight hundred years,
we're one tenth of the way through.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Who knows, maybe the next five it might, it might happen,
It might happen Quicker than you you can.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
You can realize we have a d Day anecdote in
one of the stories on Today's Duck. We'll see if
we get to it. Where's really too it's the goldfish
one anyways. Uh my name is Jack O'Brien aka lift
me up before you go go if they aren't swollen,
and then that's an no. No limph me up before

you go go and let me ogle them nodes. That
is courtesy of we'ren the wear Bear on the Discord
in reference to me getting hornie for miles of plump
lymph nodes.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
They're going down, Babe. You know that's right, Joy, I
should have enjoyed them while they lasted, although I'm still contested.
Oh I did, oh, I did draw me like one
of your French girls.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Also, I want to give credit the ninety nine poop
balloons aka Yesterday was a collaboration between you current do
that on television who I mentioned, but also.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Charlie's a the originally Charlie x Oh is that the
Toxic Celtics fan listen the Boosty's Discord service? Is it
Charlie Big? So that's you, you Big Celtics.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Never mind, I take it last credit, dude, A good one, bro.
We're thrilled. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by
my co mister Miles grat It's.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Miles Gray AKA, and I would wait six point eight
weeks to dress up to go trick or treat. I
don't get how you get six point eight weeks because
it's apposed to be seventeen. I don't get it. Don't
get don't get it, don't get I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Get this stupid shit.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Shout out peanut, Buddy Brown. Because I'm still I've had
people say I had my brother in law text me.
He's like, I was listening to the show. Here's my theory.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I need you.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
He's like, yeah, I need to shut the fuck up
about this before I lose all respect for you. But
he was also thinking, He's like, people constantly misremember the
bookend summer holidays, Memorial Day and Labor Day.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
That was my initial thuck.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
But my thing is, where the fuck are the sports
of July come into it? Wait?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Is maybe maybe Labor Day is six point eight weeks
from all hallo z.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
The days between Halloween and Labor Day. I don't I
don't know how any of this works, to be.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Honest, So how many days until Halloween.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah day, Sorry to jump in, but yeah, I just please,
Labor Day is the beginning of September and October. September
Halloween is the end of October, like two months essentially.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, weeks.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
So yeah, that's that. Ain't six point eight again?

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Six point eight?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's fucking nonsense.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
What the fall?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'm so sorry that I have to keep bringing this up.
But another theory dusted. You're wrong, mild, but I got
a date calculator. Look, everybody's just trying to make sense
of it.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
It's the paragraph in an eminem's press release that we
just can't make sense of.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Caitlin, Oh okay, I was wondering what this it's.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Fifty nine days?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, no, we don't. We just you jump right into
the deep end on this one. Unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, yeah, no, not buying it. A month and twenty
nine days still is not enough. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, while Miles is over there puzzling, just with clouds
of numbers swirling around his head like in a beautiful mind?
Does that happen in a beautiful mind? Or is that
like a false memory?

Speaker 4 (07:16):

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Do they do actual numbers around his head? Oh that's
a little that's just that feels a little stupid for that,
but even for that.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Movie corn of your movie then.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
You remember, yeah, yeah, exactly, we let him get away
with any anything back then.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Wait, it is, isn't it the one that has like
there's that meme with like the Confused Lady. But isn't
that like that's like a meme from like a Brazilian show,
Like there's like a you know, the meme where it's
like the white woman and there's like all these like
fucking geometric shapes around to.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Be like oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Anyway, math Lady. I think it's called math Lady.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
H Hey, we are thrilled, Miles to be joined in
our third seat by a very talented writer, stand up comedian,
podcast host of Oh Shit, Now I Get It, The
Bechdel Cast, which takes down the patriarch one movie at
a time.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
They all Jack, by the way, you're the only I
feel like no one ever refers to the Bechdel Cast
in that way. I know, it's like never, It's like
not on any I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
I just made that up at some point and I
was like, this is good. They're gonna want me to
keep bringing this up over and over like it's their
catchphrase that they came up with.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
I think at some point when we were like joining
the network, it was like, we need a tagline. Came
up with it, and that's I think I came up
with it. How dare you not?

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Okay? Okay, I am very good.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
But then we never used it again, like Jamie or
like and but you're like, this is it? This is
I'm gonna is it?

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Cut to crickets.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
You're walking down the street. I just drive by Durante
taking out the patriarchy one movie at a time, right, yeah, And.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
I'm like, you me, the fun is that, Caitlin, I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Know, just keep walking anyways. I just it's a good catphrase.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
I wrote it.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yea also happened to have a master's degree in film.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
You also, I don't like to mention it, but.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
You hate to mention that, And you're gonna now do
a couple of minutes on how I keep bringing that
up and you refuse to ever talk about it. Also,
the most anagrammable name in the English language, possibly.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
So when you know other people have numbers and mass
symbols floating around their head, I've got letters.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Of my name, don't.

Speaker 1 (10:00):

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Mm hmmm. Do you have any new ones? Yeah, no,
we've really depleted the options, I fear.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah. Now it's like breaking it down into like like
two regular words and then like two nonsensical words.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, yeah, yes exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
I'm gonna just see what else we got here.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, yeah, Now I'm trying to do one on the fly. Like,
there's definitely urinated is in there?

Speaker 1 (10:27):

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Have we done that before?

Speaker 4 (10:30):
There's definitely urine. One of one of the ones I've
come up with has urine, but amazing urinated.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Nature cat in lid uh huh in lid in neutral.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
There are new ones.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, details waiting to be discovered. Caitlin, it's wonderful to
have you back on the show.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
L net cat India.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's the new worldwide protocol for Yeah, it's a webe
web far Yeah yeah. All right, Well we're going to
get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
things that we're talking about today. We're going to talk
about the candidate from Missouri, Valentina Gomez, who keeps calling

everything in America weekend gay and recently got fired. Nope,
actually fired the company. Y yeah, fired, Yeah, just so
you know. Yeah, so we'll talk about just what the
Republican Party is doing with Pride months. We might even
get to we'll definitely get to Goldfish crackers, it being

a National D Day Day. Well, we got to get
to the goldfish crackers story because they have introduced spicy
pickle flavor for some reason. I don't think I've ever
had a spicy dill pickle in my life. I've had
spicy sweet pickles, but they have specified spicy dill pickle.

I don't think I'm either never had a spicy dill
pickle or I've had one and don't remember it. And
in many ways, that is the most devastating thing I
can say about a pickle.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Mm is that have you ever played? Have you ever
let's think, have you ever thought that spicy dell pickles
is for me?

Speaker 2 (12:26):

Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's a Kendrick reference. Yeah, I'm I've had spicy dill pickles.
There's one's called like Devil's spit that I get.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
That's a damn dog that sounds tough as hell.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah, that reminds me of the Shrek's piss. Drink I
made recently.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh, go on, tell is it just something you called
it that?

Speaker 4 (12:44):
Or there was a recipe on someone's Instagram page and
my friend sent it to me and I was like, Oh,
I'm trying to do promo for what at the time
was the upcoming Bechtel cast Shrek tannec tour. It has
since past, but I was like, oh, what if I
make a video of me mixing this wondrous cocktail that

is Shrek's piss and and it was disgusting.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Come on, that's a clever name. It's not just a
clever name the same.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Well, it's like madori, which is green, and then like
apple Pucker, which is green green ship it's like mostly
green liqueur, and then you add in some like lime
juice and some other kind of mixery type stuff. But
at the end of the day, it was way too
sweet and tasted pretty nasty.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Holy yea, I haven't thought about midori in fucking like decades.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Well, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, I did not need that, all right, Well.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Heylen, I just showed Shrek to my kids. The the
first Trek a huge hit, A huge hit, the first Shrek,
the second Shrek. Did I don't. We stopped watching after
the first one many minutes, but it seemed like a
giant drop off.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Because that's a period film, it starts out a little shitty.
I'm okay, but we just need you just need to
let Puss and Boots get on screen.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Oh yeah, you just need to let Shrek to breathe
like a fine bottle of Shreks.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I like the idea of you watching it with your
young kids, like dad, this is like boring. Hey, let's
Shrek cook Man. Let them. Let wait till Puss get
in the picture. Bro, it can be completely different. Let
him cook.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I didn't have any memory of it, so I didn't
know what what we were waiting for. But now I do,
and I have some enjoyable film viewing to look forward to. Nice.
But before we get to all the all those news stories, Caitlin,
we do like to ask our guests, what is something
from your search history that is revealing about who you are.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
It's another Shrek thing. I'm not even joking. Get string down.
It is Shrek rave l A. I googled it because
people keep talking about these Shrek raves. So a Shrek
rave is a thing. It's an event you buy a
ticket for it. You go dressed up as a Shrek

character and you just rave all night long.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yo, it's fucking tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
It's tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
What the fuck are you gonna go tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Friday, June seventh, Yes.

Speaker 1 (15:34):

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Would palladium. I Well, the thing is, I don't have
anything to wear, so I could maybe try to cobble
something together last minute, but right now I don't have
the appropriate.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Oh, like, you have to pull up in Shrek regalia.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Everyone else is, so I'm also want to be some outsider,
some loser who's not participating.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Don't do that.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
You gotta come correct with your Shrek outfit. So people
do like switch sticks. They're like, dude, win your tickets
to Shrek Rave.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah yeah, wow, now I know what me and my
kids are doing this weekend.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Take your kids do a rave, you do like a
full on even if it is Shrek, they're gonna end
up seeing Inevitably, there's always people at a rave that
did too much ecstasy and are sitting down crying somewhere.

Speaker 2 (16:27):

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, I've never been to a rave, how much less.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
There's always a Yeah, there's always a couple, like a
shirtless dude and a scantily clad, like girlfriend who's raved
out and then they're having a big fight. They're just
all these tropes you have at raves. I mean, yeah,
maybe it is good people watching for the kids.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Far to kids for the kids. You know, what is
something that you think is underrated?

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Dating without intention, which is something I've been doing quite
a lot, and it's just it takes a lot of
the pressure off of dating. Well, I'm not out here
trying to find anything. In particular, I'm not going in
with much in the way of expectations. And part of

that is because the bar for male behavior is low.
But you know, I go in with the expectation that
I'll be like treated well and stuff. But I it's
bleak out there. Let me tell you, ye, dating is
maybe bleaker than ever. But I'm just like, you know what,

I don't really has that helped.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I mean, like, are you saying so the intent being
I don't need to I don't have to go into
this saying like every day I go on is to
potentially find the person who I can have like a
meaningful long term relationship. You're sort of switching gears, so
like I'm meeting people I don't really expect shit, and
if I meet somebody that's cool, that's a bonus.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Exactly, yes, got it. So not that I'm like very
like oriented toward uh finding like a long term monogamous
relationship like that isn't super my thing anyway, but I'm like, oh,
maybe one day I'd like to have some kind of companionship.
But now you ever, like, well, mister Wright, I'm afraid

doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
So I'm just like, you're truly shrek brained. You're not
waiting for Prince Charming. You're waiting. It's treck.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
And that that is an expectation. But I don't know. Yeah,
I'm just sort of like I'm gonna just have a
night where I'm not sitting at home by myself and
I'm you know, meeting a new person and it'll probably
go anywhere from mediocre to badly, but it's a way

to pass the time. So that's how I work dating. Dating, Yeah,
pretty much?

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Right, right? Right? What's a non shitty date? Look likely
not to say stellar, but just not shit.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
I mean someone who can carry a conversation and who
I don't end up arguing with. Because the past few
dates I've been on, I have like gotten in a
fight with them, and like a date I went on recently,
he was like carrying on about how it's pointless to protest,

and he was specifically talking about like pro Palestine protests,
and I was like, what the fuck are you talking about,
And he was like annoyed at the like effects of protests,
and he's like, oh, people are trying to get places
and they're blocking stuff off. And I'm like, yeah, that's
the point is to disrupt like the status quo and

get people to notice and pay attention and do something
about it. He was just like, it's just annoying. And
I was like, okay, well I have to leave now.
I hate you and I never want to see you again.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Kiln is currently like seconds from punching this person in
the note just based on the.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, I love it. It got very heated, so yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Mean I get it. Yeah, it's fucking wild, like, especially
when you're looking for someone to potentially like relate to
that they're so far off with something where they're like
honestly like people being up in arms over a genocidal
campaign happening someplaces, not even here, Like it's annoying, and
if you're like Oh that's your fucking worldview, then we
have nowhere.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
To fuck truly. I was like, there's no world in
which we would ever have anything to talk about or
get along about anything.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
And so who do you have empathy for those people
who are trying to get places?

Speaker 1 (20:40):

Speaker 2 (20:41):
People sitting in traffic, like, traffic sucks?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
And while I get to like, yeah, you see things
where people like I'm legitimately having to go, I'm gonna
lose my Like, I get that there are all sorts
of extenuating circumstances that make that disruptive, but yet to
say things like and because it's annoying, don't fucking do it?

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, he's like, what about the people at Starbucks who
like have to get to work? I'm like, well, that's
a problem with capitalism, not a problem with the protesters.
Like do you not see any see the world?

Speaker 1 (21:11):
What do you like? What are these antifas?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
What is something you think is overrated?

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Sorry, sorry to start screaming on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
No, no, no, get it out. I like, like, I'm someone
as someone who's so ignorant of what the modern dating
world is like. And I mean I have single friends
who everyone says the same fucking thing. I'm like, what
I mean, backyard, I don't I don't know what the
difference is like. And that's like the hard thing to
wrap my head around is like, is it that it's
too many options? Because for me, I was like, I'm

in a sea of loneliness. I'm just looking for some
drift wood also out there, and we can hold on
to each other till the rescue boats come. And that's
how you made a relationship work.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Who many options of the problem. I think it's more
just the quality of the options that are available is
kind of at an all time you're too high valuable, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I get it.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
That's a yeah. I feel like I've seen an unofficial
trend online of people being like it's really hard for
guys on these dating apps. Like I just helped my
roommate with like his dating profile and he didn't get
any bites and he's good looking and like he's awesome,
so what's going on?

Speaker 4 (22:20):
And people have standards?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah. Someone had a theory though that because of like
the frequency of new dates, you can get to that
like the Again, this was someone's take on Twitter that
I'm not entirely sure is accurate. Or not, but that
it's different than like when before pre app dating, like
you'd meet someone and just you try to make it
work because you're like, I don't know, let's see, let

me try to make it work, and then from there
you either adapt to someone or don't and move on.
But now like it just feels like it's easier to
just be like, ah, I'm not feeling it, time to
move on. And I don't know that that feels like
a little bit fatalistic, but that.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Well, that's something I now do, like immediate in the
middle of the first date. I'm like, if I sense.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
That hud for something like that, that's disqualifying for sure.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah. Do you always tell them you're leaving or do
you ever just like pretend?

Speaker 4 (23:12):
One time I did consider, uh, just walking out the
side door and running away, but I didn't. I was like,
I just like sat back down. I was like, so
I'm gonna leave now. I don't think we're connecting at
all and I have to go. And he's like, oh,
all right, well no, we can't all be for everybody.
He took it surprisingly well, and I was like, so true,

so true.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Are you mad that I again?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Are you mad that I insisted on this date being
at Lappoo Belle. I thought it's cool that this is
where Danny Masterson always used to hang out. Yeah, there's
like a huge thing because the owner of Lapoo Bell
is also like a big Danny Masterson defender a lot.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
Yeah yeah, wait, that's that French restaurant near uc By
Frank Okay, never go there again. I've only been like
once or twice, so yeah, yeah, yeah, but never.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
A master saying you go into the poobe later. What
are we talking man?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
LPs dude? Later?

Speaker 2 (24:12):
What is something, Caitlin that you think is overrated?

Speaker 4 (24:17):
I thought Furiosa was overrated?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Wow, seen it, But I'm I hold your opinion in
high regard. So to hear this, I would like to
hear more.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Thank you. Well, to be fair, I do put Mad
Max's Fury Road on a pretty high pedestal.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
I've seen the tattoo.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
I have a tattoo about it. I've seen that movie
well over sixty times, so, you know, normals, normal behavior
on my part.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
But it came in with a pretty level head about
But I was.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Ready okay, So I went in being like, all right,
it's probably not going to live up to Fury Road,
not much can. In my eyes, I see it as
more or less a perfect film. But I was like,
I was still kind of expecting. I don't know, I
don't know what I was expecting. Actually, my expectations were
kind of low because when the first trailer dropped and

it looked weird and looked way too rendered and cgi,
I was like, oh no. But then I heard reviews
coming out that were like, no, he's done it again.
It's another masterpiece. Oh, it's great, great, And then a
lot of just like you know, fans, you know, regular people,
not professional movie critics or anything like that, where we're saying, oh,

it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I loved it so much, typical regular human being regular.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
The popcorn was good. Impression I realized.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Fell how but I stand by it. No, it was.
It was a shitty thing for me to say. Even so,
they're wrong, and I'm right.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
How many times have you seen it? By the way, I've.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Only seen it once, and I do want to watch
it again in theaters to just give the full like
to have a fair assessment as much as I can.
I thought that visually it was not as impressive. The
action set pieces were not as as fun and impressive
as Fury Road. And again I'm comparing this to Fury

Road as a standalone movie. It's yeah, so it was.
It just didn't quite live up visually because there's also
like more reliance on c g I than Fury Road
because so much of those effects were practical and I'm
a sucker for practical effects. Story Wise, it was like

it fell to bit jumbled. To me, I found myself
like not having a hard time following necessarily, but I
was just like, Okay, what are they doing and why
what is motivating this sequence? Or like why what are
we doing here? Because it just felt like there were
scenes that were meant to connect thing like yeah, plot

beats to others, and they felt like they were missing.
So I had just kind of a problem with narrative
cohesion and some story logic stuff. And then Furiosa isn't
in the Furiosa movie enough.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Right, right? It's not until like almost halfway in.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Wait, what I mean, She's Ania Taylor Joy shows up
later on because the first chunk of the movie is
her as like a younger child. Even so, like it's
a focus on I mean, I feel like the story
is like really milking the fact that Chris Hemsworth is
there and he's like chewing up the scenery a lot
of the time. And then there's just like other characters

and like scenes where Furiosa will be present, but she's
not like driving the action of the scene or she's
not like pushing the narrative forward. She's just kind of
like a bystander by standard.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Uh and.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Exactly so well again, Furious it was the one driving
most of the narrative in Fury Road, so I was
like expecting the same deal for Furiosa and it just
didn't quite happen. So, I mean, I walked away from
it feeling like emotionally affected. But then the more I
think about it, the more I'm like, I'm not sure

it's as great as everyone's saying it is.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Would you put it on par with like some of
the previous Mad Max films.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
I mean, I am not really a fan of any
of those one because so hard to stomach. Mel Gibson
and Number two, I don't know, they're just to me there,
it's a different camp because the budgets for those were
so much lower. The kind of again the effects and stuff,

I don't know. I just I'm not like a a
purist when it comes to Mad Max. I'm all about
that Fury Road life.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, exactly, they messed up. They should have called it
Fury roadsa so then people at least, you know what
I mean, just connected a little.

Speaker 2 (29:22):

Speaker 1 (29:22):
That's my that's my terrible idea for Jordan.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
That's why you should get notes from Miles Gray on
all your blockbusters.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
So I'm saying, man, charge nothing for this terrible opinion.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
It does feel like there's this theory on like aw tours,
like you can follow these their their careers and like
some of them are like trying all these different things out,
and then some of them are making the same movie
over and over again and just trying to get it right.
And I feel like you could say that George Miller
kind of kept making like I'm pretty sure one of

the Mad Max's was just a straight up remake of
a previous one with just a bigger budget.

Speaker 4 (30:02):
And maybe I I've only seen each of the original
trilogy ones, but the first one was literally like a
student film. There was like no budget for yeah whatsoever?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Was like shit, that was the one I like went back.
I was like, Wow, the people talk about these movies,
can't wait to see it, and it's like, this looks
like shit. Georgia Miller and I did reach out to
him and let him know thank you. But yeah, there
was the first one that like looked like a Mad
Max movie with like master Blaster and stuff. I thought

was pretty good. But it does feel like he was
working his way up to Fury Road and like did
it and he was like that, you know, I felt
like this is the thing that was in his mind
the whole time he executed it. And then studios were like,
we don't know what to do. There's no more superhero movies.

Can we pay you to make a prequel?

Speaker 1 (30:59):

Speaker 4 (30:59):
The other one really need because we have all the
information the furios of the movie gives us.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
So he's like I already like worked out the beats,
and while I was like kind of writing, yeah, but
we don't need to see it.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
We don't need to see it, We don't. I wish
what would have happened is what like and Or did
for the Star Wars universe, where like kind of it
takes a character that we like vaguely know about from
one of the like minor Star Wars movies and then
expands the world from there, but you know, and introduces

new lore and new concepts and ideas and blah blah blah. Yeah,
so I think they should have done the same thing
with like the Mad Max universe. Yeah, that's just my
humble expert opinion.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
And Miles is that it should have been called Fury Roads.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Fury Roads, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And more of the cocaine guitar guy.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yeah, you should go to a Shrek rave.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh my dude, see a Fury Road rave, get people.
People will absolutely fun. Dude. The second that guy comes
out on that fucking guitar, just befome shooting out. People
are just gonna be overdosing immediate.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
People are dying of chrome spray paint ingestion.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Everyone is just huffing metallic spray paint to be like, dude,
it's like the movie. You're like, you're killing your brain.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
You're actually dying right now due more tango, please.

Speaker 1 (32:36):

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Producer Justin points out that that might be Burning Man
what we're describing. Okay, and I'll go to Burning Man.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
But it's like expensive, and I don't want to be
in the back of a pickup truck with diplow and
Chris Rock who think the world is ending.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I want to be on a helicopter with Elon Musk.
That's the way to do burning Man. Let's take a
quick break and we'll come back and talk about just
how badly the Republican Party can fuck up Pride Month.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back, and
we're yeah, we're back. It is Pride Month, and there

has been a predictable onslaught of homophobic bullshit from conservative media,
conservative politicians.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, you've got the FRC, the Family Research Council, which
is the absolute homophobic freak show that's like there right now.
They're like celebrating sports teams that have not posted about
Pride while also claiming that like major sports have like
rejected the concept completely. And while that's not true completely,
there are definitely a few teams that are holding out

on acknowledging the month, which is disheartening. Like I think
there's only one team in baseball, the Texas Rangers, that
like have just not posted anything about it. There's I
think like ten teams in the NFL that haven't either.
And you know, while that's all happening, there's also this
candidate for Missouri Secretary of State, Valentina Gomez, and she
is using the time honored Republican candidate tactic of just

saying the most unhinged, violent rhetoric that you can to
get eyeballs on your campaign. I don't know if we
ever brought it up, because it was just in the
background of the ignorant shit that comes out of the right.
But you know, this is the woman who said everyone
in America. She kept saying everything's weak and gay in America,
and it was very, very poignant. One of her first

videos is her running with a kevlar fucking vest on,
like a bulletproof vest because she's so badass. I'll just
play this clip because this is again someone who's running
for secretary of state. But anyway, I'll let her, you know,
launch her campaign in America.

Speaker 6 (34:59):
It could be any you want, can.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
So hard.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
She said, you can be anything, so don't be weak
and gay, be fucking hard. And then it's like a
fucking just a collage of her holding guns and then
it's like, Valentino Gomez from Missouri Secretary of State.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Doesn't she realize that America would be such a better
place if everyone was weak.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
And gay gay Yeah, we probably wouldn't be in the
starting wars all the time. I'm like, not really for us,
you know, to be honest, but we are. We are
having a fantastic ball if someone wants to come through
and you know, see if they can actually really get
served in this arena.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
A gay Shrek ball.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
But yo, could you imagine that death drops for people
in a Shrek costume? Get get down, just and look.
She also proved how hetero and non groomer she is
because she also so used to fucking blow torts like
a flamethrower to set fire to books by LGBTQ plus authors.

All of this is a great distraction from the even
bigger thing here, which is she is totally unqualified for
the position she's even running for. But again, make a
bunch of noise and that'll be the focus. But it
turns out her employer, Nestley, isn't that into having someone
like her on their payroll.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Own, And I think, did she make too much noise? Dude?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
She's just spread too much truth, man, so much truth
that I mean in most instances when you're like, I'm
not working for the place anymore because my company said
they're unhappy with me. That's usually because the employer is
letting go of the employee. Oh not here, No, not here, motherfucker,
this trucking patrion. She ain't fucking going down without a fight.

Here's her basically outside of her This like after she
got fired, she fucking recorded a video outside of her office,
or like Valentina's recording a fucking video outside near the lobby.
This is announcing that she was not fired. Okay, go look,
go broke.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
This company tried to keep me choirs for speaking up
against the pornographic material in our children's libraries.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Like today, I fire them.

Speaker 6 (37:12):
No amount of money, stock, or bullying would make me
compromise my values. So I will never support a company
that wants to empower and protect pedophiles and rumors in
our schools and libraries. So figuo dug something that is
now weak and gay? This is good versus evil.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Don't we don't be weakend gay week in gay dot com.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
This is for someone running for secretary of state and
their whole platform is just to be like Purina dog
food is weak in k Yeah, and that's just the
level of fucking just backwards discourse. So yeah, she fired
them she was not fired because that's just just very
healthy outlook that she has. But also other shit happening

in Utah. The governor in Utah is using Pride month
as a way to cool build bridges between the sides.
And they're like, what size the lgbt Q plus community
and bigots?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I think, Oh, it's we gotta hear out both sides.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Absolutely. He says June should be a time to exchange
ideas and see how everyone experiences Pride. Quote he said
in this declaration that quote, those who do not identify with, celebrate,
or support Pride celebrations nevertheless share the experience of being marginalized.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Thank you at the Thanksgiving dinner table.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
In you, we love our children, and we hope to
live in such a way that our children will forever
love us. And even if at times you may disagree
over deeply held personal so fucking wild, Like, what a
load of fucking horse. These people are not persecuted by
our children, Yeah for not loving us enough, because we're

so we're so bigoted and hateful that we refuse to
let people be like Again, you people who do not
support like, who are so this homophobic, are not marginalized. Okay,
but again here they are using die and breed.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Man, We're an endangered species, all.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Right, we need protection. Going the way of Shrek man.
Hate to say we're going the way of Shrek man.
Our swamp is in danger.

Speaker 5 (39:24):

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I just want to live on my bug by myself
and to have my kids forced to come live with
me and honor everything that I believe.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeahs as, I have an absolute crisis talking to a
donkey and a cat wearing boots that I call my friends,
you know, they say.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Okay, why don't we be smirching Shrek?

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
This is not fair.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
This is someone, This is someone who thinks they got
it like Shrek and they don't. You don't have it
like Shrek or Shrek is Shrek a ally?

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Actually? No? Okay, okay, good thing with Shrek one And
you might have noticed this Jack upon watching it recently,
but he's like pissed off that all of these So
basically what's happening to Shrek one is that Lord Farquaad
is ethnically cleansing his kingdom and he's displacing all of

these fairy tale creatures who in the context of this
kingdom are marginalized, and he dumps them in Shrek's swamp
and Shrek is fury that they're there, and he's like,
get them out of here, this is my land, Like
what this? Yeah, so he is not an ally to
his fellow fairy tale creature.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
He's like a weird mercenary.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
First he's but he's not a boot liquor either. It's
not he's like, yo, man, like, I get what pro.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Monarchy until he fucking marries a princess and then in
Shrek two he like goes to the kingdom to meet
the parents, and then in Shrek three he becomes a
stand in for king the King. So actually he loves
the monarchy.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
At this piece. So does acab include Shrek?

Speaker 2 (41:05):

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I would say, so do.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
We need to start Do we need to start announcing
that at the top of the mountain, just so you know,
a cab also includes Shrek? Yes, just so fucking.

Speaker 4 (41:13):
Know Trek is the villain of Shrek.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Shrek. Wow. Yeah, I again, just back on this Utah thing.
It's just so wild when they're like, let's use this
moment to center ourselves and and and it'll be a
testament to our myopic self victimization. It'll be fantastic. It's
going to be fantastic. The dominant culture has to make
space for marginalized people, and now we are the oppressed.

Humiliating anyway, aboud treck fact that they just start talking
about we love in Utah, we love our children, and
we hope to live in such a way that.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Our children will forever love us, even if at times
we may disagree. Like they just immediately like go into
this weird like subtweeting of their kids in legislation for
like not agreeing with their fucked up, like hateful viewpoint.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
It's yeah, dying alone, bigot boomer apologia they're doing, you
know what I mean. It's just like so because that
I mean, that is a thing you see like a lot,
Like I've seen a lot of people talk about how
like there are so many.

Speaker 7 (42:17):
People like I just I don't I don't even talk
to my kids, I don't even see my grandkids anymore
because I'm so backwards. But they're still using that, like
and I feel like I've got a scarlet letter on
or something exactly just because I didn't I know.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
What it was like to be a black panther.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Wait what, I'm sorry, I don't think you do.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
That's why I also celebrate. I understand February. It's also
a month for me. Yeah, that's amazing history. All right, Uh,
let's take a quick break. I can't fucking believe that story.
That's truly rarely am I speechless, but fucking.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Utah, you've done it again. It does again, famous line
from point break. Let's take a quick break. We'll be
right back, and we're back, and time to discuss one

of my favorite ridge farms, pet Ridge Farm, makers of Goldfish,
who recently unveiled a new flavor, spicy Dill Pickle, which
isn't the first time that they've released a different flavor,
but it does seem they got Old Bay. They got
Old Bay, they got flavor blasted goldfish. Flavor blasted goldfish

are fucking incredible. I got that.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
It's too much. It's a hat on top of a
hat for me.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
No, so are the ones that are like that have
like a powder on them right now?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah? They have, like dorino dust.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
I don't want that.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
The originals to begin with, they weren't a finger altering substance.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, yeah, No, the originals are probably the best. But
of the additional varieties, I do think flavor blasted original,
you know, like you blasted with the original flavor. You
doubled down on what was working in the first place.
That is what I'm talking about. None of this fucking
parmesan stuff.

Speaker 4 (44:19):
Yes, that's gross.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I better stop here before I start saying stuff about
Italian people that I'm gonna regret.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
But Jesus, let's.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Just say I did say parmesan in a weird way
there that sounded more hateful than it O. Wow, Okay,
parmijeon sit on the ground.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I only like the craft ship and the green can.
The fake stuff.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Yeah, give me that American cheese.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
You don't actually put American cheese on my pasta. When
I'm at an Italian restaurant.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Individuals like cheese, not that ship, though I have my
own what do you call them bread? Will you please
take this plastic sleeve? I don't eat it any singles.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
That grow.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
That's how we had lasagna. I remember at my school
cafeteria it was all American cheese.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yuh grows. American cheese is objectively the worst of all
the cheeses.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
That were alive. Is incredible, like what we ate growing up.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Do you know how expensive American cheeses though, It's like
the price does not make.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Four nine for like a thirty pack, but each pack
is individually each piece is individually wrapped, so it doesn't
it doesn't go bad.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Like there was like yeah, like one of those little
half sacks was like on par with buying like legit
just cheddar cheese, and I was like, what what the
fuck are they trying to do? Like why are you
charging this much for just water and oil? Yeah, in
the shape of a cheese.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Whatever oil is, it has to be made in a machine,
it has to be drilled out of the earth miles.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
It's made with crude petroleum. That American cheese like doesn't
make sense from a physics perspective. American cheese is made
with jet fuel crude oil bullets.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
But anyways, goldfish taking a big swing with a spicy
dill pickle. There is a like market research firm somewhere
that has been like guys Pickles the wave of the future,
because like that, the city of la is covered in
billboards for like pickle companies and like pickles that are

coming out and now Goldfish is like getting in on
the pickle craze. That was congratulations to them.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah. About eight years ago, there were like people around
here like dude, I'm starting to make pickles. And I'm like, okay, sure, man,
Like thanks whatever.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
I make pickles. Whenever I bought by a jar of pickles,
I eat the pickles. There's a lot of pickle juice
left over. And then I buy a cucumber and I
wow it up and put it in the pickle juice.
Let it sit, let it, you know, fester for a
bit and pickles.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Yeah, and they're all a cookbook. They get that nice
nice just you can you really do that?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Tho, I legitimately do that.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
That is the most sustainable ship I've ever heard of,
because it.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Feels wasteful to dump out all that pickle juice.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
That's a lot of pickle juice or use it as
brining liquid. Yeah, exactly like chicken thighs and like really
grind that ship and pickle juice, because you know, that's
what they say about Like the rumor was like a
Chick fil A or whatever that your pickle brine or whatever.
But I think in general, like it's a good salted

brinding liquid. It was that. Or I would just buy
a bottle of whiskey and just do a bunch of picklebacks.
That too.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Oh okay, wait, wait you say it.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
You're in recovery and you never were drinking picklebacks. No,
drinking tequila with Tabasco sauce. That was my Like, oh
I don't like this, but I can't stop drinking Casco
Tabila Casco. Wow.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
No, you take a shot of whiskey and then you
chase it.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
WITHI with pickle juice.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Goddamn it.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
I was drinking. I was hooked because the way it
neutralized that alcohol flavor in your mouth and gave you
a little bit of that like briany like ah. I
thought it was a health food for a while.

Speaker 2 (48:39):

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I was like, it's vegetable water. Yeah, this is basically
what they used to drink, and lethal amounts of salt.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I'm drinking.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
But okay, I you know vinegar, which I'm sure is
the main ingredient in pickle juice. It's it helps with
your digestion. It's good for you.

Speaker 1 (48:57):

Speaker 2 (48:58):
So there, So there. I just dumped my leftover pickle
juice and my gas tank and Jesus does not go, well, yeah,
that's all right, So you know, some theories have it.
The Pepperidge Farm is looking to distract from the fact
that they recently got sued for allegedly misleading customers with

claims that goldfish crackers contain no artificial flavors or preservatives.
It's wild because that phrase artificial flavors was invented to
be so broad as to resist like definition at all. Right,
Like they were like, yeah, we're gonna the food industry

is going to create this as a thing. Nobody knows
what an artificial flavor is, but we can pretend like
the food is somehow more pure than other foods by
just claiming this. And they even got caught using that. Why,
I mean, this could by no definition. Are these not

artificial flavors?

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I am so fucking stupid that you saying that just
fucked up my entire worldview. Yeah, it's crazy out here,
be like, oh, no artificial flavors. Yeah, except for industry
is straight up some fucking wacky combo that doesn't exist
in nature and would have to certainly be artificial.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I'm like, but they said no artificial flavors, But they said.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Yeah, wow, Wow, wow wow.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Which brings us to our random aside. Apparently the origin
of goldfish crackers. They were originally created by a with
a machine built by a World War two Nazi codebreaker
who was instrumental and convincing Hitler that the Allies were

set to land in Kalay not Normandy. Wow, we have goldfit.
And that so retired from being a Nazi after World
War Two, and like somebody was traveling around and was like,
this guy makes cool fish shape him cranked crackers, and

they like sold it to Pepperidge Farm and that's how
we have the goldfish cracker today. But that person basically
was so bad at their job as a code breaker
that they allowed the Allies to win the war.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Wait he no, no, no, he's a Nazi coach. He was
breaking Nazi code. He was breaking well, that was my question.
Was he a Nazi? No no, no, no, he was breaking Nazi.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
A code breaker? Who was He's good.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Guy, He's jack. If I can't I can't in one go,
I can't learn that artificial flavors is bullshit and I'm
eating Nazi goldfish crackers. Man, Like that would have been
such a blow to my entire identity.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Oh wow, okay, yeah, okay, so he on purpose wrong
like convinced the wrong thing, so he was like fucking undercover.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Good for him. Yeah, I'm back on board. Oh I
gotta go fish so many bags of goldfish crackers out
of my garbage.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Not even this fucking third Reich bullshit.

Speaker 4 (52:24):

Speaker 2 (52:25):
So anyways, though it ties into D Day, Yeah, you know,
shout out to that.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I also just think it's.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Funny that like that was like an invention goldfish shaped crackers.
They were like, you hear about this guy over in Germany.
Crackers are shaped like little fucking goldfish and like they
had to hire him to like it feels like it
should be easy, but well.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
It makes you wonder about like who invented the dinosaur
shaped chicken nuggets?

Speaker 2 (52:53):

Speaker 1 (52:55):
And I want there, I don't.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
It'll break you.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
It was Oppenheimer. I'm like, no, goddamn it, I mean
these I just want to resist saying that this is
the bomb, but it's damn Close's damn close. Yeah, who
invented dino nuggets? Because those aren't. That's also I feel
like we do need to know the history of the

dino nugget.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
There, I haven't had them, you know, since I was
a kid. But they're delicious.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, probably, and probably terrible for you. But then that's fine,
and that's fine, and that's fine.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
Piss. So who am I?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I'm watching it down with the fortieth Shrek piss. Okay,
that's the weeks of my words? Oh shit, amazing.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Should we do one more? We got we got a
couple of kind of meatia ones.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
All right?

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Uh? Did you guys read the three M story?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
The I remember it was getting teased out last week
or the week. Yeah, got forever chemicals problem.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
It's bad, man, it is so I So I finally
read the three M story. We'll link off to it
in the footnotes. It's a collabo between Pro Publica and
The New Yorker. I've always resented three AM a little
bit for being the company that actually invented post it
notes and not Romeo Michelle, you know, yeh, But the

business press like also trained me to like the business
press like has a crush on three M. They've always
been like, like they love to tell the story of
like how they came up with the post it note,
Like they like came up with this glue that was
too weak. To be effective for anything. But then they
put it on the post it and realized it could be.
Like they there's so many like Gladwell light writers who

like love to tell the story of how Threem is
this little place for like ingenius little tinkerers, and you know,
so they started with I think their first invention was
like masking tape, but then they like, now they make
a bunch of the different kinds of bandages and sponges
and all sorts of shit. Scotch Guard the thing that

like makes various papers and packages waterproof. And that's the
one that got us in trouble because so one of
their scientists in the late nineties was given a weird assignment,
very foreboding, where they're like, hey, weird, they take this
broad cross section of Red Cross blood donations and start

looking for our chemicals in these blood donations. And she
was like okay, and she found these pfos, the things
that are in Scotch Guard, in every single sample, every
single god. And so they were like, well, this must
be a mistake kept because they were like, okay, well

here take this blood sample. She was like, yeah, it's
in there too, and they were like, well, that's my
pet horse, so you must be lying. And then they realized,
oh no, it's like getting into your pet horses bloodstream
through like fish meal, because like it's so pervasive in
all water, like it's in all the fish, it's in everywhere,

it's fucking everywhere. They realized like that all their readings
were accurate when they finally like found a blood sample
of like people who died before the invention of these
chemicals these pfos and found and find that was the
first sample that they tested, was that didn't have these
pfos in it. And it's like gotten more and more

over time because it accumulates, like our body has no
way to get rid of it, and it just gets
more and more.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
So like at first they were.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Like, well, this is no problem though, because even though
the chemicals are in our bloodstream, like they're not that harmful,
but they accumulate and get more and more, so we
actually don't know what's going to happen. And now some
people are speculating that it has it's like the cause
of some types of cancer, and it's the cause of

lowering like sperm count and lowering reproductive rates around the
globe and it's just a again, we'll like off to it.
It's a must read, but it's really you know, we
present a lot of reasons on this show that unregulated
hypercapitalism doesn't seem to work as the organizing principle for

all of human civilization, all of humanity. But this is
like maybe the biggest and scariest that I've ever encountered. Like,
we have these companies steering the ship who have nothing
but short term profit in mind, and they will poison
us all to death if the poison is slow enough
that they can get enough of our money before we die.

Like that's essentially Like So she discovered this in like
the nineties and immediately started getting like frozen out by
her like co workers. She was asked to present the
findings to the CEO of the company. The CEO, like
all all of the head lead executives, like higher up executives,
started attacking her and being like who told you to

do this? And like wh what is your motivation for?
Like doing this research that like tears down the amazing
inventions that people at this company have done. And while
they were doing that, the CEO fell asleep and started
drooling on his dress shirt. Like in that meeting, and
then she got like reassigned away from that and then
like this article, as this article uncovers, like they had

known about it for like twenty years before, and like
there there were various executives who were like, this is
really bad, but they basically like laundered the findings through
her because they knew it was going to be bad
for whoever's career, like was associated with it. Jesus, it's
this fucking bonkers thing. But it doesn't like it just

feels like how every single corporation that you read about
like operates they you know, it's just they are hostile
to whatever is going to prove counter profitable. You know,
if it's going to slow down profits, it's going to
be wildly unpopular.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Okay, first of all, sounds like we need a sequel
to Aaron Brockovic.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yes, yeah, I mean I think Dark Water is somehow
related to these chemirats Dark.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Darkwater is the all male reboot of Aaron Brockovic. A Brockovich.
I don't know if anyone saw that movie, but I
did in theaters brag. And I forget what company. It's
not three a M. It was a different company that
Mark Ruffalo's character was like learning that like all this
like Tefton or something is in drinking water yeah, DuPont yes, yeah,

and a bunch of people were being poisoned by their
drinking water in a certain region, And so I guess
we just need another movie to complete the stream.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Yeah, that's what it takes. Like did you see the
movie about three It's like that pro public article came
out seventeen years ago, right, You're like, oh no, yeah,
but the movie's great. Anya Taylor Joy is fantastic as
the human manifestation of one of those p Foss chemicals
Powerhouse Performance, Powerhouse Performance.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
It is wild, like how like there's a part of
me like I had been incepted with goodwill towards this
company by like articles that were just yeah, we're just
like and this we think your stuff ingenuity works, and
like yeah, we're just like kind of the people behind
the people. And like once you read about them, you

start looking around and you see like, oh three M
is like their labels on everything. And for me that
was like a fun discovery back back in you know,
ten years ago. It's like, oh, this here's a company
out of like the humble you know, State of Minnesota
who's secretly like doing all this good work, and now
it's like fucking terrify. It's like the end of usual Suspects,

where it's like three m is everywhere and they don't
give a fuck about your health at all. And even
like some of the stuff, like now that they've been sued,
they have like a ten billion dollar settlement that people
are saying is just the tip of the iceberg. But
they are like even the they've like made a big

show about like, you know, we're evolving with the new
scientific findings that was before this report came out, proving
that they like had had the findings before any of us,
and like now even now like they're wording around, like
what they're actually agreeing to do is still like very
hedgy and like it we're gonna we are going to

get rid of these things as long as we can
find a profitable replacement too, you know, Like they're also right, yeah,
yeah that literally one of the things that they started
replacing the p foughts with was like pfas and like
or pfbs and that scientist who is now you know,
a whistleblower and like the main source for this report

was like, and I knew at that time, like those
are also going to be bad and accumulating in people's
blood through So it's just a crazy story. But shout
out to Pro Publica. They do really great work.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah, damn, it was wild too, because I remember they
like a few years ago, like right before the pandemic,
they were trying to get legislation through that three M
was fighting hard about designating these chemicals as like fucked up,
and they were successful at defeating that legislation. And now
we're like, yeah, because it's so fucking bad. Cool cool

all right?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Yeah, I mean yeah, so need a new system.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Anyway, That's what I'm saying. Just take eat a handful
of goldfish, wash it down with some Shrek piss.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
I might just have to get out there and like
help people with the misinformation. Like this is the only
way we're going to get folks.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Yeah. But yeah, drink your Shrek piss, eat your goldfish.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Take down three Am, Caitlin. What a pleasure having you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
As always on the show, the pleasure is online.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Where can people find you? And that's not true, by
the way. The pleasure is also our stop being greedy
about the pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Stop being greedy about the pleasure.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Lady Wow, I was talking about earlier with dating.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
That guy was me by the way, you have to
just walk out of it. I'm just saying it's hard
for me to get to places where can people find you,
follow you all that good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
I'm mostly on Instagram these days at Kaitlyn Deronte. You
can also check out my website Kaitlyn Durante dot com.
I post my upcoming screenwriting classes I teach. The summer
sessions are all filled up, but I'm going to be
teaching stuff in the fall. Both my intro class and

I now teach like workshopping classes. So if you have
a project you're already working on and you want to
bring it to a group where you'll have like accountability
and deadlines and lots of constructive feedback from your peers
and from me, I teach classes of that nature. And

so you can go to what did I did? I
already say it? I'll say it again Caitlindoronte dot com
and find information about that amazing and oh and listen
to the Bechdel Cast.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
And does the damn Bechdel Cast what does the Bechdel
cast do? If you had to just like kind of
put it in a single sent.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
I would say it maybe like takes down the patriarchy
one movie at a time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Okay, hey, that's pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
All right, yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Can I use that? You can use it to back
just anything. I like this restaurant here. It takes down
the patriarchy one film.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
At a time.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Long is he talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I don't know. I don't have much to say.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
American cheese and.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
In various forms.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
Oh, I would recommend everyone check out the show We
Are Lady Parts. Season two recently dropped. It's on Peacock.
Ever heard of it? So yeah, catch up on season
one and then watch season two. It's a great show.
It's so funny and it's so charming.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
We did a stream and corner with super producer on
hose Enate for season one, and we will be doing
a streaming corner for season two of We Are Lady Parts.
So n everybody that that is not just a piece
of media that is being enjoyed by Caitlin, it's also
an assignment if you want, if you want to know
what the fuck we're talking about on that episode Amazing Miles.

Where can people find you as their work media you've
been enjoyed?

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Yeah, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at
Miles Gray. You can find us on the basketball podcast
Jack and Miles, Miles and Jack Got Mad BOOSTI is
however you want to however you want to order that?
And also on four twentyance talking ninety Day Fiance and
the latest episode of My Mama Told Me. That's the
Langston Kerman and David Moory podcast. Let's see. I don't

know if I had let me, let me just look
at Did I like anything? I don't know if I
liked anything?

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Do I have any works of media.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
That I liked?

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Actually, yes, yes, yes, yes yes uh. This is actually
from your co host, Jamie Loftis at Jamie Loftis help
tweeted this like last week. I remember when Babu Frick
came out this. She was always talking about how down
she is with bab people. Babu freak out here this tweet.
I love it's it's a picture of Babu Frick and

Jamie tweeted. Five years later, I remained Babu Frick's only fan,
and no one but me has the Babu Frick toy
and the Babu Frick crop top I have. I haven't
seen over half of the Star Wars movies. I just
like that he looks like an old baby. Shout out
to the one other Babu Frick fan who finds this
bab free Baboo Babu Frick.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
uh tweet I've been enjoying MS Grace cooling ship. Schmidt tweeted,
I built a squatty potty out of Mahogany, with a
picture of the squatty potty built out of mahogany and
left at London tweeted eminem lyrics since two thousand and nine,
build a squatty potty out of mahan.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Wow, hey, I get it, Build a squaddy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Shit way too many napkins and then please be nice.
Gn e I s S tweeted in response to the
recent ch Podle story, me more teeth dentist, what me
recording video? No skipping now.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
You can find all right for us on Twitter at
daily zekeus. We're at d dailyes I Gus on Instagram.
We have a Facebook vampage website dailyzeikes dot com where
we post our episode and our footnotes foote and look
off to the information that we talked about today is
episode well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
what song do you think people might enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
I just like that this like soft R and B
that feels like from It's like from the nineties is
kind of making a big comeback. This is galdive and
or Galdeve. I don't know, it's like how you pronounced
or end dive malde yeah or Galdeve's but anyway, g
A L D I v E. The track is called
Bloom and it's just like some nice like whispery R

and B kind of shit, just you know, setting yourself
up for the weekend, getting in that vibe, you know,
letting the sun hit you. So bloom gal dive get into.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
It all right. We will link off to that in
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